Dragon Ball Super

>>156688431
monkey will never be my girl

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>ywn be worthy of his tea

>>156688431
there isn't enough art of her on the boorus

so cauli and fembroly are 2 different characters?

>>156690966
no autistic anon

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Yes, I am a "Gohanfag". No, that does not make me a "retard". I fully understand the complaints you non-Gohanfags (We usually refer to you as the "mentally inclined") have about Gohan, but in no way do any of them stand up to his growth as a character up until now.

>One of the strongest fighters
>Beautiful loving wife
>Handsome, doesn't have a literal bowl cut
>Scholar
>Intelligent, smartest person in Dragon Ball, probably even smarter than Bulma and Dr. Briefs once you take away their bullshit inventions
>Great friendships with characters like Piccolo or Krillin (Goku is too autistic to have friends)
>Started training again because he understands the peril they're all in
>No autistic ego like the other saiyans
>Actually courageous enough to fight without hesitation and selfless enough to not have to be bargained with to fight (Money or begging like the slut androids)
>Actually still in the story unlike Future Trunks, who the creators knew was a bad character so they wrote him out, and put his current version on some useless shit island

The climax of this arc WILL show the value that Gohan holds as a character, and why I will ALWAYS support him.

Stand together brothers, we were expecting redemption last arc but I assure you, THIS TIME IT WILL REALLY HAPPEN; this is OUR arc (Why he got so much screen time, hopefully they finally get rid of Goku). Remember to ignore Trunksfags (Cancerous waifufaggots that need to fuck off because their character is gone in some shitty containment dimension), NuGohanfags (Imposters, trolls, Shota lovers) , Vegetafags (Jobbers and cucks), Gokufags, cellfags, and ESPECIALLY Blackfags (Fuck you especially).

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>>156688431
>Revealed as a pretty princess type that Hulks out
OK
>Now she's a thug that eats meat from the bone without a shirt on.
Muh dick

>>156688431
I wonder if Saiyan women can fuck themselves with their tails...

>>156692779
Probably wouldn't be all that comfortable without shaving.

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>>156692490
>>156692779
FUUUUUCK

>>156692779
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>>156693381
Any art prodigies out there that can get on this? I'd try myself but I'm about as talented as Jackson Pollock with Parkinson's.

>>156693500
If someone draws this, there waifu will come to them in their dreams tonight.

>>156688431
A thread died for this.

>>156694428
It probably wasn't worth keeping around any longer if it was bumming around on page 10.

>>156688431
what a cutie

Does anyone want e-rips of the DB Super Manga Volume 1 by VIZ?

Their release is higher resolution, has interviews, and more extended content in the chapters.

>>156698911
Go for it, drop it on a Mega or something.

>>156698911
Mmmmaybe. Kanzenshuu will probably translate the Japanese interviews from the tankoubon if they haven't already.

Why aren't there Kanzenshuus for every major Japanese property? All that information lost to time.

>>156698911
do the cucks still call vegetto "vegerot"

>>156699113
The online Viz translation I read of the last chapter used Vegerot. It also used "Lord of Lords" again and referred to Zamasu as Zamas.

>>156699037
>>156699104
>>156699113
>>156699191

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxFdpbZa7D_TSXJQSzlqVGtEYkk/view?usp=sharing

>>156692779
If the women can do it, then the men can do that too.

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kek toyotarou forgot to add this line in his manga, so he put it as a throwaway page to cover his mistakes.

what do toyocucks even see in hi m?

>>156699323
Imagine Vegeta massaging his prostate with his tail.

>>156699417
the pacing in those early chapters is utterly fucked

>>156701558
It had the opposite problem of the series, which took too long to do the Battle of Gods arc.

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Would you watch a show with this kid as the MC?

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>>156692490
Its two different characters which is good because it's about time we got some female sayians

>>156703602
no

>>156699417
what do Dragonballfags see in anything past the Android arc?

WTF episode 88 was amazing. Episode 89 looks even more amazing. The show is finally grabbing my interest.

The upcoming Tien / Roshi episode looks hype as fuck. For the first time in this series I can't wait a week for the next episode.

>>156699417
Anything pre-universe 6 doesn't count, so no one cares.

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> Not counting that Caulifa and "FemBroly" have different hair, face, and outfit

There are ACTUALLY people that think the smug, barbaric girl on the top = the shy, timid girl on the bottom

Remember when people thought Gotenks was Black? Retards, retards everywhere.

>>156688633
Stop reminding me

>>156692779
Only with a condom or something on, otherwise the hair would just be pushed against the grain, highly uncomfortable.
Also, wtf would happen if she orgasms? Most saiyans are paralyzed by their tails being squeezed.
You'd have a fainting goat scenario.

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>>156711279
They are the same no matter how much you say otherwise.
>b-but different outfits and attitude! what about the makeup!?
Caulifa is going to to dress herself up all pretty like and act like a damsel in distress saying stupid shit like "how can poor little me fight any of you" to lower the guards of any retards from the other Universes like Roshi before transforming and knocking a bunch of them out in one go.

Toyble interview.

Q: Tell us something about the upcoming Dragon Ball Super arc.

A: I can only say this: do not think you already know the definitive teams for the upcoming Tournament of Power. Even if they have been already revealed”.

----

For the looks of it, Buu is done in this arc.

Yamcha about to become relevant again.

>>156711513
What the fuck makes you think Yamcha will replace Buu? There is no evidence for that at all.

>>156699417
They see more of Toriyama's work. No one cares about Toyatoro, just that he works closer to Toriyama than the anime

>>156711550

Yamcha wants to join in, Trunks and Goten will take care of 17 Island.

Of course there are other replacements like Jaco

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How shit are U6 Saiyans if this guy is one of their strongest?

>>156711616
Your high, anon. Yamcha was the only fighter in the entire series who outright retires, and he should stay that way.

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>>156711645
pretty sure he explains U6 saiyans are pretty shit the second we fucking meet him. Remember how Vegeta had to show him "Saiyan Pride" and all that shit?

does everyone on this shitty board just "discuss" shit clearly explained outright in the story or fucking what

>>156711729
yes

>>156711645
Meh, not that shit
I mean, up until roughly 17 years prior, cabba would have been leagues stronger than u7 saiyans.
I figured he was probably on par with gohans pre rosat level, which was likely the highest non ss level we saw, and that was only about 12 years ago.
Now that he went ss, he's probably creeping up towards semi perfect cell level.

>>156711789
>semi perfect cell
>half a major villain from four sagas ago
He's shit

Q: I've heard Toriyama has a direct role into your work, right?

T: Not only mine: he supervises every storyboard related to the Dragon Ball universe.

So Toriyama supervises the anime storyboards?

So when are we going to see something from a universe not numbered 6 or 7?

>>156711915
At least rewrite the post slightly if you're gonna post both on /a/ and Kanzenshuu.

>>156711915
>So Toriyama supervises the anime storyboards?
Nah


http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

>>156692212
bet your hand on it?

