Dragon Ball Super: Pay attention, newfags.

Training is irrelevant, consistency is irrelevant. The producer will do what he fucking wants and Akira will have little to no real say in it all.

Tien will be SSB Goku level, he will make him struggle I fucking bet.

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>>156304552
Toriyama >>> Toei
Just because he gave his approval doesn't excuse it from criticism. Toriyama himself is dissatisfied with Toei's work and was relieved when Shueisha/Jump established the new Dragon Ball department.

>>156304675
That still doesn't excuse the fact that the producer isn't worried about power inflation or overall consistency with it.

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>>156304921
"ouchie" is a term reserved for the absurdly toned down/lack of violence/gore in the Sunday morning cartoon for kids.

>>156304921
"Reminder" that that's simply a copied pose, not a direct trace.

If Toyo traced that then it would be Perfect Cell on both sides.

Remember: Referencing.

>>156305087
>i-i-it was just a homage i s-swear guys!!

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>>156304921
Homages >>> Literal tracing
Either way the sweatshop workers at Toei need all the help they can get.

Powerlevels are a mess and it doesn't matter.
But how the fuck did Goku teleport into the goddamn spaceship if there was nobody there with a Ki big enough to use as a reference? And he did it twice.

>inb4 mangacucks get mad about the detonator homage in the newest episode

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>>156304601
>>156304675
>>156304860
>>156304921
>>156305051
>>156305087
>>156305117
>>156305132

>>156305255
why are you doing this anon

>>156305251
I'm a mangafag, and I thought the detonator thing was great.

>>156305117
I'm not even defending it you retard. Jesus I really hope you're at least younger than 16, then it'd make sense for you to act so immature.

I don't give a fuck about any "homages" besides the one with Goku and Vegeta in the RoSaT, that was the only one I could respect.

Referencing is something every artist on the planet does. Sure, it's not super creative and can make one look bad, but it's still a fair way of pumping out material easier.

I just don't know why Toyotaro doesn't make his own damn poses, or just learns how to draw more dynamic poses in the first place. (This one isn't even fucking dynamic at all, it's literally just Zamasu tilted to the side.)

No idea why Toriyama picked Toyo. Toriyama should've just did it on his own, and made the fucking thing weekly.

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>>156305251
We're not mad about the shitty episode, just let down because the premise had so much more potential than what we got.

>>156305325
I accept your concession.

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>>156305325
>Toriyama should've just did it on his own, and made the fucking thing weekly.
He doesn't want to fucking work anymore ya dingus.

>>156305344
>caring about filler

>>156305325
>Toriyama should've just did it on his own
Because he's old and doesn't have the stamina anymore? Let him rest.

>>156305251
I'm let down by the fact 17 didn't go full savage and just kick the dude's fucking head off. Now THAT would've satisfied me. But instead he just fucking says "Kay, I'm as strong as the Gods now but I'll just let some normie who looks like Pepe push me to the point where I'll throw him and myself off the ship even though I'm incomprehensibly faster, stronger, and better than him overall."

Fucking hell. How hard would it have been to just have a clean decapitation via 17's leg?

>>156305325
>Toriyama should've just did it on his own, and made the fucking thing weekly.
He's already done way more than he needed to do. He's perfectly entitled to have the backseat role he has.

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>>156305393
Beerus is a cute

>>156305417
He was the one who wanted to reboot the franchise wasn't he? If he was truly in the mood to rest then he wouldn't have done as much as he has.

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>>156305417
That senile old fucker should have let Dragon Ball rest

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Reminder the manga is authentic as fuck.

>>156305481
Do it for him

>>156305255
>SSJB becoming less impressive
>Goku doesn't use SSJ against Uub
Mark my words, Goku will lose the power to transform to reach greater heights, and it'll serve to make Uub even more impressive. There was no excuse for him to not go SSJ1 against Uub.

>>156304552
>hey listen to why I'm right and why you're wrong, read my paragraphs where I show that discussing a show that you love is fucking retarded!
I can't tell if you're a pajeet, a pedro, or if you're something more.

>>156305447
This. Dude worked on DB for a weekly basis for 11 years, even when he didn't want to. He doesn't have to do it again because we want him to.

>>156305481
All these faces and poses, yet Toei still fucks up Beerus's head. Why not just copy from some of these if they cut things too close to the deadline? I wouldn't mind, all of these are pretty quality shots. He's cute, yet fierce looking, just as he should.

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As a Faulconer fan, this song accurately describes how I feel about the guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F3W52yQTYA

>>156305570
>even when he didn't want to
When he stopped wanting to work on Dragon Ball, it ended.

>>156305540
>There was no excuse for him to not go SSJ1 against Uub.
Uub had strength but no decent training or experience.

>>156305477
So what? His position is fine. Provide information about an arc and let Toyo/Toei do what they will. That's enough for him.

>>156305544
Good job letting me know you have 0 comprehension whatsoever.

Discussing something the producer doesn't give a shit about is useless. Neither side can ever be proven, we'll be arguing shit that can never be problem or explained because they /don't/ care.

It'd be nice if there was a way around children getting onto 4chan, you lot stink up the fucking threads. It's nothing but young teens posting "haha xd fuk u pedro" on every thread to cause a problem.

Fuck off.

>>156305619
Someone hot glue this toy

>>156305614
You're an idiot. He said that there was times when he wanted to end it but his editors kept suggesting that he continue it.

