Just because something has intellectual value doesn't make

>>156306552
>its not just a surface level straw man critique of socialism, its a BAD critique of socialism
I only watched the first 4 episodes, explain further.

>>156306552
Something can be completely vapid and pointless and still gain popularity. The answer is it has something in it that people like.

I enjoyed it because it's not a view on socialism it's a view on a feeling a lot of 20 somethings experience these days, which is such extreme depression that you second guess your every action and even become afraid and unable to leave the house. Hikkikomori are a legit problem in japan too so maybe this is also something that's more poignant in the origin country.

>>156306552
>but an abstract art-style does not make something inherently better
Asides from some classic Gonzo QUALITY it looks pretty normal.

>>156306552
>abstract art-style
You kidding me? That counts as abstract to you? Looking at your post I can't tell whether you're just a fool trying to sound smart or some guy so desperate to be smart that he looks for things that aren't there.

>>156306825
There's a quote in there along the lines of "Well when someone's gotta eat they'll work." Which is a gross misrepresentation of the societies modern economy. Plenty of people want to work, but its easier not to since most entry level jobs for high-school graduated pay shit wages. Its not the fault of these listless 20-somethings inaction that causes them to become shut-ins, its simply a matter of incentive. Right now, theres almost no reason for some people to enter the workforce, and this is a trend that will continue until the majority of adults persist on government funds procured from the heavy taxation of automated businesses. We are hurdling towards this end and NHK suggests that there is some sort of way out of it, but technology does not stop developing so people can get jobs.

>>156306552
>>156307151

Welcome to the NHK had absolutely nothing to do with politics you fucking idiot.

>>156306959
I know I'm not using the traditional definition of Abstract art style, but the one that has been misappropriated for all works with unique aesthetic portrayals of the narrative. Its not ACTUALLY a complete abstraction of the directors "unconscious" vision into the anime-medium, but no one uses it that way in modern contexts.

>>156306552
Nice bait

>>156307259
Why not? Tell me, in full, why you believe I made an improper critique of this work?

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>>156306552
>>156307151
top fucking kek i never knew socialists are this autistic

>>156307259
This.

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>>156307151

last time i checked the show wasn't based on politics and economics

it had to do with social anxiety and what people who are shut ins deal with, the creator behind the manga i believe is a neet himself, even after some success royalties give him no reason to go work anywhere and he still is a shut in

It primarily doesn't go against socialism, but indeed the last part of "if you need a job you will get it" was pretty hurried and fundamentally wrong if you ask me.
Anyway it really has some worthwhile moments, which were the ones that pictured Satou's helplessness because it had something to do with the main theme.
Otherwise you are totally right.

>>156307331
Because you are autistic.

>>156307466
nice samefagging

>>156307448
The NEET problem is inherently tied to economics and politics. The show is trying to answer the question of how to solve it, and I believe while it has some feel good scenes, it ultimately fails.

None of this lofty philosophy you guys speak of bring up the simple fact that there's just more people than real jobs on the planet.

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>>156307536

>>156307880
But this is the future we chose. Our only jobs should be hunting in the wild or something like that, but instead we made up all this shit that surrounds us, slapped the "progress" label on it and then trapped ourselves inside of it.

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>>156307933
Wait shit, this is the real one

>>156307331
>>156307767
You are the faggot trying to see some kind of overarching message about it. The story is just a simply tale of a depressed NEET that reflects the sort of feelings the author, a real life NEET, was going through. It's much close to a stream of conscious thing (and no, it's different from the type of Hunter S Thompson style inc ase you actually are pretentious and dumb enough to associate stream of consciousness style with him since he's one of the more prominent examples.). NHK is just that, a guy being depressed for being a social outcast, that he may spend the time ranting of society etc is not meant to be a literal critique of society etc. You talking about
> surface level straw man critique of socialism, its a BAD critique of socialism
is just like people who do the same thing with Fight Club even though in the end, the point is that the Fight Club members are following the words of a raving lunatic. Just because Tyler Durden MAY have some "truth" in some of the words he say doesn't mean that he's right or that you take his words seriously, because again, he's an insane fragment of the narrator's mind and not the most mentally stable voice.

