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Chance.
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>>153208517
One of the best eps
Masterful
Chance
German
Memes
Philosophy
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I like that episode
I remember how I immediately liked Asuka with her hyperactive behavior
Best girl
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She's bad news.
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>>153209320
>all that symbolism in one frame
THE MASTER
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Asuka is cute!
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I think that asuka and rei are wonderful characters both, and the each time I browse a waifu war thread I die a little inside
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>>153209646
I have and shall continue to wish to call you 'friend'. Better hurry though...
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>>153209803
>>153209646
because you're all wrong and misato's best girl
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>>153210074
cuck
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>>153210168
>not wanting to be misato's shota fucktoy

really made me think
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>>153210185
wtf i love being cucked by kaji now
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>>153210354
how can I be cucked by a corpse
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>>153209320
Wait. Why is there a a slihouette of a U-2 and a Dornier on that conning tower?
Is Anno like a closet Miyazaki?
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>>153212145
Nah, that's just how any Nimitz-class carrier looks like. But Anno is a military otaku, since half of his characters are named after IJN ships. And one american. And a german one. And one british.
What's funny and not at the same time is that USS Langley was sunk during the battle of Java sea by 9 diving bombers. Coincidence? I think not.
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>>153209646
This guy knows what's up, all the female characters in Eva are great and add to the story.
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>>153209387
>all that symbolism
what symbolism?
please don't answer something like "lol you're an idiot" or "this is nu-/a/ for you" because that would imply you were only trying to sound smart without knowing what you were talking about
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>>153208517
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>>153213409
hot
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>>153213266
First of all, the Sun above Asuka which creates a subtext of distinguishing her from Rei who was previously in the series (particularly in episode 6 during talk before battle and during every closing titles) associated with the Moon. So here we have Asuka, who's bright and energetic like Sun and everyone can see that beautiful girl even from afar and then we have Rei, who's mysterious like Moon, shining gently in the night. Second we have Asuka's wide stance which translated from body language symbolizes her wish to be in command, to hold things in her own hands and to be in control of every situation she's in. Third we have her position. She's on a bridge of an aircraft carrier literally and figuratively looking down on newly arrived Misato and the Stooges (sounds like blues band name). It shows us how she likes to look on people in general, from unreachable heights, to appear and be better than them. There you have it, three symbols in one shot. Also you could tie in here some of Asuka's origin and deduce how Anno draws a parallel between a foreigner and western civilization in general. We see her in industrial environment, the massive conning tower of a nuclear aircraft carrier behind. It symbolises the industrial nature of western capitalism and their style of life, which can be considered foreign to oriental people who prefer the peace of nature to loud machines (see: Miyazaki). Furthermore, said differences can be projected onto Asuka and Shinji's different take on romance and sex, but that's a different story. But I can continue rambling if you insist. Also nu-/a/, everyone.
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>>153213409
>he's such a sad human being that the only way he can feel like he has worth as a person is by going around and spaming the same images in multiple threads
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>>153213728
Go on
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What is the appeal to this show anyways? I want to pick it up, but i have never been a big fan of Mech animes to begin with, but this anime is posted almost every week? It's wayyy past its prime but people still talk about it and shitpost waifus on a regular basis.
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>>153212666
Look at the "tower" again. If that's not a U-2 with all correct measurements, I will choke myself in front of a webcam and put the picture in the thread.
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>>153213924

watching it for the first time now. it definitely has that appeal
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>>153213924
It's more about relationships, self-love and German philosophy. Also, there's exactly one mech in the show, and only for one episode.
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>>153213924
I'm not into mecha either and this is my favourite anime, give it a watch anon
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>>153213924
>but i have never been a big fan of Mech animes
You're in luck, since NGE is considered a deconstruction of the mecha genre (it doesn't have the typical features/qualities of mecha animes)
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>>153213813
So about romance and sex. As we know Shinji and Asuka's main problem throughout the series is the problem of communication and inability to understand. The theme of unability to understand one another despite being very very similiar in nature is reinforced once again by the fact that Asuka's the foreign girl who constantly complains about Japanese culture (one of these talks is her take on doors in Misato's house, showing us the primary difference between individualistic Western civilization and collectivist Eastern one). The problem sometimes was mistaken as "Shinji constantly rejects her", which it isn't of course, it's retarded in a sense that Shinji can't reject anyone in the first place, he's hungry for love. The problem is "Shinji doesn't understand what she wants from him" and she wants him to reach out to her and care about her, since she clearly sees how similar they are (that's why she always calls him stupid, it's a defense mechanism to distinguish herself from her true self, which she's constantly reminded of). In a sense of romance and sex, Asuka, true to barriers she built around herself, sees sex and love as a competition, she wants Kaji, her "ideal", to notice her, offers herself to him etc., just like it's seen in the West. Shinji, who was never told that he's loved etc. sees it in a romantic context, with a person caring for him, saying beautiful words to him, reassuring him of his importance etc. His "ideal" is Kaworu, a typical bishounen prince, based on a soft oriental take on romance. There you have it, when Asuka tells Shinji about "The Wall of Jericho" (subconsciously arranging the term to walls around her heart) she gives the words a sexual context, context of aggressiveness, which empowers her barriers in general. So she wants him to understand her take on romance and "crash" the Wall of Jericho. But he's unable to understand, given his own problems and how he tries to see it (through his barriers too, of course).
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>>153214372
>Tfw you don't get laid cuz you didn't read the bible
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>>153214027
It looks really similar, but check this, senpai.
Over the Rainbow is designated as CVN 075, which is an IRL designation for USS Harry S. Truman, the United States Navy Nimitz-class nuclear aircraft carrier.
So you see the tower is exactly the same.
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Asuka is a shit character with no development.
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>>153215200
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>>153215200
That's a funny way to spell Rei, anon.
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>>153214679
Holy crap those details are barely visible or relevant on the model, but the Master took the time to draw each and every one correctly.
I can't reconcile the image of Anno as someone who's reads thousand page books with the image of Anno who draws carriers with perfect accuracy, or with the image of Anno as someone who dresses up and plays with figures. It's like they're three different people to me.
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>>153215413
That's his brilliance, he truly enjoys and values what he does, a real otaku, THE otaku, not the shallow shells who fap to pics
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>>153214372
I like your synthesis of their relationship, anon.
Have you seen Shin Godzilla maybe? Anno's much more open about American influence and imperialism in the movie than he is in Eva.
>>153214628
The Bible will just make you perverted and feel anxiety. Same as Eva.
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>>153215573
>Have you seen Shin Godzilla maybe
Nope, but I really consider to pick it up, I'm just short on time. It's really as good as everybody says, is it? I really enjoy kaiju movies and would like to see what Anno can do after that short film for his tokusatsu props exhibition
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>>153209646
Stop hurting this anon's feelings, cunts
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>>153215332
>>153215396
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>>153214372
Those barriers are broken at the end of EOE right?
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At the same time though, that badass modern sunken ruin is Ito submerged for kilometers and their coast in unchanged. And their map of it was copied from Yokohama. He's not about grand visions or attention to detail in general, he likes the things he likes.
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>>153213409
Crackship thread?
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>>153215904
Judging by Asuka's unnaturally (in relation to her barriers, not to her true self) good-natured gesture (caress) and by Evangelion's reinforced themes of hope and love (the talk about which is presented with Rei and Kaworu (or rather Lilith and Adam) literally before Shinji leaves the sea of LCL) I would say they did break, at least at some extent. But anon, it's important for you to understand that and go on living without your barriers. So stop posting ship pics from Die Sterne and find yourself a gf (of course no one will be as perfect as Asuka, but still)
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>>153216216
also thread theme by based Takahashi inspired by based Anno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOss8fmsf24
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Question:
Do all lilith based lifeforms become one in instrumentality?
Are there penguins in the orange goo?
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>>153208517
>kissanime
Christ.
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>>153209646
Arianism vs Homoousionism will be considered a joke compared with the Rei/Asuka wars.
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>>153216625
>Are there penguins in the orange goo?
Baka anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL7aumOZfms
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>>153216692
I just grabbed a thumbnail off of Google Images.

Whats wrong with Kissanime anyways?
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>>153216969
IT'S CONFIRMED
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF ANIMALS IN INSTRUMENTALITY


Also latino spanish is fucking gross
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>>153216216
what makes you think I dont have a gf anon?

Thing is, I used to like their relationship when I was a teenager, their example and the anime catapulted me to get out of my insecurities.
There was this really cute girl that I liked but I was shy as fuck, until I saw NGE and decided to - break the at field barrier, I know it sounds weeb as fuck - but it worked!

We dated for a while, breaked up for like 6 years and got back a year ago. I am thinking on proposing her. Doubt she goes to 4chan anyway.
She is really cool because despite being this, nice social person she doesnt mind my geekery and finds it pretty cool when I am around to introduce heit to her on a social language that she gets hehe.

In short, use NGE to catapult and get that "asuka" of your life. It worked for me, it hurt but ultimately I managed.
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>>153217049
That, and the suggestions for Mexican Pen Pen are kind of awesome.
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>>153217132
Gut yourself you blogging normalfag swine.
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>>153217153
I wonder if Zizek would enjoy EVA
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>>153217132
Oh, wow, congratulations, Anon! I truly feel happy for you, you actually did what Anno wanted people to do: listened to him and tried to change yourself. You are the one who understood him. Not the blabbing neckbeards like this one >>153217192. おめでとう!
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>>153217401
Where do you think you are, fuckface?
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>>153217476
Why, in your mom's pussy of course
>muh secrid club
you're the one who should neck himself, family member
have a Rei
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>>153217192
>>153217476
I guess you didnt get the "Asuka" of your life.

>>153217401
thanks anon.
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>>153209320
Asuka looks spooky here.
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>>153216216
I met someone like her on Monday. Maybe I see her again, she really enjoyed giving me attention and I want to spend more time with her.
Also time spent on good art or a good story is never wasted time.
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>>153217584
>advocating 3DPD or not wanting /a/ to have less traffic i.e normalfags
I'm just going to assume this is all bait.
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>>153217391
He would prefer not to.
We need to get someone to ask him to watch Eva. And then explain what it is. Preferrably in front of a live audience, I want to see his reaction.
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>>153217608
Find your way into a grave so you can stop polluting /a/ and the internet at large. Or just stop polluting life in general.
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>>153217608
If you actually did, then you should go for it, of course
Let it be magical and beautiful. I watched Eva with my childhood friend (she was 15, I was 17) and after we actually got it and understood it we became the closest two can get I guess. Of course we began dating and there's no other human whom I'm more open to. This anime is one of the greatest pieces of media one can watch, if he doesn't read books that much.
>>153217746
This is Eva thread, Eva is a cure which should turn you into a "normalfag", here you witness anons being examples of such a transformation, if they are not bullshitting.
>>153217391
I also wonder about that *sniff*
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>>153217879
>becoming a normalfag
>a cure for anything
Sounds like the only cure you'll be needing is a bullet to the head.
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>>153217879
This is it, /a/ of 2017 everyone. Where the newsfags are so new you have unironic normalfag worship and unrepentant blogging. I'd tell you to lurk more but I don't even want you to lurk.
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>>153217947
I guess I do anon, I guess I do
This is why I also see discussions of Eva on 4chan as kind of bland
>>153218015
Yeah, I guess I forgot where I am, sorry, senpai
Fuck 3DPD I'm out to worship my waifu's feets
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Captain Katsuragi, I'm NERV
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>>153218181
you're a big girl
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>>153218015
How's that layered field working for you, anon? Afraid that an evil woman will try and steal your goo?
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>>153218181
>>153218349
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>>153218406
What are you, some incel piece of shit who gives a fuck about 3DPD? I don't give enough of a fuck about 3DPD to be afraid of them, let alone want to interact with them.
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>>153218349
>>153218451
Tell me about Ikari! Why doesn't he get in the fucking robot?!
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>>153218599
Would you die if I destroy your ATField?
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>>153218599
You merely adopted the robot. I was made from the robot.
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>>153218737
It could be a very, very comfortable feeling.
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>>153218750
...molded by it. I didn't pilot til I was already cloned!
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>>153218795
If I took off your mask would you die?
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>>153218850
it would be extremely Impactful
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>>153216216
>and find yourself a gf
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>>153218920
For (you).
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I met Asuka's English voice actor at a con a few years ago.

