Anyone else think the bankai distribution was obviously unbalanced

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>>153438198

>>153438414
Kuchiki's bankai was stupid op, but most of the early bankai/shikais were plain shit.
>make several big knives
>sword becomes a long snake
>gundam
>a sensory deprivation tent
>large caterpillar???

>>153438198
>the earlier your bankai was exposed, the blander and shittier it was
Makes sense, due to power creep and all that.

>>153438775
yes...

power levels in bleach only made sense if you only look at the current arc

if you start comparing strength between arcs they dont make any sense

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>>153438198
Anyone else hate how bleach went from a comfy anime about Ichigo protecting his town with his super powered friends to an overly dramatic dbz with swords?

>>153439438
things sure went downhill after soul society arc

maybe the anime should have ended there. Dropping the whole aizen thing and ichigo going back to the real world with rukia

>>153439438

They ramped up too quickly. SS arc should have been straight up snatch n grab instead of ichigo curbstomping everybody except the captains. Their not being an over-arching goal really hurt the series as a whole

>>153439684
This, they should have had the captains be something so powerful that they had absolutely no chance of beating them, so they had to run away or find other options. Maybe have Ichigo beat one captain at the very end.

Also, what the fuck is the deal with Chad? He's a cool character, but he serves absolutely no purpose. Even during the fullbringer bullshit, he goes back to doing nothing right after introducing ichigo to the group.

>>153438730
>make several big knives
Who dis?

>>153439548
They really could have handeled Aizen better after soul society arc and his ambitions and way to go about them. I think the main problem was that we got to see it from his perspective too often. They should have made him a more ominous figure after his ascension and only shown us the effects of his meddling.

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>>153440757
Ikkaku probably

>>153439438
What everyone agrees should have happened is Ichigo starts working to overthrow the corrupt soul society after seeing what it's like there.

Imagine if it was Aizen and Ichigo vs the Soul Society instead of Ichigo and the Soul Society vs Aizen.

>>153440945
>tfw seriously thought this was going to happen
SS was just plain weird.

>>153438730
>>large caterpillar???
>im-fucking-plying

>>153441044
>>153440945
Aizen was too likeable to be a villain. Atleast to be the kind of villain that Kubo wanted him to be

>>153438730
Hey, don't talk shit about mayuri, but yeah, bankais went from very bland (ichigo and soi fon) to downright broken, i mean, how in the hell can you beat Kyoraku without an asspull, it doesn't help that despite the supposed experience they used them like retards (Tousen)

>>153441360
Kyoraku still doesnt make sense to me

>>153441360
Yeah Mayuri's bankai was still pretty special just for the whole poison and blades release, not counting of course the modifications Mayuri put later.

>>153441360
Why didnt tousen have a normal back-up weapon for when he used his bankai? Considering how the opponent could negate the effects of his bankai by touching the hilt of his weapon. The moment he used his bankai, his sword is just a sword.

>>153438198
If you actually think Daiguren Hyourinmaru is one of the weaker bankais in Bleach, you've already fucked up.

>>153440945
I seriously wish this is what happened, although I don't know if I'd ally Ichigo with Aizen though- he still wanted to destroy most of the people Ichigo cared about.

Is there any good fanfiction with that Ichigo vs corrupt soul society premise though?

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>>153438198
Stop forcing bleach threads.
Nothing special is gonna happen until 2018.

>>153442665
>Nothing special is gonna happen until 2018.
The second novel is out in a few months.

Best captains bankai is shittier than her shikai

>>153443039
>soifon
>best captain
pick one

>>153442721
Then fuck off till then.

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>>153441960
That "I never said the countdown was for the Bankai wearing off" reveal.

>>153443731
>Toushirou doesn't like being treated like a kid
>doesn't like his handsome young man form either
What does this faggot want?

>>153444090
Respect but all he gets is bullying.

>>153444173
Not even Hinamori seemed to be all that impressed with his grown form.

>>153444090
to be in a better series

>>153443731
It can freeze concepts.

>>153440945
>Imagine if it was Aizen and Ichigo vs the Soul Society instead of Ichigo and the Soul Society vs Aizen.
unf

Bleach sucks. Bankai sucks. Everyone unanimously agree that the only real highlight in Bleach was Kenpachi who just said "fuck all that shit" and fought like a man.

