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When will best villain return to super?
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threadly reminder that gt is trash
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threadly reminder Super is shit
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Threadly reminder that whilst both are shit, GT is better than Super.

GT gave us Gogeta and SSJ4.
Super gave us nothing but cancer.
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>>155850501
>GT gave us Gogeta and SSJ4.
This is a bad thing you idiot.
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>Accurate chart

Explain how it's not

>inb4 Saiyan Grades are different forms
nigga cell could fuck his muscles up too doesn't mean he changed into a new form
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What do you think about the intergalactic poachers designs?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBAu-nUzcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRf41NO3Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClQy9Wj-uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsYmjmga_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVtaUL7pnes

How can japs even compete?
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>>155850115
But that's not a pic of Tao Pai Pai.
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>>155850743
You mean Mercenary Tao.
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>>155850663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqzpYZMB1X8
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Super is better than GT:

Because it has a much more original and unexpected flair to it. After the "so weird and wacky!! XD" first handful of episodes that GT had (Pan, Trunks and Goku) that TRIED to be weird and crazy, it went straight into DBZ 2.0 with over the top, awfully designed forms and enemies.
Super has a kind of weirdness thats entirely Toriyama's mind, and isnt just for the sake of it. The Gods look weird. Zeno looks weird. Hell, even Jaco. But they're not there for comedy, it's Toriyama's originality and strange ideas coming through and actually shaping the story. GTs villains were like the movie villains. Musclebound, predictable, and edgy.

Also, because it doesn't keep up the constant desire for "transformations" and "forms" that people seem to expect of DB now. The newest "form", SSJ Blue, is just Super Saiyan with godly, cosmic energy. It's easy to draw, its simple, and it doesnt distract from shit. I guess the last form was Super Saiyan Rage, that halfway point between SSJ and Blue, but it's fun to imagine that thats the form Vegeta and Goku had before they learnt Super Saiyan Blue.

And finally, it isn’t as depressing. This is more of a personal issue, but nobody wants to see great characters like Krillin and Tien and Piccolo either really really old, or completely useless. Krillin and Piccolo are arguably part of the 6 main DB characters, and in GT they did fuck all. They're not exactly major in Super either but at least they're there for what their worth.

It's all about what you like about Dragon Ball. Either you love the wacky world of Toriyama and his imagination, or you enjoy power levels, Bruce Faulconer, and new forms.
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>>155850770
jump off a cliff.
You literally want to cling on to mistakes made by funi. General tao. Woops he is not of the RRA. uhhh uhuh uhuuh...... MERCANAARY TAO.
You prolly also say hero instead of shen. Another funi mistake.
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>>155850770
I mean your mother riding my dick, retard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBnlOtDWCs&index=6&list=PLpbe3Nw87puNL06Ypobuzdo25xakIrBu_

Has anyone seen this? They're pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0cfC-ldBj4&index=5&list=PLpbe3Nw87puNL06Ypobuzdo25xakIrBu_

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Img93faHlKc&index=1&list=PLpbe3Nw87puNL06Ypobuzdo25xakIrBu_
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>>155850845
>General
He's never called general.
He's called mercenary Tao.

He is a mercenary and his name is Tao.
Don't know where you get the retarded "Pai Pai" name from.

Hero was just a nickname given to enter the tournament. Just like Piccolo Junior or "Anonymous" Chi-Chi.
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>>155850659
Gotta save the fuzzy widdle critters fwom da mean space pirates.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMQA5bEFK8w

Really gets the neurons firing.
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>>155850917
funi had to call him hero. As crane hermit was called master shen. The people at funi wear so dumb uneducated and ignorant, they could not possibly find out someone later on would be called that.
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>>155850977
Stay mad, subfag.
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>>155850115
Maybe next time you can use this one?
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>>155850917
>Don't know where you get the retarded "Pai Pai" name from.
Americans actually renamed characters in their dubs?
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>>155850558
along with baby goku, super 17, and blackstar dragonballs


anything with black star in the name is literal trash
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>>155850917
the name is "peach white white"
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>>155851289
>anything with black star in the name is literal trash
So like you then?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-1PnMYoag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNHf2HKccWE
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>>155850608
Looks pretty similar to this chart I made a while back, so it looks good to me
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>>155851289
It's a good thing that you realize you're trash.
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Just few, of course you Falcucks won't enjoy it.

https://youtu.be/tco5Zx9haRA

https://youtu.be/5w_b6lSu0mE

https://youtu.be/CI8SzHziPWg

https://youtu.be/CKk42AR3PHY

https://youtu.be/OEPIXIJ6Skc

https://youtu.be/evyrnMzI2qA

https://youtu.be/HzpE9YiOTQs

https://youtu.be/FNnVuoOvEYI

https://youtu.be/Jo289zN2NEg

https://youtu.be/-mPG32lqgis
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>krillcuck
>those titles
>can't appreciate both soundtracks
Literally can't make this shit up.
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>>155851987
I appreciate what is original and not what some faggot who has nothing to do with the anime thought would be better.

>those titles
First result on youtube.
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>>155850898
Better animation than Super.
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Hey, so I just finished reading the Cell saga chapters of the manga and I really enjoyed it, but man Goku's sacrifice got me fucking emotional.

I threw this together and it would mean a lot to me if some of you guys checked it out and maybe gave me some feedback. I chose One Summer's Day by Joe Hisaishi, but this isn't the only scene I want to rescore. I wanted to capture the bittersweetness and tragedy of it all I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHM50itvq8g
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>>155852174
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>>155852174
Sorry but the English dub ruins it for me.
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38th for based Faulcochads
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>>155852338

That's fine. I actually debated using the original Japanese, but it's hard to find a version that doesn't have music. Both versions are good but Kai is just as amazing imo.
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>>155852410
You could have just muted the audio unless you wanted to have the voices sync with the music.
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>>155850115
He has probably long since reincarnated from hell.
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>>155852174
>Colleen Clickenbeard Gohan
0/10
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>>155851215
Yeah. They also renamed Karin to "Whiskers the Wondercat"
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>>155852547
He was a pretty evil piece of fucking trash, I don't know.
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>>155852174

all this did was just remind me of how shit Super is compared to DBZ
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>Don't know where you get the retarded "Pai Pai" name from.
From the manga, you dumb nigger.
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V-Jump leaks when?
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>tfw you will never range the shit out of parks together with 17 and Goku.
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>>155852288

ffs i just now got this joke
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>>155852753
I have too much social anxiety for that.
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Gohan!
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>>155852607
>He was a pretty evil piece of fucking trash
explain please
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>>155851770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGnL9Lk_4pk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4v9XIi674I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDgQ7eQr_yE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKbFoWCKvM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtevIlwMPEk
How can dubfags even compete?
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>>155853186
He's just a ruthless asshole who kills tries to kill almost everyone he comes across, including his own soldiers.
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>>155853265
toki wa uchi wa
lol dumb subturd.
Everyone knows having gohan speak at that moment is waaaayyy better than putting this song on there.

idiot
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>>155853265

>The Victor's Dance
>Trunks's original Japanese theme

sick picks
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>>155853163
Get those dumb sluts off of Gohan's waifu.
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>>155853466
>AND I WOWNT WATCH DIS ANYMOOOOOOOAARR
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Where are these dubfags coming from?
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Why do I feel like Gohan is going to be the most boring person to watch in Tournament of Power?

