Kimi no Na wa / Your Name

>>155949334
that could be a placeholder date...

>>155949334
>theater showing until next thursday
might take a rewatch monday

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Is this the face of someone who'd give her virginity to anyone other than her soulmate? I think not.

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>>155949334
>Mitsuha

>>155949476
I watch it at a different theater every time.

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Really gets my old almond sendin electric signals

>>155949476
I just finished rewatching it. I got jewed though, got told on the site that it was subbed, was dubbed. Wasn't exactly bad but didn't have the emotional impact it would have had in Japanese. Though I at least now know what the dub's like, so I don't have to watch it again later.

That said, this being my first Shinkai movie, what else should I watch to fill the void?

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So I'm guessing the reason they scrapped 20-year-old Mitsuha is to prevent the issue of having 2 Mitsuhas in one scene (The one in Taki's body and the one waiting for him).

I mean, imagine if 20-year-old Mitsuha finally meets 17-year-old Taki, but it was actually Mitsuha inside him? Weird.

>>155949652
is there a source for that image anon?

>>155949688
MV version of Sparkle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Ze62AL9r0

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>>155949596
nothing will quite fill the void, not even his other stuff, it isn't as good, but 5 cm/s & Garden of Words are his best regarded works

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>>155949652
It's also
>less dramatic
>20 Year old Mitsuha has short hair despite the fact that Taki likes longer hair on Mitsuha
>20 year old Mitsuha looks younger than 17 year old Mitsuha

>>155949596
>That said, this being my first Shinkai movie, what else should I watch to fill the void?
You fucked up. This was the movie that closed the voids of his previous works.

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>>155949455
Why was this scene so perfect?

>>155949652
Rarest Mitsuha is Cutest Mitsuha

>>155949334
I accidently saw the dub today, it was alright I guess

the little sister wasn't as funny tho

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Just watched it in a theatre. It was raining outside...

>>155949794
I also feel that 25-year-old Mitsuha works better as an ending because it shows that they moved on with their lives while still searching and waiting for each other. If it turns out that 17-year-old Taki returned back to Tokyo and quickly walked across 20-year-old-Mitsuha, it would have unsettling and somewhat cheap.

>>155949334
Can't wait for collection of Your wallpaper. just like Garden of Wallpapers rar few years go

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>>155949921
>Cutest Mitsuha

That's not yellow-vest Mitsuha.

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>>155949334

>last week to watch it in theaters

>>155949738
I hope that no one who hasn't seen the movie stumbles across this MV. Spoils some of the best parts of the movie.

>>155950066
>absolutely no screenings left in my uni town

I made a huge mistake not returning back home this weekend.

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>>155949921
>Rarest Mitsuha

>>155950089
I haven't seen the movie and I watched the MV.
Read the book already though.

>>155949596
In the same situation, felt a little ripped off. KIlled the wordplay in a lot of scenes, and as you said lessened the emotional side. That aside, felt nice to hear the collective groans as everyone realized it was a dub

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>>155950123
At least you got to see it. I feel bad for anyone who will not get to see this on the big screen for whatever reason.

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>>155950202
And you haven't seen it yet because ...?

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>kimo no face when still no BD

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I want to listen to Sparkle again though it might break the streak of not watching Your Name for at least a year before watching it again
wat do?

>>155949596
>fill the void
Do nothing. You're in honeymoon period with this movie. Just let the time heal you.
t. 20 times rewatcher

>>155950378
You're just listening to it though, not watching the MV. Just do it, man.

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>>155950378
>mitsuha ended with short hair in taki's timeline
>taki grew up in mitsuha's timeline
KINO

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>tfw you've listened to the soundtrack so many times you're now sick of it
Fuck.

>>155950281
Because I wasn't going to go to a theatre in Japan alone to watch it. That would be silly.

>mfw i listen to nandemonaiya on youtube for the first time and realize i have heard this song a thousand times already
Thanks Japanese radio and stores.

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>君の名は
>君の縄

>>155949490
She's so perfect.

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>tfw no Mitsuha after Wendsday

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>>155950623

Finally caught it in theaters for the first time today, subbed. Will have to make a return trip to see how the dub is before it stops showing.

>>155949596
Watch everything else he's done.

Since you started with the best, work your way back chronologically.

>>155950027
Hell yeah. Though I will say that outside of a few scenes, this has been the first Shinkai film where I've actually not noticed the backgrounds as much because of what's happening in the foreground.

It was a nice change.

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>>155950519
>Getting sick of Nandemonaiya or Sparkle

>>155949919
Thanks for the phone wallpaper senpai

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>"Hey dumbass, what are you looking at?"

How would you respond?

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>>155950623

>>155950848

i love you

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>>155950848
N-NOTHING

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>Never saw her feet
I want to know if the manga is canon

>>155950742
Imagine having to write those intricate Chinese characters in the last couple of seconds before youre waifu disappears.

>>155950911
I must say, watching this in theaters after seeing the rip alone had its own touch, because everyone was pissing themselves in laughter. It made me happy seeing people enjoy themselves.

>>155950742
MAN HANDS
MAN HANDS
MAN HANDS

>>155950848
You

>not even /a/ is contrarian enough to hate this movie with me
Fuck, I feel all alone now.

>>155951066
Give it a few weeks.

>>155951066

dont worry there is always a few anons in every thread that like to let us know that we have shit taste

We needed more Mitsuru being bullied tbhdesu

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>>155951121

I didn't like it in theater. While trying not to disturb others, movie skipped through to the end and I felt nothing. And sound was too loud.
I liked watching it in 480p 3 months ago and had been waiting to watch it in theater everyday.

I bet Taki (Mitsuha) tried to suck her own dick

>>155951066
Funny isn't it? Back before a majority of the board had a chance to watch it, either in theaters or the rips, they were shitposting about it breaking all those records.

Now that most of the people in these threads have had a chance to see it, they recognize it's a really good movie, aside from a few militant shitposters who probably lost the ability to enjoy any form of entertainment years ago.

>>155951177
>caring about other people's opinions

>>155950950
It takes like one second to write すきだ.
Even みつは or 三葉 wouldn't be that bad. Most Japanese have shitty handwriting to make up for speed anyway.

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>tfw no gf like mitsuha

Watched it for the first time in theaters today.

If it was actually possible, I think I would go watch it again everyday until its stops being shown in theaters. I came in not really expecting much, was really blown away with how good it was. Just need to watch 5 cm/s now.

>>155951256
I meant the actual Chinese characters that were added.

>>155949334

I'm in no rush to watch a shitty gateway anime for gaijin

>>155951245
I honestly have no idea how people can do anything but cringe at how obvious and contrived almost everything in the movie is, and definitely don't agree that it's a good movie. I haven't shitposted it beyond that one post about feeling lonely in my hatred though.
It's a shame because I've liked some of Shinkai's other works, too.

>>155951324
5cm is pretty highly overrated. Several of his other films are better, both from a story and a technical standpoint.

