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2016 Anime Industry Report

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In English.
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>>154572364
Forgot about the first page, so here it is, sorry.
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>>154572375
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>>154572409
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>>154572364
nicesuu, can you link a pdf of it afterwards thanks.
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>>154572364
so basically, 25% of their revenues come from selling their stuff oversea, and 25% from selling dakimakura and shit?
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>>154572432


>>154572545
Sure.

http://aja.gr.jp/?wpdmdl=1005
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>>154572364
>Pachinko
Sooooo we Yakudza now?
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>>154572364
So why did overseas revenue just explode like that?
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>>154572611
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This is pretty interesting, Thanks.
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>>154572636
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>>154572632
mainly more hits and general more anime being made with increasing growth in the streaming domain.
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>>154572658
And that's it, if you want a download link for the pdf, I linked it here.
>>154572611
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>>154572632
Mostly because of the Chinks.
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>>154572364
>the pachinko meme is real
Well shit.
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>>154572432
>Arrival of Post Ghibli
>"Your Name"...which brough a big social impact since "Spirited Away"....
Is "your name" really that good?
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>>154572689
I will never understand it.
Are neets blowing all their money on slots?
Gambling is one hell of a drug.
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>pachinko
>2008
What went wrong?
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>>154572364
2,000billion soon?
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>>154572632
Big chink stream deals
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>>154572740
Doesn't mean it's good, just means it's really, really popular, more than anyone could have expected.
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Merchandise dropped quite hard.
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>>154572813
What do you think advanced home 3d printing is going to do to figurine sales?
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>>154572843
It'll probably make figure maker make porcelain figurines, since those probably won't be 3d printable.
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That shit looks very interesting and very professional. I'm keeping it. Thanks.

>le "anime is dying" meme turned out to be untrue
No surprise there.
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>>154572843
Garage kits are going to become more complex with better sculpts as tech matures.
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>>154572877
God did I fuck that up. It'll probably lead figure makers to create porcelain figures.
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Most 2009-2012 anime were so shit.
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>>154572887
No one believed that meme except newfags.
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>>154572887
Anime might die in a different way, by Japanese producers sucking Chinese cock and pandering to chinks.
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>>154572887
Japanese anime is dying
Chink anime is rising

Like Chink web novels
Chink comics
Chink Hollywood
Chink solar panels
Chink electronics
Chink people buying homes in Canada and England
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>>154572636
>someone actually negotiated an anime distribution contract for Antratica

Jeez, how many weebs live there?
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>>154572902
There was also a recession, no one had money to spend.
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>>154572632
it literally says in the article, China.
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Are figurines really that much of a best selling items?

I always see cheap things sold for expensive values like trinkets, towels, tapestries, etc to be the main income source merchandise-wise.
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>>154572936
Scientists are weebs
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>>154572930
>>154572931
t. changs
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>>154572931
>le chink meme
China was recently hit by its own growth limit and fucked global economy over due to overwhelming stipulation on the growth. In a few years, China will start declining.
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It's interesting that the overseas market has gone back to it's 2006 peak.

But mostly due to China, as opposed to the US.
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>>154572936
The Japanese operate a whaling station there.
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>>154573004
>>154573020
China doesn't only grow in its own country.

Africa is becoming China possession.
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>>154572364
Just remember this stuff mixes daytime and late night stuff. Your shitty LN adaptation is still fucked with no BD sales.
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>>154573081
Whaling station such as this thing?
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>>154573081
Makes sense. That way, nobody else has to hear the wailing.
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>>154573004
>t.
Back to chingland with you.
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>>154572364
This is really interesting, thanks for posting.
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>>154572887
Its not dying due to China/Asia market.

In US/Europe its pretty much flatlining or worse. Population grows by year if it flat lines, it means its at negative growth.

This just means more anime will be marketed towards Chinese/Asian market rather than American/US market.
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BASED CHINKS SAVING ANIME
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>>154573175
>This just means more anime will be marketed towards Chinese/Asian market rather than American/US market.
Good

Asia is the saviour of both anime and gaming
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Guys, reminder that these reports are for ALL japanese animation, not only for your otaku pandering late-night anime.
Huge chunk of those numbers is contributed by kid shows like Doraemon, Detective Conan etc. For example majority of merchandise sales are literally children toys, not your stupid figurines.

Also note that oversea sales includes not only streaming, but also home video distribution, merchandise and other stuff.
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>>154572364
With BD sales being such a minuscule contributor to revenue, is the shitposting in Amazon Stalker threads really worth it? It's no longer the best measure for a show's success now is it?
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WESTERNERS BTFO
LITERALLY IRRELEVANT
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>>154573175
>This just means more anime will be marketed towards Chinese/Asian market rather than American/US market.
And that's a good thing. It keeps the SJW and all those atrocious Western tropes at bay.
God bless Asia.
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This type of charts would have been much better if we actually knew what series make up the majority of these numbers. It's like saying 2016 was good in terms of BD sales, even though 3 shows in total sold more than 2 whole seasons.
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>>154572364
>music that low
Why?
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>>154573236
This, North American needs to shut the fuck up.
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>>154573224
>Guys, reminder that these reports are for ALL japanese animation, not only for your otaku pandering late-night anime.
>Huge chunk of those numbers is contributed by kid shows like Doraemon, Detective Conan etc. For example majority of merchandise sales are literally children toys, not your stupid figurines.
The report makes explicit mention of that. And I don't think people here still hold the delusion that late-night is as profitable as little kid shows.
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>>154573236
Thank fuck for that. I don't want /a/ to be relevant to the anime industry, never mind Reddit, MAL, ANN, etc.
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>>154573230
Shows with more BD sales are more popular than shows with less 90% of the time.
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>>154573224
But for events like Anisong concerts and live anime events, they're typically from late anime anime, no?
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>>154573266
Idolshit is dying
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>>154573274
>implying Baidu or Weibo is any better
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>>154573261
We do know. Kids' shows are the vast majority of the revenue. The mainstream may be less dedicated, but that's where the cash is made.
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>>154573297
Good.
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>>154573084

