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Decided to rewatch SAO finally. Not sure if its because I just

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Decided to rewatch SAO finally. Not sure if its because I just watched Duraga but SAO is actually pretty well made. Never noticed the first anime how good the animations were.
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>>157063571
I'm going to wait to form an opinion in this thread until I see what most people think and then I'm going to chose the opposite of that.
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You are not allowed to enjoy anything SAO-related, anon, unless some e-celeb decides to say good things about it.
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>>157063571
>SAO
How did it ever become popular, it's awful
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>>157063808
By being good. It actually had the balls to pair the MC with the opposite sex and implied sex and implied marriage.
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>>157063808
Cmon /a/non. Overhyped? Yeah. Mediocre? Sure. Awful? You can stop lying.
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>>157063871
>implied sex
GLOP
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>>157063840
>digibro
isn't that the same guy who keep bashing SAO to no end?
did he have a change of heart or something?
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>>157063948
I dont remember the glop story. I didnt save it either. you have it? For old times sake?
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>>157063974
>did he have a change of heart or something?
Yes, after watching Asterisk Wars he says SAO is meh now.
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>>157063974
Screencap is from Kotaku article on SAO with DigiBro(ny) slapped on.
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deleted all of it after the implied scene
redownloaded it for this screen
then deleted it again
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>>157063840
>>157063974
>>157064006
>>157064058
wow it's like i'm on /v/!
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>>157063983
As I shoved myself into Asuna, I released all of the pent up sensations that I had stretched to the limits.

“A…Asuna…!”

“Aaaah—!!!”

I could feel my hot sperm gushing deep into Asuna as she trembled in yet another climax. Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna. Every time my penis twitched, fireworks would go off in my head.
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>>157063871
>by being good
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>>157063840
I don't even know who this Digibro is but I see him mentioned so often here that I want to punch him.
I bet he's one of those meme spouting faggots you guys worship like Demo
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>>157064126
I can only think of Demo's voice yelling "two years worth of saving"
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>>157064126
Good times man, good times. Thanks.
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>every thread about any anime hated in the west, there's e-celeb bullshit on it
This place is dead.
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>>157064184
>worship
But anon, I want to punch him too.
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>>157063808
It managed to appeal to a big demographic and Its basically the new baby's first anime.
I remember watching it a few years ago and thinking that I would have absolutely loved it if I was 15 years old that was one of my first anime.
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>>157064184
Yes, he pretty much rules over normalfag anime websites, people parrot his opinions like crazy.
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>>157063893
There are only 13 good episodes and the rest is really really bad.
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>>157064191
So /a/, would orgasms be treated like "movement" by nervegear (intercepted and not displayed irl while unconscious) or "bodily function" (like increased respiration and heartrate irl while unconscious)
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>>157064238
Only thing I actually remember from when it aired is the endless glop threads and underaged cancer that actually liked it
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>>157064238
I had so much fun trolling this show when it was airing. the science discussions about microwaves were great.
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It has to be one fucking samefag mentioning youtubers in every thread he can.
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>>157064285
He probably came in real life and it had to be cleaned up by a nurse
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>>157064230
Seems like SAO threads are filled with underage retards. Shocking news.
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>>157064270
Super major tone-shift, Alfheim drama was forced, but after that I enjoyed the SoL it became with them trying to re-establish normalcy after being AWOL for 2 years. Even GGO and Neo Alfheim.
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>>157064323
>Will SAO be considered to be actually good after a few years?
Most likely it would be forgotten except for some nostalgia fags who would claim it was good like Slayers fags.
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>>157064339
D-do you think the Police Task Force took note of coincidental concurrent orgasms across hospitals in Japan?
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The first two episodes of SAO was really, really good
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>>157064184
He's the opposite actually. Demo and his ilk are meme spouting retards but they also like to just have fun and watch fun shows. Digibro is one of the elitest who thinks all anime should be art and moe should die and how great anime was in the fucking 60's and shit, he is basically Miyazaki
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>>157064445
Why do people care what a bunch of normalfag cucks on jewtube think about anime?
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>>157064379
Then you have bad taste or maybe no taste at all.
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>>157064445
>Digibro is one of the elitest who thinks all anime should be art and moe should die and how great anime was in the fucking 60's and shit, he is basically Miyazaki
Except this faggot believes moe = art and old = shit.
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>>157063571

SAO has a really polished presentation - and yes, this includes the animation quality which is well above average.

