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Ch. 862 Intellectual Type

Jinbe tries to wake Luffy up, but he isn't showing any sings of waking.
Everyone cheers as A gigantic wedding cake is brought out.
As Big Mom's children surround the Vinsmokes' seats, Reiju prepares herself to die.
As Luffy finally wakes and heads towards the venue, the ceremony has begun.
Katakuri is bewildered as he sees the future where Pudding breaks down crying.

When Pudding shows Sanji her third eye, Sanji tells her in an air of wonder, "It's a beautiful eye"
Pudding breaks down crying and recalls her childhood where her third eye was a source of bullying, and even Big Mom was creeped out, so she was told to hide it with her bangs. And it was due to these incidents that her personality began to become warped.

If Big Mom decides that Pudding is of no use, then she will signal Father to shoot Sanji.
Katakuri sees the future where Sanji dodges Father's shot, so he shoots at Sanji but Sanji avoids this shot by the skin of his teeth.

At the signal of Katakuri's shot, Luffy begins his entrance into the ceremony, and countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake.

End
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Pudding is CUTE and NAKAMA
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SHs are going to take Pudding as a prisoner. Mark my words.
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>>155786007

Pudding is literally DAT EVERYTHING
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SaPu confirmed. SaNafaggots on suicide watch.
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OFFICIALLY MARRIED

Congratulate the newlyweds.
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>>155786102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajp0Uaw4rqo
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can't wait to see how big mom will chimp out. but how about the tamatebako though
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>>155785979
>inb4 speedreaders thinking this comes out of nowhere
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Will their marriage be consummated?
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>>155786527
Only if they defeat Big Mom this arc which I doubt.
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>>155786527
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Imagine being a SaNafag
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>>155786552
Big Mom is definitely falling this arc considering the lenghts they went to to make it into a straight assasination attempt.
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>>155786464
There's definitely a strong foundation (for this manga's standards for tragic heroines) for redemption here, yeah.
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>>155785979
>Katakuri sees the future where Sanji dodges Father's shot, so he shoots at Sanji but Sanji avoids this shot by the skin of his teeth.

How come Katakuri didn't see Sanji avoiding his shot as well?
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>>155786694

Because Sanji's CoO becomes even better
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>>155786694
Because that future hasn't "happened" yet.
There's one universal future timeline, which he can see into. But whenever he tries to change it, another timeline branches out, which he cannot predict. At least that's how I suppose it works.
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>>155786765
Yeah, I think that's how it works too

Katakuri had to have some limits, otherwise this whole plan would be already over.
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Drinking game for tomorrow

Take a shot every time someone says "BTFO"
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>>155786845
We'd be dead in 5 minutes
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>>155785979
ho do we know that its not another made up shit?
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>>155786947
Because we always have the real spoiler on wednesdays long before this time?
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>>155786947
Because it came from the same source all the spoilers have been coming from for years.
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Oda really cannot make a negative female character holy shit, they always have some shit to redeem themselves
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>>155786947
because we are not newfags just like you
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>Luffy begins his entrance into the ceremony, and countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake.

i guess that's funny, i think the execution will be what makes or breaks it though
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Pudding will redeem himself but as a result will never unlock her full potential and stay unable to read poneglyphs
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>>155787100
But he already made Nami.
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People still read this fucking trash?
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>>155787100
Alvida?
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>>155787146
Not that the Straw Hats need her to read them anyway. They have Robin, and Luffy is all but confirmed to have the same ability as Roger which allowed him to understand the poneglyphs without actually being able to read them.
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>>155787100
Kalifa.
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>>155787185
She might unlock it later on so that Momonosuke can have a ponegylphs teacher or something
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>>155786947
Also Sugar, just recently.
Let's be honest, Pudding is still evil, her character's just being given some extra dimension with her tearing up in self-pity. Which is good, because Kalifa and Sugar were boring af
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>>155787205
There was CP9 cover arc where they sorta redeemed themselves, wasn't there?
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>>155787205
works for government, not really evil
>>155787184
not a big distusting pig anymore and haven't been bad since
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>>155787225
She wouldn't be able to read them either, would she? With Ohara and Momonopiske's parents gone, only Robin can actually read/write the ancient language now.
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>>155787100
Odas desire to portray Nobles as terrible people is stronger than his desire to portray pretty women as likable and 'good'
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>>155787241
Considering it seems at least some of them are now part of CP0 it probably means it wasn't true redemption
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>>155787100
Monet
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>>155785979
sana shippers btfo
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>>155787293
>sacrifices herself for doffy
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A GOOD GIRL
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>>155787100

What about Big Mom?
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>>155787100
Most male characters get some sort of redemption too
Right and Wrong being subjective has been a theme in One Piece more than once
The world isn't black and white
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>>155787403
This. Even Caribou got redeemed.
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>>155787100
oda redeems most male characters as well. theres just fewer female villains, but here are some from the top of my head

monet
sugar
the nobles
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>>155787394
already have the Mother Carmel backstory ready for her
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>>155787394
I bet BM will also have some sort of sob story featuring Mother Whatsherface.
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>>155787365
Sacrificing yourself for someone even worse than you is hardly a redeeming factor
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>>155787236
Wait, why are you mentioning Kalifa. What does she, Sugar, and Pudding have in common aside from being females part o the villain crew?

And what about Sugar?
>Also Sugar, just recently.
What happened to her recently?
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>>155787425
Caribou is best girl.
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Will pudding die?
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>>155787483
Caribou is nakama
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>>155787403
The only reason why it's less noticeable is because male villains usually don't have overly dedicated fans (at least not here on /a/) trying to prove the slightest sign of humane behavior makes them next nakama candidate.
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>>155787535
If you take off her wedding veil.
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>>155787100
Smoothie
Amande


And just for argument's sake. Males that get redeemed in some form.
>franky
>mr. 2
>mr. 3
>senor pink (his past)
>bellamy
>pekoms
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>>155787270
Her third eye has the potential to do that.
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>>155786694
sanji haki>
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Damn, Puddingfags will come out of the woodwork in droves when the gets scanlated.
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>>155787711
the third eye can reveal the messages like roger's ability but it's not the same as knowing the language
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>>155787711
I thought the third eye supposed to act similar to being able to hear the voice of all things. I.e. not simply let you read anything, but rather understand the meaning of the message itself.
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>>155787682

Doflamingo, Wapol...Everyone. It's just how it is. Everyone has his past and his reasons. It's true irl too. But having suffered and showing some kind of kidness sometimes doesn't meam you aren't an evil piece of shit.
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Will Pudding finally use the kikoho and die for Sanji? That will shut the Pudding haters
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>>155787812
Doflamingo's past didn't make him any more redeemable, though, it did explain why he turned out the way he is but we simultaneously learned his brother turned out just fine.
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>>155787812
Doffy's past did absolutely nothing to redeem him, quite the contrary, it showed why he is a monster.
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>>155787280
The worst offender was Charloss, ugly people are rotten to the core.
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>>155787665
She's a big girl.
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>>155787682
Buggy and Croc to a degree, too
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Pudding is the same shit as Robin.
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>>155787941
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>>155787858

I don't understand what you mean then. Bellamy and Senor Pink haven't been redeemed. Senor is still a cold blooded monster. Doflamingo loves his friends and was really compassionate towards Baby 5, Buffalo, Diamante, Trebol even when they fucked up. Stil a monster.
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>>155788071
No, when it was butto base time Doffy became a black & white character. Truly an irremedable monster that cares for nothing and no one but himself. Law stated that the family thing is a farce, no worries kids! You don't have to ponder anything! He was a mean guy and deserved everything.
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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?
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Pudding redemption

Sanji confirmed for never doubting a woman's tears still unbroken
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did the sanafag kill himself yet?
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>>155788172

It's not true. He cared for his friends/crewmates. Still irredeemable piece of shit. Same goes for Senor Pink.
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>>155788172
You can care about others and still be irredemable
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>>155788177
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>>155788316
>>155788271
Trebol: we are a family! Officers and Doffy are on equal ground!
Law: only you think that! Doffy cares for no one but himself!

