Why was she not more popular?

she got outshined by the star named rem

>>155653317
Nobody gives a shit about that bland elf

Is this a bait thread?

>>155653368
>star
you mean otaku bait?

Because despite murdering the MC, Rem was an infinitely better romantic interest

>>155653317
I like her more than Rem

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Emilia is the shallow man's choice

Because she is a literal doormat

>>155653317
>Why would she? Generic damsel in distress characters are boring. Her design won't help her much.

>>155653317
I dropped the show but wasn't the entire plot about how incompatible she and the MC were?

>>155653961
That part of their interaction is seriously explored ony in story arcs that take place after the anime ended

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>>155653317
She was supposed to be the centerpiece of the show but hogging the spotlight without having anything actually going for her ultimately backfired

>>155654193
the other arcs also show how incompatible they are. the more we learn about her and the more the MC develops the less their relationship does make sense

>>155653317
That same anime also has Ram and Rem.

>>155654475
Ram a shit, though.

She looks cute, but it's a pretty bland character tbqh

>>155654355
Yes but it becomes explict only from Arc 4 onwards
>Otto calling him out for chasing a delusion
>Subaru's relationship with Emilia explictly not progressing
>Subaru slipping in his commitment to Emilia in favor of Rem
All of this only happens after the anime

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>>155653317
it is
>developed woman (despite being very young mentally)
vs
>author's waifubait

emilia has ambitions of her own, can and will get angry at you if you lie to her and will not fall in love with you just because you are a "nice guy". expect otakus to have PTSD tier flashbacks of being ignored by real women when she is on screen.

rem is a completely empty shell (in the anime atleast) whose only visible traits are loyalty and devotion. being the author's waifubait, she is in permalove with the MC and will do anything for him no matter what he does from now on. bonus for brutally killing the MC, which will actually score her points with the masochistic otakus.

>>155655063
>emilia
>not waifubait
she just feels like most main girls. Everyone likes a side girl more but the author likes the main girl more so he just bullies the other girl as much as possible before shipping the MC with maingirl

>>155654801
The point is those two are way better than Emilia. You can argue that with me about Ram but I doubt you can argue with me about Rem.

Because she's a shit girl and people that like her should be beheaded.

>>155653317
She's a bitch, she should worship the ground Subaru walks on, but instead she is haughty.

>>155655465
>>155655416
- Subaru

>>155655063
Found the slut

>>155655063
>pretending to have watched the show
any normal person would get angry about lies, the funny thing is that Emilia thought h
she was at fault. Subaru never lied to Rem so she never had reasons to be angry at first place and yet she's the only character that will act against Subaru's bad sides.

>>155655295
At least Ram made me care enough to hate her for loving that shitbag of a clown.

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>>155653317
Only true patricians can appreciate EMT.

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>>155653317
Well for me its solely because the more I got to know about Emilia and how overpowered she is the less I seem to like her. As despite being so strong she still needs to be babysitted and saved, as well as a damsel in distress. Then there is her Witch bloodline that's fishy as fuck. Plus her motives more or less being half-assed, especially the king candidacy.

>>155653317
She was missing during the better arcs of the show.

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>>155653317
Lack of screentime

>>155653317
She is absolutely stunning, but in early teen years you still live in that absurd fantasy that personality is also relevant; given that all other waifu are hot as well, they went for the most obvious waifubait of them all.

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>>155655063
>>155656922
>>155657033
>being this wrong

>>155655295
>>155656865
Ram fucks clown cock she is the worst girl

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>>155657350
Isn't it time for your daily BCC session, Ram?

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>>155657459
At least I have something to do you useless dunce

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She was claimed by an unchallenged alpha male. Little beta Remfags are everywhere, but only the best males can challenge him for EMT.

>>155657518
>being that desperate for clown's cock.

She's too vanilla for this series, she was pretty popular before Rem but even Puck, Beatrice and Ram rank higher now.

>>155653317
Because it's an actual case of a relatively realistic girl (personality-wise, that is) being put up against a more genericized idealistic woman - which others derisively refer to as 'waifubait' - who would normally be the heroine of an isekai (Rem) and people end up flocking to her instead.

>>155657407
Fuck you nee-sama is amazing. The clown just needs to die first and to find her own Subaru.

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Emilia is precious, it's not hard to see why subaru pretty much temporally broke after seeing her die a couple times.

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>>155657932
Please stop posting upside-down claims

>>155657459
what's a BCC session?

>>155657932
What part of Emilia's personality realistic? She thought kissing made babies fuck sakes and her good girl personality.

>>155653317
Because she's a dirty socialist and will ruin her country if given the throne.

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>>155658013
A period of time in which Ram inserts Roswaal's 30cm cock all the way into her vaginal cavity.

BCC stands for Big Clown Cock

>>155656865
Yeah it's totally Ram's fault for not being able to choose who she should have fallen in love with. Like seriously anon, that's not how love works. You can't make Ram love another guy just because you hate Roswaal.

>>155653317
Barely in the show.

>>155657533
>She was claimed by an unchallenged alpha male

Well youre right about that. Regulus and arguably Arch did claim her.

>>155653317
Because her body was too explosively hot for the Nips. They needed something younger and flatter.

>>155658081
ok, thanks

>>155658097
I dont give a fuck. Ram turned into such a bastard because of the clown that she was even willing to throw Rem under the bus and became such a doormat that she willingly lets herself get killed by him. The faster the clown dies the better.

>>155653317
>Why was she not more popular?
Because there wasn't enough information about her character, she is hardly seen throughout the series, she complained about the main character caring too much for her and she's got no personality.
Give it some time, she will eventually become waifu material, not better then Rem but still waifu material nonetheless.

>>155658097
It would be better is she did to be honest, Gaaf was coming real close but he pussied out and his love was just platonic

>>155658268
>she complained about the main character
Yes, he was an overprotective white knight. She couldnt take a shit without suberu walking in and offering to lick her butthole clean.

>>155658334
Not him but to be fair that would be an accurate statement as of arc 4. Unlike the anime Emilia was flubbing during her speech which then had Subaru try to defend her. Not saying his spergout on episode 13 was justified but Emilia really wasnt able to handle pressure to which Subaru had to step in.

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>>155658558

>>155658558
fucking moby dick man, killing dank waifus like theresia.

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>>155656922
Echidna Maji Tenshi?

