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Daily reminder of the true Nyaa replacements https://nyaa.si

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Daily reminder of the true Nyaa replacements
https://nyaa.si/
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/
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Previous thread
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>>157100616
They are already down, what great sites!
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>>157100811
Anything else wouldn't do the situation justice.
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>>157100811
They are doing a maintenance to add features and waifus
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>>157100616
Its kill
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>spend 5 hours claiming your site to be more stable than a competing site
>get directed to the stat showing 6 million Japanese IPs
>start shilling for your site on 2ch
>site immediately crashes
You sure showed pantsudev.
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DO NOT CLICK THAT SHIT.

We already discussed how those sites are potential spyware in another thread. Why don't we like pantsu again?
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>>157101894
Oh its the nigger shill again, I answered my own question. Fuck your site.
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>>157101894
Every thread. The "tracker" is email. 10 seconds on Google.
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>>157101867
I guess the cartel never bothered to prepare their servers for the upcoming strain of 6 million nips visiting their site at once.
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>>157102004
Why the fuck are there so many of them?
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>>157101867
Its a feature
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>>157102013
Post-war economic miracle.
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>>157102013
Because watching anime at 2AM fucks up your daily routine.
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>>157101894
>We already discussed how those sites are potential spyware

Post proofs or fucking kill yourself
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>>157102013
You dun goof'd by dropping nukes, now there are a ton of them.
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>>157100616
OK this is important but has it been discuss if the cartel are going to allow FAKKU rips?
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>>157102069
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/?q=fakku&f=0&c=0_0
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>>157102004
>population of Japan - 127 million
>6/127 = 4.7%

Hmm, impressive, I guess, if you narrow down the 127 million to the usual anime audience of middle aged adult men.
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>>157100616
And people say the cartel is just a meme
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Thankfully https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/ is still up.
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>>157102094
>linking to a dead site
Very funny.
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>still following cartel trackers
>2017
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Naisu desu ne
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>>157102114
What?
Its working just fine
I guess their orange pi zero server got raped a little too and they refuse some connections
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>>157102142
At least it doesn't have CloudBleed.
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>>157102094
I wish I can see this now instead of error 522
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>>157100616
piss off fag
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I'll keep uploading my music to jpopsuki, anidex and pantsu.
Fuck the cartel and their shilling
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>>157100811
This can only be the work of the PantsuDev shills.
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>>157100616
is that pic an edit or do i need to watch it for mtg

>tfw no more wizards soul translation : <
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>>157102013
They're Japanese. They need their JAV fix.
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>>157102232
>do i need to watch it
Yes
>>157102232
>for mtg
no
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>>157101867
It's not like Pantsu hardly ever crashes from overload
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>>157102245
Nice /v/ meme reaction image.
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>http://www.strawpoll.me/12947028/r

Just one? Wonder who could that person be.
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>2017
>still using public trackers
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>>157102294
Oh, i guess i'll use it when it gets an anime. Oh wait.
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Our savior nyaa.si is back up.
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>>157102336
I'm talking about the 200%.
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>>157102337
Fuck off herkz. It's obvious.
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The only way I would use nyaa.si is if they change the blue-status system.
The users should vote for the best releases not a bunch of cartel mods.
There were a bunch of good encoders and subbers on the old nyaa that weren't even trusted.
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>>157102373
>The users should vote for the best releases
But almost nobody downloads 3 different releases and compares them. The users would only vote for their favorites. The most popular fansubber team is commie. The most downloaded release however is HS. Guess who's going to get the votes?
Your proposed system cannot work.
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>falling for cartel tricks when you could finally be free
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>>157102373
nyaa.si devs didn't carry over the blue A+ status from nyaa.se. I say good riddance.
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>>157102385
Because what they're actually doing is shilling .is on 2ch and they can't handle the Japanese hug of death.
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>>157102373
Also only BD releases should get blue
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>>157102418
Trusted BD releases getting blue would actually be somewhat useful. That, or batches.
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>>157102393
Then do what fansub.co does. Put up screenshots of notable differences and then let people vote.
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>>157102395
Free from what?
The people that release the stuff you are supposed to upload there?
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What about the raws being posted to pantsu, is nyaa.si going to scrape those?
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Non-retarded person here, nyaa dying has affected me 0% as I just download everything Horriblesubs shits out via IRC and the only thing to watch outside of that is LWA, which is done by Asenshi, who have a fucking homepage

I really don't get this fuss

Plus TokyoTosho is still alive so it's not like anyone needed to make a 2nd or 3rd nyaa
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>horriblesubs started uploading to nyaa.si
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>>157102506
Seeing your post, I'd have to say you're pretty retarded.
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>>157102554
>using nyaa for old anime
>not having a backlog
He doesn't sound retarded to me.
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>>157102565
>not being part of a secret club
Yep, retarded
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>>157102506
>the only things NT had were HorribleSubs releases
Nope, you're retarded.
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>>157102592
Fair enough.
After bbt went private, there weren't a whole lot of public, easy to find sources for old shit. Not acting fast under those circumstances can be considered careless or retarded.
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>>157100616
Thanks
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>>157102633
MADMAN
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>>157100616
Fucking carterl fuck off. Pantsu is open source and run by people who respect the user's freedom and actually care about anime.
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>>157102508
they made the right choice
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>>157100616
Fuck off
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>>157100616
>slovenia
Interesting choice
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https://nyaa.si/view/923038

キタ━━━(゚∀゚)━━━!!
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So this are the so called cartel shills.
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>>157102843
>its free for all to shit on cartel
>but its shilling to defend / like them

nah fuck off
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When will I be able to click the category icon to only show that category.
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>>157102918
Suggest it on IRC or the /g/ thread.
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>>157102927
It works on the other nyaa's, just not the .si one.
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>>157102918
>>157102927
Devs know. They'll add that soon, probably.
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>>157102365
Fuck you, MGR is the shit and also anime
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>>157102956
What other nyaas are there? I know of pants and rip. Rip is stable but the db is 2 years old.
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>>157102956
Who cares about what features don't work on .si? Why would anyone use that piece of shit?
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>>157103201
nyaa.pantsu.cat
nyoo.moe
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>>157102956
>using cartel nyaa
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>>157103358
I haven't really been using any of them. I've just been using horriblesubs site. If any I'd probably use pantsu.
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When will I be able to get anything other than a 522 error?
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>>157103418
Just use pantsu desu. Cartel are attempting to DDoS by pantsu has proper datacentre host.
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just use tt who has been stable and around for literaly centuries
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>>157103420
The cartel is a barely old meme. A couple of groups are offshoots of other established groups and share staff. Original nyaa was associated with a few of these staff members.

In short, fansubbing is incestuous.
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>nips find out about nyaa.si
>site goes down
>a few hours later it comes back up
>nips rejoicing
>dies again
Noticing a pattern here.
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>>157103600
nyaa.si is ran on a toaster.
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>>157103600
>hosting a domain in fucking SLOVENIA

Yeah, about that..
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>>157103831
Whats the significance of it? Its in EU like old nyaa was, so I dont see how its going to not get sued.
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>>157103881
>how its going to not get sued
Nobody got sued.
Nyaa owner was only paranoid.
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>>157104059
>>157104059
the thing is, they host on ovh, somebody posted the IP of both sites earlier.
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>>157100616
If you cartel mafia faggots make Kanna be the new mascot I might consider using you instead.
Kanna > Renge those hips win sorry
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>>157100616
>Site forces cloudflare catchas on me
Why would I want to use it over pantsu?
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I would miss these threads once they are gone if not for the constant spoonfeeding and newfags pretending to fit in like that "offboarder" poster.
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>>157104428
but the original used cloudflare
pantsu too
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>>157103881
Old nyaa owner was a retard, he got spooked after reading an article. Good riddance.
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Pantsu master race.
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>>157100616
It's amazing the difference between the two IRCs. si has a shitload of cancer and roleplay garbage.
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>>157104838
Just Like HS disqus garbage.
Coincidence? I think not.
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Is it true that the site can log what sites you recently visited?
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>>157104838
Post pics.
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>>157104993
Ok, although this is lesser cancer than before. Just jump in the IRC for a laugh.
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>>157100616
>half on /a/ supports cartel
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

