20 Years later, is Kenshin still GOAT Tier protagonist and Manga?

>you just realize that Kenshin is the embodiment of the modernist values of the meiji era
you also realize that Shishio is the representative of the imperialist values of that area

>>156173352

Yea the manga is still one of the greatest ever

>>156173352
literally who
Gon is miles better.

>>156173945
I always thought that was obvious

I prefer Buso Renkin to kenshin

>>156173945

and Saitou represents the old shogunate values.

>>156174108
>Watsuki makes thousands of Kenshin spin-offs
>doesn't continue BR

why is this allowed?

>>156174233
Because no one read it, which is a shame, because it's a great concept.

>>156174089
Gon is awesome, but come on, Kenshin is nearly an archetype creator in the Shonen genre

>>156174275
I thought the guy axed it because he wanted to focus on Kenshin
now that Kenshin is finished there's nothing stopping him

>>156174089
>Gon is miles better.
bait

>>156174308
Nah, Watsuki wanted to do that Embalming Manga about Frankensteins, and then got roped into doing Kenshin stuff again and again to promote the movies.

I don't even KNOW what happened to Embalming, and I have all of Ruroken, Buso Renkin, AND Gun Blaze West

>>156174635
Embalming got cancelled. Even bringing John Doe from the one shot into it couldn't save it. The whole series reeked of editor meddling and it was drastically different from the one shot. It was also really boring.

>>156174740
That's unfortunate, I really enjoyed the one shots from Buso Renkin.

>>156174275
>archetype creator
That's Goku

>>156175014
Goku created the Shonen action stereotype of the good natured purehearted space cadet

Kenshin was the archetype of the kind person with a tortured past that makes him a total badass from time to time. Vash the Stampede would fall into this archetype

>>156173352
Yoh from Shaman King is better

>>156173352
yes

>>156175461
>Kenshin was the archetype of the kind person with a tortured past that makes him a total badass from time to time.
Kenshin didn't invent that trope
Black Jack is similar

>>156173352
Enjoy it while you can. The cheesy live-action movies were tolerable but it's about to be ruined by a forced sequel.

>>156175534
Kenshin is a better father though

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I'm at about 30 episodes in and Saito is the only lucid man so far, Kenshin and the gang's scooby doo bullshit was really getting old and I'm glad it's picking up a bit
is kenshin going to evolve from his autistic modernist retardation or should I just ignore him and watch for Saito and Shishio?

>>156175585
true, I guess I should have been more specific in that I'd argue Kenshin is what popularized the archetype within the shonen genre, which I would argue Black Jack doesn't belong to. Characters like Train from Black Cat, Vash, Kakashi, Quatre from Gundam Wing, Kyoraku, Urahara, Ukitake, etc. All clearly take inspiration of some sort from the archetype.

>>156175742
Well, your complaint gets addressed in the major arc right after the Kyoto arc, but it never got adapted by the anime, so after the kyoto stuff read the manga to get that specific story.

>>156174138
Who does Aoshi represent?

>>156173352
>not Light Yagami

>>156173352
>didn't like fighting

He was a faggot

>>156177146

Edgelords.

>>156173945

Does that make Kenshin a rogue anarchist liberal and Shishio a statist then?

>>156174740
Embalming was good; but it lacked Watsuki's creativity and art progression freedom. It could have been better.

>>156177451
you really need to read a fucking book
at least watch this so you have some background, it's fairly interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gURiHVTJX4A

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News about the upcoming new manga never ;__;

I always found that OVA that has him fighting for Japan in the First Sino-Soviet War disturbing. The Japs basically enslaved the Koreans and Taiwan as a result of that

>>156175742
First part of Kenshin is unbearable.

But ho boy, does the anime get better when the Kyoto arc starts

>>156174108

Buso had a good antagonist, a good waifu and a glorious homo.

>>156175742

Drop it after Kyoto arc. It's just horrible fillers after that.

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>2003
>Be edgy 14 year old
>Unironically think Shishio's social values were good

wewlad

>>156179446
first Sino-Japanese War

dunno what the deal with that Freudian slip was for me

>>156179547
Lol that dude was a radical

>>156173352
Yes he is. Because he still is fucking adorable.

>>156177719

> says to read a book
> provides a video instead
> doesn't realize they're both ironically the same thing

Lol

>>156179547
He wasn't wrong. In his time period Europe was colonizing Asia, it really was survival of the fittest.

>>156180244

So are you saying Kenshin was for westernization?

He didn't have a nice death.

>>156180194
Are you deliberately obtuse? Can you not read?
I included the video because it is a very good summary of the era and it's likely no one here can actually read for more than an hour at a time

>>156175742
Drop it already, it will never improve.

>>156173352
How big is the difference between the manga and anime?
I saw the anime recently and it was shit, but I liked the concept.

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>>156179878
What's up with all the crazy burned mummies?

>>156180907
well, most simply, everything after Shishio in the Anime is filler. None of it is in the Manga. The Manga instead has something called the Jinchuu arc, which focuses on Kenshin's past as a hitokiri catching up with him, and a systematic effort by people he hurt in the past coming for their revenge. It revolves around how he got the scar on his cheek, the psychological trauma of loss and being an assassin, and what it means to try to live with one's past. It also has some great character work with Yahiko, as he really starts to mature and become more of a "man" as it were