Every man has a moment in his life when he asks himseld, "who

>>155134415
Most certainly not meme shit Kissshot.

You started the thread with her.

Bat is best girl.

Certainly not Shitshot

and deep in their heart the words that resonate are "George Foreman"

>>155134415
I think the George Foreman is a really great grill.

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>>155134415
Why would I ask a question I already know the answer to?

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I like black hanekawa.

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>>155134459
>>155137067
>>155137097
delete these

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Nisio Isin is best girl.

>>155137428
It's fine. That means she's loved to the point where she's the first character who comes into mind when you discuss best girls even for people who don't like her.

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>>155134415
> "who is... best grill?"
Do you really need to ask?

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>>155134415
Clearly it's the Broil King® Imperial™ XLS which features two totally independent ovens with a total of 1000 sq. in. of cooking space and includes 6 stainless steel Dual-Tube™ burners, professional cast stainless steel cooking grids, stainless steel Flav-R-Wave™ cooking system, built-in oven and control knob lights, two electronic igniters. Adding on to that stainless steel side shelves with right side storage drawer and an enclosed cabinet base with two utility drawers and two cabinet doors there is just no way any other grill can compete. Eat your heart out shitty bat.

>>155139356
Kiss-Shot can create fully edible food, cooked to perfection, out of nothing in less than a second.

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>>155134415
I could finally derive the answer two years ago.

>>155134415
Don't worry, you have good taste.

>>155139356
>propane

die

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Hanekawa is perfection, that's the actual canon even. No point in even thinking about other girls really.

>>155139944
>catfags making shit up again
Why do you even post?

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>who is best girl

???

>>155134415
certainly not either one of the Kizusluts.

>>155134415
It's always gonna be Hanekawa

>>155139960
t. salty

>>155141341
>I'll lie and then say that people are mad when I get called out.

>CTRL+F Crab
>0 results

You all have shit taste

>>155141695
>ctrl+f "shit taste"
>1 result
OH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT

>>155141695
We've learned too much about her and it's all too 3DPD.

>>155142252
>it's all too 3DPD
It was typical J-Drama soap opera-tier shit, honestly. Right down to the cause of problems being a lack of proper communication between the two and everything. If it were 3DPD she'd marry him and then take the house in a divorce or something.

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>She spent an entire season sulking
>With a helmet on, to stop Ragi from making up with her through headpats
Why do people not like her

snail > monkey > bat

>>155134415
Define what makes 'the best girl'

doll > bat > cate > monkey > snail > snek >

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>>155134459
>>155137097

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Emperor of Mankind>Sanguinius>Bat>P O W E R G A P>Snail>Monkey>Bee>Crab>Birb>Math>Kaiki>Gaen>Kagenui>Doll>cat

The only correct order

>>155142510
Having her godlike powers stolen is a valid reason to be angry. Then she gets over it on her own and makes up with Araragi in a manner that was a cute combination of mature and childish.

>>155141378

It's not really a lie, but it is canon that people call her inhuman because of being so good she doesn't realize it. But not in the Medaka way of flaunting it, she is also extremely humble, and does try to meet people face to face, while not asserting her talent, which is why people get mad at her.

It's essentially something she can't ever win because people have some innate self-conscious nature, and while she does try to nurture people, that it itself worsens things because it makes people think they are worthless. After all, she was proclaimed an international criminal for doing things most would be praised and lauded for, like stopping blood wars and dismantling dangerous minefields by hand.

So she can't win, and won't ever win because Nisio has a boner for her and Sodachi suffering in their flaws. Hanekawa's is mothering people too much and not taking pride in herself. After all, she only wants to be a normal person.

Shinobu > Hachikuji > Tsukihi > the rest > cold sisters > Nadeko > Gaen

Though, with her recent spree of actually working hard and not being a shit, maybe snake needs to move up a rank.

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>>155134415
Everyone knows that best girl is Shinobu

>>155144174

Hanekawa is literally making world peace a reality and gaining a gang of compatriots, with a werewolf girl wet for her, I'd say she has earned a couple places up.

She even has doppleganger bodyguards for yuri group sessions. That's fucking awesome.

>>155134415
As far as being with Araragi is concerned, it's Monkey. Typical "gets along too well with the MC to actually be the love interest, because that'd be too easy/boring" character.

Personally I like Sodachi a lot though. Almost feels like she doesn't belong in this series, honestly.

