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What are everyone's thoughts on the Buu vs Basil fight?

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What are everyone's thoughts on the Buu vs Basil fight? I wish we got to see more of Buu's arsenal, but overall it was an interesting first round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ3oYaywIVY
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>>153672923
It was dumb as shit and Basil looks like he stepped out from an edgelords furry fanfic.

Zero imagination in the fight itself with cookie cutter blasts and braindead flurries of kicks and punches repeated over and over again.

The entire tournament is gonna be a copy paste of this shit fest up until goku gets a competently animated fight sequence with a big bad.
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Bring back super buu for shits and giggles
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I loved it.
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Watching Buu smoke him was fantastic.
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>>153672923

>no teapot sound effect when Buu gets mad

FUCKING DROPPED.
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>>153673266
Do people not understand Super Buu is a manifestation of Buu's evil side? The side that died at the end of Dragon Ball Z?
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>>153673467

Actionfags only want to see 'muh edge' fights. Ironically, I found Super Buu the most goofy of the three iterations. Fat Buu kinda creeped me out when he opened his eyes and deepened his voice. He was like a fat version of Lennie from Of Mice & Men.

Retard strength was real on this fight though.
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>>153673266
Fat Buu's personality with Super Buu's outer appearance would be pretty sweet actually
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Glad to see he wasn't the designated jobber which means Gohan is fucked.
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>>153674946
Yeah I can see it now
>Buu wins
>Gohan fights his best but jobs
>Goku steps in and wins the tournament.
Sick of this shit.
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>>153676643
what more did you expect from this shitty anime?
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>>153673436
>Dubfags
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Gohan will do really well in his fight once he gets his fighting spirit back and it will like he could actually win this, only to lose in the end because the wolf does something that could be called cheating/unfair.

There is no way it won't happen.
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Who will take care off Buu once Mr.Satan dies of old age? Pan-chan?
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WHEN
I'm just waiting and excited for him!

I'd love to see his character here.
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Lewds when?
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>>153677237

>implying

It was in the original you retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKq0cw2s9YI
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>>153674946
>>153677293
Keep crying Cuckhanfags
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Since the beginning of this arc, is it just me or the animation got better?
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>>153677316
Give it at least 5 more chapters.
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>>153677334

I want her to end every sentence with 'kashira.'
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https://youtu.be/iZdzOsBKhR4?t=3m48s

Why doesn't Nozawa use this tone of voice for Goku all the time?
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>>153677316
We still have 3 episodes of Gohan fight, Goku will clear his fight in one episode probably

Then the real tournament is announced and they have to gather fighters

so 4-5 weeks at least
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>>153677265
>tracing?
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Why the fuck did the original post get deleted?
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>>153677421
>Lorax erased the ki blast
Is he going to be the best thing his universe can offer?
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>>153677334
I prefer Cleopatra of Destruction, those lips mang
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>>153677480
Did he erase it with Hakai or did he absorb it

seems weird if he can Hakai when he is not a GoD yet
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>>153677480
Of course not, since the gray alien has more focus in the marketing and opening.
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>>153677524
he crushed it
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>yfw "youre strong but Buu is stronger"
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so who is the strongest basil can beat? cell maybe
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>>153677715
feels wrong
should be saibaman or some shit
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>>153677715
Gohan
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>>153672923
I thought Buu was going to lose so I was pleasantly surprised at least. Animation could be a little better but they're probably saving time to work on more important fights.
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>>153677759
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>>153677370
its just you
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>>153677778
>probably saving time to work on more important fights.
This never happens
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can 23rd tournament chi chi beat general blue?
what would have happened if she was paired with piccolo?
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>>153677823
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>>153673698

Its about Buu being trickery and smart as Super Buu.

If they wanted edge they would go for Kid Buu.

Obviously.
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>>153677715
I feel like fighting Buu makes it tough to gauge how strong someone is. If you aren't familiar with his regeneration you'll probably get fucked even if you're a bit stronger than him.
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>>153677823
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>>153677823
Goku is a ningen, so that's already one thing wrong
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>>153677842
But it's exactly what happened in the U6 tournament and Zamasu arc
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>>153677715
He's maybe SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta tier or so unless there's some power inflation.
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dem angels man
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>>153677877
How do you even kill Buu? Serious question. I mean Kid Buu dying to the Spirit Bomb makes sense but Fat Buu/Mr. Buu, the best you could do is seal him away right?
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>>153677480
>lorax
the kaioshin clearly called him toppo, wtf is this lorax shit?

also, what's with this pride patrol shit, are they a bunch of gay superheroes?
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Watching Super right now I'm a bit confused, so past Zamasu killed the grand kai in a alternate past timeline or something, then went into the future timeline? Because Beerus clearly killed him.
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why is the supremekai of universe 9 so savage?
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>>153678082
>he doesn't know who Lorax is
Ningen
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>Gohan doesn't even use Piccolo's fighting stance
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>>153678082
>wtf is this lorax shit?
He looks like a Lorax.
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>>153678082
>doesn't know what the lorax is
>didn't even use basic internet skills to look it up
Holy shit, you turboningen
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>>153678123
He stopped using that stance after he trained with the Kai's right?
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>>153678048
Just kamehameha/ki blast him untill there is nothing left ala cell.
During the vegito fight Buu started to regenerate slower at the end of the fight, so if you beat him down long enough he will die eventually.
I am not sure if that was a dub/anime only thing though.
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I was hoping he'd turn him into chocolate
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>>153676643
This isnt a tournament fight.
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>>153678110
What is this face trying to convey?
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>furries in my dragon ball
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>>153678212
>I shouldn't have dropped so much acid.
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can saiyaman saga videl beat tao pai pai?
Who will vegeta job to? tumblr chan? Lorax? Ayy? Hit again?
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>>153678212
>>153678110
BUCKLEY YOURE AN ANGEL
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>>153678188
>Just kamehameha/ki blast him untill there is nothing left ala cell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7C0R3DdOfk
I mean i would argue Vegeta did something way stronger and Buu just came back.
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>>153678246
>tumblr chan?
He was only SSJ at that trailer, so probably not
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>>153672923

Better than most Gintama fights they had this season.
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>>153672923

I enjoyed it a lot.
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>>153678082
>wtf is this lorax shit?

lel
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>YFW you wish immortality
>YFW it works so well that when they destroy your body you start corrupting reality
>YFW Zeno just erases reality
>YFW you still cant die so now you take over Zeno
>YFW Goku shows up and takes you back to his timeline where you influence past zeno in order to destroy the planets of filthy mortals, call it a game
>YFW Goku shows up and asks for a universal tournament giving you the perfect excuse to just wipe out whole universes at once
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Super has some bad writing man, how did Goku Black kill all the other gods before even achieving Super Saiyen Rose? And there's no way he could kill Zen-oh
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>>153678272
He just wasn't strong enough to completely obliterate him.
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>>153678381
goku is a menace
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>>153678430
she is kinda beautiful
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>>153678430
I think that supreme kai is a girl.
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>>153677877
Current Buu is actually the weakest of all the Buus.