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>>156711680
>he's smaller than Goten and Trunk
lmao

>>156711840
U7 has only produced 2 full blood saiyans stronger than cabba.
Why is he shit, especially considering that at the time he became a ss, u7 only had four mortals stronger than him.

>>156711915
I really doubt Toriyama supervises shit like the Dragon Ball Heroes manga and the like.

>>156712007
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
If only

>>156711989
Why?

>>156712026
He's comparable to future trunks at 14
Also... Do we have any idea how old he is?
The way they talk about him and cauli, i get the impression he's still quite young. Like, 20 max.

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>>156692779
Holy shit how did I never thought of that myself
Wtf

>>156712044
U7 only has 2 full blood Saiyans period

>>156711729
He later on claimed that the Saiyan King from U6 was similar to Vegeta in pride and strength.

Although, considering the manga, that seemed to be just an anime-only line, which is why now this supposed Saiyan King won't be relevant for the new U6 team's formation.

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>>156712271
>He later on claimed that the Saiyan King from U6 was similar to Vegeta in pride and strength.
Can't wait to see if Toei got ahead of themselves again.

>>156712271
I actually only read the manga so I might've jumped the gun on the patronizing a bit

>>156712044
Every single Saiyan we've met capable of SSJ1 can kick his ass. He's shit

cool character though

>>156712375

He was still a dick toward Goku despite Vados telling him and the other Hakaishins that Goku tried to save them.

>>156712489
>He was still a dick toward Toei Goku
Yeah and?

>>156712442
>Every single Saiyan we've met capable of SSJ1 can kick his ass
Both in the anime and manga, base Cabba is equal to base Vegeta. Base Vegeta>>>SS3 Gotenks in the anime.

>>156712375
Isn't the Clown GoD a good guy aswell?

>>156712267
three, you forgot Tarble

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>>156712175
In height only. Muscle wise, he's nothing compared to 14 year old Trunks and Gohan.

>>156712581

He is only violent toward evil people(Like Toppo).

Helles is violent toward ugly ningen.

Quitela has a grudge with Beerus

>>156712545
>Base Vegeta>>>SS3
Where the fuck does this come from?
I skipped super during the movie retelling, so I'm presuming it's in there, but it still makes no sense.
That implies new base vegeta would be enough to take on super buu.

>>156712686
Dumb anime only filler arc.

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>>156712686
Both Goku and Vegeta have God tier base modes after training with Whis.

>>156712748

I agree, the Copy Vegeta arc is the only dumb arc in the show.

The dub could make it passable though

>>156712779
base form != Saiyan Beyond God

>>156712779
Which was a shit idea and pretty much scrapped for the return of transformations.

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>>156688431
1/3

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>>156712849
2/3

>>156712870
I'm really glad they dropped the whole skinny shit after SSJG.

>>156712545
>Base Cabba is equal to base Vegeta
Are you fucking high

First of all, Copy-Vegeta isn't in the manga, secondly, his power level being on par to Vegeta's is doubtful at best.

>>156712818
Actually, yes it does. Saiyan Beyond God is simply the *new* base form, thus it's not really a form at all. It's literally just SSG without the divine ki

>>156711513

>the big twist for this arc is that one fighter will be replaced

BRAVO TORIYAMA

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>>156712870
3/3

>>156712898
>Grazie
What did he mean by this?

>>156712894
I hope it's Buu, I really want Master Roshi and Tien to fight so badly

>>156712889
Wrong. Base form and Saiyan Beyond God are two different things. SBG is base form while using god ki. Going SSJ in SBG results in SSJB while going SSJ in base form just results in SSJ1. SBG has been replaced in the manga with SSJG itself.

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>>156712828
>pretty much scrapped
But it hasn't

>>156712889
>Base Cabba is equal to base Vegeta
>Are you fucking high
Pay attention dude. Pic related both in the anime and manga

>>156711513
>Gohan's getting replaced by Monaca

>>156712779
>make a filler arc for Gotenks
>oh wait did we say Gotenks? We meant Goku steals the spotlight
Why do they deny letting those kids having anything?

>>156712965
They're slowly making irrelevant characters get spotlight. Krillin gets his turn now.
Maybe the next arc will focus more on Gotenks.

>>156711279
Super Saiyan Make-up

>>156712614
why did gohan and future trunks grow up normally while trunks and especially goten still look like toddlers at a comparable age

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>>156712965
>Why do they deny letting those kids having anything?
Have patience anon.

>>156713022
Late bloomers. Goten is gonna be small until he's past 15 just like Goku.

>>156712889
>Actually, yes it does. Saiyan Beyond God is simply the *new* base form, thus it's not really a form at all. It's literally just SSG without the divine ki
They flat out describe ssb as ss with the power of a ssg.
If the new base was ssg level, they wouldn't be able to power UP to ss anymore. It'd always be blue.
But it's not. Goku being able to reach the ssg power after the power donation wore out was a one off, cause goku always gets power spikes while fighting to protect others.
Ssb is what it took to get up there on the regular.
Another way to look at it is the base form can power up to high level, approaching ssg, but that's not a constant.
Just like kaioken isn't considered a base.

>>156710699 #
It has always existed, but it has been badly explained in the manga and relegated to the Daizenshuus.
Gohan is the poster child of the 3 types of ki.
His rage boosts are bursts of Yuuki that let him be much stronger.
In the Cell Games and the early Buu saga his Yuuki and Shouki were all over the place. In the 25th tournament he wasn't weaker than the Cell Games, he just couldn't access all his power. That's why Goku said if he could just access all his power he couldn't be defeated and why he surpassed Goku after training with the Z Sword after only using it for a few hours.

In the Cell Games and early Buu Saga

SSJ2 Gohan (Yuuki)(Shouki)(Genki)=SSJ2 Goku=SSJ2 Vegeta (Majin)
SSJ2 Vegeta
SSJ2 Gohan (Shouki)(Genki)=Dabura
SSJ2 Gohan (Genki)=Super Perfect Cell
>>156712677 #
...Anonymous
05/03/17(Wed)10:11:58 No.156712677
>>156711859 (You) #
In Super he had been training with Piccolo and only making his body stronger (Genki) but his Shouki was near 0 because his mind was clouded by stress. In the last episode Piccolo's training was focused in removing Gohan doubt and now that Gohan has his Shouki to 100% again, he became much stronger. It also permitted Gohan to achieve his potential unlocked since he now had access to all 3 parts of his power

In Super he had been training with Piccolo and only making his body stronger (Genki) but his Shouki was near 0 because his mind was clouded by stress. In the last episode Piccolo's training was focused in removing Gohan doubt and now that Gohan has his Shouki to 100% again, he became much stronger. It also permitted Gohan to achieve his potential unlocked since he now had access to all 3 parts of his power

>>156712889
Beyond God isn't the new base form idiot. You have to exert god ki tier power to function at that caliber.
Idiots trying to shoehorn in SBG into every multiplier and every calculation by having it part of the base form is retarded and ruins power scaling.
Thankfully Toyo cleared things up.

>>156713078
It's only one kind of ki in DB. Toriyama was smart in keeping it simple.