Law can't be lying. Oda has this thing of "bad guy about to get punched really hard? Gotta make him the biggest turd in the toilet so we can party with no guilt.".
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>>155788271
Actually Senor is nowhere near as evil as doffy, so he doesnt need to be redeemed. His entire fight with Franky showed that he was a thug choosing the wrong side and not a villian.
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>>155786694
Why Katakuri doesn't see himself shooting at Sanji to begin with?

Because him being aware of the future already changes it
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>>155788413
You mean dogtooth.
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>>155787100
There is Big Mom herself.
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>>155788071
>>155788172
>>155788271
>>155788368
As I saw it, he was set up as the "charismatic villain"-type. Not a good person by any means, but that wasn't what his most loyal followers wanted from him. They wanted him to be the evillest son of a bitch he could be and they wanted him to lead them.

There's certainly a degree of affection and attachment for his "family", but everything ultimately revolves around him. Hence the flashback to his past. At heart, he's still just like all the other World Nobles, it's just that he's gotten a large attachment to the concept of "family". Even when he brought back his father's head to the other WN, they still wouldn't take him back. So his concept of family has been narrowed down to only include those who are loyal to him. Extremely self-centered, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have ANY feelings. Just that his feelings are wholly dependent upon how much the others are willing to give up for him. A selfish kind of camaraderie.
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>>155788379

Yeah, ok. Murdering people left and right to steal their shit doesn't make you a villain. Even parenthood, love or the death of his wife bc of his behavior din't make him change his path.
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>>155787100
This. Oda's a beta.
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Seeing how Jinbe joined and Carrot has thousand nakamaflags, I assume Carrot will join instead of Pudding while Pudding takes over WCI and be something like Sanji's distant lover until he returns to her. That would probably lead to a lot of jokes of Sanji thinking that some woman is really hot and then hating himself because he has pudding already.

It would be too much if three people joined the crew in one arc.
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>>155788434
It was a nice view but I doubt Oda thinks that far. I meam, he thinks that 2 wrongs make a right.
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>>155785979
Evil cute girl has a sad side

No girls are fully evil in the pirate world.

It is always the fault of someone else.

Dindu nuffin

Afh.
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>>155787777
>>155787782
Being a living dictionary is very useful to learn a language
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>>155788458
>Yeah, ok. Murdering people left and right to steal their shit doesn't make you a villain.
When did Senor kill anyone in Dressrosa? Even when he thought he defeated Franky, he didn't actually make sure to kill him. Dragon probably killed some dudes too, so what?
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>>155787236
>sugar: abandoned and jus repaying my saviour
>rest: ugly who gives a shit about fuggos

Next?
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>>155788522
Unless you're a World Noble. Or married to a villain like a certain rich toy mogul.
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Being able to see into the future is just the lamest thing possible and it always ends the same way where he just isnt able to predict when someone goes full retard.
Oda pls.
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>>155788591
Good thing Katanacurry is a nobody
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>>155788566
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did w get any backstory on Sugar? I didn't even know that happened. I even just looked up her wiki page right now and found out that she was Monet's sister. Where did all this information come from? The SBS?
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>>155788609
JOBBER
O
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B
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>>155788536

Read the arc again maybe. He's murdering people to steal from them with his gang. His wife and love of his live die because she hates that. Even the remorses don't make him stop with his bullshit.
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>>155788625
Yes. They were in a very miserable state and Doffy took them in. So they are fiercely loyal.
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>>155788591
>Being able to see into the future is just the lamest thing possible and it always ends the same way where he just isnt able to predict when someone goes full retard.
I mean. This is essentially the same thing Enel could do. He could pseudo-read minds and predict actions. This isn't really so much different, isn't it? It's just that being able to predict their actions also requires him to be able to predict their emotions as well.
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>>155788591
he doesn't actually see into the future

it's just haki he uses to predict what people are going to do
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Who's "Father"?
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>>155788625
I can't remember where I read it but it's cannon, monet and sugar were saved by Diddy and they're repaying him.
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Pudding could join as another prisoner crewmate like ceaser , since i doubt the strawhats will trust her with her powers. This could be odas way of allowing evil people on the crew without them being officially nakaba
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>and Carrot has thousand nakamaflags
There are only 1.5 furfags constantly forcing carrotfornakama in OP threads.
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>>155788668
The wedding priest
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>>155787428
>>155787435

Having a sob story doesn't redeem you.

Doflamingo had one fucked up backstory but he's still a monstrous asshole. Just one of the stories that "Monster's aren't born they're made".
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>>155787403
>>155787425

Yep, he just buried alive a large amount of people before it.

People can be redeemed, sure.

But there is a limited amount of shit that honest people should endure, after that the door should close.

Can't demand other people to sacrifice themselves again and again for the possibility of redemption of an evil persion.
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>>155788694

She's a legit candidate. It has nothing to do with waifufagottery.
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>>155788723
Hancock?
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>>155788723
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>>155788584
I guess you are only irredemable if you are rich.

Oda is a commie.
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>>155788643
>Read the arc again maybe.
When did Senor kill anyone in Dressrosa? His wife hates him being a pirate not being a murderer. In fact we only see him steal shit ore beat up fodder/point his gun at people to make 'em fuck off. He never actually kills anyone. This being One Piece should give you a clue.
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>>155788694
You niggas thought Pudding wouldn't become Sanji's waifu and now you deny another obvious fact. Pathetic.
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>>155788766
I mean. Vivi is fine and she's rich. You're a good noble if you're committed to following noblesse oblige, I guess.
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>>155788782

> His wife hates him being a pirates not a murderer.

Anon, please.

It's in One Piece and? This universe is beyond fucked up.
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>>155788852
>Anon, please.
Maybe reread the chapter.

>It's in One Piece and? This universe is beyond fucked up.
Yet most named pirates in Op never killed anyone onscreen. And 90% of those who haven't were never implied to have.
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>>155788817
>You niggas thought Pudding wouldn't become Sanji's waifu
But I'm a Puddingfag, I never doubted it well maybe a little. The marriage actually happening would simply be just so much more fun than another "Straw Hats resolve yet another conflict through violence" episode.
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>>155788678
So carrot and jimbea join as official Straw hats And we still get to keep creaser . Then that's the best option
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>>155788940
Gastino is now a member of Gang's crew. He wont return to the strawhats ever again. I assume he will flee from Bege at the end of the arc and end up alone for a future coverpage story.
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Did my nigga Katakuri just get BTFO'd by Sanji? This wasn't supposed to happen!
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>>155788975
It's a metaphora for Sanji being ahead of Zoro finally after getting a gf.
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>>155788975
>i'm in charge here!
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>>155788975
Anyone else thinks Dogtooth looks a bit too... overdesigned? I liked OP because how some lame looking characters turned out to be big players later on, like Marco. But this guy just looks like some JRPG protagonist.
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Since both pudding and sanji already said '' I do '' then that means there now both offically husband and wife
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>pudding joins
>awakens eye power
>uses it to help robin decypher poneglyph she cant read
>cooks dessert while sanji cooks dinner
>gag where she turns yandere when sanji gets horny to other girls
¿SaNafags?
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>>155789029
>>155789029
He looks like he came from Berserk.
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>>155788890

If fodders dont count and it has to be on screen you are right. I guess Stussy is not in charge of a whore quarter too.
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>>155789074
>third eye has some sort of body freezing power
>everytime Sanji sees a cute chick there's a running gag of him being unable to move like he's frozen in time
Could become kino
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>>155789037
>yfw the father wasn't ordained since the wedding was a sham to begin with.
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>>155789104
>If fodders dont count and it has to be on screen you are right
He didn't even kill fodder though.

>I guess Stussy is not in charge of a whore quarter too.
The difference is that Stussy was announced as being just that while there is absolutely nothing that implies Senor killed anyone ever. But nice strawman.
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>>155789114
That is a possibility, but a legit mafia father who'd shoot people is a more entertaining idea.
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>>155785979

Please god let these spoilers be fake
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>>155788817
I need to see that in Japanese. It could just mean Strawhat group because if you were to name that crew anything, it would be that. What else would you call them?