He even says in the final issue
>I've wanted to end this for awhile, and my editors have agreed to finally let me end this thing.

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>>156305619
Moosle Troopers

>>156305649
Another edgy paragraph?
Oh I'm laffin

>>156305668
How about we "hot glue" your ass?

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>>156305477
No the BoG movie was already taking place without his consent.
The reason BoG was greenlit was because of the success and revitalisation of the franchise from Dragon Ball Heroes' success (game and manga) before 2011.

>First of all, please tell us the circumstances around your first hearing about the new movie.
"I think it was around 2011? It all started when I came to Tokyo, and my first editor1, Torishima-san, suddenly handed me the scenario and said, “read this!”… I guess? At that time I had no idea what it was, and when I asked Torishima-san what the scenario was for, I heard for the first time about how it was going to be made into an animated movie. (laughs)"

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/bog-official-movie-guide-akira-toriyama/

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>>156305619
Did based Goku forget to hold back and accidentally took a shit on him? Jiren looks like shit there.

>>156305751
What the fuck? Seriously? I'm so misinformed. I thought Toriyama started this whole shebang on his own terms because he hated what Dragon Ball Evolution did to the franchise.

Perhaps I'm just a retard, then. Thanks for showing me this, anon.

>>156305734
>Incapable of using the word "edgy"
>Your final resort is using a word that nobody except for literal children use when they've run out of comebacks.
>this is your last (You).

>>156305748
What are you, 12?

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>EoZ is canon
>DBS is also canon
>The ending of DBS is like the bad ending of Persona 3.
>U7 loses the Tournament of Power
>Zeno agrees to erase everyone's memories of the events since Goku met GoD Beerus, so everyone goes on living their lives happily like nothing had ever happened.
>This won't change the fact Zeno will delete U7 shortly after
>Goku flies off with Uub to train
>The Universe ends the day afterwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CSZDbKuL4 [Embed]

So how's Gohan going to handle his daily dose?

>>156305925
Are you?

DBS is starting to get good recently I am interested to see how the next few episodes go.

Hopefully Gohan MVPs the tournament lol.

>>156305941
This fucked me up, please refrain from posting this again just incase you jinx this shit.

>>156305941
Good, U7 is shit anyway.

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>If the producer of the god damned show doesn't care about consistency, then that's it, it's done. The arguments are fucking dead.
>try desperately to justify the flaws in the next lines
>NOBODY SHOULD DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I LOVE IT AND THAT'S IT!

Thank you for making worth to watch this trash, anon. It's the only anime below 6/10 i'll never drop since it's so fun to debate about it.

Is the Dragon Ball Heroes Victory Mission manga by Toyotaro still ongoing?

>>156305941
lmao

>>156306051
I don't think he'll be MVP but he'll probably get to do something cool. It's nice to see the character treated with some dignity for a change.

Still though, can't help but wonder why Gohan and Piccolo, or anyone else for that matter, aren't using the time chamber.

>>156306177
Isn't the Meme Chamber broken?

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>>156306177
>anyone else for that matter, aren't using the time chamber.

>>156306213
The entire Lookout was pristine the last couple of times it was shown.

>>156305619
>WE WILL RIDE INTO VALHALLA SHINY AND CHROME

>>156306137
Indefinite hiatus

>>156306246
No I mean didn't the only entrance to it get obliterated during the buu saga and thus unreachable? I mean it's not like you can just build another door to the pocket dimension (can you?).

>>156306354
Goku and Vegeta used it before the Universe 6 tournament, so it's been fixed since Buu.

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>>156305941
Does that mean Toriyama will finally manage to kill this man? He was trying to get rid of him since saiyajins' saga in order to go on with the series with characters he likes, but as fans got mad about it, Goku turned out to be "the man even god coudn't sink".

Poor thing he'll have to erase all the universe and the others characters along with him, but probably there's no other way around. The sole message at the serie's end will be "Goku was a mistake".

>>156306488
what characters do Toriyama like?

>>156306549
Mr Satan and Piccolo

>>156306567
Hey that's actually pretty good taste

who gives a shit about super, let's talk about the kai buu saga
is there anything better that could've happened for the series in english? it's a fucking godsend for making the original actually watchable without falling asleep or laughing at the shitty 90's VA

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>>156305941
Someone edit Toriyama's face on Goku and Toyo's face on Uub.

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Colorfag here

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>>156306696
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan version

>>156306696
That looks pretty good anon

>>156306354
Didn't vegeta use it during the Black arc?

>>156306646
>make a version of the anime that cuts out the fillershit
>except for the the slough that is the buu saga
what the fuck happened?

>>156306549
He tried to force Gohan as MC, then again, then Goten, and probably his next bet was Uub. Toriyama hates Goku so much, but his shit taste to build up protagonists wasn't very helpful.

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>>156306659
>there are people who still doubt our gas mask manbot's choice.

>>156306768
the only one he even built up was Gohan, Goten was just kind of there and Uub just showed up.

>>156306659
Anon, please no.

Any color/editfags around?

>>156305521
>toriyama draws the storyboard
>toyotoro literally traces it

hahaha

>>156305941
Not going to happen

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>>156306768
>He tried to force Gohan as MC
Doesn't mean he likes him though, he propably just wanted to get rid of Goku.
I guess he realized how boring Gohan really was when he dropped the idea of making him the new MC.

