Makoto Shinkai seems depressed. How do we cheer him up? We know

>>156855816
Also older women.

>>156855816
I think he has a foot fetish as well. Maybe we should all send him pics of our feet?

>>156855938
But he IS older

The only thing he loves more than clouds is heartbreak.

He's depressed because he rides on a single idea of trying to reach something already lost for 10 years now with slight variations.

>>156855976
Yes, he seems quite infatuated with feet.

When Taki gives Mitsuha back the rope, that's also mutsubi.
Their meeting again was assured at that point, you shouldn't have doubted.

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>>156855816
Haven't you seen the movie? He's absolutely right to be depressed.

In fact, why the fuck aren't you depressed? It's been almost a month since I saw Byousoku and I still want someone to put me out of my misery.

>>156856441
There is no musubi IRL. Only eternal longing.

>>156856521
>In fact, why the fuck aren't you depressed? It's been almost a month since I saw Byousoku and I still want someone to put me out of my misery.
You build up a resistance to Shinkai over time and many rewatches.

I was surprised to find how happy Your Name's ending was. maybe he is recovering thanks to all the money and fame.

>>156856673
5cm still kills me though.

>>156855816
Just don't go watch his movies. He seems to hate it.

>>156856741
Probably a producer who got tired of his shit and told him to turn it into a happy end.

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How can we be happy when people like Taki and Mitsuha, whose actions greatly changed the fate of an entire town's people, can't even remember or be remembered for doing such a thing, with the message boiling down to all humans can do is wait for something to happen?

>>156856747
I rewatched it again last week and hardly felt a thing.
You get used to it eventually.

>>156856937
Kimi no Na wa doesn't have a message. It's not telling you to wait for something good to happen. That was just the feeling that they had due to mutsubi.

>>156856673

Bullshit, I cried during every single one of his movies, every single time. Most of his shorts, too. That fucking cat deserved better.

Then I watched some series that wouldn't have made me cry normally and cried at those. Anohana. Shigatsu. Even fucking Clannad made me weep, and I already knew about the cop out ending.

Yesterday I woke up, remembered 5cm, remembered that I never even had an Akari to long for, and cried.

Today I went shopping. There was a train crossing on the way. As I waited for it to pass, there was noboby around me, so I cried.

Tomorrow, I'll probably go binge some more drama and cry some more.

I'll never seize the day. I'll never connect to other people in a meaningful way. I'll never relive my childhood, I'll never blush just by holding hands, and I'll never get flustered by the idea of sex.

There won't be any reconnecting with old friends. They haven't been the people I'd befriended for a long time, and I haven't been the person they once remembered and now forgot. I can barely remember their names.

It's been over for me since the last decade. All Shinkai did was make me realize this.

>>156857352
Jesus Christ. Just kill yourself already.

Or even better, just accept life sucks.

>>156857548
Fuck you, anon. You don't have it any better.

>>156855938
Is she older than Taki though?

>>156857663
No, I don't.

>>156856120
yea that single idea doesnt sell money

>>156857805
So why aren't you killing yourself?

>>156858042
Because life can suck but I don't. Unlike you.

>>156857352
Cry some more. I cried from all those series too but I don't even feel sad watching 5cm now.

>>156857767
Did you pay any attention?

>>156858308
What? She appears to be younger than Taki so the three year difference might equalize their ages.

>>156855816
>Makoto Shinkai seems depressed. How do we cheer him up?
>We know he loves trains, clouds and space.
>loves trains, clouds and space.
>trains, space

Make him do a remake of Galaxy Express 999!

On a second thought, that would kill him and us from severe depression.

>>156856673
Bullshit, I've watched all his movies several times, and Through the years and far away still puts tears in my eyes.

>>156858427
Her age was shown in the list of casualties from the comet. 17, the same as Taki.

>>156857767
Did you even watch the movie?

>>156857352
Fucking hell, learn to use the spoiler tag you moron!

On other news, all that crying is not normal, go see a darn psychiatrist, you are beyond the realm of psycology.

It's not even the plots of Shinkai's movies that get me down. I can't think of the word at the moment, but when the music and art/animation work so well together makes me hate real life.

>tfw no riverbanks to walk along
>tfw no beautiful garden to sit in

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>>156856441
Or it was her giving him the rope in the first place that tied them together (ignore anything about a time paradox). Taki giving it back could have severed the connection.

>>156855938
>you will never take an easily-impressed older country girl to a cafe

Did some old cougar take Shinkais virginity? Was there extensive footplay while he was on his back, looking at clouds and listening to the sound of trains passing by?

Is that what he's been searching for all his life?

