Boku no Hero Academia

Thought spoilers come on Wednesday?

>>153182767
Rank 1-A's Quirks according to their utility in beisbaw.

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>>153182767
Have anyone read the oneshot from Horikoshis assistant that was published in Jump a couple of weeks ago?
what is it about? is it any good?
his artsyle is very similar to Hori's so I'm hoping it get scanlated soon

link to raw
http://lhscans.com/imawa-no-juukurou-oneshot/

Another of Horikoshi's assistants did a super-edgy horror manga that's probably finished by now.

I also just got the latest volume in the mail finally. They left in the bad translation of Stain's final rant. shameful.

i want to watch mineta fuck momo

>>153183026
>>153183241
here's another oneshot by one of his assistants that was published in WSJ 2 years ago

http://imgur.com/a/GrTcy

it's a reverse isekai, a fantasy character get teleported to the real world

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>>153182767
Spoilers are late Wednesday/early Thursday EST. Unless they're early this week.

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Reposting all the LN pics again for those who didn't see them.

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>>153184732

Let's see if this one's oriented correctly this time.

>>153184732
thanks anon

>>153183292

Glad to have you here my Grapesbrother

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>>153184732
>>153184764

Hell yeah.

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>>153184732
>>153184822

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>>153184732
>>153184863

>>153183467
What a pity, it looks pretty good.

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>>153181922
>>153183292
>>153184781

>"You hate Grapeposting? Well let's see how you like it when there aren't any!!"
>"You'll be BEGGING for us to come back!!!"
>Immediately begins Anti-Mirioposting as if we won't know its them
>Gets BTFO like every other time
>Back to Grapeposting the very next thread

Leave.

>>153185157

report, hide, move on.

>>153184732
I think Aoyama got sick, look how Tsuyu opens the window for him.

>>153183467
This one looks pretty cool.

>>153183026
Poor man's Shaman King.

>>153182767
It's fucking tuesday why would spoilers be anywhere close to coming out soon? Also don't link to post threads.

>>153183026

Well I can see the influence. Same jarring cartoon mouth and everything.

>>153185157
Mirio apologia leave

Friendly reminder that Ochako is so irrelevant as a heroine that if for some reason Deku had a "super-powered berserk dark side" the one to bring him back would be Bakugou.

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>>153185505

>Anti-Mirioposting didn't work
>Now it's time for Anti-Ochakoposting. Again.

It's like you're on a cycle or something.

>>153185505

>Deku gets a moment like this when he walks in on Bakugo giving Ochaco the ahoge face

>Bakugo calms him down by defeating Deku (on 102% OfA rage mode) without a single scratch and beats Deku to a bloody pulp

>Deku then smiles and says " thank you Kacchan, I needed this! don't worry Ochaco, I will gladly raise Bakugo's baby with you! "

>>153185619

>posting the truth is bait

This is why nobody likes you Mirio apologist and why you're all alone

>>153183839
>>153184764

damn, tooru's tits look huge in this pic.

might even give momo a run for her money

>>153185619
It's kinda weird how noticeable they've gotten. It's getting to the point where you can just notice phrases or scenarios they bring up so often that you just know it's the same person.

I mean look at the post below yours. I've seen that nigga post basically the same thing to some degree in basically every thread. I have no idea why they do it but they must get some enjoyment out of it.

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The chapter is probably more Pip boy jacking off.

Remember when BAKU WAS THE CHOSEN ONE WITH DEKU? NOW HE'S BEEN REPLACED.

>>153185795
The only thing that got noticeable is your insanity and you replying to yourself

>>153185843
Tintin will phase his underpowered arm inside Shinsou's head and explode it

>>153185843
Don't you have a picture of Shinny to be wanking to?

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>>153185843
Lelouch i thought you were better than this

>>153185918
I knew it, Lelouch is actually Grapesbro

let's get him!!

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Momo belongs to African American penis ONLY. White cucks cant compete with us

>>153185984
this is the same guy who says "Satou's quirk is super strong guys!! I wanna see more of Satou in next chapter!!!"

please for the love of god can we get a mod to clean this faggots out of the threads for a week or something as a warning shot to stop ruining them

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>>153185795

>I have no idea why they do it but they must get some enjoyment out of it.

I'm beginning to wonder if they legitimately think they're being some kind of 4chan funnyman. Like they're somehow so autistic that they haven't noticed whatever modicum of humor in their shitposting has been beaten so much it's not even a dead horse anymore - it's just a rotting smear on the ground.

Or maybe they think everyone's irritation is just some kind of trial by fire, and that they'll be welcomed into the f/a/mily with open arms after they "prove themselves".

Whatever it is, it's fucking sad.

>>153186046
Once he eats TWO chocolate bars he's literally stronger than All Might and you losers want to say he's not a God. White people are just all around the weaker race in every area, it's kind of sad really.

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>>153185902
>>153185879
I wish I could but Hori clearly isn't interested.

Look at how many new characters have come along when he could have done stuff with Shinsou.

Feels fucking bad.

>>153185918
What is this referring to?

>>153184732
poor Frenchie got his period

>>153186119
>>153185795
>>153185619
need I say it?

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>>153186165
>when he could have done stuff with Shinsou.
Why such a hard on for a terciary character i don't understand?

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>>153186199
What are you implying here? Only one of those posts is me

Mirioposter forgot to edit out the (You)s yet again

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>>153185984
>>153186046
>>153186154

Oh boy. Satouposting. How original. I wonder could be behind it.

>>153186270
>>153186312

>Editing in (you)s again

Are you trying to make this the Hip New Meme or something? Or are you trying to discredit the use of screenshots as proof of one's [lack of] samefagging since you can't do it yourself?

>>153186392
>>Editing in (you)s again
tell me how to make a webm of that screen and I will prove that >>153186270 is you

>>153186392
>discredit the use of screenshots as proof of one's [lack of] samefagging
posting (You)s screenshot as "proof you're not samefagging" is what samefags ALWAYS do

people who don't samefag don't feel the need to post that

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No shitposting now, only titties.

>>153185843
>replacing faggoty edgelord John Cena with a jolly fellow with actual exploitable flaws

It's almost like Hori wants a good manga

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>>153186428

You DO realize that (you)s only show up for the person being replied to, right?