The Minks? Pedro's crew?
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>>155788962
wrong my nigga

He will join Buggy sometime.
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>>155789207
no robin/franky doujins?

you have not been very thorough in your search my man
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>>155789211
It's obviously just foreshadowing that she will become a legit strawhat soon.
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Leave Katakuri to me!
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>>155789074
But Robin can read poneglyphs.
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>>155789258
>yfw Sanji kicks the edge out of his design and the whole overdesigning was just for that one joke
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>>155789204
RIP SaNafag.
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>>155789141

No. She has not. She's in charge of a "pleasure" quarter and is part of the underworld. Senor is a very bad dude.
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>>155789350
>She's in charge of a "pleasure" quarter and is part of the underworld.
Which means she obviously keeps the whores in check. Dude one translation had her as red light queen or something.

>Senor is a very bad dude.
You're objectively wrong, seeing how all of your arguments were headcanon.
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>>155789074
it is hysterically funny how all sana shippers are all silent now after how loud they've been for months
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>>155789402
>all sana shipper
It was like two guys spamming, so no wonder. Why do you think most chapter release threads had no sanaposts? Because the retards were asleep.
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>>155789402
hell since the start of the WCI arc they were betting all there chips saying ''sana canon soon'' and ''nami vs pudding'' ., now i just luna to be BTFO in a similar way and i'm good
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>>155789395

So now obvious implications are canon in Stussy's case but not in Senor's.
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>>155786013
Some masochistic complex where anon feeds on our hate for him. The more vocal we get about it, the more brazen anon becomes in his faggotry. He started this around September of last year and has made a point that he can be faggot and noone can stop him. It's a bit redundant though, if being a faggot on 4chan were a banable offense thrn this site wouldn't function.
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>>155789518
>So now obvious implications are canon in Stussy's case but not in Senor's.
Her title is no implication. Also there are 0 implications that Senor is a murderer. If there is, post it. You won't find anything.
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And you all thought I was crazy for never doubting pudding
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SANA FAGS BTFO
WHERE ARE YOU NOW YOU AUTISTIC SHITPOSTERS NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT SANA WILL NEVER BE CANON
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>pudding is good girl now
i'm disappointed oda
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>>155789547

Official translation is quarter pleasure. I can't read the flashback right now but i'm pretty sure he kills some fodders in the flashback. He's in the Doflamingo family and loyal. It's enough implication anyway. He has never shown any signs indicating that he's against Doffy's ways.
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God, pudding best girl
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>>155785979
>Pudding breaks down crying and recalls her childhood where her third eye was a source of bullying, and even Big Mom was creeped out, so she was told to hide it with her bangs. And it was due to these incidents that her personality began to become warped.
ODAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>155789626
I commend you for holding strong to your beliefs. However my ego has to let it be known that evilfags only ever predicted the initial twist. That there was a double twist does not discredit our initial prediction. Remember december
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>>155789626
you are crazy
it's just that oda was more of a hack than we thought
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>>155789734
>quarter pleasure.
What could pleasure in the underworld be, nigga? Drugs and Sexing.

>I can't read the flashback right now but i'm pretty sure he kills some fodders in the flashback.
I read it, he doesn't.

>He's in the Doflamingo family and loyal.
Yes and? He literally saved a cat and become Franky's friend too, so what?

>It's enough implication anyway. You still haven't named one (1)!

>He has never shown any signs indicating that he's against Doffy's ways.
What does that have to do with him killing someone or not?
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>>155789547
>>155789734
Man. Just relegate it to Senor being like that honorable yakuza archetype. There's no doubt he's a criminal and that he's done some bad shit, but he's also got his own moral code that he abides by. That's pretty much what he's supposed to be.
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>>155785979
>countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake
brulee's power right?
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>>155789626
No I thought you were a beta cuck. Just like Oda.
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>>155789880
And Sanji
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>>155789916
top kek
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>>155786694
Time doesn't stop when he sees the future he can only react to what he sees, so if he sees the plan failing he'll try to intervene and being confident in his own skills would assume sanji is as good as dead
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>>155789916
DELETE THIS
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>>155789880
Sorry /pol/ is that way
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>>155789667
Pudding is a bipolar psychopath, why best boy would want to marry that shit?
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>>155789841
Maybe, but how did they slip a mirror in the cake if that's the case?
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>>155790176
Okay, virgin!
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>>155789916
god I love these edits
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When's the chapter out?? Don't tell me I stayed up for no reason.
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>>155789254
No it's not obvious.
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>>155789916
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>>155789712
She's not suddenly good, she's still evil and a mentally disordered person. Just because she was a victim and bullied for her third eyes doesn't mean her beahvior and actions can be justified.
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>155789916
>Pudding MAYBE redeeming herself= SaNa btfo
Keep telling yourself that sweetie. Remember Viola.
Nothing can stop the SaNami train
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started to watch the alabasta arc again and damn, they just spoiled Robin joining the SH in the opening halfway through the arc.

lol

I wonder how mad the anime only japanese fans were at that time.
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>>155790328
Don't cry when she joins tho
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>>155790424
What's being shown in this pic?
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PUDDING HATERS AND UGLYFAGS
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>155790463
Foreshadowing that Monet died.
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>hey you got beautiful eyes
>wtf I like you now!
>people are okay with this meme tier writing
End yourselfs
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>>155790509
But Pudding is objectively beautiful
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>>155790509
Just like real life though.

>Look at my car right here
>wtf I think I love you
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>>155790392
Let the naive SaNa haters enjoy the apparent victory kek
Nami a best! A BEST!
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>>155790392
F-FAST APPROACHING
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>>155790509
Imagine being fat then a cute girl comes and tell you that you have a beautiful belly

How would you react?
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>>155790509
>you're not my son I hate you
>oh yeah well you're not my dad I hate you
This entire manga is meme tier writing
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>>155790570
It's not the same because she clearly hates Sanji.
She knows him and doesn't like him.
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>>155790570
That doesn't make sense, because Pudding's eye isn't something we or the characters in-universe see as ugly, but as different. You aren't different if you're fat, but if you had like, three arms that would be something else.
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Reminder.
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>>155790570
>Imagine being fat
No thanks
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>>155790570
Lol'd.

But pudding is not ugly at all. Not he same.
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>>155790623
>Jinbe, Carrot and Pudding join in the same arc
Too much desu
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>>155789916
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>>155789332
No i just don't want pages wasted on "Luffy isn't waking up"
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>>155790623
Nami is already part of the crew
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>>155790424
I don't see shit.
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>>155790645
don't forget ceaser
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>>155790601
What if you hated her?