She is a hoot.
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Can I get a basic Gestalt?
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>>153214372
So in other words, Asuka wants Shinji to pursue (or otherwise be an active, aggressive participant in courtship), and acts that way, while Shinji wants a Asuka to be laid back, tender, otherwise calm and slow with him, and treats her that way. They both want the same thing, but have different ideas about how to get there, and each perceive the others actions as a rejection of their idea of how reaching their goal should be pusued (Shinji sees Asuka's aggression as dislike, and Asuka sees Shinji's passivity as apathy).
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>>153219127 see >>153219450
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>>153216018
At least those two characters actually met. And I don't remember how much of Maya's lesbianism is just fanwank.
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>>153219609
None of it
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>>153219609
She was tang'd by the Doctor.
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>>153219450
Exactly, that is literally voiced in EoE during Instumentality by both of them
>"You don't understand me"
>"Why won't you just try being nice to me"
>>153218181
>>153218349
>>153218451
>>153218599
>>153218737
>>153218750
>>153218771
>>153218795
>>153218850
>>153218920
>>153218981
>>153219023
>tfw we /tv/ now
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>>153214372
didn't Asuka seiyuu said she isn't attracted to Shinji?
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>>153219670
And Shigoru (sp?) was tang'd by a swarm of 14 year old Albinos, but I don't get the impression that's his sexual orientation.
>>153219648
Oh, right, it's been a while. I should rewatch NGE again instead of reading godawful fanfics in my spare time.
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>>153218771
Four you.
>>153219706
I'll take fun shitposting over waifu-war shitposting any day of the week, specially if we get to have some decent discussion as well.
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>>153219450
Viscerally. They also both rationally understand what the other is like and that miscommunications are occurring, then forget it again when it's crowded out by more feelings.
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>>153219757
Yes, she did, but I don't see any other good explanation of her actions. Despite that, she said she isn't in love with him. So I guess she was attracted to him and wanted him to understand her, but she was not necessarily in love with him. They are damaged kids, after all, love is hard for them. Also, Miyamura is a hack, I only believe the Master's words. Not fully either though.
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>>153219862
Yeah, some of the actions would make sense, like kissing and being jealous of Rei's relationship with Shinji is not what you do if you aren't attracted.
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>>153219767
>but I don't get the impression that's his sexual orientation
Well he did have access to the Dogma. Maybe when it's his turn to pull a night shift he gets freaky with the dummy plugs.
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>>153209320
something really wrong with the hair placement
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>>153219968
He didn't seem super pumped about it.
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>>153219767
>And Shigoru (sp?) was tang'd by a swarm of 14 year old Albinos, but I don't get the impression that's his sexual orientation.
It's because he's so cynical that there's no one in his life whose form Rei could assume and be a comfort.
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Such a good thread with quality analysis
Why can't we have more of that?
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>>153214372
At least there is one anon to save this thread
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>>153221184
I wonder if we'll get to see those unleashed in the next movie, kind of like in EoE we saw Asuka and Rei's.
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>>153221252
I bet it's all just inflated and she has A's under her plugsuit.
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>>153221252
I wonder if we'll see her buried alive slowly and see the fear in her eyes as they dart around, helpless to even scream because her mouth is sealed up forever and it's only moments before her nose is covered up too.
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>>153221392
That sounds like the start of a beautiful doujin. Play it again, Karl.
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>>153221252
>tfw you want Anno to make 4.0 a philosophical and emotional masterpiece on the level of EoE to get those gut wrenching and depressing feelings again
>tfw the thought of seeing Mari's boobs, the fanservice girl, has an abnormal amount of attraction to it
Anno knows us too well. We're fucking cursed
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>>153217132
That's weeb as fuck, but hey results are results
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what the fuck did i just watch: the anime
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>Play it again, Karl.
Damn it, that Casablanca trans-dimensional ripoff can't leave my head. I guess I'll actually draw an all-ages doujinshi based on it.
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>>153220999
If you think that, you're honestly a newfag.
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>>153213728
>We see her in industrial environment, the massive conning tower of a nuclear aircraft carrier behind. It symbolises the industrial nature of western capitalism and their style of life, which can be considered foreign to oriental people who prefer the peace of nature to loud machines (see: Miyazaki).

Your were right up until this bullshit. The environment of the aircraft carrier is really no different from that of NERV which we have seen in every episode up to that point.
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>>153215573
>The Bible will just make you perverted and feel anxiety. Same as Eva.

Neither will make you feel perverted and anxious unless you were that way to begin with. Fucking degenerate.
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>>153217153
>important videos
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>>153221927
I dunno, they spend a few minutes blathering about how special the carriers are. It's not really the same as NERV
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>>153221927
I was talking about the introduction of a character which is followed by industrial symbolism, not the constant environment characters are in. Despite, did you think about Geofront? Do you remember how it was built? A pyramid, a lake, a forest, even special reflective devices for natural sunlight on top. Definitely an attempt to be closer to nature.
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>>153222090
Damn never thought about that. What else can you say, oh wise one ?
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>>153222196
I have nothing else on mind, tbqh
Here, have a Rei
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>>153222334
What about Gendo, since you posted him ? What can you say about him ? How can he be so hard with his son ? Has he ever loved him ? He only seems to think of getting Yui back
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>>153219586
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>>153222501
But I posted Anno
Well, actually, what I though about Gendo, his words in EoE that he thought he was unworthy of love and therefore distanced himself from Shinji. That supposedly means that he kind of loved him, but was too much like Shinji to open up to him? Because people tend to mess this up with manga, much like they mess up EoTV and EoE. In manga he states that he never loved Shinji since he took Yui away from him, which makes him even more selfish them the original. So what's the true attitude towards Shinji? I also liked the symbolism with Gendo, especially his glasses. His glasses are his AT field, protecting him from outer World. He drops it several times, when he saves Rei, revealing how important she is to him, since she's also a copy of Yui etc. Rei takes his shattered glasses literally a broken man's shattered soul meaning that Rei is a key to Gendo's heart. Makes sense. To reinforce that idea, Gendo's late glasses are orange, much like the AT field in the series.
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>>153222942
Colors actually play a quite significant role it seems. Like we have Unit 00 and Unit 02, which are blue and red, Moon and Sun, and we have Unit 01, which is purple, and purple is a mix of red and blue. What could it mean? Perhaps just coincidence?
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>>153222942
Interesting.

>>153223016
Unit 4 is black (death ?) and the mass produced are white ? Oh maybe they actually are death, since in asian culture, it's a color of mourning, and of course they do kill Asuka. Then what about unit 4
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>>153222942
You're blowing my fucking mind right now anon
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>>153223096
3 is black, probably because of it being a bad omen, and the fourth unit.
4 is white, like you said, the color of mourning, maybe because it never saw the light of day?
I don't know, I'm not that smart.
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>>153223016
>>153222942
Asuka's acent color is the same color of AT fields too
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>>153213409
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>>153223138
How about you actually stop to think about media you watch and start using periods you fucking mongoloid?
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>>153223370
Eh if I'm going to use multiple sentences or ask a question sure why not, but what's the point?
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I think the most unexpected character for me was Kaji turning out to be one of the most chill/cool/nice people in the series

I was constantly waiting for an "lol I'm evil" for the longest time.
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>>153213409
noooo only I should kiss Asuka!
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>>153223260
Yeah shit I meant 3. Always forget they start from 0
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>>153222942
Isn't part of the reason he pushed Shinji away because Shinji reminded him of Yui too much as well? Same as how he got rid of all the pictures of her and shit.
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>>153223690
I don't really understand Kaji, he was the best boy and definitely a better father for Shinji for this small time they spent together, but what was his exact problem? I was rewatching Death and Rebirth some time ago and I remember when they lie together post-coitus she tells him he likes attention but won't open up to people. Or something like this. So was he like Asuka then? I liked his backstory in manga (one of the few things I liked in manga) but I didn't like how he projected his survivor's guilt on Shinji. In the series Shinji comes back to fight Zeruel due to his will to protect his friends (seeing Asuka and Rei's horrible defeat), which shows his character growth, reveals his caring, protective side. But in the manga he does it out of guilt. I didn't like it.
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This thread has given me a much greater apprication of Asuka

Thank you for giving me insight into a character I never exactly liked/understood
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>>153219023
Can someone explain this to me? Why is his hand like that? Is it from Lilith?
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>>153223096
4 is death, if only because of the Japanese fear of the number four.
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>>153223948
I never read the manga, how is it overall?

I think Kaji isn't too deep, but just someone enjoying life meaning he is the most stable in the series.

That manga scene sounds shitty since Shinji was unaware of the plug
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>>153224006
The thing Kaji delivered in Asuka Strikes is the embryonic form of Adam, left behind after 2nd Impcat. He has it implanted in his hand, which is how/why his sticks his fist into Rei to start 3rd Impcat in EoE.
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>>153223096
They have the wings and bare heads of vultures with a little of maggot, they're hella death. Better than that is their naked look without the mask-like appearance the other heads have or the pylons used to lock them to walls, they're unrestrained monsters that still cooperate because they like what they're made to do.
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>purple
>Purple is sometimes associated with spirituality
>Of the colors in the visible spectrum, it is the one that vibrates at the highest frequency
>Shinji has the highest syncronization
>The Bisexual Community uses purple as a symbol because it is between pink, symbolic of homosexuality, and blue, for heterosexuality.
THE MASTER DOES IT AGAIN

As for the white color of eva series, it coulb because they're the ghosts of Kaworu (dummy plugs) and are angels of death
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>>153224273
I think they're also supposed to be angels of death
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>>153224066
Manga wasn't that bad, but considering the fact that I value the series primarily for its characters, personally I didn't really like it. I mean, there are some things that are explored really good, for example flashbacks with Yui and Shunji were amazing, they are one of the most amazing depictions of motherly love I've ever seen, I literally cried at them. As I mentioned before, giving Kaji some backstory was alright. Kaworu was absolutely hilarious in the manga, I couldn't take his character seriously at all. Like, I liked understood him in the anime, from an alien creature point of view, but there he was just an autist who strangles kittens, but I laughed nevertheless. Overall characters are really different, despite what people say about them being close to originals, no, it's not true, different motivations, drives etc.
You should read it, since it has some tears moments which are enjoyable, but the ending was pretty strange. And I didn't like it at all. It was VERY cute and heartwarming, but stupid.
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>>153208517
Asuka turns to a life of crime.
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>>153223859
Yes, that may be
But that point is countered by the fact that Gendo has a living teenage copy of her with a different color palette. I don't think he really needs photos with that souvenir
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>>153224646
What a freak
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>>153224646
He didn't have Rei at the time he ditched Shinji, though, I think. By the time he had Rei, he was so deep in MASTAH PLAN mode that he didn't care to bring Shinji back 'till he needed him; after all, he's going to get his waifu back for realz, so nothing else matters.
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>>153224676
>>153224646
I think he treats her as his daughter

Considering Shinji's/Yui's flashback on how to name him

Shinji if it's a boy, Rei if it's a girl.
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>>153224772
How could such a batshit insane faggot ever obtain the direction of nerv ?
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>>153224837
It's still unhealthy as hell
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>>153213409
This ship always has a soft spot on me. Dunno why.
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>>153224837
>I think he treats her as his daughter
Which is to say, poorly.