Your Name > Children Who Chase Lost Voices > Beyond the Clouds > Garden of Words > 5cm


>>155951327
2/10 apply yourself

saw it last night at ward in honolulu
i was able to avoid seeing what the actual movie was about so i went in with a completely clueless view on the movie
it was alright, animation and sound were great, but the plot and character development felt rushed and not fully fleshed out
also, fuck you people who joined in on clapping at the end of the movie

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>>155951324


It really needs a second viewing, you really should find time to.

>>155951453
>but the plot and character development felt rushed and not fully fleshed out
A lot of that is just not paying attention to detail. There's a lot of little character tidbits you don't notice unless you're really observant, or rewatching.

I think for how short the movie was, they jammed a considerable amount of characterization in. The amount of body language they animated is something I haven't really seen in many other anime.

>>155951453
>clapping at the end
Thank fuck the early morning matinee I saw it at was only about half full, and nobody did that cringey shit.

You could tell ~75% of the crowd were properly suppressing their powerlevel.

>>155951453
>felt rushed and not fully fleshed out
The fuck do you expect from 105 minutes? Given the time constraints of the medium, I thought they did a great job with the (few) montages showing time passing and the development of the story.

>>155949596
Voices of a distant star.

>>155951587
>body language they animated
This. By far the most impressive improvement Shinkai has made since Garden of Feet was in the really dynamic character motion. There's always little movements and motions in every scene that add a ton of detail.

Really looking forward to whatever he does next.

>>155951597
>The fuck do you expect from 105 minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJBt2V5-Q-E
Are you really implying you need more than 105 minutes to tell Kimi no Na Ha's shitty story? There are thousands of fantastic movies that are shorter than that.

>>155951452
Don't belittle 5cm so much.
The artwork and direction were top notch. The story wasn't satisfying but that was on purpose. It wasn't like he did a poor job of telling what would have been a good story. The story was always going to be unsatisfying and he did a good job of telling it.

Post Taki and Mitsuha kissing please

>>155951597
>>155951587
i know, but because of that i didnt feel emotionally involved at the end
i was just pissed because i saw all 3 kizu's in theaters and no one ever clapped at the end, and no one sperged out either.
it's just weird because kimi no wa was filled with normies while pretty much everyone in kizu was openly weeb

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>>155951788
They are NOT for lewding!

>>155951803

because it's made for normies

it's the new ghibli

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>>155951788

how about taki fondling her breasts?

>>155949919
although cute, i thought it was a pretty weak scene dialog wise, unless you are referring to the moment before the talking with the background lake(s) which was indeed perfect.

>>155951884
does your elitism make you feel better about yourself

>>155949596
Voices of Distant Star and 5cm p/s are pretty close to Kimi Na Wa in theme. Yet, Kimi Na Wa is a far better version of 5cm p/s.

>>155951773
>artwork and direction were top notch
You can't really use that as a positive argument for 5cm, when it's a consistent feature of everything he's done.

Or are you actually trying to argue that the story and presentation in 5cm was better than, say, Beyond the Clouds?

>>155951803
The monogatari franchise is very much targeted explicitly to a weeb/otaku audience compared to Shinkai's stuff. That really shouldn't be surprising.

>>155951884
You say "the new ghibli" like it's a bad thing.

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>>155951755

i didn't ask for those feels....

>>155951987
im just saying that the weebs actually handled themselves like civilized adults while the normal folk act like a bunch of children.
maybe the weebs in hawaii are just of a different breed

>>155951755
I like furiko as much as the next guy, but there's a difference between making a caricature and trying some semblance of realism. Abstraction, emotion, and detail are all things you have to balance.

I'll defend Kimi no Na Wa's characterization to any end. In the thousands of anime I've seen few if any match the amount of depth these characters are given in the first half of the movie. Mitsuha more than Taki, but he gets his focus later on. Everything from her posture, to the way she walks, to the Rice fetish scene and the way her eyes dart for a second before focusing again. For a body-swap movie, having such recognizable gestures is even more important due to the fact that you're going to be watching characters outside their bodies.

>>155951803
I mean, for any movie people get involved in different rates. I got far more involved than usual, more involved than any movie has ever made me, and I've seen my fair share. More than 90% of /a/. I can relate to the empty feeling and the sense of being unfulfilled, and watching the characters made me long for that kind of connection.

Honestly, watch it again. There's a lot of subtle foreshadowing that people miss out the first time. I honestly don't know how people can lack any involvement in the film, with such concentrated characterization. But even if you personally are just broken somehow, you can at least appreciate the craft and the effort they put in to make the characters motion part of their character design. Reminds me of TokiKake, but with far more interesting protagonists.

And Honestly, Kizu sucked. I loved the original Bake, not so much the sequels, due to Oishi. But now that he's back directing Kizu it's these amazing Oishi scenes with extremely dull pacing issues and dragged out sequences, seemingly just to pad the movie. It's like nuggets of gold in a river of refuse.

>take the gf to the movie
>about 10 people in my theater
>all couples
>except one father and son
>dad trying his best to understand his weeb son
>goes full black during the movie
>"aww hell naw!"
>"da faq?!"
>the "I love you" scene happens
>black dad let's out a big "pffffft"

All and all didn't ruin our experience. Enjoyed the movie. Maybe we'll try and catch a second viewing.

>>155952058

Which theater did they put it in at Ward? I presume one of the tiny ones by this point.

I don't live in HI anymore but I still consider it home. Curious as to how it's doing there.

How many times have you seen it in cinemas already? 4 times here, considering a 5th.

How old is Okudera-senpai?

>>155952142
>>black dad let's out a big "pffffft"

Was that a positive, negative, or of relief?

>>155952263
5; I think I'll leave it at that, a nice round number.

>>155951987
>Or are you actually trying to argue that the story and presentation in 5cm was better than, say, Beyond the Clouds?
The voice actors in Beyond the Clouds were really quite weak in comparison to 5cm.
Beyond the Clouds certainly had a more satisfying story than 5cm but that doesn't take away from the improved directing from Shinkai in 5cm.

>>155952278
flatulence, so I guess relief

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>>155951891
do breasts become bigger when you fondle them enough

>>155952278
I think it was more to the tone of "pfft yeah whatever" because he had a good chuckle after.

>>155952263

Twice, considering a third if it's still running and I have the time.

>>155952363
Some stretch marks might occur, which will really ruin them far worse than growing.

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>>155952109
>I can relate to the empty feeling and the sense of being unfulfilled, and watching the characters made me long for that kind of connection.

same feels here, this movie made be realize things about myself and changes I need to make.

>>155952234
small one, but it was packed except for those front 3 rows where the few late comers sat. also there are five showings a day.

the kizu showings on the weekend morning were in the huge one, maybe a little over a 100 people showed up. but it only had one screening on a saturday

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>>155952142
>black dad
>with son

>>155952363
Just a meme. It's mostly genetic and random factor.

>>155952263

Same, planning to go the last day one last time to say goodbye. ;_;

>>155952293
That's the main reason I'm wanting to see it a 5th time.

