The impacts of deaths in Evangelion was poorly executed. I never

Rei > Asuka

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>>153126001
kaworu > both

>>153125979
>the viewer feels nothing

speak for yourself

the most impactful scene imo

>>153125979
>the viewer feels nothing
I can't remember how I felt about Rei's deaths but Kaji, Asuka, and Misato's definitely shook me the first time I watched it.

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>>153126001
ASUKA BEST

Rei nice girl, shame she'll always be second fiddle to Asuka, in any show without Asuka Rei would be the clear choice.

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Rei is cloned
Watermelons finally freed themselves
Asuka a best.If you felt nothing,then you're an emotionless piece of shit.

>>153125979
The scene in which the Evaseries maim and devour Eva 02 was "Poorly executed"?

Also, it was really clear Kaji died. It's just that in full eva style, they had to make it a bit more mysterious than a simple "he ded".

>>153125979
If you felt nothing at Asuka's howling MP Eva fight and death, then the problem is with you.

>>153126259
yeah. If Rei could survive a whatever explosion, why can't best girl survive getting torn apart? They cried wolf a few too many times and made it less meaningful when someone died for real.

>>153126309
> If Rei could survive a whatever explosion
Oh, man, are you retarded?

>>153126309
>If Rei could survive a whatever explosion
try watching it again dumbass

>>153126333
>>153126354
AND you're not even supposed to get hurt in an evangelion anyway, Shinji survived an explosion in episode one. They regularly had their limbs torn off.

>>153126309
Rei didn't survive the explosion.
The Rei you see after that is the another clone, this is basic shit.

And for fuck's sake... it was CLEAR AS DAY that Asuka died. They show her screaming in pain when the Lance of Longinus pierces her head, how do you think she's gonna handle being literally eaten alive by a flock of hungry monsters?
If anything, Shinji's devastated scream after seeing the corpse of Eva 02 should have settled the matter.

>>153126403
she might not have survived but she clearly lived. Toji got crushed and he was fine. The fact is, until a character specifically points out that someone is dead for good or it happens right on screen like with Misato, that's the only way you'd be certain, and it lessens the impact of the scene.

>>153126435
>she might not have survived but she clearly lived.

>>153126435
>she might not have survived but she clearly lived
What.

>>153125979
>we see Rei die, but she's clearly not dead
It's not how it works, she is dead, or better be dead, or even better not to exist in first place.
Pure innocaent creature whose meaning in this world lie in piloting and pleasuring gendoo.
In the whole series it's doesn't matter who will die next, matter how do theey live and suffer.
Death is a metaphor of escape from cruel world.

I remember being 13 and someone giving me two CDs with anime music videos. Everything was fine until there was these scene with a flock of seagulls tearing apart a woman in armor. I'd already seen Alien and Terminator but this was something completely new to me. And I expected the CDs to be just a bunch of cute characters jumping around. How disgusting.

Asuka's exudes a pure vibrancy that infects you, so charming and powerful only the heartless could avoid getting infected by her raw exuberant glory. She embodies the very pinnacle of femininity itself, with perfect aesthetics, a wild heart, but still tempered with a desire to be swept away by a strong lover.

>>153126435
Anon, people die when they are killed.

>>153126696
What have you been reading? What kind of words are these?

>>153126435
>Toji got crushed and he was fine.
this was disappointing, eva pulls its punches too often before the finale

>>153125979
The Reis are different people. The fact that she keeps coming is unsettling because of that.
Also Asuka's death was shocking as fuck.

>death doesn't mean death.
It does, instrumentality is the death of humanity as we know it, and asuka only comes back at the end just to be strangled by Shinji

>>153127193
>people

>>153126435
Go away Shirou

>>153127291
I meant individuals

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>>153126911
From Parano:

>Takekuma: Toji lost his leg. Why didn't he die there?

>Anno: I couldn't kill him.

>Takekuma: Of course.

>Anno: No, um, I made a certain promise, though I think now I should have broken it. At the very beginning, when [we] drew up the plan [for Eva], with the producer, from King Records, who told me, "I will approve the plan you submit, whatever it is, because I have faith in you. However, there will be two conditions. The first one is that you will remain with me for five years. You cannot, for example, do a film version with another [producer]. The additional condition is that you will not kill any children. The adults can die, but I don't want children dying." Because of that condition I couldn't kill [Toji].

>>153128026
>I think now I should have broken it
Truly the master

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>>153128069
He breaks it, and because of that the last two episodes become fucked up.

>the running out of cash thing isn't true - that's something that's become a popular theory more recently, which confuses me a bit because at the time, there was absolutely no debate over what happened to the final episodes. In fact, it was reported in Japanese newspapers at the time - it was quite a big news story, given Eva's huge popularity in its original terrestrial broadcasts.

>Anno and the rest of the Gainax team had been pushing production of the various episodes up closer and closer to the deadlines issued by their TV station, to the extent that they were actually biking episodes over to the broadcast centre on Beta tape only minutes before the broadcast time. This was tolerated, because Eva had some of the highest ratings of any show ever - until Episode 24.

>Episode 24 arrived at the station so late that it couldn't even be watched before being broadcast - it was slapped in a Beta drive and transmitted directly, without being reviewed by any staff at the station. Episode 24, you'll recall, is the Kaworu episode, which aside from the homosexual overtones (probably not actually an issue), ends with, er, a pop. Bear in mind that this was broadcast in a 6.30pm weekday slot on Japanese national television.

>The network went apeshit - it may have been in silhouette, and he may have been technically non-human, but you can't show a 14 year old popping his 14 year old friend's head off at 6.30pm on TV, even in Japan. Gainax, and Anno specifically, were accused of deliberately holding back the episode to prevent the network from seeing it before broadcast - and the network staff demanded to see the storyboards for the next two episodes. (Anno had previously made a promise with the TV station that he wouldn't kill any children in the show, which is why Touji didn't die and he went crazy with character deaths for EoE)

>>153128026
>I should have broken it
It would have been much more impactful if based Toji died. Much much more impactful. Sadamoto killed him in the manga, but I didn't like his execution of Shinji's comeback based on survivor's guilt. In the anime he makes his own decision to protect his friends despite his hatred for his own father, that shows character growth.