The issue with SAO is that it doesn't follow its own internal logic and there are minimal/no stakes that actually get further minimized the longer the series goes on. Jesuskun falls into the Superman trap. I think the author to the original LN is terrified of putting the self insert template into any position that isn't 100% safe/badass. The author doesn't realize that the hero's journey need peaks and valleys with the hero being faulty and facing challenges. The heroism and badassness stems from overcoming those faults/challenges.

SAO reads like an adventure story as erotica would be read when authored by a virgin.
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>>157064478
Because normalfags care about other normalfag opinions so they can make sure their opinions align in the margin and they can circlejerk efficiently
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>>157064526
Didn't he write it when he was a teenager, it's literally his own self-insert fantasy
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>>157064616
>Didn't he write it when he was a teenager, it's literally his own self-insert fantasy
No, that was Accel World. SAO is deliberately written to appeal to 20+ years old with mental abilities of 12- years old.
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>>157064494
Care to elaborate and contribute something with a bit more substance? Or is this just bait?
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>>157064478
Because they can't think for themselves so they repeat whatever opinion these guys say on their videos.
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>>157064505
As someone who had the displeasure of watching a couple of his videos, he has no beliefs. He is a giant hypocritical faggot. Sometimes he loves moe, like with K-On which he goes out of the way to praise the art style of. But then everywhere else he hates moe. He basically just likes whatever reddit thinks is good at the time and hates whatever they hate and flip flops constantly so that he gets the most views.

Also he is a drama queen who goes out of his way to stir up controversy on jewtube to get material for more views for his videos. He is literally a cancer on the anime community on youtube and to be a cancer on a cancer is saying something.
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>>157064526
Heros journey is over rated. I rather like laid back shows where the MC is a Demigod. less stressful.
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>>157064686
>Even more good news is that no matter what the western audience becomes, anime will still stay the same by virtue of the big ass pond that separates us from the Jap
Maybe, but 2020 Olympics might change that somewhat when all the normalfags and other cunts will have their full attention on japan
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>>157064686
>I am subscribed to his shit and I can say with certainty that he's not a meme-spouting faggot.
>normies
Not even going to read the rest. Can everyone just fuck off with this e-celeb bullshit already?
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>>157064339
my sides
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>>157063571

The first cour of SAO is great. After that, it goes downhill with the story and NTR teasing.
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>>157064674
There's nothing more to elaborate on. You can enjoy whatever you want, but the fact you enjoyed anything after the first arc of season 1 means I cant even enter into discussion with you because your views are probably so different than mine that it would be pointless. Just because you enjoyed it doesnt mean it was well done in any way. Its really bad melodrama and literally exsists just because its a popular IP.
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The first half of first season is one of my favorites. Then it just all goes downhill after they stop spending their time just fucking around and acting like parents to some random kid.
What is SAO even about now?
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>>157064882
I thought that kid was their glopchild made of fucking data or some shit?
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>>157064686
>its not a pasta

Holy shit actually kill yourself.
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>>157064526
Peaks and valleys were there though. It's just his challenges were the result of his fellow players and his unwise decisions (and the guilt he carried as a result) and not the universe that he occupied. I guess there's not really a grand character arc (at least not one that was obvious / spoonfed anyways) but, like with the LN, it's a collection of short-stories.
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First arc has a great premise, but badly written since it was a collection of shorter stories. Bad storyboards for scenes like Diavel's death, where they did the timescale badly and introduced rejecting a potion for no reason. The Progressive retcon is actually pretty good and fun to read.