All members have something interesting going on with them, except for Gohan.

Goku - god ki, kaioken, instant transmission
Vegeta - god ki, final flash
Majin Buu - regeneration, magic, body manipulation
Androids - infinite stamina
Tienshinhan - solar flare, mafuba, tri-beam
Krillin - kienzan, solar flare x100
Roshi - mafuba and possibly a lot of different and interesting techniques, strategist
Piccolo - limb regeneration, stretchy arms, makanko-blablabla, strategist

Gohan - uhhh he's pretty strong? I guess? Not really since there's Goku and Vegeta.

Fuck I hope they either give him some cool new move or transformation, because I predict his fights are going to be a pain to sit through (Gohan vs Lavender was so boring).
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>>155853815

Dragon Ball has risen in popularity, which means a lot of casuals who watched the dub when they were a kid come to /a/ for some reason to dicuss the show, expecting everyone to agree with them.
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>>155850659
Leave those poachers to me.
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>>155854016
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>>155851215

They do shit like THIS all the time, and I hate it, being from Latin America and seein names simplified like that or callin Ten-Shin Han "Tien" just tells me they're lazy fucks and they consider their audience dumb enoug to not be able to remember or pronounce a name they hear if it's slightly foreign.


Only name changed in the LatAm dub was Chi-chi since that shit was (and still is somehow) slang of breast, almost as if she was called Boobie or Tit and they didn't want kids saying that shit out loud I guess, but Mr. Satan was ok (thank god).
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I'll post every bait so we can have an actual conversation
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>>155854097
>toeifags BTFO
although this may have become bait, it is clearly legitimate since it's merely a quote.
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>>155854097
party pooper autist faggot
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>>155854223
>manga panel styled tattoo
Embarrassing, in the manga he stated over 8000
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>>155853644
That was a pretty cool line.

>>155853863
>you're a casual if you watch the anime in your own language
What logic is that? I really don't fucking care that much that the American voice actors have bad execution and suck at their jobs, it's not unwatchable to me, and it's much better than reading horrible subs made by some random translator while an 80 year old woman (goku) screams like a mouse.
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>>155854277
see...>>155854097
autists everywere
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>>155854223
I can feel the second-hand regret from here.
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>>155854355
I hope that's an EXTRA LARGE fry, the only size that can capture vegetable's forehead.
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Hey warrios,
just a showerthought I had yesterday. Do you think, a fully charged Genkidama from the earth + sun, would somehow frighten Beerus? (Fired by Goku of course).
We know that the Genkidama is just as strong as the energy it has consumed. But what about the person who is charging it? Does the "powerlevel", or strength / determination affect the power of the Genkidama as well? If a SSB Goku would charge this spirit bomb like there is no tomorrow, taking energy from very strong creatures / lifeforms (maybe even universe-wide) - do you think Beerus would mind?
(It is another thing that Beerus most likely wouldn't let him charge up that amount of energy + I know, he would/could easily dodge that with his speed)
The reason behind this: Future-Trunks had a similar technique like the spirit bomb. Collecting energy from people, environment, hopes + dreams... and he was able to "oneshot" a weakend Zamasu. If we trust his words, he was stronger than the other GoD, since he mentioned he killed them all.
so:
Trunks SpiritSword > Zamasu > GoD
Gokus Genkidama > Beerus?
Opinions?
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>>155854470
B A S E D
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>>155853815
It's just one, or maybe two
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>>155854470
SUBARASHII
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>>155854470
STOP ANON THIS IS CUTE
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>>155853379
>Superior in-character Gohan telling Edgelord Gohan to stop crying like a bitch
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>>155854420
>from the earth + sun
I thought it was from life forms?

>but what about the person who is charging it?
When he used it on Kid Buu, they seemed to be each pushing it towards the other, so IDK how that works... maybe Goku was stronger and that's why he was able to push it into Buu?

In U6 arc, Goku's Kaioken blue scared beerus and they said that Goku could beat him with it, so by this point Goku could probably overtake beerus anyways.

But since toriyama just has to make every enemy into a protagonist or edge-lord protagonist they will most likely be casual friends and never fight again as enemies.
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>>155854470
How mindfucked would Vegeta be
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>>155854570
No it's,
>superior teen Gohan crying that older Gohan became such a nerd disappointment and never realized his potential as the strongest single fighter in the universe (after Buu absorbed him) he was never the top fighter in DB again.
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>>155854342
db super stopped having unprofessional subs in October. DB Z and GT all have professional , legal subs one can find online. Its been that way for a long time.
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>>155850115
If you're gonna be a homopedo, at least prey on cute shotas.
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>>155854470
>>155854592
Not only would he have lost to someone who looks like Goku, but is also a woman on the inside.

If that happened, the memes would have been hilarious.
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>>155854634
>superior
>couldn't save his father from Cell

kek
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>>155854342
It's worth the time to acclimate yourself to the Japanese dub. The more of it you watch the more loveable Goku becomes. Imo he has way more personality than in the English dub, even if he's voiced by an 80 year old woman. I'm totally ok with that, though, since he's an alien and it makes him really hilarious at times. Like against the Red ribbon generals and tao, in which grown men can't defeat a little kid. Asking "are some kind of monster"?
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>>155854729
is west black transgender? What were her(his?) impressions on being a man?
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>>155854733
>his father couldn't save him (or anyone) from cell
>his father killed king kai and the monkey and cricket because he couldn't think of where to teleport to
>gohan and vegeta had to finish cell together because goku killed himself
>gohan is stronger than goku but he had no idea what goku's "plan" was the whole time which is why everything happened so unorganized

Gohan did nothing wrong.
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>>155853186
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>>155854855
She thinks Goku's body is the most beautiful in the whole universe because of its power. So I don't really think she would care if you called her a man or a woman.
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>>155854470
anon does it again
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>>155854862
Gregory>>>>>>>>Any character in Super
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>>155854813
I have no problem with subs and I watch subbed versions of scenes I've already seen dubbed sometimes just out of interest.

But, the first time I ever saw DBZ (I had no idea what it was at all, only heard of it) was the nicktoons version of dbz kai, and let me just say, it was great.

That's probably my favorite version. I know it's nicktoons but that doesn't mean it's any worse, it seemed so revised to me and had almost no filler only one bad arc which was the androids up until cell became perfect then it was good again.

I got used to it like that, and the voices were unique to the characters and identifiable. The music was good too, there weren't many tracks though.
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How do you think Goku and Vegeta's final battle before their deaths went post EoZ according to DBO?

Did they both die happily regardless of the outcome? And what would they do in Otherworld, just keep training?
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>>155854979
Goku is truly evil for killing Gregory. I bet he planned it the whole time and pretended it was an "accident."