>>153128190
And Shinji just ends up ignoring Touji (And Kensuke) after anyway and never brings it up again, so he seems like that arc didn't even matter in the end.

>>153128174
T H E M A S T E R
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>>153128174
Awesome I didn't know that.

>it was slapped in a Beta drive and transmitted directly, without being reviewed by any staff at the station
>their faces when
Anno is so fucking based

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>>153128250
Think of all the little children who were watching this shit.
Traumatized for life.

>>153128286
Hell I was not a little children when I watched it and still got traumatized so yeah, poor kids

>>153128239
The beta master

>>153128174
Holy shit I imagine that
>Anno promises that it's good and they should just air it
>starts airing
>Anno just sits there with a massive grin and faps to his fanfiction with Ikuhara climaxing on the final guro
>everyone is screaming at him but he's just grinning and whispering: "Shinji is gay for Kaworu"
Absolutely based

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>>153128392
This is the reason why the birth rate in Japan has rapidly declined.

Anno singlehandedly made an entire generation of nip boys into gay faggots.

>>153128431
Most likely he made them into dakimura fags. Gay faggots at least seek other human beings.

>>153128636
Japan will die out in a century.

>>153128686
>yfw Japan will die out and be filled with immigrants, destroying Japanese culture and anime
It's painful to be best and worst country at the same time

>>153125979
>the viewer feels nothing because death doesn't mean death
You clearly don't get the point of Evangelion if you think it's as simple as that.

>>153128724
Anime is already dying, so who cares.

>>153128797
Can't have an Eva thread without at least one 2deep4U fag, now can you?

>>153126005
this

>>153126309
it's not our fault you can't comprehend simple style and editing
I was 12 when I first watched it and it all made total sense to me narratively even if I was too young to get the thematics yet

>>153126435
This show might not be for you anon

>the only time Asuka is ever truly happy in the entire show is minutes before she died
It's pretty impactful OP

>>153129040
what the fuck you are saying Anon, she literally cries the entire way through.

>>153129064
I'm referring to when she realises she's with her mother and is fighting the Eva units

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>>153129040
Asuka had the hardest life

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>>153128225
No, it mattered of course. Toji and Kensuke were the first people to truly support Shinji followed by Misato. They understood his decision to run away and didn't blame him for that. It showed to him that he's actually understood and that they care about him. That's why he shouts that he's a coward etc. In EoE we see Toji and Kensuke close to Shinji in that beautiful group photo. Shinji remembers his friends and wants to see them again. Shinji didn't make that decision out of nowhere. He was loved by people and they cared about him and in the last moment he understood the value of those people and those emotions. As for episode 24 they weren't in Tokyo-3 anymore, so Anno could write his little bishounen fanfiction with one particular homosexual angel.

>>153129271
Then why does he completely ignore them after the incident with Toji? Makes no sense.

>that beautiful group photo
You mean the photo with those NERV workers that Shinji never once met?

>>153129319
>why does he completely ignore them after the incident with Toji
because he's afraid to visit Toji in the hospital and is afraird of admitting his guilt?
>You mean the photo with those NERV workers that Shinji never once met?
>never once met
lolwut
the script said the photo would most likely be taken before episode 15, the best times

>>153129387
But he never brings up what happened with Toji ever again so it just feels like pointless filler.

I don't remember him ever meeting the NERV workers, but it's been a while.

I didn't even remember Toji's name until it was mentioned in this thread.

>>153128686
World War III will happen in this century anyways, so yeah it's not that bad.

>>153129429
NERV workers literally sit there with Misato during each battle or test. Plus in episode 11 children instantly recognize Hyuga's voice.
As for what happened to Toji, there were several scenes with him and Kensuke waving goodbye to Shinji, but they were deleted.

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>>153125979
>Asuka Soryu Langley, greatest fighter of all time, prettiest girl, kind to a fault, viciously murdered in what should be an impactful scene and the viewer feels nothing because death doesn't mean death.

I thought you didn't feel a thing because she was a bitch and had it coming to her

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>>153129571
Reminder that Asuka is best girl

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>>153129873
No, Asuka is dating Mari not Rei

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>>153129873
>>153129909
You wish, faggots

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>>153129927
Your tears are delicious!

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>>153129909
>dating a shitty ironic fanservice incarnate
nah, thanks
if Mari is a lesbo, she only loves Yui
Asuka is as straight as Shinji's cock in Kaworu's ass

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>>153129961
2013 Saboten Con.
YM = Yuko Miyamura (Asuka's seiyuu) TG = Tiffany Grant (Asuka's voice actor)

>Q: Does Asuka really like Shinji?
>TG: Are you stupid?
>YM: No.

>Q: What was your reaction when you heard about Rebuild?
>SS and TG: Getting paid.
>YM: A happy ending but it hasn’t happened yet. I wasn’t happy with the EoE ending. Shinji and Kaworu married.

>Q: Who do you feel Shinji should end up with?
>TG: I’d say Mari but I don’t like her.
>YM: Kaworu.

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>>153129954
I don't cry because I know I'm in the right

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>>153129995
Your reaction to 3.0+1.0 will be fun.

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>>153129954
Yours will be as delicious as delusional reifags' once we see 3.0+1.0
Can't wait for Anno to btfo all the shippers with ambiguous ending
>>153129983
>based Grant-sama dislikes shitty Mari
that's my girl
>Miyamura is a fujoshi
Should've known

>>153130029
Everyone's reaction to 3.0 + 1.0 will be fun. That's Anno we're talking about

>>153129983
Source on this ?

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>>153130043
Anno already made Khara a gay propaganda studio.

Canon lesbians in that Eva short they did.
Funding Yuri on Ice.