>>156306768
Gohan could have worked, but Toriyama didn't see it through a single arc because he's fickle.

Alright /a/ I got a hypothetical situation for you.

Suppose one day Toriyama decides to be an absolute madman and writes down a single line for what Super would do, all it says is "make Goten important." Now, what would Toyotaro do? What would Toei do?

>>156306824
What do you think? >>156306696 >>156306747

Why didn't they updated Goku's voice in DBS? That old lady's voice in a muscular powerful man is a bonner killer.

Toriyama's favorites:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-4-akira-toriyama-best/

>If you were to draw another “Dragon Ball”, who would the protagonist be?
Mister Satan
“Mister Satan would be the one I’d want to make into the protagonist. How about a gag manga with him and Boo?” The world grappling champion Mister Satan. Debuting in the second half of the story, he’s a cute character who took off on his own. It’d be nice if this gag manga were to become a reality!

>Who would you want as your kid? Who would want as your parent?
As a kid: Dende
“He’s serious and can heal his own injuries. But he looks a little strange, so I guess he’d be picked on at school.”

As a parent: Bulma
“I’d be very rich, so I’d be relatively left to myself.” And on top of that he’d be a genius.

>Who seems like they will live the longest, and who seems like they will die the earliest?
Looks like he’ll live long: Kame-Sen’nin
“It seems that he will live a surprisingly long time.” He certainly seems to be the happiest character.

Looks like he’ll die early: Vegeta
“Everybody dies eventually, but Vegeta seems like he has high blood pressure so he’ll probably go suddenly.”

>If you were to be reincarnated, who would you want to be?
Trunks
“It’d be nice to be the Trunks who doesn’t have the painful past. I’d be rich, be able to buy lots of toys, and be real strong. That’s what it looks like superficially.”

>Out of all your characters, which one is the most (blank)?
Cool: Goku
“I think it’s Goku.” The always pure strongest in the universe. Goku is #1 after all!

Gourmet: Satan
“I get the sense that he eats expensively. He’s high-class, but an OK sort.”

Shy: Piccolo
“I feel that the Namekians are basically a shy race.”

Fashionable: Trunks
“I thought it’d be Bulma, but once she became an old lady she dresses out of fashion.”

Mischievous: Kame-Sen’nin
“Of course it’d have to be this guy.” Was his perverseness the deciding factor?

>>156306766
what is it about the buu saga that sloughs
the saiyaman stuff at the beginning was actually nice

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>>156307002
Sorry I'm kind of retarded as you can see

>>156307051
>Which settings are you fond of from a design standpoint?
1 — Karin Tower
“My favorite is Karin Tower. A place built on top of a slender poll is interesting even if viewed from the center of the picture. It’s good even though it gives off an unbalanced feeling. I really like building designs like this, that couldn’t exist in reality.”

2 — God’s Temple
“There’s something interesting about places that float in the air. I also like places that are unusually shaped.”

>If you were to travel, which place would you like to go to?
1 — God’s Temple
“Sure enough, it’s God’s temple. Just to sight-see. I want to see what’s inside.”

2 — West City
“I don’t like cities very much, but it’s OK to go just once.”

3 — Kaiōshin Realm
“Something about it seems to have a nice feeling. It seems like I could pass the time peacefully. The climate looks nice as well.”

>What place do you think you’d like to live at?
Kame House
“It seems like shopping would be a pain, but if I had a mecha to go over the water with, and as long as a typhoon didn’t come, then Kame House is where I’d most like to live.” He’d like to live there even more if the island was a little bigger and there was a gigantic Kame House the size of Capsule Corporation.

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>>156306933

>>156307104
>If you were to choose the best shot of the Kamehameha, whose shot would you pick?
Kame-Sen’nin’s Kamehameha
“The one that left the most impression was the very first one, the one Kame-Sen’nin put out. Because the history of the Kamehameha started from here. Besides, I think the shape it has when he fires it was effective.”

>Which techniques would you like to learn?
1 — Bukūjutsu
“It must feel good to fly freely through the sky. I think it’d definitely be a good feeling. Besides, don’t you think it would be pretty useful in your daily life?”

2 — Shunkan-Idō (Instant Movement)
“Shunkan-Idō would probably be pretty good too. I could go to places I like just by thinking about them.”

3 — Kamehameha
“The Kamehameha! I think it’d be amazing to break things all over the place with it. But afterwards it’d be a pain to have to go reimburse everyone.”

>Which techniques are you fond of?
1 — Kamehameha
“I really don’t like techniques all that much, but with the Kamehameha isn’t it neat how it stores everything up and then releases it all at once? The Kamehameha is the one I’m most fond of. It was my wife who thought up the name.”

2 — Clash Ultra Boo-Boo Volleyball
“This one I liked. It’s really ludicrous but amusing. I was pleased with it.”

3 — Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack
“I like the ghosts too. It was crazy to have a technique with a will of it’s own for the first time.”

>Would you tell us what battles you’re fond of?
1 — Son Goku vs Piccolo Daimaō
“Piccolo Daimaō. Since it was the first battle with a truly evil guy, there was a certain something to the fight.”

2 — Gotenks vs Majin Boo
“I think this was the first fight in a long time where I was able to do things my way. I drew relatively a lot of things like that during this period.”

>What about famous fights from the Tenka’ichi Budōkai?
Son Goku vs Tenshinhan
“Thinking of a famous fight, it’d be Goku and Tenshinhan. It’s because their ability was almost exactly equal.”

