Dragon Ball Super

Dainanauchu is superior

Is it just me or is DBZ abridged waaaay better than it should be?

Like yeah you'd expect it to be funny but it's way smarter and more quotable than you'd think - I almost feel like if those guys were working in a big studio they'd be really successful.

The thing I usually have against parodies is that they can take away some of the magic from the og show and yet with Abridged I feel it actually just adds to the franchise.

Sure you can say it's much easier to add/parody a show than create one from scratch, which is true. But all the call backs, endlessly quotable lines and a sense of characterisation thats so hilariously spot on, it's arguably way more consistent than the show - which again is the opposite to what you'd expect, as parodies often just make the characters crazy versions of their former selves for a cheap laugh.

Even just little things like trunks suddenly saying 'crap baskets' after hearing gohan say it for so long, isn't just funny but adds a real sense of weight and plausibility to the world of the show.

Anyone else think this is kinda crazy? Like If I feel the need to get a DB fix I usually end up opting for abridged over Kai and noticing extra little inside jokes or even have my attention drawn to details in the relationships of certain characters from the og show.

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>when you guys think caulifa and fembroly are different characters

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Why do so many people think that these are 2 different characters? Literally the only differences are the hair and clothes. It's obvious that Cabba's going to recruit her, then clean her and give her some new clothes before the ToP

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She replaced Videl

>>156742220
Wait till you get to SAOA, that is the only version of the show anyone should see.

>>156742264
clean her up*

>>156742264
People are confused because they seem different personality-wise, even though we've seen about 2 whole seconds of each one with no dialogue

>>156742280
I hope she gets SPOPOVICH'D

>>156742264
yeah, she will become civilized

SPOILERS RIGHT FROM DAIZENSHUU

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

toyotaro is gay

>>156742264
Because they literally did a personality change hence the left one being removed from the OP.

She's shit.

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>>156742341
Would be too good for nu-Dragon Ball.

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>>156742341
>SPOPOVICH'D

>>156742220
It was pretty good for a while but now it just feels like a joke dub rather than an actual parody. Also, the Broly movie was easily their least funny movie special.

Why are Gohan and 17 getting a lot of hype in recent episodes?

Are they gonna be relevant at the ToP?

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>hates Dragon Ball Super for power level inconsistencies and Future Trunks asspull
>praises O MY RUBBER NEN hunter x hunter and plot armor no academia

weebfags btfo

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>>156742405
Dosed

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Why are the opinions about Zamasu/Black so polarizing and dividing among the fanbase?

A lot of people either call him the best and most developed villian of DB or the worst villian of the whole franchise.

>>156742496
Who are you quoting?

>>156742570
because most of the dragon ball fanbase didn't got mentally older at all, that's why they can't love Zamasu for the amazing character/villain is

>>156742570
He got mad because he was BTFO in a sparring session.

>>156742570
He's super shallow but he has a lot of charisma. If you don't care about the latter then he's just another run of the mill villain.

>>>/b/731444444

>Gokufags trying to hijack the thread and failing miserably

>>156742570
Because unlike most dragonball villains he had a motive that kind of made sense, but then the whole thing fell apart with Black and fusion and timelines

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>>156742634

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>>156742570
the QUALITY moments took away from the tension.

>>156742617
(you)

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>>156742264
i prefer the right more because it felt more original left was just saiyan momo
>>156742280
she's the new tomboy of the series

Does anyone have that shot of Black and Zamasu's face matched up against each other when telling Trunks that everything was his fault?

>>156742658
>/b/
Please go back to your shithole.

>>156742341
>Implying she's not going to do the SPOPOVITCHing

>>156742385
The left one was never in the opening (other than a brief appearance in a group shot behind Jiren), only in the preview for the arc. They cut out the transformation in the opening, and only show her as FemBroly. They also removed Frost transforming from his first form into his third.

Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6TAtIeKM5M
Opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP10r0REaFA

>>156742570
I actually like his introduction in the manga. It really helps you understand his point of view and his road to hypocritical butchery.

But then he started fighting and the amount of shit that is going on is simply retarded. Immortality, time travels, different universes, suddenly SSB transformation not being taxing, fusion working differently than people thought etc.

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RUNNING OVER THE SAME OLD GROUNDS

AND WHAT HAVE WE FOUND?

THE SAME OF FEARS


WISH YOU WERE HERE......................

Zamasu ressurection arc when

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>>156742517

>>156742039
CUS IS AN EVIL MURDER LOLI ANGEL

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Post lewd angels right now or your Universe gets deleted

Zamasu and Black should have been completely separate. A rouge kai was interesting enough by itself, and evil Goku is something that 13 year olds have wanted forever. It really ended up being a fucking slop of a storyline

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>>156742849
Anon, I want you to go back to the "sob story" and read it carefully.