>inb4 our redditors and tumblrinas got so buttmad at the jew joke
Grow up
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>>157105023
That's a ping, anon. IRC is from a different era.
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>>157105036
Shills probably
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Remember the swf of that blinking Miku that NyaaTorrents used to have in the top right corner? Whatever happened to that?
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Brand loyalty regarding public trackers is probably the most stupid things I've heard this year. And I'm pointing at both sides.
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>>157104988
It also steals your credit card info and downloads dolphin porn in the background.
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>>157105132
Is there a way to access the dolphin porn?
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>>157105169
nyaa.si's sukebei is up, so you could actually search for it.
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>>157105182
I don't want to download it twice if I don't have to. If nyaa.si is already placing a copy on my HD, why can't I just watch that?
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>>157105132
>dolphin porn
The cartel knows the whereabouts of Snacks?
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Pantsu is scraping everything, including .si, so it doesn't matter. Fuck cartel.
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>>157105260
What if .si scrape pantsu back?
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>>157100616
Isn't nyaa pantsu better? This one looks outdated.
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>>157100616
Watch out accessing it installs bitcoin miner
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>>157105285
Then the original purpose of redundancy is achieved. You still have a choice to not add to cartel's revenue though.
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>>157102241
well nvm then

>muh wizards soul ;-;
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shame it sucks, and I refuse to use nyaa.pantsu because I can't stand fucking NNB faggots
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>>157100616
I'll just use Tokyo Toshokan for the time being and let nyaa successors battle it out.
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https://hitomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1494586726/
.si is now officially Nippon approved
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>>157105469
Just change to night mode.
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>>157105484
>パンツの鯖
>まーーーーーーーじでゴミ
RIP in peace pantsu
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>>157102294
how would you know it's a /v/ reaction image if you weren't from /v/?
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>>157105483
It's not really a battle. If .si succedes, Pantsu can just scrape their stuff and continue OK.
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>>157105260

That's nice, except that pantsu is always fucking down.
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>>157104131
>OVH
Will they ever learn? This is how what.CD died
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>>157105345
So much this, using cartel will eventually lead to a new Nyaa scenario
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>パンツがんばれ

You still have fans, pantsufags.
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>>157105484
in case someone starts shit again they're just thinking it's the original
>mfw someone keeps posting that .si just wants ad revenue
>>157105597
both pantsu and si are new and go down a lot, this would be a legit complaint once things have settled down
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>>157102894
>Liking attention whores who single handedly put us is the current situation

Ok herkz. Hows that sex change going
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>>157105753
>can't read runes

They keep saying "It's just a mirror", and people correcting them saying, "It's not." Followed by rejoicing for ten or so posts.

They just want their porn. They don't give a fuck where it comes from.
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Hey faggots, why not just use both?
The more sites there are the better.
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>MOTD: New Nyaa is ONLINE! Spread the word! Originally we were planning on using NyaaPantsu but we heard some troubling things about them and decided it's best to stick with people we know and trust. They will probably have our releases indexed there anyway but keep in mind that it is not us that is posting on there and all our torrents will be officially uploaded on http://nyaa.si.

RIP pantsu
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>>157105831
The nips like .si better too.
How will pantsu ever recover?
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>>157105794
What? You don't know that when you start to use a public tracker you basically make a pledge of allegiance to it and promise to give your fisrstbron to the admin?
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>well that site has been going up and down like a yoyo
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>>157105831
Isn't it just a pantsu fork, tho?
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>>157105857
both are lad
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>Japs and normalfags flock to Nyaazi
>Pantsu becomes much more stable
Win-win situation.
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>>157105898
Not even the same language.
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Reminder that Madokami is part of the cartel too.
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>>157105956
Surely you mean THE CARTEL™.
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>>157105793
>They just want their porn. They don't give a fuck where it comes from
not this guy apparently
I mean, I know most people here won't give a shit either in the end, just saying
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>successfully made nyaa.pantsu.cat irrelevant
Add this to the list.
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just get an animebytes account.............
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>>157105980
>freedom
>doesn't know about through dick, unity
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>>157106016
That's funny, because AB is down for manteinance right now.
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What happens the day one of those people go crazy and delete everything with no warning?
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>>157106069
Another archive goes up and this all starts again. It's the law of the universe.
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>>157105831
>troubling things
What troubling things did they hear? Will they share that with the community?
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>>157106047
Are you sure you're just not a compulsive liar?
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>>157106069
With Pantsu someone sets a new site using the same code and a scrapped database (admin might give a way to mirror the db)
With .si it's Nyaa 2.0
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>>157106110
Pretty sure, yes.
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So are those rumours that Nyaa.si is a spyware site and Pantsu is a malware site true or nah.
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>>157106160
Take a wild guess.
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>>157106160
can/would you even insert malware when the site's open source?
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>>157106176
This actually happened

It's documented
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>>157106160
How about you make your rig immune to those things first and not give a fuck?
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>>157106160
How do videofiles contain spyware?
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>>157106228
No, but they'll probably don't give a fuck about any nyaa's replacement.
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>>157106228
Not yet.
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>>157105755
[12:15:09] <Daiz> herkz is a guy and isn't trans btw
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>>157106228
Nah, new devs aren't interested in old nyaa's drama.
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>>157106228
not yet
not like they care when they have anidex
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>>157106250
Why would you trust a guy who went bald at the age of 20?
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>>157106228
No but Doki does just fine without Nyaa.
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Just let the people that hate anime use the cartel site they probably don't even seed.
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>>157106272
Maybe he's bald because he was enlightened by the encode gods.
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>>157106272
Who said I do? I just wanted to relay this statement he deemed important to make.
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Which Nyaa is endorsed by Daiz?
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>>157106320
>he deemed important to make
It's not like he's a fucking king. He was just chatting. Besides, calling Herkz a tranny is just a derisive rumor rather than something people actually believe.
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>>157106347
both
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>nyaa.si is down
Looks like the cartel doesn't seem to be able to keep their site online
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>>157106272
>making fun of cancer patients
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>>157106347
.si has the Official Daiz Seal of Approval™.
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Can someone post both IRC channels ("#nyaa @ Rizon.net", for example), please? I can't find them.
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>>157106362
>a derisive rumor rather than something people actually believe
I'm fairly certain this is how this cartel shit started and look where that got us
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>>157106160
Yeah, reptilian hackers insert spyware into your annie mays.
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>>157106347
>>157106401
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>Nyaasi
>Nyazi
>Nazi

Nyaa.si = Nazi confirmed are you sure we shud trust dis?
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>>157106347
>>157106401
daiz tried to get mod status in pantsu irc by acting cute with emoticons "teehee you should just give me mod status, just kidding teehee" but they told him no, so he jumped ship.
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>>157105854
To be fair, .si does look cleaner and better visually from a complete outsider's perspective. Add in the backing of previous nyaa devs for brand recognition and they've pretty much got an unbeatable advantage in attracting users.
Muh freedums, private isp, and all the other things that /g/ put on a pedestal doesn't resonate at all with the tech illiterates that make up the majority of the userbase.
You're dealing with people that rate their user experience by the quickest and most convenient method of getting their porn, not how the site's code respects your freedoms.
Having both up is better for everyone anyway, so it really shouldn't be seen as a competition to begin with. Pantsu even has the advantage of being virtually unkillable.
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>>157106504
damn that's pathetic
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>>157106449
Cartel shit started because fansubbing involves a lot of networking so it has some truths to it. Calling herkz a tranny started because fuck that guy.
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>>157106504
It was mostly in jest. Alucard or whatever offered to give him +v out of nowhere and Daiz said why not. Then someone said "I wonder what /a/ would say if they find out who just got voice here." So people just threw jokes about giving him more rights.
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>>157106513
>Add in the backing of previous nyaa devs for brand recognition
This is dumb though. Anyone who learned anything from nyaa dying should know that having a centralized tracker is just asking for trouble and since .si's tracker is whitelist only it's even more closed off.
But you are right about
>Having both up is better for everyone anyway, so it really shouldn't be seen as a competition to begin with
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Let's start calling nyaa.pantsu "The Pantsu" to differentiate the nyaas and make my bad puns easier.

>>157106513
>Pantsu even has the advantage of being virtually unkillable.
Please elaborate.
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>pantsu is dead
>si is dead
>moe is dead
anime killed cloudflare?
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>>157106584
>It was mostly in jest
Teehee I'm sure it was a joke teehee, just give me mod tee hee hee really just give me mod, there's really no ulterior motive behind it, I promise.
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>>157106593
It's open source.
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>>157106593
It's set up so that it can easily be copied in case it gets taken down for whatever reason.
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>>157106593
The guy who's hosting pantsu has his own datacenter and is his own ISP. Which means shit like the ISP taking down the site cause someone sent them a DMCA letter won't happen.
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>>157106622
I said mostly. Of course he'd have been happy if he actually got rights but it's not like he actually expected it to happen and would've left the channel if he didn't. He still lurks the channel and says shit now and again.
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Why do you guys fight with each other?