Why would a "Mirio Apologist" want to prove he was samefagging? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

>>153186525
>Bakugou
>actually has exploitable flaws if you consider his Quirk alone, only reason he is unbeatable is because of plot armor

>Mirio
>literally invincible if you consider his Quirk alone, his plot armor only makes him able to kill the few characters whom he should be unable to kill

>>153186646
>>153186312

>>153186666
>6666
SuperSatan has spoken

Mirio confirmed more of a Gary Stu than Bakugo

>>153186489
Which 1-B girl has the biggest rack? Can any of them compare to our queen Momo?

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>>153186666
>his plot armor only makes him able to kill the few characters whom he should be unable to kill

>>153184732
Is there any good Denki stuff in this LN?

>>153186781
>chapter 124
>only reason he was able to kill Kirishima and Invistits was because the author made them not use their Quirks

read the manhwa

>>153186782

In terms of pics? No.

In terms of reading? I dunno. I can't read Japanese.

>>153183241
that edgy horror manga was the worst shit, gave up on it when i saw the pig mascot raping a girl to death with its enormous dick

>>153186926
Ok, thanks anon,

>>153186489
After Mineta is done with these sluts, who will get his sloppy seconds? I think Tetsutetsu will get Kendou (and then Monoma will walk in on them and kill himself), Denki will get Ibara as his side ho, and Yui will get gangbanged by the rest of the boys in their class and by their teacher too.

>>153187087

I agree with every single one of these suggestions, top tier and on point, my fellow Grapes connoisseur

>>153184764
>>153186489

Vine girl's hair looks painful.

>>153186973

he also impales a dude to death with his boner

>>153187171
For you

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>>153187087
>>153187147

Yeah, you're not fooling anyone, grapeshitter.

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>>153187275
I don't even need to uncheck the box to remove the other you, because it's just me talking to my fellow Grape fan

but I don't actually use yous to begin with, because I never samefag, so I don't need to have (You) all over the threads

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>>153187171
It probably is. When Tetsutetsu was carrying her during the camp attack, he turned one of his arms to steel so he wouldn't get cut with the thorns.

>>153186824
Couldn't he just do a phase punch through kirishima's armor?

So that is how the grapefag is fucking with the (you)s is just checking the "you" option and every single post that reply to with will gain a (you). Why the fuck that feature was added is anyone's guess.

>>153187506
By popular demand because guys like you were sick and tired of having to manually remove the (You)s in MSPaint

now they can just use the (You)s for their intended purpose more easily - to pretend they're not samefagging

>>153187349
I gotta ask what you're using to get to that?

>>153187505
that was actually what I was arguing

but the Mirio apologists get butthurt when you suggest that

I guess not even they would be able to argue that Mirio isn't the most overpowered fucker in the universe if he can phase punch things (giving his punches super strength)

>>153187545
You are a sad person your only happiness is samefagging this threads and self inserting in a manlet with a micro dick.

>>153187596
I'm not the guy who posts screenshots of the (You) to pretend he's not samefagging

I never samefag

and I don't self insert as Mirio

>>153187359
Tetsu > Kiri
Prove me wrong

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>>153187640
Sure you don't and really who the fuck asked for this shit.

You can be the entire thread if you want.

>>153187573
But that makes no sense. Him being able to have enough control to be able to do the phase punch is only indicative of the benefit that training was. Why would it be showing his quirk is overpowered when it is through the training that it became useful?

>>153184764
What boys are they gossiping about?

Todoroki

>>153187759
Probably the teachers. Teenage girls as a whole are much more attracted to adult men than to teenage boys.

>>153187573
>>153187505

He can't physically phase through things.

His body "pushes" out leaving the material he's phasing in unaffected.

Otherwise him testing out his phasing would have led to some gruesome results.

>>153187855

>no teen girls shown gushing over an embarrassed All Might

such a wasted oppurtunity

>>153188218
But we don't know if there is any force exerted when he gets pushed out of something. We can assume there is some force since he can use that to move much faster than he usually could. That could be used to guess that if he unphases when inside someone there is some kind of force that is exerted to push mirio out of the body that could be like getting a punch.

>>153187686
Well, Kirishima passed to the second round of the Sport Festival, while Tetsu didn't, so

>>153187759

The boys are having an arm-wrestling competition.

>>153184822
Who will win best boy? Place your bets!

>>153188598
Spoilers say Baku won

>>153188674
Fuck off Hori

>>153184863
Ilda best bro

>>153185843
>thinking Tintin's going to live much longer in a series like this

Overhaul's gonna make paste out of this faggot while Deku watches helplessly as a lesson that even being close to the best means not taking dumb risks or thinking you're unbeatable.

>>153189379
Switching to Overhaulposting now?

>>153184822
How hard do you guys think Kirishima was seeing this?

>>153184822
L-L-Lewd!
>>153184863
That's pretty gay.

>>153189379
Boring, make it more dramatic by making tintin died to overhaul because he had to save deku from him.

>>153190493
Maybe we can give somebody else development and have tintin die for another character? Deku isn't the only character.

>>153190573
Well, I would like that, but considering Deku has appeared in all the chapters minus one, I don't think that will happen.

>>153190380
Ilda is just being a good hero

>>153190573
He is already set to be bros with deku.

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from the last thread
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>>153190746
Yo are you drawing anymore art?

>>153190746
Draw more.

>>153190746
Taking requests? and before anything no it isn't anything grape or related to any problems.

Spoilers out yet?

>>153190746

You know, when I saw this uncolored, I thought Momo was just making a sign to cover his junk.

>>153191173
In one day andfour hours.

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>>153191173

>>153190746
shit drawing that looks like it was drawn by a five year old

>>153182767

What is this even for?

Do MHA schools have sports teams? Are we going to see sports? Is there quirk baseball? Why are All Might's titties so detailed?

>>153191411
Diaperfag

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>>153191411

Dammit. I thought you finally got banned.

toc is out

>>153191336

>>153184863
sleep tight deku

>>153191491
The mods tried to ban some of us but the grapebrother alliance is too smart for them!

>>153191432
>not fully appreciating All Might's Ultra Tiddies™
Kids these days have no respect

01 Black Clover c.90
02 One Piece c.849
03 Neverland c.19
04 Soma c.195
05 Hero Academia c.119
06 Kimetsu c.42
07 Yuna c.43
08 Sesuji c.79
09 Samon c.61
10 Gintama c.616
11 Saiki c.224
12 Amalgam c.10
13 No.01 c.9
14 Ole Golazo c.3
15 Demon's Plan c.4

>>153192073
NO

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>>153192073
I always imagine that Mei has a thick bush that mimics her hairstyle.