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>>156742341
>You think that was an insult
It was hot.

>>156742220
Its cheesy but above the voice acting and the funny writing, you can tell that they really love the series even when they are poking fun at it. That's what makes it so re watchable for me, they understand the characters and what people love about them enough that most of the jokes actually feel natural.

I think things really slowed down once they got to Perfect Cell but now that the Cell Games are really about to start I think they'll get their groove back. They have a lot of good material to work with coming up.

>>156742911
it should've been Goten... like from another reality, i dunno, maybe that one where Goku and Chi-Chi died but someone else raised him, maybe a kaioshin, hell, even Zamasu himself

it would be way better imo... even though it would be edgy as fuck it would be nice to see some development to goten

>>156742942
>whiteknighting a tripfag
Fucking kill yourself.

>>156742699
I'm still 100% certain she was not wearing a shirt in that scene.

>>156742947
Are they going to do the buu saga or stop after Cell?

>>156742967
I'm not whiteknighting him, I'm just letting you know it wasn't real.

>>156742990
Sure, slutpup

>>156742699
She's going to be all Tsundere for Cabbage isn't it?

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>>156743012

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>>156743004

>>156743012
She's going to bully him hard

>>156742942
I'm not talking about the retarded dragon ball fake story that he made up to "troll" people you incompetent fool, i'm talking about this
>>156619865

>>156743042
Look it up on an archive if you want to stop acting like a dumbass

Por favor, existe algum tupiniquim nesse tópico?

>>156742988
I remember something about them saying they wouldn't do Buu years ago, but I can see that changing.

>>156743094
Fuck off pedro and hang yourself

>>156743098
At the rate they're going, they'll never GET to Buu.

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>>156742972
>female saiyans likes to fight an eat so much that they don't care whether their naked or not
>would use you as a breeding slave to produce strong hybrids
they are what we wish real life women should be.
but we live there

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Where are these waifufags coming from?

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>>156743171
I don't know, but Bulma is and will always be THE waifu

>>156743171
There are all of four females in the whole series, a new lady character is a big deal

>>156743171
From /a/

>>156743148
I would breed with a Female from Vegeta but knowing them they'll test your strength with their tails, Your anal strength that is.

>>156742264
>>156742280
How old is she?

>>156743148
Have you seen cute, young female power lifters? Also I'm sure there is a decent percentage of cute women that participate in combat sports.

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>>156743216
both of the new girl characters are interesting

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>>156742826
>Zamasu ressurection arc when
How can he be revived if his soul was erased too?

>>156743280
Same age as Cabba, most likely. Good luck figuring that out

>>156743280
Old enough
Saiyans stay young till their 80.

>>156743134
You're probably right. They're hitting their ten year mark next year, will they even be done with Cell?

>>156742264
>What do you mean "bare chested fighting isn't appropriate?"

>>156743348
So I can fuck a Saiyan GILF and it'd still feel like I'm fucking a 20 year old?

>>156743348
>>156743280
probably same age as cabba, so like 15-20 years younger than vegeta/goku? i feel like they're both fairly young

>>156743339
>>156743348
Was wondering cause she looks small for a saiyan like cabba and vegeta brother. Really disliking how they are making them smaller.

>>156743377
Is she here as a refugee? Sure, senzus dude.
Is she like 50 something from Vegeta? Probably has scars and burns all over her body.

more ripped Buu when?

>>156743324
well, he actually does exist in other timelines...
we don't know what really happened to Mirai Trunks yet, but maybe Zamasu didnt died there

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>>156743422
It's just her and Cabba. I can't tell if Cabba is supposed to be a teenager or if he's just a twink.

>>156742826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic

>>156743481
How many timelines are there again?

>>156743939
I don't know, like 5 or 6, my dude.

>>156743939
6

>>156743955
Zamasu was erased in Future Trunks'.
Erased in our timeline.
Erased in the new timeline Trunks and Mai are in.
That leaves like 2/3 timelines that Zamasu could possibly be alive in.

>>156743975
3, then.

>>156743985
Which are the timelines Zamasu could possibly be alive in?

>>156744015
Well we know there's a Zamasu that'll appear on Babari with Gowasu in 1,000 years.. so.. at least there's one.

>Goku has to use Kaioken on Namek to reach a battle power of just 180,000
>post Zenkai could stand a chance against Freeza's final form for a while
>Vegeta can match Freeza's first form which puts him at over half a million
>post Zenkai can't even touch Freeza's final form
explain this

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>>156743955
You are like a little baby

>>156744015
Cell's timeline and unknown timeline. He's gone in this timeline, his original timeline and both of Trunks' timelines.