I'd put Basil around SSJ2 Gohan Tier.
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>>153678212
based stoner angel being stoned, nothing more nothing less
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>>153678430
Most popular of the new angels on pixiv.
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>>153678430
that forehead
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>>153678430
What's up with the Clowns' lips?
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>>153678461
The Kai chick is okay the angel has a four times four times forehead and there is something wrong with her eyes.
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>>153678101
He killed the Kai in timeline 3(the same timeline the show takes place in) then stole Goku's body became Black and went to timeline 2(future trunk's time line). When they found out what really happened Beerus killed him in timeline 3 before him killing the Kai. It wasn't really explained but I assume the fact he was wearing a time ring some how prevented the events of Zamatsu/Black going to future trunks timeline from being erased.
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majin buu is actually immortal considering how much regen is has. Look at kid buu. He was blowing himself up and regenerating for fun
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>>153678497
yes. she has like 4 images.
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>>153672923
It's been pretty long since someone else gets to beat an enemy in the Saiyan show. That alone is refreshing.
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>>153672923
At least Buu isn't a jobber like Gohan.
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>>153678422
He killed the Kais, which kills the Gods. All he would have to do is Kai-Kai, say some bullshit ab out he's investigating and then blind side them.

Also not like he was ever going to fight Zeno anyways. Zeno doesn't give two shits about anything.
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>>153678522
3 more than him
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>>153678422
>how did Goku Black kill all the other gods before even achieving Super Saiyen Rose?
Kaioshins arent really that strong.
>>153678454
He was in better condition than Gohan vs Cell. Remember how Buu came back after that , fucker literally came back from thin air. I dont think Buu work on a biological level but on a magic one.
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>>153677299
Uub.
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>>153678491
>When 17 smoked so much Park Ranger Weed that he transcends Kaidom
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>>153678520
That makes a little more sense thanks, so timeline 3 went on like they had never gone to the future until trunks future trunks fucked with time and went back basically.
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>>153677299
Remember when Satan was shot? Evil Boo will take care of everything.
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>>153678542
Thanks, good explanation. Forgot that he could just blindside them ad that killing the weak kais also killed the gods.
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>>153678553
he can turn back into smoke and regenerate from it.

He has some kind of unstated stamina limit after which he starts not being able to regenerate, but he's effectively created as a Kaioshin killer by Babidi older self.
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>>153678598
Implying they aren't going to fuse.
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>>153678591
>when you're hit the bong so hard you start seeing dwarfes and elves.
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>>153678652
Booten would be too strong!
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>>153678430

She looks more like Margot Robbie than being Vados sister.

Were they trying to draw her in a DC style?
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>>153677299
can't he just wish to become younger like pilaf's gang?
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>>153678497
Let me guess: Loliangel is second.
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>>153678430
I want to rub my dick at her forehead.
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Who would be stronger, assuming the two were at equal power, Cell or Buu?

I'd argue Cell is since is considering his Saiyan genetics, if Buu vaporized him and he managed to survive, his regeneration is just as fast if not faster at times, and he'd get a power increase.

In fact, had Cell trained for a week instead of standing there, would anybody have been able to stop him, what with Frieza's DNA and the Saiyan DNA in him?
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>>153678110
>>153678591
Wonder if the drugs will wear off before Zeno gets bored of U9 and destroys it.
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>>153678650
I agree with you that beating down Buu until his regen doesnt work anymore is one way, but would that get rid of him for good? Kid Buu didnt suffer from this in his 3/4 fights.
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>>153677299
Buu reads a romance/porno novel and decides to create his own family.
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>>153678707
Post em if you got em.
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>>153673219
This

Also
>rage powerup
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>>153678707
Fun fact: The furries got more art than all new angels combined.
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>>153678741
If Cell actually bothered with anything, he'd be unstoppable.
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>>153678741
>would anybody have been able to stop him, what with Frieza's DNA and the Saiyan DNA in him?
No, he was perfection. I think he would have hit a hard limit on the zenki boost but yah if he trained Cell could have been anything.
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>>153678786
This image and >>153678047 are the only ones with her yet.

This means she is second place with the fat angel from universe 1 in third because he has 1 whole image.
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>>153678762
Why did you enter those scrubs in I was high as balls when I suggested we use the dogs!
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>>153678491
Any relation?
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>>153678838
That's sorta why I was so bummed that Gohan Super Columbined 2 all the Jrs.
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>>153678849
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>buu doesnt do any wacky cartoon shit and just uses generic blasts and rubbery stuff

why
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>>153678850
Looks like that angel pressed the hounds button and instead we got 3 wolf people
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>>153678741
buu turns him into a cookie. the end
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>>153678931
The look on her face and placement of the staff.
>She just discovered what the vibrating function of her staff is for.
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>>153673266
Only people with shitty taste want that.
Fat Buu is far more entertaining than Super Buu or Kid Buu.
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Buu should use his healing beam to fix Gohan's eyes. :^)
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>>153678707
>loliangel
>implying she isn't Whis's mom and the Grand Priest's wife
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How hard are they going to make Gohan job for next couple of episodes? I'm not trying to start shit, I'm just know going by DBS's track record, he will have SOME amount of jobbing done.
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>>153678959

Since when is rubbery stuff not wacky cartoon shit?
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>>153678959
they've run out of creativity
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It was too short i prefer the old n-episodes fights.
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>>153678741
Nobody could stop Cell
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twintails already got r34'd.
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>>153679027
He won't. U7 will have a clean sweep and Zeno will destroy U9 as punishment.

Gohan jobs in the tournament proper at full power for max Gohanfag tears.
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Anyone know what the form Trunks takes in episode 62 while fighting Goku Black is called? And it's just as powerful as SSB right?
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>>153678995

Its obvious the fat Angel is Daishinkans wife.
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>>153678959
What? But stuff like being hit and them his legs stretching without his feet moving is pretty much "wacky cartoon shit".
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>>153679027
no you dumb dumb, this is a shounen, by its rules when you have someone declaring theyll kill the heroes the hero cant actually be killed during the match.

Gohan is going to be on the losing side up until midways ( due to the blinding poison) then he will unlock his dormant power again as he is about to lose, Old Kai is even there to serve as narration for the viewers about the time he performed the unlock on him and how monstrous gohan was.
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>>153673219
>Zero imagination in the fight itself with cookie cutter blasts and braindead flurries of kicks and punches repeated over and over again.
Wait for the manga.
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>>153679027
>How hard are they going to make Gohan job for next couple of episodes?
Probably very hard, given that Gohan pretty much only exists to job now.
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>>153677370
I think the soft background colors of Zen-O's realm work well with the bold character lines. So it looks better without actually being better.
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>>153672923
>Doesn't peel off his buu swings it around

Isn't it just another case of amnesia? At least he remembers that Buu gets mad when Satan is hurt but I think he forgot the part that Buu getting mad isn't suppose to be a Steam blowing power up.
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>>153679027
I'd be surprised goku is the one who actually jobs in this fight.
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>>153678430
so thats what happens to jessica if you don't marry her
looks like she done good for herself
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>>153679117
超サイヤ人怒り: Super Saiyan Wrath
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>>153679197
Neat appreciate it. Appropriate name for the guy who has literally seen the apocalypse twice.
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>>153678741
Cell's zenkai from blowing himself up didn't even power him up that much
He was basically just below ss2 before, then just at ss2 after.
Cell would need to do a lot of recoveries to get up strong enough to even match buu.
Cell may be smart, but most of his techniques are worthless on buu.
The disks, piccolo's beam, all largely useless. He could blow himself up in hopes of destroying buu, but that wouldn't work, as vegeta knows.
Lastly, he's got a ton of stamina, but it IS limited.
After a certain point, buu would just eat him.
>Cell gets worn down, decides to create cell jrs to ambush buu
>Buu makes buu jrs
>The buu jrs absorb the cell jrs and return to buu
>Buu now knows IT, and all of cell's tricks
>Cell can't land a hit anymore, starts going rage mode
>Buu tanks it and smiles
>Buu turns cell into candy and eats him
There's just no way it doesn't end in a buu win.
In fact, has buu ever lost to anyone other than buu and beerus?
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>>153679172
>>153679106
>>153679163
>>153679183
Well, I think in some way he'll end up losing in the exhibition match, but maybe he'll get a break during the actual tournament. I forgot, isn't there a spoiler episode summary about him becoming ultimate Gohan at one point in the future?
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>>153672923
>Buu didn't job
Great.
>Gohan is up next
So what are the chances Gohan wins anyway? Given that this is a Zen-Oh exhibition match, we might see all three matches even though the winner of the best of three series is known after the second match.
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>>153679117
Dude Fused Zamasu was dragging around a corpse at that point he had to have been weaker then he was before.
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why the fuck is Buu immortal?
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who's he gonna fight first
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Make buu great again
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>>153679117
Super Saiyan Ikari - usually translated as Super Saiyan Rage, but some people go with "anger" due to it being labelled as "SSA" in the Heroes site file names.
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>>153679183
>Goku losing vs a furry
Even toriyama is not imbecile enough to let toei do that.
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>>153679232
>In fact, has buu ever lost to anyone other than buu and beerus?
If we are just talking about Buu/Mr.Buu then Beerus and Kid Buu/
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>>153677429
Fighting styles are tracing now?
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>>153679298
chad version of Buu desu
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Something about the Grand Priest feels evil.