The look on Kai's face when Goku randomly appears with a 800 pound motherfucker who instantly explodes killing all of them, and then Goku says, sorry it was the only place I could think of to take cell.
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>>155855017
Goku killed Vegeta in one shot then he went to get Uub for his real fight.
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Why they aren't allowed to kill the participants? The universe gets destroy afterwards what's the point
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>>155850115
He was killed by Mercenary Tao. He's nit coming back.
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>>155854420
>he was stronger than the other GoD, since he mentioned he killed them all.
Forgive me if I'm wrong I only really watch the episodes once.
I watched this clip for a quick refreasher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdvdTOSBgUI
Black says he killed all the gods in the universe, I'm not sure if that means all the universes or just U7.
He would just have to kill each GoD's respective Supreme Kai to get rid of them.
That's how it works for Beerus at least and given how uniform the gods are set up between universes I can assume the other universes GoDs and Supreme Kais have a similar relationship.
Unless it's set up differently in the manga, Zamasu/Black would only have to kill 12 Supreme Kais, a task easier than killing 12 GoDs or he would just have to kill Shin if he only meant U7
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>>155855060
The rules are very simple
#1 You must launch your opponent OoB
#2 No items
#3 Fox only
#4 Final destination
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>>155855060
you get a better fight if the strongest competitor cant just instant kill everyone in .00001 seconds
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>>155853816
Maybe they'll give Gohan Super Saiyan God transformation. Bring that form back.
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>>155855126
Strongest fighter confirmed
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Wait are there going to be 80 people fighting at once? Is the stage big enough or is it going to look like India in there?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbYJD8tTR44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deLc_IXoP0M
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>>155855060
So the weaklings won't die in one hit since the strongest ones will have to control their power (and they probably can't sense how strong someone from another universe is).
Zen-O wants to be amused and seeing Goku,Vegeta,Hit and Jiren one shotting almost everyone doesn't seem very amusing.
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>>155855259
Stop-motion animation takes serious effort. How much time do they have, and why would they waste it on this ?
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Jiren is a Mary sue
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>>155854470
cute, I wanna see some Zamasu and West Black stuff.
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>>155855259
>not posting the best fight of all DB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Img93faHlKc
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WHERE'S THE LEAKS
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>>155850663
Faulconer is so good.
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>>155855474
See
>>155850898
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Can't wait for the latest manga chapter. I for one am looking forward to the brand new shitposting material once Cuckataro fucks up again.
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>>155855302
People enjoy doing things, anon
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>>155850608
It's funny how often Toriyama throws away old concepts and ideas for new ones. Ozaru transformation is rarely ever mentioned after the Saiyan saga. SSJ, SSJ2, SSJ3, are made irrelevant after the god transformations. If the DB canon lasted another 10 years I'd expect more new concepts.
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>>155855729
He doesn't have to fuck up for there to be shitposting material.
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>>155852720
Very soon.
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>>155850608
>Explain how it's not
False SS. Also LSSS2 must be just LSS evolution and LSS3 just LSS2 evolution, not LSS + SS2 and LSS2 + SS3, just like regular LSS is already an evolution of SS, not SS + [something]. Same with LSS4, it must be Legendary Ozaru evolution, not Legendary Ozaru + SS4.

>Grades aren't different forms
Then you can say the same with SS2 and SS3, "nigga namekians could multiply their power level too doesn't mean he changed into a new form". You knows SS2 and SS3 aren't exactly the same as regular SS because changes power and body in an unique form, as Grades do. Both changes the body, the hair, the aura and the power, both are different ways of improve SS (and Toriyama itself said SS2 and SS3 are subforms of regular SS, just like Grades are).
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>>155855729
Personally I'm looking forward to another classic like "e-emotional damage".
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>>155854634
>"superior" edgy Gohan crying because his adult self is happily living his dream instead still being focused in fights that he hate
Yeah, no
Adult Gohan is the winner Gohan, stay mad, kid.
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Is the manga written in English?
Are the sound effects like "shwoosh" written in english?
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>>155851289
Top kek
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>>155855398
Jiren hasn't even said anything yet or has a personality defined to even be confirmed a mary sue yet.

Only two characters that are REALLY fucking off the charts Mary Sue is Teen SSJ2 Gohan, and Future Trunks.
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>>155856331
What is Mary Sue?
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This is going to end the chapter. Toyo is going to treat the return of Vegetto like a big deal. However, he'll still be defused in the middle of May's chapter.
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>>155856353
Super Columbine 2 Gohan
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>>155850659
Straight out of GT. They scream Toei and don't look like Toriyama designs.
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>>155856353
Characters that are very powerful or relevant for no real plausible reason, usually shoehorned in as the son of, or relative to a major existing character and have no glaring personality flaws and are generally liked and praised by everyone in the existing cast minus the token grumpy guy.
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>>155856389
Why columbine?

>>155856428
You mean like Superman?
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>>155855060
Zeno wants them to suffer
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>>155856468
Superman and Goku are the main characters, they are exempt from being Mary Sues. If Goku was a secondary character then he'd be a Mary Sue too.
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>>155850659
Eh. Not very interesting designs really.
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>>155856253
Well, sometimes you must do things that you dont like to do anon
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>>155854470
>>155854973
I want to play too
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>>155856192
I don't understand why people found that line so amusing. Am I missing something?
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>>155856423
>Age 770 or some shit
>Not accepting GT designs as our lord and savior
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>>155856605
Fucking based.
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>>155856385
So the rest of the new chapter will be 40 pages of Goku and Vegeta getting rekt?
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>>155850659
Looks like a villain from Chrono Trigger
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Soon
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>>155856750
never
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>>155856692
it will be 40 pages of trunks doing nothing but stand around and note how emotionally damaged zamasu is
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How do you teach Goku the concept of love for Chi-Chi?
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>>155856738
Anon, I...
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>>155855981
Legendary Super Saiyan 2/3/4 are a combination of LSSJ and the regular versions of those forms, with the assumption being that anyone who can assume a form "higher" on the branch has access to the previous ones down the line, since Broly seems to have regular to a non-legendary Super Saiyan form.

I felt like just making it LSSJ having a line connected to each of his progressed forms, in addition to merging with a line from the basic form, but I felt this way looked neater and showed how shit progressed and was taking traits from the basic SSJ forms.

As for False Super Saiyan, read the damn footnote.
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WHERE ARE MUH LEAKS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UUgByRYgo
I love film grain. I wanna roll around in it like how we imagine rich people "rollin in dough"
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>>155856750
What will you do in June when Toyo reaches the Universal arc
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>>155856950
Enjoy reading it?
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I love how 50% of every DB thread is the same people posting the same things that they posted in the last thread.
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What are some of your favorite fights?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OMW7jVlRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vgS_eeyoQ
The animation here is really good.
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>>155856910
5 minutes anon.
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>>155856979
fucking madman
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>>155856918
It's weird how Toei put so much focus on Gohan in their intros and outros, then completely ignored him in GT

>>155856979
But your entire sense of purpose in these threads is to say the Trunks fusion is "Soon". What will you do when it doesn't happen and we move on to a new arc?
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>>155856605
Would've been cool if you had her in some flamboyant pose with the ki blade activated but this is really cute anon. Nicely done.
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>>155850663

Jesus, I never knew the dubbed OST was this good...
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>>155857012
Piccolo Jr. vs Goku, I love everything about it.