>>156712965
The real question is why those kids stay the same size

>>156713159
for /ss/

Why did they ditch God form immediately? I really dug skinny Goku.

>>156713224
The manga didn't.

>>156713095
>base form is retarded and ruins power scaling.
Blame Toei for that

>>156712948
>>156713070
Power=/=Godly Ki

Saiyan beyond God (神を超えたサイヤ人, Kami wo koeta Saiya-jin) is an empowered state of being undertaken by Saiyans who achieve the ability to utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form without taking on the appearance of the form.

>Saiyans who achieve the ability to utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form
>base
>form

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Saiyan_beyond_GodIt's the new base form.

Notice how it says to utilize their power while IN base form, as in, they haven't transformed at all.

SSG is simply Saiyan Beyond God with Godly Ki, SSB is SSG with SSJ1.

>>156713095
please see
>>156713290

>>156713248
I like to think God Ki (and Beyond God ki) isn't affected by multipliers the same way as ningen ki.

>>156713290
>this lack of reading comprehension
It's literally base form with god ki. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to go normal SSJ or any of the forms after it since going SSJ with god ki results in SSJB. It's not the new base form. In the manga it's replaced by SSJG once they master it.

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Who would win? SS Rose Trunks or SS Rose Black?

>>156713325
There is no 'Beyond God' ki, it's normal ki.

>>156713290
Obviously they are in base form you idiot, same goes for Kaioken. That doesn't mean their base form is all of a sudden always God tier you retard.
Also resorting to quoting a fan wiki is shit. The very same wiki also states that their ki could be sensed, therefore if's not even real God ki.

>>156713385
The point is it's fucking dumb and it shouldn't rival real God Ki.

>>156713395
>Saiyan beyond God
>That doesn't mean their base form is all of a sudden always God tier
Retard pls

>>156713370
>It's literally base form with god ki
Anon, show me the part in the wiki where it says anything at all about this form possesing divine ki.


It doesn't. SSG is the transformation with divine ki, and SSB is just SSG with SSJ1.


>Although the Saiyans' power level in this state is obtained via the Super Saiyan God form, in the anime the ki of this state is not godly as it is shown in Dragon Ball Super that Goku's ki can still be felt by others in this state.
Similarly in Dragon Ball Fusions, Kid Goku could still feel Goku Black's ki while he was in the same state in Ziku-kan Quest: "Darkness Cometh".

From the article I apparently can't read you fucking idiot

>>156713435
Good thing anime isn't even canon so I don't need to argue with an autist like you.

>>156699417
It's a fucking joke you literal autist
There's not even a need of put that, they could just pretend Beeerus said that out screen, but since he didn't say it in his arc (like it was in the movie) Toyo makes a joke, that's all.

>>156711513
He's saying that universes will team up at some point.

>>156713474
He did nothing wrong, except being erased by Zeno

>>156713430
Ok, that's fine. I agree with that. That doesn't change the fact it does
>>156713395
>Obviously they are in base form you idiot
What the fuck do you mean, that was my whole point. SBG *is* baseform. I don'tcare about anything beyond that

>quoting a fan wiki is shit
it really isn't, what is this place but the shittiest fan wiki ever.
>it's not even real god ki
SBG uses no divine ki...retard.

>>156713474
Shit villain, shit arc

>>156713485
against what?

>>156713444
My mistake on that part.
It's still clearly a different form and not the normal base form, which is stated in the wiki you either can't or chose not to read.

>>156712818
Saiyan beyond form is only in the movie, in the anime Goku just became stronger by meme magic after be SSG and Vegeta just trained a lot

>>156713471
>"Good thing anime isn't even canon"
> Calls someone else an autist

The irony

>>156713564
If you think SBG is the new base form you're the autist.

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Reminder that Gohan was small and cute

>>156713531
I agree
glad that Trunks shilling is gone

>>156713376
Trunks wouldn't be Rose

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Reposting because people don't understand a fucking manganime for kids

>>156713538
other universes.

OR, it could be that one member at random from every universe will be put in another team so to spice up things a bit. They face erasure if they don't cooperate with the new allies.

Source: my fanfics

>>156713531
>Shit villain
Ningen detected

>>156695701
No, any thread is better than another waifufag thread.

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>Vegeta got SSB by fist bumping Goku

>>156713376
the spic that asked this question would win

>>156713370
>its replaced by SSJG

What in the.... no it isn't. SSJG is the first transformation of the series, and the whole reason why Goku and Vegeta can become BEYOND gods in the first place, hence the fucking name.

It's simply, I don't get why you idiots are so confused. For explanation's sake, there will only be one SSJ form

Here is the progression of Goku in Super

>Goku, base
>Goku, SSJ
Goku then performs the ritual, and gains access to godly ki through a transformation
>Goku, SSJG
After the transformation ends, the power level of the form is retained but the godly ki is not. This means Goku has hit a whole new level, and his base form with no transformations is now 'Beyond God'
>SSBG
He also learns to merge SSJ and SSG to make
>SSB
Which is essentially the regular SSJ form with godly ki because SSG is just the addition of godly ki

It's worth noting Godly Ki>Normal Ki

This is seen clearly in Goku's first fight with Hit.

>>156713022
Ask Toriyama.

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>>156703922
no

>>156713552
It's stated clearly in the wiki it is the new base form
> utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form
>in their base form

*In* their base form; as in they don't leave base form to activate SBG, SBG *is* base form.

>>156713753
He specifically stated he's talking about the manga you autist.

>>156713022
>gohan and future trunks grow up normally
Haha
no

>>156713753
SSJG is the first but also only usable at first if they perform the ritual. SBG is obsolete once they learn how to use SSJG without the ritual since SBG's only purpose was to give them access to SSJG's power in a new base form. The anime is retarded and forgot to do this, much less distinguish when they're in their normal base form and SBG, while the manga did what was smart.

Do Gohanfags really think episode 90's "Gohan surpasses Goku again" is gonna stick?

Toriyama loves pandering to fans and most of them are Gokufags.

>>156713022
>Gohan
See the pic from this post: >>156713598

>>156711279
Honestly I doubt it too, but I can see it being the case they're the same if Cabba decides to dress her up and have her act a certain way, knowing they're going to be in front of the all-powerful gods of the multiverse

>>156713802
>When Saiyan beyond God is activated, the user does not suffer from any significant change in his appearance beyond the constant presence of the white aura while he fights
>The existence of this form was first hinted
>form
>Goku obtains this state by taking on and then dropping out of Super Saiyan God yet was able to access part of the power without a physical change.[3][4] Additionally a Saiyan who has become a "Saiyan beyond God" can eventually further transform into a Super Saiyan Blue once they have mastered control over their ki
Read past the first fucking paragraph. It's clearly a different form to the normal base form.

>>156713648
As this anon >>156713290
Thank you, fucking thank you. Also, I'm a manga reader, that's the chart I've been following. Well, I didn't need a fucking chart because I'm not autistic but still thank you
>>156713558
Jesus Christ no it isn't

>>156713891
U responded to wrong anon

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>>156713598
you're right
I miss skinny Gohan
ultimate Gohan looks too much like Goku on the body build

>>156713891
It's referred to as a 'state' through the rest of the entire article, (and in the opening paragraph) it's only referred to as a 'form' because in the sentence's context because it is before the true nature of it was revealed hence the "first hinted at" bit.