Second arc, if not for the bullshit asspulls near the end would have been fine, but they exist so it's not fine. GGO and AIDs is good. Not amazing, but not bad. Alicization is great, amazing. Had to power through the first volume, but so glad I did.
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>>157064900
yeah, it was apparently a glitch or something? I dont remember either but still it was nice. I think two episodes were dedicated to asuna and MC just spending time together like family with that kid. Its been a while though so I may be wrong
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>>157064339
>>157064812
You joke but I was friends with a couple of surgeons at the shock centre at Bastion. They told me about this time they brought a casualty. During the middle of the surgury he popped a huge stiffy then blew his load, all while under general antithetic. Apparently it was a serious issue, because the guy had lost a fair bit of blood and the hard on literally almost killed him.
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>>157064704
This desu
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Not even animation could save shit story with awful characters and writing.
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>>157065052
>cause of death: ejaculated himself to death
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>>157065112
Imagine having sex with your waifu in VRMMO and in the middle of it Bethesda-tier physics engine freak out.
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>>157065167
In bethesda game you'd just skip the sex and get a well rested status.
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>>157064704
I don't think it's overrated, but I think it's far more poorly done than it is done correctly.
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>>157065222
>he plays without mods
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>>157065222
>not using LoversLab brand mods
though desu you'd be having sex with animals and their'd be inflation
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>>157065112
I've been looking for this
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>>157063808
the setting is great
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stop complaining about the bad writing in this show and admit that you enjoyed it ! 90% of anime have bad writing so !
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>>157065210
>That and he made a video calling out everyone because their taste in anime isn't as good as his and they aren't taking anime "seriously enough".
And then he made a video on how it's okay to have Asterisk Wars in your top 10.
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>>157064852
I don't remember saying it was well done. That aside, there were definitely melodramatic points but I didn't get too triggered by them. GGO had decent melodrama ("I shot a guy in elementary school and was socially crucified so guns trigger me") and shitty melodrama ("muh Laughing Coffin ptsd") but it was a pretty neat mystery / thriller overall. Bonus points for new game mechanics and how the characters adapted their SAO skills for the new game (explained in more detail in LNs). Neo Alfheim (just them getting together and doing raids 'n' shit is pretty comfy and low stakes. And the stakes are reasonable to anyone who can empathize with latching onto something with sentimental value. Mother's Rosario is good melodrama though.
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>>157064852
>the fact you enjoyed anything after the first arc of season 1 means I cant even enter into discussion
not him but how can't you enjoy the animation and the ost and the fanservice in SAO ? sure the writing was kinda stupid but we see this in most of the anime
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>>157064882
People seeking normalcy during times of distress. Marriages and childbirth actually spike during times or war and hardship. They were approaching Level 75 iirc. Wanted to play house before potentially dying. Seemed pretty straightforward to me.
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>>157065573
Because im not a teenager.
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>>157065408
It's almost as if he flip flops on everything depending on how many views he'll get for his position or something
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>>157064616
No, he wrote it when he was 27.
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>>157063808
Fist arc is actually good, especially the novel.
Then it turned into shit until alicization, after that some people like it, others love it.
As for me I've stopped giving a shit after I've realized this was a money cow and it would never see a proper ending.
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>>157065612
I see. You are a mature manly man who only likes grownup stuff. Such manlienes!
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>>157064686
/a/ dislikes every youtube attention whore and anime reviewer, you're misunderstanding everything.

The only acceptable one's been long dead.

Which reminds me to ask you to leave if you actually indulge in this sort of faggotry.
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>>157063808
Because it's a first anime for a lot of people now. It used to be a show like Death Note, now it's this garbage. The amount of people I've seen around my campus with SAO merch is crazy
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Why did the Japanese goverment let the VR Games continue like SAO never happened
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>>157065694
>anime reviewer
I want to vomit anytime I read those words. The only thing thats any value is /a/ opinions, sales polls and anime previews.
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>>157065779
Because you cant ban all cars because a few teenagers wrap them around trees.
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>>157065779
> shutting down an entire sector of industry
> basically submitting to terrorism since it was one mega-geek that setup the whole scenario.
/a/non, that's like saying "why doesn't the US ban guns after all these school shootings?"
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>>157065210
didn't watch a lot of his video but you just described snop
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>>157065694
>long dead
That's just a rumour, fuck you it's not true he's probably in a nursing home
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>>157065688
No I enjoy all types of anime. Just not terrible LN adaptations that even faggot fanboys like you cant defend.