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When I look back at this doujin, I do kinda find it funny that the artist makes Mitsuha prone to getting drunk, considering she chews rice for sake.

>>155952263
20 times.

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>>155949596
"The Place Promised in Our Early Days" is great, it's personally my second-favorite Shinkai work. after Your Name. It gets less attention on /a/ compared to Shinkai's other works though.

>>155952109
I agree that the character animation and design was fantastic, but I have a hard time actually believing a character is real when the world they inhabit is so flimsily constructed around the dramatic twists, and all the events in the movie feel like they're the result of trying to make every climax so over the top as to feel like a parody of drama movies.
The entire movie just felt too artificial to me thanks to the series of contrivances that is the plot, which ruined the believability of the characters.

>>155952581

not calling you out, but any proof?

I save all my ticket stubs.

>>155952581
Hi plane-kun.

>>155951066
If you had been in other threads, you'd have seen that /a/ has been contrarian about this movie for months.

>>155952671
I hadn't seen it until recently, so I avoided the threads. Good to know though.

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>>155952603
>another Beyond the Clouds fan
my nigga

just near-future enough to pull off the sci-fi in a believable way, absolutely jawdropping background work, great character development, and a great story too

one of my favorite soundtracks as well

the only real downside being his character design/art used to be pretty bad, so they're a bit plainer and more ...rigid? than newer works

>>155952575
Got a link to this doujin anon?

>>155952603

I remember really liking promised place when I watched it when it came out (also getting obsessed over that scenery porn), but i recently rewatched it after your name, and it just didn't have the same impact as I remember, and the characters were not that interesting.

>>155952671
/a/ Hated this movie until they actually saw it.

>>155952753
Take the movie title, replace "Na" with "Hon", and there you go.

>>155952623
>>155952643
It was 3-4$ in my country, so no big deal for me.

>>155951860
But they should be lovingly lewd

>>155952671
Really? What exactly did they hate about it?

>>155952738
Glad to see another fan too anon. I swear, you're literally the only other person on /a/ I've seen praise this movie.

I never noticed the character designs in Beyond the Clouds particularly rigid, but desu it's been a while since I last watched this movie, so maybe I should rewatch it to see what you mean.

>>155952855
nothing in particular since they hadn't seen it, for the most part, or hadn't seen it in a cinema, where it was designed for

>>155952855
see >>155952766

people were hating popular things because that's a popular thing to do on /a/

>>155952766
Pretty funny considering it's usually the other way around.

>>155950174
why do anime girls have two mouths?

>>155952927
>or hadn't seen it in a cinema, where it was designed for
Fucking kill yourself my man, if this is your last resort for denying people's opinions could possibly valid you're too far gone. Why would watching it in the cinema suddenly make people that didn't like it in the first place like it?

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>>155952917
maybe rigid is the wrong term, but his older character models were far plainer and more one-dimensional

the background work and story make up for it, but it's more noticeable once you've seen his newer stuff then go back to rewatch

>>155952613
I mean, what was contrived? The time travel? Yeah, that was a little weird, but it was pretty heavily foreshadowed. The time twist? The characters get constant hints about the time, from mismatched dates to phones to weird scheduling to the GODDAMN comet. It certainly isn't handwaved, they're just too busy enjoying themselves to notice this shit.

Obviously it's not as if the plot is perfect, but some of the contrivances people talk about are addressed by the movie, and it's not as if they're not foreshadowed very heavily, or hinted at. Even without calender's, it's not as if there's a dearth of evidence shown to the characters, they just don't notice or ignore them. If that doesn't sound like teenagers, I don't know what does.

>>155953021
why don't you calm down

>>155952830
Lucky. Have to pay 18$ here in LA.

>>155952931
The movie had a hard time coming over to the West outside of film festivals and cons because it's still doing extraordinary well in Japanese theaters. It honestly would have made a bigger success here if Funimation actually tried to do better with the advertisement, but some anons here prefer less audience, so in the end it did pretty well through word of mouth alone.

do we have a mitsuha BLACKED edition?

>>155952575
Sake isn't fermented in the mouth, man.

>>155953021
also if u think watching a shitty 480p rip on your computer and the real thing in a theater are at all comparable experiences then you truly are lost

Somebody in an earlier thread was speculating about whether or not Kinokuniya was carrying the art book. I can confirm they are.

Then again, they might have specifically meant a translated version, in which case no.

I liked it but this was possibly the worst Shinkai film. I give it a 6/10

>>155953129
shockingly bad take my man

>>155953088
Anything is better than a fucking theater. Besides, it's not like the visuals or audio are the reasons these people don't like the movie.

>>155953087
I know. It's still kinda funny though in a cute way.

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>>155953144
>Anything is better than a fucking theater.
Tell me more, Mr. Ebert.

>>155952363
>>155952462

Technically yes, if you're doing it the right way for erotic lactation purposes. But then that's due to milk rather than new fat.

>>155953138
What was so good about it then? It was interesting to watch but it doesn't leave you thinking back on it like 5cm/s, voices, etc.

>>155952917
>I swear, you're literally the only other person on /a/ I've seen praise this movie
Were none of you here when it came out?

Beyond the Clouds was good but Shinkai has improved since then.
His newer works are clearly better and Beyond the Clouds gets overshadowed by Voices from a Distant Star, which was his breakthrough sort of work, and 5cm/Garden where he really matured.

The music remains as some of the best though. Beyond the Clouds and 5cm both have that because Tenmon.

>>155953217
It leaves much much more. It left a hole in my soul.

I wonder how sake made of spit and rice tastes like...

>>155953258
Fucking how? Everyone lives happily ever after

Imagine getting to such a shallow and pathetic point in your life that you cant even enjoy THIS because of your obsession with hating everything popular

>>155953286
It reminded me of that feeling of being in love with someone, nothing else has done that for me.

I hadn't felt that for a long long time.

>>155953217

>It was interesting to watch but it doesn't leave you thinking back on it like 5cm/s, voices, etc.
This is exactly what it does. The fact that it has a happy ending (by Shinkai standards) has nothing to do with that, one way or the other.

>>155953219
I wish Shinkai still had Tenmon doing his soundtracks, his music was always top tier

>>155953286
>needing something to be sad to move you
how's adolescence treating you

>>155953294
Nobody is hating on it though. Some of us are just saying it was ultimately mediocre compared to what we were expecting.

>>155953323
I didn't see them fall in love at all which bothered me. I understand that the premise lends itself to being difficult to show their relationship develop to the audience, but they did a bad job of showing it. I couldn't understand why they fell in love with each other.

>>155953383
I'm 27 and the movie just isn't moving. It's interesting to watch once through and nothing more.

>>155953427
You sound very cool and aloof

>>155953045
>they're just too busy enjoying themselves to notice this shit.
Really? If you'd said
>they noticed but every time they woke up they'd forgotten that detail
an excuse I just now came up with you'd have made a better case.
To me it's absolutely unbelievable that neither of them ever noticed anything regarding the date or year. The movie could've had them notice and forget about it and thus follow the exact same story, but it didn't. Because of weird shit like this the incredibly dramatic revelations to the characters (I'm assuming the audience isn't dumb as a brick and picked up on at least some of the obvious foreshadowing) feels incredibly contrived, which is my main problem with the movie as those moments are clearly supposed to be the high notes.