Like the holy kind of evil Zamasu wanted to be but with a shitton more of experience.
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>>153679309
Right, i thought so.
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>>153679296
I'm betting his protege will be Ayy Lmao. Ayy is just too prominent in the opening
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>>153679296
I thought Hit was gonna lose to Ayy to show how strong Ayy is, but maybe Hit will get taken out by Lorax instead.
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>>153679306
why not? I just want someone to punch goku in the fucking face.
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>>153679345
>Something about the Grand Priest feels evil.
He's doing his job. Reason why it seems of is because he has no opinion for whatever Zeno comes up with. Zeno is the real threat.
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>>153679296
Gohan.
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>>153679232
Cell would from getting ass-blasted by SSJ2 Gohan to smacking SSJ2 Gohan around more easily.

Its better to say he went from FP SSJ to ASSJ2. Cell only got overcome thanks to Vegeta distracting him.
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>>153679263
Gohan has about 80% odds of winning hard, there never was a tention about winning the most matches as that's not what this crazy ass thunderdome shit is about. Its about sating the bloodlust of two children who don't respect the lives of anything.
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Furry Brothers could defeat Namek saga Frieza.
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>>153679345
Note that ever since this arc started we've got no first person monologues from Whis at all, and none of the angels seem to react to the stuff about destroying universes, even though previously they've been shown surprised at times.

Also, note how the only time Whis stopped Goku from talking with Zen'o was when Goku said he'd ask him to not blow up the universes.

I'm pretty sure he's planning something. Maybe if the universes are destroyed Zen'o power is lessened and so the grand priest can take over or something like that.
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>>153679393
Yeah, through Zeno is evil in a toddler kind of way. There is probably just no way to oppose him so the Grand Priest gave up and just tries to keep him happy.
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>>153679449
depending on how strong they were 15 years ago.
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>>153679345
He's mad Zeno killed six of his children and has been plotting his revenge. He hopes to turn Future Zeno and Zeno against each other during the tournament and have them kill each other off.
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>>153679027
gohan should job this round so it inspires him to get serious about training

unless the wolf guys aren't going to be on the universe 9 team
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>>153679459
>>153679393
>>153679345
Lets be honest, the dude might be a far better universe ruler than Zeno, who is just pure power.
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>>153672923
I want to see Gohan die. Not because I hate him, but because I want Goku to see what happens when you play with life.
He'd have to explain it to Videl, too.
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>>153678212
The Rock says he's gonna take your little CD, dust it off, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your candy ass!
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>>153679512
Gohan already got srs with his training.
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>>153679459
Its likely that the universes Zeno plans to destroy arent the real thing but instead those balls he was playing with. And no one says a shit because they want everyone to fight thinking there will be consequences to losing.
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>>153677265
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>>153673266
Isn't that Uub?
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>>153679596
Dat sexual tension between Pan and his grandpa
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>>153679592
oh nvm then, the wolves should all job and get kicked off the team
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>>153679596
GT>Super
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>>153677886
He licked a man to death.
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>>153679537
Angels are in job mode right now, they know shit is going down and at this moment they are acting as they should. Oversee the GoD etc. The GoDs/Kaioshins are nervous as shit since everything is on the line for them.
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Gohan's face looked blank enough to exploit it.
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>>153679677
We got a good one last thread.
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>>153679537
Also Goku cant fight Fem-Broly, he has a policy on fighting women. He doesnt.
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>>153673467

It was the evil side taking more control, but it wasn't 100% evil. And the current Buu doesn't seem to be 100% good anyway. They even speculated about another evil Buu appearing at the end of the Buu Saga. There must be a way to allow the good side to stay in control without the power reduction caused by Dai Kaioshin.
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Seriously though, acid, weed of mushrooms?
My vote is for all three of them, that angel is just so fly with everything that's going on
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>>153679780
All that would need to happen is Mr Satan trains Buu on the basics of fighting.
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>>153679761
Vegeta will fight and he'll do goofy faces when she tries to come on to him.

Or 18 will fight all the women combatants, whichever.
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>>153679862
Plot Twist

Molly
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If Gohan jobs again, im done with Super
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>>153679761
>"FemBroly? I dont want to tell you how to be the Legendary Female Super Saiyan, but you are not supposed to start all out, you are supposed to start slow and then work up to it."
>"I am starting slow."
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>>153677842
you're actually very wrong lol
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>>153679761
Gohan will fight her and job to her, then she will fall in love with gohan for being the weakest saiyan as she is a dom.

That or Gohan just jobs, well whatever happens gohan will job.
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>>153679940
That loss may or may not be what makes him go serious mode, though. For real, this time.
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Why is the OP missing "Dragon Ball Super" title? Fucking retard, now we have two separate threads going right now.
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>>153679940
but someone has to job and it's not going to be Buu or Goku
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>>153679996
Kek. I'd actually prefer if he keeps jobbing at this point, it's to much of a meme now.
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>>153679658
>anon posting facts
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>>153677842
We just had that in the last arc. Super Saiyan Rose + Zamasu's debut tag battle and and Vegeto/Sword trunks vs Fused Zamasu all clearly received more attention than other episodes. Of course that doesn't work out every time (with the episode right after Super Saiyan Rage's debut, where it first fought for real, having pretty bad animation).
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>Tien's turn
>Turns out King Kai taught him Kaioken this whole time
>Never got a chance to use it because the Cell Jrs knocked him out before while Super Buu knocked him out the second time
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>>153679940
That's retarded. It's like saying "If Goku is still the main character, I'm done with Super." Just stop watching now.
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>>153679940
you never started watching it
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>>153679940
cya lmao
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The Dragon Ball Super mythology is really weird. The highest force in existence is some weird little midget kid who doesn't seem to have any role in existence other than to be served and blow things up for no reason, he doesn't even seem to have the mental capacity to have set up the cosmic order himself. Who even made the Kais and Angels and Gods of Destruction?
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>>153680115
>Kaioken plus 4 arms plus more tiens
>TriKai Beam
Nice
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>>153680115
He might have done some damage with his super tribeam if he paired with a high kaioken multiplier. Instead he ended up doing nothing but stalling.
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>>153673436
This. I was waiting for that shit.
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>>153680194
I suspect the Grand Priest is the true head guy. He's always talking on Zenos behalf like he's too retarded to speak for himself
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>>153678988
Fat buu is annoying and need Satan to tell him to do everything

Fit Buu is smug
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>>153680115
I'd love that actually. I always wondered why King Kai never taught it to them in the first place.
>>153680194
Probably his father. The King's Calendar was only 8.6 mil years. So unless the Dragon Ball universe is far far far younger than our own, there had to have been someone before Zeno.
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>>153680194
>he doesn't even seem to have the mental capacity to have set up the cosmic order himself.
That's anime zeno. Manga Zeno is just chill as fuck.
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>>153678591
>how about I slap your shit
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>>153673436
I made it with my own voice instead
Toei is shit anyway
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>>153680194
He's a stand in for the audience, an untouchable author behind the scenes who can instantly create or destroy anything "as long as its fun". If you're boring he'll delete you, can create anything, but gets bored easily. As long as you placate him he's fine and won't bother anything.