>>153192073
sauce?

>>153192073

>then it explodes

>>153191869
>Promised Neverland in third
Nice, I really like that series.

>>153189541
No I gotta agree with this one. Tintin is really All Might 2 considering the amount of death flags he's got.

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>>153192408
>"I'm sorry Deku, I can't have your baby anymore because of an accident. But I installed a new pussy with 7 different pleasure settings and a morphing vaginal wall that memorizes dick shapes. it also has bluetooth!"

>>153193037

>then it explodes

>>153191869
Fuck BC hoW is

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>>153193077

>>153193037
I like to imagine if Deku never got All Might powers he and Mei could make a fun hero support couple in after those lower classes or something

Between his knowledge of knowing what heros need and her ability to make whatever.

>>153192200
a bunch of hair sausages down there would make her look like something she's not

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>>153193858

>>153183026
can't read the moon rune but the art is nice

having 2 manga in Jump drawn in Horikoshi's style would be nice

>>153195081
Retard

>>153196679
rule 6

>>153184863
I remember doing this to my friends whenever we went to school trips.

Their dicks peeking out from their undies were tempting, but bros before dicks.

>>153193085
BC is a better Naruto

>>153197111
i mean the MC is basically Rock Lee

>>153182884
Broken as fuck
>Ochako

Possibly cheating
>Birb

Standard performance enhancement
>Deku
>Sugarman
>Iida
>Ojiro
>Tsuyu

Non-standard performance enhancement
>Todoroki
>Kirishima
>Aoyama

Interesting utility
>Grapist
>Momo
>Sero

Only good for blinding the batter
>Hagakure

What the fuck do you do with this?
>Souji
>Kaminari
>Jirou
>Kouda

Possibly detrimental if used
>Bakugou
>Ashido

>>153197279
You know, I couldn't read beisbaw correctly until I saw your post.

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>>153197279
all Ochako needs is some heavy duty training to get her maximum weight limit up and to improve her flying ability.

maybe one day she will be able to control the direction of the objects she touches. that's the next logical step in her power.

>>153197279
>What the fuck do you do with this?
>Souji
Anon please.
I'll agree with the other three being useless in baseball, but Shouji?

Nigga literally could have 6 catchers mits.
He could bud off hands to reach flyballs
He could signal for pitching in unique ways

He couldn't really benefit with hitting bsides being SWOLE with more arms swinging, but he'd be a great player anywhere on the field.

Also, Ashido could totally use her acid to give herself MAX RANGE SLIDES

>>153187758
>But that makes no sense. Him being able to have enough control to be able to do the phase punch is only indicative of the benefit that training was.

ohh! a new paradigm shift in Mirio apologist mantra?

>okay, now he can Phase Punch and have super strength on top of invincibility
>B-BUT his quirk is still super duper weak!! i-it's only his Naruto training that made it good!!!

>>153197279
How the hell do you think Aoyama's quirk be useful but not Shouji? He's a super strong mutant with 6 arms, he'd be one of the best players

>>153187759
no, Mineta you idiot

>>153188510
>>153187758
The idea of Mirio doing a "Phase Punch" is fundamentally misunderstanding his power.

His catapult acts as a glitch in a game, he is pushed in a certain direction (hence his being able to orient his body to change the trajectory) until he is in open air.
But from what we've seen, there isn't a FORCE to it. He always just near instantly moves to the spot and then stops immediately. There's no continued momentum.

Ergo, he can't "phase punch".
If he Phased into something then unphased, he'd just be ejected (there didn't seem to be any marks on the ground when he popped up so there doesn't seem to be an affect on the thing he's coming out of).
And if he tried to use the "catapult" as a means for momentum to speed up a punch, it would fail because either
>The arm gets clear before contact and loses it's momentum
or
>The person is in the path of the arm making it so it can't solidify, with the result probably being that he "teleports" past the person to the next open space.

>>153188674

Of course

his regular punches are as strong as Sugarman on max sugar after all

>>153190746

I am not even a Minetafag, but you have literally 0 (zero) drawing skill

I could draw better han you using only MS Paint and my cheap mouse

>>153197917
prove it then, "not" minetafag

>>153197884

>next chapter
>Hori just explicitly shows he can phase punch people for super strength, that's why he didn't get OfA since it would be kinda a waste

can't wait to see Mirio apologist face then

How do I filter Minetafags posts?

>>153198076
stop being a newfag or go back to deddit

>>153198038
Okay?
Sure, if he does it in the actual manga at some point, I'll be proven wrong.
Oh well, buddy. It's just a japanese comic for little boys, not something I'm gonna lose sleep over.

>>153198158
well, you got one here.

>>153198038
I feel like you're trying to make this some kind of adversarial thing when it really isn't. We simply don't know enough about the fine details about how he can use his powers and what he's figured out what to do with it.

>>153184732
Thank you Anon.

>>153184732

>pulling out a folding chair on a bus

Who the fuck does this?

>>153198298
We know that he is completely invincible when he's phased and he can stay virtually all the time phased

but he still has the audacity to say that he is only overpowered because of his hard training, even though his invincibility is literally just turning his quirk on and off again

He is literally a hypocritical little cunt, just like Naruto, in fact worse than Naruto since at least Naruto's parents were super strong or something, meanwhile Mirio simply won the lottery

>>153198374

Nah, he's got a high skill floor and ceiling Quirk.

As opposed to someone like Todoroki who has a low skill floor, high skill ceiling Quirk.

You're mostly right, though. Take Bakugou for instance, who has definitely put a lot of work into his Quirk, but there's only so much you can do with "makes explosions" and most of his strength simply comes from his combat experience and talent. I'm sure by graduation he'd have as much experience and effort put in as Mirio, but he'd never be able to beat the guy just because the Quirks has a better yield.

>>153198350
Japanese school buses always have a folding chair like that, it is called the 遅い椅子 (lit. "retard chair") where they put the local class autist on when he's sperging out as punishment

>>153184913
>Ochako still only sucking Deku's dick
She used to be a good main heroine.