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>>156856937
To say that this movie doesn't have any meaning is a stretch. Now, I don't mean to say that a movie has to be preachy to be good, or that a movie has all movies have themes, but it's pretty clear cut here. Just like 5cm was about moving on and accepting loss, Kimi no na wa is about NOT moving on and NOT accepting loss.

>>156858533
That's perfect, it has an older woman too.

>>156855816

>We know he loves trains, clouds and space.
Cute! CUTE!

>>156861126
>5cm was about moving on and accepting loss
Really? It felt more like it was about some losses being so great, you can't move on from them even after you've forgotten about it.

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>the drumming that starts once they walk past each other at the brigde

The masochist in me wanted it to end there. I would have hated and loved it and the same time. I'm glad we had a happy ending though. But there is still something that give a slight depression in it.

>>156861440
Well he moved on at the very end

>>156860041
Her giving him the rope was what made THEM body swap because it was a connection between them.
The connection severed when Mitsuha died.

>>156861440
The entire point was that him hanging onto the loss was ruining his life and it would only improve when he finally gave up and moved on.

>>156861440
Watch his face as he turns away from the railway tracks.

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>>156861693
That really wasn't an "I guess all my deep-seated psychological issues are solved because of this one moment" kind of smile, anon. She moved on. He waited.

>>156861675
Doesn't mean it's a possible thing to do.

>>156861559
What's even better is when you realize that the starting vocals for the song (もうすこしだけでいい) are both Taki's and Mitsuha's thoughts at the time.

>>156861837
Maybe not, but it's the correct thing to do.

It actually helped me get over my hardest break up

>>156861837
Yes, she had moved on while he was locked in the past but when he turns away from the tracks you can see that he has lost that depressed expression he had. He is moving on.

It's probably not right to say he waited either. He did have a relationship with that girl in the third act for a while but he hadn't put Akari behind him.

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>Taki was the one inside her
did she literally say it like that?

>>156861976
yes

>>156861837
Yeah, but he realized she had moved on and that he had to do the same.

>>156861976
>私たちは、会えばぜったい、すぐにわかる。私に入っていたのは、君なんだって。君に入っていたのは、私なんだって。

>>156861559

>But there is still something that give a slight depression in it.
On one hand, this is because the movie convincingly evokes nostalgia/natsukashii.

On the other, I believe it's because people aren't fully interpreting the ending. The sense of loss so closely connected to nostalgia, which prevails until the last two minutes of the movie, only constitutes the first part of Shinkai's thesis. The second is what happens in those last two minutes. As soon as Taki and Mitsuha's eyes meet across the trains, the fulfillment of Mitsuha's prediction (that if they ever crossed paths in the world, they would instinctively know one another was the other who had been inside them) is complete. This is more than love at first sight. It's Shinkai asserting that when you find the one you are meant to love, it reawakens the all the wonder and special power of your youth, more potently than ever before. In other words, it allows you to reclaim all the beauty of nostalgic memories, but in the present.

>>156862027
I'm not sure he realized she had moved on, he still had no contact from her to know she was getting married or anything, but he certainly realized that he should move on.

>>156862156
Where did you copypasta that from?

I loved how they used dialects in Finmongolian subs. Even the guys who translated it managed to throw in a small message when their company were shown after the actual credits.

Towards brighter future

>>156862218

From my thoughts anon.

Although I did write essentially the same thing in one Your Name thread a little while back.

>>156862027
>>156861975
It still looked depressed to me, or perhaps defeated. Sad smiles are a thing.

At this point, the only argument left is "you're projecting." Which is the point of the movie ending there. Which implies it's left for the viewer to decide, unless Shinkai is a hack who's been having a lucky streak.

My conclusion is derived from the life I've has so far, same as yours.

Except since I don't suck dicks, I'm correct and you're wrong.

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>>156861559
not even masochists would survive if he ended that shit right there

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>>156855938

And feet.

>>156861126
>That's perfect, it has an older woman too.
I know right?
>Maetel
She's misterious and knows way more about life and human nature than the MC
>Relationship with Maetel
Always improving the more the MC interacts with her
>In the end that relationshinp with Maetel is not meant to be, despite how beatuiful it could be
makoto's forté
>Maetel's feet
HNNNNGGGG

See, SEEE? Makoto's GE999 is a perfect match!!

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>>156862625
He may not be happy, and you could probably call it a sad smile, but it's like the only smile you see him with when he isn't around other people so if you don't take it as a good sign of him leaving the past behind then you have issues.

>>156863386
Should I watch this GE999? The movie or the series? Or read the manga?

>>156863029
Honestly, I think an ending like that would have felt cheap. I know people usually think that the happy endings feel out of place, but I think it's too easy to make something sad. I'm much more impressed by the story resonating and being powerful without resorting to a gut-punch depressing ending.