Why don't *you* read the whole fucking thing? Literally, though, it's referred to as a 'state' in the rest of the article for a reason

>>156713531
Plebest Opinion Ever™

>>156714028
Form and state are synonymous so your argument is just semantics. It's not the base form.

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>>156713531
I-I'm too d-deep4u!!!

>>156714028
Either way it's not "the new base form" you mongoloid.
Did you think Goku using Kaioken for brief moments also "the new base form"??

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>>156688431
>saiyan delinquent girl

My dick is so hard right now it hurts

>>156692779

need a visual of this....for research purposes.

>>156713891
This is basic English. It says "utilize the power in their base form"....

If SBG isn't the base form, then how are you supposed to utilize the god power in it? A SBG is someone *in their base form*, thus SBG *is* the new base form. Goku and Vegeta don't need to activate or transform to reach this state, they are always this way.

SBG isn't the name of a transformation, it's the name of an empowered state Goku and Vegeta reach. It's an *upgrade* to their base form, not a whole new form.

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Interviewer:
> Will Goku be able to transform into [Super Saiyan] God in the future?

Toriyama:
> Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God.

After absorbing SSG, Goku's base became "Saiyan Beyond God". That's why SS1 (Saiyan Beyond God) Goku was able to keep up with 70% Beerus for a while. SSB is simply going SS with SSG's power (god ki).

However (SBG) SS1 Goku vs Beerus, and the Champa Arc confirmed that they can control god ki at will, and don't necessarily have it activated all the time. Which is why SS1 - SS3 is still possible.

This is why the anime doesn't have Goku transform into SSG after BoG.

Toyotaro retconned SSG, so in the manga Goku/Vegeta still transform into SSG and there seems to be no such thing as Saiyan Beyond God in the manga continuity.

>>156714227
>If I refuse to acknowledge the rest of the wiki which continuously refers to it as a new form or state then that means I'm right
It's not their normal base form. It's its own thing. Get this through your thick protruding forehead.

>>156714091
>>156714091
No they aren't.
https://www.google.com/search?q=form+define&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&oq=form+define&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1272j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=state+define&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS702US702&oq=state+define+&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3850j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

State - the particular condition that someone or something is in at a specific time.

Form - the visible shape or configuration of something.

>>156699417
Beerus a cute.

>>156703602
Yes, if only to see U6 saiyans shenanigans as space saviors for hire.

>>156711954
Pretty sure we saw some of U11 a few weeks ago. Still, I'd be up for more, especially the other universes they've not touched upon yet.

It's weird how Helles was designed by both Toriyama and Toyotaro which would kind of imply she'd have some relevance yet there hasn't been as much focus on her universe. And I guess kinda the same could be said for Quitela who was designed by Toriyama alone and has even been given a grudge against Beerus, but there hasn't been anything much on his universe either.

>Broly reveal and Caulifla reveal are extremely similar
>only one LSSJ can exist in a universe at any given time
>BUT THEY DIFFERENT GUISE, MY DEMURE PURE DANDERE WAIFU DOES NOT EAT MEAT RIGHT OFF THE ONE REEEE

what if they do the ritual for trunks and Goten to achieve god mode and then they do the fusion and merge into godtenks? man that'd be cool as hell

>>156714227
The point is that it's still seperate state than base form.
Like you said it's an "empowered state", I don't know how you jumped to the conclusion that it's an upgrade to base form and how it's "the new base form"
Just accept the fact it can toggled on and off and that is why it has it's own categorization instead of just referred to as base form.

>>156713596

See:
>>156714232

>>156714294
It doesn't matter who designed which god for them to be relevant. It's not like this is the last arc

>>156714291
Those are literally the same thing or is english not your first language and you can't process that they are the same thing?

>>156714232
I know the manga skipped some parts of BoG, but was SS1 Goku keeping up with 70% Beerus in the manga?

If so, Toyo seems to have contradicted himself

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>>156699417
Dyspo is that you?

>>156714430
That post clearly states you can toggle SBG ki on and off retard.
That's not the same as "the base form"

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>>156714508

>>156713808
So am I you complete retard
>>156713841
SSJG is literally just SBG with Godly Ki, SBG is by definition base form with the power of SSJG, the only reason SSJG is better is because for unknown reasons godly ki is simply superior to ningen ki. Goku and Vegeta never leave SBG once they attain it, they only ever further transform to SSJG and SSJB.

Look at these panels. Whis stops the "transformtions prohibite" match when they turn SSB, BUT the whole match is in SBG. So, SBG is *not* a transformation.

Can we stop this ridiculousness no? SBG *is* base form.

>>156714501
Are you stupid or something? He didn't skipped that, it simply never happened, isn't canon anymore.
What's contradicting?

>>156714501
No he fights to the end as SSG

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>>156714556
forgot the panels

>>156714430
This god shit makes no sense? Why would a simple ningen be able to become a god just doing a fucking ritual? there should be some backstory for this instead of "lel le epic god of destruction came and told us how to do it XDD"

>>156713370
Goku still has Super Saiyan in all 3 versions of Battle of Gods after Super Saiyan God runs out, and as Beerus notes, even though the god form has run out, his power level has not dropped. Super Saiyan Blue is a different form entirely.

>>156714475
I want to believe.

>>156714621
so basically he just changed his hair from red to yellow and his eyes to blue?

>>156714526
No you fucking can't.There is no SBG ki, it says very clearly SBG is just base form with the power of SSG, but NOT the ki.

>Saiyan beyond God (神を超えたサイヤ人, Kami wo koeta Saiya-jin) is an empowered state of being undertaken by Saiyans who achieve the ability to utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form without taking on the appearance of the form
>Although the Saiyans' power level in this state is obtained via the Super Saiyan God form, in the anime the ki of this state is not godly as it is shown in Dragon Ball Super that Goku's ki can still be felt by others in this state.

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>>156712955
Monaka and Vermonth are voiced by the same guy that voiced Baki.

>>156714587
>Why would a simple ningen be able to become a god just doing a fucking ritual?
Well blame Toriyama then and be grateful to Toyo because in the manga Goku and Vegeta only showed the capacity to become SSG (and SSB) at will after a year of training with an angel, ritual's SSG seems to be temporal.

>>156714587
It takes six pure-hearted saiyans, saiyans being a notoriously evil race. If it was easy to do, there'd be more than one instance of it happening before Goku.

>>156714587
>This god shit makes no sense? Why would a simple ningen be able to become a god just doing a fucking ritual?

It' supposed to be temporary.

Beerus called Goku a genius because his body "remembered" how SSG felt, and so Goku retained the god ki and became Saiyan Beyond God.

A normal Saiyan doing the ritual doesn't keep the SSG power.

>>156714667
Call it whatever you want autist, the point is that clearly that white aura power boost is not "the new base form" and passively activate 24/7.