>>156307061
the never-ending build up for Buu, it just fucking went on and on and on.

>>156307139
>Which item from Dragon Ball do you think you would most like to have?
Hoi-Poi Capsules
“Capsules! I think I’d want some capsules if I was going on a trip. And then, when there wasn’t any parking space, that’s when I’d want them the most. They certainly are convenient. Since I think their weight probably doesn’t change, I’d stuff anything into them. But what would happen if someone was still inside?”

>What item made even you think “This is amazing!”?
Hoi-Poi Capsules
“It’d have to be Hoi-Poi Capsules, I guess? Even in a manga they’re convenient. At first the series was a road manga, so if they went to various places without carrying any luggage and then suddenly pulled out luggage it’d be strange. If you just put items and vehicles into capsules, then it’s relatively convenient.”

>Who are your favorite Artificial Humans?
1 — Second-form Cell
“Cell’s second form, that tough guy. When I told Kondō-san, my editor at the time, ‘This is what I’ve come up with’ he told me, ‘Hey, this guy is stupid-looking. Make him into his perfect form soon.’ Actually, I had planned on him having a more active role.”

2 — Artificial Human No. 18
“No. 18 was a type of girl that I hadn’t drawn before, so I was relatively pleased with her. I like her slanted eyes.”

3 — Artificial Humans No. 19 and No. 20
“Speaking of slanted eyes, I also like No. 19 and No. 20. At first I thought I’d have No. 20 be the true enemy, but I was told that he was just a geezer so I got rid of him.”

>>156305443
If nothing else, it would have been a satisfying throwback to 17's destruction of Gero/20.

>all this filler getting the characters

FUCK YOU TOEI

We don't need 12 episodes for this shit.

>>156307001
Make a filler episode about Goten and Trunks

I'm seriously pissed at Goku for teleporting that fat shit to King kai's planet.


I mean fuck man give the dude a fucking break.

Can we just fucking ONCE have a thread that doesn't devolve into this stupid shit?

You fucking mangafags have become worse than the Toeicunts. You allow yourselves to get baited with obvious troll bullshit like "hehe Toiegods BTFO of Toyocucks yet again xD" and then sperg the fuck out and start throwing around insults. You're actually getting legitimately angry and trying to seriously debate and it's fucking pathetic.

And you fucking Toeifags are autistic too. It seems your sole purpose in life is to come into threads and start baiting the fucking retard mangafags. The fact that they're too fucking stupid to ignore your bait is on them, but you're the ones who put it out there in the first place.

I fucking hate you both equally. I just want a goddamn thread where we can talk about Dragon Ball. Yeah we're stuck in filler hell, but you know what's better than "MUH MANGA!" "MUH ANIME!"?

Fucking anything. What-if scenarios. Who could beat who. Posting fucking manga scans is better for fuck's sake.

Just stop this fucking shit. PLEASE. You selfish, miserable fucking pieces of cancer.

>>156305859
There is some truth to that, he did fucking hate that movie. But BoG movie was already being planned before his involvement. I think the god form was going to be more bulky and have white hair or something.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4E83RKavUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LmvrQ8Cr2k

>>156307317
>Fucking anything. What-if scenarios. Who could beat who. Posting fucking manga scans is better for fuck's sake.

Okay then.

Bojack vs Super 13. Who would win?

guys help
I wanna buy the new kai buu saga releases, but I have an issue
I have the rest of kai on DVD already, so if I get the Blu-rays for the new stuff it won't match what I have already but it's obviously better quality
it would cost over $200 for me to replace everything I already have, which is retarded and not worth it so I'm not sure what I should go for here

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>>156307376
Are you the samefag who made this cringey shit?

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>>156307351
>I think the god form was going to be more bulky and have white hair or something
I was going to have a fucking cape. Good thing that Toriyama got involved.

>>156307378
Bojack. He's about Perfect Cell tier, while Super 13 is, at best, Imperfect Cell tier. Bojack is also smarter and more skilled than Super 13.

>>156307421
No.. I don't even watch Super

>>156307421
The Faulconerfag is an animefag.

>>156306909
So brolina fans fetishes are
>tall
>muscly
>mental illness
Why brolina fans? Why?

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This Jinzoningen walks in and slaps your Angel's ass, what do?

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Reminder that Future Trunks is the sexiest man in all of DB and anyone who argues otherwise has shit taste

>>156307513
wait for the punchline

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>>156307545

>>156307513
Is that

an evil Arale?

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>>156307577
Nope. She's just a rebel.

>>156307513
>A cuter, punk Arale
Make daughteru

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>>156307545
>>156307575
I wonder if Present Torankusu will ever be as sexy as his future self.

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He just wants a quiet life

hello everyone, how is ur day on this fine night

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>>156307376
>kikuchi
>bad
https://youtu.be/WyzDkdWgQvc
https://youtu.be/GcyqtFPahLc
https://youtu.be/1itDF84iR8g
https://youtu.be/pAGSmb-kiZI
https://youtu.be/5yKDnSahVXU
https://youtu.be/2hEnvkUJwhQ
https://youtu.be/VHbWVCz_E0I
https://youtu.be/iHvsLnqf7Sg
https://youtu.be/CuEe9jTd8b0

>>156307745
>>156307745
I love yukihiro kitano

>>156304552
>If the producer of the god damned show doesn't care about consistency, then that's it, it's done.
>If the chef of the god damned dish doesn't care about edibility, then that's it, it's done.