He gets off to fights, wants more fights, and when he heard about a tournament between everyone to the death he lept at the idea.

Not even, but he represents a DBZ fan except less edgy. Alternatively he's the author.

If you expected a super duper serious character to be the highest existence then you don't know shit about Toriyama.
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>>153679940
You do realize each character gets to fight multiple times, right? Gohan will will the next match.

>>153680115
This would be actually pretty sweet. All that mountain training will have him achieve a level of Kaioken that not even Goku could hit.
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>>153680312
Someone should edit that
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>>153680194
caring about this means you missed the point
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>>153677316
I bet his introduction will be shit, like Mirai Trunks and 18
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>>153679677
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>>153680194
>Who even made the Kais and Angels and Gods of Destruction?
Zeno, just because he acts like a kid doesnt mean he doesnt have the capacity to create a system that practically runs itself.

Make a high Angel, tell this Angel to Make other Angels. Tell those Angel there needs to be a balance for life and death in the universes. Kaioshin are made not by Angels but from the product of creating a universe,. Those Kaioshin are made aware of their role thus a GoD is seeked out etc.
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>>153680194
What if he got so bored he turned himself to a child.
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>>153680329
>Not even, but he represents a DBZ fan except less edgy.
Now imagine how shit he'd be if he was as edgy as the average DBZ fan. On the upside though his Mangastream voice would work well for such a character.
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>>153680431
That is way to logical and cool to be the case.
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>>153679940
Gohanfag here. I'll be surprised if he doesn't job. It seems like they're still playing up that he's rusty. I expect he'll probably job in the practice round and then train seriously in preparation for the tournament.

Gohan is lazy shit when he is unprepared for the villain (see Buu arc and RoF arc) but when he knows what's coming and has time to prepare, he can be a debatable MVP (see Saiyan arc and Cell). In the case of the actual tournament, he knows it's coming and he'll have time to prepare.
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>>153677316
>17/18 Tag match
>Sadistic Dance happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcW7LvBWtMA

Toei make this shit happen.
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>>153677427
Gohan's fight better last one episode. The zeno are excited in the preview.
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>>153680577
>thinking toei will do anything fans want to see
KEK, toeifags are delusional.
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What's his endgame?
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>>153678082
He speaks for the trees
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>>153680705
save existence from a moody and brattish god
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>>153680701
I mean they have done wonders for Vegeta so i'm pleased.
>>153680705
Doing his fucking job.
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>>153677715
He'd probably struggle to beat final form namek frieza.

Pre power up item, he didnt display nothing super impressive because Buu let him throw him around.
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>>153680700
The synopsis previews of upcoming episodes already confirm the Gohan fight lasts at least two episodes
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>>153680329
>If you expected a super duper serious character to be the highest existence then you don't know shit about Toriyama.
I expected him to be silly and weird, like King Kai, sure. Gods don't need to be super duper serious. But I didn't expect a child retard who destroys his own universes as part of a game. This is beyond what we've seen before.
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>>153680705
To take the role as the protagonist once Goku falls into corruption.
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I thought it was pretty good.

During the Cell games, they had to be careful not to destroy the planet. During the Buu Saga, almost everyone and everything and multiple planets got obliterated. Beerus came and the entire universe was in jeopardy.

Since then, it's been pretty tame. Freiza came and a bunch of rocks and some land got destroyed. We can give the first tournament arc a pass. In the Goku Black arc, everyone got more powerful and just a bunch of buildings were destroyed. Future Trunks, who is now unfathomably more powerful than Super Vegeta, did a Final Flash and burned a little bit of ground. Even Vegeto Blue vs fused Zamasu didn't seem to do squat in terms of destruction, other than make a small hole in the ground.

It was nice being reminded what these guys can actually do when they're not being held back by the animation budget.

That explosion near the end was completely unnecessary though. Felt like they threw it in for the sake of having an explosion. A good ol' V-shaped crater would have been sufficient.
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>>153680783
gay
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>universe 7 sweeps this fucking exhibition match and they dont they dont even have their second strongest fighter

Other GoDs except clown and champa will be scared as fuq
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>>153680705

Getting paid, going home and making more angels.
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>>153679677
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>>153680705
How much for one wild lust filled night with him?
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>>153680848
but the other gods will know what they can do and probably try to train some fighters
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>>153680789
>This is beyond what we've seen before.
Have you even read early DB or Dr.Slump? Toriyama goes out of his way to make things silly or jokeish, he doesn't really care for serious muscle designs if he can help it. Final villain of the manga was a fat bubblegum retard monster.

He's originally a gag manga creator. He likes that rule of contrast when super high position guy is actually silly or strange somehow.
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>>153680848
>Universes are luckily saved from erasure in the end
>They see how strong Androids and Saiyans really are
>Begin trying to artificially create them to take revenge on U7
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>>153678270
hahaha
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>>153680783
Oh fuck. I've got the feeling they'll drag out a lot of stuff in this arc.
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How is it fair that the other universes can see the fighting style of universe 7 and 11? They shouldn't be there.
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>>153680848
>second strongest
you mean first

Vegeta is the prince of all saiyans and will beat Toppo.
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>>153680992
This is probably anime only stuff so meh.

Its all as Zenno wishes. Doesnt matter.
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>>153680992
God really suck at making fair tournaments. I cringed when Champa decided to change the rules halfway in.
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>>153680992
this is precisely so they know what level of fighting performance is expected of them.
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>>153680994
Why does he still call himself the prince when his dad is dead?
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>>153680992
Because F. Zeno really wanted to see how Goku fought.

The planets they were destroying were probably from U9 and it was going to be destroyed anyways.

Remember they did ask "Why Universe 9?" The Zenos just want to see them fight before they destroy them.
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>Can't sense his energy
>Random electricity after the Buu kamehameha
Is Basil a robot?
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>>153681098
You have to be coronated to be a king or invade land while declaring yourself one
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>>153679677
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>>153681129
He's a God.
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>>153678270
underrated
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Will he get a power boost?
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>>153679677
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>>153680864
>You were expecting a good fighter, but its was me, Gohan!
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http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/27/new-interview-translations-akira-toriyama-special-talks/

>...At any rate, I wanted him to have the sense of being that rare guy who seeks only “to become stronger than before”, so much so that it feels like “there’s no one as pure as this person”. And while he does end up saving everyone as a result of that, he himself at least has a very pure sincerity about “wanting to become stronger”. What I wanted to depict the most was the sense that he might not be a good guy at all, although he does do good things as a result.

I understand him being annoyed with stuff like "ALLY TO GOOD NIGHTMARE TO YOU" but isn't he taking this a bit far? Goku wasn't damaged by the Devilmite Beam attack.
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>>153681329
he isn't evil just selfish
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>>153681213
But the electricity happened after the attack, like he was a malfunctioning machine
Is every member of the Dingo Trio a robot?
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>>153681329
Kakarot has always been a Saiyan, always will. He never lost his memories, he's just playing the long con. Getting rid of the useless Saiyans like Raditz and Nappa. He's building an Empire slowly.