>>153445831
>Everyone unanimously agrees

>>153443731
This is the biggest bullshit the series probably ever pulled

Throughout the entire manga Hitsugaya has been spamming his bankai non-stop and is constantly losing to his opponents

But suddenly I power up because that's not a timer to power down even though he constantly rushes to finish his opponents before the countdown ends

If he had such a trump card then did he never use it until that point?
With all the bullshit that happened to Hinamori because of Aizen trolling you'd think he would pull out his trump card against Aizen

>>153446109
He doesn't like how it looks.

Worst bankai was squad 4 captain. She went went from healing waif us to edgy grim dark bitch. This corresponds to going from a cool healing manta ray to a shitty knife sword.

>>153446109
He hadn't mastered his Bankai before the timeskip, he could barely control it.

>>153446474
Its a pun.

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>>153439548
The only things that keep the epilogue from smoothly fitting after Aizen's defeat are Ichigo having his powers and Yhwach's return.

>>153447785
He eyes look big.

>>153440942
>lol I had bankai the whole time but didn't use it. This isnt an asspull I swear.

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>>153448981
It's a shame/good thing Orihime's boobs weren't in that frame because I would have made a corny joke about her rack in this reply.

>>153449161
It's surely an asspull. But it fits just so goddamn well with the whole diviision hiding their powers and enormous loyalty they have for Zaraki, that it's easy to stomach it. The scene itself being awesome certainly helps, too.

>>153449161
It was the shittiest bankai anyway, breaks easily and we are told that broken ones cannot be restored. Its basically a one time use for when your life is in danger, which wasn't the case for when he fought Ichigo.

>>153439438
This Senpai. I liked his human friends anyway

>>153439438
i too like the slice of life monster of the week but i dont think kubo had it in him to write a slice of life story which kind of sucks as he had good character designs. After soul society everyone started looking similar but originally he had some good stuff.

Power creep during soul society arc was too much he should of not been able to go toe to toe with a lieutenant yet he solos 2 captains. Could of had a ton more world building and visited more then the same town, society, and a desert.

Bleach and Naruto both wasted potential they started off very strong but had fan fic type endings.

>>153441533
shikai - children games translated to fighting, opponent and him have equal chances, it depends on their strategy
bankai - theater play translated to pure murder, opponent is really fucked as everything they did comes back to bite them in the ass and then they drown in misery unless they somehow have more energy than Kyoraku or are an immortal god

>>153447785
*sploosh

What was up with the first division vice captain, is he a joke character

Alright, how would you guys fix/balance the shitty powers

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>>153453752
He was a VERY minor character who's only plot point was to show that people were going to die in the 1000 Year Blood War. That's why we never really saw him whatsoever for more than 2 panels a time.

He was more of a plot device than a character as he lacked any real personality. Even when they went into Yamamoto's flashback, it was more geared towards Yamamoto than his vice captain.

>>153451903
Bleach was far more better written than Naruto though. Naruto relied on that part 2 to a point of it's own detriment.

Bleach had 4 good arcs and two bad ones. (Pre-Reaper, Soul Society, Arrancar: Hueco Mundo and 1000 Year Blood War.)

Hell, see image as to why the 1000 Year Blood war seemed very strong for at least 75% of the time till the rushed ending.

>>153453877
I dunno, I feel like Blood War crossed the line between "plot twists" and "flagrant bullshit".

>>153438198
>Only discernible pattern in bankais, if any can be said to exist, was that the earlier your bankai was exposed, the blander and shittier it was.

Except that Mayuri's Bankai was the first Bankai and that was pretty unique with the giant poison baby monster. It got curbstomped the first time because Uryu used his final Quincy release form on it to establish that the Quincies were stronger.

Then Komamura's bankai (giant samurai) was used to defeat a low ranking Arrancar and completely decimate Bambietta DESPITE being cut off camera in Soul Society Arc.

Then there is Byakuya's Bankai that was really good and only lost to someone ONCE in the entire Part 1. He lost against once in part 2 with As Nodt, but regained it back again.

Earlier bankais were not bland, it was just specific Bankai were not very good like Tousen's Bankai or Hitsugiya's Bankai.

>>153453907
If that was the case, then people would not be asking for the anime to come back, they would not have created that list of things that were awesome (with some little bullshit moments), and the manga would not have gotten to 20 volumes and sold 500,000 to 450,000 copies on average a weekend.

