Remember how I'm a fake hero created to be a rival to Miyamoto

>>156689268
The chick version is a slider from a different timeline.

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I hate Grand Order so much.

>>156689268
That's not the real Musashi, she's from a different dimension

>>156689268
I still like this guy the most. He's just some random swordsman that's just really skilled and fight on-par with other swordsmen without a NP and fucked stats.

>>156689268
What has fate become?

>>156691112
>fucked stats
STR: C
END: E
AGI: A+
MAG: E
LUCK: A
NP: -

He was fine in pure stats. Nothing great but not low-end like Archer or fucked like Avenger

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>>156691188
Shitty?

will Miyamoto Musashi bully him by standing just far enough away from his gate that he can't go fight her?

>>156691112
>>156691611
Indeed. He has the most important stat of all, Luck A.

>>156691152
I wonder if she is skilled enough to hold two hard and long objects at once

Like Aliceteria in Re: Creators this is another character who was defeated by a man with a stick.

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>>156690685
Same

>>156689268
>Expecting a major swordsman to not also be genderswapped
Woooooooow

Where are the doujins of Musashi and Kojiro "sword fighting"?

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I love Grand Order so much.

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So is Fate ever going to get another entry in the same vein as Stay Night and Zero?

>>156694435
Hollow Atraxia?

>>156694495
It's not really the same.

>>156694435
I don't think so.

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>>156694172
Same

>>156694435
Nowadays, if i even mention Fate in a serious conversation, i'd just made myself look like an idiot. Thanks, Type Moon.

>>156694923
An old man made of penis worms was a major antagonist.

>>156689268
/a/ seems to hate GO, what's going on my friends

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>>156689268
Sasaki was fucking awesome. My favorite hero from the original franchise.

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>>156694997
Everyone who likes it is on /fgog/

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>>156694535
But it was still pretty good.

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>>156694973
Only in one route, and Nasu made it work; that scene where he eats that person in the park his creepy.

>>156694435
Strange Fake?

>>156695238
How exactly was she planning to have the babies of a Heroic Spirit in the middle of a time loop?

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>>156695705
She is a literal, living breathing onahole whose only purpose in existence is to let guys stick their dicks in her when she isn't looking for demons.

>>156694435
>putting Zero on the same level as SN with no mention of HA
Fuck off Zerobaby.

>>156695616
Correct answer.

>>156695938
She only has sex with demons and people possessed by demons.

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>>156697200
She explains that her duty is to allow sinners to vent themselves on her body, so that they won't go out and commit crimes against other people. This includes demons, but also includes normal people as well.

>>156691657
You mean it wasn't already?

What was Nasu's best work?
What was the worst?

>>156689268
The Miyamoto Musashi in FGO isn't the real one. She's from another dimension like Arthur (Male) is.

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>>156694172
I guess it's okay

Most people that are saying FGO is bad haven't read FGO at all. Sure, the first few Orders were mediocre but America up to Solomon was amazing.

>>156694435
As in Urban Fantasy instead of large scale fantasy? Strange Fake maybe Fragments.

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>>156700217
That's already fairly widely agreed upon. I can't think of anyone who would *seriously* complain about the last chapter of 'the first part' of Grand Order.

>>156700217
I hate FGO not because it's bad, I hate it because as long as FGO prints money I will never see something new from Nasu that's similar to Tsukihime or Kara no Kyoukai again.

Grand Order ruined Fate forever

Now just wait till they make Tsukihime/Grand Order

>>156694435
I honestly wouldn't mind a true route or Illya route.

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>>156689268

>>156700464
How did stoop kid ever go to the bathroom?

>>156690685
Some things are better left to the imagination.
Demeaning the original work by turning every servant into a "it was a girl all along" copy or just taking a shit all over the legend isn't what I wanted to happen.

>>156700550
>Demeaning the original work
That's not how shit works. Even the most retarded literary critics wouldn't argue a point like that.

>>156700550
>what I want
they don't care what you want

>>156694535
The night portion is still Nasu as fuck though. The ending conversation with Bazette and Angra is also pretty good.

>>156700550
>the author isn't allowed to write more of a certain work because I want to leave things to my imagination

>>156700217
Most people who hate FGO hate what it's done to the Fate franchise and to Type-Moon in general rather than just hating it because it's not all that great of a work.

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Reminder that English FGO is launching this summer.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-16/aniplex-reveals-more-details-about-fate-grand-order-game-release-in-u.s-canada/.114901

>>156701622
How does this actually play? Is it just some standard gacha shit or is there more to it?

>>156701622
>secondaries ruining fate even more

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>>156701622
>Meanwhile in Japan

https://youtu.be/JfHNn9K2WEE

>>156701730
Gameplay is okay for mobile and they kinda try to make characters unique, but if you want any 3*+ character, get lucky, or reroll, because of how gated the gacha is.

>>156689268
Coolest attack out of any of the servants.

>>156701867
And by any I don't mean event rewards, or starter, I mean gacha that has almost all of them

>>156701867
I really enjoy gacha games when they get consolized ports which make the rates actually pretty decent and playable. Too bad this happens rarely.

>>156689268
It could have been worse. It could have been another saberclone.

>>156701978
Even if they get better, they'll still be gated. You need the right rarity, avoid equipment, get the right class and then get the character you want, all at once

The savior of france? He may have shitty stats, but he kills all the flying sparrows of france

After all these years Fatefags finally got a taste of what it's been like being a Tsukihimefag.

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>>156689268
Is female type-moon Miyamoto Musashi still a filthy cheater?

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>>156701896
Ozzy is better, if only he would just shut up.

>>156701867
Why are nips so predisposed to developing gambling addictions?

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>>156701730
It's turn-based. You enter combat with a team of 6 servants (5 of your own and one support), and 3 can be on the field at a time. There are 3 type of attack cards: Buster (red), which does the most damage but doesn't charge NP; Arts (blue) which does medium damage and charges NP; and Quick (green), which does the least damage but generates crit stars for your next turn. Each servant has a fixed deck of 5 attack cards (e.g., BBAAQ, BAQQQ, etc) and the three servants on the field have their decks shuffled together. You draw 5 cards each turn for 3 turns, then the deck reshuffles.

Chaining three Buster cards gives more damage. Chaining three Arts cards gives the servants 20% NP charge. Chaining three Quick cards gives 10 crit stars. Chaining three cards from the same servant gives them an extra attack.

Critical stars are semi-randomly distributed among the cards in your hand each turn. Each star gives 10% chance for the attack to deal double damage. Some classes have more star weight and their cards will tend to attract more stars (e.g. Riders), while some have low star weight (Berserkers).

The servant classes form a few rock-paper-scissors triangles, where the advantaged class deals double damage and receives half damage.
Saber > Lancer > Archer > Saber
Rider > Caster > Assassin > Rider
Avenger > Ruler > Moon Cancer > Avenger

Berserker deals 1.5x damage to everything, and takes double damage from everything. Ruler takes half damage from everything except Avenger and Berserker. Shielder (your starter servant) is neutral to everything including Berserker.