If it turns those Africans in something productive for the world, I say let them be.
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>>154573266
There's only so much money you can make off selling CDs and digital downloads of seiyuu who can't sing for shit. Anyway, concerts are where the money's at which is what the report mentions.
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>>154573291
Nah.

Precure, Aikatsu, etc live shows are happening all the time.

I bet the "Pachinko and the likes" are majorly Aikatsu/PriPara machines as well.
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>>154573297
You wish
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>>154573004
>>154573020
I don't understand something. Neither of you are Japanese, so why do you have the Japanese animosity towards other Asian countries?

You're not Japanese, and you never will be, so why do you care?
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>>154573317
Africa + China leading the world = end of western hegemony

Good_____
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>>154573305
I wonder what their memes are like.
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>>154573266
>CDs cost too much
>rent-stores are dying
>shutting off availability to foreigners
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>>154573084
HOL UP
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>>154572364
Great thread.
One because it demonstrates how the anime industry keeps growing. The guys who say the industry is dying get btfo.
Second because it shows that streaming is completely irrelevant in the game, and the streaming powerhouse is China anyway. CR btfo.
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>>154573353
Weabs

True weabs who hate their own country and """"identify"""" as a japanese
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>>154573353
>hatred
I do not 'hate' China per say. I have Chink friends. But the country is one of the biggest shitholes of the Earth, and that's something objectively observable if you do so much as simply look at the news.
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Wait I thought China banned internet
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>>154573403
>""""identify""""
Stop.
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>>154573437
Where did you hear that?
They banned certain sites
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Pachinko is the key to success.
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>>154572608
You mean 25% of their revenue comes from Crunchyroll, Funimation, and Netflix. Don't kid yourself, Americans don't buy DVDs

>but, muh theory that watching CR is worthless and everyone should feel ok pirating
Yeah, it's wrong.
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>>154572930
China is a paper tiger
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>>154572636
Honestly I think the low revenue from foreign markets is because of Japanese incompetence.

If you ignore a market for decades it will sadly decline, there's a reason properties like Saint Seiya do well in Asia, Europe and Latin America, because Bandai/Toei never told any of those markets to shove it.

Latin Americans have been into anime since the 70s yet Japan never exploited that market, when a convention or something happens it's always in the US and again I repeat saint seiya, they shipped the 12 real sized gold cloths to brazil a couple years ago and it was a success so again it shows that if you care about a market you get money in return, who would've thought.
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>>154573472
More like from BiliBili
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>>154573353
>implying you have to be Japanese to hate China
It's just the common opinion between most of China's neighbors
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>>154573297
>>154573336
>>154573385
But I'm talking about anison singers, not singing seiyuu or idols.
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The report's risk assessment of China is worth taking note. The overseas licensing boom is largely fueled by China but political and bureaucratic risks are there. I suppose the Chinese media watchdogs don't regulate streaming services at the moment?
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>>154573353
>everyone who dislikes chinks and gooks is Japanese/weeb
Dubfag level argument there Kim/Chang.
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>>154573472
Article clearly states the huge international revenue increase in the past couple of years is almost entirely China, so CR is almost irrelevant.
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>>154572364
Merchandise really is king
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>>154572632
You're asking the wrong question.
The real question is "why did it shrink from 2006 to 2013?"
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>>154573499
Music sales aren't the biggest revenue contributors if I'm not mistaken, it's always concerts that make big bucks. That's just how it is.
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>>154573548
No Haruhi
No Geass
No Gurren Lagann
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>>154573480
>when a convention or something happens it's always in the US

Mexico actually has a convention oficially backed by the japanese embassy (J'fest) but guess what? Most mexicans are too cheap to shell out $20 for an event, let alone $50ish like in the US.
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>>154573548
Pretty much half the American distribution industry didn't survive the economic crash. Del Rey, TokyoPop etc.
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>>154573353
Most western people hate Asians, especially Chinese and Indians because we have a lot of student and immigrants here and can see that you are human trash. This has nothing to do with Japanese media, even if I wouldn't like anime, I would still despise these shitholes.
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>>154572636
I am really curious about the anime in africa.
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>>154573175
>In US/Europe its pretty much flatlining or worse
Speak for yourself Johnny, anime and manga is getting even more popular than it used to be in the haydays of Death Note here.
>This just means more anime will be marketed towards Chinese/Asian market rather than American/US market
It never was marketed towards the US, stop it with this meme. The US and EU market liked some products that were fairly unpopular in Japan but had no infulence over their production in the first place.
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>>154573250
Don't forget to sing your daily Chinese national anthem and pray to Chaiman Mao.
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>>154572887
>anime is dying is the new le wrong generation
Loving every laugh.
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>>154573581
But Kalafina and Eir Aoi went there.