I'll say that I enjoyed the calmer moments for the most parts, it's just the dramatic scenes with the ridiculous music and contrived setups that made it incredibly painful to watch.

The time travel may have been foreshadowed, but that does not make it less contrived in its execution. There are no consistent rules as to when or how it happens, which again leads to this feeling of the artificiality of the drama because its arbitrary nature reminds me of the hand of the author forcibly guiding every event in the most overdramatic direction.

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Can Mitsuha provide any form of reaction pic ever needed?

>>155953448
Yeah you can fuck off with these kind of posts. Everyone who doesn't fall in love with your favorite anime isn't trying to be edgy or cool

>>155953457

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFQKBqfEWE

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>when she breaks up with you
that shit is scary

>>155953453
yeah the insert songs were a bit overused

one at the beginning and one at the end is enough, we don't need more than that

>>155953476
https://youtu.be/OpwXATNGUsQ

>>155953508

I hadn't thought of it that way, but it's a good representation of that, you're right.

First time I watched it on a crowded plane with a tiny screen, almost cried. Second time in a big screen, nothing.

My friends loved it though, so I guess that's all that matters.

>>155951891
Is Taki a boob man?

>>155953591
watched it in the theatre for the first time i ever saw it and for the second half of the movie i cried my eyes out all the way up until the end.

i was watching it with my sister too. i wonder if she noticed

>>155949334
One thing I didn't get was why the phone entries were erased.

>>155953602
aren't we all?

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>>155953505
>her gasps and EHHs: protected

>>155950174
nigga prob watched that retarded 60 fps ver.

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>>155949334
>BDs will not come out until October 30.

Its only 6 and a half more months

A lot of people say "why didn't they kiss/hold hands/etc at the end?"
They just met! and Mitsuha is not for lewd, Takikun is a gentleman. Neither of them remembers a thing after the Itomori events, they've just spent half a decade feeling like there was something missing in their lives but not knowing what. They obviously fall in love eventually because Shinkai is a gracious god, but it's because the other person perfectly fills the voids they felt after the Itomori event.

>>155953602
literally only niggers and brap fags are ass men.

>>155953514
Zen Zen Zense was perfect for the montage
Sparkle gave me goosebumps especially when Tessie saw the comet breaking apart
Perfect soundtrack

fite me

>>155953706
The music cues sent it over the edge for me from great to something truly special, totally captured the emotional character of the piece

>>155953706
It's my favorite thanks to that scene.
>The vocals come back for the climax just as the meteor is entering the atmosphere.

>>155953682
this

it's nowhere near as much of a blueballing as the fucking Tamako Market movie

>>155953453

>To me it's absolutely unbelievable that neither of them ever noticed anything regarding the date or year.
I assume you noticed the poster in Taki's timeline that had "2016" printed on it in big block letters, then?

>>155953514
>>155953706

I don't know how anybody can believe that there were too many insert songs.

>>155953706
Every single Tessie scene gives me heart. He was too good for Mitsuha anyway.

>>155953514
I'm not sure I follow. The four songs with vocals were played at entirely appropriate times, each exactly once, and did a great job of adding to what was on screen.
I think one of the character songs (the instrumentals) got played twice, which was a little annoying, so I guess if that's what you meant then I agree with you. Gave the impression that they didn't bother to license/write more than a handful of songs, even though they obviously did.

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good night everyone, look forward to talking about this film again tomorrow for the final week.

>>155953505
>>155953661

>CAUTION: Use only under medical supervision. Extremely addictive.

What do you guys think of Mitsuhas bullies?

>>155953912
>and did a great job of adding to what was on screen
No they didn't. They were the musical equivalent of placing flashing neon signs next to the screen telling you
>this is a dramatic moment, please cry now
The music was fucking offensive.

>>155953958

Goodnight.

>>155953980

I'm happy they got to go on to live normal lives.

>>155953981

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>155953641
This is the one plot hole in the movie that actually bothers me, but then again

>it's musubi, I ain't gotta explain shit

>>155953981
>I prefer to get my feels by reading wikipedia plot synopses at my local public library
Then why are you even here?

>>155953912
In general, I feel that insert songs with vocals are an attempt to force more feeling into a scene. While I don't quite feel so strongly as >>155953981
does, instrumental pieces would have worked better.

>>155953508
Technically Taki wrote them himself physically, I don't get why they were deleted

>>155954059
>>155953980
I doont mean the bullies in the movie, i mean the anons that bully her in these threads

>>155953958
This too is Musubi. Threads will unravel and separate, but also return and connect once more.

Night anon.

>>155949596
Satoshi Kon's stuff. Perhaps a spot of Millennium Actress?

>>155954091
What?

>>155953453
>To me it's absolutely unbelievable that neither of them ever noticed anything regarding the date or year.
How often do you really see the current year being referenced in life? I assume these kids aren't all following politics intently. And the few things relating to the year that do come through naturally, like the comet or day of the week issues, the characters ignore for the most part because they really don't care. The idea that it might be a different time isn't even a possibility to them, they just chalk it up to being some mistake they made when the day of the week shifts. Really isn't that bizarre.

>The time travel may have been foreshadowed, but that does not make it less contrived in its execution. There are no consistent rules as to when or how it happens,
Because it only happens once. It's weird to think about it as time travel, even. Because it's not. It's just another body swap, but aided by Shinto wine, whose mechanisms are explained by grandma. The movie obviously doesn't have a lore explaining exactly how these things work, but you get a vague enough idea of why, as leaving the wine leaves a part of you, and drinking wine takes a part of that into yourself, etc etc.

It seems like you're more focused on realism than verisimilitude, but realism is never a focus in a film like this. Apart from long-running space operas, movies don't tend to go into detail looking at these subjects.

>hand of the author forcibly guiding every event in the most overdramatic direction.
Playing a sappy pop song during a disaster scene is over-dramatic? That's playing off the contrast, same as FALLING DOWN in EoE. The only part that might be overly dramatic is the ending, but that's preceded by a calmer section, and the point of the scene is frantic emotion. So it works, in that sense.

>>155953641
>>155954065
That's not really a plot hole, but it was kind of bull. Why was that shit erased? It wasn't exactly lampshaded.

I just saw it today. Damn that was good.

>>155953641
>>155954065

It's no more of a plot hole than time travel and body swapping. People only interpret it as one because mobile technology is ubiquitous and familiar.

>>155954121

Ah. I don't like them.

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did anyone else go out and eat one right after the movie?

>>155954163

>That's not really a plot hole, but it was kind of bull. Why was that shit erased? It wasn't exactly lampshaded.
Think of it this way, if you want: Surely you're familiar with the experience of trying to remember something that's on the edge of consciousness, and having it become more difficult to recall the more you focus on it.

