>I MUST DESTROY ALL EVIL IN THE WORLD >you are now

Lelouch would fit better than Kiritsugu.

Good job you fucking manchild

You must all come to realize that HF Shirou is Angra Mainyu. If we go by the Grail's logic in its dialogue with Kiritsugu, this is an absolute truth. He would kill everyone in the world to protect Sakura.

>>155910826
He only "kills" Saber, and that's because he was hard pressed to do it.
Even in HF, Shirou is several times a greater man than his edgelord dad was.

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>>155911528
>Shirou is several times a greater man than his edgelord dad was
Irrelevant. Still Angra Mainyu.

>>155911604
Not in HF.

>>155911695
Yes, in HF. He's willing to sacrifice the entire world to save Sakura. He's doing what Kiritsugu figured out was fucking wrong. It's never stated in the narration because the narrator is Shirou, and Shirou isn't conscious of it; in the same way that Kiritsugu wasn't conscious of the end of his wish, either.

>>155911753
>Shirou is AM
>Kirei's entire character arc ceases to make sense
>Sakura's entire character arc ceases to make sense
Damn, even Nasu himself would be jalous of those writing skills.
Can I get a signed copy of your headcanon?

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>>155911814
>Kirei
A blank slate with an absolute nature was born into the world. It was taught certain virtues. It rejected them for its own desires. It chooses to forgive itself. He got his answers. Shirou is evil, by his definition of evil.

>Sakura
Is not a character. And is not relevant - that's like saying Irisviel is invalidated by Kiritsugu's decision. I have absolutely no intention of turning a thread about Kiritsugu into a discussion of her super-deep and super-important existence.


On a different level, think about it like this: Kirei wished for Angra Mainyu's birth at the end of the Fourth HGW. At the end of the Fourth HGW, the blank slate called Shirou was born.

>>155910826
isn't angra mainyu defined by a direct inclination/ desire to do evil and cause harm by nature?

>>155912219
>HF's ending is Kirei fighting Angra Mainyu to the death, to prevent Angra Mainyu from killing Angra Mainyu before Angra Mainyu is born, so he can witness Angra Mainyu's birth.
Makes complete sense!

>>155913800
>a [1]6 year-old Japanese ginger high school student manages to save the world because his future self shows up and is a superhero but gets killed and he gives his arm to his younger self so he can do superhero things, and then he beats up Heracles and King Arthur and stops the apocalypse by himself
Don't fuck with me.

The irony is that Kirei doesn't understand that his wish has already been fulfilled and he is watching it unfold; but, by his failure to understand this, he is the cause of the fulfilment of the solution. The demon could never answer his question, but Shirou could.

>>155912219
>At the end of the Fourth HGW, the blank slate called Shirou was born.
No he wasn't. Shirou was already a young child by the end of the fourth war.

>>155914501
Yes, he was. Pay attention to details. His soul itself was reduced to nothing in the fire. I seem to recall that Shirou even says, in the VN, that "Emiya Shirou was born that day."

>>155914767
Who was the mother then?

>>155914981
Are you stupid? Read Fate route again.

>>155915502
So basically, you've run out of answers? Because otherwise, you'd point out something specific.

>>155915761
The novel explicitly says that Shirou was born on the day of the fire. It is repeatedly mentioned that Shirou is a blank slate. I have already said this. Fuck off and die.

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>>155912219
>Is not a character. And is not relevant
Let me guess, you skipped all the "cooking scenes" and "bed scenes"? Sakura is easily among the top 3 most developed F/SN characters, right behind Shirou/Archer and Kotomine.

>>155915822
That's not possible. Look at how old he is when Kiritsugu saves him.