Rei knows quite clearly what her purpose is and is deeply cognizant of how expendable she really is. Up until she starts to warm up to Shinji, she's more or less waiting to die.
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>>153224845
Because he created it
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>>153224772
Good point, I missed that. It actually makes sense if we imagine how it all looked like. Shinji probably freaked out since kid lost his mother and Gendo had troubles both with connecting to him on parental level and being constantly reminded that your wife is dead.
>>153224837
Indeed, she was as close as it could get for a daughter to Gendo. He really was worried about her, despite having a tank with over9000 more Reis, as I already mentioned with the glasses symbolism. Even deployed Unit 01 when she was in danger
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>>153224895
I think that's why she treasured Gendo's glasses so much

"He saved this redundant clone, he saved her and hurt himself just for me as an individual"
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>>153213409
Ok I'm triggered
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>>153213409
Don't do this to my girlfriend!
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>>153224895
>Up until she starts to warm up to Shinji, she's more or less waiting to die
You're right, but there's still more to it with her and Gendo. People tend to miss the point of Unit 00's berserk scene. Ritsuko mentions that it was mental instability of a pilot that caused the incident. So Rei truly felt like she was just used and unneeded until that point. Than Gendo saves her. She now wants to die, but not to just die out of being useless and expendable, she wants to die for him, for Gendo. Anno shows us it again when we see Rei in her next contact expirement. She sits in a plug and her eye lay on Gendo's glasses she brought with herself. She's once again reinfirced with the idea of being needed and useful and succeeds at experiment. Rei's as human as Shinji and Asuka are, she too wants to be loved and needed, God, poor girl
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>>153223948
in the original series he's just depressed in the more ordinary sense and trying to make the most of life
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>>153225158
To further reinforce how Gendo is important to Rei we are shown the tit grope scene. At first it may seem like a usual fanservice scene, but fanservice in Eva is rarely just what it is. Shinji falls on Rei, accidentally gropes her tit and... she doesn't give a fuck. Like at all, what she wants is glasses. What I expected,from her was a slap. But no. And when does she slap him? That's right, when he shits on Gendo. She values him much more than herself.
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>>153225158
She strikes me as someone who was never properly cultured. Almost as if Gendo ignored her growing up, and the rest of NERV stayed away. The concept of emotional attachment are almost foreign to her and she's constantly alone, even when she should be hounded by boys in class.

You're right, she's like Shinji in that she's alone, but I'm not sure she's even emotionally aware of that to understand what she's feeling, much less how to change that.
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>>153225158
I always assumed EVA-00 went berserk because the soul in its core is that of Rei I who was trying to kill Ritsuko in revenge for Naoko strangling her, hence why Ritsuko knows the EVA was aiming for her
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>>153225321
You are right, but it went berserk because Rei was unstable, what happens next is probably what you describe. It's reinforced by a shot we see through Unit 00's eyes. Ritsuko has brown hairin it. And it couldn't be a techincal error since every small detail is colored right.
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>>153225413
> Ritsuko has brown hairin it
Fuck really ? Shit we're going deeper and deeper
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I don't think I'll ever find a day when I'm not surprised/find something new in NGE

This show is really something else
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>>153225284
Given how she was hanging out with Akagi the elder, I gather that she pretty much raised Rei for the first 4 years. I bet getting literally murdered by the closest thing you have to a mother figure isn't exactly conducive to proper development.
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>>153224772
He still saw Shinji at least annually, it was Shinji who broke all contact for more than 3 years until Gendo tricked him with a blacked out letter.

From how Shinji's memory works and stuff he screams at Rei during blackouts, it's plausible but not important Shinji ran in 2011 because Gendo brought his new kid.
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>>153225695
>stuff he screams at Rei during blackout
Huh?
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>>153224845
Nepotism
Yui worked for Seele & got him the position, Gendo was a nobody & even changed his surname to hers because hes a cuck
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>>153225695
Holy shit I love all that detail on VTOL, Anno definitely faps to military
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>>153225819
Or at his image of Rei during dissociative episodes if you like.
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>>153225856
Not exactly. Yui's father was a high ranking SEELE member. Gendo was ambitious as fuck and once he was in, he used her influence to get a higher position. Also, it's not unheard of for a man to take his wife's surname in Japan, especially if she's much higher socially.

The only hitch in the plan was that he fell in love with Yui.
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>>153225856
everyone goes on about how fucked up Gendo is, but isn't Yui just as bad?

>works for her father's shadowy authoritarian elite and seems quite happy about it
>keeps her true plans re: the contact experiment secret from everyone she knows and causes them distress and lasting trauma
>abandons her own kid for much of his formative years to pursue her own transhumanist ideals
>even though Shinji eventually discovers her soul is in EVA-01 she fucks off again at the end of EoE, leaving him to deal with the hellscape she facilitated his creation of
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>>153225662
I don't think she raised her, but she would've been the closest thing to a maternal-figure.
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>>153226049
Im not sure if Yui knew Eva-01 was going to eat her soul, did she?
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>>153213728
kudos2u informedanon
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>>153226049
I also was wondering about this, but let's think
>works for her father's shadowy authoritarian elite and seems quite happy about it
Well, she wasn't really happy, actually, that's why she started all this. They were planning to kill her.
>keeps her true plans re: the contact experiment secret from everyone she knows and causes them distress and lasting trauma
Probably because Gendo wouldn't let her do it if he knew and it also may have caused info leak. But she told Fuyutsuki.
>abandons her own kid for much of his formative years to pursue her own transhumanist ideals
Well, she left him for Gendo, I don't think she expected him to abandon Shinji and become obsessed with her
>even though Shinji eventually discovers her soul is in EVA-01 she fucks off again at the end of EoE, leaving him to deal with the hellscape she facilitated his creation of
That's a secret for me, actually, but she wanted it to be so
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>>153226134
pretty sure it was her plan all along because she agreed with SEELE's ideas and wanted to be a lasting testament to humanity
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>>153226049
They were working to prevent the extinction of mankind. Second Impact was triggered to give humanity some time.

She told Fuyutsuki what she was doing; SEELE wanted to save themselves and no one else, and she knew they were planning to kill her. They talk about it in one of the flashbacks.

>>153226134
Yes, it was her plan. She could've come out, but she chose to stay inside 01 so she could protect and influence Shinji. He was the key to her plan; to reject Instrumentality and only keep humanity's souls as an ark through Third Impact. That was one of the reasons why she tempted Shinji repeatedly when he turned into LCL for a month; she wanted to know if she could trust him.
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>>153226134
She absolutely knew.
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>>153222090
nonsense, but i like it

the design was just the brilliance of the master and the autistic fantasies of a secret fortress city of the same ilk as Macross - commandeered alien vessel that had crash landed - for which the surrounding geolocale was subsumed into a human city because humanity.
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>>153226245
Hes still doing that fucking pose
>>153226234
>Second Impact was triggered to give humanity some time.

Explain further, because ive watched it like 10 times & never quite understood why they allowed it to happen
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>>153226024
yeah this adult adoption shit blew my mind when i heard about it, and it seems like names are of a similar construct

it is very much frowned upon to revert back to your original name tho
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Anyone got any good fan fiction around for NGE
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>>153226407
Rebuild
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>>153226319
Because Adam was weakened and they tricked the researchers doing it instead of Lilith proper. We're removed from her enough that it didn't destroy the globe.
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>>153226438
I said good anon
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>>153226407
yeah dude there's fucking tons of good and even some greats

>>153226319
adam wuz scary
we had no ability to break an AT field, experiments on adam were slow going, adam woke up, lance was expunged into him as fail safe i believe?

>>153226245
I think she knew. She's described as even more of a control freak than Gendou; she was defined by her intellect and curiosity rather than the compartmentalized-fractions representation of a woman (magi:::naoko), and she wanted to meet the aliens/live forever to "guard the knowledge that humanity existed".

Basically she's the most self-serving, sacrificing, caring, but ultimately utilitarian character of the series.
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>>153226451
Lilith was found later right or is Adam+Lilith(portion) the second impact?
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>>153226407

Re-Take of Eva
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>>153226407
Depends on what you prefer. I haven't read much myself and I usually preferred character study. There were several fics that describe Shinji's thoughts a-la The Catcher in the Rye, you may read that Genocide fic by Rommel, I heard its retarded, but he got the characters right at some extent.
Actually, there's not too much truly good fiction I guess. Just lurk more if you're into it
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>>153226319
Naoko might be the funnier part.
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>>153226407
I went on fanfiction dot net and I can't find one good story where they at least can knock down Asuka and Shinji's toxic relationship

>>153226645
Only EVA story with sort of quality among the thousands of stories.
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Alright, all this postmodern really made me want to show NGE to Mr Sniffles here. How do we do that?
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>>153226407
i honestly don't remember the names at all, but here's some places to look
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/233544/IA-Seldon
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/64284/Random1377
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/64740/Ryoma
http://www.studioshinnyo.com/eva.html
https://e-hentai.org/s/0b8adf7db5/622057-7

holy shit went through the leddit recommends and there is way more than when i left the community

Gotta say the hit to miss ratio is tiny for fanfiction, and even these recommends may not stand up, but these were my favorite authors minus one or two.
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>>153218451
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>>153226865
yeah rommel is a maybe i would say.
i wish seldon hadn't taken down all his shit
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>>153227043
>implying he isn't Gendo IRL
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>>153227043
I'd much rather see what someone like Jordan Peterson would have to say. Postmodernism is a self-masturbatory disaster
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>>153226407
Scar Tissue: post-3rd-I Edge leading towards a light at the end of the tunnel (not a train). Who'da thunk that after the end of the world, everyone favorite emotional cripples get worse rather than better until they fuck up so bad they finally see the error of their ways?

Nobody Dies: Cuh-ray-zee. Author ditched for the most part, but the first half is pretty good (gets bogged down in crazy set pieces rather than advancing the story, and there's some bullshit "all a dream" reset of a huge swatch of later chapters). Most of the characters are nearly new characters due to backstory changes.

The 2nd Try: the only "lol go back in time" fic to actually fucking FINISH. Also justifies Shinji (and Asuka) being in a better mental state during the reset; it takes place several years after 3rdI, rather than right afterward.
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>>153226407
Sadamoto's manga is borderline fan fiction at some points
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>>153227112
>>153226865
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/237083/1/The-Second-Child-Promises-To-Keep might be up your alley, then. Follows Asuka through 3rd Impact to see what she sees and feels as Shinji goes through everything.
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>>153227240
not really given that kawoshin is 100% canon
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>>153227255
i'll take a look, I haven't read any in a long ass time

>>153227199
yeah these are all new, I have no idea. Usually stuff that wasn't minor reworkings of the series were crap - unless they were one-off concept pieces/character exposés.