>>155954120
>I don't get why they were deleted
Ever watched Back to the Future?

>>155954065
At the most basic level, a lot of magic shit happened in the film. All that stuff getting erased fits perfectly with what happened elsewhere, they completely forget about each other. The reason that it only happened while Taki-kun was looking at it, I blame on artistic license and/or magic.
The biggest plot hole I can see is why Mitsu-Taki didn't tell one of Taki's friends "hey my name is Mitsuha and I live at 6969 Itomori Village Chief Drive, Itomori, pls tell Taki-kun tomorrow k thnx", would they have remembered? I'm guessing not, as that was the whole point of the film.

>>155954224
because timeline was changed in taki's perspective
so musubi has to adjust the details

>>155954192
I got a lusting for ramen after seeing the Takayama ramen being drawn to precision. The way the noodles move and flow out the soup makes me hungry.

>>155942885
>For something that you say obvious, I not once noticed that at all nor have I seen anyone point that out and we're talking about watching it on a big screen. I still have no clue what you're talking about.
People can miss things all the time, even if they are 'obvious'. I suggest you rewatch it and look for the things I pointed out.

>>155942972
>Well it's a beautiful film in it's own right, and that was by far the worst offender.
I noticed at least a few scenes that were really really bad (for a movie with a director of such stature). It IS a beautiful movie, but it's marred by animation issues. Shinkai even said so when he was talking about the film.

>>155943299
>You can easily find the answers by looking at multiple lreviews on imdb, RT, MAL, and various other websites. I don't understand why people keep questioning why people praise it so much when you can easily do some research and find out yourself.
When I say I don't know, I mean I don't understand their reasoning. They can say it's Shinkai's best movie, but I think part of the plot was hamfisted, and it was too dramatic for what it was. The music (especially the OP) didn't fit at times, and the pervy 90's OVA throwbacks felt wrong. Did they really need to show Mitsuha's panties when she was running, and again when she fell down? Did they need to put in the homoerotism? Neither of them were plot relevent, and they didn't really add to the plot, and the panty shot was so poorly timed that it almost ruined the tension of that scene. The meteor falling to Earth was borderline fantastical. Mitsuha's reasoning for going to Tokyo made no sense. I could nitpick more, but to sum it up, the small things really degraded the overall experience from being a 10/10 to an 8/10. I can understand it being highly rated, but Garden of Words is a much more serious, adult, well animated, concise film. If you want to disagree then that's fine.

>>155954262
is there anything musubi can't do?

>>155949596
Any of his other works should. They're all pretty much better than or on par with Kimi no na wa.

>>155954192
>these two are musubi

>>155954163
>How often do you really see the current year being referenced in life?
Every time I look at my phone, or a calendar, or walk around my city probably.

>It seems like you're more focused on realism than verisimilitude
I disagree. I don't give a shit about realism, it's the lack of very simulation dude that I'm complaining about
It's 6:30am though so I'm going to bed. I wanted to at least read your response before I left.

>>155949886
>Someone who didn't watch any of his other movies

>>155954354
who are you quoting?

>>155954253
Taki fears that Mitsuha's friends wouldn't help him if he outright says he's a stranger insider her body, whether they believe him or not. It was just best to keep the bodyswitch a secret for better or worse, then because their memory of their other's names and experiences got erased as part of the underworld fee, the friends can't help Mitsuha any further.

>>155954315
Save Ed's mom?

>>155954262

Of course, the mechanical justifications all come down to a matter of paradoxical alterations to reality caused by time travel. But those are all metaphysical explanations, and anybody who asks "But why?" questions aren't going to be satisfied by that. I was providing my reasoning as through the lens of (my interpretation of) the movie's themes.

>>155954380
This guy >>155949886

Kimi no na wa isn't even near his best work. I only hope that he hires a writer for his next movie or goes back to his old style. I no longer have any respect for shinkai as a writer after kimi no na wa. He dropped all of the emotional impact that his previous movies had just to have a happy ending. Kimi no na wa was a failure.

>>155954192
>when you eat this shit unassembled and without seaweed nearly every day because you're poor, lazy, and Asian

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>>155954410
bruh

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>>155954253

Why would they do that, they both were enjoying it, and they had no indication that the swapping was going to stop. Even if it did stop they had no idea about the 3 years, to them, they could always visit/call each other if they wanted to.

the real plot hole is why didn't mitsuha notice taki was 14 and not 17 when she went to tokyo? she should have noticed that something was off when taki just can't remember her rather than just "he hates me"

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>in exchange for returning to this world you must leave behind what is most important to you
Absolute pottery

>>155954346
>Every time I look at my phone,
Either of their phone lock screens don't show the year

>or a calendar,
Haven't seen a physical one in years

>or walk around my city probably.
Oh, you're in Greenwich?

But either way, these are beside the point. The characters DO come into contact with indication that the year might be off. But they don't really think about it because they don't even figure that's a remote possibility. Weird new phone? Must be city tech. Mitsuha's comet not there? Who knows what she's talking about, must be a metaphor. See, even when she explicitly tells him, more or less, that she's three years in the past, he doesn't pick up on it. Because neither of them considers that a possibility.

If a little grey alien walked up to you on the street, you'd probably think it was a costume. People have to be receptive to an absurd idea, even if there's evidence for it.

>I disagree. I don't give a shit about realism, it's the lack of very simulation dude that I'm complaining about
I mean, then elaborate on that point. Because so far you've mostly been going on about plot "holes"

>>155954297

>Mitsuha's reasoning for going to Tokyo made no sense.
lol

Your other criticisms of the movie's writing and direction are ridiculous, but this one just completely betrays that you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>155954448
>KNN was a failure
Hahaha, yeah right, I'm sure Shinkai gives a flying fuck about the worthless opinion of a neckbeard gaijin as he's depositing royalty checks from his movie that is literally breaking every animated film record everywhere.

But no, it's a failure all right. Fucking kill yourself.

>>155954315
Save Uncle Ben.

>>155954611
Shinkai is literally the one saying that people should stop seeing the movie.

>>155954508
She did know that something was off and was worried that the bodyswitching was a dream this entire time (which is half-true) and he won't get to know her much longer, which is why she gave him her braided cord in hopes he will find her when he remembers.

>>155954601
>Your other criticisms of the movie's writing and direction are ridiculous
Oh right, the panty shot was actually deep and symbolic and the trashy frame drops were totally not because Shinkai rushed production.

>this one just completely betrays that you have no idea what you're talking about.
>ur dumb: the post: the experience

Would you be annoyed if Mitsuha visited you?

>>155954592
>I mean, then elaborate on that point
I would love to, if this thread is still up by the time I wake.

Why did Mitsuha cut her hair?

Sayaka says "why do boys associate haircuts with breakups," is it because her haircut was due to a new love rather than a breakup?

>>155954680

I would be annoyed because I would immediately realize that I was dreaming and wake up without her.

>>155954714
She visited Taki and he didn't recognize her so she thought he rejected her.