>>156307745
Is he wearing eyeliner?

>>156307796
Yes, it's fabulous.

>>156304552
>fuck consistency and coherence!

Hi there, would anyone like Japanese broadcast audio for the original DBZ anime series?

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>>156307715

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>>156305393
>>156305456
>>156305481
What a silly cat.

>>156307925
Shin is much cuter than Beerus.

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Colorfag here again
I changed the saiyan skin tone (again) and I know you don't care but if you want, there are different versions

Trunks hair: indigo or blue
Trunks sword: golden or silver
Black's identity: Zamas or Lila

Pic related is indigo, golden and Zamas but I can post other versions if you want

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>>156308050
He's also way more of a faggot.

>goku bringing the "bomb" to the usual place
>17 wanting to wish for a big cruiser instead of repopulate a dying species

Only in super you get these laughingstocks.

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Uub's gi should have been light blue like Goku's. Dark blue and orange aren't good colors for him

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>>156308074
>Zamas
FUCK OFF

>>156307773
all of those tracks only play like once and they're really forgettable

I cant even remember any of the Japanese tracks but
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C55vYFOEuwA
and
and>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do

>>156308077
He didn't have anyone to defag him.

>>156308132
Fuck me

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>>156308149
THIS. Faulconer reigns supreme

>>156308077
>West Black anon is also the Torankusu collage anon
I love you anon!

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>>156308149
Gotta love the Doc's theme

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>>156308303
I love you too.

>>156308074
>>156308343
Mai a cute

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>>156307773
Sorry man most of those songs feel the same.
It's a story of intergalactic super warriors, not scooby doo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9Fk6v5n-0

this track > anything in the japanese sub

>>156308395
I didnt even realize that was Ginyu's theme. yes it is pretty good.

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I want to watch the adventures of Green Uub

>>156308518
Shouldn't Goten be dead?

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>>156308579

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>>156308050
They're both much cuter than a good chunk of the other universes's deities.

>>156308641
pls Delet this

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Why were his genes so strong?

>>156308579
Goku's friends could just wish him back with the Dragon Balls. Black high-tailed it out of that timeline after killing Goku, Goten and Chi Chi.

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>>156308343
>>156308362

>>156308679
Because he am the legendary super sand.

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>>156308395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kWyfGPJcxQ

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>>156308050
>>156308658
This is how I see Shin and Beerus' relationship.

>>156308667
Why, it's just a harmless pic of Chichi and Goten.

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What's his name?

>>156308829
Klylynn

>>156307376
faulconer looks like jesus

>>156308658
Why doesn't Beerus help Shin out?

>>156308829
comic relief senze bean support man

>>156308829
Juan Sanchez

>>156308074
>Lila
?

>>156308866
He likes seeing Shin being incompetent and clueless.

>>156307887
What was wrong with this Trunks again?

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>>156308074
>Black's identity: Zamas or Lila
>Lila
Even though I hate that name, good choice anon.

>>156308931
I'll admit Shin is pretty cute when he's panicking.

>>156307376
>>156308149
>>156308374
any nostalgia for faulconer is overwritten by how mediocre and inconsistent the old dub is, along with the fucking horrible pacing of the show itself
kai is the far superior option now, so you better learn to appreciate the original music they put back for it

>>156308829
Bongo

>>156308948
He was a loser and a bitch compared to Future Trunks

>>156308074
Show me the West one.

>>156308984
But Future Trunks became a bigger loser and a bitch because his arc in Super.

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>>156307887
GT is shit, but at least it showed Torankusu shirtless once.

>>156309035
>GT gave Gotenks a shirt
Literally why?

>>156309031
No, GT Trunks is still worse. Future Trunks only got bullied by Pan once.

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>>156308740
Delet this. Shin isn't for much lewd.
>>156308866
He's too busy not giving any fucks. Also this >>156308931 too probably.

>>156308074
Please, post the other ones.

>>156308077
Her skin looks like it would have the texture of a muppet.

>>156304921
Look at the Cell panel, Toriyama is fucking marvelous.

>>156309018
What about Trunks hair and sword?

>>156309148
>Mahna mahna
>Buu Buu BuuBuuBuu

>>156308829
Kuririn Dumbass. He is one of the most prominent characters in the series. He comes up very often. And is one of the most recognizable characters in the world. You could have just reversed searched it on google,
You are the reason the west is dying. Yes you personally, KYS so the world's intelligence goes up by several hundred fold

>>156309246
Leave it as blue, I've always been more of a fan of it.

>>156309031
Future Trunks is stronger than bricks.

GT Trunks is not.

>>156309081
Just like Gohan, GT Trunks grew up during times of Peace and was able to live a normal life. There was no need for him to be a badass because nothing threatened Earth until the Black Star Dragonball Arc.

>>156308829
little monk with a hot wife

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>>156309062
Was Gotenks in GT? I didn't watch all of the episodes.

>>156308899
West Kaioshin.

>>156309292
Sword?

>>156309018
Ever since this whole West thing started, I could never look at normal Black the same. His green earring would look off and I always saw West Kai in there.

I'd like to see a recolor scene of Goku vs Goku Black but with West's potara like this edit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsujm21DMMY

>>156309386
faggot

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>>156309386
You're welcome for that

>>156309381
Golden sword

>>156307745
I want to see him as a dad, he can't be constantly apathetic.