The list goes on.

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>>153130043
Not just Miyamura, all the voice actors are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlwTgRmcdb4

Starting from 2:05
>Misato's VA: For Misato, obviously Kaji-kun.
>Rei's VA: For Rei-chan, it'd be Ikari Gendo I guess. (Shudders)
>Rei's VA: As for the main character Ikari Shinji, who would his Orihime be? If it was Asuka it would be unbearable.
>Misato's VA: It would rain nonstop forever!
>Rei's VA: Then in that case, as expected, Kaworu-kun?

>Both: Kaworu-kun. (Nodding)

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>>153130101
Kaworu is dead. The last one standing wins

>>153130062
Keep up your hopes, anon, it will be funnier to see them tumbling down that way
>>153130056
I want Anno to make even darker (yet somehow positive) ending than EoE
I want him to crush everyone's dreams and hopes
I want him to destroy otaku, let him even use Kawoshin, which I hate, but let him do it
>>153130101
>For Rei-chan, it'd be Ikari Gendo I guess
>Rei is actually Gendo's cockslave
>Reifags eternally BTFO
Do they take themselves serious at all?

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>>153130148
Seeing otaku commit mass suicide over Shinji and Kaworu fucking would be hilarious, actually.

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>>153130148
And it was Rei's own voice actor that said Gendo is her ideal partner, kek.

I like how Evangelion anally destroys everyone who was going in expected a harem with the MC.

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>>153130148
I'm an Asuka Shinji shipper but I'm sure I'll be as mad as everyone when 3.0 + 1.0 airs, and will probably take months to recover, but somehow I can't wait for this devastation

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>>153130209
You're not already butthurt that Soryu isn't in Rebuild to begin with?

I am, she was my second favorite character after Kaworu.

>>153129602
Is that like a younger Kaji or an older Shinji? I'm confused.

>>153130239
Looks like a tranny to me

>>153130231
I was butthurt about what they made of her in 2.0. I really liked 3.0 on the other hand. I mean I'm not mad about Kaworu fucking Shinji because that's how the story goes and he dies at the end so...

>>153130183
We can call it the Hilarocaust.

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>>153130209
I don't ship anyone because it's retarded, but it felt like they were a quite non-standard couple in the original, yeah
As for rebuild, I don't really give a shit about it, since as >>153130231
said, Asuka's not even there, so I want it to be absolutely devastating to everyone, it's the only way I could have fun with it.
>>153130239
It's an older Shinji, as the artist said. You can tell by his eyes actually.

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>>153130259
>I really liked 3.0 on the other hand
Really? I'm shocked, most people hated it.

Even though Kawoshin is my OTP I actually wouldn't mind if Asuka ended up with Shinji, I want Asuka to be happy because she's my second favorite character. But I don't think Eva will ever end that way.

And I know Kaworu dying is important to the story, it just has to be.

>>153130289
Shipping is retarded, I hope we can all agree on that.

The only thing it's good for is making others butthurt.

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>>153130312
3.0 was great because it made Reifags drown in tears. And they deserve it.

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>>153130312
I though you said Kaworu's not gay, kaworufag-chan

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>everyone always fighting over rei v asuka
>occasionally someone says kaworu or misato is best
>tfw just want to bro it up with Kaji

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>>153130289
>it felt like they were a quite non-standard couple in the original, yeah
True, true. I was actually surprised, having read the manga first, how much more prominent and important Asuka was in the series, and how closer her relation to Shinji is.

>>153130312
>Really? I'm shocked, most people hated it.
It felt more like Evangelion than the fanwank that was 2.0, so I consider it the best rebuild and legitimately found it enjoyable.

>Even though Kawoshin is my OTP I actually wouldn't mind if Asuka ended up with Shinji, I want Asuka to be happy because she's my second favorite character.
That's why Kaworufags are cool

>>153129873
Source on this picture, please?

>>153130369
Who?

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>>153130380
Khara are filled with faggots, just wait till 4.0 and the threads will be filled with Mari and Asuka.

>>153130385
Shinji Ikari Raising Project

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>>153130351

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>>153130380
Kaji best boy actually
>>153130351
this, my God reifag tears are so fucking delicious, even more delicious then kaworu haters

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>>153130384
I liked Manga Asuka a lot because she was such a bro, but I agree her role wasn't as impactful as in the Anime.

>>153130427
The threads were already filled with Mari and Asuka during the 3.0 generals, even before we got a camrip.

It's going to be a clusterfuck of shitposting, I'm hyped.

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>>153130351
>worse than grandpa dying

>>153130435
Thanks a lot, Anon

>>153125979
even when I knew she would reappear at the end her death was still impactful.
>the viewer feels nothing
no, YOU felt nothing, cos you're dense and you're trying to be all uppity by implying all viewers felt nothing, well you're wrong.
Even the dub couldn't bring this scene down, it's that good.

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What if Anno gives us a threesome ending?

>>153125979
You're just retarded senpai.

>>153130559
I wouldn't mind, but Kaworu is dead

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>>153130583
What if he gives us an ending where everyone dies?

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>>153130495
>Ghost Patrol
fuck
>>153130495
>>153130427
So how do you boys think Anno will bring Kaworu back to shit on everyone with homolust again?
>>153130559
No, Asuka would never share, not herself, not Shinji
But that would be funny

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>>153130610
Final scene is pic related.

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>>153130597
It has to be properly mind fucking then

>>153130351
>Rei is so much less than what she used to be
Good shit, I needed that laugh.

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>>153130697
It gets better

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>>153130697
Are you implying she was never much to begin with ?

>>153128026
>>153128190
I think it was more powerful as it happened in the anime, where Toji didn't die but was crippled. He not only lost a leg (and I think an arm too?), but he lost his will to live. Shinji had to see how one of his few friends' life got destroyed by something that he did.

If Toji had died, at least Shinji would have remineded him as a friend, with his character intact. He didn't killed Toji's body, but he killed his soul.