>>155790607
>being fat is not being ugly
Sssssuuuuureeee
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>>155786765
because sanji is reacting to katakuri reacting to the future he predicted.
basically, imagine that we're fighting and I'm going to throw a punch at you. With your katakuri level CoO you can predict what arm and what type of punch I'll throw and the perfect timing, so you'll avoid it. But if instead I'm going to attack you based on the moves you'll make then you won't have the ability to predict my moves anymore because they depend on what you will do, which depends on what I will do an so on. There isn't a defined future anymore, just countless possibilities that all depend on what the one predicting it will do.
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>>155790715
>being fat is not being ugly
I never said that. Reread the post you quoted.
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>>155789916
Every single chapter, there's someone who got BTFO.
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Will Pudding is evil fags shut up now?
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>muh SaNa btfo hurr I win i win look at me guises
Except not because pudding redeeming herself doesn't interfere with SaNa. Pudding is just another of Sanji's -chan. He gets those every arc if you haven't noticed.
You can scream BTFO all you want but you are only fooling yourself.
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>>155790645
Jinbe dies. Carrot is working for Kaido.
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>>155790540
I watched a conference the other day, the nice car only works for one night stands.
For long term relationships, the best thing to do is to play with/interact/take care of a kid (you own or otherwise, doesn't matter) in front of the girl you want. It's science.
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>>155790509
>read shounen for 12 years old
>complain about writing for 12 years old
If I want good writing, I'd read seinen like K-On.
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Why did lots of luffys come out though
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>>155790782
Of course not, SaNa faggots lacks brain matter for that to happen
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>>155790788
Carrot is working for Big Mom though. Why do you think her name is a food?
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So uh, did Pudding and Sanji just get married?
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>>155790821
Brulee
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The ones who truly got BTFO this chapter are katakurifags.
Sanji dodged his bullet.
So either Zolofags got BTFO or Katakuri
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That's it, I'm on the Pudding train now.
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>>155790509
No this is perfectly fine. People have been memeing about Sanji needing to hit a woman to develop his character, and it shows how bullshit that is. This manga is all about sticking to your convictions and doing shit your own way. Sanji winning over the villain girl by being his usual gentlemanly self is a fine solution to the problem, and backups him not wanting to hit girls. I would have liked to see him go Okama mode, and lay her out but I'm fine with this.
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I legit hope Sanji will unJUST himself, beat the edgelord and claim his wife in the next few chapters.
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>tfw fell for the "Pudding is evil" meme
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>>155790844
Depends on how the ceremony works in the One Piece world.

Normally the kiss comes after the priest has already declared the couple husband and wife, so they'd technically be married.
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How mad will big mom be after she sees her cake destroyed?
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>>155790872
>Zolofags
How if Zolo has nothing to do with what happened?
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>>155790904
she is evil you retard, her past doesn't justify her actions now
it's just oda's trap to make you sympathize with a cute character
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>>155790938
Her reaction is probably going to be the best part of this chapter
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>>155790904
Being redeemed doesn't make her good.
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>>155790785
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>>155791038
Not an argument. Keep sperging though. You seem to care this much about it
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>>155790897
it would be nice if he showed some growth. luffy's dealing with yonkos and all sorts of strong people so he has to have dependable people on his crew. sanji almost died when he fought khalifa and he might get killed if holds back against people like smoothie making him a hindrance for the straw-hats
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>>155790785
>scream all you want you are only fooling yourselves
>canon soon!!
Hmmm
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>>155791038
pudding is so ugly goddamn it big mom is right
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>>155790509
yea wtf
i hope oda fixes this by killing pudding.
it's the only way
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>>155791081
Him hitting a woman is not character growth though. He got a ton of character growth this arc. Sanji is more fleshed out than ever now, but I guess because he didn't get a power up people can't see that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with him having a flaw. If Luffy thought it was actually a problem he would have been kicked out long ago.
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>>155790841
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MFW SasuSaku happened
MFW IchiHime happened
MFW SaNa happens

I look forward to drinking your salty tears for a 3rd time /a/
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Pudding fucked with her own memories. The first time with saw her she was with big mom and wasn't hiding her 3rd eye. Also Big Mom clearly loves her because of the 3rd eye.
Last chapter she said she had to erase a bunch if peoples memories to be good again.
Who were those people? Her family? No her family already knows her. She was refereeing to the guests. She doesn't want to do it so she is pudding an act right now. She also didn't want to get blood on her dress.
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>>155791038
>>155791171
You mean LuHan, faggot. That the obvious MC ship. SaNa is fanfic-tier.
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>>155791194
She was desperate to kill sanji already last chapter
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>>155791171
No one here will be salty. Stop trying to recreate your shit here it aint happening.
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Where is the SaNautist now?
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>>155791038
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>>155785979
>Sanji dodged Katakuri's attack
>Doflamingo BTFO Sanji in 2 panels

Does this mean that Commanderfags will finally stop living in denial and accept that Doffy is stronger than all of the commanders?

And no Cracker's Haki is not stronger than Doffy's that isn't the official translation.Cracker's Biscuit Knight got 2 shotted by G4 while a heavily injured Doffy tanked hundreds of attacks from it.
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>>155791194
Big Mom wants the third eye's power, doesn't mean she doesn't find it creepy looking.
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>>155791256
he's in denial , crying in a corner
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>>155791157
>He got a ton of character growth this arc
u wot m8
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>>155791314
>doffyfags
Crackers Haki is objectively stronger. Doffy couldn't even cut G4 Luffy.
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>>155791314
>all of the commanders?
Pretty sure Doflamingo would job big time if he fought all four at once.
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>>155790794

Dude, once there was this really hot chick who took interest in me. Now that you say it... I have been praised in front of her by an authority in education for my talent with kids and she saw kids loving me after a few minutes... Damn.
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>>155791425
Individually.
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>>155791171
Who the fuck cares, go to the Boruto thread
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>>155787147
underrated lmao
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>>155791314

Stfu. Cracker has proved he's stronger than Doffy. Did way better against regular Luffy AND g4. Nothing will ever change that.
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>>155791404
Crackers Haki is objectively weaker.Doffy tanked more hits than Cracker.Doffy also never used his strongest attacks against normal G4 luffy,he only used it against KKG.
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>>155791314
>while a heavily injured Doffy tanked hundreds of attacks from it.
last I checked Doffy was ready to drop after like 3 hits
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>>155790601
She doesn't "hate" sanji per se.
She grew up in a harsh family full of assholes murderers and sociopaths, ready to bully and abuse their siblings and children for the tiniest thing.
She was judging Sanji the same, just a perverted asshole who takes what he wants and gives no shit for others, because that's all she knows, and she was acting to him the same way.
Lola being the only exception to this, so she tought longingly about her.
Her eye is just the symbol of the disfunctionality of her family. Sanji reacting positivly to it is meant to showw her that he's not an asshole like the rest of her family, which is why she'll end up liking him, and will finally convince herself to follow in Lola's path.
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>doffyfags still exist
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>>155790645
Pudding won't join. No relationships between members of the crew.
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>>155791623
That makes sense. I could see her becoming Sanji's Hancock.
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>>155791538
Actually no you stupid fucking nigger cunt.A heavily injured Doffy with all of his organs fucked up by Law would have still defeated Luffy if it wasn't for the gladiators.

Doflamingo can fly is faster,more durable and versatile than Cracker.
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Can't wait till the focus shifts to Wano where Zoro is lost or in jail again
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>>155790785
>>155789916
>>155786595
>>155786102
>>155791171
the ship wars continue
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>>155791566
Nearly the entire fight was off-paneled though.
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>>155791701
>turns out Zoro lost Law and ended up in Fishman Island
>meanwhile Law gets raped in wano
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>>155791623
i could see her not joining but being with the crew for a few arcs like vivi
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>>155791732
it was just doffy blocking hits with his bullshit awakening powers
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>>155791713
>ship wars
How? SAPUFAG is like north Korea. They keep lying to themselves. Pudding being good does not interfere with SaNa. There is no war. Just sapufags crying making shit up
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>yfw sanji kisses pudding's third eye
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>>155791701
he'll be in the same jail as kidd
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>>155791748
She probably needs to get away from WCI now that she failed Big Mom's plan and the family bullies her for the eye anyway.
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>>155791587
Duh.
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>>155790977

what irredeemable actions has she done? Lying to the strawhats in order to follow Mom's plan? When we know that BM controls all her life down to what clothes she wears and we know that she resents that. Would she have decided to make a plan to kill the strawhats on her own? Would she have gone through with it if she had the possibility to call herself out without having to fear Big Mom's wrath?
If the answer is yes then she's evil, if it's no then she's redeemable.
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>>155791806
also she just married sanji
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>>155791806
>She probably needs to get away from WCI now
Not if Luffy goes autismo and calls of the plan to help his new nakama like fucking always. He'll probably beat up everyone until Pudding becomes the leader or can live there safely.
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>>155791587
>not being a doffyfag
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>>155788744
kek
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>>155791774
>Luffy landed several hits on Doffy at the start of the fight
>in the rest of the fight Doffy somehow managed to black all of Luffy's attacks