>>153227240
this is definitely true
he flanderises almost every major character, and while they lead to different outcomes the traits themselves make the characters feel flat imo.

still worth reading

>>153227193
Yeah i'm sure he'd have valuable things to say about the global communist revolution being organized at your local gender studies faculty. Gtfo faggot, you wouldn't know a good speaker if he showed up and conquered your country.
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>>153227240
Manga Kaworu was the best shit ever
My god I just shit myself on his autism every time I read it
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>>153227396
>only knowing Jordan Peterson for the whole gender issue shit

What are Jungian archetypes anon
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>>153226319
They turned Adam into an embryo, causing the Angels to seek Lilith instead. Gendo's (and Yui's?) plan for 3rd Impact revolves around using the embryo as well. I don't know what Seele needed it for; it's possible they used the embryo to make the MP Evas; IIRC the MP's, as well as 02 (possibly all Eva's besides 01?) are based off of Adam rather than Lilith. Kaworu is presumably an Adam-based equivalent to Rei, as well, and he was their plan for Instrumentality, come to think.

tl;dr 2nd Impact was triggered to weaken Adam to a form Seele/Gendo could control and use for their plans.
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>>153227424
that's the only reason he's relevant, and the man spouts incoherent rhetoric most of the time, so why should I bother having to read about his interpretations of another writer whose influence and ideas were more important?

he sounds like a hack in a field full of hacks
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>>153227553
>why should I bother having to read about his interpretations of another writer whose influence and ideas were more important?

Thats literally all that Zizek does
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>>153227588
zizek is the equivalent of popular science articles - it is interesting fluff

He refers to himself as a celebrity philosopher, and he got to live a particular lifestyle because of it, which likely changed his idea of his audience. He got positive feedback for the less structured ideas, and quick reflections on pop culture than any broader system of philosophy, so that's what he gives us - tidbits.

I think he would be interesting to listen because of his diction
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>>153227711
yeah, Pervert's Guide to Cinema/Idealogy are underrated
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>>153227811
They are thoroughly entertaining, and so are the the comments section of (his) social media posts.

so, have you been in the Peterson's mythology classes, and are they good?

i just glossed over jungian archetypes and I have to say I'd much rather read about the mythology of Type-Moon like a filthy tertiary.

I gotta say his comments on enjoyment and western culture are something the stoics talked about.
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there is so many delusional normal fags here who dont realize that asuka will just use shinji as an emotional tissue then quickly drop him for a rich, smart, funny, and alpha bad boy
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>>153228475
Because the world fucking ended.
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>>153228475
Then why is it that (going off of the mind rape scenes), she had mentally ditched Kaji for Shinji pretty early on? I think you are the normal-fag here.
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>>153228475
her value system was entirely based around eva, and her attraction to Kaiji was mostly because he was around. The older part helped too (re: Daddy issues).

Dropping Shinji is irrelevant; Shinji was her rival, could have been her best friend, and would have been someone she shared the most traumatic and intimate life-events with (fighting for each others' lives).

Anything else may have been interesting for a time, but she'd probably gravitate back to Shinji is that were an option.
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>>153228475
>ditches every guy who tries to ask her out
>ditches her date, compliments Shinji on his music and tries to get him to kiss her

Reminder Shinji was beside Kaji in her mind, telling her she was just a child.
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Get this shippershit out of here.
>>153228475
It's just one codependency to other. Better but still.
>>153228812
Shinji was Asuka going easymodo. If Shinji "King Omega" Ikari rejects you, you're garbage.
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>Asuka put herself in the Wall of Jericho when Misato was gone while her and Shinji were alone
>The walls infamously known for easily being destroyed and violated what's inside
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>>153229237
Meant for >>153228812
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>>153229191
Yep, one of the reasons no guy in their right mind will marry her.

Misato on the other hand is a better woman, if only she gets off the booze.
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>>153229237
She looks like she was in heat in this scene.
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>>153228690
>her attraction to kaji is mostly because he was around
nope, he plays hard to get(but not likely since she was a teen) and has other female options thus it entertains her competitive ego and plays on her inate desire for human males that are competitive(getting the chicks for the longterm) and well resourcsed males.
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>>153225909
I think the big militar otaku in the old Gainax was Sadamoto.
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>>153228812
>>153229237
>>153229421
asukas love for shinji is merely friendship because they can relate to each other's feeling of abandonment(albeit they delt with it a different way) and nothing more. can u people honestly believe the human race can survive with those two in the lead by the end of eoe?
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>>153229566
>>153228690
I thought she did those things with Kaji because she wanted to be noticed as an adult. Being called a child is her kryptonite.
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>>153229566
she has no one else close to her; she fawns over him like a kid, and of she always gets shut down when she tries to learn more about him, as do - probably - all women. She can't genuinely think of him as an option, and she didn't consider people in university options either by her flippant description of dating.

The only option is an equal who will meet with her on common ground. Kaiji will not; Shinij would not
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>>153209646
I like you
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>>153229797
Then maybe she shouldn't have kissed him. Friends don't kiss!
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>>153229797
Friends don't masterbate onto other friends while in a coma
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>>153229927
asuka initiated that because she was bored and filling the hole in her heart because she is not wanted by kaji and settled for shinji(in which he fails gloriously)
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>>153229797
They're not the only two people and love isn't some star-crossed nonsense. They'll survive, fuck, and bond: it's basic human instinct.

Unless there's a lot more of the world left and she has her options open.
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>>153229867
0% chance
if she really did want to be an adult she coulda gotten her brain fucked out of her in University, and probably already be married to some untouchable tenured Prof. She was a trust fund genius; she could have turned her life as 'adult' as she like. She just wanted acknowledgement from the person closest to her, and she pushed her feelings of lust onto a safe outlet - the only close male relationship she had.

If Kaiji had taken her up on it think about those ramifications to her and him
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>>153229927
being called a child isnt her kryptonite(sh technically she so what is the shame in that?) but not being accepted, like shinji, is.
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>>153229927
being called a child isnt her kryptonite(she technically is so what is the shame in that?) but not being accepted, like shinji, is.
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>>153229867
Her loins were burning and she wanted cock bad. I mean she's 14.

That said, calling her a child pisses her off because her ego is too tightly wound and her superiority complex is the only way she can cope with her mother's death.
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>>153229237
There's more, Asuka commands that good children go to bed early. She does not think of herself as a child, it's a challenge to get on her level and stop being one. He doesn't and she's dragged back to his level instead. Same strategy with same result when she challenges him to kissing.
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>>153230587
A large part of her character involved forcing herself to grow up quickly/early

Then Rebuilds was all like let's actually age her up!
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>>153230424
>>153230464
okay you faggot the fact that theyre able to change for each other by the end of the movies prove they are meant for each other and gives me hope for the survival of the humankind.
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>>153230364
Whats to say she didn't sleep around? Also in her mind she thinks Kaji and Shinji think of her as a child, this is what keeps her up at night.

I doubt she loved him, and if she found out Kaji's true intentions on the children should would have hated him. That I can tell you. 100%. If Kaji didn't keep secrets and told the truth, things would have been different. Asuka would not have been tumbling down.

>>153230143
Bullshit, that was just an excuse on being bored. You don't kiss out of bordom.

She was looking for affection, considered the rejection as a shot against her pride. In her mind she thinks Shinji and Kaji consider her a child. Combine that with her epic failure as a pilot.


>>153230424
She wants to be considered as an adult, being reminded that she is like Shinji is what drives her mad. That she's just a scared little girl, a pathetic child. Not an elite warrior.
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>>153230821
>Whats to say she didn't sleep around?
She was like, twelve. She's barely developed at fourteen.
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>>153230821
Asuka's complex is to fight against abandonment(not being useless) which is why she is competitive in beating rei at the sync dance, using the eva effectively, beating misato at getting kaji, taking the lead in finding the right way in when central dogma shutdown, etc.
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>>153226798
>>153226645
>Re-Take
Its crap, trust me all it did was turn Asuka into a glorified fuck-puppet.
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>>153226407
>>153226938
>Only EVA story with sort of quality among the thousands of stories.
Bitch, you didn't search hard enough.
https://e-hentai.org/g/68275/7227d91fd5/
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>>153227996
I just watched some of his lectures online. These ones are neat
-Reality and the Sacred
-Tragedy vs. Evil

Also, he's doing an explanation of Jungian archetypes by using "Lion King" as an example, going scene by scene. It sounds childish, but he ends up making a lot of neat points.
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>>153231511
>we're separated by an AT field
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>>153231446
Are you implying they traced? I don't understand

>Asuka into a glorified fuck-puppet.

amusing that

>>153231511
Its too short, desu. Besides nobody wants to translate the authors stories, so it feels incomplete.
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>>153231611
The funny thing about that is they later show Asuka's room is remotely monitored with CCTV.

They all watched him beat it and nobody said anything.
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>>153231638
maybe he was making a point
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>>153231657
Nah, he was just an emotional wreck who saw the boobs of his tsundere. The camera might've not have been obvious.
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Why didn't Shinji man the fuck up and stop cooking for Asuka and force her to eat Misato's instant meals?
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>>153231611

>Are you implying they traced? I don't understand
I made that when some different anon said that the art in Re-take rivaled Sadamoto's.


>Are you implying they traced? I don't understand
I made that when some different anon said that the art in Re-take rivaled Sadamoto's.

The artwork is hailed as great, some say better than the originals.

>>153231601
pic related
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>>153231862
And because it looks close to the quality Sadomoto makes it crap? I don't understand that rationale.
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>>153232016
Well now I know what I'm beating it to tonight.
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cruel_angels_grunt.webm
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>>153232147
lmao dude
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>>153229237
>She goes and lays down with Shinji
>She may or may not have been asleep and was going to let Shinji kiss her
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>>153232101
I wish I knew what it said t b h s m h
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>>153213409
Oh come, It would make more sense with pretty much any other character, even Koji, Kaworu is totally gay
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>>153232016
>because it looks close to the quality Sadomoto makes it crap?
No, its because it IS Sadamoto's artwork that's copied and replaced. Other than pages with Rebuild's characters; ALL other artwork is just shameless cop paste from the NGE-manga including the Eva units. Instead of drawing unit one, they just got unit zero and added a horn(Pic related). its a reason why i hate it, other than the shit-tier shipping between Asuka and Shinji, The complete disregard for EOE's ending, and ignoring what makes the characters who they ARE, all for shipping.
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>>153230821
her inferiority complex did bleed into her childhood trauma - that child-identity of herself - but it don't think it has anything to do with why she's up.

Sure, it may be what she tells herself sometimes, but that's not what she's thinking when she's alone with Shinji - at least I don't think so.
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>>153208517
>ywn find a woman in this world as hot as Asuka.

Why even live?

It's like Anno knew everything I liked in a woman and then made this show just to make me miserable.

Fucking Jap cunt.
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>>153232656
>No, its because it IS Sadamoto's artwork that's copied and replaced

I asked if you think they were traced, and you didn't say anything. Make up your mind.

>all for shipping.

I'm pretty sure the author is only taking into consideration that Asuka just wants love and affection, I agree it could have been done better without the fluff shipping. Asuka hoping on Shinji's dick the minute he says he's attracted to her seems unrealistic on her part.

Point to me of a doujin that does have as good of art and story as Re-Take, there isn't any. Its regarded as the best fan made doujin for Neon Genesis.
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>>153232833
>tfw you dated one when you were teenagers but you were a Shinji and she left you
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>>153232874
I don't believe you, post pictures, lying cunt.
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>>153231657
>when a girl acts out of line, he chokes her and shames her by masturbating over her

kek
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>>153232888
It was a long ass time ago and they're long gone.

Believe me or don't, it's not like I'm proud of it.
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>>153232747
I think when she's with Shinji is she sees the person who she hates, the person inside herself. Shinji is kind of like a metaphorical avatar of her heart. like an Angel's Cruel Thesis

I don't mean that in a shipping sense, I mean that in a sense that Shinji is a self loathing, weakling of a child who wants love. Asuka tells herself she can be all grown up and not depend on others. To be strong and self sufficient.

Asuka has been trying to bury it, but when she's around him its leaking out.
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>>153232962
Yeah... I knew it, lying sack of shit.
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>>153232838
>I asked if you think they were traced, and you didn't say anything. Make up your mind.
all I said was>>153231862
>I made that when some different anon said that the art in Re-take rivaled Sadamoto's.
then elaborated on it>>153232656

>Make up your mind.
My point had no deviated at all, stop trying to cover yourself.