>>153130610
I wonder how many marks are under her scarf, and if Shinji's back has so many scratches it looks like a zebra.

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>>153130635
Now, what I don't really want is a confirmation that Rebuild is really a sequel, because that actually destroys the original series' and EoE's positive messages and renders the whole story useless. That would be a completely disgusting thing even for the Master.
I remember that theory suggesting that
Mari -> Asuka
Kaworu -> Shinji
>>153130712
oh, I will be there when 3.0+1.0 comes and I will screencap
My God will I screencap
I like Rei, but it would be the funniest shit to ever come out of Eva

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>>153130712
>sorry to burst your bubble, but rebuild is Reifags route

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>>153130756
I just want whatever makes fans the maddest.

I'm more excited for the threads than I am for the movie itself at this point. God, will it be glorious.

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>>153130805
I'm not, it will be full of kids, first timers and /v/.

>>153129983
Retarded kaworufag

>>153129873
ROFL, Asuka wishes she had tits as big as those.

>>153130996
Rei always beat her in the boob department.

>>153130967
So just like /a/ usually is, then.

>>153130712
More sad than when a relative died because of what happened to a fucking fictional character.
Radical Reifags don't deserve to exist. They are cancer.

>>153131030
where's your proof, sir reifag

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>>153130712
>If he can actually finish the manga expect the end alot like EoE, except with Rei on the beach
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA BASED SADAMOTO

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>>153131071

>>153125979
I felt nothing because I don't remember anyone dying besides the gay guy. I didn't watch anything past the original shit though and haven't watched it in 15 years now.

>>153130756
>I like Rei, but it would be the funniest shit to ever come out of Eva
It's simply as that. Rei is ok. Reifags are the problem. I have nothing against the character.

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>>153131073
>Anno: Everyone understands that it's a fiction, but precisely because it's a fiction you have a pure feeling, you fall for the character to an even greater extent. You assume that an anime character will not betray you. Iku-chan said [to me], "in the last episode, please have Rei Ayanami get married and become pregnant. Just please betray the Ayanami fans. The Rei Ayanami they are thinking of is not real. The real Rei Ayanami gets married, and her belly..."

>Oguro: (laughs) Ah, if Ayanami really existed.

>Anno: He told me something like, "please, make them realize that, If she were real, she would get married, become pregnant, have a child, and grow older." I was thinking, "we don't have to go that far..." (laughs).

>Oguro: (laughs) Iku-chan is a wicked man.

>>153130712
Man, the rabid tribalism of reifags are both terrifying and humorous.

>>153125979
>Asuka Soryu Langley
>prettiest girl

Saged, reported, hidden.

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ZANKOKU

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>>153131559
NA TENSHI NO YOU NI

>>153130734
I wouldn't put it this way.
Toji never held hard feelings towards Shinji after losing his leg.
In the hospital, we see that he actually really wants to meet him, the problem is Shinji himself.
Shinji can't bring himself to look at Toji after crippling him. He never forgave himself for it. When he saw Toji in the crushed entry plug on 01's hand he felt like that was his own hand that maimed his closest friend.
Let's hope Toji came out of the LCL with his leg back and hugged Shinji.
>>153126309
Reminder that Rei 2 and Rei 3 are different characters.

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What'll happen with Evangelion after rebuild? Will Anno release his iron grip on the franchise and let it become Gundam 2.0?

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>>153131692
Nah, even if he does that, it'll be shit
Eva is a self-contained story, it doesn't really work as a franchise plot-wise
Just look at Rebuild. Eva's greatest flaw was that it's an anime with great design and characters (whom people fail to understand and see only shells) with all that follows, including merchandise, retarded fans etc.

>>153131773
What if the opposite is true?

>>153131692
Anno already said that was his intention. Sending the franchise off to other people.

Ignore this guy: >>153131773

>>153131877
What do you mean?
If it does work, then Anno will bathe in money
If you mean that the fact that it's an anime isn't flaw, then you are partially right

>>153131915
What I mean is he will jack out spinoffs and sequels at a steady pace, and his children and grandkids are going to bathe in money.

>>153131900
So we can expect a full military sci-fi transition with idolshit?

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>>153132030
Khara could literally save anime and the entire world along with it if they made something new and good

JUST FUCKING KILL EVA

>>153132030
Anno won't be in charge of the spinoffs and sequels.
He already stated he wants to move on from Eva and hand it out to other directors and creators.

>>153132107
Possibly.

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>>153132156
They're airing their new Anime Dragon Dentist next month.

>>153132195
yeah took them a fucking decade

i'm glad tho

>>153132219
True, I have no idea what they've been doing this whole time besides a few shorts, CMs, and Eva.

>>153126001
IT'S BEEN OVER 20 YEARS.
ANON YOU NEED TO STOP THIS.

>>153132161
I don't like the sound of that, if only he at least stayed as a production designer or supervisor for the franchise he created.

>>153132306
He doesn't care about Eva anymore. He doesn't want to work on it, he doesn't want any part in it.

He wants to do more live action works like Shin Godzilla. He's made it big, he doesn't need to rely on Eva anymore.

Eva is an embarrassment to him, a macaroni picture from his elementary school days.

>>153132362
Boy, can't wait to see even more butchered characters and over-the-top nonsense
Eva should have died in 1997

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>>153132362
>the possibility is very high that Anno will never do animation again

>>153132362
Neither do we really, he should move on already.
Eva ended with EoE.

>>153125979
Depends. Those of us who watched week to week were massively affected by Rei's self destruction, and to this day, Asuka's death in EoE is still one of the most impactful scenes in the entire series.

Kaiji's death was impactful because of its amiguity, and because it happens without emotion and without some kind of badass going down and taking everyone with him ending.

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>>153132448
He promised us he would make an Anime with Ikuhara.

I'm so fucking pissed.

>>153128286
Lightweights, they should have known it was coming.

>>153126402
There's a difference between an explosion on the outside of an Eva, and the Eva self destructing. Use some common sense.

