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Scanlation thread

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What are you reading/translating/cleaning & redrawing/typesetting?
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>>153453217
Porn of course, what else?
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>>153453678
Since you're translating porn, could you translate those two pages for me?

https://exhentai.org/s/6fbf235ae7/1011738-5
https://exhentai.org/s/ced8c3dcea/1011738-6

I'm clueless on why they started fucking.
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>>153453716
Different anon but I'll try anyways.

(First page)
Oh? He woke up.
You can't sleep so much, it'll rot your brain.

What's going on?

What's going on?

What is going on?!

(Next page)
This is so wrong I don't know where to begin!

Oh.
Huh?

Should I really be going along with this?

Here.
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Whatever people pay me enough to do.
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>>153454856
I'm still clueless on why they started fucking, but hey, thank you very much. Based.
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>>153453217
I actually made my first translation out of a Korean version, but I'm seemingly too dumb to make an good looking edit. Anyone got some resources how to do proper?

>Inb4 just use this 'weebudesu' font for everything, nobody really cares
I care.
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>>153454890
Do they need a reason to start fucking?
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>>153456578
http://archive.is/qUUFl

http://sensescans.com/index.php?topic=3260.0

I have only these two, I'm pretty sure there are some anons who could post some different tutorials as well.
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Page from Doron Chibimaru I'm literally working on right now.

I need to buy a new keyboard first since my G through L keys are broken and I'm typing this with an onscreen keyboard. It makes typing my translations difficult.
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No offense but I don't think we need a constant thread for this. Once a week is fine, probably, and people will surely have made some progress to "report" on.

>>153457830
>all that kana

Damn, that actually looks more painful to read than a page full of kanji
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I don't mind these threads as a replacement for DJT desu.

>>153459233
It's actually good practice since it's reinforcing my scanning speed. But it literally is a wall of text at times, and often full of cultural allusions, nursery rhymes or even just plain nonsense.
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>>153453678
Are you getting paid for it? Also, what is it, or at least its type?

>>153457830
That looks more trouble than it's worth.
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>>153457830
you must have the patience of a saint
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>>153459867
>>153459905

You guys know that different people have different hobbies.
There's no need to make him a curiosity.
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>>153453217
This should be in the OP:

[CLEANING]

http://coe.utah.edu/~christom/
http://forums.sensescans.com/index.php?topic=2814.0
http://www.ruinevil.com/rawr/editguide/1.html

[REDRAWING]

https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/advanced-redrawing-methodes.2993177/

[TYPESETTING]

http://prettyanonymo.us/index.php/scanlation-resources/anonblacks-typesetting-guide/
http://prettyanonymo.us/index.php/scanlation-resources/
http://sensescans.com/index.php?topic=3260.0
http://www.ruinevil.com/rawr/editguide/2.html
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>>153461862
This is helpful, thank you.
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>>153461862
We should also have thread count and editions, right?
People should be expected to be able to google these resources for themselves.
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>>153453217
>7 hours ago
>14 ip
>17 post
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https://e-hentai.org/bounty.php?bid=15419

If anyone is interested.
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There was an new chapter of The Arms Peddler on the last issue of young gangan. Any chance of getting at least the raws soon?
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First time trying to clean something. How did I do?
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>>153464194
really good job. Not sure what the raw looked like, but it's absolutely passable.
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>>153464194
Stop using blur filters
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>>153464445
This is the scan. The original is a tif, not a jpg.