>>155658510
>Emilia really wasnt able to handle pressure to which Subaru had to step in.
I didnt read the books but if you fumble a speech its btter to just bear it than have someone else stand up for you. It will just show you cannot hold a speech to the point someone else feels the need to stand up and defend you.
If you fuck up a speech, would you want someone to stand up and say youre perfect and everything is okay?

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>>155658594
Just felt like posting some new ones.

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>>155658632
I had typeset this one too.

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Why did they give Elsa the best design but she was barely involved.

I'll spell it out for you /a/
A lot of you are kids that don't get it
Others are inexperienced permavirgins
And the remainder are literal retards

Emilia is a complete and whole person. She knows her place in life, who she is, and what she wants.

Rem is a broken individual who views herself as the less half of her sister. Until Subaru came around she was fine just following around her sister to whatever end.

Subaru is also a broken person, who masquerades his weaknesses with false bravado instead of owning them and growing. This is why Emilia sees through him and is repelant to him.

If a broken person loves a person who is whole, then all that person does it take pieces away from that whole person.

Broken people are naturally attracted to each other, because they can give each other of being whole by filling in where each other lacks. This is an illusion, and inevitably these couples fall apart. It's given Rem a hope for a future that will likely never happen, because of how broken Subaru is.

At best, Subaru and Rem can nurse each other's wounds and shortcomings. If the two of them learn, grow, and become self dependent maybe they could work. I'm willing to bet Subaru changes slower than Rem, and she leaves him.

>>155658804
>She knows her place in life, who she is, and what she wants.
I laughed IRL

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>>155658777
She comes back later.

ROASTED ELSA

>>155659056
How hard was elsa at that scene?

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People love Emilia, it's just that Rem overshadowed them in the anime because of the 2nd and 3rd arc.

No worries, I like Rem too but she's a literal who now, it's time for Emilia to take the show.

>>155659956
After the following 3 story arcs where she does get to do shit and still is far behind the potato I'd say that it's a lost cause

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>>155653317
Because people especially Remfags got jealous and mad 'cause Emilia was being in the spotlight while Rem was nowhere to be found in the most important scene of the series so far (pic related). It makes sense though because Subaru's feelings for Rem aren't even strong to begin with so of course Subaru wouldn't mention or even think about Rem in that scene, but Remfags love to think otherwise.

>>155660517
If anyone didn't notice, this is a parody post

>>155660583
No it's not. Stop trying to reject the truth Remfags.

>>155655063
Well, you're not completely wrong. Every Re:Zero female is waifubait.
That includes Emilia and Rem, of course.

>>155653317
because she was a shit.
it's pretty simple.

>>155661449
Crusch

>>155658804
>Emilia is a complete and whole person. She knows her place in life, who she is, and what she wants.
That's literally wrong on every account. She's literally missing some of her most important memories, she's emotionally dependent on Puck, and she's just sort of doing things because people told her she might be able to get a miracle out of it.

>>155654887
>Subaru slipping in his commitment to Emilia in favor of Rem
Does it look like Rem's going to win the Subarubowl in the end?

>>155661934
Nope. Subaru loves Emilia too so.

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>>155661934
You're just going to get biased opinions from asking that. He's probably going to end up paying more attention to Rem for awhile after she wakes up. If she's not too disoriented to use that time effectively, she'll probably make some kind of progress.

>>155661449
Crusch isn't, Anastasia isn't.

>>155653317

Subaru's relationship with Rem wound up getting more spotlight and was developed much better overall in the material shown in the anime, whereas in the back half of the anime Emilia either isn't around or around but not doing much to endear the audience to her. This is, of course, because Rem goes away for a while after the material the anime covers so she kind of had to have a lot of stuff happen with her before that.

I'd imagine that if a season 2 ever happens Emilia will become at least a little more popular among the fanbase.

>>155653317
because the author fucked up

>>155662203
Rem's self-esteem will be struck hard as she learns about how everyone risked their life just to save her ass. So most likely Rem won't dare make any move on Subaru after she wakes up, especially when it might upset Emilia, who should be considered Rem's savior by that time.

>>155660517
Wtf is with your reasoning. It's simply because she's hardly interesting to most people. Btw that's not even the most important scene lol "From Zero" is.

>It makes sense though because Subaru's feelings for Rem aren't even strong to begin

A perfect example of being deluded.

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Emilia is a fetish character pandering to purityfags. Problem is, pretty much no one is a purityfag. Not even in Japan.

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>>155663191
No one?
>>155663046
They were apparently strong enough that someone felt they had to be toned down in the LN.

>>155653317
>shallow character development
>acts like a total bitch and doesn't see the bigger picture despite having it more or less explained to her
>MC is unwaveringly faithful to her despite other characters treating him better

>>155659956
>Emilia to take the show

You realize the rest of the arc is still her being damsel in distress? Plenty of people already read past Arc 4 or 5 and her popularity hardly changed.

>>155653317
how big would the butthurt be if felix won

>>155663461
That's gay.

>>155663413
Well, that's a natural problem. Subaru is the main character, and has very little direct power. Emilia has a shit ton of raw power.

So, how can Subaru be useful? Why does Emilia need him at all? Scenarios have to be manufactured to explain this. Emilia needs to be sorely lacking in some traits if she needs Subaru to compensate for them.

>>155663572
>Emilia needs to be sorely lacking in some traits

She's dumb as a brick.

>>155662772
Subaru will make moves though. Subaru Rem isn't one sided like the other relationship.

>>155653317
No screentime.

>>155663318
Hardly toned down actually. The confession and Carmilla scene is still around. Other than that one small scene that was cut, everything else about her is still intact.

>>155658804
There's a AU in which Subaru and Rem decided to run away in ep 18. They got married and had 2 kids and were overall very happy despite feeling regret for giving up. So if these two get together at some point in the MU they won't break up.

>>155659427
what did he mean by this?

>>155663709
Nope Subaru might as well pussy out as he doesn't want to upset Emilia either. So most likely nothing dramatic or significant will happen between Subaru and Rem as far as I'm concerned.

>>155663965
as if he cares about what others think after missing Rem for over a year

>>155664052
He still loves Emilia and even tries to suppress his feelings for Rem for Emilia's sake anon. Thankfully Subaru isn't a heartless bastard like you want him to be.