>The show is trying to answer the question of how to solve it
No, it isn't. Never was, just an interpersonal tale of a guy who went through shit. No grand motive about solving any damn thing. People like NHK because some people relate to the sort of anxiety, mindset and attitude he was going through, not for some grand intellectual critique of society. That's it. There are no solutions being proposed because in the end, it's just the story of how a guy dealt with his life. He thinks that it works or doesn't work FOR HIM, not a blanket method for society at large. You trying to take his so-called critique seriously is basically the equivalent of you being deceived by an unreliable narrator.

>>156308061
It's not like Tyler Durden isn't right about almost everything though.

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>>156308039
you are indeed autistic

>>156306552
>critique of socialism
What the fuck show did you watch?

>>156307880
yes, that's indeed true.

The thing is that the whole point of that is just a plot device and therefore bad writing, but it wasn't even a main topic in the anime to conclude that it's a critique of socialism.
It was used to give a cheap happy ending rather than to promote free market, I mean.

>>156308061
The show is obviously critiquing many aspects of the NEET lifestyle, from dating sims to lack of drive in pursuing work and building social skills. The main plot-point is Misaki's "project" to take the MC out of NEEThood, isn't the show, like Misaki, attempting to reach out to all those who are similarly afflicted with a solution to their problems?

>>156308375
>like Misaki, attempting to reach out
Oh look, another one who missed the damn point hard. Assuming you're OP, no wonder you went and write all that drivel. Congrats, yet another person who didn't realize that Misaki didn't have benign intention in approaching Satou.

I don't why I even bothered trying to reply seriously to you in the first place.

>>156308375
Real people don't have a Misaki, or can't just order one on the Internet as they please.
And she isn't exactly an angel either.

>>156308375
>not this shit again.jpg
Misaki's project is a sham. She doesn't and never wanted to reach out to Satou. She wanted someone worse off than her to depend on her. She doesn't actually want to take the MC out of NEEThood. How the hell do people keep failing to get this shit? Is this why the typical anime needs a shit ton of exposition to repeat a thing we just watched? Because there are plenty of people like you who would miss the plot otherwise?

>>156308508
>>156308545
>>156308617
Yea but that doesn't mean she can't be compared to our author on an abstract level. Although I will admit its a tenuous point to make, I'll concede it.

>>156308375
>The main plot-point is Misaki's "project" to take the MC out of NEEThood, isn't the show, like Misaki, attempting to reach out to all those who are similarly afflicted with a solution to their problems?
No, because taking MC out of NEEThood is just a pretense. Also, the author himself flat out admitted that nothing changed for him as the success of his novel just further enabled him to continue being a NEET by living off his royalties. The author himself isn't offering any solutions because he himself doesn't even have any solution to this shit to begin with.

>>156308508
>>156308508
I'm not the OP or the anon you were replying to, or anyone else ITT for that matter. Can you explain what Misaki's ulterior motives were? I watched the anime 6-7 years ago and didn't read the manga or the light novel. I don't remember what her backstory was. What was her deal again? I vaguely remember something about her being abused or having some traumatic history that led to her Satou project?

>>156308715
>Yea but that doesn't mean she can't be compared to our author on an abstract level.
She can. But not in a way that support your point.

>>156308782
see
>>156308617

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>>156306552
>tfw this isn't bait

>>156308782
Long story short: she wanted to feel less shit by helping people (Satou) shittier than her. All this feeling being triggered by childhood abuses.

>>156307340
I didn't either, and I'm a fucking communist.

>>156308782
There's this reality tv on TLC called My 600 lb Life. It's super popular on /fit/ and /tv/. It's about morbidly obese people, like bed bound, can't even walk and need people to wash and feed them type of ridiculously obese blob with BMI higher than your own weight. People in the threads keep asking stuff like why don't the spouse leave the fatties and keep putting up with that shit. Well, in one episode, a woman actually managed to successfully lose weight. She actually managed to go out on her own, do normal people stuff and so on. Guess what happens next? Her husband (or was it bf?) broke up with her. Turns out he wants her to stay obese and depend on him.