Nothing shall stop Kakarot the Battle Drunk.
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>>153681430
Only Cicadas, Mimes, Frankensteins, and Humans are allowed to be Robots.
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>>153681430
sure, Trio the Robots, why the fuck not at this point
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>>153679677
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>>153681329
I think you're misinterpreting it.
He's saying goku just has an honest drive to fight abd become stronger, and often times his good morality leads him into fights, but sometimes he doesn't make the right moral choice because he wants to fight.
He let vegeta go, he let frieza go, he avoided stopping the androids before they were made, he let cell fight gohan, he wasted time fighting majin vegeta

Goku makes bad moral choices all the time. He's not really a good guy, just a regular guy that loves to fight.
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>>153681098
Cause his land is gone
You're a prince by birth, but a king must have a land to rule
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>>153679677
Leave this to the Champ's son-in-law
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>>153680203
>>Kaioken plus 4 arms plus more tiens
>>TriKai Beam
Followed up with
>Instantly dies
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>>153681495
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>>153680789
Reminder that if Toriyama had his way, the villains of the Android/Cell sagas would have been
>An old man
>A fat clown
>A bug
>A bug with dick sucking lips
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>>153681572
>implying Tienshinhan hasnt mastered the art of sapping away life force with each TriKaiBeam attack
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>>153681650
I wouldn't mind, I don't like perfect Cell.
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>>153681650
>>A bug with dick sucking lips
Dick sucking lips Cell did nothing wrong, and if any complain, tell that to Toriyama because that's his favorite Cell.
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>STRG + F 'shit'
>33 hits

I swear to god anyone watching this trash should just kill himself
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>>153681650
He was gonna stop at 17/18 too

Cell's first form would've been fine imo, had a nice creepy factor
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>>153679677
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>>153681820
I dropped it a few months ago, but I read the manga.
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>>153679677
>mfw more furries in my DB OwO
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>Universes are wiped out
>The universes send warriors into U7 to destroy it before they are wiped out
>Goku is hunted down again a la androids Saga
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>>153681954
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>>153681808
I thought his favorite Cell was Bug Cell?
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Was this the best moment in the whole DBS?
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>>153682015
Took me a second to recognize his worse-anime appearance, but fuck you all the same
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Got milk?
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>>153682047
He said in an interview that "dick sucking lips" form is his favorite.
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So how hard is Gohan gonna job next episode?
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>>153680705
Here's a quick rundown
>Zeno's bow to Daishinkan
>In contact with Gods of Destruction
>Possess top 5 battle power
>Controls the multiverse with an iron but fair fist
>Owns Zamasu's no ningen cabins and Frost's banks
>Direct descendants of the ancient godly blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in Universe 13 (Daishingrad will be be the first city)
>Owns 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Daishinkan angels
>Daishinkan and his children all said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Martial Arts Schools & Red Ribbon Headquarters
>Ancient Namekian scriptures tell of 13 angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented godly ki powerups with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the multiverse
>You likely have Daishinbots inside you right now
>Daishinkan is in regular communication with Dragon God Zarama, forwarding the word of the God to the Supreme Kais and Gods of Destruction. Who do you think set up the meeting between Shin & Beerus (First meeting between the two Gods in over 1000 years) and arranged the Supreme Kai's first trip to Beerus' planet in history literally a few days later to the Daishinoff bunker in a future timeline?
>he learned fluent Namekian in under a week
>Nation worlds entrust their gold reserves with him. There's no gold at Capsule Corp, only Ft. Dai
>he is about 7 trillion decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.
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>>153682082
>fan art became true
Those ningens never change
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>>153682103
I'm sorry, I had to.
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>>153682151
Will never be funny
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>>153682082
Gohan losing the upcoming fight will be the best episode.
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>>153679677
ZAMASU
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>>153682082
Yes
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>>153681901
I can respect that, it's much better and less of a time investment.
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>>153682190
If he loses to moonshine furry, the Gohan fags will probably commit mass suicide.

>Muh muh strongest unfused character
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>>153682082
I liked this one.
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>>153678906
My exact same thoughts
Good taste anon
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>>153677778
This is said every single anime with lacking animation.
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>>153682173
It's a serious rundown
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>>153679677
>Job me harder Lavenda-San!
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Face it, Gohan's jobbing and jobbing HARD.
Unless you think Goku's going to job to his foe, which protagonist power will never let him, U7 can't and won't take all 3 victories. So one character needs to lose- hence, Gohan's here.
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>>153682082
Goku's backhand to Zamasu has been my favorite moment so far
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>>153677316

Trucks and Goten are stronger than 17 and 18 at this point of the story, should have taken them instead. Wait.... are Krillin and Tien stronger than 17 and 18? Should have left those two behind instead.
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>>153682228
>i-it's still all part of his redemption arc he'll be so badass next time
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Does 2ch still spams shota if we try to talk about DB there?
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GOHAN WON'T JOB. IT'S GOING TO BE A TIE. A TIE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153682417

Why do they do that?
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What the fuck is your guys problem? What is the obsession with Gohan losing on this board? Is it really hate? Is it envy? Are you all really jealous at the fact that Gohan is a successful scholar with a beautiful wife and kid while you are fat, autistic virgins? I can almost smell the cheeto dust as you retards vigorously type "haha gohan is going to le job". Gohan is popular, people love him, get the fuck over it. Fuck you all.
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Who is Saiyan Yamcha?

Raditz or Gohan? Raditz at last conquered a few planets assuredly.
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>>153682082
Personal favorite was Vegito punching out Zamasu in the middle of his umpteenth "muh ningen" monologue.
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>>153680421
you can't just put Chaika's face on everything
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>>153682362
It's an EXHIBITION MATCH

There are literally zero stakes so there is no winner or loser for best two of three.
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>>153682466
Honestly I love Gohan, granted he has more boring moments than he does sheer awesome (primarily SSJ2 vs. Cell and Mystic vs. Super Buu) and he does get to bang the fuck out of Videl and have Pan as a daughter.

Good for him. But it pisses people who are diehard fans for Gohan off so much, that and honestly, he's entering Yamcha meme territory and its cracking me up, I love it.

Also F. Gohan > Gohan.
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>>153682466
No, it's the hate towards Gohanfags, who take every second that Gohan isn't fighting/being treated as the strongest person ever as a personal attack, that leads people to root for Gohan to job. Seriously, Gohanfags are the worst, and calling for his loss is just cathartic to all the bullshit Gohan hype.
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>>153682466
It's not hate, it's just post cell Gohan has always jobbed. Even when he had the upper hand against Super Buu he still jobs
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>>153682466
Because Gohan became a normie. Good job, loving wife, beautiful child. He worked hard to accomplish what he gained.

They can't self insert like with Goku, the jobless idiot who everyone loves for no reason and everything always works out for him.

Gohan is a working mans favorite. Goku is a NEET's favorite
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>>153673219
Why did you even watch Z?
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>>153682458
They do that because they hated how the last arc ended.
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>>153682500
Yeah but from a narrative standpoint, it hypes up Goku's opponent if one of them wins, as opposed to even Gohan being able to take one out.
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>>153682362
>Buu defeats his opponent.
>Gohan (hypothetically) defeats his.
>Goku thinks they're all weak and this tournament is going to suck.
>Third guy actually really hard for Goku.
>Goku jobs. there is now a legitimate threat in the tournament.

