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Has he really become a menace to the universe with his battle lust?
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Honestly. Yes. He's even getting cocky against Beerus.
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>>153118213
>he was right all along
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>>153118403
FRIEZA DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>153118213
>the universe
>singular

Anon...
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next character posted is gonna give u teh succ
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Reminder Goku is merely pretending or his head trauma is wearing off
>>>153118138
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I must stop you dad.
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>Goku wanting to fight Vegeta and potentially risk reviving Majin Buu that he would go as far as to kill an innocent Supreme Kai
>Beerus threatens to erase Goku from existence due to Goku risking the universe's destruction over his own boredom

Like pottery.
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>>153118442
He invented powerlevels
That's a terrible crime
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Anybody else still annoyed that King Kai knows IT, yet didn't use it on Goku to get him to Earth?
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>>153118213
He doesn't attack others unless provoked or others are harmed/in danger so no. I'm genuinely confused about how they came around to this line of justification.
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>>153118213
Why has Bulma been giving me boners for 20 years?
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>>153118804
Oh yeah, if he'd done that it would have killed Beerus huh

Same pose and everything
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>>153118442
He didn't kill Goku when he overpowered him before Goku tried to do the Spirit Bomb, so that's one thing wrong
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>yfw when the tournament is interrupted by a new enemy that isn't affected by Zeno for some unknown reason
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>>153118834
Pretty sure you can blame Raditz for that.
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>>153118804
And then people will say that he was saving the people. But we all know it was Kakarot wanting to engage another Saiyan in combat
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>>153118213
I hope Ayy Lmao puts a stop to him.
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>>153118855
She's a boner loaner and you haven't paid it off yet
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>>153118842
Go to the archive and read the other threads
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>>153118708
Kakarot is the saiyan part of Goku that's always itching for fights no matter the cost or the risks.
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>>153118842
He's being naive about Zen Chan's power even though he saw for himself what he can do. And now that we know the consequence for losing a tournament, Goku just screwed over 11 universes save for his due to the plot armor of EoZ.
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>>153118894
I mean from an in-universe perspective. Freeza created the scouters and system by which they measure power, I assume.
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>>153118213
hes the next god of destruction
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>>153118834
>series steps away from power levels
>still kind of implies power levels by giving forms power multipliers

what was the point
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>>153118901
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG
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>>153118953
Goku has dual personality disorder
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Why should Goku care about other universes
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>>153118213
Looks like that injury he took from falling off and hitting his head causing amnesia really does seem to wear off as he recovers from it, this could mean he's slowly revealing his true nature
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>>153118980
How well Tien and Krillin do in this next tournament will go a long way to answering how relevant power levels really are.
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>>153118894
Even before Raditz there was a line from Goku about how he could just fucking sense that Tien was weaker than him in the piccolo budokai
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>>153118985
That's not smug, Goku looks straight up sinister like Black.
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>>153118804
>People think Goku is a hero instead of a guy obsessed with fight

Tell me, aside from Goku giving those SJW speeches to Frieza, when did Goku just do shit for the greater good?

The only reason he fought off villains because they threatened to destroy his home and it was a fun challenge for him.
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>>153119026
Why should we care about Africa
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12279065/
For those who care
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>>153118878
Unless the Grand Priest starts a fight between the two Zenos on purpose
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>>153118953
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if Goku remembered his true personality completely.