>>153198454
>but he'd never be able to beat the guy just because the Quirks has a better yield.
oh god, the irony

>he doesn't know what Bakugo is the only guy who is allowed to beat invincible Mirio

>meanwhile, guys who actually could have beaten him (Denki, Mineta, Mina) failed, and the last one (Endeavor) would probably fail too

>>153198465
Nah. It's the chair where the most handsome guy sits, jealous Minetaposter

>>153198498
not even a Minetafag but I find it embarrassing how anyone could possibly think that
not only that someone crispy like that is "handsome" but also the very fact how completely nonsensical it is to "award" someone by making him sit on a chair that can easily kill you like that

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>>153198374
We've had this discussion before and it goes no where but I'll try this again.

His quirk is being intangible. Being able to turn intangible is a great ability yes. But not being able to control what turn intangibles makes it a difficult quirk to use. That required training. Without that training he'd simply be dropping in and out of the ground while blind and deaf without the ability to breath. It was the training to be able to control what became intangibile, being able to change the tangibility of multiple body parts on the fly, how to control where you are going to appear when you do become tangible, and how to be able to figure out what the opponent is going to do while you can not see or hear them that made him stupidly strong.

Is the quirk powerful? Yes.
Did it require training to actually be useful? Yes
Are you going to disregard this and keep posting the same arguments anyway? Most likely.

>>153198660
>His quirk is being intangible. Being able to turn intangible is a great ability yes.
Not quite as good as Mirio's version of it that actually makes him completely invincible though

>he will never stop the cognitive dissonance

why is it so hard to just admit that Mirio is Naruto 2.0

all you do is constant non stop excuses

even pretending that "oh, but for Mirio, it must have been super hard to turn his quirk on only some parts of his body, even though Kirishima and Mina etc could already do it when they entered U.A. that's totally different!!"


>Did it require training to actually be useful? Yes

TL;DR of your post = "Being invincible is not actually useful you know!!" (Mirio WAS invincible the moment he knew how to turn it off)

>>153182767
This manga is shit, it'll never be as grand and amazing as Naruto. It's not even manly enough to be considered good, it's mc is a wimp, it's female supporting character is an air head and the big 'good' is a creepy boogeyman. It's villains are also shit and not even close to amazing like say DIO from Jojo. Why does this pathetic excuse of manga exist? IT's so goddamn awful.

>>153198714
>This manga is shit, it'll never be as grand and amazing as Naruto.
so if Mirio was the protagonist, you would love it
I bet most of the sheep who love him want him to be the protagonist actually

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>>153182884
>rankings
>not a scouting report

1. SS Grapes, incredibly small strikebox, good timing, average power. involved in numerous groping incidences.
2. 3B Tsuyu, incredible defensive prowess, good vision and reflexes in both batting and making plays.
3. CF Iida, Elite speed and power, 5 tool player.
4. DH Kouda, Lots of power and not much else.
5. LF Uraraka, The stat nerds wet dream, good for 10+ WAR a year. very light with the bat, but can create runs. always gives it her all. she is particularly good defensively when Deku is pitching.
6. 1B Momo, has some unique skills and is a solid defender.
7. RF Shouji, incredible reach and athleticism.
8. C Kirishima, has some really good power at the plate, but no discipline. leads the team in strikeouts
9. 2B Tokoyami, wildcard. very intimidating, but shy's away from contact in key moments. lowest average on the team.

Rotation:

1. Deku, His fastball tops out at 104 MPH. He's small for a pitcher, but he has the arm of Randy Johnson. He lacks a good third pitch and has injury concerns as well.
2. Bakugou, explosive fastball, 12-6 curve, and a killer breaking ball. when emotions get the best of him, he loses command. leads the league in walking batters via HBP
3, Mina, incredible control despite a slow fast ball. has been ejected 3 times in the last two seasons for tampering with her ball.
4. Ojiro, pitches with his tail. can create a knuckleball with said tail that is impossible to hit.
5. Todoroki, you never know what you will get with this guy. some days he is on fire, other days he is ice cold.

Relievers:

Satou, he really knows how to put some extra sugar on his fastball.
Kaminari, starts off electric, but can only be effective for 2 innings at most.
Aoyama, his fastball is laser accurate, but he can't seem to throw a curve,
Hagakure, her sinker can just disappear at times.

Utility OF/IF/DH:

Sero, good at all things, master of none. struggles to get playing time.

Play by Play announcer:

Jirou

>>153198758
>Play by Play announcer:
nice codeword for "girl who sneaks into the American gaikokujin players changing room after game"

>>153198498
the most handsome guy is Bakugou, no homo

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>>153198794
Too bad his face looks like he's smelling shit 24/7

>>153198794
not even quite, his face is quite clearly plain as fuck with an ugly pig nose (none of the girls ever lust after him)

but he will get to fuck Ochaco and impregnate her, so he is far more successful with girls than crispy

>>153198708
Yes he's invincible when using his quirk. That's not up for debate. It's actually being able to use that which is harder. Kirishima's quirk first developed in his hand at the age of 4. It wasn't an instant full body thing. That's how he got his scar over his eye. Why can't you understand that different quirks can have different levels of difficulty to use? Why is that such an impossibility to you?

Being invincible isn't useful if you can't do shit while you're invincible. Mirio wouldn't be able to beat any villain or any of the kids if he could just turn invincible but would phase into the floor, since his feet are now intangible, and be unable to see or hear them.

>>153198714
>>153198742
>>153198794
>>153198841
Holy shit the shitposters are shitposting each other. I feel like we're seeing nanobots self replicating.

>>153199215
>All this pure factual arguments
This is the actual person who should make the infographic on how OP Mirio is

>>153199215

I used to be a Mirio apologist. Then I read this post and got crushed.

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>>153199215
Why fucking couldn't he have just been jacked enough to break the robots? If invisigirl can do it it shouldn't be impossible. Hell we saw deku rip part of a robot off and fucking wield it to victory during the sport festival race. Hell i bet ojiro wasn't using only his tail to break them either. Honestly we have to assume that the robots weren't super durable because of characters like invisigirl, tsuyu, and sadrock. Or rescue points are handed out quite liberally. Obliterating argument my ass.

And why can't you think some quirks are harder to use than others? That's like saying that reading is the same difficulty fir all people. Or everyone has the same level of challenge with certain things. It's fucking retarded.

So what dumb shit you gonna come back with next?

>>153199694
>Why fucking couldn't he have just been jacked enough to break the robots?

Not even her but
>your only hope is pretending that the U.A. metallic robots can be smashed with someone who has only the strength of a regular person, meaning that every single person who goes gomad+crossfit can easily pass the U.A. high entrance exam then

>every single person who goes gomad+crossfit can easily pass the U.A. high entrance exam then

> If invisigirl can do it it shouldn't be impossible.
Rescue points only, or she could refract light in their sensors to disable them.
>rip part of a [destroyed] robot off

does anyone know if the ln is going to be translated?