>>156714657
Pretty much. It's ki control training with Whis that leads to Super Saiyan Blue

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reposting this

>"SBG" = SSG in base form
>SSG power (SBG in movies, SSG itself in manga) + SS = SSGSS

>>156714682
You're dumb. They can do it at will any time after the ritual, you don't need to perform the ritual every single time to transform, just the one time. Training with whis allowed them access to SSB, because they had mastered SSJG and became SBG.

>>156714556
>SSJG is literally just SBG with Godly Ki
Wrong. SSJG is also stronger. SBG does give them full access to its power.
>Goku and Vegeta never leave SBG once they attain it
Yes, they do. They have to activate it just like any other form, otherwise they would not be able to go SSJ1, SSJ2, or SSJ3 at any point after learning how to go SBG.
Kaioken is not a new form but it certainly isn't base form. The same logic applies to SBG. SBG is not the normal base form. Both the wiki and logic show this to be true, redditor.

>>156714682
the first two dragon balls (Z and db) were so great, why is Toriyama ruining this new one? the battles last a fucking episode, this is a joke , I don't know why faggots complained about dbz pace, I loved it. if super was dbz we'd still be in the first arc, and instead we have shitty arcs that last 25 episodes.

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>>156714682
>be grateful to Toyo because in the manga Goku and Vegeta only showed the capacity to become SSG (and SSB) at will after a year of training with an angel
> after a year of training with an angel

That was anime-only

>>156714759
SBG doesn't*

>>156714798
Except they trained with Whis in the manga too and they don't have SSG power in the anime

>>156714753
>SSG power (SBG in movies, SSG itself in manga) + SS = SSGSS

You mean movies AND anime

Wonder if Toyo retconned this on purpose or just forgot?

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>>156713029
Soon!

>>156714757
>You're dumb.
>irony.jpg

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There can never be enough Cabba bullying

>>156714818
>Except they trained with Whis in the manga too

It didn't show a "year of training". Only casually training with Whis for a bit

And that was at the beginning of the Champa Arc, so they already had SSB

>>156714835
>Vegeta having SSG power
>anime
Try again

>>156714728
Yes, it is. I don't know what else to provide to you, it's clearly the new base form.

>White Aura power boost
Jesus Christ

Yes, SBG is a power boost. No, that doesn't make it a transformation. SBG is base form with the power, but not the ki, of SSG. It's just an upgraded base form. As in,Goku and Vegeta do no need to activate anything or perform any techniques to access SBG, they *are* Saiyans beyond God.

Look at this post >>156713337
That is literally Goku, in base form, with the power of SSG. That *is* SBG,albeit very incomplete.

>>156711782
Left: Toyo
Right: Toriyama

>>156714888
I'm talking about how SSB (SSGSS) works. Same in the anime and movies. The SSG retcon only exists in the manga.

Also Vegeta was training with Whis 6 months earlier than Goku, so he got plenty of Angel training.

He was also able to sense god ki before Goku arrived, so it's possible he got SSG's power off-screen during those 6 months.

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>>156714930
>That is literally Goku, in base form, with the power of SSG
>pic is him in SSJ1

Too much headcanon in this thread

>>156692212
>>156712013
has he returned?

>>156714759
>Wrong. SSJG is also stronger. SBG does give them full access to its power.
Read my whole post you fucking idiot, I literally say that.
>Yes, they do. They have to activate it just like any other form, otherwise they would not be able to go SSJ1, SSJ2, or SSJ3 at any point after learning how to go SBG.
Kaioken is not a new form but it certainly isn't base form. The same logic applies to SBG. SBG is not the normal base form. Both the wiki and logic show this to be true, redditor.
Show me on fucking panel of them "activating" SBG. Also, why the fuck can't they still go SSJ? You do realize they are SSJG and SSJ at the same time when they are SSB.... so what is stopping them from going SSJ1 in SBG? There is literal no information anywhere that says they can't.

>>156714584
In these panels, Goku and Vegeta are sparring, in SGB, in a no transformations match.


http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Up
No,the wiki does not agree with you anon. Kaio-Ken is classified as a power up, but SBG is not, because it isn't. It's merely a permanent state achieved through training.

>>156714930
Goku having temporary residual ritual powers is not a good example of "Beyond God" base form.
In RoF where it actually became a thing you can clearly tell they're emitting a white flaming aura.
Do you think this white aura is activate 24/7? No and so it's not "their new base form" ya dingus.

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>>156711782
Why is Cabba muscular on the right?

Toriyama's Cabba is clearly not muscular.

>>156714930
>That is literally Goku, in base form
So Goku is actually blonde and blue eyed with a golden aura? This one is new to me.

>>156715046
SBG is just a base form, he doesn't "leave" it when he transforms, yes he is at SSJ1, but Beerus clearly explains he has the power of SSJG still.

>>156715019
Are you retarded?

>>156715142
Jesus Christ are we really going to argue semantics too?

>>156715117
Ohmyfuckinggod

They don't emit an aura involuntarily you retard, there's dozens of examples of SSJ's with no aura. You create the aura by focusing your ki, you'd know that if you understood what you were talking about.

>>156715184
Nigger, base form is black haired Goku without being transformed. That's what base Goku is. Get a grip, yer fucken cunt.

Show me the damn panel where Goku and Vegeta "transform" into SBG.

You can't. It doesn't exist, because there is no transformation, because SBG is just the new base form of Goku and Vegeta.

>>156715173
I think he means Toyo's draws everything too skinny and doesn't know how to muscle mass like Toriyama

>>156715226
The point is that you have no evidence of SBG replacing base form.
Clearly it's best described as a state to you can invoke, this helps keep power levels and logic more consistent.
If you think base Goku always operates at God tier power you're beyond help.
In b4 "h-he's just holding back!"

Why did everyone forget about our guy Monaka, the strongest Universe 7 character?

>>156715327
Toyo needs some anatomy classes.

>>156715241
Nigger, I guess we are. the new base form is SBG, and Beerus clearly explains in those screens that Goku has retained the powers of SSJG. That was what I was referring too, not specifically his looks you damn strawman.

>>156715104
>Also, why the fuck can't they still go SSJ?
Because going SSJ in SBG results in SSJB. If SBG is the new base form and always active as such, then they would not be able to ever go normal SSJ ever again since it can't be turned on or off by your logic. The manga and the wiki literally states going SSJ in SBG results in SSJB, not SSJ1.
It's not a permanent state. It's not their base form. It's a state they have to willingly go into. This is fact.
>>156715146
>doesn't leave base form yet transforms, meaning he's not in his base form
I fucking swear to god you retards are as stubborn as you are stupid.

>>156715358
Monaka is a mortal with normal power, Beerus used him to give motivation to fight and lied about his power.

>>156715327
>>156715367
>Toyo draws them too skinny
He literally drew him muscular there on the right.

>>156688431
>Japanese "delinquent"
I knew canon female Super Saiyans were too good to be true, they're going to be trash

>>156715358
He's nursing a knee injury

>>156715354
I DO have evidence you fucking pile of shit
HERE LET ME LINK TO IT A THIRD TIME
>>156714584
>>156714584
>>156714584
>>156714584
Notice how Goku and Vegeta are sparring in a "Transformations Prohibited" match, yet Whis doesn't say anything until SSB is used.