>>153118985
Looks like a pretty sinister Super Saiyan form, if you ask me.
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>>153118918
How much longer will this go on for?
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>>153119096
Grand Priest was said to be one of the 5 strongest fighters in all universes, but I think he was never confirmed as the strongest.
I think one of them must be the Dragon God Zalama, the other three are everybody's guess.
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>>153119096
>people think they're completely identical
>last episode one of them raised the wrong hand and corrected himself
They're gonna get in an argument 100%
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Ok lads here is the big question
Who created the omni king?
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>Goku saw how powerful Zamasu was by being evil
>Goku saw how powerful Trunks became by accepting that he's a sinner
>Goku has now become the FV to obtain the pinnacle of saiyan power
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>>153118403
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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>>153119190
He did.
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>>153119190
Shh we're arguing about Goku and his mental health
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>>153119190
Obviously Toriyama
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>>153119090
>>153119164

Some timeskip bullshit in the sequel spinoff implies Edgelord Jr. killed Naruto.
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I want to see Vegeta and Piccolo tag-team Eviler Goku.
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>>153119042
Will it, though? I mean Botamo and Hit were in the same category of "strongest fighter from our universe".

People could probably justify it as "Oh, that guy wasn't SS Blue tier" or something. Unless Krillin beats someone who beats Goku or Vegeta, in which case they'll probably call bullshit or try to argue that they were tired.
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>>153119252
end your life
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>>153119190
the grand priest
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>>153119108
I told you people
Super Saiyan Devil is afoot
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>>153119190
Akira
not even kidding, he's an actual character
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>>153118213
Yes, but to be fair, it was less his battle-lust and more his willingness to treat Zeno as his buddy as opposed to, you know, the insanely dangerous god that he is.

If Goku had known Zeno was going to make that rule, he probably would have kept his mouth shut no matter how fight happy he is.
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>>153119169
Forever
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>>153119209
Goku said during the Frieza fight that he will never harden his heart to get stronger.
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>>153119252
Wow, this really went to shit.
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>>153119190
Zalama.
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>>153119174
A scenario for a new arc where there is a war between Present Zeno and Future Zeno could happen.
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Is park ranger-kun going to be relevant this arc?

I don't think he was brought back after being absent for a long time, only to get rekt in his first combat. He also has a couple of moments in the new opening.

The only problem is that he will need a random powerup, but i don't think it's too far fetched that he and the rest of the team will receive some kind of boost from Whis.
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>>153119292
I'm fine with that. Cumming to the thought of Bulma feels good.
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>mfw they show a dream scene where Goku is fighting/talking with Kakarot similar to how Guts struggles with his inner demon or how Naruto deals with the nine tails
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>>153119252
>Believing the hook
Anon, please.

Don't tell me you are the sort that thinks Koji Kabuto dies in magma?
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>>153119347
what if Bulma upgrades the androids
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>>153119347
He's gonna fucking die I guarantee it
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So why the fuck is Android 17 back? Wasn't he killed along with Cell?

Cell was till Semi-Perfect when he exploded, so 17 was still in him.
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>inb4 we get a scene with kinto un and goku can't ride it anymore
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>>153119093
While I wouldn't say the Kakarot reborn stuff is completely true, I do hope Goku's character is brought into question by the other characters considering all the lives he's putting at risk.

In this arc, I want Goku to have some sort of self reflection on what he's done and gain some kind of character development from it. He can't just be a retarded manchild forever, always forgetting things.
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>>153119405
When they wished for all the people Cell killed to return, 17 came back to life.
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>>153119405
He was shown in the Buu saga giving energy for the spirit bomb if you forget about that
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>>153119347
they are advertising 18 and 17 a lot so maybe
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>>153119405
Dragon balls at the same time 18 came back
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>>153119252
>that haircut
>the tattoos

oh lord
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>>153119252
Still don't get how this could happen. Both Naruto and Sasuke could have easily soloed the whole universe.
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>>153119430
I think it will hit him like a ton of bricks how many people he's put in danger

All this "evil goku" stuff will only last until Piccolo calls him the fuck out like he did with Gohan/Cell and he realizes just how bad he screwed up.

Goku isn't malicious, he's just reckless.
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>>153119430
>retarded manchild
I'm starting to beilive he's pretending
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>>153119252
This is basically AF at this point.
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>>153119491
>Both Naruto and Sasuke could have easily soloed the whole universe.

They're barely above moon-busting tier.