>>156744065
What are Salagir's contributions to Multiverse? Basically just writing the story and letting other people do the rest?

Reminder that vegeta is the biggest jobber next to gohan and frieza

>>156744208
at least frieza and vegeta had successful careers as intergalactic murderers before they met Goku, Gohan has been jobbing from day one and we've been watching the whole time

>>156744076
dumbass emperor

>>156744460
>Gine offering to be the mother figure Cauli probably never had

My heart

>>156742570
Because DB fanbase is full of manchildren who don't understand that their personal feelings toward a character=/= the quality of his characterization.

Zamasu/Black is a great villian by every measure, though this is only true for the anime which fleshed out his motivations far better than in the manga.

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>>156744460
>>156744477
They look like sisters.

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Reminder Caulifla best grill

>>156742570
People who think Zamasu is a good villain are mostly caught up by him have a interesting motivation and ignore that the actual execution of his character is utter shit, wasting a potentially good idea and making him no different from any other villains.

>>156744507
>Because DB fanbase is full of manchildren
The irony

>>156744619
I think the people who think Zamasu is a bad villain obsess over the execution of his character too much. This is still just Dragon Ball, for Dragon Ball's standards his actual execution was fine enough.

>>156744576
She would be better with a tail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh1Wc4yc2sc

>>156744744
>obsess over the execution of his character too much
wew lad

>>156743526
are those saiyans?

>>156744897
yess

why does toriyama not storyboard DB Super?

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>>156745068
Because he's lazy. He does a bit for the manga tho when he feels like it.

>>156745142
>He does a bit for the manga
Just gags.

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What's 17's face trying to convey?

>>156745428
He is catholic

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>>156745428
It's Super's version of the Tien face.

>>156744744
if your response to someone saying Zamasu is a bad villain is you're just thinking too much! aren't you basically admitting the other person is right in thinking Zamasu is bad?

Toppo is the villain with white hair

>>156745626
>>156745564
>>156745585
What the fuck is wrong with their faces?

>>156745626
>>156745606
>>156745585
no one cares

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>>156745626
>Base Majin Vegeta

>>156745690
Comic-Con exclusive.

>>156745584
The art in this arc was laughably bad. Was it fixed in the blu-rays?

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>>156745626

BIG GREEN DED?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbLRPSE-iU

>>156745753
no they probably already have a remake like DBZ kai scheduled after their done with super to maximize shekels.

>>156744053
Power levels were always handled questionably

Which is why you're better off ignoring them.

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>>156742220
DBZA is superior.

>>156746826
>.gif

>>156745753
They made Bulma's boobs smaller in the Blu-rays

>>156747060
Finally, a watchable version of Resurrection F.

>>156745167
Toriyama is a gag manga artist you autist

>>156744801
You tailfags always say this and I know exactly why you say this. It's because you get off on the idea of squeezing a Saiyanfu's tail because it's their weak point. Well guess what, fucking Goku could figure out how to keep it strong. Only a chump Saiyan like Raditz would go around with a weak-ass tail like that. Any proper Saiyan would be able to break your fucking wrist with their tail.

You just self-insert as Raditz! Admit it!

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>>156742899

*blocks your path*

what do?

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>>156744065
I don't like these timelines! Take them back!

>>156747225
no matter how hard I fight it I will still be boner for Z-sword kaioken Videl

>>156742220
Isn't this just a copypasta?

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>>156747225
>those faces

>>156745428
>Oh fuck. I just sharted.

>>156743053
Monkey haircut/10

>>156745142
>>156745068
>https://pastebin.com/K7FGtFfp
>Q: I've heard Toriyama has a direct role into your work, right?

>T: Not only mine: he supervises every storyboard related to the Dragon Ball universe.

>>156744053
Even Toriyama has stated that he wished he hadn't let SS1 and Kaoiken multiply as high as they did. Just accept that the number gaps were never meant to be that significant

B O O G I E
A
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Why didn't Goku ever try blue in GT?
Why were Kibito and Shin still fused in GT?
Why didn't they try to use the Super Dragon Balls?
Why didn't Zen-Oh just kill Baby?