Can we just unite in one community to secure the existence of ot/a/ku culture?
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>>157106644
>Eliot.
Who?
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>>157106670
>and is his own ISP.
That sounds pretty cool.

ONII-CHAN, BUY ME MY OWN ISP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>157106696
>believing any of the crashing is because of proxy wars and spam
Holy fuck why are you so stupid?
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>>157106670
>The guy who's hosting pantsu has his own datacenter and is his own ISP
Fucking what? Is he a millionaire or something?
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>>157106689
That's not going to happen since .si and the cartel has been hostile towards pantsu from the very start.
Even if pantsu wants nothing to do with it the cartel will still spread their slander.
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>>157106702
What happened to the "do not put all your eggs in one basket" wisdom?
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>>157106720
He's not hosting it though.
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>>157106618
I can't even track all the fucking mirrors right now. so nyaarchive is now .si. pantsu is still pantsu. nyoo is also pantsu. .rip works. .nl is either owned by .si or a new upcoming one. did I forget any?
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>>157106689
No, because long-term .si is not sustainable, it will and can be taken down, if you look at it from an analytical point of view, pantsu has a more secured future, it just needs users, but even without those users it will do fine by scraping other sites, over time pantsu will obtain more content than .si can and will have better up time, it's down a lot now due to changes being constantly made.
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>trusting Diaz who wants to use the site to track what pron people download for his Fakku shilling
>trusting the guys that say they openly hate anime and just want to profit from adds
>turning away from a community project with Mod Logs

Is /a/ just retarded? Should /g/ of let us die?
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>>157106702
Fuck off herkz
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>nyaa.pantsu is down again
Welp, looks like I have ti join the ark side of the cartel
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>>157106787
>Mod Logs
What's that?
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>>157106250
herkz is a beautiful woman.
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>>157106689
There's nothing wrong in having more mirrors of the same site. /a/ has 2 archives too, right?
>>157106696
<aers> daiz are you actually ddosing ab and pantsu?
<+Daiz> just pantsu
<aers> lol
<+Sunako> perfect
<+Daiz> ;)
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>>157106781
>One is crashing because it's ran on a fucking raspberry pi.
this meme again
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>>157106765
Obviously lost on the cartel since they want the ad revenue and control over moderation.

>>157106777
That's the beauty. If one goes down, we'll have alternatives. The cartel is trying to stamp out "competition" with their whitelist only tracker, refusing to share seeds.
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>>157106446
>Can someone post both IRC channels (
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>>157106781
>because it's ran on a fucking raspberry pi.
It was moved several days ago to a proper server, retard. It only crashes now because the devs are actively developing it and pushing changes to live.

Who the fuck knows what's crashing the .si but it being because of DDOS is just a rumor.
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>>157106732
Or a government agency.
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>>157106781
>it's ran on a fucking raspberry pi.
It's not. Stop bullying pi-chan
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>>157106809
It's a hunk of wood cut from the modification tree.
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>>157106835
Half of these threads are repeated memes.
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>>157106720
>guy makes running nyaa site in a few days
>cartel gets mad
>cartel attempting to doxx
This is the kind of backstabbing I expect from the cartel.
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>>157106784
Don't forget, pantsu's tracker is non whitelist while .si is whitelist only, and opensource so it can be easily cloned, and is hosted on it's own datacenter and ISP. Pantsu is the way to the future.
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愛じゃなくても恋じゃなくても君を離しはしない
決して負けない強い力を僕は一つだけ持つ
にゃあにゃあ にゃあにゃあにゃあ
にゃあにゃあ にゃあにゃあにゃあ
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>>157106850
Probably caused by shilling to the elevens and now they're being crushed by the 6 million hug of death.
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>>157106847
I wonder where you can find them. It's not like they're on the fucking sites themselves or anything.
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>>157106809
When a torrent is removed from pantsu, there will be a documented log that says by who and why.
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>>157106827
The site is opensource, made to be easily cloneable with daily db dumps planned so anyone else can make a mirror or backup immediately. You have nothing to worry.
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So which site that subber groups willing to upload their stuff right now?
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>six million horny elevens

I'd crash as well.
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>>157106909
Does .si have this?
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>>157106930
Absolutely not, you're kidding yourself if you think the old nyaa staff is going to change.
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>>157106781
>I don't really give a shit, I just want my anime.
TT, the hero we need but don't deserve.
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>>157106956
I knew they wouldn't. Too bad if you say anything about them you get your posts deleted on /a/ too!
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>>157106914
Regarding pantsu, it doesn't matter if they want to or not, their torrents will be scraped and added to pantsu's database, something .si will not do.
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What if all subgroups just conglemerated under HS?
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>>157106819
>There's nothing wrong in having more mirrors of the same site. /a/ has 2 archives too, right?
That reminds me that we seem to have learned literally nothing from foolz being a single point of failure in archiving, and the iterations before them, too.

We need to diversify. Redundancy is good, as long as those redundant sites also scrape from each other (so that seeds aren't split).

I'll put this on his list of misdeeds, too:
>[X] Promoting a single point of failure system to kill all anime in one strike

>>157106905
Both nyaa.si and nyaa.pantsu are down. Can't look the IRCs up there, if the sites aren't up.

>>157106909
Thanks, I see.
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>>157106931
>pantsu will just scrape them anyways and will have more torrents on the site too since they have a non whitelist tracker
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>>157100616
Yeah, nah. Fuck those sites. I'll be using pantsu, the un-kiked option.
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>>157106978
>Both nyaa.si and nyaa.pantsu are down.
Both just randomly crash in small intervals. Just keep refreshing. .si is working as I type this and Pantsu was working 5 mintues ago.
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>>157106819
>/a/ has 2 archives too
4, actually.
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>>157106931
HS is not a subgroup.
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>>157106978
>We need to diversify. Redundancy is good, as long as those redundant sites also scrape from each other (so that seeds aren't split).
Fucking this. Why is .si running a whitelist only tracker? Do you want .se to happen again?
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I don't trust anything with a .si
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So is this the pantsu thread?
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>>157107016
i meant fullimages archives
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>>157106975
Having all our eggs in a single basket is what got us into this mess in the first place, having multiple sites isn't a bad thing, the bad part is that they don't want to play nice with each other (looking at you .si)
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>>157107046
They don't sub anything so no. I already know of some OVA and BD subbers that wont be uploading their work on the cartel site.
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>look at herkz twitter
>that fucking autism
>look at the top of his profile
>less than 1:10 ratio of followers per tweet
I'm torn between laughter and cringe.
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>the archives had to die four times before /a/ learned that eggs in one basket lesson
>Oh no, torrents are different, let's put ell am in one basket because fansub drama and bandwaggoning newfags
Sasuga /a/
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>>157107046
HS doesn't do subs, they rip from CR automatically.
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>>157107063
Popularity attracts more popularity. Thats never going to change.
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>>157107034
Because we only track things which are on the index?
Why would we track batman?
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>>157107097
Shut the fuck up
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>>157107092
So why do I have to hear about Herkz all the time?
Why is he so popular on /a/?
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>>157107115
I think some people have their goals messed up, the goal shouldn't be to be the more popular one, but to be the more stable one, and having many people work on something is better than having a select few. The popularity comes later.
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>>157102222
trips confirm
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>>157107127
Make me /v/ newfriend
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>>157107102
Of course not but now we have the option for a fresh slate to upload to a place not run by twitter attention whores.
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>>157107133
Herkz is the hero we deserve.
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>>157107133
>he
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>>157107097
Why do you think pantsu is open source and easily cloned?
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>>157107140
I'm saying it's an automated script, lurk harder.
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The funny thing is that while we're here bitch fighting the teams are actually talking about some sort of DB connection between the sites.
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>>157107119
Because it's anime.
Cartoons=anime
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>>157107127
He's completely right, go fuck yourself.
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>>157107155
I've been here since at least 2013 you little shit
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>>157107140
>>157107046
poe's law
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Pantsu better
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So

How long until somebody starts asking donations?
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Their plan is working.
We have become divided, and soon we shall be conquered.
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>>157107097
Pantsu is the complete opposite of that mentality though.
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>>157107188
SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

GOD
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>>157107202
I give it a week
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>>157107180
They aren't though. Not right now at least. They're just aware that both are considering.
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>>157106810
post em
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So this is xanax vs PTP (APL/red) all again