Overall they're around the same level as Nappa.
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>>153118752
I like this idea
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Gohan will pose a mathematical paradox to both Zenos that's so complex they'll have to argue about it for 1,000 years, buying peace for a time
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If Chichi values money so much why haven't they made a wish on Shenlong/Porunga?
As Piccolo said Goku have saved the world enough times already, he deserve at least money for a retirement and do whatever he wants.

Chichi was pretty chill when they had Ox-King's money, Goku could train to his hearth content and Gohan could play too and not just study 24/7.

At this point Gohan already fullfilled her dream of having a kid with good education that can earn good money but there's no need for Goten to carry that burden too, with infinite money he could do whatever he wanted, no matter is the job is good paid or not and of course Goku would be free too to train too.
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>>153119533
Pretty sure he meant anyone in the verse of Naruto
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>>153119587
Yeah it will be 7*8. They're fucking kids
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I'm liking more and more the theory of goku is becoming kakarot/evil/more saiyan because of how detached of reality he has become.

>He barely spent any time with his kids anymore (he played and spent time with gohan when he was young), and if he does is because he was forced to stay at home.
>His wife is more like a "friend" at this point, no romantical feelings involved or anything, goku doesn't even know what a kiss is or why should he stay with his wife if she is going to give birth (he was at the birth of gohan).
>Before, goku genuinely felt regret of his actions that triggered the bad guys (frieza came to earth because of namek, androids were created as revenge for the red patrol, buu revived because he fought vegeta). But now he literally doesn't care, he basically is always disrespecting beerus, a being stronger than him that could destroy earth, he keep making contact with zeno, who is moody and could destroy the whole universe if pissed.
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>>153118752
>Neither Goku or Gohan are training with the Supreme Kai
>Yet, they train with weaklings who their teachers specifically said they already surpassed their teachings

Why? I'm pretty sure this smug bastard had some more tricks up his sleeve.
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>>153119617
I think it's less about money and more that she wants Goku to appear as a respectable normal person.

He never will be and she's wasting her time, but whatever.

>>153119654
Kids who play chess with planets. Zeno is naive not unintelligent.
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>>153119617
I think Chichi is holding out hope that having a job will mature Goku.
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>>153119617
Because in her mind in order to be successful man one has to be working a respected job. money isn't the issue here, its some form of honor.
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Why is Goku beating up puppies?
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>>153119587
"Shenlong is 100 meters long plus half its size"
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>>153119698
>yfw Gohan fuses with Shin.
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Will goten become relevant?
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>>153119587
They would both come to the same answer.
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>>153119715
It's weird though, it's like marrying a professional MMA fighter and bitching that he's not the manager of Target.
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Goten almost did a thing before Trunks decided to remind him he is fusion fodder.
I just want to see more of him.
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Alright guys, here's a quick rundown on the Grand Priest

>Zeno's bow to Daishinkan
>In contact with Gods of Destruction
>Possess top 5 battle power
>Controls the multiverse with an iron but fair fist
>Owns Zamasu's no ningen cabins and Frost's banks
>Direct descendants of the ancient godly blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities in Universe 13 (Daishingrad will be be the first city)
>Owns 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Daishinkan angels
>Daishinkan and his children all said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Martial Arts Schools & Red Ribbon Headquarters
>Ancient Namekian scriptures tell of 13 angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented godly ki powerups with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the multiverse
>You likely have Daishinbots inside you right now
>Daishinkan is in regular communication with Dragon God Zarama, forwarding the word of the God to the Supreme Kais and Gods of Destruction. Who do you think set up the meeting between Shin & Beerus (First meeting between the two Gods in over 1000 years) and arranged the Supreme Kai's first trip to Beerus' planet in history literally a few days later to the Daishinoff bunker in a future timeline?
>he learned fluent Namekian in under a week
>Nation worlds entrust their gold reserves with him. There's no gold at Capsule Corp, only Ft. Dai
>he is about 7 trillion decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent being.
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>>153119296
Goku also said to Whis/Beerus that he wouldn't team up with Vegeta because he likes to fight alone, then fuses into Vegetto against Zamasu. What's your point?
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>>153119741
Poor dog, he really didn't deserve to be Goku's opponent, I mean fuck, Goku is just shitting on him on base.
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>>153119741
Goku hates furries
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>>153119771
Not necessarily. They're not identical. One raised the wrong hand and corrected himself. that's called foreshadowing
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>>153119715
Basically this.