Dumbass.

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>>156715121

Fucking hell. This is like looking at a Tobal #1 character artwork sheets now.

Why are Toriyama's designs always so traditional and basic?

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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!

>>156715458
That's not proof, just because SBG isn't a transformation doesn't make it their "new base form" you autistic fuck.

>>156715458
The no transformations rule is clearly referring to SSJG and SSJB, you dull faggot. He's wanting them to train their SBG base forms so that their SSJB form is more efficient and powerful.

Saiyan Beyond God only existed in the RoF movie.

In Super, Goku and Vegeta base forms are not even close to SSG in power. That doesn't mean that their base forms are close to their Buu saga power either. You know who could defeat SSJ3 Gotenks while in base but without being SSG level?.
Vegito, that's who you should compare Goku and Vegeta

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>>156715458
Calm down buddy, you're freaking out on an anime board.

>>156715358
Goku remembered at least.

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>>156715397
What are you talking about dude.

SSG=/=SBG. SSG is SBG with godly ki.
SSB is SSJ with godly ki
SBG is just the base form.
thus

SBG+SSJ=SSJ, not SSB. SSB *requires* godly ki, something SBG does not have.

>The manga and the wiki literally states going SSJ in SBG
No,it definitely does not. It says clearly, SSB is
>"Saiyan who has the power of Super Saiyan God, then proceeds to transform into a Super Saiyan".
As in, a SSG who then transforms into a SSJ, While it is worded poorly, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what they meant.

Anon, if this were true, then the second Goku became SSG he'd never be able to become SSJ again... but he does.

Why would they not be able to go regular SSJ in SBG? That makes no sense.

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>>156715570
>freaking out
>because of CAPS LOCK

IT'S JUST FOR EMPHASIS

I can't say how relieved I am that others in this thread are calling out Super for being the complete clusterfuck it is.

Every goddamn episode, some completely unnecessary inconsistency or character-derailing moment is thrown in for shits and giggles. It feels like Toei and/or Toriyama are TRYING to shit on their own series.

Power scaling is all over the damn place, you literally can't even make a solid guess on how strong half the cast is. Piccolo and Frieza get some of the most ridiculous boosts in the entire series. "But if Frieza did it, why can't anyone!?"

Goku becomes a completely unbearable cunt with no personality aside from annoying fight junkie, and suddenly, "muh original japanese goku, not meant to be a hero"

He's always been a flawed dipshit, but in the original manga, he showed plenty of examples of wanting to defend others. Flawed judgement/bad decisions=/=complete apathy

All I want to do is punch DBS Goku in the goddamn face, but he'd probably love that, too.

And that's just the tip of the goddamn iceberg.

>inb4 GT

It's shit, too. But I'll give it one thing, its characters didn't look like cardboard cutouts in every other shot.

>>156715700
That quote is from Toriyama regarding SBG see here:>>156714753
That "godly power" Tori is referring to is literally that internal God Ki like essence, not SSG (which didn't appear in RoF)

>>156715700
The RoF manga AND movie state that SBG + SSJ = SSJB retard. Get it fucking right.
Even with your quote from the wiki, it says that SBG has the power of SSJG, meaning that it fulfills the requirements of that quote and thus causes SSJB if they go SSJ during it.
>but he does
Because SBG is its own thing separate from their base form. It does not logically work if it is their new base form. Period.

>>156715506
It was clearly referring to all and every transformation, if SBG was a transformation, Whis wouldn't have called it a 'Transformations Prohibited" match, would he?

> He's wanting them to train their SBG base forms so that their SSJB form is more efficient and powerful.

No, he wanted them to train in their base forms , which is SBG, so that SSB could be more powerful.

By your logic, Whis would just have them train in the regular base forms, not their SBG ones.

However, your logic is wrong, anyway. SBG is base form.

>>156715866
>It was clearly referring to all and every transformation, if SBG was a transformation, Whis wouldn't have called it a 'Transformations Prohibited" match, would he?
Nice headcanon. You're the one arguing that it was a state, not a form and that those two things were different things to begin with weren't you? :^)
>he wanted them to train in their base forms , which is SBG
Wrong. Training their normal base forms would do nothing for the SSJB form. They were obviously training their SBG state.
>However, your logic is wrong, anyway. SBG is base form.
My logic is correct and nothing you have said has proven anything about it wrong. SBG is not base form, redditor.

Goku is beyond god level all the time guys! It's just that he's holding back! xD

DBS threads are the most autistic on /a/ and that is saying something

>>156715827
>>156715825
Again, anons, show me the fucking panel where Goku and/or Vegeta "activate" their SBG form, or show me them leaving it.

You fucking can't. There isn't one.

Also, if SBG+SSJ=SSB.... where the fuck does the divine ki come from?

In the manga, Vegeta transfroms from SSG into SSB multiple times.

I still stand by that SSB is SSG+SSJ, not SBG+SSJ. One needs to become a SBG to be able to retain the strength, but the form itself is SSG+SSJ, otherwise SSB would have no divine ki

>>156716075
How new are you?

>>156715965
>not a form and that those two things were different things to begin with weren't you? :
Are we really going back to semantics, Yes, technically it is a state not a transformation, however my argument was merely to prove SBG isn't activated or called upon.

>training their normal base forms would do nothing for the SSJB form
Um, why? If this is true than it would do nothing to train in SBG, too.

>>156716220
There is no visual difference, you autist. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
>where the fuck does the divine ki come from?
It comes out in SSJB. God ki is not required for the SSJB transformation, only the power of SSJG, which SBG has.
>but the form itself is SSG+SSJ
Then explain how they went from SBG to SSJB in RoF. Oh wait, you can't because you're wrong. BTFO

>>156716220
Too bad for you Toriyama's words >>>>>>> a Wiki fun fact based on Toei's fuck up.

>>156716308
>If this is true than it would do nothing to train in SBG, too
Flawed logic. The better they learn to control their ki in SBG, the stronger SSJB gets.

>>156715827
Woah woah, wait a minute, you said Goku can not become SSJ once he become SBG, but here
>>156713337
you're clearly wrong

>>156716388
SSJB still requires ki control, which Goku doesn't have that early on.

>>156716363
But SSJB doesn't use ningen ki, retard

The train at base form, SBG, so SSJB won't be a crutch.

>>156716437
That doesn't change the fact that's Goku, as SSJ, with the power of a SSG. That means SBG can still be SSJ, as SBG is defined as base form with the power of a Super Saiyan God

>>156716567
And? Ki control is a requirement for the form. Better ki control = better SSJB
They train at SBG since it is the state they have to be at in order to go SSJB, which isn't the base form.
>>156716615
Which is just a shittier SBG and in no way means that SBG can still be SSJ.
>SBG is defined as base form with the power of a Super Saiyan God
Which makes it its own thing. I'm done trying to explain these facts to you stubborn turboautists.