>>154573581
Really? Over here cons can cost up to about $40 for VIP tickets but they're still generally well-attended.
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>>154573542
Of course it is. Anime is something that can be broadcast afterwards, recorded, downloaded, etc. It has almost no physical value at all too.

Merchandising is pleasant to see, it has a feel, it's tangible, you can touch it, play with it, squeeze it, hug it, hotglue it and so on.
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>>154573619
>but had no infulence over their production in the first place.
Well, this is untrue but almost true.
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>>154573130
Over the line.
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Will it ever be possible to stop using western when people actually mean American? words are important.
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>>154573480
>when a convention or something happens it's always in the US
What? No it isn't. Europe has the two biggest conventions right after Comiket and numerous other smaller ones. And that's excluding the fact that pretty much every european country has their own conventions even shit-tier ones like Romania.
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>>154573644
Western art might have been a source of influence, but artistic influence does not equal marketing operation.
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>>154573674
America is the largest market for anime in the Anglosphere: the UK and Australian markets just aren't as big, so sometimes, it can't be helped for "American" and "Western" to be interchangeable.
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Anime was quite popular but only Big O and (I think) Space Dandy is made together with American companies.

Anime is rising in China for like 2 years yet we already have like 5-7 titles made out of Chinese IPs and with Chinese capital.
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>>154573713
Good thing that the UK and the aussie aren't the only other westerners, uh.
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>>154573480
>when a convention or something happens it's always in the US
Anime Festival Asia would like to have a word with you.
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>>154573713
Yet the french market produces and consumes more despite being considerably smaller.
it's pretty weird when you think of it
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>>154573175
>This just means more anime will be marketed towards Chinese/Asian market rather than American/US market.

Thank fuck for that, I want my shows to remain weird. Leave it to the US to dullify anything it tries to "adapt for domestic audiences".
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>>154573674
>American vassal thinking its "culture" that we disbanded post 1945 deserves a special mention
Enjoy your burgers, Hans
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>>154573224
>Huge chunk of those numbers is contributed by kid shows like Doraemon, Detective Conan etc
those have been around on their streams since forever, the only things new are late night shows which they've only begun pushing into the Chinese market a year ago
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>>154572364
>Dat overseas
Well, This is fucking scary, is our world gonna be filled with this shitty Otaku in the near future?
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>>154573743
French invented the word anime after all.
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>>154573674
You have to count europe as a whole. That's how they work.
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>>154573714
Honestly that has a lot more to do with China going full "soft power" like the USA used to.
Because if they want to keep up their maritime antics, they are going to need people to like them or face a nasty backlash.
It's not as if it was only happening in anime either.
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>>154572611

>Videograms
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>>154573743
France and Japan have ties that can't dumbed down to "WESTERN BIG GUY BELITTLES SMALL GOGGLES-WEARING ASIAN". There's an actual friendship between the two countries and they love each other's (actual) culture.
Same with Germany.
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>>154573759
No, but China will be full of NEETs VERY soon. Animu is like cancer.
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>>154573770
It's actually impressive Africa is as high as South America
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>>154573750
I am not from Germany.
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>>154573770
I for one cannot wait to see african deviantart-tier amateur manga.
pretty sure most of it is in Maghreb and perhaps South Africa though
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>>154573759
This is a spoiler but the industry is going to hit a low once the China bubble explodes son don't worry about future otaku.
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>>154573816
That's odd, I'm pretty sure anime is quite popular at least in Brazil and Argentina.
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>>154573816
>>154573825
That are the north African arabs, it's full of weebs.
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>>154573825
I would expect most African weebs to be from Nigeria.
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Does the Middle East count as Asia or does it count as Africa?
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>>154573581
>Mexico

Might as well be the US. It's 1 country that is literally right next to the US so there's no difference from it, do you think Argentinians or Chileans can/want go to mexico? do you think they even find out that event exists?

The southern cone is the richest part of Latin America, make one in Buenos Aires or Santiago and you'll get people interested. What you said is literally the problem I mentioned, they completely ignore the market.

Now it's too late, it could've been a thing if they started in the 80's or 90's or hell maybe the early 2000s. Nowadays TV in all Latin America refuses to give a shit about anime, at best you get scraps.
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>>154573816
My guess would be that's thanks to french-speaking north-africa that can grab bits of the french editions and translations
Or maybe Nigeria and Ghana really are up to something.
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>>154573848
Anime isn't haram?
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>>154573674
Shit pisses me off so much I literally got banned/blocked from other communities for explaining butthurt americans how their country is not even in the top 5 when it comes to the overseas manga industry when they were doing the same dumb West=America crap.
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>>154573859
Asia.
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>>154572636
>Weebshit will devour the market in the near future
Fuck ,this is confusing while I'm happy that cape shit and all those western shit show is dying, the fact that this world will be full of weeb is fucking terrifying.
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>>154573823
Who cares, European cultures are exchangeable by now, with the only difference being some national food and the languages which get more and more English words every year. You all have the same way to think: The American way.
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>>154573869
It's very halal blud.
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>>154573869
The two rules for things being haram :
>the desert-jew books say something bad about it
>I don't like it
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>>154573833
>China bubble explodes
Not anytime soon then.
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>>154573859
Asian part to Asia, African part to Africa.