>the writing was stupid b-but uh fanservice!
Brilliant. SAOfags everyone.
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>>157065975
Actually I think the writing was ok. Theres more to writing than the plot. The characters were all good, the subplots were good. The only problem I ever had with it was Asuna stops developing after SAO and loses her frickyness. The author clearly got bored with her.
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>>157066039
Oh yea especially that part where his sister falls in lust with him out of nowhere. Really well developed subplot there. You have no concept of writing or plot.
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>>157065951
Take a look deep inside your heart and you will know it to be true. There's no need to keep resisting it.
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>>157066101
Think about whos been changing his diapers and cleaning all the GLOP up. Classic case of falling in love with your patient.
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>>157066158
>this level of blind fanboyism
Responding to SAOfags was a mistake
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>>157066218
Cant even argue against it. Pussy.
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I'll admit that the samurai guy and his group were pretty cool
I think following regular, probably above average middle-aged men around doing life-risking pve shit would have been better than following omniscient and omnipotent korean grinder 1-man-army coldsteel who gets the girl and eats it too
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Say whatever you want about SAO, I'd fuck all of the SAO girls minus aids-chan of course.


And Suguha. Holy FUCK the things I'd do to this woman.
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>>157066286
Id her AIDS and raise little Taytay with her.
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>>157066247
Yep, because its a normal reaction to get into an incestuous love triangle with your brother because he fell into a coma. Guess he is just that cute. hehe kirito is teh strongest!! Wouldnt it be so cool to be him?
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>>157066404
Cousin
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>>157066467
She was basically like a sister to him and you know it. Stop fucking baiting me its too early.
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>>157066519
But its anime and if a young and healthy imouto didnt want to fuck her brother, then there would be something seriously wrong with the plot.
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>>157066404
>>157066519
>Only normal things are allowed.
Do you know how retarded your argument sounds? Not everything has to happen with sequential well placed build ups to spoonfeed retards like you. It's perfectly acceptable for a character in a setting to have an already existing fondness for someone at the start of a story.

There's so much actual shit you could be mad about where SAO is actually bad. But you faggots always whine about shit where you're wrong.
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>>157063840
That's a Kotaku article. Digi hates literally everything about SAO.
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>>157066519
Ill say one other thing. After Druaga, SAO is Shakespear. FUUUUCK that show had a dumb plot. One asspull after another.
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>>157066158
I thought it was pretty clear what was going on. Suguha is very antisocial. Possibly because of her sport (kendo). The way she interacted with the little dweeb made me think she really never had a male friend besides her cousin / brother. Who she was very close to, then suddenly shunned her, was comatose for two years, and is now very close and accepting again (dream come true for her). All this happening at her age when hormones start going... it actually seemed quite explained to me
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>>157066939
Think about all those times when the parents are at work and its only her there to keep an eye on him. Im sure, it, still works even while his mind is somewhere else.
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>>157063571
The abridged for this was way better than it had any right to be
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>>157067057
/a/non, all people trapped in SAO were moved to hospitals a few weeks after it began... nurses were doing the caretaking
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>>157067146
When everyone is comatose, theres noone to hear the GLOP. Dont think for a second you can beat my projection.
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I thought Death Note was the perfect introduction anime for normies. It was good with over the top elements to warn which kind of ride you were getting on. So sad SAO took its place. At least SNK is also there.
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>>157067057
Ah I misunderstood what you meant. Nah. Felt more like I-need-emotional-attachment-to-a-male than I-need-the-d
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>>157064680
Why is there a problem with someone not liking all moe shows just on the principle that there are moe shows? He likes a lot moe shows, and hates a lot moe shows, because they have more aspects that make up their overall quality than just "cute girls".
And he's actually quite the opposite of what Reddit likes overall; he doesn't even like JoJo's.