It's the same dysfunction here with Misaki.

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>>156309041
>he's serious

>>>/leftypol/

>>156309126
If nazis and other cancerous retards could set up their home here then communists can too.

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>>156306552
Get off of /a/ and never come back we don't need you on this board.

>>156309700
/a/ is a shitfest, I'm not here because I want to be

Communist here. I have no idea what OP is on about. NHK has no real political critique at all.

Which is political in itself. But I don't remember seeing any critique on politics in the show.

>>156309816
No, its not ostensible like LOGH, but I feel its present at the very least. Why don't you think there is a political aspect of the show?

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>>156306552
The fact that NHK's author was still a shut-in NEET, even after his novel sold enough copies to get both a manga and anime adaptation, pretty much invalidates anything he has to say on the subject.

Don't try to convince other people to do things you can't do yourself.

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>multiple self avowed communists in this thread

>>156310037
I believe he's said that writing the book was an attempt to get himself out of that lifestyle in the first place, but has since admitted that it didn't work and he was basically full of shit.

>>156310037
>>156310223
So what you're saying is that the author himself admitted that NHK was a mediocre LN

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holy shit op

>>156310297
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov%27s_gun
I guess maybe I have too much respect for the author?

>>156310279
Just shut the fuck up, OP. You are full of shit and already got BTFO many times.

>>156309299
Nazis are better than communists. At least Hitler had a nice mustache.

>>156309958
Author was a social outcast, not Adam Smith. He wanted to convey his feelings of loneliness, not to explain how efficient is free market. You cannot take the message out of the last 5 minutes of the show.

see>>156310297

>>156310037
Always find it weird how many people I've heard say they read/watch NHK as if it was some guide to not being a NEET anymore.
Here's the cold hard truth: you get a job, or start going to school to pursue a job. If you find that you are emotionally unable to do so, please seek medical help.

>>156310297
Why would the author go out of their way to specify something as inconsequential as the fucking color of curtains in a non-visual work if it didn't have some kind of significance

>>156308038
Make the fucking automated robots work for us. I swear to kami, every single person could have a personal robot assistant to cook, clean, grow food, and ootherwise help them. We don't NEED a massive industrial economy because people could have personal mining extensions of their assistant and every other sort of thing imaginable. And we don't even have to enslave AI to do it because the programs necessary to run such robots are laughably simple, I could write one right now. But we don't because humanity can't suck up it's pride, stop fighting or obsessing over worthless money, and pitch in for one last group effort before parting ways with their robots that will build more robots that will build more robots. People are fucking stupid.

>>156310333
Nothing anyone has wrote has convinced me otherwise of my opinion. There have definitley been detractors, and people who disagreed, but no one has given me a decent argument with cited evidence against the main point of the post. I can understand why you and others enjoy the show, I just feel that it is heavily overrated. No one has yet elucidated a counter-point, only a basic disagreement and denial of my own.

>>156310439
>>156310457
This. The author is just some bloke expressing is feelings, not some academic or expert of social science.

>>156310474
Immersion is a kind of significance. Trying to create a sense of realness in how you imagine the place is some kind of significance. Significance is more than just some metaphorical, allegorical or philosophical meaning, by the way. For instance, Game of Thrones isn't deep, the author just likes to write a lot on describing mundane things to make his world feels real when you imagine it. That is still significant, it just isn't "deep" nor is there anything to interpret.

>>156310479
But not everyone will be able to manufacture their own personal robot for everything. And those who can create efficient factories to sell these bots to the masses will control all of the capital of the state, not just the value that reaped from the product itself, but the work that went into it. We are entering a future where unless you live completely off the grid, you will live in a society where only a small group of oligarchs have consolidated all power.

>>156310474
Because the written medium cannot simply project images, so the author must paint the image with his words. His point in decribing the surroundings is to make the reader "see" the room, not to tell some "deep" message. Now, that's not always 100% the case, but more often than not you're reading things between the lines that don't exist. However, I do believe in death of the author as a factor in arts subjective quality.

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>>156310474
because its easier to imagine a scene when you're given enough information of your surrounding and you don't have to come up with shit yourself

maybe they were blue because the owner of the house really like a color blue

does it have any consequential impact on the story?