>>153126001
fpbp

>>153125979
This is unrelated

I feel bad for Asuka because she got fucked out of her character growth that was touched on in episode 25 and her snapping out of depression is negated by the monstrosities of the mass produced Evas. I don't feel right to critique her as an unfinished character that was so close to a turning point but got fucked over by Gianax budget

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>>153132362
he said a few months ago that he hopes other people will pick up where he leaves off and create new stories set in the Eva universe. literally said he wants Eva to become a series like Gundam, with tons of offshoots

in other words, he is creatively bankrupt but doesnt want his cash cow to stop producing, so he wants someone (anyone) to continue the franchise so he can collect royalties and continue to bitch about how little connection to the real world his fan base has. i really fucking hate this guy

>>153132766
*it had a lot of build up too with her mother flashbacks where she shut people out she ended up shutting out 02 and lost the will to live (like Shinji almost was at that point without every one else) and saw her zoomed in but never got to finish

>>153131692
I want to see Anno rekindle his passion and work on a completely new IP.

I know it wont happen but it would be very interesting to see what he can come up with today, in a world were grimdark adaptation and deconstruction are common place. He could even do a deconstruction deconstruction .

>>153126519
Gets rezzed in the end for bullshit reasons.

>>153133149
Shin Godzilla was great as a political drama.

>>153133592
Fucking Gold

>>153132362
So he's japanese george lucas basically.

>>153133941
No, because unlike Lucas Anno actually has good works to his name.

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>>153125979
>because death doesn't mean death.

>>153134196
Hey, it is a fanfiction.

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>>153134196
Is he... Is he fapping on her tomb ?

>>153134693
I was going to call you a dumb nigger but those tears in that last panel do kinda look like jizz

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>>153134718
He's holding the flower in his left hand.
Upper right panel, he hold something in his right hand.
Tears would never drop on the cross segment and flow this way.

No. NO

>>153134693
God FUCKING damnit anon.

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>>153134854
i am fucking aware

i'm just saying that i can understand how a retarded meme-addled faggot could get that impression

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>>153134693

>>153126001
FPBP

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>>153134983

>>153126309
>yeah. If Rei could survive a whatever explosion,
HHAHAHA

Asukafags confirmed for LITERAL RETARDS

Rei is best girl by the way

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>>153134971
I just managed to calm myself down. I never felt so disgusted in years

>>153134983
>>153135020
Jesus fucking christ he really has the face of someone who just fapped on the corpse of a former friend

>>153134196
>>153134983
>>153135020
This is fucking it, this the real end.

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>>153129983
Miyamura is absolutely based
Kawoshin is the only right way for 3.0+1.0 to end and will blow otaku culture out of the water with butthurt

>>153135129
I wouldn't be surprised if Gendo did that for Yui

Like father like son

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Kawoshin worst ship, shinji's straight

>>153134196
>>153135129
Jesus fucking Christ, now when I think back to the hospital I want to puke
I think it's a kind of a comparison, she was literally half-dead in the hospital, what Shinji did was awful

>>153136300
Why'd he even do it?
There was no build up for him to fap over asuka, he just stared at her knocked out and just jizzed on her.

>>153136714
A lot of pent up sexual frustration throughout the series, and then suddenly he finally sees Asuka's boobs.

Every teen would have done the same.

>>153136300
Severe PTSD + regular stress + teen hormones + live-hate relation ship= fapping to a half dead girl

>>153128286
Dude showed up like half an episode before, did some faggy shit and was clearly going to be an enemy. I'm glad I didn't waste the ten minutes on that still shot.

>>153137320
>Every teen would have done the same.

>>153135662
Considering how much butthurt amassed from 3.0, you may be on the right track.

>>153137779
It's one of the most iconic and memorable shots in the show, can you believe it?

>>153137812
>every nonfag

>>153135662
Reminder that 3.33 is the worst movie in Evangelion's movie history, having the lowest rating of all Evangelion movies.

Reminder that even after all these years, it didn't sell as much as 2.22 did in it's first week.

>>153137929
But it made more than 2.22 did in the long run.

>>153137812
He was driven to the edge of madness and desperation, then found himself standing in front of the naked body of the girl who he loved but had constantly pushed him away and backpedalled her own advances.

Only Shinji can know what he was thinking at that point, and while it was definitely pretty creepy I'd say it's whatever since he didn't even touch her and it helped him come to terms with himself

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>>153129983
>Asuka's voice actor ships Kaworu x Shinji
Evageeks BTFO?

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>>153137929
It was a masterpiece in how mad it made people

>>153138093
>But it made more than 2.22 did in the long run.
No, it didn't. Can't you read? Didn't make more than 2.22's first week sales.

Speaking of BD's DVD's.

>>153138274
It could only be considered a masterpiece if everyone was mad. A lot of people, particularly introverted and weird otaku are very happy with the Rebuild 3.33 movie.

It's just a poor flick.

>>153129983
Does anyone else think Tiffany Grant actually understands Asuka's character better than Miyamura? Miyamura just seems like a disinterested fujo in interviews while Grant gets super invested in the character and actually talks about her struggle and hatred while treating Asuka like her daughter.

>>153138279
Doesn't matter, made more in the long run.

>>153138327
Grant said she just wanted to get paid.

Miyamura was consulted directly about her role for years, no one understands Asuka more than her.

>>153138313
It made most people mad, that's enough for me.

>>153138405
Not a masterpiece, just a shitty flick. Sharknado also made people angry.

3.33 = Sharknado

>>153138461
It's shittiness makes it a masterpiece, don't you understand?

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>>153138224
see >>153130101

Misato and Rei's voice actors ship Kaworu x Shinji too.
It's contagious.

>>153138338
Not really, even in merchandise it's not 3.33-specific things that sell, it's character-specific and more often than not, related to original or pre-3.33 designs.

>>153138600
>Asuka wears a choker
Dick sucking black belt.