>Point to me of a doujin that does have as good of art and story as Re-Take, there isn't any. Its regarded as the best fan made doujin for Neon Genesis.
Uh all I can say to you is lurk more... See >>153231511 its great.
https://e-hentai.org/g/68275/7227d91fd5/

and

https://e-hentai.org/g/72463/385d416b19/
https://e-hentai.org/g/128618/e04003bf86/
https://e-hentai.org/g/23081/64505f9ce7/

https://e-hentai.org/g/359210/abd4f7fbcc/
(700 pages)

funny
https://e-hentai.org/g/295693/1d477f88bf/
https://e-hentai.org/g/775/45277a3588/
https://e-hentai.org/g/755/251bd69a6e/
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>>153233265
>rebuilds
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>>153232838
Personally I say that for a nge fan, Retake is baby's first doujin.
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>>153233372
>that pic
STOP
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>>153233342
so your brushing off the other doujin's i mentioned?
also look at pic,
Can anyone here post weird Eva-doujins?
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>>153233431
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>>153233431
holy crap people are actually reposting it?
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>>153233372
>>153233265
I say that because MOST of them are not translated to English.

I like Monkey Taste's and Peppy Angel's, but it feels incomplete.

https://e-hentai.org/g/23081/64505f9ce7/

>>153233471
not that guy you quoted.
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>>153233516
are you that same moon-runes Anon I keep bumping into?
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>>153233476
>Cums on her grave
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>>153233584
you got me
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Can someone please explain why the song is autoplaying? I didnt think today had any significance for evangelion
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>>153233476
>>153233372
Any more to this?
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>>153233652
its something called an "internet troll" who's goal is to piss people off
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>>153233652
What song?
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>>153233665
its only 3 pages long
here's the artists pivix account for more
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=14651246
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>>153233742
In case you're serious, its autoplaying cruel_angels_grunt.webm for me whenever I go to /a/
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>>153233816
I never even see the front page anymore, since I use the catalog these days.

Heh. Mods can still be gods apparently.
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>>153233884
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>>153233884
t-thats pretty hot. more?
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>>153233816
>>153233884

not at all the image i wanted to post.
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>>153209646
>waifu war
I like Asuka more as a character but I can't imagine why anyone would waifu either of them. Because they're cute? It's one thing for Asuka or Rei to have a special place in your heart and another to want to marry one.
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>>153233930
Yeah. I used to use catalog but 4chanx basically has it in catalog mode by default. Kinda funny though but hella confusing if its 4chan or the plugin
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>>153231511
>2003

Holy shit. This about how old many anons are
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>>153234240
I never cared for 4chanx.

I just use the default plugin. Fuck, it blew my mind when I figured out you could get around frames way back when.
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>>153234317

I just loved 4chanx when it came out and stuck with it. Plus the whole waifu/mascot thing was kinda cool
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>>153234424
>Plus the whole waifu/mascot thing was kinda cool
???????????????????
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>>153234275
sad thing is that the older doujin;s are great better then newer ones, downside is that most are untranslated and probably never will be. fan translators only care for newer ones.
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>>153234901
>>153234275
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>>153234901
>>153234949
are these translated to english?
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>>153235116
sadly no.

I thought about translating them via translate.
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>>153234901
>>153234949
this is 4chan in a nutshell.
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>>153222090
>I was talking about the introduction of a character which is followed by industrial symbolism, not the constant environment characters are in. Despite, did you think about Geofront? Do you remember how it was built? A pyramid, a lake, a forest, even special reflective devices for natural sunlight on top. Definitely an attempt to be closer to nature.

I remember reading (TvTropes?) how you could seeing NGE as an allegory for Japan from the 1867 fall of shogunate to the 1945 surrender. After seeing the Qing Empire getting its ass handed to it by the British Empire, the Japanese elite results they had to shape or they would get gunboat'd next. So they would eventually dump almost of all traditions and adopt Western learning (minus the un-Japanese stuff like Christianity) to Make Japan Great Again.

They were able have some successes (fucked up Russia, a semi-European country, gained Taiwan and Korea as colonies, etc) until they bit more than they could chew, invaded China and got BTFO'd by the USA.
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>>153235206
That would be hard considering its an image and you need to trace it, and you also need to know what order the runes go in.

I tried it once and none of it made sense. I really wish someone would translate these Peppy Angel's doujins. There is only a few translated on ehentai, so it feels incomplete.
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>>153222076
>not being autistic enough to label videos that mean the world to you
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>>153219706
some one screencap this pls
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>>153218181
Dr. Akagi

Im Shinji
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>>153218451
>>153218181
>>153219706
You (don't) get to bring friends
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>>153225662
Naoko meets Rei 1 for the first time in ep 21 you doof
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>>153212947
What about the glasses girl? She is the reason I still haven't seen the "new" Movies.
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>>153233516
Sigh--Peppy Angel is the one series that I'd love to see scanned all the way through.
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>>153237743
She's mostly background material, she doesn't have a role in the story at all and it's pretty fucking weird.

During the entirety of 3.3 she did nothing but sit back and spew shitty one liners, it's so weird.
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I like how this guy >>153214372 gives a clear perspective on everything, even Kaworu and Kaji, but people still cry about ships when he didn't even mention anything like that
Truly, those who deny Eva's emotional foundation are actual shoppers afraid of everything
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>>153233476
I can never unsee the cum on her grave
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>>153208517
CHANSUUUUUU~

>>153212666
>USS Langley was sunk during the battle of Java sea by 9 diving bombers. Coincidence? I think not.
SASUGA SATAN

THERES ALSO THE 9 ORDERS OF ANGELS

CAN ANYONE TRULY COMPREHEND THE FULL EXTENT OF ANNOS MASTERY
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Reading through this whole Jewish wall of text, I'm convinced a lot of people here have been in that sort of relationship, and are just pretending to be retarded.
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>>153239922
>YFW TV 25-26 IS FOR TRYHARD PLEBS

TRUE END IS EOE, AND WOULD HAVE REPLACED TV END IF THEY HAD THE BUDGET AT THE TIME
https://vimeo.com/149851589
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>>153213409
this is the most haram thing I've ever seen
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>>153240712
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>>153208517
-Chance
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reminder that Episode 26' is called Sincerely Yours and 'My Purest Heart For You' is an engrish mistranslation
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>>153242291
The Master himself oversaw the translation, he wanted the meaning to come across and not the words.
He did similar with the two songs that had English lyrics.
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>>153213728
>Misato and the Stooges (sounds like blues band name)
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Reminder that Shinji is canonicaly straight
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>>153243151
>this shit again
Now the gaytards will come and start a shit discussion.
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>>153243151
See>>153224314
Purple is the color of bisexuality, but Shinji wears blue. He's hetero with bisexual tendencies
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>>153243470
Thank you for making fun of kaworufags bulshitting
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>>153243470
I know this is bait, but the use of purple being an intermediate and a combination of Rei and Asuka is a pretty neat idea

Between knowing his place and fighting for what's he believes in

Fighting tactically or going balls to the wall

Willingness to didn't or refusal to surrender

He's a bit of everything, pretty beautiful
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>>153235387
Yeah, I think many old school Japanese people and historians see this as a negative influence
The whole nation actually has a complex after war, so they wrap themselves in strangely liberal pop culture to avoid the reality. I think Japan needs a small defensive war to awaken its former glory.
>>153239489
I was referencing Asuka's defeat at the hands of the Eva series. Like, there were 9 too. And nobody saw USS Langley go down, her crew left her, same as we don't see Asuka's dead body.
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>>153236523
I-I don't have friends
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>>153244931
We'll we saw her arm split open and even heavily bleed for a frame implying she was taking all the Eva damage too do to the Synch ratio
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>>153244931
>I was referencing Asuka's defeat at the hands of the Eva series. Like, there were 9 too
OBVS, AS ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE WORD 'ALSO' IN REGARD TO THE 9 ORDERS OF ANGELS IN CATHOLICISM

AS EXPECTED OF THE MASTER, MULTIPLE AND SIMULTANEOUS DIMENSIONS OF MASTERY

AND NOW TIME FOR BESTBUTT
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>>153245155
>Misato tits
>Rei skin
>Asuka ass

Would be best girl
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>>153245191
>implying they all aren't perfect as they are
Come on, anon, don't be like Shinji, love them for what they are
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>>153245244
None of them are perfect. That's the point of the show. fantasy ain't bad though
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>>153245244
>love them the way they are
lel this bullshit cliche.
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>>153245093
We also see a similar thing happen to Shinji when he goes up against Shamshel, as he gets burns on his palms after grabbing Shamshels laser tentacles with the Eva. And that wasn't even at full sync.
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>>153245734
Yeah but he was doing it for quite awhile if that 2nd angel
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>>153245734
His hands were fine there, they had to be so he could make punchfriends right away. They're wrapped after Sahaquiel skewers the Eva's palms. But that's Rebuild exclusive, most he gets in real Eva is marked by crucifixion with Longinus clones.
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>>153219450
Almost like Seele and NERV.
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>>153218771
For unit 04
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>>153230821
>child
you have simplified her character to such an extreme as to make her entirely flat; it isn't worth speaking further to you

>sleeping around
she nonchalantly dismisses the topic, so I doubt whatever she did engaged her passion very much at all. Likely she could have had a meaningful relationship, which would be strongly remembered in some context, but since she doesn't have to avoid the subject or address it I find it more likely she simply didn't let anyone in.
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>>153247419
>>153218771
For Karowu
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>>153247593
So she didn't let the right one in, is that what you're saying?

>as to make her entirely flat
implying
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>>153234192
muh benis
Sauce?
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The best threads are the ones without the Reifags sperging about their biased hatred for Asuka
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>>153248746
Asuka is shit, but that's only worth discussing some times. It's not biased to point out that Asuka is supposed to be an unlikable and shitty person. It's just a fact. Evangelion is like that, and Anno can't understand why people like the characters, and he said that himself. "They're sick!" he said.
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>>153247847
She likely got accost by any hot-blooded male with the gatsu enough to risk the jailbait-risk, so any of the high value athletes, etc. So, no, she didn't let anyone in whether they'd be right etc.

>>153248746
I find it crazy how long people will gripe about being bullied as a child; so many Reifags are just projecting their trauma onto this character that practically does nothing to their SI (Shinji) except yell at him a bit.

It's pretty embarrassing
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>>153248904
He can't understand why people like it in traditional otaku sense. It's pretty obvious that those who sympathize with characters and can relate to them on emotional level will like them. Anno himself said that he emotionally relates (that's fucking obvious, this anime is about him) on Asuka, Misato and Shinji, Rei being his subconscious, Kaworu being his "shadow" and Asuka being his favorite since she's a qt3.14
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>>153248904
>Asuka is Rei
What?
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>>153249105
Kaworu only showed up for one episode and he means more to Anno than a majority of the cast. Da fuck.
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>>153249105
>Asuka being his favorite since she's a qt3.14
That's the traditional otaku sense.
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>>153248952
>>153248746
You do realize the problem with Evangelion threads aren't Rei fans, but Asuka fans, right? Case in point: >>153249229

Asuka fans have the most consistent, tedious and lowbrow shitposters of any Evangelion type of fan.
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>>153249262
>Anno: Everyone understands that it's a fiction, but precisely because it's a fiction you have a pure feeling, you fall for the character to an even greater extent. You assume that an anime character will not betray you. Iku-chan said [to me], "in the last episode, please have Rei Ayanami get married and become pregnant. Just please betray the Ayanami fans. The Rei Ayanami they are thinking of is not real. The real Rei Ayanami gets married, and her belly..."