>>156310533
>but no one has given me a decent argument with cited evidence
> No one has yet elucidated a counter-point, only a basic disagreement and denial
Neither did you do any of those. And they did provide evidence, more in-depth than you, in fact. More so than you ever did. You just ignored them. You even quietly swept under the fact that your own argument got destroyed here >>156308715

>>156310617
But wouldn't it be easier for the people making the robots to just give away the robots for free, or even make a self-running factory, and then go off on their own to enjoy their own life free of duty or money? Why waste a short life like our own trying to control people to do what you can do more enjoyably on your own?

>>156310617
I want to believe that with enough time, you can. I mean, a lot of things like say computers used to be for industry people, big companies or serious research purposes.

>>156310614
>>156310679
>game of thrones
kek

Its a mark of an amateurish author to include elements in a story which have no value to it. Even if the author mentioned the curtains were blue, we have to investigate why. Why blue? it couldn't have been completely random
maybe they were blue because the owner of the house really likes the color blue, which would harken back to an earlier part of the story. Maybe they're blue since they reflect an aspect of the character's personality. Maybe they're blue because the author likes the color blue, etc. etc. Every element has a reason, especially in a written piece.

>>156306552
The anime adaptation of NHK is fucking shit tier bar the fantastic job by the voice actors / music.

Has nothing on either the manga or the LN, both of which are vastly different from it.

>>156310803
>maybe they were blue because the owner of the house really likes the color blue
And so we just went full circle.
Also, thanks for proving my point.
>Every element has a reason, especially in a written piece.
If only you actually read the entire post instead of making a knee-jerk reaction. For all the talks about critical analysis, you aren't very good at it and can only jump to point at a superficial bit.

>>156310803
Is this going to lead to the part where I bring up other classical/ acclaimed authors doing the same thing and then you go full /lit/ hipster and claim they're actually all shit and overrated?

>>156310699
Well even if I reneged there I would point out >>156310223, which is thoroughly convincing IMO on towards the integrity of my original argument (t>>156306552). And most of what we see here are guesses, if the authors (considering >>156310848
lets say the director of the anime) intent was to give an answer solving the issue of being NEETism, then I'd say they unilaterally failed and those posts only go to support my original argument.

>>156310794
If possible I'd undermine the elites of society by making self repairing multipurpose robot workers. I'd do it for free, because I'd use my own robot worker to do shit like mining and producing so I don't need to buy it from someone else. The tricky part is buying the parts for making the initial workers.

>>156310887
>>156310929
What I'm saying is that even the author thinking the color blue is cool may still be a point of analysis that's important to understand the rest of the piece. To say that any element is completely inconsequential would be disregarding that literature should be analysed at all.

>>156310929
I won't go as far, but bring me one example from Joyce or an equivalent. If I can see one example from a decent author which I personally believe is great (Joyce, Borges, Dellilo, Plato just to give a few examples), then I'll concede.

>>156311003
Even if you have workforce, you still lack land and resources.
If you want to generate some technology to replace those, you surely would need the help of the society to back up the research.

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>>156310803
I want you to look around your room,
pay close attention to colors, materials and textures on every object.

think really hard what is their significance

they cant all be random right? maybe they're projection of your hidden worries which you don't want to think about

write 1000 word essay on this subject and come back

>>156310963
>those posts only go to support my original argument
>convincing IMO on towards the integrity of my original argument
You have got to be trolling at this point. Nobody is this stubborn or stupid, right? At this point you're just going "I'm always right, fuck reason, even if it goes against me, I'm still right". You know what, think what you want. It's apparent that you aren't here to discuss things and you're not here to understand things. You just want to be right, so naturally any point people bring up won't mean shit to you. I sincerely hope you'll grow up at some point unless you intend to stay in an echo chamber forever.

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>>156309299
>this is actually what communists think

your not converting anyone. fuck off and stay on /pol/

>>156311181
Oh my god, you're right, I just discovered that it's because I like dicks. Everything in my room resemble dicks.

op took their first critical analysis course and now everything looks like a nail

>>156311140
But we have the technology. We just need o put the right pieces in the right places.