>>153453982
I accept your other points but much worse things than Bleach have sold big

>>153454007
In the past 4 years of Bleach's final arc there were only a handfull that sold either equal to or more than Bleach.

One Piece
Naruto
Assassination Classroom
Haiyukuu
Singeki No Soma

That is only 25% of the average 20 manga that are printed out in Shonen Jump.

>>153454044
What I'm getting at is that Bleach's sales don't mean it's remotely good

>>153454069
It still means that hundreds of thousands of people were still sticking by the manga despite Shonen Jump's spiteful attempts to devalue the series.

12 hour Bleach OVA with an original ending when?

Ichigo not once lusting over Rukia is an offence of the highest degree against her beauty and an embarrassment to all Men for sharing a gender with a pussy like him.

>>153444090
to get fucked in the ass by Ichigo

>>153454641
She doesn't even have boobs

>>153453877
I thought we had a more updated version of that image.

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>>153454641
I know, right? He's so blind.

>>153439438
That's nostalgia goggles
Ichigo very quickly escelated to something beyond protecting his home town.
You started to see it with grand fisher, then as soon as ishida showed up it was over.
It was never as comfy as /a/ remembers it. They just literally hate shonen tropes, and bleach started out with low key tropes that /a/ didn't notice were tropes (mc life changed by platonic female from another world, mc is a punk with a soft heart, mc gets his power from someone else)
I guarantee that most people who feel bleach was "comfy" at the start haven't been watching anime prior to 1999.

>>153453982
Tousens bankai was phenomenal.
Only a freak like zaraki or maybe a genius like mayuri could have survived it.
Tousens bankai is basically stealth assasination.
Even other bankais would have been largely useless, except of course Yamamoto, and those who might be so large it would break. But bankais aren't meant to fight against bankais.

>>153455591
But that's what Aizen wants.

I have to confess that I enjoyed the Bleach Abridged quite a bit.

>>153442388
Where isn't there? HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA

ahaha thanks for reminding me shinji didn't do jack shit

i'm so glad kubo will never get work in the manga industry ever again

>>153457451
Keep telling yourself that...

>>153456962
>enjoyed
>past tense
There was a new episode last week. It was pretty fun.

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>>153455635
No man in Isshin's lineage would consider courting a woman without a nice set of hooters.

Reminder.
2013 net worth

kishimoto - $20 million
toriyama - $45 million
kubo - $50 million

No wonder they stopped supporting bleach, kubo is making too much money.

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>>153458820
It's probably a Shiba thing, as evidenced by Kuukaku and Karin.

>>153454641
He is an oppai man, he needs meat, something that rukia lacks, don't get me wrong, rukia is cute, just not the cute ichigo is looking for

>>153463610
Why else do you think he worked for Ikumi?

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>>153463610
I can respect his choice.

>>153440942
Ikkaku had the shittiest Shikai of all, and his Bankai was just plain pathetic. I'm pretty sure even Chad could beat him.

>>153466131
Nah, even without his Bankai Ikkaku simply outskills Chad, he's had way more combat experience and it shows in each of his fights.

>>153439684
Nah.
Simply because SS was good. Hey, it was what made Bleach really successfull and part of the so called Big 3.
The problems came afterwards, since Kubo had no fucking idea what to do next.

>>153439438
I rather miss old Ichigo.
He was fun and even a break from "dumb shounen MC", too.
Later he was just the guy who rushed in at the end and wins.

>>153438198
Just realising that Bleach is bullshit? Whew too you long enough. Kubo was literally just making shit up on the spot after soul society.

>>153453877
Blood War was an atrocity and killed Bleach for good.
The Aizen war was bad, but it properly concluded things.

>>153467246
Please read the thread.

>>153467054
It's funny how many (me included) thought it was the opposite - that Kubo introduced the mysterious Vizards, tons of (seemingly) super-strong arrancars, brought Tatsuki back to the table with her finding out Ichigo was a Shinigami, having something in mind. Heck, even "the last quincy" Ryuuken and Uryuu's vow. We expected some kind of multi-factioned conflict, character development, some goal.
Turns out he was just introducing all these characters like crazy to deal with writer block.
I don't mean it's bad thing, not everything has to be planned. It's a shame though he wasn't able to properly handle them.