The important thing to remember is that Chichi is a parody of an overbearing wife/mother.

This is the woman that dislikes SSJ because it changes the user's hair color, and in her mind dyed blond hair equals delinquent.
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>>153119074
He is just happy to fight strong opponent.
You millennials were brainwashed too much with faggy MCs like Kirito and now confusing having balls with being evil.
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>>153119774
I think she had something else in mind for her sons and then she lost a her mind when Goku kept dying and coming back. I don't think she handled the Goku's wild ride very well.
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>>153119789
They were very desperate in that situation. It was either they fuse or they all die.
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>>153119741
>Goku beating the shit out of a furry
>furry fanbase responds with a ton of art of Goku getting knotted by this guy
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>>153119389
Death has no longer an impact in DB. He already died once and was brough to life with the dragon balls just like everyone else, even two or three times like Krillin's case.
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>>153119752
Nah, he becomes a normie.

>Timeskip to Goten as a teenager, finding each how much a nerd his big brother is and how much of a fight-obsessed Dad he has
>"Fuck it, i'll just get a girlfriend."
>Hence GT Goten
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>>153119671
Bardock(Yes I'm using Bardock as evidence) didn't back down from Frieza despite knowing the power gap and what did we see Saturday? Base Goku staring at Beerus who could fire off a Hakai quicker than the time it would take Goku to go SSB. Saiyans know no fear and he's just gonna test his luck more until Goku gets whacked on the head again. If the whole "Goku going full Saiyan" thing happens I hope people don't get angry, I mean how long did they think it was going to last? Injuries heal.
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>>153119617
It's not that she values money, she wants Goten to be self sufficient, get a proper education and not to turn into a fight crazy manchild like Goku, just like Gohan. All parents want their kids to be be tetter off. Also to be honest mooching off those around you is not a good trait. The way goku is turning out what with putting all the universes in danger just because he wants a fight, she's kinda got a point. Another Goku wouldn't be a good thing.
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>>153119752
Goten is just there to be best boy.

>likes fighting
>is also getting raised to be a scholar
>polite and well-versed in social etiquette

He's /our guy/, Anon.

Too bad he gets less screentime than Bakura.
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>>153119876
But if U6 gets taken out of the tournament they lose the Super Dragon balls
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>>153119867
I wish.
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>>153119902
...so?
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>>153119877
Goten is going marry Marron!
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>>153119901
That's fine. More screentime would surely ruin him.
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>>153118886
>someone from one of the universes he previously destroyed survived and got super special void powers because fuck you.
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>>153119845
>your husband died and your 4 year old son has been abducted by a slug monster
>you can see him again in a year when the friends of the guy who killed your husband come to murder us all
>maybe

I think she handled it remarkably well actually
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>>153119809
But that dog is fluffy and cute.
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>>153119920
Remember, Super Dragon Balls are divided in both U6 and U7, if U6 is destroyed, 3 or 4 of them will be gone.
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>>153119867
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>>153119920
So what are they going to use to wish back 17? He already came back once with the earth ones
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>>153119876
I wonder if the Super Dragon Balls can bring back someone destroyed by Beerus's HAKAI.
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>>153119921
Marron will follow her mom's footsteps and marry a manlet (like Pilaf maybe).
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>>153119840
There's a difference between Ippo and Sendo dude
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>>153119867
Is that what happened to all the furries in their earth? Did Goku exterminate them?
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>>153119752

I wish they develop Goten more. His current characterization in super is pretty good.