>>156716567
Toriyama described the original SBG as god like power without transformation.
The only ningen quality about it is the fact that Goku's ki was sensible (anime only fact)

>>156716321
>Then explain how they went from SBG to SSJB
The same way Gotenks skips SSJ2, herp derp

>it comes out in SSJB
How? Why? Where is the evidence? What the hell is the point of SSJG at all, then?
If this were true, than Vegeta wouldn't be able to go SSJG>SSJB,but he does.

>>156711671

Jaco is the other logical replacement.

>>156716731
>The same way Gotenks skips SSJ2
Nice dodge, fuckface. You said SSJB = SSJG + SSJ but they couldn't go SSJG in RoF, so explain. Oh wait, you can't. Once again BTFO.
>What the hell is the point of SSJG at all, then?
SSJG is stronger than SBG.

>>156716700
I never said it wasn't it's own thing, just that is the current new base. It's define as BASE FORM with the power of god. As in, it's *still* his base form, but now as powerful as a god without the ki.

Kaio-Ken isn't defined as such, Goku doesn't retain the powers of Kaio-Ken when he goes back to base form.

It's like a potential-unlock, it sticks with the person. It's a permanent upgrade.

>>156716890
Wrong. It's a state that has to be gone to in order to go SSJB. They can choose not to use SBG in order to go normal SSJ. I wonder when you autists will stop arguing against this fact.

>>156716818
>Nice dodge
I wasn't dodging anything. I answered it perfectly.

>they couldn't go SSJG in RoF
What the fuck, yes they could, they simply chose not to.

It's really not hard to figure out, they simply skip over SSJG the same way Gotenks skips over SSJ2. When they transform, they activate both their godly ki (thus SSJG) and SSJ, at the same time

Again, Vegeta and Goku transform from SSJG to SSJB all the time.

>>156716933
WRONG

>Saiyan beyond God (神を超えたサイヤ人, Kami wo koeta Saiya-jin) is an empowered state of being undertaken by Saiyans who achieve the ability to utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form without taking on the appearance of the form.
>the ability to utilize the power of Super Saiyan God in their base form

You can't be *in* your base form and also have SBG be another state. SBG is an upgraded Base Form.

>They can choose not to use SBG in order to go normal SSJ
WRONG
>>156713337
SSJ Goku, while in SBG.

>>156711513
Please, give us a Goku+Krilin+Yamcha+Roshi team attack

Nobody cares about le funny bubblegum

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>>156711513
>The Yamcha scene wasn't a joke, it was foreshadowing

>>156711645
each universe will probably have at least 1 or 2 guys on Goku/Vegeta levels
11 has Jiren and Toppo
6 has Hit and Cauli.
9 has blue dog and we'll be lucky if we see someone half as strong as him

>>156717207

I wonder what Universe is teletubbie from, the VJump Magazine was hyping her to be Blue level.

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>Q: I've heard Toriyama has a direct role into your work, right?

>Toyotaro: Not only mine: he supervises every storyboard related to the Dragon Ball universe.

>>156717380
>Q: How do you get from being a Dragon Ball fan to receiving one of the heaviest legacies in the history of Japanese manga?

>T: Never changing what you feel for the franchise, which is love for me; this feeling ties me with Dragon Ball since I was a little kid. Quite different is the responsibility, at least the one I personally feel: Today, my job reaches the (numerous) fans, leaving them a message. I don't want to betray them; I work very hard to keep intact the original charm of the franchise.

>Q: Doesn't this leave you in an "expressive cage"?

>T: If not disappointing the audience was the only goal, there would be less two more, just as important to me: having fun and being fun. My work is to give that feel to every page, and this doesn't give me limits to personal expressivity and creativiy.

>Q: Some time ago, he said you are the most faithful mangaka to his work and style. He even said that you, today, have a dynamism that he claims to have lost; he prompted you to express freely, stating that he would be very curious about the final result. How did you take it?

>T: Letting me go. And even if, for a fan like me, it feels great to have Toriyama's approvation on more traditional drawings, some of my greatest satisfactions stem from seeing him approve my original ideas: new moves, new expressions. And something else, in the future.

Guys, it's explained SSB is basically SSG and SSJ fused together into one transformation,which is only accessible by SBG

>>156717437
>Q: From the beginning of the Universal Survival arc, you have become a character designer for Super. How did you work on those characters, and how do you relate to such recognizable figures?

>T: It was an heavy work, especially creating the new Gods of Destruction. For those who didn't know it, it is good to explain that contrary to the name, the gods are not, from a narrative point of view, heroes' enemies, and for this reason they can't have too much emphasis. Still, they needed to be charismatic and dignified figures. Balancing these needs is what took me longer to express. In addition, it is through their very marked characterization and differences between the characters that I have tried to express the vastness of the Universe. And our universe is really large. It is, in general, with this attention that I approach the characters of Dragon Ball. Their traits express worlds.

>Q: Do you know or follow Western comics?

>T: More than comics, I appreciate Disney's working style and their way of planning stories with not only multimedia, but also crossmedia approach. That's why, among their productions, the one that impresses me most is Star Wars.

>Q: Dragon Ball has been an ante litteram example also for this: its universe was told on paper, later on tv, and with a huge amount of videogames, merchandise and related works.

>T: What I call media-mix is certainly an effective strategy. Not only because it gives the opportunity to expand the narrative universes, but also because it intercepts a growing number of fans and brings them from platform to platform. How can I not be pleased by something that can increase people who follow my job?

>Q: Does this change your way of drawing or scripting Dragon Ball Super?

>T: No. My priority is the manga. I can't say to be influenced by so many expressive channels, or by how the manga will be adapted later.

>>156717378
I wouldn't be surprised if she's from Universe 2.

>>156717437
>And something else, in the future

As soon as he read this, Toriyama had an outburst of raughs. 'Oh, the fool boy', he thought, amused, 'He thinks he'll ever be free from Dragon Ball stuff'.

>>156717526
>Q: By the way, do you know some italian authors?

>T: Actually no one before coming to Naples; in these days I've met Zerocalcare, Roberto Recchioni, Giacomo Bevilacqua, Sio, Mirka Andolfi and Riccardo Ferri. They gifted me their comic books, which I'm reading right now, and I really like them.

>Q: What's the biggest difference between your approach to work and the italians' one?

>T: I felt that in Italy a great deal of attention is paid to the beauty of the image, the figurative elegance, the composition of the boards. It must be your famous artistic background: as in many other things you do, you will perceive a strong aesthetic sensibility. In Japan, it is not to be ruled out that a mediocre designer becomes famous: if the story he's telling is good, he will find many readers ready to read it, regardless of the drawings.

>Q: Is there a Japanese manga that you're currently liking?

>T: My Hero Academia, without a doubt.

>Q: Tell us something about the upcoming Dragon Ball Super arc.

>A: I can only say this: do not think you already know the definitive teams for the upcoming Tournament of Power. Even if they have been already revealed.

>>156699301
Thanks so much anon

>>156703922
Dude, Caulifia has the same naming pattern as Broly. Either she is Brolyna, or we will get two legendary super saiyan females to catfight

>>156715327
>>156715367

Im not sure if you're baiting, but Toyo is the one at the right.