>>153464480
Well, the guides said to use surface blur. What other thing do you recommend, anon?
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I can't believe ms really does their type layout like this on purpose.
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>>153465007
Check the archive for the previous Scanlator thread. An MS shill was there trying to defend why their style is "the best".
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>>153465007
Why not just make the font smaller?
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>>153465051
I was there but I hoped it was a troll.
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>>153464194
>>153464626
damn good for a first try, nice work
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Why are so many scans resized to 1600 vertical pixels? Is that the resolution of tablets or what?
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>>153465311
It's the closest power of 2 to normal screen size.
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>>153465332
I don't understand what you've just said, but ok.
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>>153465367
Powers of 2 work better in computers it's why you have 2,4, and 8-chan.
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>>153465424
That I understand, but I don't see what 1600 has to do with a 1920x1080 screen.
2^10 is 1024 and 2^11 is 2048. 1600 is not a power of 2 or even close to one.
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>>153453678
Since you're translating porn, you could translate the last two chapters from Kizashi. Please, anon-kun. I'm waiting for more than 6 months for the last 2 chapters.
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>>153465521
It's what's known as a pseudo-power of 2 and is the close to the important dimension which is the average of the width and height.
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>people actually read porn
What the fuck? Do you also watch hentai for the plot?
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>>153465007
Do they really believe this somehow looks good?
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>>153464194
>>153464626
>6000px raw
>down scales it to 1500
People who do this have literal down syndrome. There is no reason at all to down scale raws past 3000px. The only reason people used to release things in a small resolution was because all they had are bad magazine raws, so down scaling means you don't see how lazy of a job they did at cleaning.
There is also no draw back at all to releasing things in a larger format. a 3000px page getting down scaled to fit a small monitor or online reader does nothing to effect the quality. However, a 1500px page being stretched to fit on a large monitor looks awful. And file size is never an issue either, because you can save in a restricted color depth.

As for how you did cleaning, you missed a lot of dust, and the blacks are too strong.
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>>153465748
more immersive that way.
also, you won't see some stories in sfw medium.
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>>153465748

There's visual cues to turn people on and also reading cues.

>>153466100

Autism, nothing more than that. Sticking to the original balloon layout even though it was never meant for western typesetting, because of muh time honored tradishion. If you want to stick to that shit, at least use a vertical font like Zud Juice.
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>>153466292
>because of muh time honored tradishion
That's not why they do it.
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>>153466107
But the blacks are not actually black before 117 or so.
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>>153466488
You need to slightly burn it in specific spots so you don't lose the finer details. Not just level it until it's all pure black in larger spots.
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>>153466668
All right. Thank you, anon.
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>>153464626
>Well, the guides said to use surface blur. What other thing do you recommend, anon?
Don't use filters. They are completely unnecessary on competently scanned materials. Simply level and then resize using bicubic smoother.

>>153466488
Do not worry about getting all blacks completely black, just the majority. It's bad to start burning areas of the image because it distorts it. The parts that aren't completely black are just variations in the printing or because the original print didn't use true black in the first place. You should avoid burning in 90% of cases.
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>>153466107
>>153465728
Actually, 1600 is so common because most people use a 1920x1080 screen. If we assume that from the 1080 pixels 80 are dedicated to the browser's tab space and whatever else it might have, that leaves us with 1000 pixels where we can view out page. That means we will be able to see

1000/1600 = 62.5 %

62.5% of our page. You also need to remember that the golden ratio is around 62%. That means we get very close to our golden ratio with a vertical resolution of 1600 pixels for our raws and scanlated pages. And that's why you have vertical resolutions of 1600 pixels. Anything more and you'd view a smaller part of the page. Anything less and you'd lose quality and view more part of the page, but it would be useless since you can only focus on so much content at a time.
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>>153466944
>argument is based around using online readers
You're basically invalidating your own argument.
Your average browser reader converts pages to jpg and and resamples them to a much lower quality. By your logic, that's how all raws and translated pages should be released in the first place.

Your argument also full ignores reading things in full screen, which hides the browser tab. That fucks your "golden ratio" either way.
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>>153466944
I read manga on a tablet
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>>153467209
67.5%
Still close enough.

Stop using Mangafox. Batoto automatically tells you if the page is being resized. With a 1600 resolution, it does not need to resize it and it displays the original image in whatever format it might be.