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The small things like those hedgehogs are adorable

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>>156863895
I still prefer the LN version of the ending scene. No corny "have we met before?" line, they both just turn around at the same time and ask their names.

https://fgilantranslations.com/2016/12/29/kimi-no-na-c8-your-name/

The LN doesn't even give the impression they continue walking as far as they do in the film before turning around.

>>156863895

>I'm much more impressed by the story resonating and being powerful without resorting to a gut-punch depressing ending.
Indeed. I was just thinking about this with regards to Your Name yesterday.

Although more to the point, the happiness or sadness of an ending is a completely arbitrary metric for quality-assessment.

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>>156864565
Hopefully they still had some sexy time afterwards

>>156864776

Of course they did. They fell in love.

>>156864565
It's not that it's better just because it's good or bad, it's just that in a movie where time-traveling body-swappers save a town from a meteor impact, a depressing, unrewarding ending would have felt sad just for the sake of being sad, and that would have made it feel cheap.

For something like 5cm, which is about the one of the subtlest and most brutal facts of life, a melancholic and honest ending was more appropriate. Having the characters meet and obtain closure would have deviated from what life actually is like. It would have felt like a bit of a cop out, or a wish-fulfillment, or whatever you want to call it.

So I'd say it kinda does matter.

>>156864857

>it's just that in a movie where time-traveling body-swappers save a town from a meteor impact, a depressing, unrewarding ending would have felt sad just for the sake of being sad, and that would have made it feel cheap.
I'd never thought about it like that, kek. There's truth to that, but it isn't proof that the common valuation placed on sad endings versus happy ones isn't arbitrary. Or perhaps we mean different things. I simply mean that the tone of an ending in and of itself is not useful to criticize. However, when its situated in a broader context like you have done, that's another matter.

The theater in my city has had showings of this for a month now and they're still adding more. What the fuck.

>>156864153
Pretty sure that drawn out bit was just to fuck with the audience, get them expecting a 5cm ending.

>>156864105
Manga is great because the epilogue is from Mitsuha's POV, and it 100% confirms she's purer than the driven snow.

>>156862156
That's a bit of a stretch, and a weird way to tie in the Natsukashii element. I don't think Shinkai is saying something as simple as "fate will prevail and you'll meet your soulmate."

It's a weird way to think about the movie, because Taki doesn't actually have his soulmate tossed in his lap. No, Fate is a prick and killed her three years ago. He has to jump through hoops and bounds, and she has to too, in order to get what they want.

The film is about the struggle to capture the things most important to you. It's going to be hard, and there's no guarantee that you'll even get it in the end - the characters waited 8 years, after all. But these are the only things that matter in life, and you should chase your dreams because who knows when another earthquake might kill everyone you know and love.

There's a reason this film resonated with so many older viewers, rather than just teenagers. The idea that even though the Natsukashii of their youth is gone, like Itomori getting meteor'd, the culture simply shifts and their traditions and values will live on. Like Mitsuha's ribbon, and Taki's dream of building nostalgic towns. Hell, the idea of Musubi controlling everything regardless of era too.

Ironically though, this film has kind of become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Tourism in Gifu is higher than ever, Kumihimo and traditional crafts are selling quite well too.

>>156865210
>Pretty sure that drawn out bit was just to fuck with the audience, get them expecting a 5cm ending.
It worked, though. I was so fucking terrified that the edges of the seat left marks in my palms and I didn't notice until I stood up.

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>watch Your Name
>good shit, time to watch Shinkai's other movies
>depressing shit
>go to watch the movie again for healing

I still have one movie ticket which expires in few days. And sure as hell I'm not using it to see GitS or Fast and Furious 213214. Third time is the charmest I guess.

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>>156865210
>Manga is great because the epilogue is from Mitsuha's POV, and it 100% confirms she's purer than the driven snow.
but she sure is lewd enough to do crazy stuff with Taki

>>156865184
US? Same in my city, thank Funimation for utterly failing to market the film. It may not be a huge commercial success, but going solely on word of mouth buzz does create steady business for the theaters until most of the potential audience has heard of and seen it, rather than all of them going at once in the first week or two.

>>156865783
Being lewd for one person isn't the same as being slutty.

In a way, the purest girls are the lewdest.

>>156865210
I am pretty sure you can read enough into Mitsuha's side in the LN to see that she is pure there as well.
In the beginning, which I believe is the day that they meet because it goes back to that day later in the epilogue, they both say "私・俺は、だれかひとりを、ひとりだけを、探している。"
Mitsuha also gets one of the あとすこしだけでいいから, which is echoing Taki's ones, while she is doing her hair before she leaves the apartment. So that is a strong suggestion that she is in the same situation as Taki.