>>155663965
That's completely disregarding his character. Subaru is someone who will always react on his feelings. Regardless of, whether Rem lost her memories or not, his feelings for her was established already.

>>155664172
oh you're one of those people, well don't be too upset if it works out differently

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Because she has barely any character development, especially when compared to Rem who had an entire arc devoted to fleshing her out and exploring her background. Emilia's uninteresting and generic, which hurts Re:Zero as a whole since she's supposed to be Subaru's primary source of motivation and the main heroine.

>>155664180
>Subaru is someone who will always react on his feelings
That means Subaru must have already told Emilia he loves Rem in the LN. Oh wait!

>>155664338
See how he doesn't care about what Emilia thinks?

>>155664338
>That means Subaru must have already told Emilia he loves Rem in the LN. Oh wait!

Because apparently, it needs to be always directed lmfao. Where they are in Arc 6, is where everything about their situation is already revealed to everyone.

>>155664378
See what? All I see is that Subaru respects Emilia and doesn't want to hurt her by saying he loves Rem in the LN.

>>155664511
see that he doesn't care about how Emilia feel and keeps lying to her

>>155664592
What do you mean? Subaru does love Emilia. How is that a lie when he says he loves her?

CRUSCH
R
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C
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>>155664676
obviously he doesn't care about lying to Emilia if doesn't tell her that he loves Rem. Subaru can't bring himself to lie to Rem but he has no problems lying to Emilia.

>>155664775
This is so dumb anon. Subaru can't be lying to Emilia if he doesn't even bother to bring Rem up when he's talking to Emilia. If he said he didn't love Rem at all to Emilia, then yes that would be a lie. But it didn't happen at all and Subaru basically tries to keep everything regarding to Rem as private as possible, mostly because of feeling guilty and ashamed. If anything, it means Subaru's feelings for Rem are not even strong enough to make himself admit it. So Subaru is lying to not Emilia but to Rem and himself there.

>>155665053
you can try to twist it as much as you want but Subaru is someone who doesn't want to lie to the people he loves even of the truth hurts

>However, Rem was not like that. Rem, even now, the same as always, continued to supported him. Even now, out of all the people in the world, she remained to be the person to bring him the most warmth through her continuous, unwavering acceptance and understanding. To continue to lie to this girl was a whole different matter than lying to Crusch and the others when it came to the effects it had to his heart, as in this case the pain continued to eat it up.

>>155663318
>Regulus
Well played, anon.

>>155665240
pathetic scum who shit himself when dying, a perfect example

>>155665164
> doesn't want to lie to the people he loves even of the truth hurts
Yeah, right.
>Subaru: No. Under no circumstances would that…..

>>155665335
anon, he lied to Emilia countless times, this as well is him lying to her, this time the lie was so obvious that he coulnd't even finish his sentence

Gentlemen, why do we love Emilia?

>>155663965
Subaru will se Rem hurting

>>155664676
>>155665053
Lie by omission is a thing

>>155665420
>anon, he lied to Emilia countless times, this as well is him lying to her

>>155665420
>Subaru is someone who doesn't want to lie to the people he loves even of the truth hurts

I feel confused here. Which one of you should I be listening to? In case you fags are suggesting that Subaru doesn't care about Emilia, that is totally wrong considering his actions and commitment to protecting Emilia so far.

>>155665523
Everything will be fine. Its not like Subaru has never hurt Rem before.

>>155665423
We don't

>>155665689
he doesn't care about Emilia's feelings otherwise he would tell her the truth. What is so difficult to understand? If you believe that his feelings for her are 100% genuine then you can't be helped

>>155665830
Its more like, he cares about Emilia and other people's feelings and doesn't want to bother them with his feelings for Rem so he never says it to anyone. Not everyone needs to hear that truth especially when even Subaru himself is denying its existence.

Emilia is a patrician's choice so of course that otaku bait Rem is more popular.

>>155665953
Subaru doesn't deny it. He never did. Also, Emilia is someone who has the right to know about Subaru's feelings for Rem unlike the others.

>>155653317
It was insanely popular, which is more than it deserved.

>>155666062
>He never did
>Pussied out and couldn't bring up Rem when talking to Emilia.
>Tried to make himself think he didn't love Rem more than Emilia in arc 6.

>unlike the others.
Anon Subaru doesn't even tell it to Ram. Why do you think he could tell it to Emilia? Not everyone needs to learn about his bullshit, especially when it still sounds vague as fuck.

>>155653597
Shitmilia is literally the definition of otaku bait

>>155666390
He didn't pussy out. He got interrupted. Also stop changing your points to whatever fits. You said he tried to deny that he loves Rem, which was never the case but now you're like 'he doesn't love her more than Emilia' I mean do you even read the shit you write? Why would he tell Ram about his feelings for Rem immedietly? Ram doesn't know Rem, she first must comprehend that Rem is her twin sister before he can bring up tha next thing.

>>155653317

Because it gradually became apparent that Subaru wasn't so much in love with her, as he felt obligated to be in love with her. If he's the 'protagonist' then she's the 'meet cute' character that the plot in his head demands be the main heroine.

He's gradually beginning to pull away from that stance though. The fact that she's got the emotional development of like, an 11 year old, was certainly a clincher.

Rem totally broadsided him as well. Subaru saved her as a matter of course, no real strings attached aside from inflating his own ego, ignorant of the broader impact his actions would have, since he didn't know what happened to her in the past.

Emilia might very well be best girl, but Rem gained a huge lead through her actions, and then ended up in a situation where she can never STOP being best girl- if Subaru ditched her NOW he'd be a total scumbag, and even entertaining the thought that he might love her less is taboo.

Basically, until Rem wakes up Emilia will always be in limbo. Shit can't start moving forward until that issue is resolved.

>>155666967
>no real strings attached aside from inflating his own ego
I'm pretty sure he saved her because he came to care about her like anyone lese in the mansion and acknowledged she was a good person that didn't deserve to die and Ram suffer for it

>>155666599
>He didn't pussy out. He got interrupted.
Care to elaborate? And did he ever try to tell that to Emilia again during one year timeskip? Obviously not because he is ashamed of his love for Rem and he doesn't want to say it to anyone.