>>153467298
>view more part of the page, but it would be useless since you can only focus on so much content at a time
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>>153467385
>close enough
Using an online reader is never unacceptable if you actually care about quality. You are quite literally are arguing the casual retard's stance. I bet you stream anime as well.
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>>153466944
1600 is just because, just like 1200 and any other number before. Somebody uses some nice looking number and it catches on.
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>>153467513
I never said otherwise, you schmuck. I told you to use an online reader that does not do the stupid shit you've said, like Batoto.
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>>153467385
Reading manga on a PC is retarded

You are supposed to see the whole page, not 60% of the page
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>>153467612
>I never said otherwise
What? Your whole argument is based around how you should release things 1600px for browser reader's sake.
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The problem with overly large resolutions is that at some point you're essentially seeing the page as if you were looking at it with a magnifying glass.
I guess when digital resolutions make 1080p look like 480p does today, then we might want massive scans for releases. But even then, the original mangaka's work is scanned and printed at 600dpi so there's going to be a hard limit.
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>>153467699
That's the thing. 3000px is not even close to "overly large".
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>>153467769
Actually, it is. About 2000px is the point before being too large.
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>>153467845
Maybe if you have a very small monitor.
But really, you haven't even read the thread.

To quote a previous post.
>There is also no draw back at all to releasing things in a larger format. a 3000px page getting down scaled to fit a small monitor or online reader does nothing to effect the quality. However, a 1500px page being stretched to fit on a large monitor looks awful. And file size is never an issue either, because you can save in a restricted color depth.

And if you really want to keep your retarded mentality, you could considering it future-proofing.
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>>153467694
>Using an online reader is never unacceptable
I never said it's unacceptable. Stop putting words in my mouth.

>>153467656
>You are supposed to see the whole page, not 60% of the page
Only for spreads or large pannels. Most of the time it's useless.
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>>153467954
>makes contrived baseless argument about some "golden ratio" based entirely around online readers
>online readers are totally bad, guies
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>>153468040
Now you're just spouting mindless bullshit. You've won the argument, anon.
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>>153453217
Did ebj change their canvas or something? The greasemonkey script I have isn't working
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>>153468823
The code looks like it should still work but anything I try gives a Javascript error that makes absolutely no sense in context since I'm explicitly using what should be the fix for it.
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>>153470192
It was just working until today, so I don't really know what happened.

Just to be sure, we're talking about the same script, right?
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>>153470357
I assume so, they must have changed something but I have no idea what. It looks like it should run but it just doesn't.
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>>153470470
Is it called ebjhooker at the manage add ons screen?
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>>153470540
Yeah that and the Python command line one both aren't working.
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>>153470574
Then it looks like either ebj changed their settings or the code turned moot. Either way, looks like we need a new one.
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Musou Theater 42
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>>153465007
its so ugly it hurts
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Do these motherfuckers have no shame?
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Font recommendations for hentai SFX? Like the manuscript-looking one Fakku usually uses
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>>153473599
Show me the one Fakku uses.
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>>153473557
>>153473626
Fakku mostly does hand-drawn SFX.
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>>153473670
Ah I was fearing that'd be the case
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>>153473769
http://www.dafont.com/five-cents.font?text=amazing+splurt+aahh
http://www.dafont.com/cheeky-rabbit.font?text=Fuck+me+harder%2C+senpai+o
Those 2 seem to fit.
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>>153474569
Five cents looks pretty great, though a little thicc. Thanks
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Thoughts on being really lazy and scanning two pages at a time?
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>>153475108
This might surprise you, but I'm ok with it. Jumpplus displays 2 pages at a time, as if you were reading an actual magazine.
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>>153475108
Yuri is fine no matter how it's displayed
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What's the difference between "nani" and "nani-sore"?
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>>153475316
what
what-that
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>>153475316
"What?"
"What is sour?"
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Would you go professional or would you rather just scanlate as a hobby and have some other job?
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>>153475895
Scanlate as a hobby and have some other job.
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>>153475895
How hard is it to scanlate professionally? I know I'm a better editor and translator than the professional at Yen Press. But how much do you have to work per day? What's the pay like?
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>>153476038

Not hard at all, in fact 99% of the hard skills you learn from scanlation (like redrawing) are worthless professionally. All you have to do is master indesign. I know because I dealt with some people coming from pro, and they were useless.
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Do people still scanlate wani manga? Where is the go to place to download those and Fakku rips?
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>>153476169
Why indesign and not just photoshop?