There are also servant skills, equips, master skills, etc. So yeah, there's an initial learning curve. Check Kairosity's guide, the /fgog/ pastebins, and Cirnopedia.

>>156702812
I think I will stay with Battle Cats after all.

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>>156702812
Forgot to mention NP chaining can boost their effects. And here's a screenshot with crit star percentages.

>>156703055
>Santa alter
wew lad

>>156702812
>Moon Cancer
What/who does that refer to? Saver?

>>156703203
The BBs.

>>156689268
Fucking how? Miyamoto Musashi literally DREW HIMSELF >>156691152

>>156690685
Me too. It's fucking disgusting, what a horrible addition to the series.

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>>156703203
BB. It was just added the other day for the CCC event, along with Alter Egos.

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>>156702812
>>156703302
Class chart.

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>>156703233
>searched BB
>find out that "MoonCancer" is a real class
the hell is this
this is why I ain't have nothing to do with Extra

>>156703302
So how is BB explained? Surely she shouldn't feel anything for Guda and be seeking out Hakuno who her entire character is literally centered around, right? Same with Passionlip and Meltlilith.
Or are the alter egos just new waifus obsessed with Guda's transient and ephemeral genitalia like everyone else?
>>156703395
She's a mooncancer because she's the cancer of the moon cell, a cell of her own, growing and spreading outside the boundaries of normal cells.

>>156696032
>hating zero because muh secondaries

Fuck off post-2011 baby.

>>156703395
It's a class peculiar to the Moon Cell Grail war system, since she's a rogue admin AI.

>>156703302
So what's her deal? Why does she need/have a class of her own? It was questionable enough with Saver and Buddha.

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>>156703359
Holy shit so many fucking classes. I remember when I found out about Avenger and thought he was a big deal because he's not from the original seven.

>>156703503
>BB asks for your name, and when you give it, she says it sounds like a mob character's name, how pitiful. But not to worry, she gets really hyped up over pitifulness, so she'll help you out, "senpai". Mashu gets triggered by this and asks what her aims really are and why she's calling you senpai.
>BB explains it's a form of service, as motivation for you. For BB, there's only one Senpai in this universe, a sparkling prince of the stars. But she could not meet that person. After reigning as a boss, she regretted a lot of things and turned over a new leaf and corrected her fate. So you are only a stand-in for her Senpai. In place of her Senpai, you'll participate in this incident, and as her toy no. 2, she'll call you senpai.

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>>156703562
There's more rare ones that simply aren't in GO or anything, like Gatekeeper, Faker and (technically) Beast. Don't quite know how Beast is a Servant class, but apparently it is. Gatekeeper is neat, though.

>>156703562
We know there's many classes in Fate since forever.

There's even a Faker class composed entirely of body doubles. Apparently Iskander's body double was a woman.

>>156703561
As far as it matters, she's not even a Servant. She's an AI gone rogue and started assimilating fragments of the Moon Cell Automaton, weaving them into herself and herself into it. Like a cancer.
The "servant class" and "noble phantasms" and "skills" she has are all things she's given herself, like the authority of the primordial earth mother goddess (Potnia Theron), an invincible quality beyond all humans past or future including Gilgamesh (Ten Crowns), and the literal fucking cup of heaven that grants all desires (Holy Grail/Aurea Boura).

>>156703690
So Guda's just her side bitch.

>>156703503
>>156703690
As for the Alter Egos, Passionlip is currently a berserker until we can free her from BB gimp mask control. Meltlilith is being rather nice and helpful for some reason, possibly time loop fuckery.

>>156703757
>Like a cancer
Hard to argue with that, if it's in the text, I suppose. Sounds like she's just a little off from Tiamat, though. Does she actually possess divinity? Because that's kinda fucked if she does.

>>156689268
Musashi seems to be from Prototype world, the one in Koujiro's world is male.

>>156700217

I'm also enjoying the creepy as fuck CCC murder mystery event.

I've heard that Nigga EMIYA has been wrecking shit left and right in the CCC event. Is it true?

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>>156704078

>>156704030
He just showed up and hasn't fought yet, as far as I know.

>>156703916
She ate the thing that Tiamat is based off of.
Tiamat is a degraded copy of the primordial goddess. At best, Tiamat is what the original earth mother used to make life and then threw away, a mere tool of her design.

And yes, she's pretty much invincible at her full power. CCC is just a game she's playing. Or, more accurately, a show she's putting on.

>>156703509

Zero is cash as fuck.

Kerry is based hero of justice.

Wolverine is based doppelganger Kerry.

>JOGGING INTENSIFIES

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>>156704165
So what, she's like a marginally weaker Solomon? Everything I read about her seems like total horseshit that could only come about from Extra.

>she can't be hurt by anything and also she can change the laws of physics and open and close dimensions at will and do time travel magic and even if someone hurts her, she can just change that reality and also ...
I can't seriously believe that she's supposed to exist. Even in GOworld, it seems disproportionate to everything else.

>>156691152
grand was a mistake. im glad tsukihime remake wont be a thing anymore.

>>156704389
In her domain she's stronger than Solomon. Within the far side of the moon cell she's an omnipotent goddess who controls reality at her whim.
Her entire conflict is that she can't LEAVE her domain. She can't exit the moon cell. She can't save Hakuno, who's existence is bound to the moon cell. All her power and she can't accomplish what she wants.

CCC is outside the scale of other stories.

>>156703561
She's Fate's Deadpool.

>>156703503
She's part of a serious event. BB trolled all players with a promo about being a beach fanservice event only for Nasu to reveal it's actually part of 1.5 Epic of Remnants which deal with the disappearance of Seraphics, an oil company which provides funds for Chaldea, to 2030 (which turns into SERAPH). There's a murder mystery and how it's sinking to the ocean.

>>156704606
That all being the case, would you say that CCC is worth playing? Would you say that it is good? It always seems like there's one or two people in these threads who like it, and everyone else either avoids its existence from an extreme-subconscious level or vocally hates it.

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>>156689268
Sasaki is such a bro.

Grand Order is shit and I'm still butt mad about losing my account but it was for the best.

>>156704165
>She ate the thing that Tiamat is based off of.
Incorrect. Tiamat in FGO was present when Earth started to evolved, the goddess BB ate is only 8000 years old.

>>156702812
Stop shilling your dirty cash funding game.

>>156701622
Fate is officially dead to me when that happens. Can't wait to hear the bitching about misogyny, objectification and fuck knows what else.

>>156704606
Are you actually following CCC event? Because this is all bullshit now.

>CCC is outside the scale of other stories.
Except for Nasu calling FGO outside the scale of other stories he ever wrote? CCC now is on the level of 'break' from FGO serious battles plot, as a part of Epic of Remnants, the "breather" interlude that's meant for you to relax as a transition between the two parts of Nasu's grand story.