>>154573869
Nobody cares about haram in private.
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>>154573905
But what about the shows with traps and homos?
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>>154573816
Sandniggers like anime. Egypt and the like are rich countries
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>>154573848
But Middle East is next to nothing.
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>>154573891
>You all have the same way to think: The American way.
It's not only European culture.

All urbanites think similarly nowadays
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>>154573695
The Big O series 2 was part funded by cartoon network. Works such as the Animatrix and Interstellar 5555. It isn't significant but there was a period when western funded ventures were a thing. There has been more western influence again in recent years with things like Little Witch Academia and Netflix, Amazon and Crunchyroll paying for exclusive streaming rights and partfunding shows
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>>154573751
>a year ago
*2 years ago
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>>154573687
>Europe
>the other side of the world has conventions
>that helps the market in the americas

wew
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>>154573940
>Egypt
>rich
I don't think so mate
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>>154573941
Morocco, Algeria, Egypt and Tunis aren't Middle East.
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>>154573770
I refuse to believe that Latin America is that low.
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>>154573736
>Anime Festival Asia
>A festival on the other side of the world
Are you retarded? pay attention to what you're reading
>>154573992
>>154573864
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>>154573941
Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt are not part of the middle-east in that sort of classification.
And that's where the closest thing there is in Africa to a "middle class" with disposable income for leisure is.
And again, french translations.
I'm not sure there are that many stuff from Japan that is translated into arabic, so in the actual middle-east you'd have to either rely on english translations and import or pull from the small pool of titles available in arabic.
And keep in mind that places like Saudi Arabia or Iran consider entertainment like movies to be impure and prohibited due to religious reasons. Movie theaters are technically illegal in Saudi Arabia.
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>>154573968
Yes, but these are drops of water in the swimming pool. Does the fact that many studios outsource some of the work in Korea prove korean influence over the market as well?
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>>154574041
The latest One Piece movie had its world premiere event in one of those oil-rich middle eastern countries, there's probably a sizeable amount of arabic-translated anime there.
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>>154574041
>Iran consider entertainment like movies to be impure and prohibited due to religious reasons
Iran has a lot of retarded things, but they have a continuous history in movies and at no time during the revolution movies were prohibited or considered impure. They just burned down some in the 70s because of the western movies, not because of the medium.
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>>154574070
No korea = no cheap labors = production cost skyrocket = investors want sure returns = only focus tested hit titles gets animated
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>>154572636
>Poland is not zero
wow desu
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http://www.nairaland.com/3673997/anime-playlist-top-winter-2017#54442719

You can search for an anime here, it should be a fairly african/nigerian forum. I know nothing about Ghana, Egypt and the rest.
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>>154574070
That's a weak argument. In my examples Japan was effectively doing contract work for the US and Daft Punk, in your examples the Kore was doing the contract work for Japan. In consumerism which is customer orientated the customer holds greater influence than the producer. I don't deny that they are a handful of exceptions, but to deny absolutely western influence over anime during the early 2000s is ignorant
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>>154574168
Not sure if chinese expatriate watching anime when he isn't busy dealing with illegal mining operations or actual genki nigerian weeb
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>>154572364

I'm kind of glad the argument of anime is dying got BTFO thanks to this.
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>>154574233
It's fueled by chinks, so it's about to die.
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>>154574233
>>154572920
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>>154573224
The report literally said that late-night has taken over kiddie anime.
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>>154574140
Wasn't Poland pretty weeb like 15+ years ago? I definitely remember most of my first anime on polish TV channels we got on satelite in the late 90s
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>>154574168
*fairly big

>>154574223
Nah they are actual nigerians, you can look around in their boards and they talk about african tv shows, football games, and so on-
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>>154574233
/v/ will never stop repeating it and people will never stop listening to them.
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>>154574244
>doing better than ever
>"b-but guys, chinks are behind this so it doesn't count"
*insert smug anime girl picture*
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>>154574218
And again, influence does not necessarily equal market focus.
Of course there is an influence, there has been mutual influence in art since the 18th century.
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>>154574272
Slavs are really-really weeb.
t. slav
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>>154574313
but you aren't slav
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>>154574263
I was about to point that out but realized the report only shows the amount of kid's/late anime but not revenue wise. Although it's safe to assume that revenue for late anime is rising(especially since that's what China is all about) it may still be considerably less than kid's.
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>>154574307

Got ya covered anon
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>>154574340
Ага, ещё бы я не slav.
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>Suicidial gay weeb draws fanart based on his favorite Japanese art