The only other option here is that awakening Doffy(a weakened one) is equal to g4 Luffy.
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>>155791856
Holy shit, haha, I love her.
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>>155791256
thinking of some other thing to spam and shitpost about
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>>155791931
>inb4 monet threw the note
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>>155786694
because of haki
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>>155791823
Satire?
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>>155791856
Who dat qt?
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>>155791404
neither luffy nor an admiral could do anything against the birdcage, luffy had no problem destroying biscuit soldiers.
Now make 2+2 and think what would happen if doflamingo trapped cracker in the birdcage, or used his awakened powers to turn the soldier biscuits into strings and use them to attack cracker.
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>we thought pudding was the big bad
>it's actually carrot
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>>155791701
>zoro got lost and accidentally ended up on Raftel
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>>155790404
>one piece
>Anime only
anyone who would do that to themselves deserves what they get
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>>155788975
>this is a jellybean man
>looks like he came straight out of the Wild West
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>>155790463
Carrot has oranges in her kimono, Nami has fluffy bunny tails.
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>>155791553
>objectively weaker haki
>Doffy couldn't even scratch G4
>Cracker could
Why do Doffyfags exist again? They never cease to embarrass themselves.
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>>155792006

> Now imagine if Doflamingo do something he never did before.

Stfu. Cracker did way better than Doffy against Luffy. End of the story. And Cracker wasn't taken down in one hit. He tanked G4 for 11 hours with hus df power
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>>155791990
well what irreddemable thing has she done
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>>155792184
Did you read the arc at all?
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>>155792183
doffy was fighting luffy after fighting law and while at the same time using his powers against a whole island including viceadmirals an admiral and a yonko mate. And even so he almost killed luffy.
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>>155792224
why do you keep dodging his question
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>>155792150
Who cares about that, he was top tier husbando material is all.
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I was hoping nakamafags would stay on /trash/.
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>>155792183
Stop being a cancerous Crackerfag that only picks and chooses what he sees.It's a fact that Fujitora and Zoro couldn't cut the birdcage and that Doffy tanked way more hits than Cracker.

You simply hate Doflamingof or no fuckign reason and choose to downplay everything he has done while overhyping the shit out of Cracker.
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>>155792245
he still couldn't do shit against G4 when cracker could not only cut g4 but fight it for 11 hour while nami was exploiting his weakness by wetting his bisket soilders
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>>155792150
Everything else proves that Doffy is way stronger than Cracker yet you continously nitpick on a single SURPRISE attack that Cracker landed on Luffy.Just fucking kill yourself you subhuman-IQ nigger.
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Reminder that Cracker would have bodied this whole jobber fodder family. Also reminder that he would have changed the outcome of the war if he was there and would probably oneshot Jack, Ace and Ceasar.
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>>155785979
>>155785979

Fuckin hyped
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>>155792395

Stop projecting. The only characterfag here is you. I love Doffy. More than Cracker. He's weaker than him that's all.
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>>155792493
>tries to make argument
>gets BTFO
>b-but it doesn't matter now!!
>calls other people "subhuman IQ nigger" while being a Doffyfag
Huh
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>>155792473
>he still couldn't do shit against G4 when cracker could not only cut g4 but fight it
except he could and would have killed luffy if the gladiators hadn't hidden him. And that was while sing the birdcage on the rest of the island rather than on luffy.
and cracker would have no chance against awakened doffy since he'd turn all his soldier biscuits into strings and use cracker's power against him.
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You probably don't remember my post, but in the next dozen or so chapters, I think you'll really come to like Pudding.

Once they kidnap her, she'll be against the whole thing and constantly try to hurt the SH through various means (which is comical in itself, Nami and Robin is constantly stopping her midway in a trap).

Eventually, as she sees what they're like, she wants to join. Once it's time to send her back to wholecake, it really is a heartwarming scene.

Also Pudding is a more mischievous and sadistic girl while pretending to be nice to anyone OUTSIDE the crew. It's a rather fun chemistry so I hope you enjoy it.
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>>155792583
You probably don't remember my post, but in the next dozen or so chapters, I think you'll really come to like Zoro.

He won't appear, but my reddit spacing suggests that he will.

Apparently you will get a glimpse of Wano and basically nothing happened.

I hope you'll enjoy topless Zoro and Law in the same panel!
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Pudding is good!
GOOD!
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>>155792523

Not Jack and Ace... He would probably win against Ace bc more experience. No idea for Jack tho. Probably a tie.
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>>155786694

Sanji 1 billion bountry when?
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>>155792493
>>155792395
doffy lasted less then an hour fighting g4 luffy
. luffy fought cracker all night and only won thanks to hit and run tactics and nami being able to wet the bisket soilders
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>>155792582
kek no he couldn't you stupid Doffyfag. Luffy easily snapped his strings with G4. Doffy didn't and couldn't do shit.
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>>155792579
Luffy didn't even need to use KKG to beat Cracker while he used it to beat a heavily injured and tired Doffy.If it wasn't for Law Doffy could have tanked KKG and even injured as he was he could have dodged.

Luffy never beat him,Doflamingo beat himself.
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>>155791699
tbf, Luffy let Bellamy beat the hit out of him
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>>155792647

> paragraph
> reddit spacing

Have you been in school or write anything in your life before?
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>>155792582
and cracker would have killed luffy if it wasn't for nami and the homies. and now your just amusing doffy string would affect crackers biskets
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>>155792737
>Luffy never beat him
Doffyfags everyone
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>>155792788
>needing a paragraph for 4 sentences talking about the same shit
>leaving space between the post number and the part you quote
>leaving space between the part you quote and your reply
Back to r/manga pls.
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>>155792770
>Doffy getting fucke dup by Law
>Luffy taking a punch from a nearly dead Bellamy.

There's literally no comparison between the two.
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>>155792662
>falling for this trick.
She'll maybe redeem herself and start chasing Sanji, but he'll reject her to follow where his heart leads him, to Nami

>>155792788
>reddit spacing
I visit reddit everyday and nobody uses that spacing.
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>>155792737
>Doffy would have tanked KKG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>155792881
>I visit reddit everyday
Please stay there.
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>>155792737

> implying his finishing move against Cracker wasn't as strong
> implying he wouldn't have used KKG against Cracker after 11 hours of risking his life if it had any chance to connect.
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>namifags are redditors
Fitting
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>>155792493
>>155792473
The question to ask is how would Cracker's biscuit soldiers fare against Doflamingo? It's not as simple as saying he beat him therefore he also beats that guy.

For example, Luffy beat Enel, but people that were stronger than Luffy at the time might very well have lost to Enel. That's what happens when a fight isn't decided by just strength. Some abilities counter others or some fighters are more equip to handle some other fighters.
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>>155792949
All shipping is tumblr
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>>155792911
>this must reaching

You are literally deluded,seek mental help
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>>155792737
luffy using kkg on cracker would have been a bad idea , cracker fights with and ARMY of bisket soilders and wasting all your strength on probably one is a bad idea . and doffy didn't beat himself he got knocked out
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>>155792523
All Sugar has to do is touch him and he dies
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>there are zero (0) DoffyXNami Doujins
Damn
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>>155793044
To bad, she'd only touch his soldier at best and die to a single hit.
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>>155792987

Doflamingo wouldn't be able to break them. Only chance for him is if he can turn his biscuits into strings.
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>>155786102

I fucking hope so. This way that one fucking autistic SaNa shipper finally offs herself.
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friendly reminder that the crackerfag is the sanafag under another disguise. And also the monetfag.
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>>155792949
not to mention they're also canadian
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>sanji promises pudding or the fucking maid that he will come back one day and bang her
>gets on the ship
>every thread until the last chapter is full of crying sanamifags saying that he will betray pudding/the maid for nami because XYZ
There is literally no escape unless Sanji actually kisses or fucks someone
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>>155787100

Ironic since one of the few villains that actually died in the series outside of a flashback was female. Monet never got any pity flashback and was killed off.
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>>155792993
>All shipping is
cancer
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>>155785979
god this angers me so much

oda is such a shit writer since the timeskip
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>>155793107
FTFY
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>>155792667

I bet he takes over germa soon
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>>155785979
So Pudding is likely to get redeemed by Sanji. We probably get to learn more of her backstory on why she became such a bitch in the first place. Maybe something about Lola and her father.