>>153138612
Yeah right.
Most Asuka merch nowadays is based on her 3.0 look, and it all sells like hotcakes.

>>153138600
>women likes faggots
wow.... who knew...

>>153138793
>women would rather have men fuck each other than them
Really fires up the neurons.

>>153138600
It doesn't make it canon, delusional fujo

>>153138186
This

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>>153138904
You're just mad no one ships your non-canon ship

>>153138967
I don't ship but at least Asuka x Shinji makes sense

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Asuka's sheer stunningness, her flawless features and melodic mouthpiece makes her a model maiden.

>>153139019
As much sense as white trash parents who beat each other in front of their kids.

>>153139019
But they don't love each other according to the staff or show, delusional neckbeard.

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>>153139037
Asuka is shit.

Rei is a pure white maiden, while Asuka is a red whore and a harlot.

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>>153139108

>>153130996
Maybe she is older than fucking 13 in that.

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>>153139108
So much hatred in your heart, you don't need to be governed by hate, love is much better. Asuka's gentle grip can calm you down.

>>153139096
Despite the show making it quite clear they're supposed to be the main couple and the heart of the story?
>inb4 pasta from some seiyuus

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>>153139300
What a lovely girl.

>>153139096
Kawoshin is pure garbage fujo pandering, Shinji shows more interest in Asuka's breasts than the faggy angel

>>153139019
I also kinda like that pairing, since it makes sense from all the frustration and need to connect that was building up in the series, but most people in Japan prefer kawoshin since Anno wrote it like a romance out of bishonen prince light novel. If you talk to Japanese people who like it/ship it the thing is they don't like Asuka. They are even more into Rei, because both Rei and Kawoshin go well with usual Japanese xenophobic politeness. Asuka is literally a foreign object, a loud gaijin who changes series' tone. Japs traditionally dislike loud people and gaijins, especially such a hard person as Asuka. In a society of polite shut-ins the most preferred romance is a quiet fairy-tale with silver haired protagonists.

>>153139430
Here's the thing. Kaworu is a shitty character. Evangelion is not a shitty story.

The pandering to ASuka and Kaworu fans have destroyed the characters and setting of Evangelion, we've come so far that the franchise is deliberately trying to ruin itself and it's characters to focus with pinpoint accuracy on otaku pandering.

All the otaku hatred has been let loose within Evangelion, and Rei is a prime target because she was the most popular and that made every eva otaku hate her out of envy.

>>153139581
I understand your frustration, reifag, but the thing is, you should just forget about rebuild and manga, I don't like them either, even though Asuka is my favorite character, I don't think they did well with her portrayal in both. Rei was a good character in the original, so stick to it and forget about the snitfest that is rebuild. Sometimes it's okay to run away, so run away from it. It's shit

>>153139780
I'd rather stay and remind the fanbase of how cancerous it is.

>>153139251
She shows up half way through the show and is always on Kaji's dick, you can't be serious.

The main couple, if there was a couple, is Misato and Kaji.
And Shinji and Kaworu is supposed to be a parallel to that. Notice how similar they are.

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>>153139829
>its cancerous because other people dont have shit taste like me

haha

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>>153139342
More like he doesn't show interest in her at all unless she flaunts her breasts at him.

That's all she's good for. No one will ever love her for her.

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>>153139829
That's not healthy.

You have to move on from Eva or you'll never grow up.

Get out of this hellhole while you can.

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>>153140120
The main couple is actually Asuka and Kaji.

Misato can go sleep around with Hyuga.

>>153140120
No, Kaworu and Shinji are completely different from Misato and Kaji, you seem to not understand the nature of Misato's view on him. Kaworu and Shinji were all about inspiration and learning to love yourself rather than romance in its traditional sense as we see it with Kaji and Misato, it's confirmed by Anno, whose inspiration was Kunihiko Ikuhara, a person who also supposedly taught Anno to love himself by being accepting and caring, it's more of a homage to Freud and Jung. As for parallels between characters, the parallel of men/women relationships are presented with Kaji/Misato, Shinji/Asuka. The difference is that Kaji is trying and partially able to understand Misato, but Shinji can't understand Asuka and is unable to satisfy her need for other. Kaji reinforces this with talk about differences between men and womem. Women are really important in Eva, in fact, as Anno, said more important than Kaworu and Shinji, which was kind of a homage to Anno's own experience with Ikuhara.

>>153140161
It's just joung love

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>>153138904
>"they're just good friends!!"
:^)

>>153140279
is that documentary on video somewhere?

>>153140379
This, thanks

>>153139342
>"I LOVED HIM"

>>153140398
Your picture shows that kawoshin is nothing but garbage pandering, it exist only to pander to fujoshi it has nothing to do with the canon and most importantly Shinji wasn't gay and will never be.

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>>153140379
Everything you just said you learned from me telling you. You're half wrong:

Kaworu was explicitly designed to be a way for Shinji to experience what it's like to lose the one you love so he can understand Misato.

Kaji and Kaworu both act very similar for a reason, thus they must be taken away from their love interests abruptly as well.

Misato and Shinji are the most similar characters in the series. The show is mostly about the parallel between them, the two main characters. Everything from their relationships with their fathers to how they deal with people.

Misato and Shinji have to be strong and move on, but not forgetting the love they had for them.

>>153140458
So? He loved him as a friend, go back to tumblr crying over johnlock

>>153140503
I never implied he was gay
he's bi

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>>153140506
>>153140379

From the very first draft they made it obvious:

>RITSUKO: –––Shinji, have you ever fallen in love?
>SHINJI: Not yet…
>RITSUKO: In Misato's heart, Kaji was a physically a part of her. Now that he's gone, it's finally hit her. But, some times those painful feelings become so overwhelming, it becomes unbearable. And on those nights, sometimes [we {general}] need to rely on the power of alcohol just a bit.
A special train pulls into the platform.
>SHINJI: Will I understand that sort of thing better once I've fallen in love?
>RITSUKO: When you understand it, it means you've become an adult. –––Alright. The Fifth Child is here.
The special train pulls out of the station.
A young boy wearing a cute, navy sailor suit remains on the platform. (Nagisa Kaworu)
Kaworu stands in the heat haze.
He sparkles against the light of the setting sun, his hair the color of honey.
Shinji is unconsciously bewitched by his divine beauty.
Shinji meets Kaworu's gaze. His heart pounds.