And, if you did scanlate professional, would you have to limit what fonts you use?
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>>153475370
>>153475580
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>>153476351
sukebei nyaa I guess
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>>153476512
Never thought to check there. If only they tagged /ss/
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>>153476512
>>153476777
You two are retards.
Why would diaz allow torrents of his own products on a site he runs.
You know he owns both Fakku and Nyaa, right?
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>>153476854

And yet, it's all there.

>>153476367

You have to use both, but photoshop will be for small touches, indesign for most of the work, and that's because it's stuff you're gonna have to print. As for fonts don't worry, most pro still use basic as fuck fonts, fakku made dosh on wild words, sf grunge sans and chinacat shit for christ sake.
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Do you think scanlators should receive some form of compensation from the community for all the work they do?
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>>153477020
>And yet, it's all there.
It is? I see 106 results for "Fakku" , and it's all shit that was taken down from Fakku's site a while back.
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>>153476854
oh
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>>153477059
no kirei cake, begging is annoying
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>>153477059
If they want to do only comission fine, as long as its not e-begging or paywalls
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Speaking of Wani, there's this (loli) story by Kanyapyi I want to work on, but apparently it's only been published in a Wani tank. However, the digital version of the tank has been on sadpanda for a year no problem.

So, I don't know if there's risk of a ban or something by uploading it there once I'm done with it.
I've only done the rough translation, but I don't wanna spend time editing it just to find out I won't really be able to spread it around...
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>>153477059
Only if they take care of their mom
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>>153477241
Make a new account and upload it via a VPN or proxy.
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>>153453217
Cambrian, check it out!
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>>153476854
Uh huh

https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=0&term=fakku
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>>153465007
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>>153477333
dl-ing right now, thanks
also, is there a forum where scanlators gather?
batoto is fucking shit and e-hentai is for porn only
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>>153477524
>and e-hentai is for porn only
This kills me
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>>153477329
Too much of a hassle, I've already uploaded some stuff there and would rather keep it all under one account.
Oh well, maybe I'll just upload it to nyaa or something when I'm done with it, whenever that is.
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>>153477333
damn that was dead forever before you picked it up, good on you
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>>153477524
>and e-hentai is for porn only
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>>153477059
Fifteen years

Mommy is proud of you.
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>>153477333
What font is that?
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>>153477923
Wild Words
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>>153477562
>>153477793
what? i mean the forum, not the gallery
besides, they don't allow non-hentai manga and expunge them at first sight
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>>153477059
I get payed in hentai credits, I wonder if I can get someone to TL Atogatari for them.
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>>153477095

I mean they're legit published stuff, it's there.

>>153477059

Before I didn't think so, now I do.
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>>153477095
That just means you suck at searching, retard.
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>>153478243
For all the effort we go through I say we should
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>>153478243

>they're

Christ, their*
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>>153478070
Because it's not a manga site. Yeah, you can upload artbooks, but not much else. Of course they're gonna expunge it.

>>153478204
>hentai credits
Don't tell me you actually play hentaiverse?
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>>153478368

No, it's not because it's a manga site, it's because they didn't want it to be a manga site, get too much attention from normalfag publishers and possibly get nuked. This was actually an issue when they started getting dmca out the ass on ecchi shit.
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>>153478368
No, I get them by doing shit for people and use them to get other people to do shit for me.
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>tfw ur group is shit but you're friends with everyone and can't tell them they're trash
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>>153478622
How shit, though? Remember that you're protected by anonimity.
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>>153478555
>didn't want it to be a manga site
Which it isn't and shouldn't be. Really. Who cares? To me, it's porn and artbooks.