>interested in training
>not a retard like his dad
>not a big fag like his brother
>actually knows shit

Too bad he becomes a good for nothing waste of potential in the last chapter of the manga.
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>>153119921
>Not marrying Bra
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>>153120008
Did you forget Goku's brother is a furry?
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>>153119987
It be fucking dumb if they put limits on them
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Why is it that the internet is collectively freaking out about Goku when he's always done this in the past? I mean for fucks sake, he called himself selfish when he spared Vegeta.
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>>153119954
She's had a hard life.
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>>153119093
Wtf is this
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>>153120014
Would that make a full Saiyan?
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>>153119921
It's already confirmed he will be with Bra. He will fulfill the Goku and Bulma shipping.
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can we even comprehend the number of lives goku is responsible for killing in 11 whole umiverse?
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>>153119967
i'm aware...so?
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>>153120014
Bra has her eyes set on someone worth while. Pan.
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>>153120086
Trillions

at least
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>>153120079
where was that confirmed?
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>>153120008
>Goku eliminated all of the furries in his universe
>starts up the universe tournament to eliminate all of the other ones in existence
>removed his and his son's tails as a rejection of their furry form

Really makes you think.
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>>153120077
3/4ths, at best.

>>153120097
Three way? Some incest going on.
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>>153120086
None that matters.
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>>153120042
Because sparring Vegeta saved everyone in the Namak saga, starting this shit show will kill universes.
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>Vegeta's short genes, yet taller than Marron and Pan
>Hit on by guys with driver's licenses
>Being the youngest canonically

How did Toei fuck this up so bad?
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>>153120042
Because this time the scale is so much bigger

Risking Earth vs. Risking 11/12ths of existence
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>>153120122
Never. It's just his wishful thinking.
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So we know goku was a shit dad but of the two who was the better parent for Gohan chichi or piccolo
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>>153120086
>>153120141
Goku blew up Future Trunks universe and he didn't give a fuck then either.

No universe past or present is safe.
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>>153120042
Because he never almost got eleven universes killed after being explicitly told "This will endanger the entire universe".

Even with Buu, he never expected things to escalate beyond Buu blowing up a few cities.
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>>153119876
Wasn't Krillin brought back to life twice (deaths by Tambourine and Buu) with the dragon balls from earth and once with the Namek ones after being killed by Freeza?
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>>153120129
>>153120136
Let us say Bra and Pan fuse and have sex with Gotenks. Their fusion is impregnated with Gotenks's seed.
After the fusion ends what will happen?
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>>153120171
Piccolo
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>>153120182
That explains why Future Trunks didn't want to start in the present. He wants to be as far away as possible from Goku.
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>>153120155
Fantasy that he can jack off to?
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>>153120155
Marron had Krillian's short genes and Pan was a late bloomer.
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>>153120155
In Toei's defense, Toriyama drawn Bra to be abnormally tall for 4 year old.
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>>153120155
Reminder that she's 8 years old in GT.
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>>153120155
>hits on guys with driver's licenses

>member of a hedonistic race
>has a mother who flashed her vag to people in her youth