>>155954714
From her time in Takis body she realized shorter hair is easier to manage

>>155954680
yabai onnanoko

I feel like this film was super unrealistic and required a giant leap of faith from the audience.
There is absolutely no way Taki would do anything but masturbate all day when he body swapped. I'm supposed to believe he settled for grabbing her boobs? ABOVE HER CLOTHING EVEN?

>>155954644
That means nothing other than it's gotten far more popular than he was expecting it to.

Being an artistic type, he's probably far more aware of the various shortcomings in it than we are as mere viewers.

>>155954714
Females cutting long hair short is a character development trope that I fucking loathe, goddamn.

>>155954714

She had an extremely difficult emotional experience, and she internalized it by changing her hairstyle.

>>155954746
Wait did Mitsuha thought Taki was not recognizing her on purpose

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>>155954758
RUDE.

>>155954680
Yes.
I am in Higashimatsushima, not Tokyo. She would be about 200 miles off target.

>>155954746
oh fug I haven't seen it in a while, I thought she cut it before she ikuzo'd to tokyo.

>>155954678
Not him, but the 'panty shot' was barely visible, not sexualized in the least, and lasted less than a second. Plus she's wearing a short skirt and riding a bike in full panic mode, shit happens naturally sometimes. It's not as big a deal as you're making it.

>>155954714
>Why did Mitsuha cut her hair?
Because she didn't have her rope to tie it up anymore.

>>155954242
The timeline was still linear at the point though, the past wasn't changed yet

>>155949334
I fuckin hate the OST by RADWIMPS because I've heard it too many times. Will it affect my experience of watching the movie?

>>155954830
>Because she didn't have her rope to tie it up anymore.
whoa

>>155954611
>>155954644
>self-effacing artist
What's new?

I WANT TO WAKE UP AS A CUTE JAPANESE COUNTY GIRL!!!

>>155954801
If she cut it before she went to Tokyo she wouldn't have been able to pull her rope out of her hair to give it to him.

>>155954714
>"why do boys associate haircuts with breakups,"
it's literally spelled out for you

>>155954796

He also then very clearly tried to respond to her approach by asking her name.

I imagine she didn't know what to think.

>>155954846
it's good, don't be a faggot

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>>155954830
Holy shit.

>>155954846
I listened to the soundtrack of Aria for hundreds of hours before I watched Aria, and it didn't bother me at all.

>>155954796
Something along those lines. It doesn't really show her explicit reaction other than getting a haircut and being depressed for most of the next day.

I think another part of it was she spent the whole day looking for Taki and when she finally found him, she didn't have the happy meeting she was expecting.

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>>155954880

>>155954846

kek, yes.

>>155954903

You realize giving him the ribbon/rope was what started the whole cycle, right?

>>155954830

Wow I totally fucking missed that.

>>155954823
You make it sound like it was in there by accident. This isn't live action. No one was filming what just so happened to happen. They had to storyboard the panty shot, keyframe it, tween it, paint it, and composite it. It was intentional, it was noticeable, and it detracted from the scene. And it wasn't like there weren't dozens of equally good angles they could use to not show panties.

Please don't be disingeneous

>>155954836
Technically they were well past the date that she died because they were body swapping on the same date, just different years. His diary should have been deleted at least a month before.

But it could have been more symbolic of the musubi between them slowly fading over time and it got to the point then where it deleted the diary entries.

Either way it's not something that it supposed to make complete sense because it's fucking musubi.

>>155954942

>Please don't be disingeneous
lol

Says the disingenuous poster.

>>155953286
>Everyone lives happily ever after

Not really. Its not a tragic ending either, Mitsuha and everyone survived, but everything they knew or cared about was destroyed.

It's not surprising this film did so well, the Japanese love melancholy love stories like this.

>>155954979
>disingenuous
>Pretending to be unaware or unsophisticated; faux-naïf.
If I am naive, then it's certainly not intentional, but I would hope anon wouldn't think that a cartoon that used sunrays to block a nipple slip couldn't use a higher angle to avoid a panty shot

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Just got back from my second viewing.
>want to bring a friend to see it, he has no previous Shinkai experience besides memes
>call up theatre about the version we'll get
>dubbed, subbed version is three hours later
>ok fine, we kill time at my place before heading over
>get to theatre
>movie starts
>English
>already saw it subbed figured I might as well see how they did
>surprisingly, whole theater sounds miffed
>twenty minutes later, film abruptly stops and restarts with the subbed version
Bless you understanding theatre personnel

Despite knowing everything that would happen, the movie still nearly brought me to tears. Friend loved the movie, plans to push 5cm/s and Garden of Words up his backlog queue as a result. Have you anons been doing your part to spread the feels of Shinkai?

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Yabai.
Yabai yo.

>>155954942
Fair point. But speaking strictly within the movie itself, it's harmless and extremely brief. Plenty of other scenes sexualize Mitsuha more (even excluding the boob grabs).

>>155955067
I wanted to show my parents, but they wouldn't care anyway so I decided against it.

>>155955033

In that case anon, I will politely suggest that you're making a mountain out a molehill.

Sometimes, pantsu are just pantsu. Hell, I can't even remember, at all, her panties being visible when she fell down. I'm honestly trying to visualize it, and I'm coming up blank. And I just watched it for the sixth time.

As it is I assume when you said they're visible when she's running, you meant when she's cycling. Otherwise there's yet another sinful peek at a pure maiden's undergarments that I don't remember.

Tiny and cute, idolised by an adorable JS, bullied by my younger sister. I'd kill to wake up as Koma-chan.

>>155955297
>>155954922
sorry, cannot into reply

>>155951803
>actually being a weeb loser who watches creepy child pornography and can't understand works with actual artistic value
kys creep

>>155955185
It's not the sexualization. I don't give a fuck if the movie is lewd as fuck, but it was out of place.

>>155955245
>I will politely suggest that you're making a mountain out a molehill.
I'm not saying they ruined the movie. I'm saying that added together they degraded it slightly. I think it was a fine movie. I just think people praising it like it's the greatest thing ever haven't got anything to compare it to.

>I can't even remember, at all, her panties being visible when she fell down
that was a single cel, which is why I didn't really touch on it. By itself I wouldn't care, but since they did it just moments prior it made it feel worse than it really was.

>As it is I assume when you said they're visible when she's running, you meant when she's cycling
Maybe. desu I'm exhausted and can barely remember half of the reasons I have for disliking it. I just wanted to reply to the anons who replied to me last thread before I went to sleep

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>>155955067
Told my friend who sometimes browses /a/ to watch it, but he's a massive faggot and doesn't want to "reveal his powerlevel" even though he can just as well go alone.

Also told my other friend who has similar taste to me, but is pretty casual when it comes to anime, to see it.

Trying to get people together to watch for my third viewing, but everyone seems to be busy this weekend. Might just go alone this time.

It sometimes does feel like I'm trying to convert people to a religion.

>>155954942
It didn't detract from the scene because nobody normal even noticed it. You are just a creepy pervert.

>>155955397
>It didn't detract from the scene because nobody normal even noticed it. You are just a creepy pervert.
If you want to bait please do so elsewhere.