>>153478612
I upload tons of shit there. Could I use all the credits I get to get somebody to do stuff?
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>>153478728

Yes, but now credits are worth as much as the ruble after 2014, because too many people joined the site and too many started playing the ponyshit game, which caused a bubble. Now to get shit scanlated with bounties either you have to be absolutely lucky (like, you put 100k c and 50h but someone LOVES your pick) or pour a fuckton "cash" and wait forever.

https://exhentai.org/g/1017407/ebd35027f6/

This was an editing bounty for years, and iirc top 3 in the whole site. I could've done it in a couple days but I really couldn't give a shit, I don't need it.
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>>153470357

Both canvas dump scripts that I was using no longer work. Good thing I ripped what I needed seemingly a few hours before they updated, if this isn't a temporary hiccup.
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>>153477417
Wait, are all of Fakku's releases up here? Or are these just the ones that god expunged from Fakku's site a few months back.
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>>153479587

All of the official ones, yes.
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>>153478656
So shit that this post might reveal us
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>>153479281
I was gonna rip a few things tonight, and I have to rip some volumes which are due out soon. So I'm hoping someone will come up with a fix soon.
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>>153478892
How worthless exactly?
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>>153470470

Variables changed name?
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>>153479692
Why does Diaz allow this?
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>>153479930
Because he's a genius, duh.
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>>153479878
Variable names are the same but I get an error saying the function doesn't exist when I try to call literally anything on the canvas element. Googling it just says to call it on element[0] but I'm already doing that, so either they changed something really bizarre or Javascript is just broken for everyone.
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>>153479752

The overall level of scanlations right now is very low, almost rock bottom. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's dead, but it's terrible.

>>153479783

Go look at the bounty section, and try guessing how much you have to invest for a script translation.

>>153479930

My guesses are either

>release very few works a day
>X-Eros 50 is far from done and they've yet to do 51 which has been out for weeks
>By the time they do both there'll be 52 and 53
>Added one more magazine to the mix, keeping that shit pacing
>People have to wait months for a 100-150 works batch they may not care for at all
>normalfags who spend money on porn see the "convenience" in getting the work as it releases and don't even bother pirating.

Or

>Get the most money from impulsebuyfags
>let torrent stay there
>hope they're lured by the quality and the uncensored factor into subscribing.
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>>153466107
Is it worth it to go that far? Like, I understand cleaners have to clean stuff, but what is the point at which you can say that something is good enough as it is?
When I see people taking things to extremes I am reminded of programming and of all the prople who claim that you should optimize your code. Most of the time it's not worth it. Those extra 100 ms are not worth the time investment to make them happen.
Does scanlating in general have something similar?
I only know of redrawing that has such a limit, where you should typeset first and redraw later and only the parts that are visible.
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>>153480314

Java might be broken, might want to test it on another HTML 5 canvas.
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>>153466944
>the golden ratio
If I see this meme one more time.
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I bought Shigeru Sugiura: Last of the Mohicans and Nemoto Takashi's Monster Men Bureiko Lullaby's English prints, since they're cheap and the publisher died. Might scan them this week.
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>>153480619
It's a meme as old as Babylon anon. It ain't going away any time soon.
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>>153480737
It can with you're help.
http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/maa/markowsky.pdf
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>>153477059
Yes. Fact is, scanlating is a goddamn job if you do it at a level comparable to professional quality. It takes a lot of time and skill which is why I turned professional and now get paid for digital publications instead of slaving away for free
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>>153480411

Scans have to be retained big only with hentai, because you may want to open that blowjob face stretched out on the screen as you read the rest, to improve your experience. With non-h, it absolutely doesn't matter, because people read wan piss on their cellphone as they take a shit in the morning.

>Is it worth it to go that far?