>>156702719
They aren't the faggots who build casino into their suburb malls until liberals put down their foot and say fuck you no, burger.

>>156704887
So what are you getting at?

>>156704606
BB's goal right now is trying to replicate the Time Temple and she doesn't have the power to pull it off. While Solomon effortlessly made that when he was an apathetic underachiever.

>>156705001
My point is that you're overestimating BB. She's powerful only when she acts like a gag character or under very specific circumstances where she gains control of Mooncell (and anyone in control of Mooncell gets free buffs). When she tries to do something serious (like anon brought it up: attempt to recreate Solomon's time temple?) she cannot do it. She falls short. She's not even worth considered as boss for a big part of FGO as Tiamat or Goetia were. CCC scale of things to FGO measure up to "a chapter in the breather intermission."

Because FGO, not Extra, Tsukihime or FSN, is supposed to be Nasu going "wild" with the setting and make things off scale.

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>>156705145
I wasn't the guy you were debating with, I was just unclear on your point. But what you've said is helpful; thank you for dispelling what the other guy said. I wouldn't know it otherwise. I'm glad that Solomon gets to keep his throne of "strongest" (presumably) forever. If there were to be anyone who could beat him in any circumstance, I'm certain it would ruin the point of Solomon.

I swear to god if it wasn't so fucking late i'd reply to every single retard in these thread defending GO. It's an atrocity and honestly liking it should just permaban you from /a/ automatically since it means you have a terminal case of shit taste and no respect for any creative work at all. You just want more, more more with no regard for quality or consistency. GO is the industrialization and extraction of soul of a previously loved franchise and i fucking hate every single one of it's players. FUCK YOU.

>>156689268
Things like these is why the term "death of the author" exists. Nasu is clearly just a sellout who doesn't care about Fate anymore. Just because he said GO is canon we really shouldn't consider it as so.

>>156705647
I'm with you, brother. But "having a terminal case of shit taste and no reapect for any creative work at all" is almost mandatory for watching half of the shit that is getting discussed on this board. No suprises here.

Imagine how good GO could have been if we got reasonable, not genderbent designs for the historical figures. Instead we have a horrible phone game which has the sole purpose of being an assembly line of waifus drawn by popular authors with no regard for consistency. Such is life.

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>>156705679
I just hope that while he's swimming in money his soul actually has a big, gaping hole which is getting wider every minute, reminding him that he will always stuck with Fate and can never escape from it.

>>156704887
>>156705063
>>156705145
BB in GO is way less than BB was in CCC mah dudes. Look at how much her skills have dropped. She's not * everything anymore. And she's still treating Guda as a toy.

>>156689268
I just want another novel, in whatever form, tahtt focuses on telling a story instead of expanding the Pokemon roster.

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why couldnt his A luck cancel her E- luck


>>156705647
some of it is pretty neat- most of it is shit, but there's still some good in there

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>>156706172
Strange Fake. Not Pokemon-y in the slightest.

>>156694789
What's that mecha?
It's pretty cool and looks sorta like a Nagano designed version of the O

>>156701622
Having kids with Sensei!

>>156695217
what is grand saber/archer?

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>>156705647
Preach.
Half-baked, slapdashed ideas one after another, LOL IT WAS THE LITTLE FURBALL ALL ALONG-tier "twists" and stupid disconnected stories that barely go anywhere and are just an excuse to introduce more servants for the gacha.
Nasu writes this like he's just doing random drafts with a very light veneer of interconnectivity, just bouncing out whatever stupid idea comes in his head without pausing for thought.

>>156707340
probably something like Itou Ittousai and Ji Chang, because I just fucking know Nasu is gonna steal that opportunity from me and use him

I can practically guarantee that they'll be Easterners, though - if nobody featured in Arthurian legend is good enough to be either Grand Saber or Grand Archer, Nasu isn't going to make them Western or Middle-Eastern figures.

>>156707526
You've never played the game in your life, you skim summaries, and you don't know a word of Japanese.

>>156707340
Are you asking who is Grand Saber/Archer or what is "Grand Saber/Archer"?

If you're asking who, then there isn't one yet.
If you're asking what, Grand Servants are seven servants that defends humanity.

So far, the only Grand Servants we know is the Grand Caster, which is King Solomon. King Hassan was supposed to be the Grand Assassin as well but he abandoned the title.

>>156707768
are Grand Servants relevant outside of Grand Order?

>>156700363
what the fuck is this overpowered shit?

does EX rank Presence Concealment make a servant literally invisible?

>>156707831
Define relevance.
They should exist in any world with a strong human principle but all they do is stop Beasts from killing all humans. (And possibly extraterrestrials if Velber 02 was stopped by Grand Saber)

>>156707902
His entire thing is that he can barely be perceived even by his master.
However, it seems he is weaker than even normal Hassans in battle as compensation.

>>156707916
like I never heard of them till know so I can't help but think they're mostly irrelevant in any other Fate work that isn't GO

>>156707902
It's not really that OP. He's an assassin. His presence concealment reduces to A+ when he attacks so it's fairly balanced.

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>>156689268
>all these heroes
>made to look stupid to pander to audience for some phone game

I hate grand order so much.

>>156707831
They save humanity from the Beasts. So, if a Beast shows up at/in any work other than Grand Order, sure. Grand Servants aren't supposed to be 'relevant', though. The whole point, essentially, is that they should only return to the world once. The assumption of the occurrence of that one instance is why they were made Grands and unsummonable outside of the end of the world.

>>156706653
Charles Babbage.

>>156706653
The mecha is Charles Babbage, someone who thought that STEAMPUNK would be key to humanity's technological future advances. He developed the way that led to the creation of computers while trying to create a steam-powered computer.

His noble phantasm takes form of that suit of armor, making him a caster with B~A rank physical strength and endurance. I think he was a little disappointed that humanity adopted electricity instead of steam, but he finds our new inventions amazing.

>>156707962
As said, all they really do is stop Beasts from eradicating all humans.
If you were to summon one in a normal holy grail war, they'd be a bitchin' heroic spirit and guaranteed win, but you would just get them as "best fucking [class] possible" rather than "[Grand Class]". Grands are only Grands when summoned to defend the human race, and they only defend the human race from Beasts*.
So they're not that important.

(*: and possibly extraterrestrial opponents, if Velber 02 was indeed stopped by Grand Saber. It was stopped by Excalibur wielded by a mortal's hands, at least, around 12000 BC.)

>>156707986
>king arthur
>made to look like a thirsty whore just to pander to otaku
I hate Fate so much.

Why is everything a girl

>>156708079
Because cute girls sell merchandise.

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Prototype is pretty good, I'm looking forward to Ayaka's Arthur (Cute Male) facing down Manaka and the legion of doom.