It was fucking brutal at the end.
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>>155857148
Are you even trying, kid?
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super saiyajin godo two when
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>>155857148
>dubbed ost

???
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>>155857148
It really isn't... The music placement is a trainwreck and it pretty much butchers 99% of the show
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>>155856605
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when is the new chapter supposed to come out?
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>>155850659

I like how this picture includes the word POACHERS or POACHING like 7 fucking times.
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>>155857008
>Replies:165
>Posters:48
Oh shit you are right, at least they are good threads...
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is there an ending song that is even worse in the db series? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zzraBWmrU
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>>155857528
>at least they are good threads
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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>>155857576
They made up for it by giving us a godly OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euC6N1NaIxA
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>>155857639
Yeah that is indeed godly. But do you agree that what I linked is a piece of shit?
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>>155857687
Of course, but I usually skip endings after the first watch anyway
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>>155857576
post the best one
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>>155857576

What's wrong with this? It's got a childish charm that works well with the characters that it's accompanying - Trunks and Goten.
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>>155857803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0hrcPFd3H0
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>>155856389
>columbine
Does this imply that Gohan would shoot up his own home?
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>>155855190
It's regularly used in the manga by Goku and Vegeta
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>that hair color
>scintillating aura
>actually strong unlike furry Goku and furry Vegeta
Was Gogeta a SSG?
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>>155857854

This ending is great because it's so reminiscent of Toriyama's original concept art sketches.

It's a little sad though, seeing them so desperate for original ideas and concepts from Toriyama. Fun to see them animated still.
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>>155858057
I wouldn't be surprised if the games eventually go this route
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbxukHERQLg
I always thought it was saying "videl" at the beginning.
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>>155857803
obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDGMF2TPgU
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>>155858057
If they try to pull some bullshit linking GT to super i wouldn't be surprised but without a universal reset i don't see that happening since Shin and Kabito are already unfused in super.
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>>155858357
If they make it that far, I think they'll just borrow a few ideas from GT without actually linking to it. They've already used Ledgic in the manga and that whole Mosco thing
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>>155858357
If they try to pretend that somehow both shows can coexist, then this whole thing goes to hell.
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Say what you want about the english dub, but this was actually a good tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6xycWwAxJA
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>>155856979
Based anon
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>>155857012
Piccolo vs 17
Hell, Piccolo got some great moments during the cell saga
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>>155856750
when the fuck will Kid Trunks get the fucking sword?

it has to happen eventually right? he's seen his future self's sword
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>>155858492
Never since Tapion was retconned out
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how do I get 1% body fat like don goku sama?
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>>155850663
>Faulconer
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>>155850663

How can you people like this shit. The original OST is repetitive as fuck but Faulconer's sounds like a retard with a Casio keyboard did it
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>>155858397
super is a gt remake
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>>155858528
Tapion can't be retconned since he never was canon at all
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>>155858558

When you associate a certain sound with fond memories, your brain tricks you into thinking it's good. Even to the extent that you'll humiliate yourself expecting others to agree.
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>>155858558
Do not reply to dubfags
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>>155858654

I mean, I get that, hell, I totally understand. It's why I have a soft spot for shit like the Ronin Warriors and Sailor Moon dubs and even the latter's DiC soundtrack.

But I just cannot wrap my head around the nigh autistic adoration of Faulconer.
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>>155858558
I don't understand the masturbation to the original soundtrack. It's filled with shit like slide whistles and this weird boinging instrument.
Only spics and fedoras like it.
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>Go to a chilean university
>People are rapping while DBZ Majin Buu Saga music is playing in the background
https://youtu.be/It-daXUtVkE
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>>155856605
I love this.
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>>155858492
He doesn't actually need a sword, though he might want to get one now just because he saw his future self using it and thought it was cool.
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SSAGSS2 when?
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Colorfag here.

Don't judge me. I'm bored.
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>>155858885

It was more appropriate for the old kung fu aesthetic the show had in Dragon Ball. Watch some old martial arts flicks, particularly the hokey ones, and you'll see. Now this isn't really appropriate for DBZ, which pulled away from the series' roots. Which is fine, but yeah, Japan should've updated the soundtrack significantly.

That said I don't think it's that bad; it's just repetitive as hell, and the new tracks introduced by one of the composers were mostly plagiarized whole-sale, so they couldn't get much use.

That doesn't make it an awful soundtrack, just mediocre (whereas it fit perfectly for DB). Faulconer's, comparatively, should fit if it weren't for the terrible compositions and awful use of the tracks throughout the series. They loop for days and they're so on the nose thematically that it's hard to even get invested in the show without drawing your attention to how terrible the score is.

But for many, I guess it was baby's first synth/butt-rock
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I can understand preferring the original soundtrack, and not like Faulconer in general, but you have to admit that at least some of his songs are pretty damn good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M954D_jyJbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywh53Gm_Sl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zefLAYM7XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHtuw_xtcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlj3NMKdcbc
https://youtu.be/U0fqMYiJO0o?t=95
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>>155859392
What about Heroic Trunks?
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>7 years between Cell and Buu sagas
>NOTHING interesting happens
>Just one movie set in that time period
Really?
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>>155859309
That thing would fucking blink and destroy the entire universe (And yet, a bigger fish would still exist somewhere)
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>>155859421
That one's pretty good too.
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>>155859392
I miss vegetas piano.
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>>155858885
Failconer, I'm Kikuchi
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>>155850663
Subfags BTFO.
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>>155853265
>>155851770
Dubfags BTFO
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>Faulconer
Emotional music that enhances the scenes and gives the show a much more serious depth to it.

>Jap trash
Outdated weird 40's beeps and boops and Looney Toons sounds.
Completely unfitting for a show about muscled super-powered warriors that scream, power up and casually destroy planets.
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>>155858357
I think the "GT is canon" ship has sailed long ago. There's way too much shit going on that contradicts it now.
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>>155859728
>Faulconer
>Emotional music that enhances the scenes
HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
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>>155859728
>this is what dubfags actually believe
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>>155859728
Nobody cares about your shit taste faggot.
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The Japanese soundtrack worked in DB.
I watched it in English and the music was fitting.

But it just doesn't work in DBZ, when the mystical adventure aspect is gone and it's all about sci-fi and action.

Faulconer music does tend to drone on for too long, but at least it has memorable themes for every major character. It makes various Super Saiyan transformations memorable and epic, something which cannot be said for the Jap score (which is repetitive, bland and boring).
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>>155856385
Hopefully he comes up with a better reason for the defuse than Toei's "oh uh....Potara was never permanent, only for kais LOL!!"
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>>155859728
>Faulconer
>Emotional music that enhances the scenes and gives the show a much more serious depth to it.
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>>155850115
wasn't Barry enough?
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>>155859752
>>155859790
>>155859828
>>155859891

Samefag
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>>155859870
If Vegetto is from Tori's outline I'm pretty sure that defusing's excuse still the same
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>>155859935
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>>155859935
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>>155850817
You are fucking delusional if you think super is original
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>>155850663
Awesome.

Gohan's music still gives me chills.
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>>155859728
>Emotional music that enhances the scenes and gives the show a much more serious depth to it.
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewzi45xuuzU
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>>155859978
I wish he did Android 16's theme. It has a very tribal feel to it.
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How the FUCK do you go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kZVH849Eo

to THIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfXvqUOJ2Ac
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>>155859978
You should check out Legacy of Goku 2 and Buu's Fury games.

DBZ music sounds great in GBA chip tones as well.
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>>155860104
the series has way more characters. the rock song is to hype up the new arc.
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>This is what subfags call "music"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcmzi9SYAk

Beep boop bap bap DOINK lmao
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>>155860194
Japanese music

>>155850663
English music

Hmmm.. Faulconer wins again!
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>>155860045
Fuck off, your shitty dub is only popular in America and maybe Canada, everyone else in the world recognizes that the original japanese soundtrack is better.
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>>155860194
wow, subfags have shit taste.

it sounds like some archaic 40's godzilla tunes
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>implying Faulconer's music didn't make this scene infinitely better than the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA-WIynIzzs
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>>155860297
I was just about to ask about Faulconer's music. Is there anywhere I could find it somewhere? Sorry for the /r/, just really want to listen it.
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>>155860325
.... You can literally go on Youtube and listen to all of it.
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>>155860263
Stop falling for bait.
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>>155860288
The problem with subfags is that they are blind to what DBZ actually is.