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>>156858865
the atmosphere?

>>156865991
True, but in the Manga you actually see her reject a man asking her out and turn down a marriage interview. And she is, like, 26. The pressure is pretty high to get married at that point, I bet within a year she and Taki get hitched.

>>156865863
Canada, Toronto. The first week showings all sold out.

>>156866067
Is that what you call it when the world around you transform into something that encompasses the current situation to perfection, if not beyond?

Actually now that I think about it if there is a god IRL he's a total fucking hack.

3/10 would not reincarnate again

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>>156866260
i know what you mean, the real world is so depressingly ugly compared to his movies.

>>156866127
Goddammit. I live in Windsor and want to see the movie again but it's not playing here, and I don't want to go to Detroit.

>>156865184

You in Bellevue? I just watched it there for the e i g t h time yesterday.

>>156865210

I never said anything about fate. But I can see where you might have taken that implication from, since I wrote "meant to love". I meant 'meant' in the sense of the optimal outcome; not as a matter of inescapable destiny.

>That's a bit of a stretch, and a weird way to tie in the Natsukashii element.
Not at all. Nostalgia/natsukashii is in essence the romanticization of the past. It tugs at the heart as profoundly as does a lover. The experience of love is reinvigorating in a manner reminiscent of youth--and both are transcendental, yet also transient.

This is why Taki and Mitsuha's opening/closing monologue was so focused on his ineffable sense of loss. Each was missing something inside they couldn't understand. And then they found it in one another. That's the genius of the movie: it uses an impossible body-swap time travel story to articulate the impossible yearning of nostalgia--and then presented an antidote in the form of human love.

>The film is about the struggle to capture the things most important to you. It's going to be hard, and there's no guarantee that you'll even get it in the end - the characters waited 8 years, after all.
On this we agree. This idea and the one I was exploring aren't mutually exclusive.
>you should chase your dreams because who knows when another earthquake might kill everyone you know and love.
Although I would suggest on this point that the message was more forward-looking: Even if tragedy befalls you, wonderful unforeseeable things (hopefully) await you in the future. Which is basically what you said yourself: "The idea that even though the Natsukashii of their youth is gone, like Itomori getting meteor'd, the culture simply shifts and their traditions and values will live on." But I digress, the difference is one of semantics.

>>156865781

Go for it, anon.

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Did the dog survive the meteor impact? It looks like a shiba inu to me

>>156855816
Cloud Space Train 999

>>156866388
>Although I would suggest on this point that the message was more forward-looking: Even if tragedy befalls you, wonderful unforeseeable things (hopefully) await you in the future.
Maybe, but that's no reason to not chase what you care for. I mean, the whole reason Shikai made the movie was because after the quake, he felt like people should live their lives more urgently and proactively, and that his previous philosophy of "accept loss and move on" was incorrect.

>This is why Taki and Mitsuha's opening/closing monologue was so focused on his ineffable sense of loss. Each was missing something inside they couldn't understand. And then they found it in one another. That's the genius of the movie: it uses an impossible body-swap time travel story to articulate the impossible yearning of nostalgia--and then presented an antidote in the form of human love.
The idea of "love" being an antidote is the stretch part. What fills that hole could just as well be a creative passion or a child or just a new appreciation for life. There's nothing to say it HAS to be love specifically. The point is that you shouldn't accept being empty and accept your loss, but constantly look for what will make you happy.

>>156866595
That's retarded. You never plug up the hole. The feeling never goes away completely. What you're talking about is akin to trying to dry up a swampy sinkhole a hundred meters deep with sand using a child's beach bucket.

>>156866424
This time I need to pick weekend showing. I just need more of those audience reactions. I never expected the boob grabbing jokes to be so well received by your typical audience. Ironic in a way since I love stupid ecchi harems but didn't feel it fit at all in the last two times.

>>156866595

>Maybe, but that's no reason to not chase what you care for. I mean, the whole reason Shikai made the movie was because after the quake, he felt like people should live their lives more urgently and proactively, and that his previous philosophy of "accept loss and move on" was incorrect.
Right, I agree. Like I said, I was quibbling about semantics.

>The idea of "love" being an antidote is the stretch part. What fills that hole could just as well be a creative passion or a child or just a new appreciation for life. There's nothing to say it HAS to be love specifically. The point is that you shouldn't accept being empty and accept your loss, but constantly look for what will make you happy.
This I agree with and disagree with. I suppose the difference in perspective here comes down to how invested one is in Taki and Mitsuha's interpesonal relationship specifically. But yes, on the broader thematic note, I take your point.