>>156311242
Isn't /pol/ supposed to be filled with nazis, I mean alt-right? Why would there be commies there?

>>156311181
No fuck you I'm the author I can control the entire scene. If I wrote a 1:1 description of my room someone may conclude that my intent was to externalize my internal view of my environment, which may contrast the "objective view" or something similar.

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>>156308375
>>156308748
The solution in the story is obviously other people, dragging you along kicking and screaming (through guilt or otherwise), but the thing about being a NEET is that if you do have a social life, it's with other wastoids.
Eventually though, I think a hunger for something will eventually drive all but the absolute most hopeless cases out of the attic. I know I want a family, badly. I want to know what it's like to live in a house that isn't dysfunctional, to get smiles and harmony instead of a bunch of adopted kids who fight and shriek and a woman who shrieks louder than everyone else.

>>156311181
Not him, but writing isn't photography.
That's a bad analogy.

Read the manga, the story is about how a guy is fucking himself over, depends on a girl to help him and she fucks him over, and then he stops fucking himself over.

>>156311287
It's been filled with redditors and leftypol.

>>156311197
What is this ad hominen bullshit. Come back when you've coalesced anything into a real argument

>>156311181
Easy. You are so devoid of meaning in your life that you desperately look for meaning in fiction. And Girlish Number is shit and deserved to flop.

>>156311416
>Come back when you've coalesced anything into a real argument
After you. Remember, you still haven't even come up with any solid argument to start with.

>>156311274
I was thinking something along the lines of disputes over cultivable land and mining resources, it is not like your robots will be able to enter private property and mine the same resources that the elites are mining. And no there isn't just another place to mine resources neither fertile land.

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>>156311287
this isnt a political board

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>>156311419
Girlish Number is indeed shit

but Chitose is a cute

Read the LN

>>156307466
>but indeed the last part of "if you need a job you will get it" was pretty hurried and fundamentally wrong if you ask me.
Not in Japan it isn't, they have problems finding people to employ.

ITT: first year arts major OP throws a tantrum when everyone in the thread mocks him

>>156311463
Ok. What I'm maintaining is that the author is attempting to give an answer to the problem of NEEThood, and that Misaki is the proxy/answer in and of herself (we live for others and others live for us, so couples are just damaged people surviving off each other). The point was that the author himself is still a NEET, so his advice is poor or at least hes too weak to go through with it himself.

>>156311626
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37218507
>Japan's unemployment rate fell to 3% in July...
Holy shit. I guess its different over there. Americans and Europeans especially probably can't relate.

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>>156311626
You got me there
OP really over thought socialism though

>>156311707
>that the author is attempting to give an answer
And plenty of posts already said that's just what you want it be. And once again, they've already made more elaborate posts dismantling why your assertions is weak and that he never was advising anything. But nope, you just go "it doesn't count". What else do you want others to say?

The worst part is that you just know OP is never going to read the original LN

>>156306552
This is some kind of copypasta, right? Because it doesn't make any sense otherwise.

>>156311753
>>156311626
Well maybe I was wrong about the socialism thing since I lacked cultural context, but if it doesn't even have that then I'm downgrading it to a 7/10.

>>156310533
>Nothing anyone has wrote has convinced me otherwise of my opinion
>bad critique of socialism
>wasn't even a critique of socialism
What more do you want, OP?

>>156311817
Could I see an example (not trying to be pompous just wondering)?

>>156311837
Look at how he doubles down in claiming that posts that argues against him still somehow proves that he's right. He already got proven wrong many times and while typing this post >>156311851 Oh will you look at that.

>>156311888
Read the thread yourself.

>>156311950
I'm not attempting to fight an ego war here, I was merely posing an opinion and I was wondering what people's thoughts were. If I'm wrong I'd like to see how, but since its my point I'm obligated to argue for it.

>>156311851
>flat out gets shown that the very thing he claims to exist don't exist aka making his original post even weaker
>I'm downgrading it
Yeah, this guy is just a retard after all.