>>156715484
The sountrack of that game is still one my favorites.

>>156717625
>or we will get two legendary super saiyan females to catfight
I don't think my dick would be able to handle such a thing.

>>156711645
Well, to be fair him being one of the strongest makes sense. He must have spent his whole life training, to the point his base form is on pair with Vegeta's.

Like, that's pretty damn impressive considering this is post-Buu. His universe's Saiyans also never experienced the rage of our universe's and there's also the fact Super Saiyan was a legend here till like 3 purebloods (counting Broly) reached it and their 3 descendants. It's a small number for a whole species and they were violent as fuck in Universe 7.

I'd say Cabba is pretty strong, though Caulifa will be far stronger, maybe Blue level. And hopefully she will have a crush on Cabba and keep staring at his booty

>>156717625
I just don't understand why the girl in the OP and i nthe previews shown going into femBroly has such a drastic design change if she is actually Caulifla.

Add to that fact that She's not even shown with U6's team, but with the Pride Troopers.

>>156717785
My dick would gain its own aura at the thought of two LSSJ amazons wrestling.

Shiiiet, I think a couple fighters would stop to just observe the whole thing, I know I would

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>>156717871
Universe 11 doesn't have Super Saiyans, anon. The arrangement in the intro means nothing.

>>156717871
The pride troopers also had another character unrelated to them in the opening though.

Also, the possibility of Caulifa wearing more formal clothes or masquerading her personality for reasons is still valid. Like, knowing DBS, she could just fall for Cabba the moment her eyes lie on him and try to pass off as a shy pure maiden to win his heart till people get in her way and goes full MY POWER LEVEL IS MAXIMUM on them.

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>>156717897
>master roshi stops fighting just to gaze and do his pervy laugh
>gets eliminated for not concentrating on the fight

>>156717785
>>156717897
I just want them to pull each other's hair and rip each other's clothes. But damn, two of those fighting each other is HOT

>>156717987
Who? All the members of the Pride Troopers were shown together in the OP and femBroly was shown with them.

But the OP placement probably doesn't mean anything. They just did that just cuz.

>>156717802
Does Cabba even have a booty?

>>156717207
how do you know blue dog is so strong and is from u9?

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How do you feel knowing that this will NEVER EVER happen again because Toriyama got sick of tails?

>>156718132
They probably mean Bergamo

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>>156718137
I'm okay with it.

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>>156717994

>>156717994
Would Roshi even be interested in a muscle beast? He seems more the supermodel type.

>>156718085
Yeah, I mistook Bunneerus for Hit in there

>>156718265
It would be more of a >>156718029
>pull each other's hair and rip each other's clothes
moment.

>>156718137
There's not really anything that separates Saiyans from Humans except one has a million transformations and the other has been forgotten.

>>156718265
Anon, who wouldn't be interested in two ripped raging beefcakes punching each other?

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>>156717785
>yfw it's like the last fight of Kamen rider Amazons Season 1
>both of them scream, go LSSJ and fight each other viciously

If Naoki Tate animates that fight, it could be the best fight in Super as a whole.

>>156718137
pretty good

>>156717871
>a drastic design change

Anon, take Caulli, slap some lipstick and give her a ponytail. That's it.

She might be pretending to be a shy, delicate flower for reasons, probably to get close to Cabba, but that kind of fake attitude seems to be something that will not last much anyway.

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>>156718312
anon pls

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>>156718305
I agree anon. I watch DB for the beefcakes.

>>156718093
For Caulifla's hungry lust, yes.

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>>156718357
Cauli might have a girlish streak and like to dress up. It's not the first time we've seen a fighty tomboy do that.

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>>156717987
if anything. Cabba already seems to know her.
So. She might indeed drop the punk act to impress him

>>156718137
Disappointed.

Design wise, if they are supposed to be aliens, better keep that one trait that makes them look like one.

>>156718445
holy shit Gohan is cute

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>>156718357
>That's it.
No. She doesn't have as much hair as Cauli does. She only has one bang. She has a pony tail. She's wearing lipstick and earrings. She's taller, and has a completely different outfit.

One is meek, the other is barbaric.
The only thing alike about them is their eyes, and that's only because Toyo and Toriyama can't into different eye colors.

Fuck off you delusional bitches

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>>156718538
Left still seems punkish to me. She's just Saiyan Momo.

I think they just re-wrote her character after the PV was made, like Jiren being at the ToP. This girlish attitude hasn't appeared in anything since that.

So based on Piccolo's performance against SSJ2 Gohan (not seeming to really over-power him but was able to out-maneuver and strangle him), how strong would you say he is now? Dabura/Super Perfect Cell tier? Think he and 17 are still on par with each other?

>>156718617
>ToP
Obviously I meant the Exhibition matches

>>156718538
Great. She had a childhood crush on him, but manifested it by bullying him, hence why she is afraid to meet her. When in turn, she actually likes him and will try to pass of as a damsel

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>>156718614
>No. She doesn't have as much hair as Cauli does. She only has one bang

Hair ties are a thing that Saiyans know about, anon. Her brother wears one that just happens to be the same color. And when her hair comes loose from that ponytail during the transformation, she has a shitload of it AND it's spiky.

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>>156718417
>LSSJ Cauli decides to go after LSSJ Brolyna's teammates
>Manages to punt one of them into the void probably the Beerus lookalike
>LSSJ Brolyna goes apeshit with rage and begins to beat back LSSJ Cauli with a Dino Crisis style OST playing in the background

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>Joked about two LSSJ females catfighting
>Now that the anons fantasized about it further I can't live without it anymore
>WE WON'T ACTUALLY GET IT AND NO DOUJINS
FUUUUUCK

>>156718538
>She might indeed drop the punk act to impress him

Something tells be it's going to fail.

>>156718614
>She only has one bang. She has a pony tail. She's wearing lipstick and earrings. She's taller, and has a completely different outfit.

Goku also looks like a different person when he actually bothers to take a comb and dresses like a normal person.

>>156718910
Imagine if Imizu, the guy who did all those Touhou battle doujins decided to draw out a battle between those two.

Holy shit man, I don't think I could handle it. I would quite literally die.

>>156718538
Wait is her being a punk an act or is her being demure an act? Well either way I don't think Cabba will buy it.

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Toyo Vegeta isn't tsundere like Anime Vegeta is I noticed. He outright admits he cares for Bulma and even publicly asked her for permission in the Trunks arc

>>156719211
It's Cabba we are talking about. He will probably buy her being demure but bullying trauma will make him try to stay away while she swoons over him

>>156718305
me, because I'm not a faggot and I don't try to be cool on an imageboard bragging about how of a special snowflake i am for liking le muscle women meme.

>>156719026
>loook at meeee i get aroused by weird things lmao xDdD!
go back to r*ddit underage faggot

>>156719263
No one is bragging. People are just apreciating two amazoness fighting naked on the mud. Though I'd rather this be just in normal SSJ. Fighting in LSSJ would turn me off

broccoli and cauliflower get it get it.....