>>156866787

>What you're talking about is akin to trying to dry up a swampy sinkhole a hundred meters deep with sand using a child's beach bucket.
I wouldn't say it's so bleak. The feeling might never go away, but you find accommodation for it through the experience of new wonderful feelings in your life. It becomes part of who you are, and that's fine. Incidentally, this is veering into the same hair-splitting thing I just wrote about at the top of the post.

>>156866798

Yes, I would recommend that!

> I never expected the boob grabbing jokes to be so well received by your typical audience.
Your Name revealed quite impressively that normies can be taken in by ecchi too.

>>156856441
>>156860041
The night she wished to become a boy(female), Musubi, the ancient cosmic god from the other meteorite, to whom they offered the sake, linked Mitsuha with visions of the future, to give her a chance of saving her village. She fucked up by fucking around with some guys life instead.

When the deed was done and the guy wants to do something 3 fucking years late, he goes to the shrine and the god gives him a chance to re-link. At this point, he is either warped into another dimension, or somewhere in the universe that town is facing ultimate destruction every second that passes.

Anyways, the guy helps the god find a way to relink that parallel universe with the common universe, and everyone's happy again.

It is possible that since the ancient meteorite being was part of the very same comet that crashed recently, his unfathomable intelligence made him able to predict the latest trajectory and conditions of his primordial comet-form. This makes us wonder about the future of the world with two minor gods having crashed so close to each other on Earth and the fact that a higher being is soaring the solar system.


Kimi no na wa is truly the greatest anime film of all time, its lore runs even deeper than that of Evangelion's

>>156866990

>its lore runs even deeper than that of Evangelion's
This is good bait because it's true.

>>156867051
Do EVA fans actually think the lore was good? Because I've met literally zero people with the correct amount of chromosomes who list the premise or the plot among its strengths.

>>156867137

>Do EVA fans actually think the lore was good?
I have no idea. I remember years ago when I used to think more of it. In any case, Anno put it (whatever IT really is) to good use visually, if not in terms of substance.

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>>156866990
>Kimi no na wa is truly the greatest anime film of all time
that's just, like, your opinion man

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>>156867400

>mfw I just saw Kiki's Delivery Service for the first time on Wednesday

>>156866990
>its lore runs even deeper than that of Evangelion's
not possible, 0/10

>>156867400
>Says the guy who can't get over otaku anime surpassing Disney shit.

I've been wondering why do I even bother with shows anymore. All the good experiences have been from movies. Ironically this is the exact opposite in western entertainment.

>>156867566
How is it not?

Eva's about one species of animal fighting other species of animal over some territory, and the most they can do is turn solid things into conscious liquid. The beings in Kimi no na wa can bend the fabric of time and space itself, and they are shown having a higher purpose than fighting like beasts.

>>156867673
The problem is with shows that are still airing. A good 10-30 episode anime with proper pacing and few pointless episodes can be just as satisfying to finish. Just stay away from long-running battle shonen garbage.

>>156866094
Wait, is that the official manga or just some random fan pages?

>>156863590
Galaxy Express 999 is a must if you like suffering. There are beautiful episodes, but there are others made for masochists.
Also, in the OST is fantastic in its 70's style.

>b-b-b-but where can I find it?
For instance, bakaBT, the prime source for old stuff

>>156866990
>The night she wished to become a boy(female), Musubi, the ancient cosmic god from the other meteorite, to whom they offered the sake, linked Mitsuha with visions of the future, to give her a chance of saving her village.
She already had a memory of being a boy though. When Tessie and Sayaka are talking to her at school and she mentions the strange dream, it's the memory of seeing a boy's face in the mirror and seeing Tokyo (though she doesn't recognize it as Tokyo from the memory).

So her wish means nothing. It was all in the rope.

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>>156867970
Yeah, it happens in the official manga.

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>>156866067
Mise en scène

>>156868173
I might have to pick that up. I'll head to the bookstore nearby later.

>>156866787
>The feeling never goes away completely. What you're talking about is akin to trying to dry up a swampy sinkhole a hundred meters deep with sand using a child's beach bucket.
If that's the case, go see a psychiatrist.

>>156866963
>This I agree with and disagree with. I suppose the difference in perspective here comes down to how invested one is in Taki and Mitsuha's interpesonal relationship specifically. But yes, on the broader thematic note, I take your point.
Oh, sure, and the movie gets you invested. I'm not saying that this wasn't important to them, but I don't think the movie is recommending kids go out their and start looking for love right away.

Or maybe it is, Japan does have birthrate issues.

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>>156867051
>>156868138
>>156867566
Musubi is the moon, not the comet. That's why the moon is so often seen in this movie. Traditionally the god of matchmaking and of the red string of fate is the moon.