Called it, this isn't the first time Oda redeemed a evil female character.
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>>155793207
but she isn't dead
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Why are people celebrating? From the way the spoiler is worded it sounds like it's only Katakuri's vision of the future and he tries to shoot Sanji before it actually happens
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>>155793057
>DoffyXNami
Wew, now that's a crackship if I ever heard of one.
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>>155793132

> the

We are like 5 people arguing with you. Doffyfag. And no, trying to associate the peoples who are btfo'ing you to some deluded peoples isn't going to work. Especially since you are clearly the deluded characterfag here.
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>>155793268
No, his vision is only

>as he sees the future where Pudding breaks down crying.
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>>155793183
Sanji is now MARRIED to Pudding.

She won't die. Sanji won't die. They're bound before Enel until their deaths.

Sanji is off the market. Shipping over.
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>>155792737

>Luffy didn't even need to use KKG to beat Cracker

Nothing G4 had could've helped out with Cracker, hell if it was straight up Luffy in G4 vs Cracker, Luffy would've lost easily.

Luffy needed G4 to destroy his fucking Soldiers, and Cracker could spawn them again and again, hell he did so for like 11 hours, Luffy could only stay in G4 for like 20-30 minutes.
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>>155790658
>No i just don't want pages wasted on "Luffy isn't waking up"

That's a fucking constant in One Piece before the climax of the arc. And sometimes in the middle of the climax, i.e. Dressrosa.
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>>155792987
If Doflamingo's haki is stronger than Cracker's then he could turn the biscuits into string,it also depends on how strong Doflamingo's God thread is when Doffy is not injured.

Let's not forget that Doflamingo is faster,can fly and has ranged attacks so Cracker would have no possible way of hurting him.
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>>155793350
>If Doflamingo's haki is stronger than Cracker's then he could turn the biscuits into string
u focking w0t
where the fuck was this mentioned?
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>>155793336
>Sanji now married to pudding
Need the chapter for that. We don't know that retard. Don't say shit before you get BTFO.
If they got married then Sanji is not part of the crew anymore
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>>155793342
His KKG could have went through the biscuit soldiers and fucked Cracker up.
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>>155793412
Yeah man just like Bege left the Bege Crew after marrying into big moms family
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Nami is a gold digging whore who's probably taken a hundred dicks, including fish dicks. (not to be confused with fish sticks, though I'm sure Arlong shoved one or two of those up there at some point)
Meanwhile, Pudding is a virgin princess just waiting for Sanji to save her from the clutches of Big Mom and redeem her.

>Captcha: BOBBIN HOTEL
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Reminder that Mihawk's sword isn't actually a sword, it's just a big wooden plank that he keeps permanently infused with haki.
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>>155793469
Not the same situation since they wanted to be under big mom.
Luffy does not. Did you even read Zou dumbass? Pekoms explained all of this
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>>155793411

It wasn't.

The Haki on Cracker's soldiers was stronger than anything Luffy has seen.
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>>155793216

How so? We predicted it would happen. It happen all the time irl.
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>Pudding will become nakama
>Jinbe will die
>Monet is still dead
>Sanji is still a huge cuck as well as a cook and this year of Sanji thing just made him seem even more pathetic than ever before
>No Mr Prince stuff
>Big Mom is going to get defeated in some unsatisfying way
>Carrot will cease to exist for the next 10+ chapters
>Pudding will be nakama

How does this make you feel?
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>>155793522
What difference does it make retard? They will still do their plan even if sanji marries pudding and sanji will still leave with them. The question is only if pudding will to or remain behind. Big Mom will fall here, so no one will give a single fuck about Sanji's friends at the east blue.
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>>155793527
That's the shitty niggerstream translation you retarded fucking cunt,in the official translation it simply says that Cracker has strong Haki.
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>>155793513

Nonsense.
His sword is made of solidified haki.
Such is the final level of swordsmen, where the blade exists in their soul itself.
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>>155793411
Doffy thought Vergo's haki was too strong to be cut by Law's fruit,the same logic applies here.
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>>155793527
not even what I was talking about.
Haki makes you able to use an awakened paramecia to cancel out other paramecias? isn't that not a thing at all?
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>>155793428

Not much is stopping Cracker from just moving and spawning more Soldiers.

In their straight up fight Luffy never even touched him. It would be a waste of stamina, Luffy's Kong Organ wasted all of Cracker's Soldiers, and he just spawned more.

His fighting style consisted of burning stamina and striking when he could. Which would work wonders if Luffy whipped out his biggest attack.
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>>155793594
Why are you so mad? All I said was to wait and see of they got married or not. The spoilers don't say it.
Come back tomorrow
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>>155793686
>All I said was to wait and see of they got married or not.
Good thing we were discussing
>If they got married then Sanji is not part of the crew anymore
instead.
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>>155793583
Pretty damn good.
Puddingfags BTFO fags eternally BTFO
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>>155793670
>Haki makes you able to use an awakened paramecia to cancel out other paramecias? isn't that not a thing at all?
I don't think that's the case at all? It simply allowed them to physically attack logia types, I believe.
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>>155793428

Why he din't use it then? Maybe bc it wouldn't work retard. He had to use another transfo to trick Cracker and beat him. Another proof of his superiority.
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Can't you faggots just agree that this is the logical conclusion here?

The other calamities>Jack>Doflaming>Katakuri>Smoothie>Luffy>Cracker
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>>155793814
>Jack above anyone

He seems like the type to inflate his bounty through excessive killing
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>>155793814
Doflamingo is under all of them. And the 3th in Kaido's hierarchy is stronger than the 1th in Big Mom's?
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>>155793914
Again Sanji dodged Katakuri's attack while he got 2 shotted by Doffy.Even with his haki Katakuri wasn't fast enough to hit Sanji.
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>>155793874

Is this the only time Nami has had this gag? I wouldn't mind seeing it more often, desu.
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>>155787100
Welcome to 95% of all fiction ever.
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>>155793979
Difference is that Sanji didn't try dodging Doffy, but took him head on to save the others.
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>>155794020
She also says that she likes strong marine woman, if that counts.
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>>155794055
This is what happens when you have a single lesbian parent.
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>>155787100
Big Mom's redemption when?
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>>155791801
I already started on a doujin where Sanji rubs his penis on Pudding's 3rd eye.
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>>155794026
Uhm no, the attack was directed at sanji, in the sky, hundreds of meters away from the ship.
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>>155794134
what difference does this make to one that can fly?
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>>155793979
that cause sanji was going for the offensive with doffy , if he wanted to run away from doflamingo he probably could have
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>>155793583
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>>155794134
Literally the whole point of the fight was that Sanji saved the ship by fighting Doffy. You should reread the arc.
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>>155794156
What on earth are you talking about?
Sanji couldn't dodge the attack. And he could barely handle Vergo.
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>>155794134
Imagine Sanji dodging Doffy's attack and letting Doffy attack Nami and co. instead.
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>>155794055

I was talking about the
>I would be happy if she were my secretary
gag
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>>155793814
Fucking Doffyfags think that Doffy is stronger than all 3 of Big Mom's Sweet Commanders. Hahahaha.
And anyway, its still way too early in the series to be comparing Smoothie and Katakuri to the other calamities. We don't know what they're capable of, however I doubt Jack's top 3 commanders are that much stronger than Big Mom's top 3 commanders. The only logical conclusion we can as of right now is:

Cracker >Luffy > Doffy
Luffy BTFO Doffy at Dressrosa with his KKG, and Luffy only beat Cracker because he was a fighting a 2v1 with Nami. Cracker would've worn down and defeated Luffy in a 1v1.
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>>155793914
>And the 3th in Kaido's hierarchy is stronger than the 1th in Big Mom's?