>>156708079
To balance the male to female ratio. If they didn't change the genders of some servants, then Fate would be a sausagefest and an uncountable amount of fujos would rush in.

>>156705777
You're implying that Fate wasn't a chuunifest from the word go.
>buh muh respect towards historical figures
Never was there, Fate never gave a shit beyond adopting whatever Nasu thought was cool.

>>156708136
>Prototype is pretty good
nice meme

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>complaining about Fate genderbenders in 2017
I thought we were all animepros here. Butthurt Yuropoors need to stop wanking to "muh heritage" and enjoy some quality girls.

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>>156708156
Nah, they even fuck with fujos too. They turned Emiya into a nigger.

>>156708079
Because money

>>156704021
>murder mystery
that's an odd way to put it.

>>156707526
>>156705647
Hi EOPs.

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>>156708275
I for one like Emiya Alter.

>>156708255
Pic not related.
Nobukatsu a cute though.

>>156705647
>I can't read Japanese

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>>156707902
It's mostly as the others have said, but also kinda not. He's not just invisible at Rank EX; he's "part of the world". This means that he can communicate by writing words on a computer screen without touching anything (by fucking with the data) or making his Master write a note involuntarily. But it also appears that he cannot exit out of being "part of the world" without intending to attack someone, so he can't do things which normal Servants can - he can't touch or hold stuff, or even speak. He's literally only been ordered to kill a non-mage mafia figure, because he (Hassan) terrifies the hell out of his Master, so we don't really know his real potential[s].

He seems fairly overpowered when compared to Servants from regular Grail Wars, but the False Grail War is comprised solely of broken Servants. Alcides has a fuckton of NPs, the last of which can steal other Noble Phantasms. One of the Servants is a physical incarnation of the concept of "Disease" or "a curse of death". Everything that the Saber touches - that he wants to use - turns into a 100%-functional Excalibur blast for at least one swing (hence pic related, which actually happens). Like one-third of the Servants are demigods. If you were expecting a down-to-earth and rational HGW, Strange Fake is probably not for you.

>>156708079
Ignore the other responses; it's like 60% exclusively Takeuchi's fault.

>>156708156
Fate/Zero was a sausagefest though. Why didn't they change that? Like changing Giles de Rais to a yandere girl might be a great idea. Or Iskandar into a loli so Waver will have anime rom com hijinks and become straight as an adult.

>>156708668
Urobutcher doesn't care about sausagefests, he just needs his murderboner.

Why is Fate so much better with a female MC?

>>156690685
Same. What made Fate interesting for me was the clash between the modern world and magic and servants. I want to see normal humans dealing with that shit, I don't want a wankfest between broken heroic spirits.
>>156694435
Wasn't there one novel about El Melloi II and another not!Saber with some super special scythe ?
Other than that I don't think we're ever going to get another Fate entry that has the same feel as the original.
Type-Moon should just let it rest, work on Tsukihime, make a new license, then turn around and announce another Fate VN/game/novel that's in the same vein.

But they do mad money from milking Fate, so they would be crazy to stop doing it.

>>156701730
Just play Granblue, it's better in every way. You will never ever get anything good in GO without spending hundreds.

>>156708993
>tfw rolled King Hassan without spending a dime

>>156701622
Eh, I guess I'll try it out to see if the story is as good as FGOfags says it is.
I couldn't get into Granblue though so I don't think I'll get into that. Why even play this when you have pc and console gaming ?
>>156701867
Gachashit really is the new pachinko isn't it ?

>>156709196
No amount of DLC can make people drop tens/hundreds of thousands yen to get a single character. And new characters are introduced every month.

>>156709266
Every month is a stretch. We just got a bunch for CCC, but before that the last new addition was Arthur back in February. DW has like one sprite animator working on the game.

>>156704165
Tiamat IS the primordial mother goddess.

She is essentially unkillable under normal circumstances because she is basically life itself and doesn't even have the concept of death.

Did they really ruin Musashi? I could understand Yoshitsune getting turned into a girl since even the Japanese myths describe him as being as beautiful as flowers in the spring but Musashi is consistently described as a huge manly fuck with thick arms and often shown to be as resolute as a mountain while free like clouds.

>>156709196
> I guess I'll try it out to see if the story is as good as FGOfags says it is.
Do you also check texts that kids wrote in class, just to look - maybe there is some really hot shit out there? We never know, right?
It's a fucking mobile game, how could anyone with half a brain expect the story, featuring 100+ devianart-level characters, dressed like a prostitutes, to be "good"?!

>>156709800
By not being prejudiced jackasses with no arguments beyond "I hate thing, so thing is objectively bad and everyone who likes it should feel bad"?

>>156709196
You might have to wait a while. It's highly unlikely we'll get all the singularities at launch. The writing doesn't get good until Okeanos at the absolute earliest

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>>156709797
Its alternate dimension Musashi, or something

>>156709797
you dont understand, ITS A REALLY CUTE GIRL

>>156709907
It's a mobile game. But whatever, suit yourself.

>>156710380
It's [thing]. But whatever, suit yourself.

>>156704856
>Implying Nasu or Takeuchi cares
>Implying Takeuchi isn't creating more saberface as we write in this thread

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>>156709797
>hair up, exposed neck
>choker
>bare armpits
>oppai cleavage
>very pointy nipples & no bra
>navel window
>magnificent hips
>zettai ryouiki
>high heels
>genki
>hedonistic
>massive daddy issues
Musashi is perfect just the way she is.

>Title of singularity has buddhist references
>Map is a giant naked woman that looks suspiciously like Kiara
>Nigga!Emiya, who was corrupted by the action of killing Kiara, is in the event
Lots of speculation that Kiara is the real final boss of the event

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>>156710570
>Nasu: He should be a lot busier than I am, but he’s always drawing Arturia during his free time (laughs). We’re all busy with the main story and events and then he goes “Here, I drew ******** Arturia” out of nowhere.

>>156709139
>King Hassan
>good
DUDE DARKSOULS

>>15671075
>good design - dissimilar to the usual fags in spandex / saberface
>plays a fair role in story
>decent lore

whats not to like?

>>156696032
Who the fuck starts with HA?

>five Avengers
Why? Are they deliberately making it as shit as they can so people forget about Girls' Work?

>>156711148
DO you have a problem with the number five?

>>156711148
There's nothing wrong with the idea of multiple Avengers. There's a problem with some of them lacking the significant hatred/motives associated with the Avenger class, but the Grail, the Servant containers, and the already-summoned Servants themselves can be manipulated into being 'unnatural' Avengers, so it's not like it's necessarily a flaw in concept.

>>156711148
Girl's Work is dead just like DDD, Mahoyo and Tsukihime.

>>156711148
What's wrong with having multiple Avengers?