Read the drafts:
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Episode_24_Draft_1_(Translation)
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Resources:Episode_24_Draft_2_(Translation)

Shinji's first experience with love is with Kaworu. He doesn't fall in love with anyone else besides him.

Same with Misato and Kaji.

It is idealistic and shoujo-esque, because that's the type of romance Anno likes.

>>153138675
>Most Asuka merch nowadays is based on her 3.0 look
The licence holder makes most merchandise based on the latest entry in the franchise, no fucking shit.

>>153140506
The delusion is strong with this one

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_Analysis:Shinji_and_Asuka's_Relationship This theory is far more accurate than any of your bullshit

>>153140592
Not true, there's still merch being made of Rei as she appeared in 2.0

Asukafags wants the 3.0 version

>>153140541
No, he's heterosexual.

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>>153140619
>evageeks shipping article

No thanks. I'll take the show and Anno's own words on the matter.

>>153140590
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

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>>153140590
>KAWORU: Well, I should be going.
>SHINJI: Good night.
>KAWORU: Good night––
>Kaworu's face slides toward Shinji's.
>Kaworu gives Shinji a kiss.
>Shinji doesn't refuse him, he notices how naturally he accepts it.
>Feeling strangely calm, he looks up at the ceiling light.

wtf I love Eva now

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>>153125979

>>153140680
The anime shows Shinji's straight

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>>153140590
>>153140712
No homo!

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>>153140751
It gets better.

>ASUKA: I'm sure that idiot is crying into his pillow about being spurned by the object of his affections.

>MISATO: Object of his affections…

>ASUKA: Yeah, it's the Fifth Child. (Standing up) >––Well, I guess I'll go try to cheer him up.

>INT. SHINJI'S ROOM
>The door opens and Asuka enters.
>Shinji is lying in bed, the cover pulled over his head.

>ASUKA: Shinji. I don't know what happened, but you can't lie around like this forever.

>Shinji doesn't respond.

>ASUKA: (Poking Shinji's cheek) Hey, Shinji, say something. Shin-chan.

>SHINJI: (Coldly pushing her hand away) Don't touch me with your filthy hands…

>ASUKA: –––

>SHINJI: Funny hearing this from you. You're the one who started that disgusting rumor. I don't want to see your face, get out.

>Asuka angrily storms out of the room.

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Only Angels call people "Lilin", what did Asuka mean by this?

>>153140590
The thing is, such a concept was abandoned and rewritten completely, there's no implication that Shinji understands Misato. In fact, during their talk on the lake, it's shown otherwise, that Shinji has shut himself in his own frustration and Misato tries to address the incident from her point of view.

>>153140933
She loves Kaworu

>>153140933
The pilots aren't human anymore. Asuka probably due to contamination and curse of Eva and Shinji is something else, some twisted fucking psychopath. Rebuild is shit anyway.

>>153140969
Misato's words to Shinji at the lake are her projecting about Kaji.

You seriously didn't realize that?

They don't have to understand each other, the point is that they're very similar. They are the two main characters after all. It's about them and their story first and foremost.

The same major pivitol themes have been present since the very beginning, only enacted in different situations.

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>>153140933
She became the Ultimate Girl. A girl to surpass all others, and metal gear.

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>>153140969
You're wrong and you misunderstood Eva.
From the very beginning this was Anno's vision for the show.

It was a show about Misato and Shinji; they are the parallel here. Kaji and Kaworu are just the love interest part of their parallel.

>Anno: This is roughly the world-view for Neon Genesis Evangelion. This is a world-view drenched in a vision of pessimism. A world-view where the story starts only after any traces of optimism have been removed.

>And in that world, a 14-year-old boy shrinks from human contact. And he tries to live in a closed world where his behavior dooms him, and he has abandoned the attempt to understand himself. A cowardly young man who feels that his father has abandoned him, and so he has convinced himself that he is a completely unnecessary person, so much so that he cannot even commit suicide.

>And there is a 29-year-old woman who lives life so lightly as to barely allow the possibility of a human touch. She protects herself by having surface level relationships, and running away.
Both are extremely afraid of being hurt. Both are unsuitable-lacking the positive attitude-for what people call heroes of an adventure. But in any case, they are the heroes of this story.

So I just finished watching NGE and EoE last night so I'm probably going to check out rebuild soon.

Does Shinji and Kaworu actually become a thing or is that just something you people throw around? He still gets killed right?

>>153141181
Kill yourself delusional kaworufag, Shinji was never gay for Kaworu

Asukafags are the most shallow people in this fanbase, all I care about is shipping and image dumping.

At these the fujos post quotes and interviews, but they're still cancer too.

>>153141232
They weren't even gay for eachother don't bother

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>>153141232
The love interests of the series: Yui, Kaji, and Kaworu all get killed.
It's thematically important they do.

Rebuild is a different story and it's shit so don't bother.

I really felt miserable for Misato when Kaji was killed.

>>153141232
it's only made 100% explicit in video games and other merchandise, he has as little screentime in the rebuilds as the original series

>>153141266
Fujos never understood Shinji nor eva

>>153141300
Same, no one comforted her.

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>>153141327
You can't get more explicit than a love confession.

Good thing they killed him off before it turned into a full blown yaoi.

>>153141327
That's why it's just pandering and contributes nothing to actual canon, you can live in your gay delusions or just watch the show with open eyes

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>>153141266
Asukafags don't like Eva, the more you know.

Choose Rei.

>>153141260
I agree except that he was and it's canon

>>153140590
I thought Japan was homophobic, how did they get away with this shit?