>Oguro: (laughs) Ah, if Ayanami really existed.

>Anno: He told me something like, "please, make them realize that, If she were real, she would get married, become pregnant, have a child, and grow older." I was thinking, "we don't have to go that far..." (laughs).

>Oguro: (laughs) Iku-chan is a wicked man.
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>>153220362
I'd be freaking out if life on Earth was literally ending.
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>>153249311
That's a very otaku line of thought. Anno is an otaku, and his favorite is Asuka. He said he likes Asuka because "she's cute".
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>>153248746
Don't you mean, the best threads are the threads where Asukafags don't sperg out about their favorite character?
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>listening to the Mega64 podcast for EoE

I actually appreciate and understand it a lot more now.
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>>153249374
Rei confirmed for not cute.
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>>153249307
>tfw you have no self-awareness
look you're name calling again instead of making any content post; at least my shitpost was clearly indicated by it's context (metashitpost) and the no punc, no capitalization
But thank you for 1. crying 2. shitposting 3. insulting people based on waifu because they are all valuable and required in an eva thread so it may live on to the next posting bloom
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>>153249307
That is true actually, every thread they appear in they just spam doujins and fanfiction.
I get second-hand embarrassment from reading some of their posts.
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>>153249502
The worst part is that they don't really seem to accept or understand just how bad their inane posting is. Not really criticizing the sharing of doujins though.
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>>153249502
Yeah, like this hot mess here: >>153249468

>>153249437
>mega64
Idiots the lot of em.
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>>153249548
Sharing fanfiction should at least warrant a ban.
That's fucking Tumblr-tier.
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>>153249683
Can agree on that one. I think Asuka fans are insecure otaku-in-denial. They deign themselves to pure otaku nerd activities like fanfics, doujins and idolizing fictional characters, yet still pretend they aren't otaku themselves. Sort of weird.
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>>153248952
>hot-blooded male with the gatsu enough to risk the jailbait-risk
>so any of the high value athletes

I thought the guy who was her ideal mate was very level headed, meticulous, by-the-book sort of person. Someone who risks his life to uncover felony and nepotism, rather than commiting a federal one. Aren't you projecting just a little bit?
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>>153249768
>Asuka fan projecting
Noooo waaaaaaaay
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>>153249768
>who would pursue = who is the right fit
you are either stupid, or daft
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>Asukafags have a great thread with analysis of both Rei and Asuka and clear respect to each character
>Share doujins, fics etc.
>Actually lurk for Anno's directional tricks etc.
>Reifags enter the thread and shitpost about Asukafags being the baddies
Gee, I wonder who has the worst fanbase
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>>153249845
I'm text on the internet. I can be anything you accuse me to be.
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>>153249849
>defending sharing doujins and fics
>defending shipping cancer
So this is neo-/a/.
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>>153249959
so you have no direct control over your shitposting?
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>>153249849
Yeah, Asuka fans, because you think this thread is "owned" by you despite it containing every type of Evangelion fans. Then look at >>153248746

which is clearly not a Rei fan but an Asuka fan (if anything), which does the first claiming. Worst part is that I'm not even a Reifag and I don't know if the other guy is, but yet you still continue blaming Reifags. I'm sorry but you guys just are the worst fanbase, and you're the so-called team red.

Shipping makes you look bad, not good.
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>>153242409
yes, and in the case of Episode 26' that meaning comes across from the fact that "Sincerely Yours" was the Japanese title for the release of the famous 60s movie adaptation of sci-fi novella "Flowers For Algernon" which deals with rejection as a major theme
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>>153248746
You just ruined one of the best threads on this site currently. There was good discussion about Eva without shit flinging where people discussed Asuka intensional short comings as a character and Rei's relationships

Fuck you
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>>153249974
>sharing doujins and fics
>shipping cancer
lolwut
what is otaku culture you literal idiot
fucking normalfags, I swear to God
even if you don't like it, being the normalfag you are, just leave this thread and go create one yourself, that's pretty easy. You won't waste both your time and the time of people who want to have particular discussion. Simple as that.
>>153250082
I understand what you mean, but the best way to deal with retards is to just ignore them
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>>153250082
look at how many direct citations there on that one post xD, of which 2-3 are your references
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>>153208517

OP probably intended it to be an Engrish thread instead of an Eva thread.
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>>153250181
>lolwut

>>153250221
>xD

Case closed.
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>>153250181
>>153250221
Just apologize on behalf of how Asuka fans behave and be done with it.
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>>153250076
No. That would imply free will and free association. Both are memes.
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>>153250301
For what should I apologize? You're not in a safe space here
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>>153209320
>>153209387
>>153213728
It was this anon's great post >>153250238
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>>153248746
Fuck you for ruining this thread.
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>>153250319
great
>>153250301
>authoritarian cryhards need validation for their opinions on the internet, and only derive satisfaction from consensus speak
first you start a flamewar, then you admit no guilt and require an aboutface from your 'opponents', afterwhich you continue referencing the same post to justify your ongoing shitposting, and here I am metaposting about it

xD
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>>153250407
>>153250163
don't even reply to this retard anymore.
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>>153250387
Says the one who spams Kei-tai and most likely got banned for it several times.

What a joke.
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>best gril
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>>153250480
http://www.evaotaku.com/html/alteva.html
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>>153250448
>>153250387
>Asuka fan exposed as keit-ai posting, waifu-war spurring shitposter

Gee, who would have thought.
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>>153250365
>It was this anon's great post
thanks for appreciation, family member
>>153250601
More news on 11
Let's talk about great stuff again, bo/y/s
Now what were we talking about
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>>153250569
Gotta love how Rei is pretty in-character here.
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>>153250448
>3 total image uses in 3 months
>several times

Not even that anon but seriously?

I just can't understand how people can just ruin what other people are enjoying because they're bored/they dislike the topic. Just why can't you let people discuss?
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>>153250676
>Let's talk about great stuff again, bo/y/s
Now what were we talking about

After EoE, what would things be like? Would there still be Angels that show up? Can people still inhabit and survive on earth? Would the ocean of tang go away?
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>>153250690
i guess - it reads like fanfiction to me, which is why i included it there. Of course they're adults in an AU, so what can you do. Probably Anno cringed hard enough to cut it down to size.
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I wish Asukafags would die, then maybe Eva threads would be good again
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>>153250676
Glad you're still around

>>153250750
Would you think Ritsuko's mother brain acts like an Eva for her
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>>153250777
let's get back on topic and discuss the symbolism

what did the master mean by this?

>>153249768
>implying she knew anything of Kaiji's work

Right, who is projecting here?
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>>153250782
Asuka fans need a proper reality check by someone they adore - Anno. But as fate would have it, Anno is an Asuka fan too, and just as much of a crazed otaku in his old bitter days, so it won't happen.
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>>153250885
And what kind of proper reality check are you thinking?
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>>153250885
>reality check
>posts on a
>believe in violent removal of people he doesn't like
now we are safe to invoke 'nu-a'
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>>153250782
the irony in this post...
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>>153251068
Rei will win the Shijibowl in 3.0+1.0 and possibly mindfuck Asukafags as in EoE
just look at until you come to me its clear that the is going to be more Shinji and Rei interactions
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>>153250750
I honestly don't know why people ask this question so much. I like to discuss the material we have, not what Anno would write in perspective. But if we actually think about what we have then it's obvious that the Angels will never come back again, that's what Kaworu decided once, save maybe for Seeds of Life, since Rei (actually we should call her Lilith) transcended time and space (Rei we see in the beginning of the series is the same Rei we see in the End, quantum Rei, references to quantum mechanics can be found in her room in terminal dogma) and so she's everywhere at the same time, besides also dying in EoE.
I think it would be retarded to say people won't be able to survive on Earth. If we think about it logically, there should be resources and bunkers with food which can be discovered (Shinji somehow survived for a week, so maybe he already managed a shelter somewhere). I personally saw Instrumentality as a positive thing in a sense that people get their final life "exam", they either get back to their basic state of an Angel, or continue living as separate beings if they want. So all those who hate life can leave alone all those who love it. Something like that. Anno indicates the positive intention through one single phrase: "The fate of destruction is also the joy of rebirth". People won't "come back", people will be reborn as those who have will to live and love.
>>153250861
>Would you think Ritsuko's mother brain acts like an Eva for her
I don't know what you meant by this, but MAGI is not like Eva, it's just three synthetic brains with Naoko's personality. But Ritsuko finds strength and support in it, until it betrays her. >>153250782
That's mean
>>153250870
The Master meant that you should touch your Nissan
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>>153216216
>find yourself a gf
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>>153251319
Not anything you can think about? Do you have any hobbies or stuff you're good at?
Like the Chef here was an autist but he was good at drawing
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>it's an `asuka tries to boss everyone around` episode
Best part
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>>153251192
You know how I know you're not a Rei fan?
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>>153251498
No one asked for your opinion or input. You don't matter.
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>>153251498
i just like Rei more then Asuka
i still like Asuka but i dont like Asukafags
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>>153251192
By the way, about Until You Come to Me
I didn't understand shit about it, anybody tried to analyze it or made any suggestions? I mean it was beautiful and I saw stuff I kind of understood. Like we see quantum Rei again and in her eyes we see the reflection of Rei Q who then vanishes. Could it be that she comes back to her or something? Where's Rei in 3.33?
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>>153251391
Are you Wise anon ? You seem to have a big folder of Annos
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>>153251532
>>153251570
Calm down Asukafags.

>>153251641
No one cares about it. 3.33 was hot garbage made for garbage people by garbage people.
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>>153208661
really? I instantly hated her, kept hating her through all of eva, and still hate her. Fucking bitch
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>>153251692
Yes, it's me
Anno is actually my husbando
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>>153250915
I'd start with completely blocking off both jugulars. Worked in the movie.
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>>153251977
Ikuhara pls
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>>153251641
It doesn't really deserve analysis IMO. I'm sure you can speculate a lot from it, but from what I can tell from others, and personally, the reason it doesn't get done is because there's just no heart in it. Even if we make up a theory, so what? It's just a waste of time. It's founded on a bad story (Rebuild) and it's just more of the same 3.33 presented.

Some EVA mouthpieces like minna no eva fan (less of a fansite, more like an advertising channel for Khara) did some "teaser" speculation it. I say "teaser" because just like any advertisement, it doesn't make any real conclusions of it's own but tries to motivate people to speculate. Probably because no one actually cares, and they want people to care. Like it was a,

>hey, look at this guys! what does it mean! what do you think? please respond

sort of thing.

>Like we see quantum Rei again and in her eyes we see the reflection of Rei Q who then vanishes. Could it be that she comes back to her or something? Where's Rei in 3.33?

Sort of pointless to ask, isn't it? 3.33 ruined Rei's character and proved that the directors are only out to ruin Rei with every development they make. Whatever gets added on top of that doesn't really matter. If Rei comes back or doesn't come back, what would come back exactly? A half-Rei? A half-Rei that's made out to be not even half the person the original Rei was?

People simply don't care, and only people who got hyped after 3.33 (Kaworu fans) bother to talk about it. People want things that matter, and Anno has set heaven and hell into earth to make sure Rei does not matter.
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>>153251977
>Wisanon is back to save this thread one more time
I'm not sure we're worthy, but I have one for you. Pic related is from the OP, but it looks exactly the same than when Shinji kills Kaworu EXCEPT it's not the good hand. Is there another moment I don't remember where Shinji kills something with his left hand ?
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>>153252185
Yes, when he destroys Unit 04, I think.
Besides, I don't remember any of the images from OP being in the actual series. I remember checking Sadamoto's groundworks and it seems they did the OP exclusively with original pics, except for the one you posted and maybe some others.
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>>153243151
Asuka turns so she is facing Shinji right after he moves. Could it be...?
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>>153249311
this thread is GOTY.