IMO the only real problem with FGO is that a lot of things were obviously designed or written with little serious thought put into them because the point of the game was fanservice and/or waifubaiting. With the possible exception of Emperor Nero, pretty much every servant who came in every Fate incarnation before, even the weird and apparently dumb ones like Jack The Ripper, clearly involved a lot of research into the mythology and history of the figure and the time period in which their legend was born, and there was always justification for things like a gender swap or a unusual form or a power that seemed like a big stretch on the legends. You can say the same about the world building and the character arcs and almost every other part, regardless of your opinion of actual quality, the fact that a lot of work went in always shone through. GO seems to be missing that basic level of care in the majority of its content, right down to character designs.

It has some good stuff. Scathach is great. Atilla is a cool concept even if her gender swap is poorly justified. Tristan is fantastic and Bedivere was really satisfying to see fully fleshed out. But there's a lot more eye roll worthy things than things that make me pleased.

>>156712420
>there's a lot more eye roll worthy things
Name them.

>>156689268
I need doujins of their "sword fight".

>>156712473

Nobunaga being unchanged from her joke doujin 4koma form comes immediately to mind.

>call him assassin
>doesn't assassinate anyone
>call him lancer
>basically wields a spear
>call him king arthur
>it's a cute girl
>call him archer
>mostly uses swords

Is Nasu a hack?

>>156708897
>I don't want a wankfest between broken heroic spirits
Humans are in no way comparable to Heroic Spirits and every instance of a human beating one in Stay Night was terrible. Heroic Spirits are meant to be OP. They're larger than life and even the weakest heroic spirit is stronger than most humans just because of their servant container. The human characters are fine and all, but putting them up against Heroic Spirits is a bad idea.

>>156690685
Grand Order did a few things right, namely Solomon and the Babylon chapter, but it does have some seriously bad offenses to the lore. Anything involving Nero is automatically worse than it could've been though, and she got a whole chapter and 2 events.

>>156714203
>every instance of a human beating one in Stay Night was terrible.
Kuzuki's beatdown of Saber was pretty exciting, though.

Did they add more Christian heroes yet?

>>156707962
They'll probably make an appearance in other Fate works eventually. They're made out to be pretty important in the grand scheme of things with the new Beast plotline. Merlin and Gilgamesh are both candidates for Grand Caster (Gil might be for Grand Archer as well), Solomon was Grand Caster, King Hassan (the first of the Hassan) is Grand Assassin. None of the others are known currently. They have better servant containers that make them even more like what they were in life when summoned as Grands.

>>156714242
Come on, what's there even to complain about the Nero festivals? There's fuck-all to say about them in terms of story, because there's fuck-all of a story to say anything about.

>>156710380
>FSN
It's a porn game. But whatever, suit yourself

>F/Z
It's a Light Novel. But whatever, suit yourself.

Takeuchi just uses whatever format that sales best. Back in 2000 Nasu wanted to release novels, but Takeuchi convinced him to release Eroge and put porn in it, it worked. Now, instead of a shitty browser game that nobody plays, we get a shitty mobile turn based RPG gacha simulator that rake in millions of normalfags $$. Nasu writing is still there

>>156712420
>Scathach is great
You just named one of the worst parts of GO though. She's a footnote in Cu Chulainn's legend at best and yet she's given the title of immortal god slayer when that's really more Fionn's thing. She has no right being as present as she is and the fact that she's even stronger than Cu, regardless of how much time she spends training, is ludicrous. Not only that, but she complains about being unable to die and wanting to die in combat but she never steps outside of her Land of Shadows until it gets destroyed, which actually does kill her. If she wants to die in battle so badly, why doesn't she leave the literal Irish underworld so that she can actually find a proper match? And her being able to summon servants is also BS. Scat is overwanked garbage who still manages to do nothing in GO's plot.

>>156714391
They have Nero in them, which is reason enough. Any attention given to Nero is less attention given to actually interesting servants.

>>156714293
Sure it was exciting, but it really had no reason to happen. Saber has Instinct but it never helped her once during that whole confrontation. It seems to exist purely as a get out of jail free card when the plot demands it at times and then it's useless the rest of the time.

>>156714692
Snake is an assassination tech and the unnatural hits are designed around confusing instinct/predictions. Even then Saber's Instinct was enough to not get completely destroyed that fight, she managed to avoid hits toward the end once she got used to it.

>>156714464
>F/Z
>Takeuchi
I fail to see a connection here.
>Nasu wanted to release novels, but Takeuchi convinced him to release Eroge
Because those things are so-o different, right? Also Stay Night was just full of those eroge elements, right? Must i dare to say, the game was just build up around them?
Let's stop this. You like that cheap cashgrab, that's fine. One day you will actually read a book or two and will get the cance to realise you were wrong. Or, at least, will stop blaming all the wrongs in the franchise on evil, greedy Takeuchi.

>>156715082
Type Moon has always used whatever format that sells best. PC instead of PC-98 for Tsukihime, PSP for Extra, now shitty mobile game for Grand Order. The waifu gacha sim is exactly the same kind of content as the porn in Stay Night, its there to get people through the door. If GO was a browser fighter like Nasu originally wanted it'd be dead by the 5th chapter.

Mahoyo flopping is the main reason T-M is doing mobage now. It took a lot of time to make, and no one brought it. Otaku don't want a 20 hours unvoiced VN, no matter how pretty it look. Mobage format let them release 1 chapter at the time, while keeping the otaku in with waifus, as well as profit from the normalfag and fujo market

>>156715082
Novels and eroge VNs are pretty different. It's pretty much mandatory for a VN to have a male protag. It needs to have routes and the routes need to be structured around a female character. VNs pretty much have to be in 1st person. You jeed to spend time and money on music, art, programming, potentially VA. None of those are required for a novel, much more freedom and writing, less time and money.

I don't know anything about TM history or anything, but if Nasu's original plan was to release novels one can only assume there were massive changes to the story plan as a result.

>>156691031
is that the same silly excuse that they use when they explain the saber clones with different class and/or alter?

>>156714363
Christian's are just Abrahamic heroes now. Moses knew holy kung-fu.

>>156715082
F/Z is a Light Novel, a medium considered inferior trash for people who can't read anything other than a bunch of dialogues, just as F/SN is/was a porn game, what people consider fap material. The medium does not dictate the quality of writing, it only set people's expectation for them.

GO's front as a mobage seems to get people's pantsu in a twist, when its no different from Tsuki/SN getting released as an eroge. Having porn/gacha roll in it doesn't deteriorate the quality of the main plot in anyway (Having Sakurai write the first few chapters does, but Nasu took over after the first few and the quality pick back up again). Camelot/Babylon were at least the size of a Fate's route each, if not longer.