>>153141266
Stop falseflagging, fujo

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>>153141456
90s Anime were pretty gay.
See Sailor Moon, CCS, etc.

And you can argue Anno is just a degenerate who is into that stuff.

>>153141434
Then you should just kill yourself

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>>153141520
You can (not) be more triggered.

Is this your first omnipandering Anime, autismo?

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Shinji is canonically heterosexual and in love with Asuka
Let's analyse this scene:
>Shinji realises someone's on the bed
>he looks up and sees Asuka, blushes furiously amazed by her beauty,
>his SDAT plays the song fast, implying Shinji's heart is racing right now
>he decides to kiss her, his pupils are big, sparkly, reflecting Asuka's face
Unfortunately Asuka turns him off, but this scene shows Shinji's genuine romantic and sexual attraction to her
Kaworufags BTFO

>>153141022
>curse of Eva
This was probably the most dismissive hand wave I've ever seen. It was thrown out of nothing and never mentioned again.

And people praise Anno for what reason again?

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>>153141507
>B: Is Anno-san into that stuff? He even accepted the interview with JUNE.
>M: That interview in which he pushes all responsibility to Satsukawa is interesting. But when we came up with the original idea, did it start out as such?
>H: eh?
>M: Not that level of homo, did Satsukawa up it?
>H: His descriptions are def top-notch.
>M: In JUNE it shows that the scripts originally had skinny dipping, musical duets and stuff (laughs)
>A: Skinny dipping?!
>M: Yeah, completely naked. I didn’t want to draw that, like to a “If thats how it is I’ll quit” extent.
>A: Isn’t that basically porn?
>M: So when I stated we must change it, it became Anno’s expert bathing.
>A: His favourite public baths.
>H: Why hand-holding though?
>M: Because thats what the script said.

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>>153141610
Pay attention next time.

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>being so dumb that you don't get a cartoon for teenagers

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This guy going apeshit about Shinji being bisexual is hilarious.

I still hope final makes us all rage though. Don't let me down Anno, destroy this bleeding cow for good.

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>>153141586
kek how are you so terrified that a fictional 14-year-old boy may be bisexual?

>>153141709
He just isn't, not enough evidence from the show

>>153141650
I thought they flipped out since the plug gets drawn towards the Eva's core, and too close a proximity will cause you to be absorbed, like Yui. Not getting inflicted by some anti aging shit.

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>>153141709
He's a closet case.

>>153141767
The Curse of Eva can be whatever you want it to be, anon

>>153141709
>may be
That's the problem with you people. A hint of "may be" is enough to make you jump to baseless conclusions, grossly disrespect the canon and its characters, all the while ignoring the facts at hand.
>>153141785
Pure fujo conjecture. It's sick. Everything is explicit to them.

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>>153141941
lol take a chill pill dude
I think you may have some unresolved tensions pertaining to your sexuality

>>153141980
>lol
Fuck off.

>>153141941
The only anon who gets it

>>153141941
THIS

It's women posters who can't understand anything without viewing it through the lens of sex. They can never be friends with a man, not really, so they view everything through that lens and incorrectly think that male friendships have a sexual dynamic.

happens with sherlock holmes too. Watson and Holmes just like solving mysteries and shit cause it's fun.

>>153142471
romantic attraction =/= sexual attraction

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>>153142559
yeah no you're a big baka you dumb dumb dummkopf

>>153142559
Delusion at it's finest, just accept the fact that Shinji is heterosexual and never was intended otherwise

>>153142559
Go back to tumblr

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I can't believe fujos are this delusional

>>153142609
Shinji is look-at-me sexual. He just wants attention and pity and doesn't care who it's coming from. It's also very one-sided, as long as he is pleased (and praised) he doesn't care about pleasing his audience.

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I like Asuka and realize she's the main girl of the series, and the one ending up with Shinji, but why can't people accept that Shinji got gay for Kaworu ? I mean it's undeniable, and that fact doesn't make the other disappear, they both coexist and are part of the story and Shinji's experience and personnality

>>153142893
thats not how being gay works

>>153142893
Only fujos believe that

>>153142948
>what are bisexuals
how do folks keep forget bi people exist?

>>153143061
>mental illness

>>153143061
Cause true bisexuals are as common as ligers unless you move in certain circles.

>>153143061
>why don't people accept he's gay?
>prove he's not gay
>I obviously meant bisexual, retard!

You see, at this point, it's not about the evidence, you just have some deep seated desire to brand his sexuality, for unknown reasons.

>>153142948
Gay people can have kids and wifes, and men used to fuck young boys all day in the antiquity. Sexuality is not something so simple

>>153143194
no it really is

I can look at pictures of naked men and get no erections. I even had a bet with a gay guy once, cause he was convinced he could give me an erection. I let him go for it. Couldn't be done.

>>153141650
Son, are you retarded? The point is that they're STILL FOURTEEN. HOW FUCKING CONVENIENT FOR A MARKET THAT DESIRES YOUNG NUBILE CHILDREN TO USE AS SEX FANTASIES.

NO COINCIDENCE AT ALL.

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>>153143357
>gay sex doesn't make you gay

>>153143357
Yeah, right, and your case is valid for every men. I don't argue with the fact that true heterosexuals exist, but young perturbated teenagers such as Shinji getting lost in their sexuality and getting attracted by people of the same sex happen too

>>153143483
nope, you can't change your sexuality, that's set in stone. If you could change what you were attracted to, pedophiles wouldn't even exist.

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>>153128431
he should promote marriage and higher birthrate with pic related posters.

>>153143523
Maybe you can't change your own sexuality, but you can be wrong about it. To go back to my previous example, it was frequent for gays to get married and have children because they repressed their own sexuality for social or cultural reasons.
And once again, Shinji is a stupid 14 years old virgin, he knows shit about himself and his sexuality

>>153130062
yeah that short was really weird

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>>153138186
>helped him "come" to terms