In the end the "cartel" will win since they are the ones with actual uploads/releases instead of the new meme site but oh well
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>>157107155
Wow, that's an almost perfect render. Would be perfect if the edge on the bottom 1/4th on the left was slightly smoother.
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>>157107230
that's private. she sent those to me in confidence.
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>torrents by loli enthusiast (something illegal)
>torrents by women and moralfags
GEE
I
FUCKING
WONDER
WHICH
SHOULD
WE
CHOOSE
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>>157100616
>nyaas death gave us a chance to free ourselves from the cartel
>/a/ willingly returns to them like a beaten wife
I thought everybody hated the cartel? Obviously the cartel doesn't want to give up their modpower and after pantsu told them to fuck off, their strategy consists of agressive shilling of their new site.
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>>157107221
>They're just aware that both are considering.
They're still more reasonable than their respective userbases.
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>>157106107
That pantsu is run by a furry rping neo nazi
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The shilling going on both sides is so bad and has been going for a while now that I'm staring to think this is /pol/-tier 4d chess played by anti-piracy fags, so if you actually want your anime, read very long post/history lesson and try supporting all the nyaa clones:

As there's just too many things to address and too many falsehoods in these threads, I'll just start somewhere.
The cartel meme seems to be believed almost unironically by some people here.
The truth is, the fansubbing scene, even 10 years ago, was mostly comprised of tightly knit groups that had many connections with each other. That graph everyone posts is not exactly accurate, and sometimes some groups that are shown with few connections actually had a lot more.
When you wanted some project done, you could either do it yourself and work 12-36 hours all by yourself every week for a single episode, or contact with other fansubbers you knew and split the work.'
Even back then, any group I could think of would share a few members among each other, even the groups you guys think are not "cartel" actually shared staff, almost any serious fansub group I can think of would have connections with any other fansub group, by 2-3 links at most (one shared member each).
Almost everyone knew everyone. There's some exceptions to this: lone /a/nons translating some rare show, or various one-off projects that were more personal things you did for yourself. Even groups that you may think were less connected be it a.f.k., Triad and some others had some connections, even if far removed.
Groups like gg, commie, sometimes Eclipse, UTW, BSS, Shinsen, Menclave, FFF, Mazui and others actually had tighter connections, although it was mostly divided in 2-3 sides and those connected with commie are the few that survived.
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>>157107202
2 weeks for .si

The first week to start calling themselves the number 1/exclusive place to get anime torrents. The second to start asking for donations "Or fansubbing will die".
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>>157107097
Exactly. Remember when fansubbers started boycotting TT, because everyone had to use nyaa and nothing else, and then nyaa went down for 2 months?
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Wait, so the cartels wins again?
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>>157107260
>They're still more reasonable than their respective userbases.
I don't think the opposite has ever been true for anything.
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>>157107202
Donations is better than ads, and far better than Donations and ads. :^)
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>>157107286
YEAH
/g/ fucking BTFO yet again
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>>157107222
It doesn't release subs it releases rips
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>>157107275
[citation needed]
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>>157107238
I love a good underdog story.
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>>157107301
>implying si won't have both
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>>157107255
>torrents by loli enthusiast
Dropped.
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>>157107245
[citation needed]
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>>157107245
I'm 100% convinced every poster that posts using his name and is against pantsu existing is a shill for .si at this point.
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>>157107238
fun isnt it?
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>>157107312
Rips from Crunchyroll so yes they're already subbed.
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>>157107312
No, the subgroup by defintion is the one that actually made those subs, the official subgroup behnd them.
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>>157105023
Fucking kid, get off of my lawn
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>>157107222
>>157107304
>>157107312
It's been years since I saw this argument.
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>>157107256
/a/ does hate the cartel, this is proof of that.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12947028/r
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>>157100616
Who else here enjoying herkz's meltdown on twitter?
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>>157107312
It's a rip, what they rip is already subbed, they have nothing to do with the subs.
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>cartel crushing their competition

It's really impressive how hard people will work to protect something that has no financial incentive for them. Like it's just a bunch of fat neets getting territorial about file sharing websites.

Personally I'd rather have a site that isn't run by Daiz just because of the obnoxious drama and the hilarious "color coding" that elevates their buddies regardless of actual sub quality.
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>le open source meme
This doesn't mean that a new site will instantly be made. For all we know that if pantsu dies Daiz will take this opportunity to prevent that from happening.
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>>157105023
What's with your unreadable color scheme?
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>>157105794
No anon, the data must be equally distributed using one universal tracker.
Seize the means of seeding and magnets.
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>>157107385
I wish I could but Herkz blocked me on Twitter
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>>157105023
>that text color on that background
Do you have eye cancer yet?
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>>157107062
They do and it's a non whitelist tracker. It's running under a different ip though, I forgot what it is, somethingdokosomething.
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>>157106209
Is the server proprietary? If so, fuck knows what they could be running on it.
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>>157107394
>run by daiz
>people believe this shit
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>>157107394
Cartel will get ad revenue and their e-peen will get bigger.
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>>157107277
Would be easier to convince people with diagrams of their connections, too.
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>>157102100
>middle aged adult men
As opposed to middle aged teenage boys?
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>>157107385
Why do you always call it a meltdown? The complaining and circlejerking sure is pathetic but I don't think what it's doing is something you can call a meltdown.
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>>157107286
99% of anime downloads today are HorribleSubs rips and they're going with their cartel buddies, which means that even if the other guys steal their torrents there's going to be a delay in uploading and less seeding on the alternative site, right? If so, then yes, cartel wins again and even the most diehard hater will be using theirs two weeks from now at most.
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>>157107463
It's called twisting the truth, anon.
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>>157107277
cont'd

Why did they mostly go extinct? Because anime started being simulcasted, there's little point in competing with CrunchyRoll when they can do releases at the same time as the anime airs in japan. You still have BD/DVD rippers and people doing OVAs, but there was less need for fansubbing and people started retiring.
At least some of the evils attributed to Daiz are entirely due to this, but /a/ does love pinning things on him, much like blaming movax was a tradition, but at least people knew that was a joke!

What happened around when CR was starting to get popular? HS and Commie(Rips) appeared. This was a very natural reaction to 2 different needs: most of us want our anime and don't want to deal with having to pay for it, or disgusting streaming, want our ability to filter, use alternate subtitles, ability to split, edit or otherwise use the content in any way we wanted, so obviously someone would have appeared that ripped simulcasters, and that was HS.

these fields are too short, it'll probably take an hour or 10 posts to paste this pasta.
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>>157107245
>>157107275
>lying on the internet
but why?
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>>157107423
To me it just seems that he wants help.
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>>157107423
He never said he only wanted people to work on pantsu, he just wanted to work with them, not against them. is the cartel really this fucking stupid?
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>>157106316
Is this the face of a enlightened guy?
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>>157107463
>>157107483
It's called hyperbole. You probably did this a few times in your lifetime to get a good laugh from peers.
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>>157107394
>Imblyign

They can now get ad revenue and will probably ask for donations all the time because they wont be "able" to afford the servers without anime fans help and they'll doomsay about how this might be the end of anime as we know it
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>>157107286
Did you think you could escape from Daiz's schemes?
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>>157107497
Continued

At that time, simulcasters had shit quality, and despite being given good sources, they used to fuck them up on a regular basis, and besides that, they lacked things someone used to fansubs would want to have, like chapters, good typesetting, at least a subtitled OP or ED, and the video quality wasn't that good at the time for CR, so the very obvious idea of taking crunchy's subs and making releases that are like fansubs, but using official scripts appeared, and that's what CommieRips did and it was good as it satisfied those needs, much later Commie grew and had large workloads and the old leader retired (and there was some drama there too) and other people there took the torch, somewhere along this, gg loved making liberal translations with some memes/jokesubs/trolling added (but not as bad as Ayako at times) and it seems some editors at Commie have sometimes done similar things, which is probably one of the things /a/ hates about them (but CR sometimes does just as bad, remember Gabriel Dropout last season?).