Plus, I'd take GO's combat system over Extra/CCC's AWFUL RPG anyday

>>156715292
>Type Moon has always used whatever format that sells best.
And it's fine, it is a company, after all. But the format they have choosen now will automaticaly cripple even a really good idea (wich is not the case in GO, but it doesn't matter right now). It's perfectly fine that, as a company, Type Moon is concerned with their profits. But it does not excuse them from being a bunch of faggots that throw cheap shit in the market and keep doing it again and again. You could be a company that makes money and decent games alltogether. Or you could be EA-level company.
>>156715442
I'm really thankful for your information, but i can not imagine the story of FSN in any other format without significant changes.

>>156715442
Its not like Nasu already have a Tsukihime novel ready to publish and Takeuchi convinced him to change format. Its more Nasu wanted to write/submit novels but Takeuchi got him onboard developing an eroge instead

Plus, KnK got repurposed into Tsukihime.

I personally think FGO is alright, since Nasu can safely write without worrying about another Mahoyo.

>>156715787
The only significant problem the mobage format face is that you can't have a (You) like Shiki/Shirou, because it has to be a self insert.

The larger problem is that Type Moon is not a game company, at its core its still a Visual Novel studio, they don't do gameplay. Nasu's original idea for GO is a browser turn by turn fighter of sort, that's GO's battle system for all intents and purposes. The ideal scenario is a console JRPG, which may happen in the future, considering they branched out to Musou with Extella

>>156716033
If you can self-insert as Shirou, you can self-insert as a stone, or a dog, or whatever. Good luck with that.
Mobage format, in the first place, is what makes them keep feeding their target audience with all those generic servants with MMO-designs.

The only question I got is when we're gonna get more Biblical heroes. As far as I know, we only have Solomon, David, Martha, and arguably Ozy.

>>156716345
I mean like mobage format needs a blank (You) for the player to self insert as, like well eroge really. You can't have Shiki/Tohno-kun/Shirou first person PoV in a mobage, they have too much personality, quirks and serious mental damage for that.

>Mobage format, in the first place, is what makes them keep feeding their target audience with all those generic servants with MMO-designs.

I can't really comment on designs since its a personal taste thing, but most of them seems to have a solid enough backstory that they can have a side events of their own at some point into the future to flesh them out. The singularities in part 1 are kind of all over the place after all.

Meme servants can get a bit annoying (Swimsuit X/Y/Z, Star Wars Saber, Kamen Rider Kintoki, etc...), but w/e fanservice

>>156716524
Moses was a thing, but he's not a Servant yet.

I'm mad because Musashi is actually one of the best designed genderbents

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>>156716524
Saint George is a Rider.

Moses' name has been thrown around and he gets hyped up as being really strong.

>>156716756
Saint George isn't actually biblical.

>>156715442
>>156715787

> if Nasu's original plan was to release novels one can only assume there were massive changes to the story plan as a result.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaeA_xjMR_w

There is your answer

>>156716660
Just no

>>156717112
F/P was Nasu's plan for an otoge though.

>>156717112
So, you're saying that VN format put him under a certain restrictions that made him change some points in the story. But here we've got anime, that shows us what was REALLY in his plans all along. Without those nasty genre restrictions. Seems legit.

>>156708599
>If you were expecting a down-to-earth and rational HGW, Strange Fake is probably not for you.
Despite this, SF is easily the most grounded and dowd to earth HGW and with the least bullshit in years.

>>156717721
Still no fucking deaths.

>>156717761
>Still on day 1
Narita's autism is something beautiful to behold.

>>156717721
>with the least bullshit
I hope you're joking.

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My only real problem with GO is how over the top things have gotten. We went from Angry Manjew fucking up Earth being the worst shit that could happen to the Beasts fucking up the whole universe and reality. Though, to be fair, this kind of power-creep started with CCC.

All the big hitters like the Types or full power-Arcuied and shit like that were always "there" but were never truly shown and were just on the background. It's weird to actually see them in action.

>>156717872
Call me back when someone tanks a universe ending beam because ai yo and dies but the ai yo was so strong that the shield is still there intact because of how much ai yo there was in the tanking.

And let's not even get started on (you). At least Shirou has the excuse of being a sword with avalonhax to survive all the bullshit he survives.

>>156691152

The entire fucking franchise rests on a fucking genderbent King Arthur, it's a bit fucking late to come in and whine about historical males being represented by females

>>156717933
>Lord Camelot tanking Ars Almadel Salomonis is bullshit
wew lad

>>156718074
Everything in Camelot is bullshit anyway. It was all held back because of how fucking retarded everyone on that shithole was.

>>156717872
The funniest thing about SF, which originally began as a joke, is that while the Servants it features were absurd back when it started, nowadays they're almost mundane.

Is this the best scene in the entirety of Fate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_s-_gHn9A

>>156718177
its sad that Gilgamesh isnt even that impressive anymore

>>156718264
Not even the Types are impressive anymore. Fucking power creep.

>>156718336
wasnt there a vampire who had two types as pets?

>>156718373
No. That was Altrouge who had Primate Murder as her pet.

KAMEN RIDER AS GRAND RIDER WHEN I WANNA SEE EX RANK RIDER KICK

>>156718373
No. There was a Dead Apostle Ancestor who had another Dead Apostle Ancestor as a pet.

>>156718411
are beasts ranked above or below types?

since primate murder and type mercury were poth DAA - which was higher ranked?

>>156718442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzxzRGebqh8

>>156717357
>The original version of Fate/stay night, now called Old Fate (旧Fate, Kyū Fate?) and Fate Origin, was a novel that Nasu wrote during high school, eventually being vastly redesigned as a visual novel to suit the target audience. They were reluctant to completely abandon many of the "original charms" that were discarded, and they had wished to utilize them somehow with each passing year. Twenty years after originally being penned, they decided to make use of the release of Carnival Phantasm, discarding other proposals like Princess Arcueid VS Saber Lily or a scene from Tsukihime 2, to "just once, return to the original" for the company's belated tenth anniversary.

They decided to frame the animation like a movie trailer, utilizing the best parts and still telling the story properly. Nasu feels that the main idea of the work was in the style of an ‘80s romance, “A story of revolutionizing the world”, and took great interest in returning to the work. The large difference in obtaining the Holy Grail from the original to the final product in Fate/stay night can be said to represent the changing trends of the period. - Prototype Material

It was planned as a novel

>>156689268
To think I used to be such a huge fan of the original F/SN and other early TM works. I'm so out of touch with it now I can't help but wonder what the fuck happened.

>>156718518
>no Rider Kick
>no bug helmet
>no scarf
it's just not the same

>>156718456
Probably above considering the Types are the embodiment of the will of the planets, the Ultimate Ones. At the very least Archetype Earth should be able to blow the fuck out of them.

>>156718612
Come on, he does jump kicks and goes henshin and stuff.

>>156718442
>Heroic Spirit KADOYA

>>156718679
>Just a passing through Kame-no, just a passing through Heroic Spirit
>REMEMBER THAT

>>156718847
>Heroic Spirit TACHIBANA
>Frail Constitution: EX
>BORO BORO DA

>>156719041
>SAYOKOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>156719041
Would Kenzaki and Hajime be considered Beasts?