Why not? Protagonist power doesn't do shit for Goku but keep him in the spotlight, and usually he's the one who has to go down to make a new villain threatening.
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>>153682552
>Seriously, Gohanfags are the worst

Meh at least Gohanfags only show up on the rare occasion he's actually on screen and just fuck off out of embarassment whenever he jobs.

The real problem are the Zamasufags.
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>>153682466
I don't like Gohan but I actually don't care if he wins or loses. But since I dislike Gohanfags much more than I dislike Gohan, so I want him to lose because they will get mad.
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>>153676956
Why are you here then? Go back to your loli threads
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>>153682665
>The real problem are the Zamasufags.

t. Ningen
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>>153682617
>as opposed to even Gohan being able to take one out.
While that's true it doesn't match up with how the current battle is being set up.

>Opponent is aiming specifically to kill Gohan
>Gohan horrified by Goku's shit and takes responsibility to compete in the tournament.
>Wants to show his dad how far he's come since falling off the wagon.
>Opponent is a cheater and using underhanded tactics to make Gohan vulnerable, not just overpowering him (key point: if Gohan's purpose here was to job they'd be showing how outclassed he is by the enemies, not that the enemies have to cheat and use dirty tricks to beat him.)
>Previews for the next two episodes are all about Gohan reclaiming his lost power.
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>>153682665
Zamasufags are fun at least. Gohanfags are just annoying.
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>>153682552
>and calling for his loss is just cathartic to all the bullshit Gohan hype.
Maybe it would be if you didn't spam every thread with that shit, to the point of it being 40% of any DB thread's content. You're not sticking it to anyone, you're just another shitposter.
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>>153682494
This, Gohan is someone who doesn't deserve it either.
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>>153680577
They aren't, it has never been stated. Trunks are Goten arguable were at their peak in Buu Saga and barely could hold against 18 in a 2 vs 1
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>>153682994
>Trunks are Goten arguable were at their peak in Buu Saga

are you retarded?
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>>153682494
>>153682832
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>>153682986
Where's Pan holding 100 tons with one finger?
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>>153682466
I just dislike him for being a lazy cunt that could wreck anyone but never trains because he prefers to study thus leaving the earth in the hands of his father, the less dependable being in all the universes since all he can think of is fighting, even if it means the end of all other lives
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>>153673219

First post, best post.

That Multi-verse Tournament fanfiction webcomic written by Brazilians is better and more interesting than DB Super.

This shit is just a fucking case study of Toriyama's senility.
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>>153682986
Thanks Yoto
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>>153683094
>look at him praising his own post
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>>153682994
>peak
They're young brats who at that point only casually trained as a game but still became super saiyans. They have gargantuan potential if they'd just train hard and be more involved in the quests.
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>>153682500
Mocho, I still don't like you
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>>153683031
Compared to now, they are clearly weaker, Chichi has clearly restrained Goten from training, so he only fights Trunks now and then but has never trained seriously (the only time he somehow did was with Gohan)
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>>153683219
Sorry, I meant their peak compared to now, I need to learn better words and phrasing.

They could easily be the strongest in the series if the plot required it.
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Why is Goku so cute?
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>>153683355
>>153683269
Idk about Goten but Trunks already is way ahead of his future self , he acheived SS years earlier

if current Trunks has the same asspull powers as Future Trunks he could be Turbo Super Saiyan God White 3 in a few years time
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>>153679677
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>>153683454
Wait what is this from?
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>binge watch dragon ball
>love it
>binge watch dragon ball z
>love it
>binge watch dragon ball super
>hate it
this is nice
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>>153683495
where did you get the old episodes? I need a good place to watch.
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>>153683522
nyaa and kissanime
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>>153681329
I don't understand what Toriyama wants him to be, since Dragon Ball, Goku was depicted as pure of heart and kind, that's how he could fly the nimbus. In many scenes in Dragon Ball Z, he was caring and fighting for what's right, but at the same time, he doesn't want Goku to have a sense of justice.
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>>153683454
What is this from?
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All I'm asking from this arc is one or two decent, non-throwaway characters who aren't simply clones of what we've seen before.

I honestly don't think we're going to get that given Toriyama doesn't care for his own creation anymore.
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>>153683355
The characters keep saying that Gohan has the most potential, that doesn't make sense to me but I guess we have to accept it as canon. But still, I believe the two brats could eventually surpass Goku and Vegeta if they trained hard. Too bad about Chichi getting in the way.
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What were they thinking with the u9 furry designs?

>but OG DB had furries

Yeah, but it didn't have furries who look like they came straight out of some edgy webcomic
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the furries are some of the least awful designs to come out of super
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>>153683491
>>153683563
Dragon Ball Z: Atsumare! Gokū Wārudo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdiS1b_FvI
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>>153683553

It's probably because over time, given Dragonball's success and his lack of success in other franchises he tried to start up, he grew to hate Goku and how "generic" he felt he was, and so his image of Goku changed.
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>>153681509
>he let frieza go,
He let him go because he didn't want to kill him.
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Based Buu with the W
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>yfw you realize mr.satan and old joseph in part 4's VA is the same...
Jotaro vs Goku when?
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>>153683552
You, you are a good man.
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>>153683609
Trunks: GOKU WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU DO, DO NOT CREATE A TIME PARADOX
Goku: OK!

5 seconds later

The fabric of space and time is tearing apart and Goku is giggling like a fucking child.
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>>153683681
When you think about it, buu's ability to turn people into chocolate could probably be a stand ability.
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>>153683738
MY STAND
『CHOCOLATE RAIN 』
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MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>153683681
Couldn't Hit stop time too? Does that mean Goku can move through stop time, can he also stop time too?
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>>153671404
>>153671404
>>153671404
:thinking: could this post beat Goku?
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>>153683858
SAME STANDO
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>>153677316
He needs a slice of life episode where we see what he's been up to.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieU4X0Ee2iU
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>>153677421
>>153677480
Everybody thought that was gonna be Ayy Lmao, weird how it's actually a completely different guy
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>>153672923
Generic as fuck, no different from a filler fight
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>>153684071
So all of Super after the Beerus fight
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Will Goku go SSJ Blue in his fight?
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>>153680783

source of those previews?
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>>153679940
He won't win this match. He has to get fucked up before he knows he has to train.
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>>153679596
I don't care that Goku's a kid, he has the mind of an adult so he should know not to whip his dick out in front of his granddaughter.
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>>153679296
roshi them is going to be reveled he was a candidate for be a god of destruciyon
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>>153682986
Shouldn't ChiChi be around the same power level as Videl?
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>>153684435
>goku
>has the mind of an adult
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>>153684435
>he has the mind of an adult
That doesn't mean much for Goku
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>>153679596
GT confirmed as part of the canon.
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>>153680783
Nah, you're just confused.
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Why didn't Kibito heal Satan? Why does he have to be such a dick to ningens? No wonder Zamasu selected him as his sparing partner.
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>>153684435
Think she took a quick glance at his junk?
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>>153678959

You mean him grabbing Basil by a leg and slamming him repeatedly on the floor is not enough? Peta would have sued that one.
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>>153684420
>He has to get fucked up before he knows he has to train.
Again
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>>153684463
At least back in the 23rd budokai, she could give those seemingly endless jumps and easily knock out normal fighters in one hit. That seems above Videl's level.
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>>153681329
Nips have the worst understanding of what 'purity' is.