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>>156309386
>that video
>Super Saiyan overwhelming SSB Goku

WHAT IS THIS

>>156309363
No, Trunks and Goten were about to fuse into Gotenks around the Shadow Dragon Arc to fight Omega Shenron, but got stopped.

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>>156304552

Is it true Toriyama originally intended a geezer and a fatso to be the endgame villains of his new arc after Frieza?

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>>156309417

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>>156309505
Perfection anon.

>>156309503
Yeah, but the editor thought they were lame, so 17 and 18 were created. Then the editor thought, "The villains are a bunch of teenagers?!" and Toriyama made Cell, and it went on from there till the very end of the Cell saga.

>>156308969
except kai is 1000x better with faulconer music

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>>156309424
>they didn't even let us see his kids when he showed Goku a picture of them
I'd love to see how he actually handles parenting too.

>>156309505
Yellow auras look dumb.

>>156309062
That was Heroes, GT never had Gotenks.

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>>156309031

>>156308829
Stronger than Gohan.

>>156308978
Underrated

>>156309578
Pretty much every aura and beam is yellow in the manga

>>156309574
willingly watching shitty fanedits of anything should be enough to make someone dry heave
also you're wrong
https://youtu.be/3nDC30IMeD8

>>156309610
Don't cry, Torankusu. This completely different person is waving you goodbye, just like your fake mother.

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I actually find it really cute how #17 gets along with Goku

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>>156309363
No but GT Gotenks is a thing in DBH and Dokkan

>>156309452
That still, to this day, pisses me the fuck off.

>We should fuse too!
>Nah let Gogeta handle it
>OH SHIT GOGETA BROKE
>Should we fuse?
>...Nah let's just fight him separately

>>156307376
Mark Morgan barely gets any credit for his role in Faulconers works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdlYhyXsBLg

>>156309681
I thought Trunks treating present Gohan like he was his dead mentor was fucking retarded too. What the fuck was Toei thinking?

>>156304552
>So stop wasting hours trying to prove random anons on 4chan wrong when they can easily just fucking ignore you, lol.

>wrote a wall of text
>cries how others shouldn't criticize the cartoon for the shit show that it has become

baka

>>156309744
If I remember correctly, Omega Shenron didn't give Goku and Vegeta time to fuse into Gogeta again, and probably won't give Goten and trunks a chance to fuse. All of this was an excuse to get Goku back to child form again because the writers were too retarded.

>>156309669
You have no sample size for God Ki users.
Those toothpaste bits look ridiculous with a yellow aura.

Was this the track that redeemed Sumitomo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9ArAlto578

>>156309452
>>156309599
>GT never had Gotenks
What the fuck. I was planning to watch GT down the line just to see what all the fuss is about but I'm starting to have doubts.

>>156309681
>>156309805
Fucking this, Future Trunks projecting Future Gohan on to present Gohan felt like Toei trying to force an emotional moment.

If I had never seen anything dragon ball before what would be the ideal way to watch it in english?

>>156309805
Toei were trying to show fans how pathetic Future Trunks as a badass would look in comparison to a well adjusted family man. You take away the power levels, Gohan is still a scholar with a family while Trunks has nothing to call home or a stable life.

>>156309912
I still fucking hate it myself, but Kai is your best bet

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>>156309909
It was so fucking stupid, Future Trunks never treated Present Gohan like he was his master.

>>156305901
You're one of the most autistic cucks I've ever seen in these threads. Stop posting.

>>156310006
>I still fucking hate it myself
why?

>>156309912

Start from dragon ball , then z or kai,z for the authentic feel or kai for the shorter version and never gt,NEVER.

>>156308074
Can you post indigo, silver and Lila?

>>156304552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3awqsTmXk

See this? This is the kind of scene we will never have in Super again.
The tension, the atmosphere...this entire scene alone is better than the entirety of Super.
Superfags are delusional if they think their precious anime OR manga is any good, it is nothing but a nostalgia cash-grab.

>>156309912
Dragon Ball, then DBZ Kai, then GT, then Super

>>156310017
Future Trunks didn't know how bad Present Gohan failed to protect the world after Cell. I doubt Gohan is the type to tell Trunks how he got his ass kicked by Buu in a joking manner.

I hope the spic dub of DBS will have better voices for Black and Zamasu than what the anglos are getting.

>>156310224
ugh at least post the remaster

>>156310061
In my opinion it's kind of a sloppy half-assed job and took away more than it added to DBZ
I also don't appreciate the English dub replacing Stephanie Nadolny

>>156310305
We all know that Black Goku will get the SS4 voice in the English Dub.

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>>156309838
>You have no sample size for God Ki users.
I know.

>Those toothpaste bits look ridiculous with a yellow aura.
That's your opinion.

>>156310154
Sure

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why was the bog movie SO FUCKING GOOD?
https://youtu.be/SrumNRTYhIo
https://youtu.be/y-gD8r0sgOM
it blows nearly everything else out of the water and it's not even close

>>156307317
Stop posting my copypasta in threads where it doesn't even need to be posted you fucking autist, I didn't make my powers open source so they could be used for evil

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>>156310083
>z in english
>authentic
https://youtu.be/fmfyp_4JpUE

>>156310346
I don't mind Stephanie Nadolny being replace. The problem comes when my ears got raped by Kid Goku being given Luffy's voice.