Some encoders worked with CR to at least get them to improve their quality and CR has reasonably passable quality, often better than TV sources nowadays, however Funimation and TAN are hardsubbers and can be ignored unless you want eyecancer, although Funi video might be better than CR's today.
After more years passed, CR's monopoly was almost absolute, with very few shows each season having to be fansubbed, so few groups survived, even Commie/FFF and other remaining groups that did fansub-like releases, with either official translations or their own (more rare) had less work to do and became less active, the fact that CR at least partially got their act together on the video front made "fansubs" mostly useful for better typesetting, chapters and of course BD/DVD releases.
So this is the state of today.
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Don't you guys have jobs to do?
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>>157104838
Both of the IRCs are fucking shit because they dev channels are separate and the main channels are for shitposting.
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>>157107538
I'd like to reserve calling it a meltdown until after herkz bemoans falling into irrelevance, thanks.
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>>157107423
>>157107563
>t. Daiz
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>>157106149

Their actual site is up, just the homepage shows that. Try accessing an old AB URL that you visited.
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>>157107538
You really believe that, don't you?
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>>157107573
No I do it for free.
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>>157107416
You idiots do realize his Twitter is public, right? If you're not signed into Twitter, you can view his brain shutting down.
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I don't follow internet drama. What the fuck is going on and who sperged out again? Can't you faggots go a day without some shit like that.
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>>157107569
Continued

What exactly is this "cartel" as we know it nowadays? Nothing more than the fact that the community shrunk so much that staff sharing is incredibly common, just the remaining fansubbers banding together and working on projects they want done. While in the past you had to have some connections to find some staff if you lacked some, now you could just ask if anyone want to help you with some project and if you manage to get a team together you can do some show for some season.
What about the Nyaa collusion? Nyaa had the amazing idea of hiring some of the more well-known subbers to be mods, maybe to get them to post more releases on his site, maybe so they could pick "good" releases, the whole "blue" releases being the best one available, and "green" for some uploaders that are trusted to do real releases. This has sometimes led to minor abuses of power and drama about what releases are considered "good" and overly inflated drama on /a/ - if some torrents wouldn't have been marked this way, like they weren't on TokyoTosho, you probably wouldn't even have this "cartel" meme today.
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>>157107591
Ah crap, you're right. I just needed to refresh the browser cache.
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>>157107573
>he's a wage slave
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>>157107547
People would just migrate to anidex, anon.
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>>157107385
Is this true?
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>>157107613
Tell that to the guy sperging out.
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Hello nips
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>>157107563
>>157107423
>make open source code aka make the secret sauce recipe known to all to share and modify

somehow this is anti competitive? He pick a non /g/pl license so anyone can clone the project for any reason. Open source developers just do not like forks which splinter development,like some autistic want to really one work on gui,and add useless feature while the main branch want to work on bugs and core issues
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>>157107480
>less seeding on the alternative site, right?
Do you even know how torrents work?
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>>157107623
Continued

This way you mostly get releases made by some of these "bigger" groups marked as being of quality, and because those groups would follow all the rules of what one expects of quality fansubs/rips (at least having chapters, a reasonable encode, decent typesetting, but this doesn't say anything about the translation source or translation style). You'd know what you were getting. Is it really the best release? Not always, it's not like they would bother checking every release to see if they're really the best available, and what is best for someone isn't best for everyone, it's subjective. The right way to do this is to just go on anidb, get a few episodes every release out there (and look at group comments and scores) and see what you like best, but that's too much work for most leechers, you'd rather someone tell you what is "best"? And that's the crux of it. What Nyaa did wasn't even that big a deal, it was just a flag for some torrents about being "good" while all the others remained just fine, while for sites like BakaBT you actually only had one good torrent visible and the rest hidden or inaccessible.
The current fansub and ripping community is already far smaller than it was in the past and what do you think if you guys got your wish and HS and the "cartel" (this somewhat open ad-hoc collaboration platform) was gone? You wouldn't be left with that much, a few /a/nons doing .ass subs that you'd mux to some raws, far lower video quality, less consistent and on-time releases, maybe waiting a few days until someone refined it, this often happens on rarer, less popular shows that are neither simulcasted or fansubbed by "big" groups, having to wait a few days or more.
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>>157107563
"instead" can be used in terms of priority, he never said "Stop work" or "Drop everthing else" pantsu was by far in the lead, the site was up and working before .si, if they instead helped perfect pantsu instead of making their own after the project was already started, we could have two nyaas that are perfect rather than two semi-good copies of each other. I'm not going to start construction of a new building of the person next to me is willing to let me in on the project.
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>>157107638
They did boast about their Japanese userbase before it migrated, but I wouldn't say they claimed to have "won" unironically.
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>>157107649
Fuck you, Dazai. Go drown in a canal.
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>>157107638
>"W-w-we don't care about Japs"
>Goes to 2ch to shill their site
>It crashes from all the people trying to enter it
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>>157106446
>>157107011
Got them.

Nyaa.si is:
#[email protected]

And pantsu is:
#[email protected]
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>>157107693
This is not the pantsu dev channel, this is the shitposting channel.
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>>157107683
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>>157107706
Their dev channel is for devs only, not the public.
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>>157107667
Continued

What if HS was suddenly gone? Someone would rip CR because it's easy to rip, but would you get everything ripped exactly at the same time as official releases? Probably not, and you'd fare much worse for non-CR releases, at least this season that's about a third if not more of the shows, quite a substantial amount, for those you'd be left with far lower quality screengrabs or begging for a certain "cartel" member to rip them for you, which wouldn't happen, because if you got your wish they'd be gone too. I've also heard of some rumor about the possibility of HS intentionally delaying releases to their site while posting it on another torrent site. This is fairly stupid as well, because if people didn't notice already, HS is an autoripping bot from various paid streaming sites and requires no human intervention, and their releases are late when that bot breaks in some way and some real human has to go and fix it, there's not many other reasons for HS releases being late, either CR is late or their bot broke in some way, or both.
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>>157107731
You can idle in it just fine. Just don't talk off-topic shit.
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>>157107638
>i-it's not like traffic matters for a website h-hehe stupid 4channers
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>>157107731
Yes and what purpose would there be to joining the regular channel? Nothing happens in there but off-topic discussion.
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<BotoX> fuck avatars imo.

No giant pony this time, it seems.
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>>157107706
Ehhhhhhhhhh?

But there is no other IRC channel listed.
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subscribed
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>>157107734
Continued

The only one to win there are buyfags who get mad at people watching HS or fansubs, who will now look with glee at those poorfags who have to watch lower quality releases or nothing at all.
What about those privatetrackerfags? Most of people shilling private trackers don't understand the distribution model and interests in this scene, most groups want to release to the widest audience and in a way that anyone can access their releases, or at least, without major difficulties, this has been the case for most groups and they often provided alternate ways of downloading their releases with TokyoTosho being the standard indexer, which then changed to Nyaa due to Daiz (one of the few sins of his that are legitimate). If the public model were to fall, you'd get much fewer releases, much more splintering as this community is already fairly niche, this isn't like the actual release scene where every and any release would get mirrored. Most of these guys just want to have everyone easily access their releases. What you get on private trackers is usually just the public releases, but with better, more dedicated seeders. Most groups care about their releases and don't care about private tracker drama.
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>>157107754
Jesus Christ. Fuck off, tech illiterate.
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>>157107277
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>>157107734
tldr, the spyware is the only reason I need to pick one over the other.
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>>157107754
Oh, okay, found it:
#nyaapantsu-dev
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>>157107531
He was above all others, and had nothing to do with it: he had simply forgotten to desire. . . .
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>>157107638
No, japan doesn't matter in the slightest because they're not allowed to pirate, they have to fund second seasons of my favorite shows.
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>>157107775
Continued.

So if "cartel" is this good, what have they done that is bad?
Daiz got people to post only on Nyaa after TT was unstable and having issues. Some people saw this as irresponsible because single points of failure are bad and nyaa wasn't sufficiently mirrored. I hoped this day when Nyaa wouldn't come, but it did and it was a real possibility. Now we have to deal with the loss of some part of Sukebei, although at least enough of the japs posted on TT too.
Is Daiz as bad as they say it is? No, most things on that list are obvious and easily confirmed falsehoods, yet anon like to hate on him like he was the antichrist, probably because Daiz actually gives them attention. He's usually tried to push or raise awareness of some newer technologies, but he probably shouldn't have used that pull he had to shill for more centralization (like Nyaa), and he's probably not as relevant as people think he is, he hasn't done fansubs in over a year, just check Underwater's releases on anidb. He was a mod on Nyaa, but that's gone now.
What about the collusion on Nyaa where some groups got banned? Not having been part of the "cartel" myself, I remember that even in less known groups, Doki and Chihiro's releases were considered mediocre at best and often worse, at least when they started. They lacked respect even in what you'd consider fairly non-"cartel" groups because of all kinds of mistakes they used to make in the past. Maybe that has changed today as everyone learns given enough time, but I can't say much about it as I haven't watched many of their releases in a while (I've seen some Doki BDRips some months ago and they were alright). I can't say if they deserved that ban, but if they were banned for a political reason, that's only Nyaa's fault in choosing fansubbers as mods. Should he have chosen someone else? I don't know, but his tracker was largely meant to be a platform for most big fansub groups.
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>>157107638
>everyone complains about your site going down
>post results that explain that it is overloaded by 6million nips
>cartel releases their own version calling your site unstable,cartel version is down