>>153199694
>Ojiro
mutant tail
>Sadrock
his apologists have been saying for years it's because of his mutant body being solid as a rock (maybe there were animals anyway)
>Tsuyu
easy rescue points and perhaps she could also lick them behind their plating just like she can use her tongue to go behind the foreskin

you are just full dmg control mode

>>153199788
not to mention if Mirio was "so weak" without training, then why is he suddenly supposed to be up to par with a karate master like Ojiro

at this point it just feels like kicking the Mirio apologist while he's already down and near death (still feels good tho)

>>153199742
>>153199788
And Aizawa? He was a student at UA. How'd he take on the robots? And he could still have gotten rescue points as well.

It's a shit argument touted out as some coup de grace.

>>153199807
Have you seen the guy? He's fucking jacked. Are you being intentionally obtuse? Like you know what people mean when they say he wouldn't have been that strong. Because yeah being invincible is great but only if you can be useful while being invincible.

>>153199807
Bitch please. This is some weak ass shit. Your arguments are mostly trash which you only think are good because you've convinced yourself so and won't see otherwise.

How the fuck are you people still arguing about this shit?

Why do we never see Tsuyu kick anyone? Her legs have to be strong as fuck if she can leap that high

>>153199937
>Have you seen the guy? He's fucking jacked.

>>153199742
>>every single person who goes gomad+crossfit can easily pass the U.A. high entrance exam then

Furthermore, you have literally no idea if he was that muscular back then

his "muh training" whining implies otherwise.

>>153199888
>And Aizawa?
Easiest explanation : got in through recommendations.

Otherwise, they had to have him use his gadgets (those wraps), since he can't even rescue people unlike Mirio with his phasing and Invstits with her invisible tits.

>>153200021
The Mirio apologist refuses to go to sleep (he's clearly american), Europeans understand that Mirio was born with an OP as fuck Quirk and that he's just giving us bad excuses

>>153199961
>apologist breaking apart so hard that he has to use ad hominem yet again

>>153200063
Fuck off with this highschool debate club shit.

>>153199888
>And he could still have gotten rescue points as well.
>>153199215
>he NEEDED to have the ability to partially use quirk on only some parts of his body if he went through with rescue points only (unless you want me to believe that he had the "catapult wherever he wants" ability instead)

right now, that feeling when you got completely raped by pure logic and facts on every side?

I guess now you know what it feels like when Mirio loses all his senses and is falling down

so you should love this I guess?

>>153200072

And this is the same guy who always whines about how Grapefags this, Grapefags that. Yet when he gets literally destroyed by actual factual arguments only discussion all he can do is shitpost.

Sad!

How did Mirio gutshot Deku while he had 7% one for all active?

Surely he should be able to take a hit from a regular strength human, even if they are peak fitness

>>153200116
>tfw another fellow over 130 IQ poster also joins in on kicking the Mirio apologist while he's down group-fun

Shit even I didn't think of that

I don't think it's possible for anyone to say that the Mirioposters have any right to be treated seriously after this

>>153200105
Go back to /pol/ with this weak shitposting

the autism in this thread is off the charts

Can we all agree that "Yaoi Hands" is the worst superpower out of all the UA students thus far?

>>153200196
It's shitposters shitposting shitposters shitposting shitposters at this point. The thread's beyond saving. Only thing to do now is hope the mods nuke it.

Stop saying Mirio is strong because of his Quirk!! He was super weak until his intership!!!! Only because of his training is he strong now

Oh and btw he was fit as fuck before his training already, able to smash steel robots with no training and bear hands only. He could literally beat Tetsu to a pulp with only his pure /fit/izenry, ayup.

>>153200261
>not wanting a super handjob
fag

>>153200269
This. I also always hope mods delete the entire thread when I lose an argument, which makes everyone else automatically a shitposter

>>153198374
>stay virtually all the time phased

He can stay phased for as long as he can hold his breath.

>>153200336
Nah it is a lot stronger than mirios quirk without training

>>153200116
That actually is a very good question.

>>153200376
>pop out for a step
>take breath
>instantly phase again

Only the likes of Denki, Endy & Mineta can use this to lay a trap and fuck him with her

>>153200425

Fighting him's obviously gonna be whack a mole.

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I went to comiket last december and saw this. Thought you BHA people might like it.

>>153200362
I wasn't the one arguing with you. I woke up like twenty minutes ago, but believe what you want if it makes you feel better.

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>>153200481

>>153200481
>>153200499
qt!!!!

>>153200443
But his 6th sense unfortunately makes him impossible to get whacked unless you target the ground in advance by laying a trap, or you have to beBakugo

>>153200499
>>153200481

I will cut off my dick if this Tsuyu doesn't also have a dick

obvious trap is obvious

>>153184764
I kinda like Jesus. Too bad because she looks like the kind of character that won't be developed much.

>>153184863
Haha, Iida's pretty cute!
Seems like he would be a comfy roomate when he isn't freaking out.

>>153201568

I think she's developed quite enough already if you know what I mean, ehehehe

>>153201587
Wow all this bullying of Tenya because of his Asperger syndrome makes you think he's some sort of mentally retarded person who needs to be put down before he threatens the security of other heroes like that Kazan guy from The Cube

>>153202034
Literally how can Bacon compare

>>153190746
Why are Tumblr artists attention whore feminists?

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>>153202081
Why are you so obsessed with Todoroki? Sounds like you're in love with him

>>153200481
>>153200499
That's a dude.

>>153200063
In all this post you don't have any solid response.

>>153202140

very, very weak bait

sad

>>153200081
You didn't give a reason there. You just assumed something so you think it's fact. That's not how this works.

>>153202181
>>153202202

>n-nothing you said is reasonable because I refuse to accept it

I literally have William of Ockham on my side, standing behind me in fact

>>153200326
You do realize this isn't how you debate right? Why do you think this makes you anything but a child?

>>153202230
>Still hasn't given an actual reason

I'm waiting

>>153199742
The only person who only had rescue points was Deku. You can see the scoreboard in earlier chapters.