>>156748392
Because GT isn't canon

>>156744053
Kaioken effectively replaced gokus powering up.
His actual max at the time was 990k.
Vegetas max pre zenkai was likely a bit weaker than frieza. Frieza always transformed when anyone got any close to his power.
So vegeta was about half gokus power, pre zenkai.
Probably around 500.
Goku managed to boost up a bit higher than vegeta to be sure, but vegeta mostly just gave up when faced with friezas power. Goku still ended up using kaioken x 10 all the time, just to match frieza at roughly 20%. So if vegeta was still half as powerful, he'd STILL be largely crushed by frieza.
Remember, when goku arrived, vegeta comments on how goku powers up at the instant of attack. He was never not using kaioken in those fights.

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>>156743365
>donate to our patreon guys! It'll let us quit our day jobs and focus even more on DBZA!
>release at even a slower rate than ever before

>>156742899
aren't they sisters?

>>156748545
Then why are we getting Fem-Broly?

>>156747957
>>156748608
Even before taking Kaioken and SS into account, Goku was far stronger than Vegeta for no given reason. Maybe the healing chamber helped. I don't know.

>>156748704
She's a Super Sand Lesbian.

>>156748852
Goku had more zenkais than vegeta did, that's why.
Korin gave him 7 senzus
He used one to recover from vegetas fight (matching vegetas recovery) then another three while training in space (matching vegetas post zarbon zenkai, his post-ginyu zenkai, and vegetas frieza fight zenkai, effectively matching him)
Then he had one post ginyu, putting him well past vegeta (plus his five day intense space training)

>>156748392
GT is the timeline where Beerus got his pudding, Pilaf wished himself to be old again and Shenron turned him into a geezer, and Zeno never saw the Tournament so there wouldn't be a Tournament of Power.

U6's Saiyans joined forces with the Pride Troopers to prove to Zeno that the universes were not worth deleting, Zamasu went to the catgirl planet and decided not all ningen are bad and spends most of his time shitposting on godtube, and Beerus slept through GT.

For the best, really. Because even Frost is stronger than SSJ4 Goku.

>>156744015
Well, whis time travels without creating new timelines, so the future trunks timeline is basically rescued by him going back in tine and having beerus kill off zamasu there.
Then black, who comes from the original dbsuper timeline is dead.
Then zamasu in our dbsuper timeline is dead.
So that leaves cell's zamasu, and the timeline future trunks travelled to to warn about the androids.
But, seeing how those zamasus wouldn't have fully turned evil, since they didn't have goku or other zamasus to influence them or tell them about super dragon balls, they won't go a murdering.

>Freeza
> - First form = 530,000
> - Second form = 1,060,000
> - Third form = 2,120,000
> - Final form = 120,000,000

>Vegeta
> - Base = 2,500,000

>Goku
> - Base = 3,000,000
> - Kaioken x2 = 6,000,000
> - Kaioken x3 = 9,000,000
> - Kaioken x4 = 12,000,000
> - Kaioken x10 = 30,000,000
> - Kaioken x20 = 60,000,000
> - Super Saiyan = 150,000,000


Namek is fucking retarded

>>156748704
Broly is not canon.

>>156749062
>Vegeta
> - Base = 2,500,000
Vegeta was pissing himself after Frieza transformed once though.

>>156749062
Only one of those numbers are real
Databooks were specifically called out by toriyama for being inaccurate.

>>156749122
Dende zenkai

>>156748619
Even worse
>Donate to our patreon so we can do this full time
>Okay now we are going to start doing Lets plays and twitch streaming.

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>>156745585
Im a woodpecker
cept with dirt

>>156749062
None of those numbers are accurate except the 530,000.
>Second form 1,060,000
Frieza fucking said it was only 1 million, and no power level number was mentioned ever again after that 1 million.

How is it that Toyo manages to draw characters poorly, slower and worse than Tori despite tracing and having assistants?

>>156749062
>El Powero Levelos

GHAT DAMMIT PEDRO, YOU'RE OFF THE FORCE

>>156749857
why do you faggots always have to shit up the thread spamming how butthurt you are about power levels

kys autist

>>156748852
>no given reason
Goku was becoming a Super Saiyan, that's why.

>>156749870
Calm down and try looking up the definition of 'autist' before calling someone it, Jose Gonzales.

Toriyama discarded power levels and you need to let it go along with the belief GT is canon.

>>156749796
>Frieza fucking said it was only 1 million
Too bad that's wrong burger boy

>>156749989
Second Form Frieza: My power level is 1 million

How is that wrong Yurocuck?

>>156750021
Jaja estupido gringo.

que es la problema con tu cabesa?

GT ES MUY MEJOR!!!!!

>>156750021
He's BEYOND 1 million my dear burger

>someone talk about some feature of the series
>"FUCKING PEDRO GT ISN'T CANON"

That's why nobody takes amerifats seriously.