Yes,BM will go down this arc against only a fraction of the forces that will defeat Kaido

>WB remnants
>Mink tribe
>Kidd pirates
>Drake pirates
>Heart pirates
>Hawkins pirates
>Apoo pirates
>the entire SH crew
>Wano samurai

All of this will be needed to defeat the Beasts Pirates.Kaido is the strongest character in OP so naturally his commanders should be stronger than BM's as well considering how he doesn't have dozens of mid tier crewmembers like BM has.
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>>155793814

Luffy on his own is well below Cracker, he needed help and used hit and run tactics for 11 hours for a reason.

I don't know why you'd put Smoothie above Cracker and Luffy considering she hasn't done anything other than drain no-names.

Katakuri also hasn't done anything other than shoot a guy and miss a shot on Sanji, we haven't even seen him get serious on anything.

Dolfamingo should be below all of them as of now considering Luffy gets stronger every arc, and Jack hasn't done much either. He just fought two guys who worked with Roger and nuked them when he got bored.
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>>155794176
Yes, but how would dodging that attack stop him from achieving that goal? The attack wans't aimed at the crew. Surely he could have dodged it and done a counter attack instead of getting BTFO by the true pirate king, Doffy.
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>>155794216
You're retarded.
See
>>155794252
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Reminder that Monet can't be dead because women don't have hearts.
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>>155794226
She says it about Kalifa because Kalifa worked as Iceburg's secretary while undercover.

I don't remember if she wa any similar lines about other characters.
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>>155792987
>The question to ask is how would Cracker's biscuit soldiers fare against Doflamingo?
>goes on to explain precisely why that question is irrelevant
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>>155793583
Pudding would be even more borring than Carrot as a nakama, so it feels kinda meh
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>>155794252
>>155794284
You're retarded. The entire fight Sanji is willingly attacking Doffy without thinking about dodging even once. Why? Because if he evades Doffy would get enough time to attack the ship. Sanji was pressing him, because Doffy baited him, retard.
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>>155794208
>Sanji couldn't dodge the attack
because he was flying? because if that's the reason he couldn't dodge you need to reread the chapter or stop posting here.
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Vinsmoke Pudding huh.
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>>155793583
I'd be disappointed because SHs don't need another Poneglyph reader.
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Damn I wonder if doffy's fucking whip would penetrate sanji and destroy the ship...
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>>155794026
How does fighting Doffy and dodging his attacks contradit eachother.Doffy's attacks were directed at Sanji.If he had dodged it,if he had dodged it then he could have kept on fighting Doffy and bought more time for Nami and the others to escape.
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>>155794404
They obviously will when Robin gets kidnapped again. This time by Aokiji who brings her to BB, so he can do shit and stuff
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>>155793874
We saw her share a bed with Robin.
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>>155794403
Reiju said Charlotte kids never change their family name to their spouse's.
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>>155794458
>How does fighting Doffy and dodging his attacks contradit eachother.
Attacking someone when you get attacked and dodging instead are two different things. Maybe look up the definition.
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>>155794433
What's this again?
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>>155794499
Dodging would have given hi the opportunity for a counterattack retard.
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>>155794497
Well, Sanji is not going to change his crew.
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>>155794545
Law saving Sanji and the ship.

>>155794558
>counterattack
Which does nothing to Doffy, wow. The chanche that he'd dodge and Doffy would break through was much bigger then doffy doing anything when he continously attacks. Doffy needed to take care of him first that way. I think you forgot the fight already.
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>>155794499
How does getting immobilized by Doffy's string help Sanji attack Doffy?
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>>155794657
>Which does nothing to Doffy, wow.

Does a whole fucking lot more then getting paralized by Doffy and giving him the perfect opportunity to attack his crewmates you fucking retarded nigger.
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>>155794717
Who said it did? It was still the only way to save them. He annoyed Doflamingo until Law was ready. Doffy wasn't interested in a 1 on 1 which is shows as he tries to go to the ship asap.
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>>155785979
>At the signal of Katakuri's shot, Luffy begins his entrance into the ceremony, and countless number of Luffy's come flying out of the wedding cake.
are we not going to talk about this? Did Luff awaken his fruit and he is able to make rubber clones from his body or turn cake into luffys?
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>>155794787
Actually no, as a """surprise""" attack also did nothing, retard. See >>155794795. As I said read the fucking fight. Instead of saving his skin he needed to job.
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>>155794795
Was Doffy a better villain than Big Meme?
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>>155794814
brulee's ability
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>>155794657
>If Sanji dodges Doffy then he can keep on attacking him
>If he doesnt then he can not

What the fuck is it so hard to understand,not dodging that attack only serves against his goals.
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>>155794814
It's Brulee's mirror clones Spee D. Reader.
The real question is how did Luffy get into the cake?
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>>155794814
Nami's Mirage Tempo.
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>>155794814

That's actually a pretty good point.

Maybe that mirror woman is helping out against her will.

She did do something similar to Nami and co.
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>>155787269
>Rob Lucci wasn't evil
LMAO
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>>155794883
>If Sanji dodges Doffy then he can keep on attacking him
except he can't because then doffy runs at the ship and blows it up.
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>>155794883
Because you're brain dead. Here's what happened after Sanjitook the first hit >>155794795. You think Doffy would have done nothing if Sanji dodged instead and there would be much more space between them?
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>>155787100
Big Mom should not be redeemed.
She should be like Dolfy.
Sad past? Sure. Still an evil bastard.

I mean, she kills her own children. Who the fuck does that? At least Dolfy treated the guys who didn't betray him well.
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>>155794844
I don't think Sanji losing to Doffy qualifies as jobbing asshat. Everyone knew Doffy was stronger.

Sanji losing to Vergo. Now that was jobbing.
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>>155789916
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>>155794916
DARK JUSTICE! JUSTICE, LIKE LIGHTNING!
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>>155794960
>At least Dolfy treated the guys who didn't betray him well.
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>>155795049
Not him, but I assume anon was talking about Doffy's family, his personal crew. Bellamy wanted to be a part of it, hence his participation in the tournament, but he just didn't make the cut.
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>>155795155
>>155795049
anyone not in the family is human garbage
especially Belly, but he'd be human gatrbage even if he was family
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>>155794941
But Sanji didn't dodge and that still gave Doffy the opportunity to attacks the SH with Sanji being unable to do anything about it,if he dodged the he could at the very least have tried to help them.Stop being such a braindead faggot.Your hatred for Doffy makes you so autistic that you outright ignore common fucking sense.
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>>155795049
Bellamy is an exception, he had the misfortune of reminding Doffy of his father. In Doffy's eyes, Bellamy is a fool who gave up on a good, privileged life. He only bullied the guy because of his own daddy issues.
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>>155795282
What makes you think he could dodge? Even Smoker couldn't dodge Doffys strings. And he is faster and made of Smoke
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>>155795282
>if he dodged the he could at the very least have tried to help them
Not really if he dodged th first time, doffy would have pulled his string shit right away as he did after Sanji got annoying. By just attacking him over and over without a care about himself he actually made the fight longer. The only braindead faggot is you.

This whole discussion comes down to you forgetting the fight.
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>>155791171
It's funny how nothing you say has substance. It's always "grrrr one day I'll get you! Just you wait!!"
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>>155791171
>mfw ShikaTema happened, and I called it during the Chuunin exams as a kid
>mfw Chihiro won Godbowl
>mfw Sakura wastes her life on a deadbeat and another woman's child
>mfw Index gets season 3, and won the Kasumabowl prior amnesia
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>>155794235

He's allied with the shogun and there's a big difference. It's not an all out war agaisnt the whole forces of Big Mom. They said it, they wouldn't stand a chance if it was. It will be chaos and betrayals.
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>>155791171
>SasuSaku

Why the fuck would you want that?
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>>155791801
>kyaa~~!
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>>155795323
That's exactly my point,if Sanji could have dodged he would have since there was no reasonf or him to just stand there and take the attack.Sanji simply wasn't fast enough to dodge Doffy,read the whole topic.
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>>155795583
>no reason
>except the boat full of nakama that can't defend themselves
can't read chapters, can't read threads, at least your illiteracy is consistent.
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>>155789916
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>>155794343
>if you dodge an attack you're not pressing him
If you don't get fucked up, you can continue fighting.
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>>155795660
I am talking about Sanji dodging the parasite string,how the fuck would taking that head on save time or help him protect his crew?.You people are literaly fucking retarded,your stupidity can't even be descrived in words at this point.Getting caught by that attack only left Sanji helpless.