>>153200326
>Oh and btw he was fit as fuck before his training already, able to smash steel robots with no training and bear hands only.
Source on that anon

>>153200116

I'm not the Mirio apologist guy but I get the feeling that the gut punch was just a show of strength. Everyone was almost immediately back up after he finshed. I imagine Deku and the other tougher students were fine after the gutshot- the point was hey, Mirio can hit everyone really fast with relative impunity.

>>153200116
Does OfA give him a durability boost? I didn't think it did

>>153202448
It did to All Mighty

>>153200116
Possibilities:

>>He disrupted Deku's concentration with that feint eye jab, causing him to lose full-cowl
>>His phasing actually causes significant discomfort when passing through humans

>>153202625
Yeah but All Might can also use 100% without shattering his arm. The durability thing is honestly something i don't get with the quirk.

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>>153202630
>>He disrupted Deku's concentration with that feint eye jab, causing him to lose full-cowl
I don't think that was it. You can see that Full Cowl is still deployed, even after Mirio's poke.

I don't think the punch itself was particularly powerful, but since Deku wasn't braced for the blow, it wound up impacting him a lot more than an ordinary strike. Less like rendering him unconscious, and more like getting the wind knocked out of him.

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>Your waifu has mosquito breath.
>Yfw

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>The ranking keep getting lower than Black Clover again

IT'S OVER BROS

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>>153203061
Stfu bcfag

Volume 10: 208,539 (3 days)
Volume 11: 203,825 (3 days)
Volume 12: 183,544 (3 days)
KEK MAX
this is the future of jump guys

>>153203061
>>153203246
Hey he's found new shitposting material

>>153203246

>>153203150

Can't even make your own material?

>>153203246
W-what the happened? Why the Japs are abandoning BnHa

>>153203246
Didnt Jap fans also bash the newest volume in amazon.jp? Saying how the license test was redundant, and Hori keep introducing us new characters, while mostly and suddenly forgets the last ones

>>153203500
Hori decided to waste everyone's time with the previous arc

>>153203434
Give me more of your tears I NEED THEM
COS I!M EVIL!

>>153203505
>amazon.jp
Why are you so fucking stupid?

>>153203500
Nothing. Everything is down from the previous volume par the course with Jump releases.
>>153203505
>amazon.jp
KEK

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>>153203505
Why are you taking the comment section of Amazon seriously especially when most of them was just flaming? Hell the fanbase managed to get the ratings up by spamming more 5 star reviews in retaliation.
>Saying how the license test was redundant,
They're going to be fighting villains in the future why the fuck would getting a license be redundant when the past arcs pretty much drilled into them that they couldn't fight villains without them.
>Hori keep introducing us new characters, while mostly and suddenly forgets the last ones
You see the old characters in this arc. Wow trolls in Japan are almost as bad as trolls on /a/.

Loving the tits, but it seems this week won't be heavy on the plot.
Maybe editor's choice to balance last week heavy stuff?

>>153202261
Funny coming from you
>>153202281
>>153202202
>>153202181

>factually and logically deconstructed on every single side
>"g-give me something reasonable [and I am the sole arbiter who decides what is reasonable and what is in't!]"

>>153204063
see >>153200072

>>153202316
That was meant to be sarcasm, it is what the apologist cunt here is saying >>153199694 when he was confronted with reality (that Mirio was able to phase parts of his body even back then, just like Mina/Kirish/Denki could do it even back then).

>>153202630
>>>His phasing actually causes significant discomfort when passing through humans

aka phasing punch, aka Mirio has superpowered punches on top of literal invincibility, aka "Mirio's quirk is super duper weak"-posters on suicide watch, yet again

>>153204210
>literal invincibility
he needs part of his sole to be vulnerable to even stand on the floor. You got a fucking explanation 2 weeks ago, stop that whole speedreader shit.

>>153183241
>>153186973
>implying it wasn't funny as fuck

>>153202285
Post proofs, I can't find a full 36 list anywhere, or else >>153202341


Plus, I already covered the other possibilities already anyway (Invistits quirk already allowed her to do something more with light even back then = by the way while writing this I finally had an epiphany as why she wasn't the last - she could use her invisibility to just cheat through some of the races, i.e. the marathon = heck she doesn't even need to use the light bending, she could just slowly and steadily climb onto a robot, just like she climbs onto a cock, with which she has a lot of experience, and then just jam it into the robots weak parts; Tsuyu could do the same with her delicate tongue; Mirio couldn't do anything like this even if he was /fit/ as fuck which he probably wasn't anyhow)

>>153204264
>he needs part of his sole to be vulnerable to even stand on the floor.
...wow

just wow

he pulls up this completely irrelevant shit and calls me a speedreader

who said anything about standing on the floor??

>>153204313
>completely irrelevant
I obliterated your "complete invincible" nonsense, literal retard. now go power trip back to your mom's basement, you little shit.

>>153199215
>couldn't handle the argument
>better report it so it gets deleted and no one can see it

Mirioposters are a pathetic joke

>>153204362
>I obliterated your "complete invincible" nonsense,

>waah, he needs to have a sole unphased to STAND

>unphases the sole
>completely invincible

why do I have to explain everything like to a 5 year old having a autism fit?

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>>153182767
Well shit these threads are as awful as usual
see-ya!~

>nothing be shitposting
Delete mods.

>>153204167
You're making assumptions without proof again anon. There's a number of other students who would have to be able to physically break the robots. Invisigirl, tsuyu, aizawa, air shield kid all must have been able to destroy the robots.

>>153204454
Thank you for reposting it for the rest of us

We, the people, shan't be denied the truth!!

>>153204210
No one's saying it's fucking weak you legitimate retard. It just needed training to be useful in a hero/combat setting.

when is the worst arc going to end

>>153204467
See >>153202341, until Hori unleashes a picture of all the entrance exam results, there's no way of telling how much they had for rescue or for killing robots

I already explained Invistits and Tsuyu and Aizawa

Air shields quirk was never fully demonstrated

>>153204520
the point of the entrance exam argument is that it shows that he was already able to phase parts of his body even then

his "needed training" did nothing more than him now being able to re-position himself while he's falling in order to cheat-launch elsewhere than where he fell into the ground
which is, at most, 30% increase of his effectiveness compared to how strong he was at birth - just because of him being born with the strongest quirk and a 10% increase compared to how strong he was when he passed the Exam

>>153204454
>>153204383
Oh that's what was deleted. I wonder why. It wasn't even a good argument and this whole argument has been cancerous so it's weird that it was singled out. Maybe the mods noticed it was written in shitposter format.