Also I think pic related would be good if it happened in the new eva movie. To persuade people in japan to have more babies etc..
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>>153252301
I just checked and Unit 01 destroys Toji's tube with her right hand too, meaning the OP's pic could be original too.
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>>153252399
Yeah, it'd be great to have Asuka raped by the horny men at WILLE and have their rape baby, it would be an excellent social commentary on how the Japanese treated the koreans (foreigners, like Asuka) during wartime.
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>>153252449
meant for >>153252354
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>>153252354
Yeah, Asuka should get married and pregnant to some unnamed man.
It would BTFO purityfag otaku who are shut ins and convince people to procreate.

Two birds with one stone.
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>>153252354
The only thing that would persuade nips to fuck would be if someone turned off the internet. And even they, they'd just fall back to dvds and tapes.
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Why was everyone such a cunt to Shinji in the rebuild?
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>>153251977
Alright Anon. I hope your keyboard is ready, because I'm gonna ask the one question.
Why the choking ?
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>>153252301
There's a one second shot of Kaworu which is also used in episode 24 when Rei is thinking about him.

And there's Shinji's smile which is used at the end of episode 26.
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>>153252525
They don't get the character. Meta comment on the fans.
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>>153252525
>Ritsuko and Misato guilt trip him for months to ride the EVA despite know what it really was
>Ritsuko and Misato guilt trip him to fight agaist Zeruel and save Rei
>Surprised when "me play god" fucks up the world
>Blame Shinji about fucking up the world

Fucking roasties I swear.
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>>153252557
I didn't even realize he was in the opening, good catch.

One day I'll pause through each frame, they put a lot of spoilers in the opening
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>>153252399
I checked too
>tfw the op so good can never skip it
It's original, yeah
>>153252557
I also remember that and I didn't understand why Kaworu was there. Random? Besides, other flashing image sequences have some meaning behind them, while this one dumbfounded me
>>153252542
FUCK
Let's actually discuss it. Why do you think?
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>>153229421
I always wondered if the reference to the Walls of Jericho was subtle suggestion she wanted Shinji to 'break' them.
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>>153252525
Because people have a fetish for keeping valuable infomation from each other in Evangelion.

Everything could be sorted pretty swiftly if the characters were just willing to sit down and talk like fucking adults.
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>>153252693
see >>153214372
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>>153252525
Same reason Rei was written out and subverted deeply. It's simply Anno taking otaku frustrations out on the two characters he's not too fond of. Shinji is punished for having "chosen" the character Anno hates: Rei in the previous movie.
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>>153252511
>>153252485

incorrect madfaggs.
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>>153252832
No shipping ITT pls
They're cute, but no shipping
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>>153252185
The bloody hand and shoe are evocative of 16 and 18, but don't occur in any episode. The cut immediately after with the snarling robot rising and turning is directly from episode 2, but production was never that far ahead.
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>>153252832
>even Shinji looks good in a suit
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>>153252542
He wanted to be certain he could cause another person harm, because if he could then both would be able to find happiness. Something about A.T fields and other stupid shit.
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>>153252542
Because that's the last thought he had of her.
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>>153252691
Because sneaking in a picture of the final boss is cool
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>>153252874
Don't open.
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>>153253012
That's based Karl for you
>>153253018
>komori
I didn't need to
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>>153253018
Worst Zetsubou
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>>153253103
I want a harem anime with maximum autist Karl as the MC
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>>153252691
>Why do you think?
I would say like>>153252913. We see a kitchen scene with the two of them in EoE where he ends up choking her, but we're not sure whether or not this scene takes place during instrumentality and if this is actually Asuka talking to him, or just an image of his mind, and HOW he sees Asuka.

In both cases that means he's testing how she reacts to him at the end, but I still don't understand why he does it. Why being violent ? Shinji is not someone I see as violent, yet he is towards her. Why ?
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>>153253627
He hates her
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>>153253737
No he doesn't
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>>153253750
You wouldn't try to constantly kill someone you don't hate
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>>153253823
He doesn't constantly try to kill her
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>>153253876
Yes he does
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>>153253906
Nope
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>>153253948
Not an argument
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>>153254003
Not one either
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>>153253906
name any besides Intrumentality and One More Final
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>>153254147
>name any besides times he clearly does this
So you yourself admit it.
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>>153253627
The kitchen scene is not the reality, of course, it's happening in the Instrumentality.
Now, when we think about it, it's Asuka accusing Shinji of not caring for her and not understanding her (it's actually a moment of revelation for Asuka, she directly tells him what her problem with him was), not trying to understand and thus hurting her badly. Shinji is hungry for love, I don't like this phrasing but it is what it is. In it, he's no different from us, we all want to be cared for and loved. But what Shinji doesn't try to do is to understand the others truly and see what they want and what their problems are. In that sense, Asuka hates him for it. She hates him for not trying to reach out to her throughout the series (in that sense, it's actually Shinji who hurts Asuka all the time, not the other way around as many people insist) and tells him about it directly. How Shinji sees others is can also be reinforced by mother-child parallel. A child can't usually differentiate it's mother from itself. A mother is a source of love for a child. Shinji is similiar in a sense that he doesn't try to see others like actual others. While it's also Asuka's problem. They both are at fault whenever the other is hurt. Asuka acts aggressive and Shinji acts passive. I talked about it here >>153214372
He strangles her when she rejects him for being such an asshole and does it because he's nothing else left. He's been exposed, Asuka's spoken the truth. In that sense, the scene is similar to that disgusting masturbation scene, where Shinji's left with nothing and is cast down to his lowest - the primal instinct of sex. Here he's left with nothing and refused once again and he once again is cast tp primal instinct - death drive. Eros and Thanatos are reinforced throughout EoE numerous times. The whole sexual imagery thing is a metaphor. As for the beach, let's think. In the next post.
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>>153253215
He already thinks he is. His arc is he enters already convinced he's central to a story about saving everybody from being alive, then realizing he's been duped right before he dies still believing he's essential and plot can't occur without him. It keeps happening.
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>>153254571
He never realizes how much Shinji cares about him, so he's just as dense as your typical Anime MC
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>>153254311
Now about the beach scene. >>153252913
This is some strange theory. In a sense that you see Shinji as a good pupil of good ol' Schopenhauer who instantly analyses the situation from an existential point of view. Shinji's been on that beach for a week or two. It was somewhere in the script I believe, but it's reinforced (I sure love this word) by "graves" he made and by rust on Misato's pendant. Imagine yourself in that situation. Imagining and self-inserting is actually one of the best ways to understand Eva. You're told that you're coming back to reality. You come back, with a promise that everybody can do it too and then you spend two or so weeks wandering throughout this wasteland covered in tang and you lose all the hope anyone would come back (one of two planned endings insisted that no one could come back but Shinji still decides to live on himself, that's how strong he actually becomes). You make graves for them, the people you understood you loved and cared for. And then out of nowhere, the poor girl you've hurt so much is there, beside you. not only her, but the freaky floating Rei is gazing at you, like some oni. You start to ask yourself questions. What the hell? What is this? Am I actually in reality? Shinji's eyes at the moment depict shock. So he decides to "check" what the hell is this. But he's angry of course. He wanted them to come back, he was reassured by his own mother they will and then what? So he chokes her, because he's nothing else left ONCE AGAIN. Anger, frustration, uncertainty and all of that. I guess that's what it is, but of course I'm not sure.
>>153254665
what?
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>>153254311
It's important to remember that Shinji and Gendo are strongly implied to strongly alike, to the point where Gendo is a warning sign of sorts of what Shinji will become if he lets his demons get the better of him.
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>>153254311
That pic is too sad even for an Eva thread. Good analysis, though.
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>>153254801
this
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>>153254771
>>153254311
You're alright anon
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>>153227443
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>>153254801
Shinji has a lot alike with a lot of characters, but mainly Gendo and Misato seem like two possible futures for Shinj
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>>153252018
this
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>>153255678
Anno said Shinji and Misato are the most similar to each other and supposed to be the main parallel of the show
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>>153255679
>tfw everyone deduced that wisanon is actually Ikuhara-san
Timestamp time
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>>153248746
I'm an Asukafag, and you're a faggot. Except for trolls, Rei- and Asuka-fags can generally keep kalm and karry on; the only times the insults come out are when defending the waifu's (which is stupid itself; "no you're waifu is worse" doesn't prove that yours is gud).
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>>153255854
If I had to call out just one person for being a pororoca alien or a Special Circumstances agent, it would be Ikuhara.
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>>153249307
I've seen threads where Rei-fags start the shitflinging, too. It's not about whose fans are the "bad ones"; there's trolls on both sides of the aisle.
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>>153255854
Be honest /a/, would you go gay for him?
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>>153254311
>>153254771
Damn
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>>153252525
'cause they've been simmering in their own frustrations for ~14 years. Yes, they urged Shinji on a la >>153252632, but "minor details" like that fade in time (especially when doing so let you absolve yourself of blame and guilt for 3rd Impact), leaving just what Shinji did fresh in their minds.
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>>153255949
I already am
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>>153248746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByLRr2OHpT8

Asukafags everyone
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>>153254311
Why doesn't Asuka fight back ? What does Instrumentality even do anyway ? Shouldn't they be unable to talk like this, since they've merged in the tang ?
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>>153254771
He's also seeing if she's real; she just lays there (doll-like? natch), so he's probably wondering if this is just another fucked up dream to torture him.
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>>153256150
legs like whoa
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>>153255678
Misato identifies strongly with him and his background. Kaji is the level 16 evolution, you have to get him to zero happiness and trade him away to get a Gendo.
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>>153256175
>Why doesn't Asuka fight back?
I don't know, what's the point of fighting, it's all in their merged minds in pre-Instrumentality. The scene is symbolic like everything in Eva
>What does Instrumentality even do anyway?
Destroys your AT field with anti-AT field, so your soul is taken back into the Chamber of Guf, Lilith's womb. There you merge with other souls and you all exist without any barriers, at least that's what they reached until Shinji said "fuck it". What would happen if he accepted it I don't know.
>Shouldn't they be unable to talk like this, since they've merged in the tang?
They have no AT fields so their minds are open to each other
>>153256213
That's what I said tho
>>153256253
Fuck yeah, Mars best girl
>>153256155
>Go home, nazi
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>>153254311
>Asuka accusing Shinji of not caring for her and not understanding her
And Shinji responds by saying Asuka never told him anything, never giving him a hint of what she wanted, which is also true. Shinji has absolutely no obligation to "understand" anyone, yet people always argue that he does. But it's impossible for everyone to understand everyone else with sincerity and an open mind - they'd simple be varying clones of one another, with no social individuality to speak of.
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>>153256175
>What does Instrumentality even do anyway ?
Instrumentality is death for the dead. Imagine someone made your psych profile without your knowledge and gave it to Anno, who then strapped you to a folding chair and forced you to watch a horror movie based on your primal fears.
Just thinking about it makes me go nuts. Imagine how it would feel if you were really involved in it.
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>>153256482
They're both retarded, and they're both caught up in their own bullshit that selfishly blinds them to each other's needs.
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>>153256420
Wisanon, do you know anything regarding how Anno feels about Toji?
And how does he stand next to the other children in Shinji's mind? I believe he's sort of an opposite to Rei, being the one who wishes to understand Shinji and get closer to him.
I really like the character but no one seems to want to talk about him ever.
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>>153256738
He made Asuka fuck Toji in the EoE sequence
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>>153256482
I mentioned it, "It's also Asuka's fault". That's also I guess is the reason she shows some love to him, she understood herself and him better
>>153256738
Let me take a shower and we'll talk, it's a great question. Don't reach bump limit yet
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>>153256175
Her formative experiences were her mother replacing her, father not wanting her, a step-mother openly discussing having no commitment to her at all. If the only other person there is to look at her wants her out, what's to fight?
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>>153257029
I really need to rewatch that.
>>153257090
Sure, I'll be waiting.
if this one reaches the limit I might make a thread about
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>this disgusting thread made it through the night
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>>153257822
I want to seduce Kaworu and make him fall in love with me, but he'd never be interested in some gross homo like me
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>>153257822
go back to your titan general
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>>153253737
If he hated her he wouldn't have flipped out when she died.