There was one drama video bullshit thing he started, which he didn't even make videos of, and it had a legitimate point; anime youtubers don't criticize each other and improve their writing, even though their jobs are to criticize the writing of anime.
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>>157067227
Double ah. I'm not gonna try to.
semi-ironically nice headcanon tho
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>>157067250
Why not both?
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>>157065654
More like he acknowledges that different people have different tastes than him, and it's okay if someone likes a series he hates with every fibre of his being.
He has never once said anything good about the Asterisk War.
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>>157065949
Aside from the Asterisk War series, you're right. Snob is every awful quality that /a/ loves to attribute to any other anime youtuber. Annoying, ugly, egotistical, elitist, and loves to start pointless drama just to promote his own videos.
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>>157063571
The animation is mostly shit with instances of sakuga, but that's ever show.

Stop with this shitty generic compliments for a garbage show.
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>>157066158
The nurses were the ones taking care of him.
And besides, I'm pretty certain she was in love with before he got put in the 2-year coma.
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>>157064445
Digibro is obsessed with moe and his favorite show is K-On. You are an idiot.
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>>157067519
If that's true he's a complete biased retard, because the videos people link on threads here to shitpost make him seem exactly like that anon stated.
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>Digi and Asterisk
Rakudai is the final ingredient to make this thread go ackbar
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>>157063571
>SAO is actually pretty well made.
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>>157067487
Nurses only show up when they have to. They spend most of their time sitting at the front desk playing Bejewled.
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>>157066696
But she had no reason to love him. It's just the boring, typical "he's nice I guess" head-over-heels anime love bullshit. She's just yet another character that has literally nothing going on in her life except crawling over MC's cock. She had one friend before Kirito showed up and that guy dropped off the face of the earth faster than Suguha could say "glop me onii-chan". Same with all of the female characters, they have no agency or lives outside of clamoring over Kirito's dick.
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>>157067687
>urses only show up when they have to
Like when they have to change a patient's diapers?
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>>157067713
>girls with no lives
Well, they are all girls that play MMOs.
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>>157067713
>But she had no reason to love him.
Why bother replying when you're going to start off by displaying your complete lack of competency; to continue displaying what I already called you out for. You're a retard who can't accept things unless they're spoonfed to you, so open your face wide and get ready for the CHOO CHOO. The reason she loves him, because apparently emotions are logic based in your pathetic attempt for a mind, exists prior to the start of the story.

Limit your argument to complaining about how all other girls who never met him before fall head over heals for his cock, that's an argument you can make.
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>>157064210
Kek
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>>157064210
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>>157067940
>The reason she loves him exists prior to the start of the story.
Get your head out of your ass and smell the glop. It's objectively terrible writing, and the reason there is no reason for Suguha's affection toward Kirito presented to us, is because the author himself has no idea why she would love him, because he's a terrible writer.
Character emotions and motivations need to be explored to develop and endear the audience to those characters. But apparently you think it's okay to skip that step entirely because the inception of her love for Kirito happened before the story started?
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>>157068213
They didnt spring to life as teenagers.
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>>157067713
>Same with all of the female characters, they have no agency or lives
>MMO players
What a surprise
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>>157066816
>kotaku
>digibro
>knowing any of this
I fucking hate this board.
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>>157068410
Good for you
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Stop being tsundere, Digibro is literally /ourguy/
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>>157065871
>the only thing thats any value are opinions of autistic contrarians and obsessive otaku
wew
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>>157063571
>literally who
It's so funny that she was supposed to be a character at one point.
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>>157068319
Not sure what that has to do with what I said.