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>>156866548
I saw it again a few days ago and specifically tried to find Dog at the end. No such luck.

>>156868345
Dog probably would have died in the 8 years between anyway.

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>>156863552
your the first person I have ever heard of that fucking gets the same impression I got from the ending

>>156868402
Nah, he's keeping Hitoha company in a retirement home in Tokyo or something.

>>156868324

>but I don't think the movie is recommending kids go out their and start looking for love right away.
Of course, I didn't think that either.

>Or maybe it is, Japan does have birthrate issues.
Tbh my personal conspiracy is that Shinkai was hired by the Japanese government to create a movie which would get Japanese kids laid, and so he made Your Name.

>Musubi is the moon, not the comet. That's why the moon is so often seen in this movie. Traditionally the god of matchmaking and of the red string of fate is the moon.
Indeed.

I've tried the last few times I watched the movie, but this time I'm really going to pay attention to the appearances of the moon. Not to mention the various door-slides.

Do you guys believe that love is real? Am I idealizing it in my head?

>>156869058
The door slides are there more to create this parallel between city life and rural life, and in a way show that not all that much has changed. No matter where you live in Japan, that sound of sliding doors is always going to be there.

>Tbh my personal conspiracy is that Shinkai was hired by the Japanese government to create a movie which would get Japanese kids laid, and so he made Your Name.
Imagine what he'll have to put out for 2020

>>156869116
Sure, love is real, but you get what you put into it. And there's always the chance of getting fucked over, but that's true no matter what interpersonal relationship you have.

Go watch Evangelion instead if you want those questions answered.

>>156869116
Of course it's real, anon. But it's like musubi. It fades, breaks, gets tangled and reconnects over time.

>>156857352
Please socialize more.

>>156869116

>Do you guys believe that love is real?
Yes because I love Your Name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywLuLn56bQ

>>156869157

>The door slides are there more to create this parallel between city life and rural life, and in a way show that not all that much has changed. No matter where you live in Japan, that sound of sliding doors is always going to be there.
Ah, you're right. That's a satisfying explanation.

>Imagine what he'll have to put out for 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFQKBqfEWE

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>>156865879
Taki sure enjoyed all that perverted boob fondling at least

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>>156869648
If fondling breasts is perverted I don't want to be pure.

>>156869696
I would drink the shit out of her spit-sake.

I mean, damn.

>>156869696
Is Saliva Sake pure fiction? If it's not then how the fuck it isn't top seller everywhere?

>>156869818
They sell wine that has been poured down the bodies of hot nubile models.

I imagine spit sake exists in some fashion.

>>156869648
>>156869696
what man wouldn't do the same thing in his position?

>>156869818
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuchikamizake
It's real, but nobody makes it anymore, it seems. I'd imagine it has something to do with those liquor laws Mitsuha mentioned.

>>156869818
it breaks the liquor tax law!
but yeah it was definitely a real thing according to japanese wikipedia. I doubt producing it at scale would fly under modern sanitation requirements though.

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is the kataware doki scene the only one where they are laughing? I haven't heard them laugh anywhere else

>>156869951
Well that, and having one idol sucking rice for thousand of otakus might be too much. Not that they couldn't just sell fucking tap water and call it her spit.

I just watched Kimi no Na wa.

I feel confused and disoriented, as is appropriate after a Makoto Shinkai film.

Should I re-watch 5cm/s tonight?

>>156870035
I think this is the only scene that makes me feel practically every emotion possible all at once.

>>156870035
>when the pen drops

One of the better theater experiences with almost whole audience going "ooooh fuck"

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>>156870041
I wouldn't mind if they actually rebranded some of the water as her saliva-fermented saké

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>>156870164
>>156870041
>Hey, anon, what brand of water is that?
>Oh this? It's just spring water branded as the spit of an anime girl. I overpaid for it.

>>156855816
I just watched this the other day for the first time.
I hate ever admitting that /a/ is right...but damn, it was good.

>>156870147
The part after in the LN (linked earlier in the thread) is pretty good

>“Someone important, someone I must not forget, someone I didn’t want to forget!”
>Despair and affection alike all disappeared together. I didn’t even know why I was crying anymore. All my emotions crumbled and disappeared, like a sand castle crashing to the ground.
>“Who, who, who…”
>After the sand had all collapsed, one lump still remained. And in that moment, I knew its name: loneliness. In that moment, I understood. All that I would have from here on was that single emotion. I would forever carry only loneliness, like a piece of heavy luggage someone forced me to hold.
>— That’s fine, I thought suddenly. If the world is this cruel of a place, I’ll show my defiance by living on with only this loneliness in my hands. I’ll struggle with only this emotion by my side. Even if we’re separated, even if we can never meet again, I’ll struggle. I’ll never give in. Soon, I would forget the very fact that I forgot. So, with this sole emotion in hand, I yelled one last time to the night sky.
>“Your name!?”

