>create magic system which gives each users specific limitations,

>>157057307
Because Kurapika is a demon who needs to be wiped out by the Troupe. The fucker got lucky he slipped out of his hometown before they got to him.

>be the best at everything at the same time

oh you;re just retarded
as expected from shonen shitters

>>157057307
What do you expect from a shounenshit manga? Of course, the author had to make the main characters a bunch of special snowflakes.

>>157057307
>gets extremely withdrawals after using Emperor mode.
>his Triumph card is limited to only like 9 people in the whole world
son, you are stupid

>>157057307
Because he surpassed those limitations by giving himself an even stingier one.
Imagine if Enhancement users couldn't be able to use their power against, say, Emission without dying. That's Kurapika now.

All the Spiders have to do is face-change some random nen mook to look like Chrollo and send him at him, bang, dead.

>>157058661
>Emission without dying. That's Kurapika now.
but you are wrong. only Jail Chain is the one bound to the promise and the spiders, the other 3 can be used on anyone else, but he needs Emperor mode to use em aside for Ball Chain

>>157057840
Because they are the best at everything and win every fight?

Go crawl back to the other threads anon

>>157058609
That's wrong, his triumph card is the "promise" chain, that he can use with ANYONE.

The only chain limited to 9 people in the world is the restraiment chain. He can use all the others freely.

So basically he can use his power bullshit freely except for the restraiment chain, he can still stab you in the heart with the good one. The red-eyes buff also works when he gets mad, so even if he gets mad usually with those 9 guys it can also be used on anyone.

Because in his D&D campaign, DM Togashi was impressed with player Kurapika's role-playing skills despite being a terrible rule-skirting min-maxer.

he ain't the best at everything, his other nen types just become at the same level as his specialty

if he's complete shit at using his specialty, during emperor time all the other nen types will be just as shitty

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>>157057307
>give this guy the ability to BTFU that limit and be the best at everything at the same time, just because
No you idiot, it allows him to fully utilize any category of nen without suffering from the usual type affinity problems. That doesn't make him stronger than anyone else because their 100% can still be better than his 100%. Look at Uvo. He was still the stronger enhancer even if you count emperor time. But like was shown, if you make a build to counter your opponents strengths it doesn't matter how much stronger they are than you if you can negate it.

>>157061992
This explains it clearly. Kurapika's 100% Enhanced punch is like pre Jajanken Gon level.

But apparently reading the damn manga is impossible.

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>>157062441
"w-wow so hard"

>>157061992
So all Kurapika has to do is train in each category and he's broken as fuck

>>157062674
Life has memory limits genius. If you train one thing you can dedicate 100% of your effort to it. If you train 2 things they each get 50%. If you train 6 categories of nen than each one gets 16% of his effort. He's already found a workaround by gimping a few of them to only work on certain people but Kurapika is focusing on Conjuration first and foremost with his other traits being ancillary. This is wise in his case.

Plus just because he can use all the nen categories doesn't make him a better fighter than someone who only can use maybe 2 for their own hatsu.

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>>157062674
And you know what happened to the last guy that tried that, right?

>>157062865
>>157063198
He can still train his overall abilities, he has basically no training in York New so his 100% at the time is lower than his actual 100%.

Kurapika would never be Uvogin but he can still improve his overall nen power.

>>157063930
The point is that even if he does that he will never be broken. Training everything won't get to those results need to train one thing for a very long time to become anything resembling overpowered

>>157057307

I still don't understand how people cannot get this shit. Just because you are capable of being good at everything does not automatically make it so.

Kurapika is just a conjurer with some bs workarounds and a restriction that lets him fight against 8 or so people 100 times stronger than him. That's it

Can't understand how someone would considered him broken if you have read at least up until the ant arc. You all are a bunch of fucking idiots

>>157064326
>>157064300

>The point is that even if he does that he will never be broken. Training everything won't get to those results need to train one thing for a very long time to become anything resembling overpowered

Also this, thanks for not being an idiot

>>157057307
Kurapika is just broken against the Spiders, try facing him against another top tier and see what would happen.

>>157058927
Not that anon, but you're still wrong, Jack.

Kurapika can't use the Arbiter Little Finger outside of Emperor Time, because it's an Emission-based ability. The restrictions and drawbacks inherent to Emperor Time are therefore, also inherent to Arbiter Little Finger.

>>157057307
He isn't the best at everything at the same time. Emperor Time boosts his aptitude for each category relative to his actual position on the chart (i.e, relative to a Conjurer, and not a Specialist).

A Conjurer's Emission aptitude limit is 40% aptitude, that puts him at around the same Emission-aptitude as a level 4 Emitter, but that's not really saying anything, as an actual Emitter's Emission-aptitude goes up to 100%.