They see some "well crafted opera" whereas people who aren't retarded know that DBZ is mostly about fighting, action and testosterone. You need music that fits that.

Low-key tracks you can barely hear running in the background does not fit the show, neither does ripped men sounding like 70 year old women.
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>>155860362
pretty sure its the opposite.

dbz fans laugh at jap hipsters and largely ignore them
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>Faulcounerfag sucking hard the dick of his god just for two or three good tracks, even if the rest of their ost is total shit.

Top Kek.
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ITT: Subfags getting butthurt because they have shit taste

Feels good knowing I grew up with the best version of DBZ
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I like how these threads evolved from manga vs anime shitposting to dub vs sub shitposting.

But these wars will never exceed the manga vs anime wars because there aren't large autistic charts that explain which version is better.
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>>155860495
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>>155860454
even better they suck the cock of a guy who didn't compose barely music past the Freeza arc. It was mostly unpaid interns who did the music and still to this day don't see a cent for the work they did. Faulconer is a terrible person
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>>155859838
This.

The Japanese score is too archaic and out of place in Z.
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>>155860513
Anon, always follow the golden rule:

Anime > Manga
Dub > Sub
GT > Super
Faulconer > Kikuchi

Anyone claiming otherwise is just baiting. It's easy to pick out the trolls. Nobody unironically likes the Jap music or prefers grandma Goku over a correctly sounding Goku.
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>dubfags call Tenshinhan "Tien"
>dubfags call Freeza "Frieza"
>dubfags call Kuririn "Krillin"
>dubfags call Mr Satan "Hercule"
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>>155860379
>>155860532
yeah DBZ NEEDED a replaced score. That's why all of the European, South American, Cantonese, and Korean dubs NEEDED new music for people to like the show.
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>>155860194
Fucking awful.
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>>155860513
No one is discussing anything. The thread is dead as fuck right now and there's just one guy talking to himself and sperging out about "subfags".
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>>155850663
why does gohan get all the good music
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>>155860379
>subfags are blind to what DBZ actually is

holy shit . A dubfag claims to know what db is better than one who watches the original version.
(you) are stupid
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>>155860624
>there's just one guy talking to himself
Isn't that how these wars always are?
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Do you think #17 is going to mention his bro #16 during the next episodes?

It would be nice if he mentions him as his main reason of why he became a park ranger.
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>>155856605
Moar
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>>155860151
Damn, you are right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BncM16tslI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNF8Yb-UU4
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IT IS I, A NEW POSTER. WATCH AS THE POSTER COUNT GOES UP AFTER I POST, AND BASK IN MY GLORY
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>>155860676
>DBZ is not about screaming and fighting

0/10 poor bait.

here's your (You)
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Ok now

Hear me out here, just what if

Now no listen just what if West Black

Wait wait come back I just want you to imagine what if

West Black SSj4
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>>155853265
>>155851770
>>155850663

Falcucks and subtards have been btfo by this one opening of the Dragon Ball series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV1vMR2wMNk
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>>155860624
Anybody with common sense should recognize his pattern
All this because Toriyama triggered him by making a skinny cat stronger than his favourite character.
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>>155860835
Stop replying to the retarded subfag.

Just ignore him.
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>>155860843
....Anon, you need to write the series.
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>>155860835
>>155860894
samefag
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>>155860843
BIG

MEATY

PECS
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>>155860928
>>155860885
>>155860624
Samefag
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>>155860928
If you call samefag then you're no better than the dubfag. Just ignore him
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B O O G I E
A
C
K
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>>155860881
>Not posting What is my Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozKql_qd8E4
Also some other good Euro openings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rRYqtehPk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qqtZeHOPuE
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>>155860885
Too bad there's always a dumbass to fall for his shit.
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>>155860607
>implying Freeza isn't Furiza
>implying Cell isn't Seru
>implying Vegeta isn't Bejita
>implying Goku and Gohan aren't Son Goku and Son Gohan
>implying Bulma isn't Buruma
>implying Yamcha isn't Yamucha
>implying Son Goku's true name isn't Kakarotto
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>>155860984
We should just start calling all the characters by their romanized Japanese names.
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>>155860938
>the soft soft tail
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>>155857012
Recoome vs Vegeta was the best animation in the whole series. The only thing that comes close is SS2 Goku vs SS2 Vegeta
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>>155860984
Frieza
Cell
Vegeta
Goku
Gohan
Bulma
Yamcha
Kakarot

Those are their canon, official names in the show and video games.
>>
I took a break from these threads for about a month. This GT vs Super and anime vs manga shit is STILL going on? This is shit.
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>>155850663
Nice.

It's missing "Vegeta Powers Up" though, which is my personal favorite.
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>>155860984
That is Yamucha-sama to you
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>>155861188
t. Puar
>>
test
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>>155850663
Goku's SSJ theme has a very majestic feel to it.

Sounds like a real revival of an ancient legend, perfectly captured.
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>>155861220
Did it work?
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>>155861209
>not Puaru
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>>155860881
>>155860978
you fags are forgetting the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJeS-RT0Ji8
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>>155858357
GT comes from the timeline split caused by Universe 12
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ_P1DhGrw

Portugal dub is so weird.
>>
Finally.

See? When you stop responding to the shitposting subfag, he goes away.a
That's how you deal with trolls. Don't give them replies.

Now we can resume the thread normally.
>>
>>155861307
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>>155861466
Apparently they intentionally made this shit terrible. I was reading a comment about it and someone from Portugal said that. I wouldn't be surprised if they are right because it's too funny to be real
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>>155861486
Why would you mention him, anon?
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>>155861466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4
All the fighting sounds like someone being raped.
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>>155861511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaEQXJ3Q5g

This is so bad it's hilarious.
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>>155856653
It just sounds so dumb taken the context. At least Viz kinda fixed it.
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>>155861220
Ban evading?
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>>155858357

They can pull a timeline out of their ass and say that GT takes place in that.
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>>155850659
They look like they were designed by some literally who in order to be temporary villains on a children's show
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcTEuhgS-RQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KhdPKkKZn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT3KORB7dIk
We posting bad dubs?
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>>155861511
They only had translations of the French dub script which was already terrible. It was doomed anyways so they just made it full on parody dub. There used to be english subbed clips of it, and it was weird. Filled with dumb portuguese pop culture references, 4th wall jokes, and obnoxious filters for all the villains.
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Try not to laugh challenge

>EASY MODE
LEVEL 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdWxaWT3hw

LEVEL 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY0hj4XZdb0

>MEDIUM MODE
LEVEL 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SyWm37vXzs

LEVEL 4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqA8Wz4LWE

>HARD MODE
LEVEL 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVov2BNIcw

LEVEL 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

>JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP MODE
LEVEL 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUZKfFJq3Q

LEVEL 8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Gq2NxTvak

>GOD MODE. FINAL BOSS
LEVEL 9:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw

LEVEL 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tum1P5jm_so
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>>155861594
How the fuck did niggastream translate the nip word for "psychological" as "emotional"?
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>>155861669
Well, Super is a children's show afterall, isn't it?
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>>155861713
sup Immavegeta love the vids bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5d3DelthTg
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>>155861773
that's the joke
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>>155856738

No they don... fuck.
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>>155861713
>Dodoria singing opera while killing namekians.