>>155144376
Going full retard and attempting what is effectively world conquest after being portrayed as intelligent makes me want to drop her further. Other characters opinions of Hanekawa don't influence my own. Theoretical lesbian fanservice is really fucking grasping at straws.

>>155144376
World peace, huh?

>>155144385
>As far as being with Araragi is concerned, it's Monkey. Typical "gets along too well with the MC to actually be the love interest, because that'd be too easy/boring" character.

It's rather the opposite. It's like how you have a friend who you'd give anything for, but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.

Hanekawa is bad because of the mothering she does and the idolatry he feels, very bad for continuing a relationship, however, if they get over that part it's viable. But that would be a hard road. Especially because she is so centered on the peopke around her and not herself, a good partner would make her see that and Koyomi can't because he is awed by her.

Shinobu has a menagerie of problems foreshadowed since the start of the series with the codependent nature of their relationship. You should promote the growth of your partner and yourself. Shinobu is almost a personification about not caring about the future and maintaining the status quo. Then there is Deathtopia and still not doing anything about her and his vampirism but being steeped in the supernatural. Big neon warning signs.

Nisio tries to sidestep a lot of the pitfalls he has with Senjougahara, mainly to keep the narrative of them being a couple going, so the "breakups" are offscreen, and we only see a makeup from cliché lines being thrown about. Yet the fundamental issue of them not being honest or forthright with each other continues. A counselor would say they are in for a rocky marriage if this continues, but Nisio needs it to work.

>>155144617
>but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.
Same goes for any relationship at that stage regardless of whether you have great chemistry with them beforehand or not, what's your point? With Monkey it goes beyond that anyway because the whole reason why she & Araragi get along so well is because they're extremely similar to each other. Unless you rigidly adhere to the whole opposites attract meme there's no particular reason why it wouldn't hypothetically work out.

>>155142164
You sir, made me laugh

>>155144617
>muh vampirism hasn't been permafixed
>why hasn't she fixed external problems she doesn't know about?
Fuck off. You're the only one who thinks it's an issue.

>>155144470

Eh, its not conquest, conquest would mean she aggressively induces violence or violent methods to get the desired affect, but she only uses diplomatic methods.

If she did use violent means, Araragi would bring her in immediately and Sodachi would report her. Meaning this criminal status is likely political BS.

>>155144617
>Shinobu has a menagerie of problems foreshadowed since the start of the series with the codependent nature of their relationship. You should promote the growth of your partner and yourself. Shinobu is almost a personification about not caring about the future and maintaining the status quo. Then there is Deathtopia and still not doing anything about her and his vampirism but being steeped in the supernatural. Big neon warning signs.
Shinobu is doing her best in her relationship with Araragi. I like that

>>155144174
The only thing the sisters have going for them is being too hot for their own good and having nice OPs, lets be real here. Nadeko's better by virtue of actually having a character, even if you dislike said character.

>>155144854
Diplomatic conquest is still conquest. It's just as completely and utterly moronic to attempt as violent world conquest.

>>155144808
And they both decline any option that would clear these problems, since it results in them breaking their bond and having to separate.

>>155144854
>Araragi would bring her in immediately
Could he even do that? What kind of cop is he supposed to be even, I know the work he does for Gaen is a side-job.

Also I thought Sodachi worked in welfare or some shit.

>>155144921
I'm not doing this shit again. Shut the fuck up.

>>155134415
>redditgatari
>youtube screenshot
>ellipses
Really makes you think.

>>155144808

The only reason it isn't an issue is because other people fix things for them, and he "needed" the regen in certain situations that after the fact could have been solved in other ways.

Gaen got Yumewatari and helped Araragi dodge a huge bullet HE caused because he was stupid. Hanekawa helped him from killing himself (again) with Ougi.

And now Deathtopia is coming. I don't say I didn't like the pairing of the two, but you'd be blind to say there aren't inherent flaws.

>>155145149
Ougi wasn't trying to kill Araragi.

>>155144899
Tsukihi has her own, very distinct, character. The core concept is simple: someone who does whatever they feel like at any given moment, but she dials it back and is very good at knowing just how much she can get away with. She's also caring and has a sort-of lopsided perceptiveness that's really cute and occasionally touching. I'm not saying she the best, but she definitely stands out from the pack.

>>155145393
When does she ever dial it back? She was the only character in Nadeko Medusa/Hitagi End who tells Nadeko how it is (and then goes too far after that) instead of coddling the hell out of her even.