>>156870053
Do you like crying?

>>156870053
For fucks sake no. You are supposed to watch 5cm before this.

>>156870162

Wow, that was quite something I'm sure. Mostly I've had a few people gasping in dismay followed by the pin-drop silence.

Second view was weird. I felt way more emotions during it, but also noticed more of it flaws. I know the body swapping was just a tool for a greater story, but it really could have used 10-15 more minutes for SoL hijinks before the montage and the comet.

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>>156870628
This is why the english translation of the "Another Side: Earthbound" LN can't come soon enough

>>156868520
I have seen others mention the same thing, part of what helped me realize it.

>>156868173
>>156868250
So it's true.
Also, Mitsuha, Tessie and Sayaka have dinner at the Italian restaurant Taki worked at before Taki sees Tessie and Sayaka at that cafe.

A pity the manga follows the film ending though instead of the LN.

>>156870909
>Also, Mitsuha, Tessie and Sayaka have dinner at the Italian restaurant Taki worked at before Taki sees Tessie and Sayaka at that cafe.

This is weird, I wonder why the movie didn't have Taki sipping coffee in his former workplace as it was already an established location.

>>156870272
>“Your name!?”
I can't help but feel that "your name?" just doesn't stand on it's on well enough compared to "君の名前は？". Could be the vast difference in syllables.

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>>156870628
I don't think that's unique to this film - you're bound to notice more of the little bits to analyze the second time around. It's easier to notice the specifics when you already know the story.

>>156871107
In the LN Taki and Onodera had dinner at the restaurant.

>We had just finished eating dinner at the Italian restaurant where we used to work back when I was in high school. She brought up a fishy promise I had supposedly made way back when to treat her when I graduated. I had no recollection of saying such a thing, but I ended up paying for her anyways and started walking with her to the nearest station. “I didn’t know the food there was actually that good.”
>“Yeah, we never actually got to eat the food during work.”
>“I guess it took us years to finally realize then.”

Completely cut from the film.

>>156871200
Wasn't there a scene where you see them doing something in the background after the memory wipe? I only watched it once, so it's a vague memory.

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>>156870700
can't wait to read that LN with Taki's shenanigans while in Mitsuha's body and all

>>156871115
I think in the movie he shouted "名前は?" and it was subbed as "What's your name?" which didn't feel as off, maybe the official translation will go with that.

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>>156871309

>>156870628
Eh, I wouldn't say that. Like, it'd be nice to have that in hindsight, but that would also fuck up the pacing. Even in the novel, the SoL elements take up a pretty short amount of space. The thing is, by that point they've already established some strong characterization for both characters. And honestly, it's not like they want to build up a titanic-tier romance from the get go.

While we as fans of the movie would like to see more, any more time devoted to those shenanigans would probably be a little redundant and screw up the elegant three act structure.

That's why Earthbound exists, as fanservice.

>>156871115
Well, it's not just that. A more accurate translation would be "Your Name Is?" but that doesn't look great on a poster.
chika chika slim shady

>>156871200
That's not a bad thing though, some things are changed due to the change in medium. For example, in that scene, Senpai tells Taki she's engaged over coffee. In the movie, all you have to see is that glimmer of the ring, and that's all you need.

>>156871181
I had already spoiled myself of the neat details. It was more of an expectations of familiar scene you knew would be sad. I think it's just the whole presentation that get's to you. It's easy to reduce the plot to "muh x" but when you have the audio, editing and art backing it it up, you get a masterpiece.

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>>156871357
pls no lewd

There's a piano music book as well I might have to buy. Already starting to learn Mitsuha's theme but most of the sheet music I found online differs from one another in some ways and different to how this person is playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDLU_N_t_Q

After Mitsuha is running back into town to save everybody, are we to assume that Teshie found her and she just went along with the plan that Taki had come up with? Is this addressed in detail in the LN?

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>>156871457
Taki and Mitsuha are made to be lewded, that's also musubi

>>156871684
In the LN, Taki tells her the whole plan in detail.

>>156871684
>>156871769
Oh, and the "he said sorry for breaking your bike" line shows that they definitely talked about what was going on while the camera was showing the moon.

>>156871769
It's narration though, not dialog. Not surprising it wasn't straight out explained but he says "there's something you have to do" and then there's an obvious skip.

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>>156865781
>tfw nothing fixed the hole in my heart left by the other stuff so I avoid this
>read this thread on a whim
Thank you for giving me hope of finding healing anon. I'm going to watch this now.