Everytime.
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>>155861713
>I want the magic stick!
>Magic cloud!
>every power up and move is a Kamehameha
>Vegeta saying Kamehameha
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>>155861713
We Big Green posting now? Pure Kino honestly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2-xuUffi4
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>>155861926
>singing into their screams

Top kek
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>>155859870
>"oh uh....Potara was never permanent, only for kais LOL!!"
I actually don't take as much issue with that retcon as most people do, but I do have to agree with those that were saying it wasn't really necessary when the "permanent" problem could have just as easily been fixed with any set of dragon balls that are floating around, just like Kibitoshin did.
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>>155861713
>I am da Saiya people
>Yes, everyone in my race can turn into a giant gorilla

What the fuck Turtles
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>>155850817
Super is undoubtedly better than GT even with all its flaws.
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>>155861713
>open link 9
>first 5 seconds and i already lost my sides

GOOOOOOOOOOHHKUUUUUUUU

LISSEN.. A TRABLESUM TIN HAT HAPPEN
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>>155861904
And Magus is literally Piccolo + Vegeta.
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I've come to a conclusion that Gohan is the lamest character in DBZ/Super. The guy is a literal plot device
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>>155862284
0/10 poor bait.
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>>155862361
Not bait, Gohan is just a boring character that wasn't even considered a top 5 favorite character in Japan by the end of Z. but muh potential
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>>155862382
How did you never realize this before anon?
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>>155862441
>>155862382
0/10

Too obvious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-OhIgJAGOE
Bad dubs? kek
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Super fucked up by not making an arc on trunks timeline during dabura/babidi
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>>155862767
I just wish we had the Dabura flashback from the manga animated.
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>>155862467
The Ocean dub sucked overall for changing a bunch of shit for no reason and introducing THE NEXT DIMENSION, but you have to admit they could scream with the best of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CH4k_URq4o
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>>155860379
>The problem with subfags is that they are blind to what DBZ actually is.
This comes from the people who got a dub that fucked up the script names of characters/ attacks and on top of that got into the series in Z when the rest of the world was finishing it.
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>>155862981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wZycwLhjrc

Maybe not all of the VAs, but Scott McNeil and Brian Drummond were the best screamers
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>>155858885

Can you blame us dubfags for preferring stuff that sounds like fake Terminiator music for the Android saga as opposed to BURBURP-BUR BURRRRR trumpet shit
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>>155854862
>>his father killed king kai and the monkey and cricket because he couldn't think of where to teleport to
He would have killed somebody no matter what. His teleportation needs to lock on to someone's ki. He couldn't just go to an empty planet and fuck off. It's actually pretty brilliant on his part if you think about it.
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>>155860589
Manga>Anime
Super>GT
Super Anime>Super Manga
Falcouner=Kikuchi
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>>155863796
Oh and Dub>Sub of course.
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Leaks when?
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>>155863868
not soon enough
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>>155860236
But those are english covers not the original english dub ost
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>>155855981
>"nigga namekians could multiply their power level too doesn't mean he changed into a new form"

nigga wat they fuse and literally NEVER change shape
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Why are americans the most delusional db fans?
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>>155864151
It's their nature, they are loud, ignorant and will support literally everything done in their country even if it's complete shit.

While the rest of the world on average watched DB and DBZ with a acceptable dub and the original music these people changed everything, from the script because they are too dumb to pronounce foreign words and changed the music because deep down they are jews.
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>>155862981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqA8Wz4LWE
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>>155864150
>being so stupid
Namekians can naturally change their power level while that's crazy for other races.

>and NEVER change shape
Thanks for supporting my point, then. SS2, SS3, SS Grade 2 and SS Grade 3 are more than regular power ups, there's no race capable to do exactly what saiyans do with these forms. Show me a character with no saiyan genes doing what a SS2, SS3, SS Grade 2 or SS Grade 3 saiyan does.
>>
DIGIMON

DIGITAL MONSTERS

DIGIMON ARE THE CHAMPIONS
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Why, Toei/Toyotaro/Toriyama?
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>>155864487
What is your question?
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>>155864558
He was asking Toei/Toyotaro/Toriyama
NOT you
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>>155864487
>>155864558
he probably meant why they changed the outfits
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>>155854342
There is nothing wrong with gokus japanese voice. American voice actor is good at serious moments but when it just goku being dumb and what personality he actually is Sean schemmel cant into it
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>>155864720
>American voice actor is good at serious moments
I'm wondering how he'll sound as Black in the series.
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>It looks like he's finally taken some damage! E-emotional damage!

What did Trunks mean by that?
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>>155864763
>what did mangastream mean by that?
ftfy
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>>155864763
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>>155864763
>>155864811
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>>155861713
The Dodoria one is the best
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>>155861486
What is wrong with liking original more? I think Masako nozawa does great job as goku because he is just dumb
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>>155863468
But trumpets are the best and i say that Kai soundtrack was better
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>>155861713
>that filter in Greek Vegeta's voice
What the fuck.

>Dodoria Sings Opera
Fuck me I lose every time.
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>>155864754
I sont know but Nozawa was great as black goku
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upy2SEnP9MU

>King Kai's explanation
Kek
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>>155864720
It's an old woman with a ridiculous accent, there is plenty wrong with it.
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>>155865192
>It's an old woman with a ridiculous accent
What do you mean? The hick talk? Goku's supposed to talk like that though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksg6KOlt0bk
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>>155865142

>Now I see! Black human beings dislike the sound of rubbing glass probably the soundwave of the whistle
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>>155865225
He doesn't talk like that in the manga.
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>>155865327
He did, especially as a child, but he somewhat grew out of it.
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>>155861904
The girl looks cute
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>>155865385
>girl
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>>155865327
Yeah he does.
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>>155865192
But that what makes goku. He should not sound like what he does in english dub
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>>155865459
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>>155865519
>He should not sound like what he does in english dub
Actually, Goku doesn't have the accent anymore when he's older in the manga. He talks exactly how you hear it in the english dub.
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>>155865590
Better example.
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I guess the samefagging dubfag is a new epic meme of the threads or something
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>>155865379
Yeah Goku's character has evolved slightly since chapter fucking 1.
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>>155865721
not his dialect.
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>>155865379
Oh really because this is from the last chapter
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>>155865789
I'm disappointed he didn't make toilet jokes.
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>>155865811
I forgot what he said in the sub/dub but it was similar to this.
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>>155864426
>Show me a character with no saiyan genes doing what a SS2, SS3, SS Grade 2 or SS Grade 3 saiyan does.
i can't speak for the other forms but Master Roshi also basically does the grade shit
>>
General Blue was one of the best cards in the card game.
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>>155865864
>no changes in hair
>not even visible aura

So not the same. Sorry if you thought it's exactly the same just because they are stronger after become more muscular.
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>>155865847
POO
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>>155866002
>aura this aura that

what the hell was the change in aura for saiyan grades? I understand if there's a color/DRASTIC change like Super Saiyan God or SSJ4 but come on man i don't remember saiyan grades having a different aura
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>>155865590
But Nozawa still fits as goku mostly because goku is still that dumb kid even though he is an adult now
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>>155854470
>>155856605
all I thought about when I saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMWWBigvbkY
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>>155866002
I'll say this, I REALLY dislike the saiyan grades as a transformation, because they are COMPLETELY made irrelevant by, get this, the mind blowing concept of just STAYING NORMAL SSJ INSTEAD.