>>155134415
I thought she's vampire not elf

>>155145449
That was the one time she went further than what she could get away with. She probably thought it was a good cause and was prepared to accept the consequences. All the other times, she stops short of really pissing anyone off, and she listens to her brother when he seriously tells her to do something.

>>155144909

But she isn't looking to conquer though, people call her a monster because it seems like she is gaining territory.

But no one sane would call that conquest when you are ending strife in war torn countries without violence or backdeals.

>>155145673
Ending wars in backwater countries through diplomatic deals? Fine. Trying to permanently end war/borders? You need to unite everyone under one government. Good fucking luck.

>>155145149

The bullet was designed to be dodged, Ougi forced himself into a situation where he was forced to make a decision about his vampire powers instead of just continuing to use them whenever convenient.

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>>155134415

>>155144617
>It's rather the opposite. It's like how you have a friend who you'd give anything for, but actually living together as a couple would strain that great chemistry, and you'd start to see the flaws you have in someone else and be repelled by them.
That's shitty logic. Yeah, living with someone will bring obstacles into the relationship. That doesn't mean that it's better to live with someone you're not too friendly with instead of living someone you're already incredibly friendly and open with. Being afraid of seeing their flaws after getting to know them too well is an autistic way to approach it even compared the standards of the crackpots in this series, sasuga anon.

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MONKEY

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>>155134415
This one is pretty good

>>155145821
a best

>>155145810
If you haven't noticed, that anon has "special" ideas about how relationships work.

>>155145725

No one said it was easy, and she confided in Araragi it was fatiguing her.

>>155145726

That would work only if he didn't do the silly thing of almost killing himself with Ougi when he accepted what she was. Hanekawa literally saved his balls on that. And he could have avoided confronting Nadeko over and over needlessly, that was all on him, even if the situation was thanks to Ougi.

>>155147079
And I'm saying it's impossibly difficult and even the concept is generic, thoughtless, and naive. Her choice of life work is stupid and disappointing.

>>155145810

I never said it couldn't work, I was saying that it's not magically going to work over every other possible relationship as you were implying, nor was I saying you couldn't accept your partner's flaws. Every relationship has flaws. I'm a Hanekawa guy, but even I pointed out what was wrong there.

>>155147278

Her choice of work before becoming an activist was being in an NGO helping others in war torn countries. And the thing is, she is successful, or she wouldn't be as renowned or wanted by her "enemies", which are likely people who misunderstand her intentions.

So it's obvious why she would be fatigued. However, given she us doing good work around the world, saying it like it's something to he disappointed in when it's the logical next step in her working for a non profit organization is suspect. It's not like she gets huge donations on Patreon or something.

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Shut the fuck up and post more snake

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>>155147714
You're still ignoring how fucking stupid and generic a thing world peace is to work for. It's a pretty thing to say, but the reality doesn't let it work.

I want an alternate universe book where araragi decides to stay a vampire with kiss shot after restoring her.

>>155144937
Sodachi works on the town hall, where Hanekawa invaded and stole her documents. She only said there was an uproar there, but Sodachi and Hanekawa didn't meet.

She was invited by the guy who was helping her during Sodachi Lost, so it's easy to assume she was in his department doing similar things. She even says "I don’t have one whit of a laudable goal like putting myself in the care-providing side in order to help pitiable kids like I was." and Araragi thinks she is an "easy-to-understand tsundere" when she says that.

>>155144971
Fake lolis are the worst.

>>155148624
Fake lolis are the best. All the youthful charm with none of the stupid, shitty kid.

>>155144949
ok

>>155148218
A world where he killed Episode and decided to stay a vampire.

>>155147892

Outreach and diplomatic aid programs are a thing, and she has been doing those things for awhile now. She has done a lot of things. It's why they call her the modern day Jeanne D' Arc.

Never ignored what you were saying, it just doesn't apply here unless you want to say that a nonprofit member like volunteers in the Red Cross that rose up and tried to enact her ideals was fundamentally wrong. Even when they were also doing objectively good work.

>>155148402
>and Araragi thinks she is an "easy-to-understand tsundere" when she says that.
That's pretty much how she came off as in that entire conversation to me.

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>>155142793
Astra Militarum approves.

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>>155151551
And yet almost no one in the course of her life could properly understand her intentions.

>>155151857
According to the summaries, other kids at Naoetsu used to see her being kind behind the scenes and called her Oikura Angel. But it was Crab who said this, so we can't take it at face value.