>I mean do you even read the shit you write?
>nou
Like seriously, did you fail to understand my point or something? Subaru's been a pussy the whole time and he's been trying to hold back his feelings for Rem. But his feelings beg to differ, hence Subaru couldn't finish his sentence in that one scene in arc 6. So my point is that him being a pussy will lead him to nowhere in his relationship with Rem regardless of his feelings for her.

>Why would he tell Ram about his feelings for Rem immedietly? Ram doesn't know Rem,
So, shouldn't it be the same with Subaru not telling everything about Rem to Emilia? Because it wouldn't be a good idea to tell Emilia something about a girl who Emilia doesn't even know? Does it mean Subaru is not lying to Emilia right?

>>155667231
>Care to elaborate?
In the WN he said "I also love Rem and I want to marry both of you" and Emilia responded "Who's Rem?"

In the LN he was saying something like "I have to tell you something about me and Rem..." and she immediately said "Who's Rem?". After that is obviously all despair and the situation made him desist tu press the point further.

>And did he ever try to tell that to Emilia again during one year timeskip?
The LN isn't at that point still so it's impossible to tell how it will be changed.

>>155667231
You're mixing up stuff. In the WN he told Emilia about Rem immedietly. In the LN he got interrupted and just a few days passed since then. There was no time skip yet however the Carmilla scene happened in which Subaru states that he loves Rem. So no denial here.


Subaru couldn't deny Emilia's statement that he would be completely devoted to Rem and stop paying attention to Emilia once Rem wakes up. If all, this shows that he actually loves Rem more than Emilia but still didn't realize it.

The thing with Emilia is completely different. Ram and Rem are family. They are twins with the same looks. Subaru tries to have a romantic relationship with Emillia so telling her about his feelings for Rem as soon as possible should be important cause relationships are build on trust and truths and not lies.

>>155667424
Yeah just like I know, Subaru totally pussies out in the LN and can't even say "I love both" to Emilia, so I don't expect him to admit his love for Rem in front of Emilia anytime soon.

>>155667586
>however the Carmilla scene happened
Did Subaru want it to happen on its own? And you seem to be misunderstanding the context of "deny" in my posts pretty badly anon.

>Ram and Rem are family. They are twins with the same looks.
So? Rem is Ram's sister after all, so Subaru should at least say something about his feelings for her sister to her. But he doesn't, because he doesn't want anyone to know about it, including Emilia here. Subaru is a pussy so he doesn't want to say anything about Rem to everyone, not that he doesn't love Emilia.

>>155667992
He said he loves Rem when no one asked him. Why am I even wasting my time with you, you obviously have no idea about the source material.

>but he doesn't
he doesn't have to, especially because Ram still doesn't see Rem as her sister

>>155668190
>He said he loves Rem when no one asked him
That's bull.

>Ram still doesn't see Rem as her sister
Dude, she almost dies shielding Subaru from the centaur's attack and you say she doesn't see Rem as her little sister?
>“Don’t you dare die, Barusu! Rem would cry!”

>>155665423
I do.
I love Emilia.

>>155653317
Her garters are on the sides instead of the front.

>>155668363
>that's bull
Read chapter 74.

That quote is from arc 6 and the WN. At this point Ram sees Rem as her sister and knows that Subaru loves her. It's also after the year time skip. In the LN not even 5 days passed since Rem got in coma. Ram still doesn't see Rem as her sister.

>>155668363
I'm pretty sure that part about Ram is well after where the LN is

>>155668500
>Read chapter 74.
Still don't see the part where Subaru says he loves Rem without being triggered by something first. Seriously, Subaru x Rem has been very one-sided just like Subaru x Emilia, as in Rem (in S x R) and Subaru (in S x E) are the only one taking the lead in their relationships while the other partners are very passive and can't do shit on their own.

>>155668524
Okay so now you fags act like WN is not source material?

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>>155668767
In the WN Subaru tells to Emilia he loves Rem so it's not an issue there

It's the LN that has Subaru more reluctant to tell so to Emilia but then we don't have yet those parts you mention in the LN for consistency purposes

>>155668767
Subaru just confessed to Rem and then she got in a coma. And even then, he tried to kiss her after his confession. He even killed himself on spot when he found Rem in coma and he visits her every night and talks to her for hours. You can't say it's one sided just because he wants to keep his feelings for her private. Emilia and Subaru on the other hand have every chance they can get but they don't use it. One kiss happened and then nothing. Emilia never showed interest in a romantic relationship.

>>155668977
Subaru can't really tell anyone about Rem because he first has to clear the loop. He could tell it Emilia then she'd die and he'd have to tell her again in the next try.

>>155653317
waifu

>>155669031
Did you not read my post or something? When I said "one-sided," I meant Subaru will never say he loves Rem without being triggered or forced to do so. He also feels guilty and ashamed of his feelings for Rem too so there's that.

>Subaru just confessed to Rem
He only said it after being pranked and getting faked out by Rem anon. Otherwise, he would have never said it.

>>155669408
He's ashamed for being a two timer, not his feelings for Rem. He always is forced or triggered before he says he loves someone. Even with Emilia or does he randomly say that he loves her? There is always a reason. Also, Subaru confessed to Rem under the tree as well and nobody pushed him and he wasn't triggered so.

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>>155669715
>Even with Emilia or does he randomly say that he loves her?
Yes he did, two or three times in pic related scene if I remember it right.

>he wasn't triggered so.
You sure? You don't remember Rem saying tons of things to move Subaru's feelings before he vaguely said he had some feelings for Rem at all?

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>>155653317
She was cute and sexy only on a purely visual level.

>>155670123
pretty sure Emilia asked him why he was doing this. So there was a reason.

If you consider this a trigger then everything is a trigger. He didn't have to tell her but he still did. Rem didn't ask him or anything. Also, if you think that something like this makes it one sided then Wilhelm Theresia was also one sided, yes?

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>>155670376
One more pic because you keep denying it. Also, Emilia asking Subaru one single question is not the same as Rem convincing Subaru to reciprocate to her feelings. Not sure how you can think they are equivalent really.

>Wilhelm Theresia was also one sided
Care to explain?

>>155653317
Because the whole season focused more on Rem's characterization and Emilia always felt more like a backround character.

She becomes way more relevant in the future though while Rem gets completely scrapped.

She wasn't even in the anime most of second half.

>>155653317
It's hard to be more popular when you're already the goal of the entire show.

>>155670741
Ehm, when Emilia asked Subaru if he liked Rem he had no problems telling her that he loves her. Just one simple question so.