It's not a different form from SSJ, it's literally Super Saiyan with energy put in your muscles and shit. And it makes you slower as a result. Cell could do the EXACT SAME FUCKING THING, and it didn't change his form.
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>>155866150
>goku is still that dumb kid
Goku has more of a naive innocence personality in the manga than he is stupid.
>>
>shinjin are neither male nor female
>north kai makes various references to peeing
What the hell do fruit people even have down there then
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>>155866274
It's always been a joke in Dragon Ball that "Gods" do nothing.
>Kami
>King Kai
>the other Kais
>Shin
>Gods of Destruction
>Daishinkan
>Zeno
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Reminder.
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>>155866232
And that is why Nozawa is great as goku. She does that naive innocence goku so well. Sean just cant do it
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>>155866359
>T. weeb
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>>155866414
>capitalizing "t"
what did he mean by this?
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>>155866359
I love Nozawa.

As both Goku and Black.
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>>155866143
>i don't remember saiyan grades having a different aura
That's probably anime's fault. Auras are really defined in the manga.

white flame which becomes yellow when powers up - regular aura (humans, saiyans, SS... basically a default aura)
spiky (almost) permanent aura - Grade 2
spiky (almost) permanent aura with sparks - SS2
spiky (almost) permanent aura which becomes a huge spark itself - Grade 3
spiky (almost) permanent rounded aura with sparks - SS3

Turtle Hermit never even had an aura and his hair didn't change, so it's not the same as Grade 2 or 3 (same about Freeza bulky state, his aura isn't spikier)

>>155866202
>It's not a different form from SSJ
And SS2 and SS3 aren't different forms from SS either, just a powered up state (as Tori said) so your point?

>it's literally Super Saiyan with energy put in your muscles and shit. And it makes you slower as a result.
If you wants to ignore how other stuff (hair and aura) changes too, then you can say "SS2 and SS3 are literally SS with a lot of effort and shit, and it makes you consume your energy faster as a result".
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>>155866478
I wish Toriyama did more slice of life
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>>155866478
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>>155866487
>And SS2 and SS3 aren't different forms from SS either, just a powered up state (as Tori said) so your point?
They're treated as actual transformations though, for fucks sake Super Saiyan 3 gets rid of the eyebrows and makes their hair grow past their back. The implication Cell was trying to make was that ANY OLD NIGGA THAT TRIED could pump energy into their muscles and shit.

The whole point about Super Saiyan 2 (at first) was that it wasn't some shit you could just pull with training and thinking about how you could pump energy into your muscles, shit was TRIGGERED by rage and shit, like the original SSJ was.

You literally can't see more proof that they aren't actually different from SSJ, than the fact they aren't the ones called Super Saiyan "2" and Super Saiyan "3"
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>>155866487
And again, auras don't mean THAT much, I mean shit Super Saiyan Rage was a thing, and that's literally just angry Super Saiyan 2. Not even different hair
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>>155866487
Also hell man, freaking merged ZAMASU did the same fucking thing.

Are we gonna start talking about "Super Saiyan Rose Grade 3" too?
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>>155865607
>bein
>cuz
goku is a special tardle boy and chi chi had to milker her children from him
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>>155866414
I wish but i am not american so i never watched your dub as kid so i have no nostalgia to it
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>>155866620
>They're treated as actual transformations though
And Grades as well. SS Grade 2 was "the Super Saiyan beyond a regular SS" before they discovered another SS beyond a regular SS which works better.

>for fucks sake Super Saiyan 3 gets rid of the eyebrows and makes their hair grow past their back
And Grade 3 makes the user a fucking doped monster with a larger and spikier hair, so? If you wants to trivialize the changes then not even SS2 is a new form.

>any old nigga that tried could
I'm still waiting for an example of a dude doing it, not only change musculature but hair and aura shape too. Only Trunks, Vegeta, Goku and Cell (people with saiyan blood) did it.

>The whole point about Super Saiyan 2 (at first) was that it wasn't some shit you could just pull with training
And now it's some shit you could just pull with training. Why you use "retconned" shit as argument?

>>155866665
>And again, auras don't mean THAT much
Auras are changes. You're pretending that the changes which make the form different from a regular power up don't exist to claim that isn't different from a regular power up.

>Super Saiyan Rage was a thing, and that's literally just angry Super Saiyan 2. Not even different hair
How your wrong headcanon is related to our discussion?

>>155866733
>freaking merged ZAMASU did the same fucking thing.
Nah, he didn't.

>become a giant =/= increase your musculature, change your hair style, hair longitude and gain a new aura and more power
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>>155866972
>Cell (people with saiyan blood) did it.
The fact Cell can do it means at the very least it's not something that requires going fucking Super Saiyan though. Maybe going Super Saiyan is the only way niggas like vegeta and trunks can survive bulking their muscles up like that or some shit, but it's basically just a technique once Cell does that shit.

>How your wrong headcanon is related to our discussion?
>Nah, he didn't.

>>become a giant =/= increase your musculature, change your hair style, hair longitude and gain a new aura and more power

all this shit is how I know you're autistic, I literally gave another example of a guy who's SSGSS roiding up his muscles and shit to gain power AT THE COST OF SPEED and you say it's not the same thing. Eat a dick nigga it's 4 am and if you still don't see what I mean I'm fucking done.
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>>155865411

oh god no
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>>155867231
>The fact Cell can do it means at the very least it's not something that requires going fucking Super Saiyan though.
Why? Cell had several saiyan characteristic, a lot of people even defend he actually use unnoticeable SS forms.
Also still not an argument, then you can say they could use "saiyan grade 2", then "Super Saiyan grade 2", etc, but it still a different forms.

>it's just a technique
SS is a technique too, pal, a transformation technique.

>all this shit is how I know you're autistic
Wow, some guy called me "autistic", how I'll deal with this?

>Zamasu becomes bulkier and slower with his giantification, and Vegeta/Trunks/Goku becomes bulkier and slower with their Grade 2, THEREFORE, it's the same exact thing, even if they still pass through several different changes
Are you even trying?