Now do I talk about myself or Van Gogh ?
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>>154574168
>nigerian
Do they censor every mention of kami-sama?
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>>154574244
The only thing that got a hit was merchandising. Everything else as a whole is more relevant than chinks.
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>>154574168
http://www.nairaland.com/2464148/kingdom-anime-manga
I'm surprized how little they disagree or fling shit.
Maybe I'm just too used to /a/
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>>154574313
>>154574360
Don't you have some gays to bash? You fucking bitch? How do you enjoy your censored media and being ruled by the Orthodox church and estentially living in the 16th century??
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>>154574391
Манька, я же хихол, мне насрать.
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>>154574391
>Don't you have some gays to bash?
Starting with you, buddy
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>>154574391
Kill yourself and your irrelevant racism.
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>>154574363
>I envy the Japanese the extreme clarity that everything in their work has. It's never dull, and never appears to be done too hastily. Their work is as simple as breathing, and they do a figure with a few confident strokes with the same ease as if it was as simple as buttoning your waistcoat

Man Van Gogh was a huge huge weeb
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>>154574391
t. Pussy Riot
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>>154574272
there was kind of a boom late 90's-early 2000's when they would air some titles , but as far as I know nowadays anime isn't broadcasted on TV
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>>154573695
Some European countries did co-productions with japanese anime studios back in the 80s-90s (France and Italy mainly, from what I know)

For recent involvements, Italy had a part in the new Lupin III series.
Ghibli did some work for the Red Turtle.
And Mitsuo Iso is on a french-japanese movie project about dodos.
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>>154574391
>being ruled by the Orthodox
The church is the government's bitch though. At least get your shitposting straight
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>>154574453
t. пидораха
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I love that place
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>>154574447
>About staying in the south, even if it’s more expensive—Look, we love Japanese painting, we’ve experienced its influence—all the Impressionists have that in common—[so why not go to Japan], in other words, to what is the equivalent of Japan, the south? So I believe that the future of the new art still lies in the south after all.

>All my work is based to some extent on Japanese art.
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>>154574391
are you implying that all slavs are Russian ?
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>>154574447
Many european artists from the 19th and early 20th century were.
who do you think was Vincent's waifu?
do you think he did it for her?
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>>154574486
rekt
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>>154574486
That's good
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>>154574486
It's the foot length, right?
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>>154573864
Chile actually has one, and it's done two times a year. People from the whole country come to Santiago, but it isn't anything spectacular. The most oficial japanese thing are some bands that have come. I don't how it works in the US, but it's pretty shirty here.
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>>154574502
He's gay anon

He has a husbando

Must be Nobunaga
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>>154573175
>In US/Europe its pretty much flatlining or worse.
Good. I watch anime to watch Japanese cartoons, not American ones.
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>/pol/trash out of nowhere
What's going on in this thread?
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>>154574531
>>154574486
Actually, its the length of your index finger. Both are influenced by the amount to testosterone you were exposed to as a fetus.
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>Learned Japanese just in time for the market to jump ship to China

fuck, looks like it's time to learn some hanzi.
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>>154573236
This.
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>chink growing influence

Don't worry, with how they're preparing for war they're about to fall off real fast.
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>>154574658
>What's going on in this thread?
What's going on is that it's going down, just like the worth of the Russian Ruble.
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>>154573617
this, just this
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Anime is, always has been, and always will be made exclusively for Japanese otaku and Japanese kids. If you don't like "weebshit", get the fuck out of this hobby, because that's all you're gonna get, as confirmed by OP's stats.
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>>154573261
>4300 shows in 2015
2015 didn't have 4600 shows, so they are selling old names anda few new hit shows (mostly kids shows).
And CRfags/netflixfags BTFO.
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>>154573816
Africa is not a land full of sand burg-kun
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>>154574879
>If you don't like "weebshit"
Good thing only videogame enthusiasts hate "weebshit"
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>>154574244
>It's fueled by chinks, so it's about to die.
/v/ doesn't know how to read graphs, I see.
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>>154572636
Is there a list of the licences by country somewhere? I really want to see Africa's taste, and what is actually official in Latin America.
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>>154572930
Japan doesn't really need to since it seems they'd eat any junk Japan makes, of course some rich chinks want to try funding garbage like chinkpact but I doubt that would be the norm.
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>>154573838
It is, they don't exploit it. BR+AR is a market almost as big as the US, without all the local competition.
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>>154575034

We licensed Ping pong the animation and Magic Kaito lately, with dub, Netflix got the rights of one punch man so is possible we get the dub as well, I don't know the taste of others just giving some info regarding LA
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Chinese official stream views from last season
YOI >>> Bungou S2 > Natsume S5 > Keijo > Drifters > Kiss him, not me > ALL OUT > Swordfags > Ajin S2 > Occult 9 > Nanbaka > Wife/student council pres >> take away a zero or two and you have everything else
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>>154573838
Anime is in a weird spot here in Brazil. It's not that popular, but some things just hit it off what made it popular.
I mean, here, about everyone either likes or at least knows about Dragonball and no one will think you're weird when you say you like it. Then there are series that the younger generation watched as kids like Saint Seiya or Inuyasha and they remember and like, but they aren't as popular as Dragonball and the people that watched it are not weebs or anime fans per se.
But other series like Pokemon, Digimon or Naruto are seem as kids' shows so they are not as popular as they seem (but people DO know about them).
Non-mainstream anime series that we had here like Tenchi Universe or Jibaku-kun are completely unknown and its quite rare to find people that know about.