>Wilhelm Theresia
You sure you watched the show? Wilhelm never said he loved his wife but he showed it through his actions. Very similar to how Subaru acts with Rem.

>>155670784
Yep, but she doesn't become more popular. Still below 10% in arc 6 while Rem is at 40% despite being inactive for 3 long arcs.

>>155670998
And funnily enough, it's the opposite of what Subaru does up until Arc 4. All talk, but no action

>>155670998
>Ehm, when Emilia asked Subaru if he liked Rem he had no problems telling her that he loves her.
That scene doesn't happen in the LN and also in the eventual season 2 of the anime, so please stop bringing that up.

>Wilhelm never said he loved his wife but he showed it through his actions.
Oh does Wilhelm also hold back his love for his wife and think it shouldn't be stronger than it really is?

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>>155653317
This is easy; pic related is the reason why.

inb4 too little screen time

>>155671194
your point was that it was one sided because Subaru didn't say he loved Rem unless asked or triggered. The same was with Wilhelm and his wife, I don't see how Subaru is holding back his love for Rem. He does everything he can even if he doesn't admit everything.

Also you can say that Subaru doesn't tell anyone that he loves Rem after arc 4 ends and it still didn't happen. Telling it anyone right now doesn't make much sense since he still didn't get to the next savepoint.

>>155653317
Irrelevant, she is still going to win. rem twitterfags on suicide watch.

>>155671181
You mean Subaru Emilia? Even after arc 4 it's only words but no actions

>>155653317

Why should she popular? Because of her design? She doesn't do shit in the 24 episodes of the season.

>>155671194
>That scene doesn't happen in the LN
>>155671194
>2) The stuff with Emilia/Otto/Subaru in the carriage ride back to the mansion is basically the same. Also, there is a small hint about Emilia’s past added (after Subaru reaffirms that Rem is “as important (precious/dear/valuable) to him as Emilia”).
>[Emilia: …You saying that is sooo selfish. Are you aware of that?]
>[Subaru: Of course I am. Honestly, I feel so (terrible/ashamed) that I could die. But I’m serious, 100% serious]
>*removed some inner monologue*
>[Subaru: …Emilia-tan?]
>[Emilia: I think Subaru and I are very similar people, even in that we are moving for purely selfish reasons…Because even I am conscious that my reason for participating in the Royal Selection is selfish.]
>[Subaru: You wishing for a peaceful world without discrimination…is a selfish reason?]
>*Subaru confused and Emilia shakes her head*
>[Emilia: That’s not it. In the beginning, I had a more personal…]
>[Subaru: …]
>[Emilia: …I’m sorry. I can’t express it in words clearly. Not that I’m trying to hide it from you, >Subaru. But I just don’t know what to say]
>Also, after that, Emilia asks Subaru to tell her about Rem (I think it’s a continuation of their talk added to the end of Volume 9), so Subaru starts telling her about their everyday lives (starting from when he first met Rem/Ram), which continues until they reach the mansion.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iCIAkimv9IqGFxTJ-GN9ShoZa3YdOkqiu4nyX1WVcHQ/edit#

>>155671474
>The same was with Wilhelm and his wife
Still a silly analogy because Wilhelm did want to tell Thearesia everything but kinda couldn't finish it because of him being a tsundere while Subaru actively tried to avoid the subject and act like he and Rem shouldn't have loved each other at all, except when Rem poured her heart out and convinced Subaru to love her, but whatever.

>>155653317
Half breed mongrel commie.

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>>155655063
I like Rem but I can't say you're wrong.

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>>155671230
I highly doubt that Elsa is as popular as Emilia.

Elsa a best

>>155671801
>Wilhelm tsundere
yeah sure, a tsundere for 50 years

>tried to avoid
he didn't try to avoid it, stop making up stuff, he told Emilia in the WN and the LN (not as clearly as in the WN) but Emilia got it

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Seems pretty popular to me.

>>155653317
she wasn't in like half the show and subaru got way more time with rem

>>155672358
>wishful fanart
her pet and the unlikable MC are more popular than her

>>155672418
not really 'way more time', just more memorable time.

>>155672346
>Emilia got it
So now Remfags say Emilia is smart enough to understand love? Or is it that Subaru's love for Rem is just as platonic as Emilia put it?

>>155653317
1. she's emotionally undeveloped
2. she's not explored very much
3. subaru's "love" for her is completely inexplicable
4. emilia's motivations and shit aren't even explained in the entire season

Basically, until we get another season, she can't be popular. All her develop happens in Arc4+
The author was too successful with Rem. He should've recognized that and moved the story in that direction instead

>>155672574
Anon, Emilia was the one who pointed out that Subaru loves Rem. So are you saying that LN Emilia is much dumber than WN Emilia?

>>155672574
She doesn't understand love but can see that Subaru's intentions with Rem are the same he has with her

>>155672672
>>155672821
>So are you saying that LN Emilia is much dumber than WN Emilia?
Okay she might not dumber but I wouldn't say Emilia did get it at all since Subaru already minced his words and didn't express his true feelings for Rem cause he was busy holding them back.

>obsesses over the elf that helped him once in a timeline that was reset, and has no bonding moments in the timeline that remained
>not the grade A oni pussy that loves him enough to die several times for him, and wants nothing more than to have her cunt slobber all over his meat truncheon

Emilia a shit

>>155672821
Nowhere stated so your assumption is worthless without back up.

>>155663191
>pandering to purityfags
>no one is a purityfag.
>>>/myspace/
Seriously, do you not realize where you are?

>>155653317
Because people have shit taste.

This will be corrected during her arc.

>>155673181
didn't happen with the LN/WN readers, won't happen with the anime watchers

>>155673277
You're underestimating the bandwagoners anon.

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>>155653317
Designated love interest with no screen time or development somehow wins while girl who tries hardest and has the most interaction gets nothing.

>>155673091
Most /a/nons are okay about a girl as long as she is a virgin

>>155653317
Mayonaka Matome is better desu

>>155673759
Not much better.

>>155673090
The first 31 chapters of qrc 4 is Subaru basically hitting people over the head he likes Rem as his pain and love for her was so obvious and apparent that everyone in the mansion got the memo. Even with Freddie realizing what is happening and she just met Subaru. Emilia may be dumb but she isnt that dumb to be unable to spot the obvious.