>>153438198
Kind of agree. The "Doubling everything's weight" bankai was pretty OP considering you can defeat anyone just by touching them, but it was given to what was at most a secondary character.

Liked it as a kid, but now compared to dbz and naruto its boring and the shit they wear is a bit lame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACq7tgjHdGA

>>153466507
Chad beat a Privaron Espada with little effort, Ikkaku could barely defeat a Fraccion and got his ass handed to him by another Fraccion's BASE FORM. And now that Ikkaku's Bankai is broken, he's even weaker.

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We never got to see this niggers bankai, but it's probably for the best.

By that point Kubo was so checked out it probably would've been a giant lightning rod that shit bees or something.

>>153469945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8kbeqCoRhM

>>153470433
digging these manga/anime evaluation videos

>>153470433
And Part 2, not on his channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96N3bNpdZBQ

>>153453877

is this the final chart or did some anons go all the way to the final chapter with a chart update?

>>153469460
That was a Shikai

>>153470267
Power levels among Fraccion are inconsistent, but all of the Arrancar created using the Houyoku are stronger than those who were not. Defeating a Privarron Espada isn't actually a very big deal, while some Fracction are Captain level or higher.

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>>153463610
Even Renji likes oppai. She just happened to win his heart before he realizes that.

>>153472429
>but all of the Arrancar created using the Houyoku are stronger than those who were not
Was Edorad created with the Houyoku though?

>>153472542
Yes, as were most of the Fraccion. The Privarron, Grand Fisher, and a few of the random arrancar from early HM were from the older generation of Arrancar who didn't use the Hougyoku to evolve, and were therefore imperfect.

>>153472731
What about starrk? He was natural

>>153472854
Pretty sure himself and Ulquiorra were the only exceptions to the rule. Barragan, harribel, grimmjow, ect. were all hollows before they met Aizen.

>>153472854
His technique was inherently suicidal. The guy could have benefited from getting a beach chair and a tanning mirror and spent an hour a night sunbathing with his other half in front of the deus-ex-gem or any of the hundreds of false ones they had just lying around in the PSP continuity.
>Starrk with a tan from a dark mugen character edit that phases to a bronze during battle
>Shunsui asks who he goes to get such a lively glow

Whatever happened to Grimmjow? did Askin kill him or what

>>153476635
I think we're going to find out in the new novel. Judging by the fact Yoruichi and Urahara are still alive, I think he and Nel survived.

>>153441736
screw a back up weapon, why doesn't he just spam full-chant kido after activating his bankai? he uses them all the time outside of combat.

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>>153472459
True love overcomes sexual preferences. How inspiring.

>Create a character whose Shikai can heal all wounds inflicted on somebody.
>Its able to take all the damage dealt and send it back at their opponent 10x.
>Somehow not a lieutenant like their brother.
>Their brother just disappeared with no answers.
>The character just disappears with no answer.

Fucking, Kubo.

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>>153479181
you can't tell me he didn't convert to preferring booteh after seeing her peach in the nude tho

>>153479386
it's all about the reiatsu, otherwise Kira would be a captain, but yeah, what the fuck happened to his brother?

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>>153479405

So what were your favorite, creative powers?

>>153480513
shinigami: Kyoraku's bankai and shikai
arrancar: respira and teatro de titeres
fullbringer: tie between jackpot knuckle and invaders must die
quincy: death dealing and sklaverei

>tfw blwach hype died too soon and we never got sternritter doujins

>>153453982
>He lost against once in part 2 with As Nodt
He didnt really and he days so himself, he just lost it as soon as it got activated

>>153439438
>>153451240
My niggas.
Karakura was the best part of Bleach.
Kubo had gotten the comfy down, it could've been the ghost hunting battle manga YYH never was. While I do think SS had the best battles it went downhill after it, the otherworldly settings got old pretty quickly.
That bit between SS and HC with the Visard is a great example that Bleach worked better in the town.
Not to mention Tatsuki, Keigo and Mizuiro were a thousand times more entertaining than the captains.

>>153445831
>Everyone unanimously agree

>>153445831
>Everyone unanimously agree that the only real highlight in Bleach was Kenpachi who just said "fuck all that shit" and fought like a man.

Fuck off, he was an overrated character that was shit at the end of the day. I can't believe Unohana and Yachiru died for that jobber.

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>>153481343
Out of all the potential that was squandered, this is probably the worst.