Then there's the weebs here, that torrent/stream/download/actually import BDs/merchandisings but hide their powerlevels 24/7, and I assume they are the biggest part.
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>>154572636
brazil confirmed the best country on the latin america AGAIN
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I remember some animators said there is too much quantity of anime per year and that their salaries are not rising. Quality drops
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>>154575159
5 Centimeters Per Second (movie) (Latin America) (Brazil) (Angola) (Mozambique)
Astro Boy (TV 2/1980) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Children Who Chase Lost Voices (movie)
(The) File of Young Kindaichi Returns (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
(The) Garden of Words (movie) (Latin America) (Brazil) (Mozambique) (Angola)
InuYasha: The Final Act (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Kids on the Slope (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Locodol (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Magic Kaito 1412 (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Mononoke (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
Ping Pong (TV) (Latin America) (Brazil)
(The) Place Promised in Our Early Days (movie) (Latin America) (Brazil) (Angola) (Mozambique)
Voices of a Distant Star (OAV)

Wow it's fucking nothing
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>>154573383
moderately spicy
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I dont know what are you talking about, Argentina is dead.
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>>154575669
esto
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>>154575669
This is response to >>154573864
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>>154575669
Things are pretty bad, but the capitals are still extremely wealthy, even for SA standards.
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>>154572658
BASED kyoto is better than +500 tokyoshit studios
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>>154573175
>Anime is still strong but is flatlining is ameriburgerland or Muslim europe
THANK FUCKING GOD FOR THAT

Thank you for making me feel better
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>>154572364
>>154572409
>"Despite revenue increases in North America, the remarkable increase in Chinese market constitutes more than half of the [overseas] increase"

Honestly I can't even tell what would be worse, an age of Chinese targeted anime or an age of western targeted one
The future is going to SUCK
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>>154574391
Watch it. Russians will send their hackers against you.
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>>154576154
>Honestly I can't even tell what would be worse, an age of Chinese targeted anime
There's nothing wrong with that at all. Chinese people have the same taste that Japs do.
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>>154575904
>he dropped in just to say that irrelevant shit

What a fucking child.
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>>154572740
Not at all, is painfully mediocre, even bad in some points. It has some nice graphics and music tho but that's it
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what do when you finish an anime and feel empty inside?
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>>154576282
The problem is Chinkshit like Spiritpact.
It keeps getting produced despite the Chinks hating it. Hell, even the director of Hitori no Shita acknowledged if was crap.
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So no Sino-Japan war soon then?
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>>154576402
Start the next one.
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>>154576154
The future is bright, anime is finally dying, if japs want to still be in the lead they have to start shitting some quality content, who knows, maybe we will get another Cowboy Bebop or Evangelion or LOGH instead of all the mediocre copy pasted shit we keep getting
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>>154576437
>anime is finally dying
That's only true in the west. Anime is thriving in Asia.
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>>154576437
>anime is dying
>have a shitload of counter arguments in the same thread
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Chinese anime about their martial art web novels when?
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>>154572409
>Japanese animation which disproved such accepted myth is indeed a symbolic icon of "Cool Japan".
Man, I love reading their version of English.
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>>154576402
Enjoy it because you may stop feeling this in a couple of years
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>>154574391
based ameriGODS being fat and dumb in every board conceding us ELITE posts like this one
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>>154574658
there's a good amount of weaboos in /a/ that will shit in anything that is related to china or korea, just try to create a thread about a manhua or webtoon and see what happens.
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>>154576658
>just try to create a thread about a manhua or webtoon and see what happens.
This is an anime/manga board, and those are not anime or manga. If I made a thread about cheese on /a/, I'd probably get laughed at too.
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>>154574447
even pixiv uses a Van Gogh phrase as their main catch, it's astonishing

based as fuck
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>>154576402
I wish I could still feel like that after finishing an anime.
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>>154574486
BTFO
T
F
O
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>>154576699
Officially they belong here, but it's depend of the mod if is deleted or not, most of those thread get deleted because of the shitposting.
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>>154576781
>Officially they belong here
Wrong.
>1. All images and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga

If a mod doesn't delete it, then they aren't doing their job.
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>>154572636
When will anime goes the Hollywood route and include more Chinese characters?
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>>154575249
thanks
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>>154572931
>Chink people buying homes in Canada and England
Thats how eager people are to get out of that corrupted totalitarian hellhole, dont worry china has already starts its decline on gdp despite the govt.s desperate attempts to keep numbers inflated. Throw in social unrest and the disputes with its neighbors and china wont grow to be a superpower.

Do you guys think china will be influence anime though, will money over the previous grievances between japan and china. Tried some actual chinese cartoons and other than them being complete haram rip offs I really could stand listening to the language, anyone else?
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>>154576818
this have been discused to death in /q/, they belong here.
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>>154576639
Only if you watch shit like a squirrel
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>>154576915
What /qa/ says and what's actually the truth are two entirely different things. If you don't believe me, try making a thread about webtoons right now and see what happens.
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>>154573250
Wouldnt matter because the sjws wouldnt be the ones buying anime stuff, so they would continue to sexual women. If anything they would make stuff like panty and stocking to try to appeal to western audiences.
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>>154572364
>Bluray sales wars confirmed for useless
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>>154573480
In mexico anime aired alot in daytime for kids, they alos had a lot of promotions with snacks and other merchandise even lotteries. Pokemon and saint seya were especially popular
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>>154577069
>just now he found out about this
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>>154576424
>The problem is Chinkshit like Spiritpact.
>It keeps getting produced despite the Chinks hating it. Hell, even the director of Hitori no Shita acknowledged if was crap.