>>155658188
Secondhand hate is one hell of a drug huh?

>>155658638
Problem is she wasnt bearing it well. Then there is also the clown kekaiku going on.

>>155653317
because she is not fanatical like a demon

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>convinced my 23-year-old younger brother to watch Re:Zero with me over the weekend
>He loved it
>Said Rem was his waifu and was upset she disappeared after the White Whale
Even non-weebs can see she's best girl.

>>155673430
Carmilla is too big of a roadblock

>>155653317
She's a slut, its in her genes. Her whore mother genes, not her slutty knife-ear genes

>>155653317
There are a million other shows with main girls exactly like this, especially in isekai

>>155658558
>>155658594
Thank you

>>155676147
Subaru and Emilia's second kiss scene will win them over anyway.

>>155676700
With the context behind it? It doubt it. I dont think people are that stupid too soley just focus on one scene than the plot as a whole. The kekaiku will sour the situation much like every other reader experienced.

>>155676881
They just need to tone down Subaru's keikaku behavior. But there's another thing I noticed that might relate to Emilia's lack of popularity.

Has Emilia ever been injured for the sake of another? Has she ever bled without dying? Have her clothes ever even gotten just a little dirty without her dying? Has she ever so much as stubbed her toe in the final timeline?

>>155677068
I think she was slapped by Regulus once or something.

>>155653317
I've never watched this but she's really cute.

>>155653317
Hardly does anything for the whole show and while mc fell for her at first sight the audience hasn't had reason to feel that endeared, especially when they build a stronger relationship with rem and mc over the course of the show.

>>155671119
>Still below 10% in arc 6 while Rem is at 40% despite being inactive for 3 long arcs.
Wow.

>>155677229
You think? You're giving me an example that lame, and you're not even certain?

The one moment I can recall is when Pandora redirected Fortuna's fist at Emilia, before erasing the punch shortly afterward. Reinhard has probably suffered far more physical pain than her, and he's untouchable unless he allows it.

That's the thing. Emilia doesn't come across as a proper comrade-in-arms like the other characters. It's not that she's useless. When her power is properly directed, she's practically top tier. That's not a point in her favor. Her struggles become significantly less visceral and real than those of the other characters. She's literally just held back by her feelings.

We see most other characters struggle, get injured, and get beat down. We see them do this for the sake of one another, and they survive with scars or other lasting conditions. If anything seriously bad happens to Emilia, she just dies or completely loses her mind.

She's an elf.
Nobody with a modicum of taste goes for Elves.
Elves are shit, lanky pointy eared, tree hugging, welsh sounding, albino bastards they are.

>>155677642
Pretty sure she got kicked super hard by Elsa during the fight at the end of arc 1 anon. She got her ass handled by Elsa too and would have died if Reinhard hadn't appeared in that fight.

>>155677642
Elsa kicked her behind a bar.

>>155677815
Yeah, but that was before she unlocked her true power. Still, I guess she got kicked once. That still counts for my "Has never bled without dying" rule.

>>155677642
>>155677861
Oh, and she got her tits fondled by Reid

>>155677815
>>155677861
still thats no where close to what the other characters do in the anime or the wn.

All the other characters are willing to die for their friends/loved one/beliefs (and proved it by following thorough with said act) while emilia sits around and cries.

>>155678083
Hey. Emilia finally toughens up and confronts serious emotional issues, to get a huge powerup which will help her freeze all of the rabbits so Betty can handle them!

That's the same, right?

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>>155678165
Well its compared to Rem having every bone in her body being broken then she crawls on her shoulders to Subaru to free him and confess her love for him in her dying breaths.

or Her last words before being mind eaten.
>Clash met clash, and in that instant she thought—
I wish when he realizes I am gone, it could cause a small ripple in his heart.
>—This alone, was what Rem wished for in her final moment.

>>155678449
Well, you kind of got my point.

To me, it's not about Emilia being useful or not, even if she spends a large amount of time struggling with her feelings. Struggling with feelings can be a good thing. To me, it's sort of how it all comes together with Emilia and how its portrayed. It's missing something to make it feel real-ish. I feel no connection to her.

When people complain about her being useless or doesn't have enough screentime, I get a little perplexed. Even if she was useful, more supportive, and was always on the screen, I wouldn't like her.

No matter how powerful she gets, she's always going to be written in a way so she needs to rely on Subaru. Meaning her actual ability as a leader must always remain subpar, because that's all Subaru is actually good for. Meaning she'll always be the worst candidate.

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>>155670784
I wouldn't say scrapped, as she has been the main driving force for many things and characters despite being inactive for 3 arcs with arc 6 being Rem as one of the main focuses for said arc and development. I beleive we got erased to emhasize many aspects of other characters as well as give them a chance to develop too as Rem took too much of the spotlight and resolving plotpoints that require Rem not to be around.

>>155666478
So as Rem

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>>155665423
Because she's maji tenshi.

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>>155679422
That's debatable.

>>155679547
She insults him, but I doubt anyone would mind getting sweetly insulted like that.

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>>155653368
>Rem

who?

>>155676142
>a NORMALFAG has shit taste
color me surprised

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>>155653317
There's a few reason for me. First and foremost, not enough meaningful screen time. The only scenes I really remember are the lap pillow, the fight she had with Toyota, and the times she died.

The second reason is that her relationship with Subaru feels so weird. Subaru doesn't turn into a raging autist nearly as much when something doesn't concern Emilia. He's actually a pretty cool guy at times. It makes you realize that something doesn't seem right with their relationship. Emilia's nice and all, but I don't get what about her causes such drastic reactions in him.

Third shit like pic related break my heart so much that I can't help but favor Suzuki's love for Rem.

>>155679908
She gets the village kids she taught and Ram to do the blunt insulting for her.

>>155679981
I'm ashamed that I laughed at this

>>155679174
Does Rem take up too much spotlight? I mean, I guess she had a lot of perspective points when she was around, hung out and discussed things with Subaru, and generally behaved more like a protagonist than Emilia.

So far, Emilia comes across as more just part of the puzzle. An obstacle that needs to be turned around to solve a problem. Like Rem was in Arc 2. I guess we'll see how it goes in the last Chapters of Arc 4 and in Arc 5.
>>155680281
Shame the LN deleted that scene.
>>155680283
Ram does it on her own. However, the kids definitely used similar language to Rem.