>proceed to damage control on /a/ cause they see people are anti mexicains
>proceed to shill on /a/ and 2ch
>mock Japanese usage of competitor site.
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>>157107638
oh man, does his butthurt know no bounds?
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>>157106670
>The guy who's hosting pantsu has his own datacenter and is his own ISP

That is why it was running on a rpi uh
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>>157107809
Continued

So what about these 2 indexes that we have now, pantsu and si?
Pantsu is a /g/ project, not entirely connected to current fansub groups, but not entirely removed from them either, if you were to look at their channel.
It's open source, the database is freely available, it's meant to be an attempt to restore Nyaa database through scraping. It was an archive only, but that has changed.
It's unknown if it can handle large loads or high traffic, and Japan is already testing their capabilities a bit too much with half the traffic being from there already. This could be fixed in the future. In the event it dies, people can build clones (there are a few) as long as database dumps are published regularly.
They've started working on it very soon after Nyaa died. The code quality is supposedly not that good, but what can you expect when you have to rush a project to market in less than a week. They develop live on the site and this is the major reason for downtimes.
There's also a lot of falsehoods like accusations about DDoS, the first large downtime earlier today was due to them running out of disk space while scraping.
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>>157107794
The elevens watch raws because they can't be fucked to record shows themselves, and they aren't going to stay up until 2am just to watch cartoons.

They still buy goods and shit.
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>>157107790
tanasinn please.
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>>157107838
Shut up retard.
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>>157107822
pantsudev is not the one hosting pantsu anymore
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>>157107835
Is anyone even reading this. tl;dr?
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>>157107775
>Most of people shilling private trackers don't understand the distribution model and interests in this scene
I think everyone knows. Moreover a lot of the special ripping methods, remuxing guides and deDRMing is discussed a lot on private trackers.

People don't want to get DMCA'd for seeding on public trackers and I'm not sure if you've noticed but people are becoming more and more anti piracy because of their fucktarded brainwashing.
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If you faggots are so butthurt about pantsu losing, you know you can do exactly what .si is supposedly doing? DDoSing and shilling on 2ch?
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>>157107835
>6 million nippons
>half the traffic
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>>157107835
Continued

Nyaa.si is a project started by various people in the fansub community or with connections to them, but not nearly as connected to the "cartel" as you'd think, although I'm sure some of them capable of coding contributed to it. I've even seen some annoyance from some of them when accused to be "cartel" when they were only part-time fansubbers without direct connection to Commie. They don't have the old mods Nyaa had, they're not even the same people, although I'm sure the Nyaa staff and some fansubbers had some knowledge about this project. It began at a similar time as Pantsu. Nyaarchive continued on a Nyaa.si, it wasn't really "taken over" or whatever other conspiracy theory /a/ is coming up as. The same way as Pantsu not allowing uploads and then allowing them, Nyaarchive with uploads became Nyaa.si.
Nyaa.si also has their own tracker and this allows downloading both the torrent file directly (without magnet) and showing seeder/leechers (the health of the torrent) in real time, which is something pantsu can't do unless they start running a tracker too.
They also have a more complete scrape of sukebei, but I expect pantsu to catch up on this eventually.
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These threads don't belong on /a/ anymore.
It's all just twitter drama and irrelevant bullshit.
If you want to get buttmad about torrent sites, stay on /g/.
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>>157107880
no
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>>157107901
Tell that to a mod.
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Mods, please ban these cartel threads. It's effectively advertising, as they're doing it for ad revenue.
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>>157107638
Is he taking about his own .si shills? Cause they're the ones saying .si won over the nips.
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>>157107666
Probably not. I thought cartel intentionally isn't sharing their toys so the other guys won't have access to their seeders and seedboxes?
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>>157107277
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>>157107497

>>157107809
>cartel realize their power, proceed to abuse it,and control the means of production
>forcing their "good" intentions on to us the viewers

all cause they don't wanna join a open transparent nyaa. Right know we are seeing their bloated egos from their "nyaa" power bubble exploding,and grasping at straws to form a new institution to to replace the eroded nyaa one,and make this new one more to their liking.

>muh rank system
big fucken deal
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>>157107895
>xx of the dead not on .si
>sukebei for the time it was up, did
Keep telling yourself it's more "complete"
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>>157107638
>>157107812
>>157107817
>he's too lazy to screenshot because he's taking things out of context to slander pantsu
This has to be a new level of butthurt.
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>>157106198
My guess is that /a/ is full of shit. But for once I actually don't want to be wrong.

>>157106209
You can always paste a link to a drive-by download or something simple.

>>157106218
Like what, set myself up on a segmented network that sandbox tests every incoming scrap of data before it even leaves the DMZ, and have all of that be a virtual network operating on my one rig? I'm not made of processors.

>>157106236
Good question. Codec exploits?
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>>157107960
A face only a mother (male) could love.>>157107969
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>>157107480
There's an automated script to do that.
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>>157107969
pantsu had XX of the dead.
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>>157107995
>My guess is that /a/ is full of shit.
Congrats, you won.
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listen I realize you guys aren't crazy about Herkz but that's no reason to misgender her.
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>>157107775
>The only one to win there are buyfags who get mad at people watching HS or fansubs,
Having a CR subscription doesn't make you a buyfag, only a retarded faggot with no clues about anything.
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>>157107987
He's always been butthurt.
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>>157108038
This. Buyfag = importing (or living in Japan)
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>>157107969
Both sites pretty much share the same public DB for archived nyaa shit. At least sukebei is up on .si
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>>157107995
It's spyware, senpai.
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>>157106236
anyone using their site is automatically logged,and profiling starts based on your anime choice,and is compiled to explain you. Then it sold with your ip as a cross references along with your computer fingerprint,and browser finger print to match other databases.
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>>157108038
Why do you keep posting with Gabriel Dropout images?
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>>157108077
It's his "avatar".
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>>157108064
>public DB, see, that's where you're wrong.
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>>157108074
There is nothing in that could possibly ever harm me in anyway. I mean I use windows and google products already.
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>>157107277
>The cartel meme seems to be believed almost unironically by some people here.
It most certainly does exist to some degree, which is why .si exists at all.
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>>157108077
What are you talking about?
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>>157107895
Continued
What about all the accusations from either side? Most are false.
I don't believe herkz even has a stake in Nyaa.si, if you'd paid attention you'd see he still recommends TT and AnimeTosho for old Commie releases. I think he's still mourning the loss of Nyaa.
I have no idea if Daiz has a major role in Nyaa.si, but given that he hasn't been doing fansub work for over a year, I'd doubt it.
If you actually paid attention to their IRC room, you'd see that they don't even intend to retain various Nyaa policies, it's hardly as much "cartel"'s tracker as Nyaa was, but it does have more connections to subbers than Pantsu does. There's even a real possibility that what you call "cartel" won't even adopt it unanimously, if we're to take the meme that "cartel" is truly something unified (it's not), however what I'm sure most of them are hoping is that Nyaa.si will become as reliable as Nyaa used to be, but at the moment there isn't solid trust in this possibility, it's more like a hope.
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This shit needs to be stopped before it becomes the next GG.
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>>157108077
Why are you NOT posting Gabriel Dropout images?
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>>157107895
>/pol/ in the jew side again
what a surprise
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>>157108064
one is trying to modernize anime sharing, with a decentralized database. The other is simply trying to exert control on users.


>>157108123
why is the cartel shilling paragraphs?
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>>157100616
Shilling for the cartel's shitty site should be a bannable offense
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>>157107275
Is that supposed to push anons away?
I'm starting to realize who are the good guys in this clusterfuck and who are the cancer.
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The Cartel killed Nyaapantsu so they could have complete control over fansubs again
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>>157108123
Continued
What about Nyaa.si development model? Started closed source, but if you followed the threads, you'd see their dev posting a dump of their source. I've seen some claims that its as much of a mess as Pantsu's code. What do you expect when both of these groups only had one week to get their project to market?
They also claim that they'll release regular dumps (maybe weekly) of their databases, similar to Pantsu, to prevent the loss of content that happened with Nyaa's death from ever repeating. It's unclear if they'll have some A+ system like Nyaa did have in the past.