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>>155955297
Not a chance, buddy.

>>155955391
>Told my friend who sometimes browses /a/ to watch it, but he's a massive faggot and doesn't want to "reveal his powerlevel" even though he can just as well go alone.
kek are you me?

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Trying to watch this movie has been hell for me.

Went to a theater, bought tickets for the subbed version, but they showed the dubbed version. Went to management to ask what was going on and they told me that Funimation shit the bed and sent them the footage with the wrong labels on them. Some dubbed were showing subbed, some subbed were showing dubbed. They said that they would go and change the footage for our theater to the subbed version, so I go and sit back down. 5 minutes in, not noticing any changes, I go back and ask what was going on and they tell me that they had asked the audience of 10 people if they were okay with dubbed, and they said yes, so they didn't change it. Left pissed.

Going back Monday for round two, going to make a scene if they don't fix it this time.

>>155954784
And it never had any right to be popular. It literally has no aspects that beget a popular movie. It is neither coherent story wise, nor does it make you feel anything. It's completely base in both aspects.

>>155955347
>actual artistic value
you sound like a pretentious moron, bro

>>155955486
just watch the 720p, dont listen to the memes and fuck the modern theater experience.

>>155955391
>everyone seems to be busy this weekend.
Probably because of Easter?

>>155953706

The instrumental chorus crescendoing just as the comet breaks apart, and then the final reprise as the comet finally enters the atmosphere are both amazing uses of that piece.

>>155955067

I've asked my mother to tell my cousin/her niece to get her parents to take her to Montreal to watch it. She is apparently entering a full weeb phase, and knowing that, I definitely want her to see this movie. I'd take her myself, but I live on the other side of the continent.

>>155955364

>desu I'm exhausted and can barely remember half of the reasons I have for disliking it. I just wanted to reply to the anons who replied to me last thread before I went to sleep
Ah. In that case I'm sorry I provoked you into argument in the first place. I'm not even any of those anons you were in the other thread with.

You should get some sleep.

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>>155955515

>>155955491
Your opinion, which is clearly and objectively wrong, is laughable at best. Enjoy being wrong about this, like you are about everything else in your pointless life.

>>155955515
Having watched it first in theaters, then the newer 720 rip, there are several scenes that are significantly improved with a fuckhuge screen.

>>155955491

The trouble is that you're completely wrong.

>>155955591
>Implying there's any reason to pay for this movie
I'm not going to pay to see Shinkai's worst work, and I offer my condolences to anyone who did. Hopefully they get that money back at some point and can spend it on something enjoyable.

>>155955634
Solid justification there. Completely convinced me. Kimi no na wa is flawless now. Nothing will ever surpass it. We should just stop making anime forever and just watch this from now on.

Stop being a tard. This movie does nothing.

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>>155955454
Am I? Who are you?

>>155955486

You should have asked for your money back.

>>155955635

kekaroni

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>>155955391

>saw it back when the shitty rip was released with friends
>try to get them to watch with me in theaters
>lol we already watched that
>i don't want to watch that movie again
>that's not a movie you re watch anon

Fuck em'. Seen it 4 times now. I need new friends too.

>>155950687
That's a big Mitsuha pic.

I love it!

>>155955676
But you literally don't even get anything else from rewatching it? There's nothing new about it.

>>155950687
>Your Name 2 is a romcom where Yotsuha deals with the body swap shenanigans while Taki/Mitsuha giggle quietly on the sidelines

>>155950943
But... that teacher was Mitsuha's teacher. Meaning she died in the comet.

>>155951066
As you should.

>>155951453
>also, fuck you people who joined in on clapping at the end of the movie
"Americlaps" is more than just a meme.

>going outside
>for any reason

Kill yourself.

>>155955669

I'm not trying to convince you. I know there's no cure for your kind of ornery stubbornness.

>K-K-K-Kimi no na wa was a failure
Take that wank elsewhere.

>>155955391
It was a little out of place, but even so it was basically invisible and this kind of thing happens irl all the time anyway. Sometimes underwear is just underwear.

>I think it was a fine movie. I just think people praising it like it's the greatest thing ever haven't got anything to compare it to.

That's fair anon. I'm glad you liked the movie and are willing to talk about its flaws, that's what makes these threads more interesting than the average circlejerk.

>>155955722
>But you literally don't even get anything else from rewatching it? There's nothing new about it.
Have you never rewatched or reread anything?

You should try it sometime.

>mfw i reread WoT like 5 times while waiting for new books to come out and every time picked up/realized new things

>>155951245
Except it isn't enjoyable. That's the thing.
Narratively the movie isn't very good since there are a lot of holes within the story and a lot of conveniences that feel really dumb.
Emotionally the movie just doesn't make you feel anything. It's just one flat line throughout where nothing changes.

The movie isn't enjoyable in any way.

>>155955676

I'd be your friend anon.

>>155955515

>720p 60fps meme rip

I can't even watch the rip after seeing it in theaters, the visuals are so rich it's just a disservice to the film.

What's the point if I can't take screenshots and post them to /a/. Also what's the point if I can't pause, or rewind, etc. after finishing it the first time.
I'm just gonna wait.

>>155955819
meant to quote
>>155955364

>>155955830
You rewatch or reread things because you probably missed some hidden metaphor or meaning or symbolism or whatever that makes more sense to you now that you're older. Kimi no na wa is entirely surface level. There isn't anything like that to pick up. It isn't worth it to rewatch it because it's going to be the same, or even more likely it'll be dimished because you no longer have any suspense. You know what happens so the entire time you're just waiting for things to happen rather than taking it in.

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>>155955855

Everyone in these threads are my friends. Really these threads have been super comfy the last week.

>>155955889

I'm going to say something that's going to blow your mind.

Sometimes it's better to engage with anime in the moment, and watch it without /a/.

This thread is literally full of redditors and normalfags circlejerking, jesus christ.

>muh feels
>muh kino

>>155955841
Nah, you have certifiable shit taste if you even remotely believe what you typed.

Like nobody is saying the movie is perfect, but even calling it bad is just idiotic shitposting. It's a really good movie. Get over it.

>>155955921

Yes... I do know what you mean. I haven't felt this way since /frz/.

>>155955921
I can't wait for some of the tracks to show up in the next few Anison Matrix shows

>>155955939
it must suck to have someone standing behind you with a gun to your head and a dick up your ass, forcing you to participate in the thread then, eh?

fuck off

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>>155955932
I watch most of my anime out of season and on my own. I still like being able to watch it in the comfort of my own home, and since Shinkai's works are generally super pretty, I'd like to be able to take screenshots etc. anyway. Even if I don't share them to /a/ I guess. I used pic related from Kotonoha No Niwa as desktop wallpaper for a while.
Also, cinemas have other people.