>if you still don't see what I mean I'm fucking done.
I clearly see you actually think that you can take common characteristics and ignore the different ones to claim two things are the same.
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>>155866334
Wait, how does the gods being shit at their jobs answer that
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>>155867955
What is she attempting to do in that picture
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>>155867979
put him back in
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>>155867979
Probably reacting the same as Chichi did here.
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>>155867955
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>>155868097
>bardock's skin complexion
>facial structure
So WHAT did Goku inherit from Gine again?
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>>155868120
His good heart.
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>>155868149
But that's only because he hit his head.
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>>155850817
What is he doing in that pose? Rolling up his sleeves? He has no sleeves though. What the fuck is he doing?
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>>155868097
>Bardock is tanned
>Gine isn't
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>>155868271
Tshirts have sleeves, hes making sure his shirt is the proper tightness so his armpit sweat doesnt get on his arms. Do you think goku uses deoderant? Do you think goku wants to smell his pits while hes trying to use a X10 kaio ken?
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>>155868379
I guess only the men are tanned
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>>155868410
Why? That's fucking stupid
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>>155868533
Dunno that's my guess. We've never seen Toriyama draw full-blooded Saiyan women and probably never will.
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>>155868557
Scratch that, he's drawn them, but not in color.
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>>155868379
>>155868410
Bardock going to planets with various suns like Namek probably
Or Warriors are tanned because I don't know evolution or some shit
>>
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>>155853379
Aside of all the shitposting, the image is really heartwarming.
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>>155868097
Why are they flushing Goku down the toilet?
>>
>>155869083
They saw his power level and thought he was shit.
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>>155869083
>>155869106
Top kek
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>>155868379
Saiyans are pretty much Asian humans with tails. In real life, your average woman is lighter skinned than your average male. So it makes sense for Gine, who doesn't fight nearly as often, to have paler skin than Bardock.
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>>155868410
Is Cabba tanned?
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>>155869178
I said only the men are tanned, anon.
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>>155868533
It's not uncommon. Mesopotamian and Mediterranean cultures usually kept the women inside while the men tanned to the point of being brown, or if they were brown, dark red brown. I'd imagine a Saiyan woman who loves fighting to be closer to Bardock, but it's not like all Saiyans are the exact same skin color. Hell, Vegeta is slightly lighter than Goku (in the manga, in the anime it's the reverse).
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9dnK6oWPwso
Best boy is almost here
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>>155866274
They have cloacas, like chicken.
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>>155869225
>Vegeta is slightly lighter than Goku
Pic related

Also I guess you're just overthinking. Saiyans are tanned, that's all, Toriyama doesn't mind on make them more or less tanned according to how much they are in the battlefield.
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>>155850659
17 is going to RANGE THE SHIT OUT OF SOME POACHERS BABY!
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>>155869828
What's there to be mad about? Toriyama dragon ball material for the first time in years.
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>>155850663
Hnnggggggggg, Jobberhan gets the best fucking osts.... that mystic one is sugoi.
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>>155869828
Nah, I kinda like Minus.
>>
>>155860528
Idk about that man. You ever seen the falconer productions building, it was basically that guy and a fucking synthesizer.
>>
You guys think Toriyama will ever draw a one-shot or single chapter for Dragon Ball again? Or was Minus his final one?
>>
FINALLY
ALL FUCKING NAMES
http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/chapter4/
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>>155870218
>Buu is fat
So Fit Buu confirmed for one episode gag?
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>>155870211
Maybe, who knows. Though he has people to draw DB for him now.
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>>155870218
What is this abomination
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>>155870321
That looks disgusting.
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>>155862464
Why doesn'tt gokou go Super Sayin 4 in DBZ Super?
I was just looking for an excuse to post this image
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>>155856507
>Main characters can't be Mary sues
>What is Geralt and Kirito
>>
>>155870218
Geen's face looks fucking retarded
>>
AHAJAJAJAHAHA KEKATARO
>>
>>155870284
it was obvious wasnt it?
>pressure is on, reality is going to end
>trains for 24 hours straight and gets swole as fuck
>beats goku the strongest fighter in the universe
>must be doing good time for a break
>says hes going to take a nap
>buu is a fat fuck who normally eats constantly and is going to be hungry as fuck when he wakes up
That fat kai really fucked buu up
>>
Dragonball > Z >>> Super > GT

and if the current tournament arc doesn't turn out to be good then Super = GT
>>
>>155870521
>tfw kakaroto kukarotos your waifu and she forms babby
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I imagine him sounding like Joe from Family Guy.
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>>155870218
Quitela-Beerus rivality fucking confirmed
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>>155867955
>That tail hole
Didn't know I wanted this.
>>
>>155870510
We do not talk about Sword Art Online. There is a point at which the main character mary sues so fucking hard he manages to break the rule of main character not being a mary sue to the point he just becomes all the mary sues combined into one.
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Hmmm...
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>>155871147
Mary Sues are all MCs or sometimes the MC love interest or on his team.
Saying Mary sues can't be MC is retarded when most Mary sues are MC
>>
>>155871285
>Cukatail
>>
>>155871285
>Sour
What the fuck is the pun?
>>
>u5 angel name is literally Cucktail
>>
>>155871412
Would be if it wasn't pronounced kukateru
>>
>>155870218
Angel names
U1: アワモ - Awamo
U2: サワア - Sawaa
U3: カンパーリ - Kanpaari (Kanpar(r)y?)
U4: コニッコ - Konikku (Konic)
U5: クカテル - Kukateru (Kuktail? Cooktail?)
U8: コルン - Korun
U9: モヒイト - Mohiito
U10: クス - Kusu
U12: アティース - Atiisu (Artis? Artees?)
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>>155871317
Mojito isnt a pun either, im guessing they are going to purely be background characters. Just like garlic jr is the filler villain.
>>
>>155871476
>>155871285
oh fuck im a slowpoke someone shoot me
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>>155871520
you tried
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New PV hyping up 17 from Toei.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dnK6oWPwso
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[超朗報]女ブロリーの名前が「カリフ」と判明!!更に、キャベの嫁だとのこと!!!
#ドラゴンボール
#ドラゴンボール超
#ブロリー
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>>155871500
>Mojito isn't a pun.

wat
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Mortal level rankings.
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>>155871781
>カリフ
Karifu
that's her name, based on Cauliflower
>>
>>155871385
It's lemon, lime, and a syrup that gets mixed into cocktails.
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>>155871883
Do you mean "Caulif".
>>
>>155871781
>>155871883
Sauce?
>>
>>155871943
Probably like that, but I'm holding off until there's an official spelling.
>>
>>155871831
just calling them the thing isnt a pun. Kakarot is a pun but if he was called kallot it wouldnt be
>>
>>155872021
His name is "Mohiito", not "Mojito".
>>
CuCKTAIL

C-U-C-K-T-A-I-L

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!
>>
>>155872082
?
>>155871285
>>
>>155871959
I think he got it from this
https://twitter.com/indigo_0418/status/847842251979894784/photo/1
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>>155872137
I'm who posted >>155871285 and the name still "mohiito". I don't even know why Herms used "mojito" this time when he got right with "mohiito" before.
>>
>>155856385
Maybe he'll start as SSG but then he'll get cocky and will turn into a SSB and do all kind of weird shit in order to destroy the inmortal zamasu, that will be the cause of his downfall.
>>
>>155850478
>>155850491
>>155850501

DB as a franchise is more shit than not, with each new addition adding more to the shit side of that ratio.
>>
>>155871781
Also
>更に、キャベの嫁だとのこと!!!
She's Cabba's wife.
>>
>>155872247
/ourboy/ making more full blooded saiyan, based as usual
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>>155872180
>>155872180
>>155872180
>>155872180
new thread
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>>155862079
I literally thought they made the dragon ball defuse kibitokai because they wanted vegito back

like there is no reason the time limit retcon needed to happen
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>>155864811
>>155864861
>>
>>155872859
Mai a cute
Shin a cute
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>>155873414
can't deny that
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>>155873605
Torankusu is even cuter
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>>155873828
still posting here little Mai?
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>>155874047
Sure anon
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>>155874204
i guess that's okay
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>>155874367
It's good to see you too anon
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>>155875642
of course
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