>>155152079
*meant commentaries, not summaries

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>>155152079
It might have been the boy that confessed to her according to Fiasco though.

>>155151857
Not to downplay Sodachi at all but the same applies to most of the cast to varying degrees. By Musubi she and Araragi have an alright mutual sense of understanding of each other atleast.

>>155152079
I thought the kids bullied her behind her back or something? and also shipped her with Araragi behind her back because of how abnormally often they bickered in class or some shit

>>155152464
It was probably a mix of all of them. Naoetsu is a big school and she was pretty well known, there was bound to both be people who liked and disliked her.

>>155152464
It'd be nice a version of the musubi chapter in Sodachi's perspective, with all her internal overreactions and happy of his disgrace, and showing how well she can read Araragi as well.

spoopy ougers

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>>155152464
They shipped them together and talked behind her back but we don't know exactly the severity of that since crab is a bitch, math overreacts a lot and araragi became too anti-social. At the very least it doesn't seem like the class made an effort to make amends after the class trial episode in which the caused their classmate to become a truant.

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onii-chan

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>>155137349
my nigga

>>155142164
Crabfags BTFO

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>>155147761
>>155147872

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>>155154248
I want to penetrate her.

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>>155155547
>Gaen apparantly got to her at the end of Nademonogatari
I hope we get an arc of Koyomi & Nadeko together. I wanna see how the two would interact now that they both apparantly have largely gotten their shit together.

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>>155155547
>>155147761
>>155147872

>that feel when people post your images

Is there no better feeling.

>>155155698
same, I've been hoping for that since the end of hitagi end

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>>155155761
Why is Kaiki so moe?

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>>155155905

Can't be explained.

>>155155905
Not trying to hate, but he is a lonely manchild at heart. So basically /ourguy/.

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>>155155698
I really want to see Nadeko after the events of koi

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>>155155994

He is a man dedicated to his waifu and helps others in his own weird way.

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>>155156056
All we need is an anime made of the nademonogatari book, so we might see that

>>155156152
She will appear earlier at Tsukihi Undo if they do even the first off-season book.

>>155156056

You will see her for a tiny bit in Ougi Dark, so at least you get that.

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>>155155931
I think my favorite moment with him is still when he sits down in front of Senjougahara and announces to himself "I win!"

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>>155156235
I'm okay with this. I'm pretty fine with the idea of Nadeko's big role already having been played, just seeing her again would be enough to make me happy

>>155156196
ooh I've never heard of that book before, when is it set?

>>155156306
Orokamonogatari? Sodachi Fiasco happens during koi, Suruga Bonehead after hana, Tsukihi Undo at least after Araragi graduating but I'm not sure.

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Does anyone have the kaiki stride webm?

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>>155156237

I really liked his debate with himself over trying to morally doing the right thing both for himself and for Senjou.

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>>155134415
There is no such thing as best grill in this show

Monkey is best as a person
Snake is best character
Crab is best waifu
Spook has bes bantz
Doll is best bro

Thus, we have at least 5 best girls.

But Shinobu certainly isn't one.

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>>155156674
>Monkey is best as a person
I'm a Monkeyfag even but this isn't entirely true I think. People really play down the whole Rainy Devil thing despite it being a big part of her arc and character (she's more interesting for it in my opinion).

>>155156674
Not sure if I'd call how ougi talks banter. It's more maliciously inquisitive than playfully teasing and primarily one sided.

Crab, Snail, Monkey, Bat and musubi Math have more banter in my opinion.

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>>155156674

As an Ougifag, Hachikuji has better banter. Ougi seems like she has better banter due to her sort of "forcing" the conversation with every person she talks to except Hanekawa, but she can do anything.

>>155156674
>Crab is best waifu
lol

>>155156444
That whole monologue turning out to be a fake out was the best part of Koi tho.

>>155157546

>except Hanekawa

"I win."

Both times Cat says it, it's so cute and adorably immature when she is mature 99.99% of the time.

>>155134415
Why is she still intent on helping him out so much anyway, I thought she'd start living for herself more after Tiger.

Her whole team mom thing is supposed to come off as selfless I guess but it instead comes off as pathetic and self-degrading if anything, that's not me trying to hate on the character either.

>>155163460
meant to quote >>155162254

>>155156674
Only Hanekawa and Shinobu matter tho

>>155156674
>snake is best character
Putrid taste.

>>155156674
>Doll is best bro

But that's Snail