How is a selfish, bloodlusted, powerhungry monkey man in any way very pure or sincere?
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Gohan, without his spec, looks fucking awful. What the fuck is wrong with his eyes?!
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>>153684639
Videl is pretty damn strong. She just came into the series so late that the power creep made her totally irrelevant
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>>153684639
Videl can fly and focus ki. She was actually stronger than Spopovich but he could take alot more damage.
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>>153684579
If Satan was dying I'm sure Kibito would have healed him. But he was just knocked out and him being unconscious is what made Buu serious about the fight so they just let things play out.
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Would Hit have had to throw the match against Universe 7 if they had Buu?
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>>153684579
Because he called the Kais purple leprechauns and BTFO of them for not beating Majin Buu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W6M0g-mAfI&t
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so quirky LOL XD
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>>153684905
Hit's strong enough that he'd probably trash Buu
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>>153684990
wtf? Is Goku gay now?
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>Is Goku's son strong?

Well - is he?
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>>153685096
Yes. Very good chance he's stronger than everyone in a lot of the other universes (like Bergamo)
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>>153673219
I thought my japanese telly debut was smashing
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>>153685096
Toriyama's face laughing should've flashed up at that scene.
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>>153685096

He's kind of mediocre.
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>>153684463
Chi Chi is actually alot stronger than her even as a kid she could kill giant dinosaurs easily.
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>>153685164
(laughs)
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>>153684990
Toriyama's "humour" is like something a 12 year old on Reddit would write up. It's all references, "le poo" and puns. Embarrassing!
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>>153685096

>Gohan says he trained and will show his power !
>turns SS1
>Goku and Zenos face when
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>>153683609
Whats with these voices

What the fuck
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>>153685263
>>153685164
Where did this meme originate from?
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>>153685339
What's with your voice, you little bitch?
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>>153685325
I hope it will at least be SSJ2
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>>153685325
What? Zeno is a casual fuckstick who loved it when Rou and Basil cheated.

He's a retarded DBZfag who thinks transformations are cool.
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>>153683942
based 17 deserved his own spinoff where he ranges parks with the reincarnation of 16. 16 can be a bird or golf cart or whatever
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>>153685365
Look at any Toriyama interview
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Why is Mai acting like a child? She still has all her experiences right? Shouldn't she be 10x as mature as she is right now as a "child"?
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>>153685325
>The furries overhear Old Kai say he was far stronger than Majin Buu
>They start shitting themselves, wondering how that's even possible
>He jobs within minutes
>Their faces when
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>>153685391
So whatever happened to Mystic Gohan or whatever it was called? He was stronger than ssj3 or some shit without having to go ssj. He just forget it? Or is he too weak now?
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>>153685515
She was always childish even before being turned into a kid and probably only became mature in Trunks' future due to it becoming hell twice.
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>>153685365
(raughs)
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Where the fuck is my Gowasu goes and gets a new apprentice episode?
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>>153685515
The Pilaf gang acted like children as adults. If anything they're MORE mature now as children.
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>>153685552
What? I mean, childish if you mean she served under emporer pilaf. But she's about as mature as the average adult. also she's around 30 during dragon ball.
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>>153685296
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>people think just because gohan goes ssj, that's all he can do.

he didn't struggle at all to go ssj when he sparred with goku and isn't straining in the episode preview.

heh. the match will probably end in a tie due to lavender's tricks, though.
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>>153679311
According to delusional toeishills, yes.
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>>153685549
The way the RoF arc was told in the anime, Gohan couldn't access his full power due to lack of training and he had to go Super Saiyan instead.

However, the Anime's version of RoF seems to be mostly filler and everything about Gohan was disregarded by later arcs. So ignoring everything with Gohan in the RoF arc, it's simply gone without explanation.
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>>153685654
She was around 19 in the beginning of DB.
Also the whole point about the Pilaf gang is that they're childish as fuck. None of them behave like adults. Like another anon said, Mai only matured in the future timeline because her friends died and she went through a lot of shit twice.
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so this is the power of... bullets...
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>>153685515
Because she has a child's brain and physiology.
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>>153685654
>>153685936
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>>153678212

>he sees your dick
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>>153685654
>>153685936
It seems they got more childish after they deaged, maybe its cause their brains shank too idk

Pilaf is about the same but Shu and Mai used to be smarter than him and it doesnt seem like it now
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who is the blue furry
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>>153686064
post this without the watermark
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>>153679964
She'll beat Vegeta. No way we'd get by without maximum shaming.
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Why doesn't Tenshinhan use the dragon balls to be as strong as Goku
I miss when he was cool
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>>153686241
Not seen anyone mention the bug fucker behing smugpup and tumblrchan
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>>153685936
>>153686064
I urge you to re watch episode #2 of Dragon Ball at the very least. You'll notice a huge behavior change.
>>153686112
What about Goku when he was De-aged in GT? It's weird.
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>>153686324
To be fair everyone in GT is out of character
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>>153686323
or the elf girl in the hat.
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>>153686056
>>153686112
I think that's the most plausible explanation. If the wish made them young again, it wouldn't make sense if their brains stayed the same.
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>>153686324
Their first apparition in the anime isn't canon, so they're most likely out of character in episode 2.
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>Buu is both fighter and healer

So why would they need senzu bean anymore other than to help Buu recover?
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>>153672923
Buu should've just turned him into chocolate. Or a dog treat, since he's apparently a wolf. Or an actual piece of basil.
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>>153686516
You mean appearance right? Phoneposter.
When did Tori say they weren't canon?
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Was the entire point of bringing back the Pilaf gang as kids just to show GT is non canon now

Since them being young literally makes all of GT impossible
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>>153673467
>Super Buu is a manifestation of Buu's evil side
Nope. Super Buu is the same as Piccolo's "fused with Kami" state.
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>>153677265
I appreciated the throwback. Buu is pretty fucking brutal when he's mad.
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>>153686580
Toriyama loves the Pilaf Gang but couldn't think of a good way to bring them back in Z.
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>>153686562
I fucked up, I'm tired.
The first time they showed up in the manga was during that whole shit with Yamcha trying to go inside their trailer.
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>>153686580
>Was the Pilaf gang appearing again also something you were particular about, Sensei? They had become children, though….

>Yeah, about that. (laughs) Originally, they were just going to be petty thieves. But since we were going to have the entire cast, I thought [it wouldn’t be great if] some unknown characters just suddenly showed up. So I made them into the Pilaf gang. But you know, thinking long and hard about it after making that decision, they were all getting pretty old. (laughs)

Mai says she’s 41 years old. (laughs)

>So I came up the idea that if I made them younger, they’d be just right.

They stirred things up in an unexpected role (?). I was honestly surprised at that romantic development!

>Ah! Well, anyway, that’s the Pilaf gang for you. If they were to keep on appearing as villains, they’d just be easily defeated. So I figured, “maybe if I inject a little romance, the later developments will come more easily~”. (laughs) I hardly ever draw romance.

all toriyama said about it
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It's been a while since I've seen someone talk about the Dragon Ball Super manga. Did they keep making it? Was Vegetto in it?
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>>153679628
This was the only good thing to come out of GT
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>>153686753
We're waiting until the whole chapter 21 is leaked. Goku and Vegeta are about to go back to the future timeline.
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>>153686828
And what's happen about that Black Goku with SSJ1 and not rose? Why Goku and Vegeta back to the past when that Black Goku was weak as fuck?
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>>153686562
He probably means it's not canon because it's anime-only.
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>>153686889
Black achieved SSR after getting a zenkai boost.
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>>153686889
He wasn't weak as fuck, he was just grinding zenkai boosts.
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>>153686940
That still annoys the piss out of me.
>Goku and Vegeta can't get zenkai boosts anymore because they've pushed themselves to the limit
>Zamasu in Goku's body can because reasons
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>>153686987
Changing his body with Goku probably "resetted" his zenkai count.
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>>153679677
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>>153686745
I'm happy that he decided to bring the Pilaf gang back.
>>
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>>153687186
I just want kid Gohan back tbqh. Adult Gohan is just a more serious Goku
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>>153686889
They went to the past so Goku could learn the Mafuba and Vegeta could train in the RoSaT.
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>>153687253
So what was Kid Gohan?
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>indecisive and has problems destroying things