>>156312038
I'm saying that since its only
>just a moe-blob depression-quest-esque autoplay dating sim. There's a decent amount of polish, and good subtle character progression, but an abstract art-style does not make something inherently better. And also just because its self-aware about its dating-sim nature does not change its sub par critique.
Than its just a mediocre show which shouldn't have any renown/shouldn't be taken seriously.

>>156311851
>Well maybe I was wrong about the socialism thing since I lacked cultural context, but if it doesn't even have that then I'm downgrading it to a 7/10.
Anon, you should consider that because you have misinterpreted a lot about NHK and that you lack cultural context on a lot of your comments that you should rewatch it and adjust your score.
Why would NHK not being a critique of socialism lower the score when that was never the point of the show in the first place? If anything such a thing would be diluting the message it has by getting caught up in politics that go against the tone of the show.

>>156312014
>if I'm wrong I'd like to see how
This shit is going in circles, it's not even funny anymore.

>>156311851
A topic touched superficially is always a downside because it would be pretentious. In this case you should have actually raised your original score.

>>156312147
>moe-blob
I'm surprised nobody even bothered to point out he doesn't even know what moe-blob means.

>>156312014
It sounds like you need to give the show a rewatch (and read the book, if you can) because you've completely misinterpreted it.

Satou's life doesn't really get any better after he gets a job. It isn't shown as a "solution". This is even more obvious if you read the book. He still spends must of his time locked up in his apartment and works a few times a week.

Welcome to the NHK is more about the human condition.

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>>156312147
>>just a moe-blob depression-quest-esque autoplay dating sim
But you're wrong. It isn't a dating sim since none of the females would be desirable in real life for anyone who isn't crazy themself. Senpai is a bipolar slut who would cuck her bf/husband when she has a mood swing.
Misaki is co-dependent borderline suicidal girl who would do anything to keep you chained to her.
This is coming from a guy who loves Misaki and has her as his waifu.
Did depression quest ever have the main character peeving on little girls in elemantary school or doing prolific amounts of illegal drugs to the point stimulant psychosis? (I genuinely don't know)
It's a story about a piece of shit person who meets other people who are more or less shitty people as Satou tries to be less of a shit person and oftentimes fails.

>>156312275
I definitely won't watch the show again but I'll see about the LN. Are there any good English translations?

>>156312014
>I'm not attempting to fight an ego war here

now what? We're going to argue if Sigmund Freud influenced this cartoon next? That the portrayal of libido was wrong?

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>>156312275
this

>>156312353
I never made that point but if you would present it I would argue against it.

>>156312348
There's an official English translation. I don't think it's that hard to find.

>>156312401
just get out and go to MAL or reddit

>>156312401
Oh boy, here we go again.

>>156312353
see >>156312183 Don't bother. He'll just keep playing mental gymnastics.

>>156312463
The point isn't that one person is objectively correct initially. It takes multiple people and a dialectical process to find truth, and if you won't participate in it then you must also forfeit the truth of any proposition you make at once when its attacked.

>>156312519
Take your own advice then.

>>156312519
Maybe you shouldn't post on /a/ about it then

>>156312579
What does that even mean? I have a point, which I am arguing, and I am conceding certain parts of it and evolving others. I have no interest in being correct, merely in ascertaining the truth value of my initial statement and attempting to find a synthesis which is more true. If I don't argue it then there is no debate.

>>156312621
Are you saying people on /a/ are incapable of having reasonable discourse?

>>156312519
Says the guy who blatantly dismiss all other posters who disagreed with him. What a joke.

>>156312672
I didn't dismiss them, I conceded certain articles multiple times. If you have something to say in particular about one argument then you may mention it and I will considering duly. Otherwise I don't see a point in your further participation since you would then obviously have no care to find the truth or ability to separate the argument from yourself.

>>156312666
Then re-read the posts in the earlier part of the thread instead of going 'Where? I don't see the counter-argument!'. Even after you got proven wrong and claim to concede, you still choose to pull shit like "downgrading" your rating. Even though it's you making a flawed evaluation to begin with. And yet you still dare to claim you're not in it for the ego war. It's mind boggling how you'll say one thing and then contradict it by how you behave.