>>153204572
It did. We're starting a new arc with best boy Mirio, and best edgelord Overhaul.

>>153204606
>It wasn't even a good argument

Coming from the guy who had literally no counter-argument to it and who probably is responsible for it being deleted in the first place because he couldn't handle being unable to come up with a real counter-argument

>>153204456
the next chapter is going to save this thread

>if the Yakuza are an endangered species
>I wonder what happened to all the other organized crime gangs
>how much worse/better are the mafia off in Italy, or the drug cartells of Columbia
>we know very little of the heroes and villains from the other countries
>and the way All Might appears always seems like he's the Number one hero of the world even though his area of activity seems to be only Japan

>>153204590
What? You're guesses how those characters could destroy robots were weak as hell. Although I can't tell what you're aizawa one was since some one is cracking down on your posts.

What i don't understand is your reasoning that because he could get through entrance exam he had to be able to phase parts of his body. I mean what if he was one of the special kids that didn't need to take the exam? What if he got mostly rescue points? If your argument for aizawa was him having a gadget why couldn't mirio use some kind of tool to help him destroy the bots even if it's some rebar rubble or something. We don't know where he was when he started but we saw that he's still having issues with the finer points of his quirk as he ends up losing his clothes accidentally.

TL;DR info"graphic" (some other Mineta friend make this into a graphic)

>How did they make it?

Invistits
>easy rescue points farming + she could have disabled a few easy robots by climbing on top of them and then precise striking between the edges
Tsuyu
>easy rescue points farming + who knows where her tongue can get and spread her saliva (ruins circuitry)
Kouda
>in fact, his apologists who say "oh he just punched em with his rock hands" were wrong, all he had to do was tell the underground worms and rats and shit to kill themselves inside the robots to immobilize them
Aizawa
>almost 100% guarantee he was specially chosen far in advance as a recommendation student, he was born in an Era where cool quirks were much less common, and him getting in like this goes line with the "subtlety" of his character
Ojiro
>can launch himself around at great velocity, definitely comparable to Tenya's power kick, far above normal muscle man punch/kick
Mirio (canon version)
>just like Kirishima / Denki / Mina, he was able to phase parts of his body even then, it was just as easy for him as it is for them, and he just farmed rescue points

Need I go on?


+bonus:
Mirio (apologist version - they don't allow him to use his Phasing to rescue people)
>"uhhhhh.... he was ripped and strong! so for some reason he was able to punch robots to death"

>>153204633
My counter argument is here
>>153204834
And I can honestly say I haven't reported anything here besides the grapeposter once. Honestly I think it was how you formatted that post that had an effect unless they're targeting your ip.

>>153204834
>You're guesses how those characters could destroy robots were weak as hell.

Yes well, my "weak guesses" actually involve their quirks and provide legitimate explanations

meanwhile, you are LITERALLY trying to convince us that the Killer Robots involved in the Entrance Exam are so weak that ANYONE can destroy them with nothing but normal punches and kicks if you're muscular - which would mean that anyone who is Quirkless is able to pass the Entrance Exam into the top academy in Japan

read the last sentence three more times, maybe then it will finally get through your skull

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>>153204864

Is this good enough, my fellow Grapesbrother?

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>>153204864

>make this into a graphic

You sure seem to be stuck on the idea of infographs now that someone mentioned it.

I can't wait until someone actually makes Mirio one. Then you'll actually have to come up with something new.

>>153204949
>I can't wait until someone actually makes Mirio one.

yeah buts what the point on making one out of lies and excuses?

>>153204864

Not even a Minetafag, but I agree with every single one of these assessment and I take my hat off to you for explaining all of this, I never thought about it this way before

>>153204864
You forget rescue points weren't something they knew about so them planning to farm for them makes no sense. Also all of this is nothing but you making baseless assumptions without any evidence. It could be just as likely that the 1point robots might not have been built sturdy on pupose so it's possible for them to be destroyed with a little effort. And I wish you wouldn't try and be so shitposty. I'm genuinely enjoying this argument.

Fuck off, generalfags.

>>153205000
>You forget rescue points weren't something they knew about so them planning to farm for them makes no sense

The only two people relying on them the most were female characters

just like Ochaco, they had a much more natural inclination to rescue the poor babies around them, because of their vaginas.

Tintin must have had a similar moment to Deku, first crying about how he can't even lay a scratch on any one of the robots with his DYEL arms

and then, when he was about to give up, he heroically phased through a 0 point robot to save the love of his life (Sasuke guy)

>>153205055
>and then, when he was about to give up, he heroically phased through a 0 point robot to save the love of his life (Sasuke guy)
Very romantic. Which also explains why he is an apologist in-universe.

>>153204467
>air shield kid

>make blockade in front of robot
>make blockade behind robot
>robot can't move anymore
>POINTO

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Banpresto for Darkness

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>>153205141

Why the hell even Mirio got a haters?

>>153205154
What is his quirk? Stealing shit?

>>153204935
>>153204995
>>153204864
Wait you're the grapeposter? That's a shame I thought this argument actually meant something.

>>153204921
You involved tsuyu's quirk by her sticking her tounge into a moving robot body to short circuit it. That's fucking idiotic and dangerous.
Your only guess for invisigirl is she hid and sat on top of robots poking weak spots. Why don't these robots have some kind of heart vision of they're such killer bots?
How is ojiro able to punch through steel? Are you aware how insanely tough that is?
Why do you think kouda would be willingly telling rodents to kill themselves for him. He's soft as fuck to the point you forgot that he wouldn't have talked to worms because he's terrified of bugs.
Your only argument against aizawa was he didn't rake the test because of his dope ass quirk which undermines your original argument because mirio is just as likely to have been selected because of his dope ass quirk
Air shield?

Your arguments are shit how about you turn this into an infographic you fucking faggot grapeposter.

>>153205157
For the same reason people hate Naruto Uzumaki
the author tries to push a narrative that goes against the actual in-universe reality of his fictional setting

>>153205157

It's the same person who wouldn't shut the fuck up about Mineta. He's just shitposting.

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>>153205198
>That's a shame I thought this argument actually meant something.

Not even her/him but wow, saying this really makes you look like a sore loser. I am shaking my head in disappointment at this points with arms akimbo.

>>153205117
>Shields able to be broken by normal human punch

Not that fucking useful.