>>153252832
isn't this fan art? Real Asuka is single forever.
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>>153258250
Actually he didn't give a shit when she died. He heard her dying and Maya told him she died over the speakers. He barely made a reaction.

He only screamed seeing the mangled body because it was so disgusting.
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>>153257750
Now about Toji (and Kensuke). People greatly underestimate those two in the series and sometimes shit on episode 4, which IMO is one of the best episodes there is, no question. So what's their role in it? First Shinji meets Kensuke and they open up to each others a bit. Shinji actually talks with a person who accepts him and with whom he shares the loss of mother. It's important. Now when Shinji is caught by section 2 once again and is turned down by Misato, he completely loses his will to pilot because he thinks he's unneeded there too. Now when he's ready to depart, he meets Kensuke and Toji at the train station. The most important moment: they don't blame him for running away. They understand him and accept him. And Shinji sees that, at the moment he opens up to his newfound friends (and Shinji isn't the one who makes friends, they both make the first step themselves, just like Kaworu would later) and breaks down, seeing that people accept him even if he doesn't pilot, proclaiming himself a coward etc. This makes him stay and a later arrival of Misato, who also confirms to him that he's indeed needed and that they care. So he bonds with Kensuke and Toji. Their role is reduced lately of course, for the introduction of Kaworu, but their friendship is also one of the main reasons Shinji comes back. Human friendship is magic.
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>>153258334
Why did Shinji act so different around Kaworu than he did with Toji and Kensuke?
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>>153258283
He was shaking though, and stated "there is nothing I could do!"

It had nothing to do with being disgusting, he screamed so powerful that he was flying in the air, his screams blew away JSSDF, made Yui go berserk and brought the Lance towards him.
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>>153258414
His friend just died and all he does is shake a little and say it isn't his fault? He didn't even seem sad or look up and be worried.

When he finally looks up and sees Unit 01 move he's just shocked.

And yes, Yui goes beserk when Shinji's emotions are at an all time high. And they were when he saw such a horrifying sight.
He didn't scream when he heard Asuka's last dying screams and death, he screamed when he saw a grotesque sight.
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>>153258283
>>153258414
yeah
step one, disconnect from reality and don't engage with the present
step two, regret the powerful consequences of inaction

its a common cycle in depression
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>>153258334
Now about Toji, I know his namesake is from Ryu Murakami's novel Ai to Gensou no Fascism. I don't know much about it, nor do I really know much about Toji, except for the fact that he's based and kind and a true bro, but you >>153257750
can lurk more
>>153258395
Because Kaworu was a character of a completely different nature (bishounen, the spirit of Japan's romanticism I guess, goes beyond sexuality, also based on Ikuhara and his influence on Anno) who gave Shinji exactly what he wanted, as I described in a post here >>153214372 which I'm referencing for God knows how long.
Also he was a person Shinji wanted to be, so Shinji felt desire and love etc. etc. you know yourself. Also you could tie in Jungian bisexuality if you see sexual desire there etc.
tldr he was a kind sexy guy who understood him and Shinji loved him for that
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>>153257822
Why was it disgusting?
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>>153258647
Anno said Toji's name coming from that character had no real meaning, he had read the book and confessed himself he found it rather boring.

Coincidentally Kaworu's name also comes from a book, the infamous class The Tale of Genji. But perhaps it's not so random as Toji's and has meaning to it.
Kaworu in The Tale of Genji has a special scent (Kaworu means fragrance in Japanese), which lures both men and women to him. They can't help but fall in love with him just from his unique smell.
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>>153258765
Yeah, that's a good speculation though, he's a kind of a "guy so "awe" you, whoever you are, fall in love immediately". But I think he was a character written specifically for Shinji to fall for, as I remember Anno saying it in one of the interviews. He's definitely inspired by romantic novels, which he reads
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>>153258942
Yes, he was specifically tailored for Shinji. But considering his enormous female fanbase he's not just an ideal to him, but an ideal to most girls.

And The Tale of Genji is hailed as the romance novel of all romance novels, choosing that for his name is very fitting I feel.
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>>153258765
I'm trying to get into the heads of nerv personel here. You've got someone called Smell who's sneaking around by himself, saying peculiar things and trying to get into central dogma. I know their security is supposed to be bad, but it can't be that bad can it?
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>>153258395
Suicidal, lonely and horny. If some adrogynous teenager who could very real go for a trap appeared next to you and started lusting for you, wouldn't you go for it?

Personally I wouldn't because I don't believe in friendship and am a high maintenance paranoid, but I'm sure you would.
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>>153258334
Episode 4 is incredible.
Toji apologizing and making Shinji punch him back followed by Shinji breaking down about how he sees himself while the guards hold him is one of my favorite moments in the series.
It's the cornerstone for Shinji's whole development, for example, openening up to Rei the way he did in episode 6 is a direct consequence of it.
Toji's demise also has a lot in common with Kaworu's.
When Shinji's smashes his plug, he sees Toji crippled in 01's hand, and feels as if he'd done it by his own hand, even if he was poweless before the whole situation.
With Kaworu, Shinji is in full control of the situation and perfectly synched with 01, unlike in the previous situation, where the dummy plug did the whole thing and he probably couldn't feel anything, yet he has no other choice but to squash Kaworu.
If you simplify it, this is what causes him to mind break.
When he hurt to Toji, he quit piloting. But decides to come back to protect the ones he values, only to hurt someone important to him again.
>>153258647
Do I reek of newfag that bad?
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>And The Tale of Genji is hailed as the romance novel of all romance novels, choosing that for his name is very fitting I feel
Wow, I should pick it up then, sounds interesting
Whew, that was a fun thread, when's the bump limit?
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>>153258765
And his last name Nagisa means seashore

Kaworu Nagisa = Fragrance of the seashore
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>>153259113
>If some adrogynous teenager who could very real go for a trap appeared next to you and started lusting for you, wouldn't you go for it?
Seeing how so many faggots here are in futa, traps and boipuccy (myself included), I wouldn't be surprised. It'd be even worse if we all were frustrated hormone saturated14 years old
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>>153259154
>When Shinji's smashes his plug, he sees Toji crippled in 01's hand, and feels as if he'd done it by his own hand, even if he was poweless before the whole situation.
Because he felt the whole thing. He's synched with the EVA still, so he feels everything as though he did it himself.

In fact, the dummy plug might not even have mattered; Yui has rejected the dummy plug and has shown to be in full control of Unit-01 before, so it's entirely possible she just went mama bear mode and overrode Shinji's impulses.
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>>153259170
It's a long ass book, but go for it.
It's technically the first novel ever written in the entire world, and is the foundation of Japan's culture and society.
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>>153259154
You got it pretty well, senpai
>Do I reek of newfag that bad?
kind of, you ask pretty basic questions, but lurk more, you seem to understand it well
Main thing is to imagine yourself in a situations characters are in, that helps.
>>153259267
>It's technically the first novel ever written in the entire world, and is the foundation of Japan's culture and society
Holy shit, that's what I was missing, I feel like a complete newfag now
Thanks for enlightening, anon
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>>153259170
>And The Tale of Genji is hailed as the romance novel of all romance novels,
wtf is that? did Anno wrote that shit?
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>>153259511
see >>153259267
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>>153258485
I think he couldnt hear her at that moment? That's why when he went out of the hangar he was like "Asuka, must find Asuka"

Another theory is that Yui was jealous and waited for Asuka to die before moving.
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This has been one of my favorite threads on /a/ in quite awhile even bouncing back from shit posters, and actually giving me insight into Eva

Congratulations to you all
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>>153259635
Not him but he definitely could, he responded to her calling for her mom by repeating the word and looking at Unit 01. Also Maya directly told him she was dead and he didn't move and inch.

Yui probably hates Asuka for beating Shinji up.
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>>153259175
I can imagine the conversation at a nerv checkpoint.
>we have a check in for Smells Fishy, white hair, red eyes, country of origin Antarctica
>Is Antarctica even a country?
>It's not anything anymore, not since the Dr Ikari blew it up
>Who the fuck made this ID? Is this another prank from metagenetics?
>Who cares man? Do you really want to report this downstairs?
>Fuck no. I'm still on probation because of that deal with the missing clone.
>Ah well, it can't be helped I guess. Mister Smells Fishy, here is your id and your form, welcome to Tokyo-3.
>>
Let's hope someone makes a new thread that isn't invaded by waifufags.
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>>153259725
What is the race of someone born in Antarctica? Albino?
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>>153259785
probably just a line in black marker, a REDACTED stamp and Gendo's personal signature.
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Alright, that actually was a good thread and it was fun to participate in it, thank you all for listening and sharing, omedetou!
Now lets slowly autosage into archives
>>153259785
penguin
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I'll dump some Asukas
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>>153260034
DO IT!
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*drools*
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>OFFICIAL EVANGELION DICK SIZE RANKING:

Kaworu's Adam Godcock >>>>> Gendo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaji >>>>>>>> Touji >>>> Kensuke >>>> literally nonexistent >>> Shinji >>>> Fuyutsuki (it shriveled up and disappeared)
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>>153260223
interesting speculation there
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I got rid of the Asuka folder two weeks back. Now I only have reaction images and a few stills from the show.
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>>153260262
You fool
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>>153260262
>I got rid of the Asuka folder two weeks back
why?
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>>153260114
Its amazing how Asuka's tits change from scene to scene. Sometimes she's busty and other times she's flat.
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>>153259712
>Also Maya directly told him she was dead and he didn't move and inch.
He's in complete shock. He can't process what is going on and only realizes what happened when he sees unit 2's mangled corpse
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>>153260316
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>>153260316
guess it's based on Shinji's horny perception
canon size in EoE though
but don't you dare to fap
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>>153260330
Stop lying, you know that isn't true. He doesn't look like he's in shock at all.
He calmly starts thinking of his mom while Asuka is getting speared to death.
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>>153260379
>Shinji is an evil cunt who wants his friend to die
stop anon, don't be so evil to Shin-chan
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>>153258647
There's a more direct line from Toji to Kaworu than that. Toji and Kensuke are the first step away from the self-destruction Shinji displays early, beginning the comfy auspiciousness Shinji progresses through until it's commented on by Toji, right before he's mauled and everything Shinji's gained starts breaking, ending with Kaworu coming to appeal directly to that death urge again and restore him as the weak, cowardly scoundrel character we have entering the orange-water rapids.
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>>153260363
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>>153260436
That's right, my man
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>>153260379
>He doesn't look like he's in shock at all.
>complete wreck of himself that doesn't even move nor reacts to anything
>mutters to himself because he hears mom and reverts to child state
>not in shock
And he has reasons to be. He's still depressed about what he did to Kaworu and he saw Misato dying just moments ago. He's in denial of reality
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let's end this
goodbye
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>>153260376
It might just be me, but I can never fap to Asuka even though I'm an Asukafag. I can't, End has tainted me.
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>>153260518
>>153260435
He can properly cry to Misato but can't even make a facial reaction to Asuka.
Doesn't give a shit. And neither does Asuka's mom.
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>>153260599
same, senpai
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