>>156312769
>then obviously have no care to find the truth or ability to separate the argument from yourself
see>>156312579

>>156312777
But this thread has a 127 different posts and Its not my responsibility to cite something supporting your argument. I re-evaluated based on what I've found in the thread myself and come to the conclusion that for all NHK has going for it its still a mere 7/10, and is little more in equivalency to a YA novel (although its an LN so I don't know what I expected).

>>156312813
>>156312777
>>156312672
>>156312621
Just ignore him. Let's go back to talking about robots and workplace instead. What would the future workplace be like? Will 3rd world countries be wrecked since we no longer need to depend them for cheap cheap unskilled labor?

>>156312895
The third world will use robots all the same, and their economic growth isn't stopping any time soon. In the future, it will be material resources that really matter, e.g. lithium for batteries among other things.

>>156312943
Yea but wouldn't all their labor requirements be met by proprietors from first world countries who would have already developed and shipped their technology overseas? It would put everyone their out of work.

>>156312877
>to cite something supporting your argument
Nobody said it has to support my argument. Those 120+ different posts from 30+ posters all lead to them calling you out on your shit in their own ways. See, it's not about me. It's an anonymous board. They called called bullshit on you, so you try and dispute them on the posts' basis.

>>156313004
Good. Starve out the pinoys so there's less shitposting on /a/.

>>156313009
No right now its specifically you who must come up with evidence against my argument in this specific instance and if you don't than you forfeit this specific line of debate.

>>156313095
So you just wanna argue for the sake of argue. So much for not in it for the ego war.

>>156313095
Furthermore, I'd like you to bring up each and every one of those times where I didn't respond to a dissenting post, or if I did how I did improperly, so I may be absolutely sure which posts you are referring to.

>>156313085
Well you've seen those taxi driver protests, they get pretty violent. Imagine what will happen when these people in the third world are completely stripped of their livelihood.

>>156313095
>>156313141
Damn, you are one petty motherfucker.

>>156313004
As with what's already happening, developing nations would just buy 2nd hand outdated models from the developed nations.

>>156313173
Kill them with robots.

>>156313009
Seriously, please. Just stop replying and let him be an autist alone.

>>156313130
No, I want to debate for the sake of truth and so far I haven't seen you give me something that would benefit the dialectic.

>>156313199
same thing here, if you don't want to debate then you shouldn't use ad hominen.

>>156313259
You have to understand, once someone stops replying after failing to refute a point then they've effectively "lost" and although I personally don't care to lose its the ego that may get in the way of someone ceasing to post even after their useful function in the debate has left.

>>156313259
Wouldn't that just spur even stronger opposition? I believe it may be more pertinent to understand the populous' concerns so they don't levy what little power the have against their masters. The foreign state probably won't enjoy being kicked out of this country.

>>156312943
I doubt we'll still be depending on lithium batteries. On a somewhat unrelated note, I hope people will get over the fear with nuclear research and learn to appreciate it's more than just for making bombs.

>>156313374
>Wouldn't that just spur even stronger opposition?
So what. They're poor. We got top tier robots while they've got shit tier weapons.

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>>156313374
>lets start a revolution goys

again, your not converting anyone leftypol. Just go back to your hugbox

>>156313450
Yea but you can't kill all your customers. They still need to maintain these robots to some degree and trade whatever currency they have for the goods and services the robots provide. I believe someone earlier pointed out that some may choose leave general society and live off the grid in the face of mega-corporate overlords.

>>156313527
That's what the middle class is for. And that means they have jobs and not irrelevant so they wouldn't need to rebel.

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>ywn escape /pol/

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>so what's everyone's obsession over it
i only ever see this anime get mentioned at most once a week on /a/ what are you on about

>>156307340
>i never knew socialists are this autistic
This is how I know you've never been to college.

>>156315360
It's not as discussed on /a/, it's almost universally liked, and for good reason.

Hello everyone. I’m Tatsuhiko Takimoto.

Now I release Misaki evocation meditation English version.

Misaki Nakahara is a character of “Welcome to the NHK” that I wrote. Someday I recognized that many person who live in the whole world are still waiting and wanting that the day Misaki coming in the person’s home. So I decided to make this guided meditation to evoke Misaki for every person who love Misaki. I hope that this meditation make some good for your life.