>>156750191
si, que estupido son los amerifats. mcdonalds por cabezas de mierda. Power levels son canon

>>156750071
>eurospiccuck

I don't speak arab rape baby

>>156750435
no tu no puedo hablar con muchos mcchickens en tu boca Bola gorda de la kentucky-fried manteca.

>>156750191
It's mostly Canadians spamming pedro. Cadacucks are subhuman and ruin every DB thread they infest.

>>156749126
Source on that? Maybe I can finally shut up all the faggots who keep calling Tenshinhan non-human.

>>156750678
The day is going fine until A FUCKING LEAF falls on the line

>>156742264
They're opposites from different universes, you're all retarded, when the time comes you'll all eat my shorts

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>>156745585
Saving this

Can someone sell me on the manga without the only compliment being "it's written better than the anime"? If that's it's only praise, it's not a high one. Can we just admit DBS is awful period and it's only saving grace is dumb nonsensical fights?

And it didn't even have good fights until the Goku Black arc.

>>156751633
>Can someone sell me on the manga without the only compliment being "it's written better than the anime"?
No, just read it and figure it out yourself or fuck off.

>>156751633
>>156751678
It's not great at all, it's even worse than the anime, don't listen to the angry toyocucks.

>>156742220

It's worse now than it was on Namek. They've made it about injokes now. It's awful.

>>156742448
>>156742947
>>156746826
Die r/dbz.

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What the fuck is wrong with this "art"?

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>>156751832
>The state of modern Toei

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Do you remember Yamcha's Super Saiyan Black form guys?

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Why are all the fucking youtubers saying DBS isn't ending?

Someone who was literally at the convention where Toyo was at said that he said it was going to end at the Peaceful World Saga.

>>156742405
It's funny how Videl is okay with this when she should get triggered as fuck just by looking at Spopovich.

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tracetaro

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>>156752151
>watching db youtubers

>>156752163
Nice meme ebin

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>>156752151
>DBS will lead with DB ending (as it was expected)
>therefore, DBS will end soon

>>156752195
>replying to bait
Just ignore it.

>>156752211
That's what the youtubers are saying.

Someone who was AT the convention said otherwise and to be honest I rather listen to the latter.

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>>156752195
sure toyofag

>>156752257
That's an epic one too xD

>>156751832
Black and Zamasu look terrible.

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>>156752921
It's like the anime!

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>>156752921
>>156752994

>>156751832
I wonder if zamasu looking like a smug pepe was intentional

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Just a reminder that as soon as this arc is over Caulifla is going to turn into a boring generic demure waifu, just like every tomboy in Toriyama's shitfest.

Nan, King chappa or Man-wolf should have taken Master Roshi's place imho

>>156753394
damn it not again

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>DB Heroes manga
>Toriyama's chosen successor art

>Super DB Heroes manga
>pic related

>>156752276
>the only way a toyopaco can answer is babbling.

I wonder if we'll get some screenshots from 89 today?

>>156753732
That design is shit.

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>>156753732

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>>156754088
My favorite.

>>156754113
>that Vegeta

JUST

>>156753732
This is some seriously autistic and poorly-drawn garbage, get it the fuck out

Why does Minus exist? It fucked up the canon and made Goku and his family into special snowflakes who were just "omg so misunderstood". Saiyans are supposed to be natural dickheads. Goku and Vegeta were only good guys because they became influenced by the inherent "goodness" of humans. It makes no sense for Bardock and Gine to be super secret special kind-hearted Saiyans for no reason.

Fuck Minus and fuck anyone who thinks it's good

>>156754113
Why the fuck does vegeta have baby hands holy shit

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>>156754063

>>156754280
Their feet look pretty small too.

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>>156754113
your favorite

>>156754113
By any chance are you Canadian because Canadians tend to have shit taste and are also the cancer of these threads

>>156754271
It didn't fuck anything up. The Bardock Special was canon but only because Bardock made an appearance in the manga. The actual history of him had never been revealed by Toriyama until Minus.

Don't like it? Fine. But don't pretend it changed anything because it didn't

>>156754366
It changed the overall brutal history of the Saiyans, it literally makes no sense for someone like Gine to exist. Minus is a retarded piece of shit.

>>156754271
>Why does Minus exist?
Because Toriyama wants, you can stay mad.

>It fucked up the canon
Nope.

>special snowflake
No that's the TV special with edgy Bardock who become as strong as the elite and got powers to see the fucking future.

>Bardock was a super secret special kind-hearted saiyan because he cared about his son and waifu, who cares if his job was destroy entire civilizations for money
Drink bleach

So, what exactly *is* Majiin Buu anyway?

A demon? A god? A primordial being? Do other universes have Buu's, too? What was his purpose, how and why was he created?

