Does anyone else hate how Mary Sueish the Jojo's can seem

Those things have nothing to do with being a mary sue.

MCs for fujo shows are usually like that.

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Johnny is an exception. His whole theme is character growth, and even if he never reaches what he wanted he is happy with what he got. He can only use his bullshit op move in a very specific circumstance, other than that he is a crippled murderous sociopath dickhead that dosnt even win the race or get the corpse. He sets out on his journey with very selfish goals and walks out of it all with the humble yield of his fathers approval and a hot japanese wife

>>155670370
>who is Jonathan Joestar
>who is Jolyne Cujoh

Giorno is the only Mary Sue JoJo.

>>155670370
No, only you.

>>155670370
Why is jojo so bad?

>Always somehow become wealthy
Only Jonathan, Joseph were wealthy by inheritance. Jotaro and Josuke were middle-class, Giorno was literally robbing suckers for cash, Jolyne was a criminal, Johnny was a world-class athlete before his injury.
>They're all supposed to be super attractive
Joestar genes
>They usually have some asspull or super op type bullshit move
Because their archenemies had super op asspull moves too
>They're almost super genius tier with the bullshit they think up on the fly
Every character with a stand were super creative in their usage.

>>155673955
Because it's for fags

>>155674172
>Jotaro and Josuke were middle-class,

No, Jotaro's dad was a famous musician and Joseph became a real-estate tycoon in between part 2 and 3. Jotaro also becomes a famous biologist by the end of Part 4 all of them are wealthy.