This guided meditation was spoken by Amina du jean. She is a American person, doing idol activity in Japan. She also corrected and edited this English meditation script that I made from Japanese transcript.

>>156306552
Rewatch episode 1, NHK is about Satou's delusional beliefs that everyone is laughing at him whenever he goes outside so he becomes a shut in.

>>156310803
>Its a mark of an amateurish author to include elements in a story which have no value to it. Even if the author mentioned the curtains were blue, we have to investigate why.
It's the mark of a pseudointellectual to look for deeper meaning in every given detail. It tells you that they can't read between the lines and see the bigger picture contained in the themes and developments the book is portraying before working their way down to a lower level.
Something can be important to a given part of the story without containing any deeper meaning.
IE: how did character get from point a to point b.
Hell the curtains might just be blue because he wants to create a certain atmosphere.

Looking for significance in every word is nonsense, even for serious, skilled, and professional analysts and writers.

>>156306552
t was pretty meh

>>156306552
I want /pol/ to leave

>>156321470
>/pol/
>not hating socialism

>>156306552
Holy shit you're retarded

Reminder that he has two right hands.

I just found it entertaining to watch and liked the music.

I don't really know anything about the "intellectual value" or it being a critiique of anything. I'm not really sure what you mean. To me it was just an entertaining story.

>>156306879
also this. There's nothing unusual about the art.

How censored was the TV version compared to the manga?

>>156323783
he didn't explicitly do drugs in the anime. that's about the only thing I remembered being censored

I haven't seen the show in almost 10 years, but I have to say I enjoyed it more than the manga. I'll need to read the novel soon to see what I think of that

>>156307510

Wouldn't someone who is autistic be more likely to make a proper analysis?

>>156325220
No? Autistic doesn't mean you are smart. You can be obsessed and just do or spout stupid shit. There are plenty of notorious posters here on 4chan that are autistic as fuck and most of them are not known for making smart posts.

>>156308375
It's not a "critique" of anything. It's simply the author of the novel, himself a NEET who remained so even after the success of the novel and anime, expressing his experiences living this lifestyle. He wasn't criticizing/analyzing anything. It's basically just a presentation on "This is what my life is like and how my mind works"

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>>156310803

>autistic /leftypol/ fags trying to project politics onto anything

Just fucking stop is it not possible to go one day without someone forcing politics down my throat.

>>156306552
>NHK
>critique of socialism
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I liked the manga better.

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>>156329126

>Anti-intellectualism

Ew

>>156306552
You have poor taste my friend

So socialists dislike this? That makes it even better.
You're never going to be some high party cadre living the lavish and self-enriching lifestyle you project on capitalists OP, it's time to face that.

>>156307151
Found the History major.

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>>156329126
>>156329167
Garbage ending. Manga truly is the worst.

How did OP completely miss the main point that "Misaki doesn't exist and will never save you" and that "eventually you have to work if you want to survive"?
How hard is he projecting right now?

>>156307259
>ITT: /a/ fails to understand the concept of political commentary.
Forest Gump was in no way political either, too.

>>156307151
The core issue that allows NEETdom to exist is safety net social programs not doing a proper job of making sure that people eventually get off them (which also goes for the families as well).
For Japan, the stigma of seeing a counselor or psychiatrist needs to be handled first. The simple fact is, the people around them don't have the first clue in how to really help people with Social Anxiety Disorder.

But yes, the barrier to get back to work is staggering in pretty much every developed country these days. Shit, I've been rejected by every job I've applied for so far. The fact is, entry level jobs are too competitive because they are the only ones available to most of the population.

>>156332880
Jokes on you, I'm a sucker for cheesy romance.

>>156308375
>>156307331
Did you read the Novel?

It has nothing to do with politics.
It's about self pity, self medicating (drug abuse), and that romance is not the cure for depression/self loathing

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>>156306552

>180 replies and rising

Sasuga desu anon-sama

This week is starting off pretty strong

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>180 replies to a complete shitpost
Nani?

>>156336497
>giving another reply when the guy above you already made an identical post