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How do I look, anon?

>>155680404
Last I heard it got replaced with a chapter of Subaru talking to/about Rem like no tomorrow for compensation.

>>155680610
It didn't. I checked. No new chapter to replace it. Sorry.

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>>155680554
Like a used up slut. Now open up your asshole you dumb elf whore, I need to practice before I go home to satisfy my Rem-rin.

>>155680733
Echidna please.

>>155680710
Well shit

>>155680733
How do you get Internet in that tomb Echidna?

>>155680815
Yep. Any new Rem content to replace the cut content will have to happen after the Carmilla scene. It's a shame, because those were all nice scenes and his building anger tied in nicely with his unlocking Sloth. Since it's usually powered by his dark stagnant emotion.

>>155653317
Faggy contrarians like with anything remotely popular

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Do you like evil manipulating Witches?

>>155681662
>Pandora is shorter than Typhon and Daphene

Midget

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>>155681752
She's shorter than Daphne, Typhon is still smaller.

>>155681898
Why is this boy wearing a dress?

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>>155681927
Are you a baddie anon?

>>155653317
Because despite being an MC, she doesn't do anything.

>>155653317
>stupidly bland character
>I love her because muh smile
>obviously has some dark/bad side
>is the love interest for no real reason

>>155682041
Of course not son.

>>155682192
Hey man, she can throw snowballs. I know Rem can also throw snowballs, but still.

>>155682892
Rem doesn't have as much mana, and doesn't have the fire temperature magic to be as good at freezing stuff.

Technically, Rem should probably be their healer.

>>155683294
>Rem should probably be their healer.
Her superhuman strength and agility would be wasted though.

>>155684070
Paladin

>>155684188
She's even got Detect Evil going on.
>>155684070
I'm just saying she's got the most natural talent for healing magic on Emilia's team, but never had a proper tutor. Subaru's scared of putting her in danger anyways.

>>155658051
That's actually kind of typical in hyper-conservative cultures that don't have sex ed.

>>155653317
Because she actually a murderous manipulative slut witch.

>>155653317
Rem is cuter.

Because she's a whore.

>>155680815
It's actually kind of funny. Rem needs to be shafted for Emilia, and Subaru's feelings for her, to stand out and not be overshadowed.

>>155653317
I dont like her either, but as a character she represents the idea of doom and tragedy, which Subaru lusts after given that he likely wanted to die in real life if he did not outright commit suicide to get into the new world.

Emlia is the tragedy he desires, which is why he does not give up despite him becoming Suffaru. This is also why he was chosen by the witch.

>Inb4 u r rong
Not an argument.

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>>155686777
I thought she was supposed to represent something pure, which is why she remains spotless throughout the series and otherwise simply breaks or dies. Other characters get dirty and scarred, and their clothes get torn. Their minds warp under strain and their thoughts turn darker, but they usually don't completely lose it unless they've literally taken in some corrupting insanity power.

On the other hand, Emilia dies any time she'd be scarred. She doesn't warp under pressure. She breaks. It's why her power is ice and her color scheme is loaded with white, without even a trace of any darker color to it.

She can still get angry and kill, but her motives for that remain righteous unless she's been completely broken.

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>>155681869

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>>155687177
The seemingly perfect knight Reinhardt has a very similar color scheme to his clothes, but his character description puts "at first glance" after describing how perfect his personality is.

We can see he wears black underneath the white and purple exterior.

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>>155684493
>Subaru's scared of putting her in danger anyways.
Ram too. Most likely she won't dare entrust Rem to Subaru again after he fails to protect her sister from being nom'ed.

REM is the plebian choice.
EMILIA is the normal choice.
Real patrician choice is abstinence because anime is not real.

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>>155688426
>emilia
>normal choice
shes a stupid shit slut elf that cannot do anything on her own

>>155688491
Despite being more powerful than half the cast.
>>155688348
I guess that's another thing Rem has in her favor. A family dynamic.

>>155688491
Echinda got out of her tomb again

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>>155688643
I want more Beako and Rem scenes again. I want my mom moments.

>>155688643
>being more powerful than half the cast.
You realize that makes her LITERALLY PAINFULLY AVERAGE right?

Rem is trash tier because of how popular she is

>>155688726
no

>>155688650
I kinda want to see Echinda in High School If. I wonder what she will be. An instructor, or a NEET who spends all her time looking for stuffs on the Internet?

>>155688726
Nope. It's just that there are a lot of blatantly OP characters like Reinhard, and Emilia still has some of her power sealed at the end of Arc 4. She's absurdly powerful.

It's Rem who has the average level of strength.

>>155688753
/a/ the post

>>155688713
>Beako and Rem
>mom
Rem is more like a bully to Beako, hence the force-feeding.

>>155690160
Other than her habitually taking care of her and taking care of supervising Beako plus telling her to clean her room I'd say its pretty much the same thing.

>>155690160
Rem is a bully to everyone, including Rigel. That's how he moms them.

I want to MINDBREAK Emilia!

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>>155690932
Do they have internet in hell, betelgeuse?

>>155691308
Bete wouldn't dare do such a thing. He's her dad.

>>155691308
Comfirmed animeonly fag

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I found Elsa concept art!

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How many people missed the fact that Al lost one of his arms? I honestly didn't notice since the anime didn't make any mention of it, or the angles didn't focus enough on it.

To put it plainly, although she was the female lead, she didn't really live up to that role.

Her design is amazing, and she's a nice person, but she didn't have the impact a main character/heroine should have, neither on her own nor as support for the MC.

Rem pretty much filled that role, but ultimately Emilia got much of the love from Suzuki, mainly because of his silly idea that he has to he has to play the role from some MC in a fantasy story, and that Emilia is his heroine - her being gorgeous adds to it.

Considering the author said he hasn't even written half of the story, hopefully she'll get proper development soon, and she'll earn her place in the story, both as her own character and as support for Mitsubishi.

>>155684188
>>155684493
There are a couple of times where she broke the code however

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>>155670241
Stop.

>>155653317
Disgusting knife ears are only orc baby producers. That's what they all secretly aspire to be, and will allow themselves to be kidnapped or run away to be mind broken.

Waste no time on such sad sorry creatures.

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>>155695811
Endgame
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>>155676142
This confirms it, literally all the filthy secondaries here are MALfag Remniggers. Makes sense.