I need answers damn it. I liked it better when Buu was just something Bibidi created

>>156754390
You answered yourself.

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>>156754364
No, but it seems like there's a 100% chance that you are retarded.

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>>156754333
>png
>Press [F11] to exit full screen

fixed it for you

>>156754411
Um, the only sentence that wasn't a question was the last one explaining how before Toriyama opened his fat mouth, Buu was just a creation of Bibidi.

Everything else is a question. You can't answer a question with a question.

>>156754390
A primordial genie from the outer space who existed since the beginning of times and absorbed the evilness of mortal's hearts, according to Toriyama.

So yes, Zamasu was right and Boo is the living proof.

No
fuck off with your reddit-tier humor garbage

>>156754430
such a shitty liar

>>156754455
>Zamasu was right
About mortals being shit? As a mortal, I was well aware of this

>>156754390
>I liked it better when Buu was just something Bibidi created
That's pretty much it, isn't it? It's not something he found, it's not a demon since those have their own realm with Dabura as king, he isn't a god. Just a pretty damn powerful rubber-like savage being created by evil wizard.

>>156754455
So does that mean every universe has a Buu? And if he is indeed some sort of primal being, what is his purpose? If he absorbed the evil in mortals' hearts, what was his goal?

@156754431
I want to "fix" your face with a bat.

>>156754387
All those words and not a single argument.
>muh Toriyama is god
He could take a dump on a platter and you'd still slurp it down like the cock addict you are and then autistically scream at anyone who criticized it as being a literal pile of excrement.

>>156754503
>it's not something he found
Actually, it is. In the manga and anime, the Kai's speculate that Bibidi created him, but in interviews Toriyama has said that isn't true and Buu has been around since the beginning of time.

>>156754562
Well that sucks.

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>>156754088
>those huge ass hands

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>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY TORIYAMA PROVED ME WRONG FUCK MINUS AND FUCK ANYONE WHO THINKS IT'S GOOD, IT LITERALLY MAKES NO SENSE FOR SOMEONE LIKE GINE TO EXIST I SWEAR MY HEADCANON SAYS SO

>>156754380
Yeah, because y'know how every one in a race behaves utterly the same way with no difference in personality? That's why every human in the series is exactly the same

Oh wait

By the by, dumbass, Super stated there were at least Six other kind-hearted Saiyans.

>>156754562
nothing that senile old fuck says anymore is canon. the original manga is canon and nothing else.

>>156754598
fucking tell me about it, it needlessly complicates things

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>>156754602
Why so angry,cuck? Literally nobody likes Minus or Gine but a few pathetic waifufaggots like you.

>>156754604
>Super stated
It doesn't matter what Super stated, it's not canon.

>>156754602
Cry more, sheep.

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>anything after buu
>being canon
>anything not in the Z manga
>canon

>>156754471
mean to quote >>156742220

>>156754534
>So does that mean every universe has a Buu?
I don't think so. But would make sense for Universe 6

>And if he is indeed some sort of primal being, what is his purpose?
Who knows
Ask Toriyama

>If he absorbed the evil in mortals' hearts, what was his goal?
He wanted to do evil things because he absorbed evilness, that's all, it's just a reflection of mortals' behavior. In a pure hearted universe he would probably be a good creature with good intentions.

>>156754604
>Super stated there were at least Six other kind-hearted Saiyans
The ritual is the dumbest shit in the series, really.

>>156754600
It just looks like a chinese knock-off

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>>156745585

>>156754677
>that image
>I never read/watched DB

>>156754677
>Z
>manga

Opinion discarded

>>156754547
You must be great with plastic surgery to be able to do such a procedure with a bat.

>>156754449
What Tori says isn't canon unless it's represented in drawing form.

Sounds baity (it is) but what I mean is that all the things he's said in interviews are never acknowleged in the manga or anime, like 18 or 17 having names but never using them.

>>156754788
Get the fuck out you autistic piece of attention whoring shit

>>156754725
I see, he sacrifices chromosomes in exchange of power!

>>156754810
Thanks for giving me attention. You didn't have to, but you chose to anyway.

>>156754830
Drink bleach, Cuckpup

>>156754847
you got fucking smugged

>>156754634
I liked it.

Gine a moe

>>156754869
Is gargling some fag's cock on the Internet like a whiteknight cuck all you do?

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>>156754799
>I don't consider this is canon if the 60 years old author never draw it

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>>156754799
>being this much of a fucking retard

>>156754810
>>156754847
>>156754894
you got fucking smugged

>>156754604
>By the by, dumbass, Super stated there were at least Six other kind-hearted Saiyans.
Actually, the legend of the original Super Saiyan God is only in the movie. In Super, Shenron just tells them how to make one according to Namekian legend and runs away.