So why is Chidra hired for the job again?
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>>153687253
1993 Gohan when he wasn't murdering children was the best version of Gohan. That or Future Gohan.
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>>153686745
>maybe if I inject a little romance, the later developments will come more easily

who would of guessed how far that would go?
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>>153687253
And Kid Gohan was just a boring version of Kid Goku.
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>>153687317
Too strong to ignore.
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>>153687186
>tfw you were born after GT
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>>153687330
I guess Toriyama ended up really liking this pairing, going as far as fucking things over for Toei because they removed the Trunks x Mai stuff from the retellings.
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>>153687317
It's not about not destroying things, it's more about doing overkill.
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>>153687478
You can't be here if you're underage, or magically you're 18 now?
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>>153687496
It still works with Trunks being nice to them in BoG and trying to win her over in the Future Trunks arc
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>>153687313
A slightly more serious kid Goku. But kid Goku wasn't around anymore - that was the whole point. Having a kid as a protagonist during, say, the Namek saga changed the dynamics of the story l, because he has a heart of gold even though he's not always as strong or capable as the adults.
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>>153687514
1996 was 21 years ago
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>>153687478
MODS!!!
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>>153687507

It's in his character bio, though.
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>>153682574
>Goku, the jobless idiot
Pottery
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>>153687541
Jesus Christ
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>>153686987
Who said they ran out of zenkai boost? They just rather train the right way than getting blind power ups.
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>>153686036
Leave the bullets to me dad
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>>153686241
my husbando
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>>153687541
>little brother turns 21 next month
What the fuck am I doing with myself
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>>153687369
>Kid Gohan
>Hated Fighting
>Dressed like Piccolo
>Used Piccolo's moves
>could fly
>Very polite and inteligent
>No tail for a majority of his appearance and never once seen using his tail offensively

Gohan was almost nothing like his father, outside of his appearance.
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>>153687694
>Who said they ran out of zenkai boost?
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>>153687186
How come Gohan's hairline looks worse now than it did in GT and EoZ? Is it because of the jobber eyes?
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>>153687720
>Can catch bullets.
>Get giant powerup.
>Can't catch an earing.

Mystic fucked him up.
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>>153686753
A few leaked images from the new chapter if you want to see them:
http://m.imgur.com/a/GNydU
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>>153679677
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>>153684463
Dude, she's the daughter of the Ox King. Videl's dad just faked his way to the top.
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>>153688007
>Videl's dad just faked his way to the top.
He didn't fake it, he just beat up normies
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>>153687330
>>153687496
he did say he had further plans and had Mai mention Trunks in RoF
but that didn't stop Toei from removing it

if anything. He probably enjoyed screwing things over for Toei after that. It's not like they could refuse him after the criticism about the movie arc quality
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>>153686586
I still don't get why Super Buu didn't turn back into that Buu when the fat one was removed. I guess it's almost like Toriyama makes this stuff up on the fly, and doesn't have a great memory.
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>>153677334
What if Buu absorbs her? Will we get waifubuu?
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What if Gohan wins and it's Goku who loses? Thereby shaking the entire tournament up. After all, it's not like the Zen Exhibition matters compared to the Tournament of Power.
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>>153688133
The man gives zero fucks. Gotta respect that.
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Anyone has a webm where Buu gave Basil a beating? It was fucking brutal.

>repeatedly double-chopping his face
>grabbing him by a leg and slamming on the floor before throwing him off-stage
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>>153688130
Toei probably ignored that interview and thought their romance was supposed to be an one time thing. It's still funny that Toriyama did that anyway, they deserved it after the quality of the retellings was so terrible.
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>>153688133
If anything they should get rid of the old man Buu and replace it with Kid Buu
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>>153687186
It's been a long journey. The next fight we'll see this character at his best and see how much he's developed.
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>>153679677
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>>153688630
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>>153688334
Goku losing feels kind of predictable after Frost and Hit.
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>>153686987
Zamasu doesn't know how to control Goku's body. Every zenkai gets him closer to Goku's true potential.
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>>153678591
I would love a back story for this god of destruction
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>>153687803
That's fucking retarded. It's literally the only point of being Saiyan.
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>>153688678
Both Gohan and Goku need a win right now. But one of them has to lose, right? I don't know what will happen.
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>>153688913
It's been abused to death.
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>>153688630
>gfw you may job horribly in front of various gods onstage but at least you are proud in knowing the art of the Kamehamesutra
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>>153672923
are they supposed to be androids?
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>>153688997
>But one of them has to lose, right?
Its an exhibition match which the stakes are about appeasing Zeno, not winning. U9 might get wiped for being boring.
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>>153688913
No, it's why saiyans are a threat
they can shoot up to high tier rather quickly by surviving grueling battles.
But few survived as many high stakes fights as Goku and Vegeta had by the time they went SSJ (Goku alone nearly died twice after his first revival in Z, Vegeta three or four times).
But as soon as SSJ came into play, the zenkai boosts largely disappeared, which is why the RoSaT became important.
Honestly, it's probably that SSJ unocks the power that would be unlocked by Zenkai boosts, so after unlocking it, your base form rises a lot faster, but the multiplier shrinks.
Toriyama said that Goku's first SS transformation was about 50x his base form, but by the time he got used to it, it was only giving him 3-5x.
SSJ didn't get weaker, his base got stronger.
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>>153688506
>Toei probably ignored that interview and thought their romance was supposed to be an one time thing.

that or they were too afraid of the reaction when it became more than a joke

>It's still funny that Toriyama did that anyway, they deserved it after the quality of the retellings was so terrible.
couldn't agree more
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>>153689167
If U7 wins now it could make them cocky going into the Tournament of Power and set them up for a harsh reality check
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>>153689213
> only giving him 3-5x

I've never heard this before. And the super saiyan multiplier stuff always sounded like bull shit because shit didn't make sense after SSJ2.
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>>153672923

was good, now people can't say anymore we are not in the standard of DBZ

>>153673219

I don't understand people, since the first episode everyone saying "where are the old style fights?" and now that we have finally this every one is bored?
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>>153689306
>every one
The first several threads after the episode aired were positive as fuck with few complainers, people loved it. But now we've already gushed and are waiting for the next episode, when these threads slow down the complainers are just more noticeable because less conversation in general.
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>>153688997
Goku's place in the plot is secure no matter what happens. Gohan needs the win more.
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>>153689213
>Toriyama said that Goku's first SS transformation was about 50x his base form, but by the time he got used to it, it was only giving him 3-5x.
Source that shit
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>>153689291
Well, first there's a comment where he said 50x was an exaggerration and that he meant 10x how he was fighting before (Kaioken x 20) which would make it around Kaioken x 200. That's MORE powerful than 50x his base
So that doesn't make much sense, so it's safe to say that Toriyama isn't very good at multpliers.
>Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super Saiyan, but that was a bit of an exaggeration. My feeling as the creator is that, while drawing it, I felt that it was about a 10-fold change from what it was up to that point.

I can't find the other interview of the top of my head though, I just remember one that chimed in about the various power multipliers by the end of the series.
Toriyama also seems fairly unsure.
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>>153680194

There is something more great, more great than the mainlines... Zeno is only a part. We are talking about the "mistery" Zamasu seen beyond time.
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>>153680329

The only thing that I agree, is that we are like zeno, we waited for fun fights and here we are.
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