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>>156310224
>>156310307
>sword of injustice
>you will pay for your crimes

remaster fixed most of the horrible dialogue and still has faulconer

>>156310224
>intense staredown in the manga
>LET'S ADD A FUCKING STORM AND A TORNADO FUCKING UP ROCKS AND A YOUNG CELL PICTURE
>SURELY THESE FLYING ROCKS AND THIS KRILLIN FILLER WILL THE STAREDOWN MORE INTENSE

I hate Toei with a passion. Anybody who thinks DBZ (anime) didn't fuck the manga with pointless fillers is a retard

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>>156310428
>posting old shit from toonami

Here's the new and improved version.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NLr0ddXG70

>>156310346
>In my opinion it's kind of a sloppy half-assed job
I'm glad I'm not the only person that thinks this. Aside from a handful of VA's, everybody just sounds so lazy in Kai. Especially Sabat though, it's really disappointing. He only voices like 5 characters now, and they all sound the same.

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>>156310428
>that Freeza

>>156310545
I didn't really mean the voice work, I meant the show overall

>>156310349
Never watched that so I can't judge. Does that one sound better than the Xenoverse one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeUe1R_tEII

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The best of Jobhan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiwGNLj35fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X913eWgbSOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkuevzHrdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbrJcz-W7x4

>>156310346
hate to burst your bubble but the original was just as sloppy and half assed a lot of the time, and that's not even mentioning the large majority of the original dub
at least kai doesn't make you sit through padding until you die of old age or cringy writing
>>156310434
to be honest gohan was 9 at his fucking oldest until the buu saga, the fact he sounded so much older in the original was really unfitting
I will agree about her being much better for kid goku, but at least that's just limited to flashbacks in kai

>>156310428

>quoted post contains no mention of "z in english"
>hurr durr z in english

wut ?

not to mention I was talking about the animation style since I prefer z over kai, kai is annoyingly shiny

>>156310623
But why does he refer to himself as Goku Black? That's just a nickname made by Bulma.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYWQcv-MpY4
>FAAAATHER
>I AM SUCH A USELESS BOY

How many episodes until tournament?

>>156310685
He doesn't. There's literally no point in the anime or manga where he calls himself Goku Black, it was always either "Son Goku" or "Zamasu."

Sean is trying too hard.

>>156310545
>sabat not forcing some stupid ass throat destroying rasp for every character and can now act properly because of it
>lazy and same sounding
all his characters sounded similar in the original too, except they were also much more hammy and poorly acted for most of it
if you listen to kai in english and think they sound "lazy" I really don't know what to tell you

>>156310724

I saw someone somewhere say June, I have no sources to confirm it.

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If Trunks was circumcised and Goten wasn't, what would Gotenks be?

>>156309909
It was pretty out-of-character for Trunks too. He was supposed to have gotten over Gohan's death ages ago and he also knows very well that main timeline Gohan is pretty much a different person.

>>156310773
The fighters don't gather until the last episode of May

>>156310646
The original anime was made back when the manga kept running, so filler had to be made so that the anime didn't over take the manga. Blame this on Japanese Broadcasting Standards than Americans.

I thought Stephanie's voice work for Gohan was just a wimpier Goku. It works since he's often compared to his father despite Gohan being young.

>>156310792
He'd have a short foreskin, I guess.

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I'd love to hear how terrible kekuchi's music would sound in a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_s1n3ryhio

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>>156305344
>Goku & 17using a gun
>Riding the animals you're protecting
>giving an 8year old a bazokaa
>bringing women and children

Toriyama is getting back at us for evolution isn't he...

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>>156310724
5

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WOMAN! HOW DO THESE MOLECULES WORK!?

>>156310923
It makes sense that an 8year old has a bazooka. Goku and his family are hicks and a weapon is a best present a kid can ask for.

>>156305344
Honestly, this looks like a more interesting arc than what we are getting. Don't get me wrong, I like this arc for what is trying to do.

>>156310923
That's all to make the poster look cool, anon.

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>>156310942
DID SHE CHANGE THE NEGATIVE ENERGY INTO POSITIVE ENERGY?

>>156309828
Goten and Trunks were miles away and they went BACK to fight Omega after escaping. They had time. They just chose not to because they were literally dumber than Super's Goku.

>>156305344
Fucking Shueisha needs to hurry up and move the manga to weekly shonen jump.

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Post the hottest scenes in the entire series

>>156310668
kai is literally the exact same animation 95% of the time, wtf are you smoking
not to mention it's easily the best remaster of Z animation you can still buy, in fact up until cell it's the only 4:3 release still on the market at all

>>156310792
A better question is, would he have Trunks' fat ass?

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>>156311200
Anon, please don't remind me of that again.

Yamcha better get some action

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>>156307376
Faulconer's ost is so poor that it looks like it was entirely made in a cheap electric keyboard.

>>156311172
this wasnt very hot to be honest

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Y E L L O W
E
L
L
O
W

>>156310904
https://youtu.be/Zwx61nRIRQg
it's actually pretty great, you uncultured faggot

>>156305619
He eyes look off, they gave him wasp eyes instead of his actual ones where you can at least see outside the pupils.