Some people claim that Japan might not like the .si extension, maybe that was oversight on their part, but is Si the same as Shi?
Spyware? Retarded streamer meme. It's just a torrent site, none of them have any ads or worse code on them, of course, anyone can upload anything and some torrents

could have malicious crap in them, but this was true of Nyaa and it's true of this and any site. Most anime releases are clean, some stuff like some games on Sukebei

could have crap on it, so use your common sense. I've never actually encountered anyone getting spyware from anime torrents, you'd have to be the dumbest of dumb to

do that, maybe you'd need to use latest uTorrent client that has adware to get that far?
Having own ISP? Unfortunately neither site might have enough resources and both have had their IPs leaked, this is very bad and might be bad for their future. This

should worry you because it makes them an easy target for both malicious fucks looking to DDoS and copyright enforcement fucks.
There's also some IRC logs that are faked, just get on all the channels yourself and see for yourself which are real.

(I'll reply to people's replies after, I still have a few more pages to paste)
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For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would use .si. Is it just shills everywhere? Pantsu and open source and won't just up and die like nyaa did. It's absolute freedom while .si is run by the biggest bunch of faggots who ruined nyaa.
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Advertising is against the rules and the appropriate action has been taken against your post.
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I'm just gonna use whatever site people start using
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>>157108172
Dude, if you have a pastebin of this or something, I'd really appreciate it.
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>>157108240
I'm just gonna use what site this anon starts using.
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>>157108234
Remember when saying "reported" wasn't against the rules? Fucking 2012 - /vg/ creation, new bullshit rules etc.
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>>157108234
>reporting a cartel on site with cartel mods
retard
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>>157107895
>which is something pantsu can't do unless they start running a tracker too.
Your news is old. Pantsu has a tracker now.
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>>157108240
So you're gonna use both?
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Cartel paid off HS, its over.
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>>157108274
>implying
Have you noticed the thread's on autosage?
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>>157108225
Continued

So what is going wrong now?
There's too much shitting on each other and a lot of falsehood, sometimes taken to malicious extremes:
> I'm lurking in IRC rooms and cartel people are talking about banning anyone with pantsuu cookies from accessing site.
You have pantsudev spreading jokes like nyaa.si having the ability to check for pantsu cookies, which is not possible for a site to access or check for with any ease.
You have people claiming that one is closed source and one isn't, when both appear to have released source and .si seems to plan to open a github page too.
You have people speculating that Daiz and herkz are behind .si, when they're probably not, ending up making those devs lose motivation for being accused of things they're not. It's also as if those two got all the hatred Nyaa got for not passing the database to someone and wiping everything, because all that anger had to go somewhere.
You have the opposite from the other side too, HS hearing "troubling things" about pantsu. Claiming that they're /pol/ or neo-nyaazis (it's funny at least).
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>>157108195
Only 2/3rds of it would be effective.
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>>157108283
>both
>implying I will not also check anidex
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Threadly reminder that both sites has poor opsec.

91.134.242.243 nyaa.si (moved or evrything is dropped on 80 and 443, still replies to icmp tho)
45.76.38.183 nyaa.pantsu.cat
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>>157108311
Lies, everyone is just responsible with their sage usage.
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>>157108240
I hope we have more than one website, if it's just a single one the story will just repeat itself.
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>>157108345
Bump.
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>>157108310
>we heard some troubling things about them
What exactly?
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>>157108345
bump, the thread is auto-saging because
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>>157108350
Not really since now we have a clonable website. There'd be only a few hours worth of downtime rather than a week.
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>>157108311
>autosage
BUMP LIMIT, IT'S A BUMP LIMIT.
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>>157108314
Continued

The worst of them all is /a/ working hard to unmask both Pantsu and .si, getting their actual (not cloudflare) IPs leaked and actually DDoSing them.
Are you fucking kidding me? .si getting synflooded after their IP leaked and Pantsu getting similar crap. I'm fairly sure neither group involved is willing to go to these lengths, so anyone doing this is basically an enemy of anime piracy, and probably trying to pit /a/ against each other and watch the shitstorm, /pol/ style.
It should be in everyone's best interest to ensure both of these survive and their admins keep up their promises: source code and regular database dumps, to ensure we never get another loss like with Nyaa. We need more mirrors, more scrapers, more easy way to set things up.
Not yet another centralized point of failure like with Nyaa. More decentralization would be good, but neither group wants total decentralization because it's hard to code, so you'll have to at least demand redundancy.
What I expect for the future if none of you fucks manage to destroy these sites? Because fansub groups and rippers trust .si a bit more, I expect more uploads to go there, but it would be a good idea if they mirrored each other, an even better idea if they had a way of sharing data that was open and easy to use, to avoid as much need for scraping. I expect Pantsu to have some uploads too, maybe a bit like TT or Animetosho mirroring Nyaa, however it would be much better if they mirrored each other fully.
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>>157108376
no ad revenue, it's a non-issue, horriblesubs will be scarped regardless.
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>>157108367
>>157108379
>bumping with sage in email field
fucking newfags lmao
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>>157108195
It's pretty clear that the neo-nazi shitposting is done to spite nyaa.si devs. Activate your almonds, anon.
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>>157108345
bump, the thread is auto-saging because si is losing in this discussion.
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>>157108314
>You have pantsudev spreading jokes like nyaa.si having the ability to check for pantsu cookies
Citation needed.
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>>157108398
Continued

What other conspiracy theories I didn't address? Ad revenue battle. Some people speculate that each site wants themselves to succeed to get ad revenue.
I doubt this, because from what I've read Nyaa had trouble staying afloat with the ads he had. I could expect some ads when loads are high enough that there's not enough funds to keep running the servers as is, maybe even from both sites, but if neither site is the most popular, the loads would be lower and ideally if they manage their money right, the costs would also be smaller. For all the claims for profit that I've seen, I don't think fansubbing and ripping is that monetized as you think it is, compared to the crap some "for money" pirate DDL sites do, these guys are mostly saints, it doesn't take too long to look and find crap like link redirectors with advertisement DDLs and more crap like that. I wonder even how some of these groups run themselves, servers, RAID arrays, bots and other infrastructure costs money and some probably don't even make enough to maintain all of that and have to pay for them out of their pocket or from the money they got from actually working a real life job. Without all of this infrastructure, anime would be even harder to find and distribute and this is quite true of some groups older releases that no longer have their own servers and bots.

So what should you do if you want your free anime? Support all the sites, especially good ones, make sure both sites keep their promises. Not >let's break into their servers and DDoS them, these are people that are working out of their free time to make sure you get your anime and this is how you repay them?

This was the last post.
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>>157108392
500 replies is the bump limit on /a/.
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>>157108392
it's a term used on krautchan you newfag
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If only moot were alive
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>>157108413
lol XDDD
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>>157108133
I noticed that Nyaa Torrents is on their thrice.

(Once rather towards the top, when the shutdowns were temporary, twice below when it was killed for good, because I merged two lists and forgot to delete one instance.)

Might post an update later.
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>>157108314
Explain herkz twitter spam then. He's obviously hostile towards pantsu.
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>>157108451
What the fuck is a moot
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Someone just tell me where daiz is so I avoid that shithole. Fakku that faggot.
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>>157108441
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>157108433
He's referencing some long forgotten e-celeb, dude.
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>>157108392
test
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>>157108314
post .si's dev irc chat log.
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>>157107895
You forgot the most important thing: the "cartel" is made up of colossal faggots who get off on having their egos stroked.
So fuck them
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>>157108432
who are you?
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>>157108398
The sole means of protecting your solitude is to offend everyone, beginning with those you love.
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>>157108398
>/a/ is two persons
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>>157108504
I can't even count that high.
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>>157108409
I don't understand. Why is pantsu's ad revenue a concern to HS?
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>>157108498
The hacker known as 4chan.
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>>157108461
on there*

>>157108392
>>157108441
"Autosage" is also used here to refer to what the thread is doing when the bump limit has been reached.
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>>157108468
u mean pantsu shitposters
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>>157108310
From irc chatter, it seems to be something related to ads but I don't know what exactly. Honestly, the more sites, the better. If pantsu focused on its forte: scraping and indexing other sites since it doesn't offer a tracker, it will be like a more awesome TT. It's a win-win for everyone, it doesn't have to be either-or.
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>>157108538
because the Cartel pays HS to use their nyaa with ad money
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Who could be behind this?
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>>157108538
HS will get a split from .si when ads are running, but because pantsu doesn't run ads or even plan to, there will be no split for them.
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>>157108468
he's hostile because he can't attention whore on pantsu.
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>>157108557
>screencapping anything pantsudev says and posting slander about him
Are you sure about that?
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>>157108468
He's losing control, so he's lashing out.
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>>157108432
We're not going to break into their servers and DDOS them silly.
>and have to pay for them out of their pocket
Clearly. When I'm uploading stuff to /a/ often I've paid for it too. You share it because you want other fans to react to it, if no one is watching it or reading it you have no one to talk to.
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>>157108429
Somewhere in the /g/ thread that I don't have open any more, I will have to look up the archives, but here's second hand source: https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/157087644/#157100613
If you really insist I could try to find the /g/ thread again.