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Fate has always been stupid bullshit, people just got used to the original stupid bullshit
This is a series that started with King Arthur being a cute little girl, turning other historical figure into cute little girls is the natural progression to follow
I mean did you ever at any point think "okay the genderbeing thing was a one time deal, surely they won't do that again"

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>>156720118
Generic fantasy has elves - some mystical folk with long ears living long years. This is bullshit. Let's make them also fly and shoot lasers from their eyes, it's the natural progression to follow.
And the answer is that thing called "taste". GO-fags have none of it.

>>156720388
You joke, but that's how elf subspecies work in D&D. Like, Drow have infravision and innate ability to cast faerie fire and globe of darkness.

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>>156716660
I wish her design had been used on an actual female samurai rather than Musashi.

Oh well, bring on the doujins.

>>156720952
Can't drow nobles levitate too? Maybe I'm thinking of Pathfinder.

>>156721400
>I wish her design had been used on an actual female samurai rather than Musashi.
It's not even worth being upset by at this stage. Just go with the flow and do what TM are doing - milk it for all it's fucking worth.

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>>156690685
This, easily one of the weakest parts of the Nasuverse regardless of its main story, simply because of how many awful new Servant ideas and shitty "original" lore came out associated with it.

>>156700217
Fuck off, the story may have interesting lore in the 2nd half and Solomon is a good character, but that doesn't excuse the core of what FGO is and the road it's taking the Nasuverse, as well as all the other dumb shit that it contains.

>>156721883
What do you expect when you give creative rights to a bunch of artists and just say "here, go nuts"

>>156722528
Lots of uninspired content that seems non-canon but will still be taken seriously. I expected it, yet I'm still disappointed with most of GO.

I would participate in a HGW and take whatever Servant I got and run with it, no catalyst at all

The only thing that really urks me is taking Nobu and Okita, two joke characters, as the actual Nobunaga and Okita

dude reapers lmao

>>156723007
You would die like a bitch on the first day, guaranteed.

>>156723586
>not a magus
of course he would

>>156723007
Take the bible and tell Jesus if he doesn't help you fight in the Grail War, you will kill all of humanity when you win because he abandoned you.

Jesus will most likely respond to that threat.

>>156723656
>summoning divine spirits in HGW

because that worked so well for the einzberns

Why didn't the Einzberns summon Satan or Lucifer to fight in the Grail War instead of the Zoro God.

>>156723648
He could be the best magus in the world but if he runs without a catalyst and pulls a complete run of the mill servant, he has no chance of doing anything at all.

At least going by the original F/SN's rules. Granted, given all of the recent servant power creep I imagine the problem is only further compounded.

>>156723743
assuming they could- they would fall under beast and be beyond control. or be like angry manjew - and just be the IRL person the myth was based on and useless (before tainting the grail) , not to mention the fact that a catalyst is required

>>156721513
Yeah, I forgot about that. Some of the powers come from living amidst weird ores in the Underdark, and wear off if they stay out several years.

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>>156723702
>Worked well for the Einzbern
Are you implying Shirou was a mistake?

>>156723796
>rin had no catalyst, yet summoned archer

granted archer wasnt all that strong - but with a competent enough master he could have won a HGW.

besides, a catalyst is just a way of guaranteeing a certain servant, if you go without you will just get one based on your character and compatability

>>156723859
>Gets rekt by DRAGON DICK while pretty being the owner of one side of the war and like 70 centuries of prep-time and full backing from the church
He's a maximum jobber, that's for sure.

>>156723859
>that hair
yes


also
>what is manjew

>>156723911
Reminder that Archer would have won the 5th HGW if he had gone full sniper mode no fucks given in day fucking one.

>>156723911
>rin had no catalyst, yet summoned archer
Rin most definitely had a catalyst. You can't even pull Emiya without one.

>>156723911
she had the amulet that healed the emiya though, wasn't that supposed to be a catalyst?

>>156723961
>would have won
maybe - assuming he had enough meta knowledge from his HGW being similar, but some factors are otherwise hard to predict (kuzuki & caster) - he is also at a disagvantage vs Cu and Gilgamesh

>>156723985
>>156723972
my bad- she did have the amulet. but she wasnt specifically using it as one

>>156723859
So I didn't follow this much. Did one of them betrayed/sacrificed another or were they lavulavu to the end?

>>156724043
>Maybe
It's literally something that happens in FHA.

Gilgamesh would go down like a bitch because if Shirou managed to beat Gil then EMIYA would double-beat him.

Cu is the only real threat because he can't snipe him thanks to lol projectiles don't affect me.

>>156724090
It didn't matter. The amulet and especially her affinity with it overrode any actual catalyst she might have used anyway.

>>156723859
What have the Einzbern ever done that's not been a mistake and came back to fuck them over sideways to next Sunday?

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>>156723912
You fucking delete that post, right now. Its not his fault he couldn't beat the dick. Nobody can beat the dick. It doesn't help the dick belong to self-insert as well.

Shirou deserved to win. Its not fair.

>>156724095
Assassin was loyal.

>>156724131
shirou also beat EMIYA

Gil is at a certain disadvantage agains archer ( GoB< UBW) but his main weakness (not taking thing seriously) is less of an issue vs a faker who insults everything he stands for & is a servant

>>156723702
It's more that every single thing the Einzberns do fails because they're idiots
They would have found some way to fuck up regardless of who they summoned

>tfw no Observer class

>>156723648
>>156723796
Didn't master of caster in fate/zero do ok without a catalyst and being a magus?
Sure he didn't win, but he didn't die first day either.

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>>156724167
Pic related.

>>156724202
>shirou also beat EMIYA
EMIYA let him. You can't honestly believe in any capacity that Shirou is stronger than him.

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>>156724167
Fate/Grand Order: Accel Zero, 4th Holy Grail War

>>156724219
There's Watcher in SF now. What would you want in Observer?

>>156724237
He caused some havoc to make a spectacle of things, but Gilles realistically had no chance of beating any other servant in that war.

#NotMyMusashi

>>156689268
Yeah. I also remembered that you are the savior of France and that from your P.O.V. dragons are oversized swallows.

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Fate these days is a literal parody of itself.

>>156724219
>ruler


>>156724245
>EMIYA let him.

and Gil underestimated him due to him being human - he has favorable circumstances in both scenarios

>>156724245
Don't forget that EMIYA was also 3/4 dead and without Mana and running on fumes.

>>156724237
>>156724293
For all intents and purposes both Ryuunosuke and Gilles were winners at life even if not at the HGW.

They became bros, they both spent all their time having fun doing wholesome activities together and died happy with a smile on their face.

How many other Masters and Servants can say the same?