What is it about anime films that makes /a/ use the English titles? Is it that if a director was established before more recent times like Miyazaki or Shinkai people will continue to use English titles just because nobody wants to refer to 5 Centimeters per Second as Byousoku 5 Centimeter or Spirited Away as Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi and look like a massive weeaboo? This leads to problems like having to call Kimi no Na wa "Your Name" which is worse on every level unlike the former examples which are fine. I guess you can be inconsistent about it if you're not comparing his films in the same post, but you can't just go around using "The Place Promised in Our Early Days" and Kimi no Na wa together without looking ridiculous, so that defaults to using English titles for everything.

>>155954942

There weren't all that many alternatives though.

The obvious intent was to show Mitsuha from an angle below her own POV and sligthly to the rear while she was riding the bike upward, clearly emphasizing her uphill struggle to reach the summit. This is an extremely common camera angle for this purpose.

The problem is that the short length of her skirt made it impossible to realistically portray any camera angle below the body without revealing a pantyshot.

And I expect Shinkai presumed this would only underline the urgency of Taki's rush to the summit; he was going so quickly he simply didn't care (and had no reason to, given that no one else was around). Shinkai (correctly, IMO) made the decision to take the better camera angle and the more realistic animation over temporarily lengthening the skirt arbitrarily for that scene, which would no doubt elicit different complaints entirely anyway.

>>155956024
Nobody calls it "Your Name" here. And who cares what other people call it. It's Kimi No Na wa, nothing more to it.

>>155956075
There's tons of examples in this very thread, especially in comparison posts.

>>155955953
It's not bad. It's simply disappointing. Of every single expectation I had it only hit one. The soundtrack was very good. However:
1. The visuals were not as good as the garden of words.
2. The story didn't make sense
3. It didn't feel emotionally impactful at all (even if you're supposed to ignore its flaws, as it's a movie "for the heart" whatever that means)
4. It didn't make me cry
5. I don't feel like rewatching it.

It's really not a good movie. It isn't bad, but there is absolutely no reason for it to be so hyped. Even more with the mainstream audience given that the movie starts with fanservice and interjects it at the worst possible times. That isn't something that works with a movie. In a show it's fine but a movie needs to establish its tone at the beginning and if it doesn't it already failed from that point. Open a movie with a pantyshot (as this movie did) and you'd imagine it to be an ecchi movie. Take instead something like Wolf Children, which has a interesting romance at the start to set that the movie will be very moderate in tone, or Disappearance of Haruhi which starts very cold and stays very cold. Kimi no na wa didn't even accomplish that.

It isn't bad, but it's very disappointing. Especially as a fan of Shinkai's works. I only hope that he either hires a writer for his next movie or goes back to his old style, because I really don't respect him anymore as a writer.

>>155956024
Normalfag shit, it's pretty obvious by reading this thread.

>>155956099
I am going to consider those people to be crossboarding faggots and then forget they exist - leading to my point still standing afterwards.

>>155956024
That's what the ticket at the theater said, so I stick to that. Plus it's less work to type out.

Just saw it tonight.

My god funi subs are absolute trash for the first half of the movie. Constant spelling errors and little attempt to match the dialogue to the character.

Pretty sure Yotsuha says in the sub "What a fool" at some point in the movie. She's a tiny fucking kid. What child would say this?

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>>155955990

>it must suck to have someone standing behind you with a gun to your head and a dick up your ass, forcing you to participate in the thread then, eh?

>>155956019

Of course, I understand wanting to take screenshots, but you'll be able to do that later anyway. And it's exactly because of the visual quality of Shinkai's works that you should take the opportunity to watch this on a giant screen. It hasn't received inordinate critical praise about its looks for nothing.

>Also, cinemas have other people.
Here I suspect I'll have a harder time convincing you, but I'll just say my audience experiences so far have been mostly good/great. That means they've been engaged in and reacting to the movie, mind you.

In any case, if you go during this coming week, I'm sure the cinema halls will be next to empty.

>>155955908
>You rewatch or reread things because you probably missed some hidden metaphor or meaning or symbolism or whatever that makes more sense to you now that you're older.
Or because there are things hidden that you only pick up from prior knowledge because your memory isn't perfect.

>>155955491

While there is always a bit less to the notion of "popular wisdom" as people might seem to believe, I think it should be reasonably clear that this movie made *a lot of people* feel things, and the scale of its financial success and the general tone of discussion of these threads should serve as exhibits A and B in that regard.

To argue against that is to make perhaps the ultimate "No True Scotsman" fallacy, as no logical argument can be made that it has "no aspects that beget a popular movie." By every metric, from sales to reviews, it has been an enormous and undeniable success and has been enormously popular.

The truth hurts sometimes, anon.

>>155956228
If your memory isn't perfect you won't remember it the 2nd time around either. If you forgot it then you forgot it because it wasn't memorable. Seeing it a 2nd time won't make it any more memorable.
What could possibly be hidden? There were no background cameos, no hidden references, nothing that could be missed as long as you were paying attention. There is no value to rewatching this movie.

>>155956024
>"The Place Promised in Our Early Days"
That's why I use Beyond the Clouds and 5cm.
People in Japan call 5cm, 5センチ anyway. No one goes around saying Byousoku 5 Centimeter.

I've actually never seen a more cancerous fanbase, and that includes jojo.

>>155955674
I did, got free tickets for monday too, but fuck the 40 minutes drive and tolls I had to pay. Not worth.

It's in theaters? Fuck my life I have no money man.

>>155956276
>no hidden references, nothing that could be missed as long as you were paying attention
So you picked up everything that has been mentioned in these threads on the first viewing?

>>155956238
But how then? What am I supposed to feel? The movie never felt like it did anything to change what I was thinking in the moment. It simply existed and I watched it. It was pretty and had good music, but I can't say anything else about it simply because it wasn't memorable nor did it make me feel anything, and I don't understand how it made others feel anything.
Even more so because Shinkai's other works were significantly more emotionally impactful. There he knew exactly how to present the movie to really make it hit hard, and it did. Here it didn't, so why all of a sudden is this the movie that got big, and not his other more critically acclaimed works?

>>155956185

>What child would say this?
I'm sure Obaa-san said it many times about her son-in-law. It didn't strike me as strange, and the line consistently has gotten laughs from audiences.

You might've had a meltdown if you heard what she says there in the dub.

>>155956323

Ah, that's a bummer then.

Just got back from seeing it with a friend. He loved it.

>going to the cinema to watch anime in a room full of people

Wait, I genuinely thought this was just a meme for the longest time. You guys don't seriously do this, do you?

>>155956367
r u a grill?

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>>155956372
>in a room full of people
>full of people

>>155955908

Or because you want to re-experience the way it made you feel, to the extent possible. I've re-read large segments of books/manga I read as a kid like Harry Potter or Negima not because I missed anything deep, but because it reminds me how I felt when I first read them and because I honestly just like reading them.

>>155956346
I try to pay attention when watching stuff, yes. Maybe I might miss something because I'm not Japanese nor can I speak the language, but I'm not going to notice that on a rewatch anyway because when I do I still have yet to become Japanese or learn the language.
I'm not insulting you in any respect here, but I feel like if you missed these things then you simply might not have been paying attention.