You can't read another site's cookies without vulnerabilities in the site or in the user's machine.
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>>157107277
>>157107895
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>>157108621
Can't he just take those hormone pills? It helps people attention whore.
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>>157108577
pantsu has a tracker.
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>>157108680
b a s e d
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>>157108577
>since it doesn't offer a tracker
Pantsu has a non whitelist tracker now.
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>>157108680
Inlining is the most cancerous feature on 4chan-x. Fucking hell.
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4chan global rule 1 states:
1. You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.

Please delete your post, OP.
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>>157108468
Probably just herkz shitposting, but I haven't seen herkz being involved with either project. I don't even think Commie has even decided to go with either one, they may use TT for a while. It's not even known if any or how many of the Nyaa mods will still be mods on .si
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>>157108603
Can you not read? It's cloudflare you tech illiterate.
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Why not just make a new Horriblesubs for pantsu?
Someone can just upload rips from crunchyroll there
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>>157108709
>what is /t/
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>>157108709
>reddit typing
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>>157108709
What law exactly?
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>>157108705
Well, it does look a bit silly, when so many posts are lined in, but I find it to be extremely valuable when it's only a few posts.
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>>157108759
I find that the preview feature is just easier but I've lived on and off forums for my entire life.
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>>157108709
>implying users can delete their threads
fuck you're new
go back to twitter herkz
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>>157108727
>missed the point
sasuga autist
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I'd like to see the face of a lot of people ITT when the two teams are going to implement the db syncing thy're talking about on IRC.
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>>157108826
What's that? Is it delicious?
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>>157108826
i dun care
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>>157108432
Pantsu is being hosted by a rich guy who pantsudev has stated that he's willing to fork out everything by himself but pantsudev is thinking of adding an ability to donate later solely for server costs and maybe another one to buy him beer but that sounded like a joke.
>>
When will Taiga update to include either Cartel Nyaa or Pantsu?
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>>157108709
Like we give a fuck.

- Sincerely,

an American
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>>157108890
>people still give a shit about shanaproject
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>>157108839
I'd say so. Pretty early to say anything, but dev from both sites were talking about implementing some sort of syncing for the DBs.
Unfortunately they switched to PMs because serious talking was sumbmerged by shitposting.
>>
>>157108890
Already a fix for that
https://github.com/erengy/taiga/issues/410
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>>157108899
>Americuck
Has to use server from other countries to host their illegal shit
Yeah you guys sure dont give a fuck
>>
>thread is autosaged
>still reaches bump limit
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>>157108925
And why were devs talking about this in an open channel in the first place?
>>
>>157108826
You better not be lying to me anon, this sounds amazing.
>>
>>157108647
It was >>>/g/60340094 but he deleted the post.
>>
>>157108882
I'd buy him a beer, fuck yeah.
>>
>>157108736
who is paying then
>>
>>157108993
I'm not. I can't say it's going to happen for sure in the end, but they were definitely talking about it.
>>
>>157108970
t. man who has to uses american servers to talk about his moe

>I-I don't have to, baka

Unless you can speak cyka or nip there's nothing even passable compared to this shithole.
>>
>all this drama over shitty websites
The IPFS meme can't come soon enough.
>>
>>157109057
>he thinks neo/a/ is good
How many upvotes you got today fellow redditor?
>>
How long until the drama's over and we have one true replacement?
>>
NEW THREAD

>>157109259
>>157109259
>>157109259
>>157109259
>>157109259
>>
>wake up
>open pantsu
>403

I guess the cartel finally won.
>>
>>157109313
About a month maybe. Pantsu will deploy their sukebei in about a week and .si will maybe finish their development around the same time too.
>>
>>157109313
"One true replacement" is the bad end that will eventually land us in the same mess we're in now.
>>
So basically you useless fucks couldn't even keep the nips at .pantsu?

Fucking kill yourselves, guess the cartel won after all. Useless fucks.
>>
New thread was deleted
shitposters BTFO
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>>157109402
Not if it's pantsu with a readily available source code and database.
>>
>>157109318
>deleted

MODS = GODS
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There are more uploads on Pantsu. So much for the cartel.
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reposting

>pic related - sakura quest sorted by seeds on both
>https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/search?c=_&s=0&userID=0&sort=5&order=false&max=50&q=sakura+quest
>https://nyaa.si/?q=sakura+quest&f=0&c=0_0&s=seeders&o=desc&p=1
>>
>>157109591
.si is spyware, pantsu is besto.
>>
>>157109591
>Pantsu
FOSS
Group effort
Daily dumps
In the unlikely scenario it dies people can simply copy everything and continue business as usual
No advertisements in the future
Made out of love

>Si
Closed source
Cross-seeding is impossible
Ran by the same incompetent and power hungry idiots that killed the original Nyaa
Guaranteed advertisements
Made out of greed
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>>157109318
Fuck off with your generals
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>>157109591
>no seeds
>no new releases
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>>157109591
>One is made by a nazi the other is made by anime fans
The nazi probably changed the seeders/leechers number so it would look like his site is more popular.
>>
>>157109616
Sold me at FOSS.
>>
Can everyone in this thread please fuck off already. This thread is NOT in any way related to anime. Thanks.
>>
>>157109318
>shitposting general
WEW
LADTACHI
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>>157109672
Hi Herkz
>>
>>157109672
Shouldn't you be crying to your fanboys on twitter instead of constantly getting BTFO by /a/?
>>
>>157109672
>The nazi probably changed the seeders/leechers number so it would look like his site is more popular.
So you don't know how torrents worked huh?
>>
>>157109672
kys you bald faggot.
>>
>>157109672
Fuck of herkz
>>
>>157109318
why delete that thread but keep this one up?
>>
>>157109672
you do know they had seeder stats up and running ages ago right?
>>
>>157109730
Last rites.
>>
>>157109730
It's abaout to die anyway.
>>
>>157109616
>Cross-seeding is impossible
I just downloaded something from Si that has multiple trackers though
>>157109742
it's possible, original sukebei had a lot of false seeds
>>
<aers> daiz are you actually ddosing ab and pantsu?
<+Daiz> just pantsu
<aers> lol
<+Sunako> perfect
<+Daiz> ;)
>>
>>157109730
you didn't post an anime image in the op
>>
>>157109730
This one already has >500 replies, why delete it now?
Just go to /g/ after it dies.
>>
>>157109783
No way
>>
>still no magnet Renchon on pantsu
Why?
>>
>Pantsu still has Daiz Summoning Ritual
Fucking based.
>>
>>157100616
Fuck off.
>>
>go to bed thinking cartel eternally BTFO and .pantsu confirmed success
>wake up to apparently all nips having converted to the cartel site and people shilling for it now

Bravo
Bravissimo
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>>157109591
lmao
>>
>>157109948
Japs have shit taste like always.
>>
>>157109948
>cartel shills their site on 2chan et al
>/a/, being the useless fatfucks that they are, dont speak an ounce of moon so they can't do anything about it

It was to be expected
/g/ can't do everything for /a/, after all
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>>157109591
Pantsu's seeds are pretty good for a new tracker, but these results are displaying their own tracker's seeds.
>>
>>157110111
are not*

shit
>>
Once this stupid thread ends, can we stop shitposting?
>>
>>157110233
We have two "stable" nyaa's replacements now, from now on threads like this on /a/ will be most likely deleted on sight.
>>
>>157110319
I hope, based mods, this threads reek of /v/ consolewar pieces of shit.
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>>157109591
And let's take something that was upped recently onto both sites.

Turns out using either will fucking work because they share a lot of public trackers. Who knew?
>>
>>157107255
>torrents by loli enthusiast (something illegal)

wew, maybe try moving to a non shit country?
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How can we explain to the japs that pantsu is the real /ourguy/?
>>
>>157110378
so? if you use .si you're still a cuck
>>
I want to be on the side of open source, but I can't deny that nyaa.si looks much better and the seeder/leecher count is very convenient.
>>
>>157110233
No, we will shitpost about nyaa replacements until we find something better to shitpost about
>>
>>157110402
They probably don't care.
Whoever gets Sukebei up and running first will probably be the go-to website.
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>>157110424
Pantsu's scraper is slow. Sorry if that makes me a bad person for using nyaa.si
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>>157110441
KyoAni > SHAFT.
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