>>156754765
you know what I meant greasy superfag

>>156754637
>Super
>Not canon

The SSG shit came right from Toriyama's mouth you fucking inbred. Super is canon whether you like it or not. How can you say Super isn't canon and then get upset at Minus? Retard

>>156754951
As I understand it the movie is more canon than the anime anyway so my point stands

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>>156754931
How do you function with so much cock up your ass?

>>156754699
>I don't think so. But would make sense for Universe 6
So then, why? Why only U6 if Buu is some sort staple of creation?

This is why it worked better when Buu was just a thing a dude made

>>156754962
>getting upset at something=it's canon
How the fuck do you even post here at all when it's obvious that you lack even basic reading comprehension?

And no, Super isn't canon. BoG and RoF are, but Super is not.

>>156746826
>being this fucking autistic

>>156754799
I would tell you how dumb as fuck that sounds but two anons beat me to it

ah fuck it

That's dumb as fuck

>>156755014
>Why only U6
Because U6 is U7's twin universe
We are only theorizing anyway

>it worked better when Buu was just a thing a dude made
Agree but it's way boring

Majin Buu being a primordial being is better than being Bibidi's creation, after all Babidi is just as good as Bibidi so why not create more Buus?

Instead he just knows how to awake/sleep him and that's why Bibidi kept Buu instead of making another more obedient one.

>>156755024
Those fucktarded movies aren't canon either.

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>>156755024
>it doesnt count because it's in super
>even though its the same arc as BoG

Oh my fucking god are you this dense? Another anon explained the legend is from the movie, and not super, anyway, you fucking retard

>getting upset at something=it's canon
Not at all what I said. The anon, which I'm assuming is you, mentioned how they were upset Minus "fucked everything up" which would imply they take it as canon. So why the fuck would you consider Minus canon but not Super?

>BoG and RoF are, but Super is not
I was specifcally referring to the fucking arcs that ARE the movies you god damn idiot holy shit


There are a lot pretentious idiots on this fucking board, especially in these threads, but you take the fucking cake

You guys think we'll get a Tetsuo and Kaneda kind of relationship between Caulifla and Brolyna if they really are different characters?

Caulifla hates the shit out of Brolyna but looks up to her at the same time or something

>>156755063
Maybe U6 Kaioshins took care of Bibidi's race before they learned to summon Majin Buu, and Buu counterpart is there sleeping.

Or Hit took care of him.

Or we get a Buu on U6 team for the tournament.

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>>156754962
Super Saiyan 4 came right from Toriyama's mouth too.

>>156755073
Yeah, but it could be easily head-canonned that Buu was a one-time only creation. Perhaps it took a certain sacrifice Bibidi is unwilling or simply can't make again. Or perhaps he simply lacks the resources

>>156755151
>or Hit took care of him
Accurate. New headcanon.

>>156755157
It wasn't, it was created by Nakatsuru.

>>156755151
Its name is Fuwa you ningen

>>156754799
>all the things he's said in interviews are never acknowleged in the manga or anime
Like 17 having a wife, a biological kid and two adopted kids?

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>>156755073
>>156755168
>caring about the plot of a lazy gag manga arc that spawned GT

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>>156755024
Good job dodging his argument. Super's outline came from the creator, just like the movie, making it canon.
>>156755125
And you're even more retarded than him

>>156755157
Uh, no it didn't. He didn't even design it. He merely gave it the go-ahead because he made peace with the fact the anime is it's own thing decades ago

>>156755125
They were written and supervised directly by Toriyama. Cry over them all you want, but they're canon.

>>156755137
>Oh my fucking god are you this dense?
Are you? The movies are canon because Toriyama wrote them. There is no evidence he wrote the retellings, therefore they do not supersede the canon stories of the films.

>Minus "fucked everything up" which would imply they take it as canon
Being non-canon does not make it any less atrociously written or pointless. It was clearly created only to renew interest in the series, and instead of creating something entirely new (a la Super, however terrible and non-canon it may be) they rehashed a story that was already fine--and actually made it worse.

>I was specifcally referring to the fucking arcs that ARE the movies
That's cute, considering you were referring to Super and the movies as being one in the same, which is not the case at all. Surely you understand that, or are you too stupid?

>There are a lot pretentious idiots on this fucking board
Calling someone pretentious because they're smarter than you is silly, anon.

>>156755232
>spawned GT
that's so barely truthful. Buu Saga was easily the weakest but it didn't somehow launch GT into existence. GT would've happened if Z ended on Cell, too.