In other words, an actual Emitter still trumps Kurapika in Emission, unless they're an absolute novice who doesn't know shit about their category.

>>157058841
The other 3 aren't that great anyway.
The Healing Chain is balls without Emperor Time and even with Emperor Time it's not very strong.

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>>157057307
Because he has special eyes.

Let's be clear: there are two chains that Kurapika can only use against the Spiders. One of them is the one who stabs you in the heart and forces you to obey a command or die: we know he can't use that one outside the Spiders because Kurapika told that to Gon when he asked to be pierced by the chain.

The other one is the chain that forces you into Zetsu. That one is pretty broken. I think Kurapika told Uvogh he could only use that one against the Spiders.

He still have a lot of little bullshit abilities, the chain that heals him (presumably limited to himself), the chains he used to know if someone is lying or not, but in combat, the two best chains can only be used against the Ryodan.


However, something I cannot understand is what's the advantage of being a Manipulator instead of Conjurer. Kurapika pretended to be a Manipulator by having the chains constantly materialized. A Manipulator is limited by having his object at hand, if whatever he uses for his ability is removed he's fucked. A Conjurer can create his weapons at will, and make them invisible too. What's the advantage of being a Manipulator then, if a Conjurer can do the same and better? I get that Manipulators can control other living beings, but it sounds like if you're a Manipulator and make an ability not centered around controlling people you're just wasting your shot.

>>157057307
It was better explained in the manga. Emperor Time doesn't give him 100% affinity for all categories, but instead just maxes out his potential, meaning he still gets 80% max transmutation, 60% max enhancement etc. In other words, he could be 20/100 conjure, 10/80 transmutation, 5/60 enhancement, and emperor time sets them to 100/100, 80/80 and 60/60.

>>157065089
It's weird though, because Kurapika uses the Arbiter chain on himself to facilitate his restriction on Chain Jail. He must be the sole exception.

>>157065089
Probably because people think they could confiscate the chains from him and he'd be powerless.

It also may be how people approach him. For example a manipulator who can only manipulate the objects of other manipulators. Or someone who swears to never fight a conjurer to gain power.

Karapika is a trap

>>157065089
The main advantage of being a Manipulator is the ability to manipulate enemies. But Manipulation is also used to imbue certain attacks with certain effects.

It's a vital part of Genthru's Countdown bomb, and it's how Shoot can seal parts of his opponents within the cage he's conjured. Manipulation is integral to more intricate Hatsu abilities.

That's not even bad, wait until they introduce Killua's younger brother with a dragon ball wish ability or change Hisoka's bungee gum ability from an extremely offensive/defensive ability to something that can do anything to get Hisoka out of any situation.

>>157065143

Kurapika used the Arbiter chain on himself with the condition of not using it outside the Spiders, I think his technique became stronger after he made that promise.

>>157065199

Yeah, that was the trap Uvogh fell into. He never took into account the possibility of an invisible chain because he thought the chains were real, not conjured.

>>157065267

The point is, a character like Morel would fare better being a conjurer. He could materialize the pipe anywhere, and he could make the smoke invisible. What would he lose? The individual puppets, maybe. Kurapika didn't seem to have any problem controlling his chains even though he should have Manipulation limited at half of his capacity.

>>157065898
>The point is, a character like Morel would fare better being a conjurer.
The point of his characters that he wasn't born a conjurer and had to work with a real pipe.

Also manipulators have far more control over what they move. Shoot's hands have more precision than Kurapika's chains. The latter of whom basically either wilds them like anime whips, or let's them sink on the ground before wrapping his opponent. His overall control was basic.

Same with Morel. His nen constructs could be given more complex orders and function independently without being nen beasts (which don't necessarily obay their host) or Goreinu's gorillas (which require constant conscious control).

Pure manipulation is still strong even if a conjure could mitigate one of the weaknesses a manipulator has.

>>157066330
>The point of his characters that he wasn't born a conjurer and had to work with a real pipe

Yeah, and my point is that he would fare better not making an ability that depends on having an object that can be broken or stolen, and instead make something that allows him to either control people or to spam puppets. Smoke is still a good election I guess, but depending on the pipe to generate the smoke makes it more problematic.

>>157068376
Did it occur to you that the pipe being large might have something to do with his own restrictions? Also he has a massive lung capacity so a large pipe benefits him better since it will produce more smoke by vortue of having a larger container to burn stuff in.

No ability is perfect. Shoot is a manipulator that conjure his ability but has flaws and probably cane with heavy restrictions of his own to be able to produce a micro dimension. (I speculate he willingly sacrificed his arm).

Abilities having flaws is part of HxH.