They need to adapt this

http://yaoi-blcd.tumblr.com/post/148571525675/their-story-sq-character-guide-ed-does-the
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>>154573472
Most oversea sales come from China. The anime industry doesn't earn shit from Crunchyroll and other streaming services.
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>>154573472
dont kid yourself, the west isn't the only market. Also lots of nips reimport foreign market BDs, why pay for 6 5000 yen disks when you can buy a foreign single disk BD set for 6000 yen.
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>>154573472
>but, muh theory that watching CR is worthless and everyone should feel ok pirating
Everyone should feel ok pirating because CR Jews don't deserve money.

Kill yourself shill.
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>>154573620
Better than having SJWs ruin it.
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>>154577696
This, though I'd expand SJWs to the West in general.
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>>154578400

Remind me of this
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>>154579130
Well, it's true.
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>>154574018
They probably count everything north of Panama as "North America", but they should have called "Latin" America South.
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>>154579130
>Ugh, white people are so racist.
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>>154573581
>J'fest
But their lineup this year is garbage. Bought a ticket anyway to hope for better artists next year, but still.

>too cheap to shell out $20 for an event
You have to take into account the weight of the mexican currency and minimum wage; we don't make enough money to spend it like the americans do. Most people make $350 per month, $20 is a lot in that sort of budget.
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>>154579130
It depends, but that isn't completly wrong.
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We'll start seeing a slight decline starting with 2017, because the chink tech companies won't buy all the animus anymore.
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>>154580506
They'll start making their own cheap Chinese versions.
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Isn't Crunchyroll owned by a chink megacorp anyway?
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>>154580649
Even worse, by At&T.
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>>154573353
I am German and the Chinese exchange students who come here to study have got to be most pathetic I've ever talked to. Fuck China and Chinese people.
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>chinks want moar anime: more Thunderbolt Fantasy, less LWA

I'm ok with this
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>>154580810
The chinks will hire the cheap no-name studios nobody on /a/ ever heard about to produce their chink-animus for them.
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>>154580810
Thunderbolt Fantasy is capitalist island China, not capitalist continental China.
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>>154580950
The chinks ARE the no-name studios doing the work already, they already have everything to bypass the japanese altogether and probably haven't started in full because of the budget.
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>>154580810
Watch Bloodivores before you say that.
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>>154572636
>north korea is green
Guess Kim likes his Chinese cartoons.
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>>154579130
true
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>>154581021
Nah, they're still working together with impoverished nip studios who'd work with anyone as long as they can make an actual animu instead of having to make inbetweens for the middle tier studios that are regularly mentioned about in studiowarring threads.
It will still take a few years before the chinks have learned everything from the nips before they drop them like a rotten egg (which are a delicacy in some region of China).
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Knowing chinks though, most of their native stuff will be either historical low/high fantasy dramas or serious/comedic wuxia. Little SOL or school/academy based stuff
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>>154580810
>mfw i like both

But even a retard with an IQ of a squirrel can tell difference between the two show apart and who they're targeted towards. Shame on you, faggot
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>>154581220
I wouldn't mind a Ravages of Time anime.
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>>154580810

Then watch all of studio Emon's works so you can get a taste of the glorious future you're envisioning.
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>>154577696
That wouldn't happen to anime anyways. Japan isn't infested with that cancer yet
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>>154581220

Less highschool battle shit and SoL is a good thing. What concerns me is that China's government censors the shit out of everything, which leads to boring "safe" stories and visuals. Plus the production values (at least right now) are hilariously bad. Might improve with time but there will be no substitute for the real deal.
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>>154582258
>Less highschool battle shit and SoL is a good thing.
Back to r/anime (besides, China loves harem battle anime and CGDCT just as much as Japan does).
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>>154572931
chink's entertainment industry is literally shit tier though, like it has almost nothing watchable recently
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>>154576425
Still happening, just that now it will happen because the chairman wanted the childhood friend to win.
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>>154572877
>3D print figure in metal
>apply clay
>bake
>get 3D-printed ceramic figure
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>>154582498

They love it just as much, but so far haven't produced any. If they get serious about it I expect the first thing they'll do is make their own Love Live knock-off, since cute girls doing idol things is huge and not likely to get censored (purity, sincerity, and chastity above all else, after all).
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>>154582830
They're not going to be making it, they'll just buy the stuff that comes out of Japan.
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>>154582830
Chinese is an awful language to hear. Idol chinkshit won't sell.
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>>154572887
Anime might be dying from a creative point of view. I don't think it is but some people think that. And many companies involved in making anime are doing badly from their individual point of view. But as an industry? It's doing fine.
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>>154583454
>I don't think it is but some people think that.
Why would you ever give a single shit about a non-Japanese person's view of the anime industry?
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>>154573353

If you knew the terrible monstrosity that is China then you'd hate them as well. Nothing good will come from associating with China. They can't even make good games. Other Asian countries are pretty shit and worthless with a few rare exceptions.
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>>154583489
Weebs usually don't know shit about the industry, but they can still discuss an anime itself. That's why /a/ exists. I think the "creative bankruptcy" is a myth, but there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that it's a pretty common opinion.
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>>154583821
Well of course, but most "weebs" actually enjoy and learn about anime beyond Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and shitty tumblr/twitter memes.
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>>154572364
stream fags utterly btfo

merch matters more
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>>154572632
Wide distribution of anime films in overseas theaters. Before they were just limited releases.
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>>154584018
"4. Internet distribution" is only domestic revenues, like Niconico pay-to-view.
Crunchy and co are included into "7. Overseas", and as you can see it's comparable to the total for merchandise.
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>>154583821
At this point people use weeb to descibrbe any faggot who has watched an episode of dragon ball Z
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>>154584018
All overseas sales are for foreign streaming service providers.