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>>156310748
He voices a fuck ton of characters in the remastered dub (Vegeta, Yamcha, Piccolo, Kami, Mr. Popo, Korin, Zarbon, Recoome, Burter, Jeice, and the eternal dragons if I remember correctly), and the majority of them sounded unique.
In Kai he voices Vegeta, Piccolo, Kami, Yamcha, Korin, Recoome and the eternal dragons, and they pretty much all sound the same with the exception of Recoome

If he can't make his character sound unique anymore without "forcing some stupid ass throat destroying rasp", maybe it's time to call it quits.

>if you listen to kai in english and think they sound "lazy" I really don't know what to tell you
Don't know what to tell you either, bossman

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>>156310428
>that speech

>>156311456
I can take Piccolo sounding like Vegeta, but
>Yamcha, Korin, Recoome and the eternal dragons
If you think those sound the same then you need your ears checked

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>>156311435
Jiren's eyes look like they're just glossy black

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>>156311277

>>156305619
ayyy lmao

>>156311595
Yes. Listening to these scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNufccACQw0
https://youtu.be/XQEpSnvynPg?t=5
Vegeta, Piccolo, Yamcha, and Korin sound pretty much the same to me, with only very slight differences

>>156311199

The redrawn images stick out and are fucking annoying, just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there. I'd suggest to stop being an asshat but I know its impossible for you.

>>156311456
vegeta has a unique tone to him compared to piccolo that's still very distinct, it's more subtle but also much more natural sounding in kai
yamcha still sounds mostly the same but less over the top with the whole surfer vibe and kami is also unique since he doesn't usually stretch his range with either, korin is the only one I'll admit sounds a little too samey but you can still tell the difference between him and everyone else
and seriously, go to 3:41 for this
https://youtu.be/IuNlHCH3cSM
or hell, the whole scene and tell me that sounds fucking lazy, especially in comparison to the original
they were literal amateurs back in the day, even though they improved later on they were still bogged down by the writing and directing
kai gave them a real chance to do it all correctly from the start, along with being way more faithful
to dismiss it as lazy when it's anything but is really boggling to me

>>156311783
wow sabat just stopped trying

>>156311820
having some redrawn scenes here and there is a minor flaw in comparison to the overall dumpster fire of a production the original was, hell some of them are actually well done
kai as a whole is full of minor flaws, but it's still far more enjoyable to actually watch compared to the original in nearly all aspects
minor flaws can be overlooked, pacing that's even worse than the memes made about it and literal amateur dubbing can not

>>156309912
Whats stopping you from watching the sub?

>>156305521
wow those are pretty detailed storyboards

>>156310224
Schemel is fucking cringey , holy shit.

>>156310381
I love
Norihito Sumitomo Sama

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Another one

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>>156312306

>>156305087
It has to be a different pic. See the arm? The hand isn't even close to the same.

>>156312126
>watching subtitled stuff willingly
>watching an action show with subtitles willingly
>watching dbz with subtitles willingly
why
might as well read the manga in that case

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>>156312337
>>156312306

>>156312342
What would be wrong with reading the manga?

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>>156311172
https://youtu.be/Dx94eP--fHk

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>>156312306
>>156312337
>>156312377
I really love Cabba

>>156312386
nothing
I just don't see why people would watch subs for anything these days when dubs are better than ever, hell even shit like keijo and maid dragon got good dubs relatively fast

>>156304552
People try to make sense about the things they care about independently of the possibility of arriving to a conclusion (god, standard model, power levels). If you don't, then you either don't care about DBS as much as the people arguing, or you are intellectually lazy if not lacking intellect. Considering debating on itself seems to bother you, I'd say it's the latter.

>>156312417
Can you do platinum blonde hair like Goku in the Cell saga?

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Reminder that her vagina is the reason why DB is even happening in-universe.

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>>156311172

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Whoops I forgot the pupils

>>156312417
Why?

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>>156312628

>>156312628
Would you be willing to do a small color edit?

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>>156312556
Like this?

>>156312644
Why not?

>>156312586
I want to spank that monkey.

>>156312695
Perfect thanks anon

>>156312445
>these days when dubs are better than ever
>these days
Exactly. One can wacth the kai dub, knowing that the lines are very close to the original . The lines are changed only to comply with the lip flaps, (and obviously sama chan kun etc are removed). The original z dub was made with censorship in mind. Many names were changed (hero shen, krillin kuririn, tien, tenshinhan, kaioshin, supreme kai, kikoho, tri beam, ROSAT, HTC, and many more). The replacement track was made and placed with the thought that americans could not handle long periods of silence. Another thing was that the dub was made with little regard to accuracy to the original, as proven by the previously mentioned name changes. A famous example is gokus speech on namek. "I am the super saiyan , Son Goku" became "Ally to good, nightmare to you". Its also worth noting how gokus personality went from reckless country bumpkin who loves to basically superman.
Today replacement tracks are not even a thing. Today unnecessary name changes would be thought of as blasphemous. So would a replacement track.
Don't wanna worry about any of this? Watch the sub then.

>>156312556
>platinum blonde hair like Goku in the Cell saga
what happened to that anyway?

>>156312407
Why is this hot?

>>156312818
yeah but kai exists, so I don't see why you wouldn't watch that besides for nostalgia reasons if you want english
it's also just better than the original as a whole, the pacing really makes a humongous difference
I honestly think Kai is one of the best things to happen to dbz

>>156311430
puts me to sleep honestly

>>156312027
>stopped trying
he learned how to act
forcing silly voices doesn't help anyone