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>>156871951
It's good stuff. I'm usually very apathetic person, but where Nier Automata rekindled my love for games; Your Name did the same for anime.

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Posting the rarest Mitsuha

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for some reason Mitsuha would be pretty scary as an onee-san

>>156873190
holy shit anon what did you do this Mitsuha

>>156873190
>Mou konna machi iyayaaa~
>konna jinsei iyayaaa~
>raisei wa Tokyo no ikemen dashi ni shite kudasaaaaai~

I never really liked country dialect in my anime but Mitsuha made me think of it as the cutest thing ever now.

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This scene was almost surreal right before she got obliterated
Kimi no Na wa's animators are living gods

>>156869648
>taki and mitsuha getting down to it after meeting again
>taki touches her boobs
>"feels...oddly familiar..."

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>>156874503
the sake dream sequence is too good

>>156874734
I'm imagining him wearing the same expression he had on her face when Yotsuha opened the door the first time.

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>>156874503
I love this part of the opening so much. It was so incredibly smooth and nuanced.

>>156874503
Yeah they did an incredible job with camera movement in several scenes. I know I should expect nothing less from Shinkai, but when seemingly all other anime does half assed 3DCG it really stands out.

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>>156871592
This kataware doki arrangement on musescore is not Mitsuha's Theme but it was relatively easy to learn
I can't wait for the piano music book to arrive

>how does the animation industry work

>>156874963
Yeah, it's pretty easy until you get to like the 50th bar and then it's fuck you.
Mitsuha's theme is nice because it has a very recognizable starting, partly because it is used in Date and Date2 as well, so if you started playing it people who have seen the movie would pick it up immediately.

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>>156874503

Now that you mention it, you're right, that was a good cut.

>>156866347
Where is it playing at in Detroit? I live 40 minutes from there and can't find a single place it's playing at

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>>156873569

I am familiar with the sentiment you are describing.

It is hard to know I will go without hearing more of it.

Two and a half months until BDs.

>>156864153
>they both just turn around at the same time and ask their names
That sounds cool.

>>156878527
The other part of the reason I prefer it is what they think and feel as they pass each other.

The anime sorta makes it look like they would have continued walking and it was up to Taki mustering the courage to initiate a conversation that saved the encounter. But the LN makes it pretty clear they BOTH felt that they had to seize the chance.

There's actually a small correction that needs to be made to the LN translation there.

>He says nothing, and I(私) too fail to find any words. Still remaining silent, we pass each other. In that moment, my entire body aches as if someone had reached in and grabbed my heart. This is not right, I think strongly. There is no way that we are strangers. That would go against all the laws of the universe and of life, so

>So I(俺) turn around. With the exact same speed, she too turns around and looks at me.

The Mitsuha part ends with だから and the Taki part starts with だから, which makes it clear that while the passing is done in Mitsuhas PoV, Taki shares the same experience.

>>156871592
I wonder how that sounds with a guitar.

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>kinda ignored Shinkai's works for a long time now
>decided to rewatch all of them
>don't feel ANYTHING from any of them anymore though i remember that 10 years ago 5 Centimeters per Second touched me fairly deeply
>watched entire Kimi no Na wa with blank expression
It feels like the only thing Shinkai has going for him is this idea of longing for unreachable and that he's just a one trick pony. I dunno what's wrong with me but it just doesn't hit me at all anymore.

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>I can't find you with this you idiot.

Fucking hell.

>>156879258
>find you with this
It's more like I won't know your name with this.

>>156855816
>trains
Shit taste, ship is better transportation vehicle
>clouds
Only daydreamer likes cloud
>space
Doesnt exist, human havent been able to go beyond Van Allen belt

>>156879676
>space
>Doesnt exist, human havent been able to go beyond Van Allen belt
How can you claim space doesn't exist if you will then admit the existence of the Van Allen belts?

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>>156865783

Is this the same artist that did the comic about the mirror?

なんでもないや、やっぱりなんでもないや

>>156879676

You must be fun at parties.

>>156855816
He needs to get over his oneitis.

>>156879258
>I can't Kimi your Na wa with this.
>Winks at camera
>Full House theme plays and credits roll

Really, Shinkai?

>>156879763
Yeah, i have mental disorder
>>156882219
I dont do party

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>>156879258

>Finally after all these years, I have become.....your name. *credits roll*

Seriously Shinkai?

dubs decide there will be a sequel

>>156884628
I love this movie but it does not need a sequel.

in b4 12 episode series

>>156855816
Im familiarized more with the bus, i love clouds too and like to see the moon in the night.
Japan is a shit country i recommend him to travel desu.