>>153205219
>>153205203
one of these is a legitimate and correct explanation and an argument

the other one is a non-argument / argument ad hominem and ad populum

I let you figure out which is which

>>153205237
>implying Bakugo's punches are "normal human punch"
remember, this guy breaks all the rules all the time

I wouldn't be surprised if Satou at full sugar wouldn't be able to break them himself

>>153205227
I just mean that i now realize I've been baited into a pointless argument this whole time by someone who isn't actually trying to prove their point but drag out the argument as long as possible. I've become an accessory to the shitposting instead of part of an argument.

Will Hori try to save Ochako or is she doomed to drop in the popularity polls more and more as more fujo-favorites are introduced while Hori keeps ignoreing everything about her other than her crush on Deku?

>>153205296
>I refuse to believe that people could really like Mineta, so I also refuse to believe every single one of their other arguments, even though they are by far the most rational, logical and fact supported arguments posted ITT

well then

>>153205317
>>153185619

You already tried that once this thread.

>>153205317
Will Ochakorager finally kill himself?

>>153184863
I really like how Hori draws characters drooling.

>>153205322
Oh I never said that grapeposter. I like mineta but you actively attempt to start the same arguments over and over again no matter how many times you get told you're wrong about something. You just aren't worth talking to because it isn't going to mean anything.

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>>153205350

First time in one of these threads and everyone is a bunch of faggots, what a surprise.

>>153205343
I really wish that despite their status quo as the backgrounders, whenever theres a promo or something like these, Hori or the company includes one of Ojiro/Tokoyami/Mina or other lesser Class A, just to keep their appearance known or something.

>>153205536
Tsuyu and Ochako are only included to have some girls in there, ultimately they're even more irrelevant than Iida.

>>153205517
Oh buddy I'm sorry for you if this is your first thread here. We're at our most cancerous right before spoilers.

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>>153185755
I think they are. Granted you can't see momo's fits in this picture, but looking at tooru's, they are pretty huge

>>153205414
Is that Bakugou's dad?

>>153205203
>the author tries to push a narrative that goes against my headcanon
ftfy

>>153205599
Aizawa's pink tracksuit pants get me every time.

>>153205414
>Ochako wants to be a hero for the $$$
>Mt. Lady is a roach and reaps the benefits of her popularity
>the snake lady abused Momo's charm in commercials
Why are women in the Boku no Hero universe terrible golddigging beings?

>>153206119
because they are in real life too.

Hori keeps it real

Why couldn't Mirio just have done well at the sports festival to get into the heroics department?

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>>153206119
I don't think Ochako's motives are impure, though

>>153206582
everyone is like
>LOL she's a golddigger
she actually does it for her blue-collar parents
if her dad and mom didn't tell her that she would make a better hero than worker she would have helped her dad building

>>153206771
Because people who understand that aren't sperging out like autists.
But i doubt she got that much haters (even though it's true she became a bit too unidimensionnal to my taste for the last few chapters)

>>153204413
>explain
>contradict himself despite using simple basic logic
>grr I call him autistic that will make me win
nope, you are still the buffoon of this place, retard.

Ochako would be more interesting if she was an actual gold-digger.

>>153197884
I wonder, if he suffers sensory deprivation when he uses his quirk, how does he know when he's is in the open again?

>>153207096
A subtle gold-digger, or a shameless hussy right out of a raunchy comedy?

>>153207256
Subtle.

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>>153205157
The Mirio hater is just mad that the Phasing quirk doesn't kill Tin Tin if he unphases while inside of something. That and somehow having selective invincibility is the end all be all of a fight. Even when the author has shown us that Tin Tin is just an above average human in terms of strength so anyone with enough durability won't fall to just a gut punch. And even after we see that there is a villain who employs a "concealing" quirk and a gun that fires quirk suppressing darts.
And from a narrative level, Tin tin's immunity to being "telefragged" just facilitates the second part of his quirk which is his limited teleportation.

Thing is, having a powerful quirk is damn near required to be a top hero including #1 which is what Tin Tin is supposed to be next in line for. Look at the top heroes who we've seen (all the numbers are pre AfO fight)

#1 All might - Strongest human alive, insanely durable at his peak.
#2 Endeavor - highest tally of solved cases, Incredibly potent flame quirk
#4 Best Jeanist - incredibly capable suppression quirk, able to take a hit from AfO and retain consciousness
#5 Edge shot - Capable of using his quirk at super sonic speeds, infiltration expert, able to disable people from within
#10 Gang Orca - enhanced strength, sonar blast, good durability even in the face of his weakness

All of those guys have very potent abilities on top of their own training and areas of expertise. And given how we've seen Endeavor and All Might operate, these guys all probably travel around to solve problems and aren't restricted to just one area. Whereas someone like Ragdoll (Rank 32) is a rescue hero that sticks to mountain areas and needs to have a team because her quirk alone can't save people in a variety of situations.

Barring the AfO incident it seems like all of these heroes operate solo with limited support from their own affiliates. So having a quirk that is individually potent is a must for being at the top. Mirio checks this box.

>>153206860
I think right now people are disappointed with what her character has been doing for the last year

>>153203885
The license test is redundandt because the only important people who failed get the chance to retake it later, at which point they will obviously succeed. It doesn't even give the possibility of exploring what happens if one of the class can't get their license, it's just a vehicle to allow the author to allow the kids to fight 'badder' villains now

I hope this chapter is a slice of life chapter

I hope AM is talking to Deku and Mirio to tell Deku that hes made a grave mistake and would appreciate it if he passed on OFA to Mirio

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>Says he didn't intend to make him so hateable
>the character acts even more obnoxiously than before in his next appearance
What did he mean by this?

>>153205662
yeah, Hori is totally right

just like Naruto has clearly only go to his position through hard training and dattebayo because Kishimoto said that that's all his manga is about

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>>153207816
How is that any different from shit like the Sports Festival or the Teacher Exams?
Shit happened, and some students got setbacks for falling behind that were really only relevant for the next arc.

I think the real problem with the License arc (which honestly was only like 10 chapters taking out the training montage) is that it came after All for One vs. All Might.

There HAD to be a slow arc after that one. There wasn't really any way for him to top it.
The kids needed a boost and really it was just returning to the old formula of "Student life activity - Oh shit villains activity - repeat".

>>153206951

the only one who contradicted himself here is you, apologist

I said Mirio is completely invincible
then you said "but when he isn't completely invincible, he can stand above the ground!!!"

okay and