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Rem's personality, Megumin's body with Ram's chest, Emilia's hair length/style, black hair and a paler skin tone with dark eyes is the perfect woman.

Nothing you can say will change my mind, however, if you disagree, I believe you will find this image a soothing alternative to arguing the details.

>>155655063
>rem is a completely empty shell (in the anime atleast)
Also empty shell in the novel too

>>155655063
This is actually true, you can tell by the amount of replies this post has by permavirgins that have no idea what conversation with a girl looks like.

>>155692037
Oh my fucking god look at those jugs

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>>155696208

>>155694030
A character doesn't need a long time to earn their place in a story. They should have it in the beginning, or shortly after their introduction, with that place changing or expanding as they develop. How long did it take Otto to earn his place? Or Julius? It didn't take very long for either of them.

Emilia does provide support, but I personally don't like her better for it. She gets more focus and does more later, but none of that changes anything for me. I just find Emilia to be utterly forgettable. I remember she exists because she's in a series with much more memorable characters. She's one of the few characters I become less and less interested in the more I learn about her. It was better when I could fill in the gaps.

>>155694030
Shes still not good even with development. In fact its pretty weird how she got even worse then her child self.

I'd say that a big issue with her is that beside few exceptions she just sits there while the other characters solve the plot and then Subaru reiterates how amazing she is

At least this is somewhat acknowledged when Echidna disses Emilia, but after that she just improves slightly. She gets to fight a couple of times but for the rest she has the same impact to the course of events of a piece of furniture

>>155653317
Kinda boring. I like Emilia but desu I'd rather fug Rem.

>>155657997
What do her ears feel like?

>>155684590
They have sex ed.

>>155663843
Doesn't this confirm that Tappei won't be doing Subaru/Rem romance in the main storyline?

Author wanted to appease the Remfags and make quick cash so he made the spinoff.

>>155681898
Is it morally reprehensible to put her whole foot in my mouth?

>>155698568
skin and cartilage.

>>155653317
>tfw all the doujins are literally Rem with a rare side Ram or Emilia shoehorned in

>>155653317
She had the nerve to react realistically and not fall in love with the self-insert spazz NEET MC, and actually be put off by his autistic behavior.
Of course otaku would be outraged at such an offense and gravitate to the submissive maid who loves them for no reason.

>>155698727
This happened long before Re:Zero went commercial so it's not the case

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>>155698568
Soft but gradually becoming stiffer the further along her ears you go, until you reach the point of her ears. Slightly warm to the touch, getting warmer with every second as she starts blushing furiously while reacting to your touch but not pushing you away.

>>155653317
She's not very interesting. She's the MC's dream girl and the story never did much for her beyond that.
>>155698791
>She had the nerve to react realistically and not fall in love with the self-insert spazz NEET MC
Except she does fall for him. She's not a strong, smart, independent womyn, but a naive, sheltered girl with low self-esteem who couldn't understand why this guy acts so crazy around her until he finally says it.

There's nothing about that otaku would hate because nothing about it is atypical, but it's fun to take a shit on what you have no idea about.

>>155698810
How does this contradict anything I said?

>>155653317
Her relationship with Subaru was stagnated because no girl can win until the very end of the series.

>>155699823
he can't have done so to make cash as all of that happened when it was an avocational free web novel published on a website

>>155699942
Ahaha silly boy. You can make revenue from other places.

>>155700028
Re:Zero merchandise also happened at least 3 years after that

>>155700112
Okay, so we have a case of planning ahead in the future. How does this contradict with anything I said about Rem?

>>155698727
it's published in the WN, which you can read for free and it's also a bad end since every other character is dead

>>155700496
Yes, so let me ask you again. How does this contradict with what I said about writing this short spinoff about one pairing so you don't do it with the main storyline?

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>>155700231
So that he wrote a side story because he liked to do so is less likely than doing so just to appease a handful of non-paying readers counting to make a publisher deal years in the future

>>155700541
why would it be like this? you don't write an ending for a love interest at the beginning of the story

>>155700549
he doesn't get anything besides more people who ship subarem from publishing the If chapters

>>155653317
I now understand wht that Maidragon character looked familiar.

>>155696184
>memegumin
Never fails that you fags continue to shit up this board with your pleb taste every chance you get

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>>155700549
>>155700582
>>155700677
There will be no Rem and Subaru pairing in the main story. The author decided to make a spinoff to appease people. You know this is true. There's no reason to make a side story that is exactly what the main story will end up as.

>>155700825
it's not how it would be in the main story, he started writing the If right after Rem fell in coma so it's likely meant as compensation for her lack of screentime in the main story

>>155700714
Megumin and Emilia have the same VA you retarded mongoloid.

>>155700990
If he wanted to compensate for lack of screentime, then he would... just wake Rem up? What is it with you and denial?

>>155653317
She is one of those dull main characters which are basically a blank space to fill with later plot points and your own expectations at best.

>>155701177
arc 4 alone is over 120 chapters but only one week in story, put Rem in coma and wake her up one week later?

>>155701177
He probably wanted Rem to fall in a coma because of the effect it has on Subaru

https://mega.nz/#!RMVUkaTA!lP9kgZH1syBoDy-YttqOSuyGAfPuzhk8n2iMFcE6unE

>>155701534
So Rem is more useful to the story as a vegetable than alive? Kek.

>>155653929
Why did you greentext?

>>155701619
Based

>>155700990
But he's not? He just wrote Rems backstory.

i liked her more than rem but all the girls were shit other than the milf

>>155701833
That's still side material about Rem while Rem is out of commission in the story so it can fit under "compensation"

>>155653317
Too generic.

>>155701928
Meant for >>155701824

>>155701619
Just... just make a new thread.

>>155701619
Whats that?

im scared to open it

>>155702038
Get out filthy secondary. Nothing for you to see here.

>>155701659
More like it was necessary so that certain things would happen

>>155702610
Yeah, it was necessary so Tappei could bait Remfags to stay with the series.

>>155702714
Why would he care?
Remember that money has been proved to not be the reason

>>155702742
He loves Remfags tears.

>>155702806
So he's making a nonsensical plot thread to ultimately spite his audience?
He knows what he's doing AND also is a shit writer?

>>155701619
Thanks

>>155702038
New translated WN chapter