>>156724289
I actually wrote that post in reference to Watcher. Observer is far more fittng both in a narrative and chuuni setting

>>156724331
>>156724344
I'm of course not arguing that Shirou doesn't have the potential to win - obviously it literally happens in F/SN. But we're assuming Archer is attempting to win the 5th HGW straight off the bat, no fucking around.

Well, this is all a fairly pointless discussion to begin with. Half the point is that anyone can win with the right circumstances in their favour.

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The Fate franchise needs a reboot desperately.

>>156724331
>and Gil underestimated him due to him being human - he has favorable circumstances in both scenarios
You say it like if Gil would not underestimate EMIYA either. He would just go REEEEEEE FAKER even harder at most.

>>156724446
This girl is from katawa wtf.

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>>156724412
Medea and Kuzuki - apart from the dying happy bit

>>156695034
shouldn't swallows know better than to go near him by now

>>156724459
theres a certain point where autistic rage overpowers ego - he might reach that point

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>>156724506
Akira has been involved in every historical event. Really, check your college textbooks.

>>156724459
EMIYA is at least a Servant though, that's a reason to take him slightly more seriously.

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>>156724554
Nothing overpowers ego when it comes to Gil.

>>156724668
you underestimate the power of autism

Will Ushi ever get Hassou Tobi

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>>156724723
But I've had the power of autism for years and it's never gotten me anywhere.

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>>156724446
>Nasu about to re-do Tsukihime lore if he ever finishes the remake
>the Fate side is the one that desperately needs a do-over with how much GO has muddled it

Really makes you think.
Type-Moon is doomed the way it's going.

>>156724881
Reminder that GO is the reboot/retcon of Fate.

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>>156724412
You just described Chaldea.

>>156724881
>Nasu about to re-do Tsukihime lore if he ever finishes the remake
>implying

>>156724881
>Type-Moon is doomed the way it's going.
Maybe if you yell it loud enough Nasu will heard you over all the money he's making.

>>156725853
That's 100% the issue, anon. If not for the loads of cash, GO trash might've been abandoned after they finished the first part of the story at the latest.

>>156725965
So the company is doomed because a thing by them you don't like is doing well?
You are insignificant. The rest of the GO haters too, really. You aren't the center of the universe.

>>156726054
The company sure as hell isn't doomed with how much it's raking off of waifu and husbandofags, but most of the interesting things about the universe's chuuni lore and the core concepts that made KnK, Tsuki, FSN, and even FZ good (which are barely at all in FGO) are pretty fucked.

>muh fgo haters
Not everyone everywhere likes it, accept it and keep enjoying your mobile game and all the pandering you'll be receiving from now on thanks to the money it makes.

>>156726263
I'd argue otherwise. There's a big deal of chuuni world building in FGO. If that's what you want out of it, good news, you can actually find a fair amount of it in there. Whether the chuuni stuff is good or not is another matter.

I thought this was going to be a Vagabond thread because I read Miyamoto Musashi and the realized it's a Fate thread. I guess now I know what a ruined orgasm feels like.

>>156726437
Like I said, worldbuilding by itself is meaningless since it has nothing of what was appealing about the best entries in the universe to accompany that.
Would've rather had some fucking extra materials with just lore than the huge waste of time and resources that is that mobage. Fuck FGO.

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>Type-Moon just doesn't turn the Grand Order interludes into an anime shorts to promote the game.
>All the female interludes include Gudao and all the male interludes include Gudako.
>tfw no Raikou Interlude or Saber (Lancer) interlude anime.

Is this what despair is?

>>156727752
They don't promote GO because it doesn't need it and when they did it was clearly low effort with First Order. Fuck off back to your general.

>>156706152
She spent FIFTY YEARS in this plan.
>her skills have dropped
Only the welfare, not the npc version.

BB is just an AI program who was only strong because she ate the data of things in Mooncell and had control over the Far Side due to administrative duties (which Archimedes has in Extella, by the way). She was no stronger than White Sakura before she ate that info. On her own she's not really powerful, she just buffed herself with cheats.

BB is my waifu and I'm tired to see people wanking her without knowing she wasn't really that strong originally.

>>156716660
She looks just like every other of the countless kunoichis around. I really don't get how she looks unique.

>>156705528
To put it in perspective, Seraphics is now a perfect Mooncell replica and BB has spent the last 50 years trying to replicate the time temple with an endless succession of Holy Wars of 128 Servants each and she says it's not enough, she'll need at least tens thousands more Servants to maybe get there.

>>156707768
It's very heavy hinted Arthur (Proto) is going to be Grand Saber or a Grand Saber. He's Beast VI (the Beast of Revelations) nemesis and has been assigned a grand order.

Merlin will take over Grand Caster after Solomon died too. He's also linked to Beasts (with an ability of one).

Gilgamesh flat out said he wasn't a Grand Servant.

>>156707962
Fragments.
Hinted in Extella that they were the ones who destroyed the Sefar (a group of humans arrived out nowhere and the holy sword wielder among them one shot it when gods failed).

FGO is the main Nasuverse timeline right now, every other answer to it or crossover eventually.

>>156708052
>(*: and possibly extraterrestrial opponents, if Velber 02 was indeed stopped by Grand Saber. It was stopped by Excalibur wielded by a mortal's hands, at least, around 12000 BC.)
The slash that stopped Velber 02 is exactly like Arthur (male) slash in FGO, the horizontal one. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il3jj9KsqBo
(while Artoria slash is more vertical)

And he has time/world hoping powers.

>>156705528
"He" didn't disprove anything samefag. What he is saying is baseless bullshit. BB is much much stronger than solomon can ever be and solomon is not even close to being the strongrst. His fans are very delusional.

>>156727309
Yet is far more popular than the eroge VN ever was.

>>156724881
>the Fate side is the one that desperately needs a do-over with how much GO has muddled it
Except it didn't?

>>156728778
>>156725965

>>156720388
You know that Altera's shit design was for Extella right? She was only forced in FGO for promotion to Extella when the project got a delay.

>>156728655
lol ok sakura fanboy

>>156728839
Nasu said he had two parts thought, but I agree he was probably doing lipservice. He just wanted to do his Solomon story to explain how the age of gods ended and CCC event. I'm not sure how part 2 will work out, and I'm afraid he'll fuck it up as he fucked extra with extella.

Story wise, I'm not feeling how the second part will offer anything new. It'll be a lot of a jarring switch to not see pillar demons behind everything. It already feels weird to see Da Vinci or Mashu forced into Roman's role.

>>156728655
>hasn't read Chaldea Ace Nasu's interview yet

>>156729083
Post it then.

>>156728839
The first thing Nasu wrote was the ending of FGO and he expected it to have 100k players at most, like Extra/Stella/etc. They recorded Solomon's and Goetia's lines before everything (probably to pay Sugita and Suzuken fast).

>>156729159
How does that even remotely relate to the post you replied to?

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>>156691152
Has Takeuchi's sameface somehow managed to get worse? Really seems like he's regressed.