If Sanji dodged it he could have kept on attacking it's as simple as that and no matter in which way you try to spin it that is the only logical conclusion.Your mental gymnastics are worse than those of a SJW.
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>>155785979
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>>155795930
Thank god someone else in this thread has enough common sense to realize it,thanks for not being a dumbass anon.
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>>155793412
>Need the chapter for that. We don't know that retard.
>>155793686
>All I said was to wait and see of they got married or not.
The plan was for Pudding to show her eye when they were to kiss and then shoot Sanji. The spoilers have Sanji complimenting her eye.

You may now kiss the bride = already married.
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>>155795943
umad?
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>>155795959
Is Sanji the original cuck?
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>>155795583
Theres an anon in these threads that will purposely be wrong as fuck about everything and will never stop replying. He is a sad person with too much time on their hands when someone is as obviously wrong as that he didn't dodge on purpose guy just ignore him. An it is only one guy. No two people are dumb enough to believe that.
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>>155796109
hi r/the_donald!!!!!!!!
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>Countless amounts of Luffy

So how does he pull this off?
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>>155795930
Yeah, no. If he dodged Doffy would have used the whip attack right away. Instead he thought he got Sanji with that one attack and the fight got long enough for law to interfere.
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>>155792737
Why do people assume that Luffy wouldn't have won if Law didn't injure Doflamingo?

Do any of you even remember Lucci? He was at least a tier above Luffy, and even at max strength and pushed to his limit, Lucci still stood a chance. Even then, Luffy didn't give up or run, he still beat hi

Even if Law didn't injure Doflamingo, Luffy would have pushed through anyway.


Besides, let's not pretend Doflamingo wasn't fighting at 100%. Damage in anime isn't cumulative in the sense that it hinders you throughout the entire fight. A character can fight for 100% for as long as they want until the author deems it worth enough to bring the injury back up before he can defend himself against a winning attack.

Ex
>Villian gets cut deep in the leg. Fights 100% as if nothing ever happened for 2 episodes. When it's time to do Thier power clash, villian suddenly remembers his damage leg and buckles, giving the MC a chance to overpower him.
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>>155796109
he's the only one of the straw hats that getting lad
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>>155795959
Be right back, my vagina is puking blood.
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>>155795943
Kill yourself.
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>>155796246
No, seriously. His line translates to forgiving a woman even if she's a cheating piece of shit

>>155796315
Only due to Luffy not caring
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>>155796209

There's way more than one. The Doffyfag and Sanji couldve dodged aren't the same dude. Almost everyone is like that on 4chan desu
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>>155796297
>Nami is there

Take a guess
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>>155796313
>plot armor makes it plausible that a close fight would have ended the same way
>this is somehow preferable to saying that it was a joint effort
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HA HA PUDDING REDEMPTION IS HAPPENING

SUCK IT FAGGOTS
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>>155796375
Robin is the one who makes clones.
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>>155796356
To be a cuck you have to be turned on by your significant other cheating. Sanji isn't like that.
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>>155796397
I'm not saying it's preferable, I'm just saying that it would have ended the same either way.

The plot demanded that Luffy won against Doflamingo so it was going to happen no matter what. People use Doflamingo being weaker as an excuse of why Luffy's power level is all over the place, and it's annoying.
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>>155796361
No its one dude. Because this guy only argues when is is completely obviously wrong like 100%. People will retard out about their ridiculous fan theories and make ones up specifically designed to piss of certain "fags". But this troll just likes being wrong.
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>>155796528
sanji is always turned on by everything
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>>155796527
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>>155796298
Sanji couldn't have known that though,and again he would have used the attackon Sanji and not the ship since he was closer to him and posed more of a threat in that instant.

Sanji cimply couldn't odge that attack,and there's nothing wrong with it.
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>>155796375
Doesn't Mirage tempo require setup?
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>>155796016
Sanji cucks are delusional. Doffy would have 2 shotted Sanji if it weren't for Law.
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>>155796588
Nami has her new clima-tact now
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>>155796561
Can you stop creating boogeymans for no reason.
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>>155786464

Bet Lola was one of the few that didn't mind the third eye.
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>>155796587
>Sanji couldn't have known that though
At the same time he never once thinks about dodging

>he would have used the attackon Sanji and not the ship since he was closer to him and posed more of a threat in that instant
See >>155794433. He would have trashed both right away.

>Sanji cimply couldn't odge that attack,and there's nothing wrong with it.
That's where you're wrong. If he didnt even try why should we just assume it? The first attack Doffy made was low-tier shit.
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Brûlée can make copies too.
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>>155796313

It works like in a video game unless stated otherwise. Doffy lost a big part of his life gauge but was still fighting at 100% during the whole fight. Luffy lost less life pts but almost the entierety of his mana gauge.
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>Pudding falls in love with Sanji
>they both agree to the marriage
>Big Mom kills Pudding
>Punished Sanji for the rest of the series
I'd be okay with this.
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>>155796613
Well yea but to make mirages you need the correct atmospheric pressure and humidity.

She'd still have to set up something.

She used to need fog and shit, then she just needed to set shit up in FI. But I doubt she can do it from within a cake and have it carry over to the outside.

But there's no point in rationalizing this, Oda can do whatever the fuck he wants.
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Doflamingo > Big meme

What can that fat bitch do against the bird cage?

NOTHING

Her meme crew is fucking pathetic
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>>155796615
boogeymans bring us all together though, if we invent some imaginary scapegoat we can feel like being a keyboard warrior on an anonymous image board is fighting the good fight. I'm not justifying his boogeyman-making btw, just saying he wants this person to exist so he can pin all of the shortcomings of others on a specific person, so it's unlikely he can stop.
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new thread

>>155796749
>>155796749
>>155796749
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>>155796595

I doubt he would've been ko'd by that. He would ve badly loss but not from that alone.
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>>155796361
Well obviously you retard,i'm the Doffyfag arguing with the stupid cunt saying that Sanji could have dodged.I bet he is the same retard who argued me that Cracker is stronger than Doffy.
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>>155795959

And thus, women continue to be lying pieces of shit.
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>>155796561
Why the fuck would i argue with myself for the whole thread you stupid faggot? The whole shit started afte ri pointed out that Sanji could dodge Katakuri but he couldnt dodge Doffy,and that triggered the autist.

t,Doffyfag
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>>155796860
I know you are. And i don't know if he is. We were more than one, Doffyfag. I'm one of them. You are maybe right this time but as i see, you are involved in the two arguments. Clearly telling a lot.
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>>155796860
Well then you showed in two different discussions that you have bo reading comprehension. Congratulations.
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>Doffyfag on suicide watch
Wew man
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>>155797024
You're the only retard here that thinks Sanji got fucked up on purpose.No one agrees with you,fuck off.
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>>155796713
The Clima Tact she use in the forest battle is different from the FI Clima Tact. In the anime the new Clima Tact is gold-colored, so we can assume it doesn't need a setup
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>>155796712
Add: >Sanji goes Okama mode and literally kicks Big Mom's ass
And then wer'e good.
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>>155797190
Actually it seems no one agrees with you, be it the crackershit or the sanji fight, but nice projecting, speedreader.
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>>155797253
See >>155796209
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>>155797348
>more projecting
Ok
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>>155797348
see>>155796615
faggot
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>>155785979
Leave Jobberkuri and Sanjo to me!
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leave jobbing to me
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>>155798086
>leave the shitposting to me
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