You'll notice that the amount of nip domestic video sales (includes BDs and DVDs) is going down by the same amount that nip domestic streaming service is increasing.

Even the nip-otaku have found out that it's the current year and that they don't need to buy discs anymore or hope for some recap movie to rewatch an anime.
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>>154573175
Were you trying to prove something with this?
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>>154584210
You apparently don't know what the word means so please kindly shut up. It's not about how many anime you've watched.
And that opinion of anime being in a creative slump is very common among "old" anime fans, as in persons over 30yo. I don't know how you guys associate it with shonenfags.
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>>154572843
>>154572877
Are you some sort of nigger who doesn't buy stuff and just pirate?
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>globalization will kill anime in your lifetime
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Weeb or weeaboo is not even used as a insult anymore.

Normalfags take pride in being call weebs now like its some kind of medal.

>look at me im such a weeb haha
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>>154584475
And then industry 4.0 will bury it for good, once the anime industry can use it to get rid of all their superfluous inbetweeners in Japan and South-East Asia.
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>>154584204
And it's mostly Korea, China and Taiwan
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>>154575191
One generation grew up watching anime on TV.
But now that morning cartoons aren't a thing anymore, you can forget about seeing young weebs in the future.
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>>154584337
>You don't know the true meaning of weeb like I do

I bet your won of those kids who think they are superior anime fans because they watched toonami
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>>154572748
Asians love to gamble, and pachinko is the only way to do it legally in Japan as far as I know.
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Anime should only be supported by Japan.
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>>154584649
Cultural nationalism is the only way to go.
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>>154584649
And throw away 600 billion yen? No way, José.
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>>154584649
>Anime should only be supported by China.

ftfy
>>
CHING CHONG CHING CHING CHANG CHONG CHING CHONG
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>>154580810
>more Thunderbolt Fantasy
good
>less LWA
I don't get it. How they related?
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>>154584595
I never said anything else. Yet it's streaming that keeps the industry afloat.
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>>154584643
Why can't you accept that you don't know everything? Why do you have to make a fool of yourself?
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>>154573353
Everyone hates the chinese.
They're awful tourists, buy up land like no tomorrow, and their culture is garbage. And if you ever talk to one, you can tell there's something missing in their heads. That's just the mainlanders though.
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>>154573874
But they're number 1 in the West though (Anglosphere + Europe), yes?
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>>154584634
it somehow feels like as time went by, TV as an entertainment gained more competitors for their audience's availability, such as video games, computers (as they became more accessible and internet connection improved), streaming services, besides movie theaters (don't know if this one grew or shrunk over time).

Newer otaku very likely aren't focused on TV as much as older ones, so manga/anime has to reach them where they go to.
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>>154585237
I don't see any difference. You can say
>They're awful tourists, buy up land like no tomorrow, and their culture is garbage. And if you ever talk to one, you can tell there's something missing in their heads. That's just the mainlanders though.
about US people too. You don't even have culture compared to ching chongs
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>>154585774

Uh oh, looks like Tang's feathers got a little rustled!
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>>154585865
US culture is garbage and your tourists are awful. It's truth and I not even chink.
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>>154585237
Sounds like burgers to me.
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>>154574168
>I hrd d manga its epic with a lot of politics, badass fights, blood and all buh dey had to censor some of it in d anime.
>buh dey had to censor some of it in d anime.
I love this, I wish we used "d" and "dey" here too.
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>>154572364

>In English.

Excuse me?
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>>154573499
Because they don't sell at all since that music isn't mainstream.
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>>154586770
Some do well with mainstream audience, like Nana for example.
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>>154586913
>like Nana for example.
Literally, the only solo artist that does well with mainstream audience in this industry. She is the exception, not the rule.
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>>154584649
This.
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>>154587581
Perhaps it should, but the nip producers are not going to say no to the 583.3 billion yen from chink gaijins, gook gaijins, burger gaijins and yuropoor gaijins.
Especially the nip producers who own the electronic distribution rights to both domestic and overseas market.
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>>154588133
Well at least the west is an infinitesimally small percentile in that metric. I'd rather have China be the primary foreign market than anyone else.
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>>154588205
Really? I think I would prefer anime targeted toward the West instead of anime targeted toward chinks. I bet it's going to be a lot of low-effort wish-fulfillment crap, set in Shangai or Beijing with unpronounceable names and references to the Three Kingdoms.
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>>154588523
No need to fear. Even if the burgers are only 2nd place behind Theoretically Communist China, that still makes them infinitely more valuable than the rest of South-East Asia and Europe, and thus a market worth pandering too as well.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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