>caring about the plot of a lazy gag manga so much you discuss on an image board
you are one of us too anon

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>>156755257
He did like the design though

>>156755239
See
>>156755308
and cry about getting BTFO.

Does it bother anyone else that everyone is training with flying even though in the tournament they can't fly? Don't you think they should work some ground game into it ?

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>>156755308
>this post
I can't believe people like you actually exist

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>>156755308
>oversaw by toriyama
idgaf
they're about as canon as every other garbage dbz movie

>>156755335
I literally just said he gave it the go-ahead. can you read

>>156755364
Not an argument, try again next time.

>>156755369
WRITTEN by Toriyama, you fucking idiot. Not liking something doesn't make it non-canon.

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>REEEEEE NON CANON MUH CANON REEEEEEE

shut the fuck up you autists jesus every day with this garbage

>>156742570
The ones who call them the worst are ningens, it's obvious

>>156755308
> There is no evidence he wrote the retellings
Holy shit

Yes there is anon. Watch the movie. Now watch the first arc of Super. Wow, did you notice they were basically the same thing? That's because they were both based on the notes by Toriyama

> therefore they do not supersede the canon stories of the films.
I never fucking said they did

>Being non-canon does not make it any less atrociously written or pointless. It was clearly created only to renew interest in the series, and instead of creating something entirely new (a la Super, however terrible and non-canon it may be) they rehashed a story that was already fine--and actually made it worse.

That's great, anon. What the fuck is your point? If you're taking Minus as canon, there is no reason why you shouldn't also be taking Super, at least the manga, as such as well.

>surely you understand that, or are you too stupid?
You are such a prententious prick. Obviously I don't think they are literally the same thing you fucking pleb, but they are dramatically similar. You could watch the movie or the first arc of Super, it's still the same basic plot outline regardless.

>Super and the movies as being one in the same
The first two arcs are the two movies is what I said, because they are literally the first two movies, extended with some minor differences. That's the truth.

>>156755520
>That's because they were both based on the notes by Toriyama
Okay, I know that you are quite unintelligent, but let me spell it out for you in a way even a complete retard could understand: TORIYAMA WROTE THE MOVIES. The original movies, BoG and RoF, he wrote them. Obviously when Super retold them to pad out the length of the show they were going BASED OFF THE ORIGINAL MOVIES THAT TORIYAMA WROTE. Is that clear enough for you, you fucking simpleton?

>I never fucking said they did
You fucking lie.

>If you're taking Minus as canon
Again with the lack of reading comprehension. I never said Minus is canon.

>it's still the same basic plot outline regardless.
Yes, but only one is canon: The one written entirely by Toriyama.

Thanks for the (You)s

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So how strong will the dosage be to make Gohan be enough to impress Goku?

Well it was fun BTFO'ing the fool who thinks Super, and particularly the movie retellings, are canon, but my MENSA group has a meeting today and I have to go. Thanks for the fun.

I swear to god that I hate how bodies looks on Xenoverse but the worst about it is that Vegetto, the fucking strongest warrior of the entire original manga (and a Beerus-tier fighter in DBS) looks specially shitty in the game
I can't even see my favorite fighter of the franchise in the game because looks crappy as fuck

>>156756007
I how how bulky base Goku looks.

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>>156755369
Golden Freeza design is amazing, just building on what already was perfection.

Meanwhile some faggots wanted something more like this...

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>>156755966
>Well it was fun BTFO'ing the fool who thinks Super, and particularly the movie retellings, are canon, but my MENSA group has a meeting today and I have to go. Thanks for the fun.

>>156756122
I liked Cooler's final form. Frost should do it.

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So why did Piccolo and Gohan train for a day in real time instead of a year in the time chamber?

>>156756217
Because Vegeta blew it up.

>>156756217
Why does 17 have eyeliner?

>>156756256
It's shown rebuilt though.

>>156756284
he blew it up again

>>156756284
Why not? it makes you more pretty.

>>156756326
nope

also Whis's staff can create a time chamber

>>156756326
that was meant for >>156756305

>>156756363
because it confuses my benis

>>156756048
You how how

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>>156755734
enough

>>156756597
Ha you all know Goku and Piccolo double teamed on Gohan back when training for the androids.

>>156756284
Why does a fucking artificial human have an aura?

because super I shit that's why

>>156756122
>some faggots wanted this
I wanted Freeze to fucking stay dead, without any Deviantart OC recolor transformations.

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>>156756663
>Goku and Piccolo double teamed on Gohan

>>156756686
>super I shit

>>156756686
He trained and now has an aura.

>t. Toriyama