No, both to crush blacks and to burn the scan like that. Filter, level or curve if leveling is too harsh, only burn if it's a few spots, proceed. I deliberately left dirt, but most of it is gone.

As for redrawing: no, unless you're getting paid. I feel very sorry for people who do it in non-h. Clean, take out text, only redraw what is still visible after typesetting. Learn drawing art instead.
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>>153481112

hentai or non-h?
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>>153477059
I do stuff I like so I'm fine with doing it for free, if I have to ask for donations to cover raws that's a different story but I think that's fair as long as it isn't put in the actual release..
Of course if people actually offer me money to translate shit then I'll take it.
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>>153481178
Non-h. I don't work for Fakku.
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>>153481190

You got very lucky, I heard that some companies outright refuse you if they heard you did scanlations before.
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>>153481216
Not like you have to tell them, but my current contract does indeed know I used to do scanlations. Honestly, like any job, it's all about who you know. I was fortunate enough to work with a bunch of legitimate professional translators who do scanlation on the side.
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>>153481216

That's true. Some guy from Yen Press or Kodansha turned down a master's degree translator because they had done scanlation before. We know because he acted like a dick about it on Twitter after he rejected the app.
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>>153481112
Just manga?
How much do you make?
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>>153481112
How does he do it!?
seriously
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>>153481251

I guess that's true, but still >>153481267 will never stop being fucking stupid

>have to deal with shit scans and a bunch of retards to get shit done
>your skills after a while end up far surpassing those of someone who works on pristine h:6000 scans and two-three fonts
>can't be hired because [REASONS]

A lot of pro editors don't even bother with sfxsetting, so they basically are dialoguesettingmonkeys.
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>>153481388
>[REASONS]
Not sure if it's the same Twitter drama I'm thinking of, but the one I saw gave the reason that it "raised questions about the applicant's moral standards."
Though the guy in this case literally put "scanlation experience" on his resume so he was kind of asking for it.
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>>153481543
>asking for it
It's manga. You can dance around it all you like but there's really no other way out of it. If it's for a job not related to manga, sure, but saying it's 'asking for it' in this particular case is ignoring the elephant in the room.
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>>153481543
>>153481665

Yeah, and it still doesn't stop being retarded. Unless you work on futa ryona with smegma so they think you may not be the nicest guy to keep around, you still have built plenty experience on how to deal with that type of manga, if you're a translator you know a lot of how some authors like to write their dialogues etc.

Sorry for the autist example, but this is like rejecting a guy trying into pro wrestling because he was working with the indies. He was doing the same shit you did, just on a smaller scale.
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>>153481665
Not saying they weren't being dicks for throwing out the application as soon as they saw that, but it'd probably be better to try and bring it up once you've already got an interview or something instead of putting literally illegal activity on your resume.
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>>153481808

Reasoning like that is why so many English pubs still have shitty editing.
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>>153481122
Just in cause any can't figure out for themselves.
Don't listen to this person, he's fucking retarded.
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>>153482101

Is it because of the page size? I picked one at random to upload faster. Is it because of the tips? Nothing but the cold hard truth, people who demand redraws or something as clinically autistic as burn the hair on a character, on something so throwaway as weekly non-h chapters, are fucking hysterical. And I say this as a redrawer who did all of that shit. Being an editor is by far the most terrible task in the whole scanlation scene, and it's even worse if you are both a redrawer and the typesetter, even if you take into account the months/years that took to a translator to learn japanese.
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>>153481886
And yet those same companies themselves don't even shy away from advertising in places like 4chan.
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>>153482324
No, because of everything you said.
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>>153482426

But it's true, you keep sticking to those dumb guides linked above, sometimes they say something intredasting, not really useful but still.
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>>153481251
>>153481267
>>153481388
In my experience working professionally as a letterer, Japanese companies generally don't care if you've done scanlation or have some pointless art degree and only want results, but western companies are douchebags who only want art degree students who have never actually worked on manga before. Which is why all their shit sucks.
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