>>157068410
Sorry for being familiar with stuff commonly posted on here. That Kotaku headline had been screencapped and shared around the web a lot ever since its posting date. I don't use their site in any capacity.
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>>157068536
>normalfag
>ourguy
Only for underaged new people like yourself
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>>157068524
>it was literally just him crying about how there isn't enough drama in the anime scene
It wasn't, I should know, I watched it. Doesn't seem like you did.
>And yet he is the first to devolve into insulting someone for having "inferior taste" and attack others for not appreciating the shows he likes.
Any examples or proof of this?
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>>157068213
>It's objectively
Multiples of your statements are objectively wrong, and I'm the asshole who's pointing it out. Don't want to feel like a dumb shitbrick? Stop posting like a retard on an anonymous image board. The first quarter+ of SAO is written like shit, and there are multiple arguments and facets of it you can successfully attack. But instead of doing so to any of them, you chose to focus on something that you didn't like. And it happens that this dislike of yours is irrational. Simply because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's objectively bad. That's not how objectivity actually works.

And then you go on to state that interactions need to happen for people to be endeared about the characters. Bitch did you stream the second arc as youtube highlights or were the interactions between them too complex for you to understand. Oh wait, I forgot, you've already demonstrated that you can't understand anything without being spoonfed, so of course you didn't understand what was going on between them. inb4 you continue to be retarded and try to find fault with her falling for somebody who personifies someone she's already fallen for.
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>>157068630
But he loves moe and dislikes old shit
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>>157068536
digicuck is a hipster with shit taste so I guess he is literally /a/ in person
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>>157064686
Digibro is an egotistical maniac whose whole taste is defined on how much he sees himself in the anime he's watching. Like, He liked Giarlish Number because, in his own words "He's literally chitose" or he will like Kobayashi because they both drink and he somehow perceives himself on kobayashi.
Go ahead and check the rest of the things he likes, it's all the same reason, like anime for him is some sort of mirror that he likes to hold to see himself reflected. That's why he's such a shitty critic, reviewer, analyst and all the bullshit he pretends to be.
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Cause it's more interesting if girls like the MC!
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>>157068688
>dislikes old shit
Since when did /a/ hate old shit
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>>157068668
Pointing out that I'm attacking Suguha's characterization instead of attacking an entirely different part of the show isn't an argument, you know.

So last question. You genuinely, literally believe that there is no reason why an author should create reasons and motivations for the characters to feel the things they do? It's perfectly reasonable that there is no conceivable reason as to Suguha being in love with her brother? Fuck off with the cousin bullshit, it's not about blood, it's about the fact that they were raised as siblings.
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>>157068837
You are pretty autistic about this.
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>>157068688
>dislikes old shit
Does he? I've never seen him say anything like that.
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>>157068837
I've made my arguments. You haven't done shit against them, simply bringing up new shit for me to smack down. Here's another smackdown for you: A normal sibling relationship isn't one where at the age of 9 your older brother purposefully distances himself from you. You don't even understand the setting your complaining about.

Let me spell this out for you, really simple like. Sword Art Online is apparently, too deep for you. Let that settle in. It's not that you have trouble understanding paranoia agent, or evangelion. Fucking SAO is too complex for you to grasp.
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>>157069007
Got it, character don't need reasons for affection, as long as they acquired that affection before the start of the series. SAO truly is the Evangelion of Cowboy Bebop, a landmark of our generation. Hopefully someday we can all be as enlightened as you.
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>>157068642
>It wasn't, I should know, I watched it. Doesn't seem like you did.
The whole purpose of the video was how he is the only one who takes anime "seriously" and he proceeded to call out nearly everyone for any reason he could think of. That isn't stirring up drama?

>Any examples or proof of this?
Now you are either trolling or a retard. Nearly all his videos where he critiques anything he goes into attacking people for liking what he doesn't like. His fucking Asterisk War series is full of shitting on people who enjoyed the show and then when he gets called out for being an elitist ass he hides behind "well it's just my opinion I don't care what you like, everyone is free to enjoy whatever"
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