I mean it's not a mystery.
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CAN'T
GET
NO
SATISFACTION
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>>153120232
He got lucky staying away from Goku in another timeline, that also includes having Mai along with him
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>>153119742
Thats just 200 meters
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>>153120155
Fusion with Pan when?
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>>153120217
I have no goddamn idea honestly
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>>153120287
Papa was a Rolling Stone.
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>>153120298
Bran is a qt
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>>153120287
>leave 11 whole universes to me
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>>153120155
She's 8-9 years old in GT, and Pan is 9-10.
I have no idea what Toriyama was smoking when he did GT's designs. I would have liked to see Bra be more relevant. She, Pan, and Oob were the big three new characters at the end of the manga, why not have GT focus on them? You could copy Namek again with Pan as Gohan, Oob as Kuririn, and Bra as Bulma, but make it an intergalactic adventure where they deal with enemies for the first time.
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>>153120217
So it's a brother/sister/niece/uncle incest thing?
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>>153120217
Well, first the seed would need to stay in their body for at least a few days to get pregnant, so let's say for the sake of argument they're fused for a week and become pregnant. Once they refuse, I would say that the embryo would die because it's being separated to two bodies.
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>>153120217
They get stuck in fusion form until they have the kid.
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>>153120298
They look cuter together rather than separately.
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>>153120155
Why does Vegeta let his daughter dress like a slut?
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>>153120217
Either one girl will end up preggers with the baby or it will be identical twins with each one being incubated by a different mother.
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>>153120287
When I'm drivin' in my car, and the man come on the radio
He's tellin' me more and more about some useless information
Supposed to fire my imagination
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>>153119985
>>153120206
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>>153120031
Konkichi simply became a teacher, which made him real smarts and shit being a fox and all, then he created some kindof time and space distortion device that caused him to develop god like powers but flung him into another universe and changed his colors and made him grow a second tail.

After he grew up he was elected to become a god of destruction. Goku's little brother grew up faster than he did,
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How would Goku have known he was putting everyone in danger?

He just wanted a tournament with strong fighters
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>>153120336
He fucked up those designs on purpose because he knew GT was going to be shit.
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>>153120155
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hUWsnSHozQ
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>>153120336
>She's 8-9 years old in GT
Well I'm officially ashamed of myself
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>>153120336
Don't forget Marron. Appearantly she wants to fight also.
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>>153120217
Twins, except from different mothers.
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>>153120406
dude it's a fucking anime character. toriyama could come out and say she's 2, it doesn't mean you like toddlers you dumb fuck
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>>153120155
>>153120298
If we get a timeskip, can Bra not be a useless whore?
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>>153120391
Beerus and Whis told him it was a bad idea.
he refused to listen.
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>>153120391
Oh please Beerus made it very clear how dangerous it could be
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>>153120371
>>153120429
That actually sounds kinda cool
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>>153120451
DELETE THIS
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>>153120468
He even THREATENED Beerus with pressing the blue button to bring Zeno to them
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>>153120217
Ok, well. Let's assume that this was even possible, which I don't think a fusion can even get pregnant, but let's say it is.

It would be a toss up on which one of them would be carrying the baby. Goten and Trunks didn't have matching wounds when they defused after getting beat up by Buu, they had an even split.

The child would probably still be Brapan and Gotenks.

However, like I said, I don't think this would even be possible. Fusion is treated as it's own person that has JUST been born and only lasts for 30 minutes. I don't think you can induce ovulation that quickly.
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>>153120457
No, Bra didn't show any signs of being a fighter during End of Z.
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>>153120391
I don't see how Goku can go from "Man, I've gotten rusty at fighting." to "Better go immediately start up a tournament while I'm still rusty!"

Maybe spar with Vegeta for a bit first and get back into the swing of things? I know the tournament isn't starting the next day, but come on.
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>>153119840
There's a big difference between Joe smiling because he accepted his fate against Jose to Goku being smug because he knows everyone is going to die except him.
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>>153120457
Not being a fighter doesn't necessarily make her useless, maybe Toriyama can at least make her be good with tech like her mom.
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>>153120491
It's called mass production
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>>153120554
>"I am going to murder the SHIT out of these ningens."
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Do we have any lawschool fags here? Would a court be able to convict Goku of negligent homicide or something?

At LEAST reckless endangerment
billions of counts
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Why is everyone blaming Goku for placing the universe in danger when it's the Zenos' idea to destroy them? Goku had no idea what the stakes of the tournament would be. The last tournament was really low stakes, so there was no predicting this.
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>>153119867
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>>153118886
Lovecraftian horror which is older than the multiverse in the form of a Dragon Ball flying karate fighter.
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>>153120406
To be fair, don't Saiyans come to maturity faster, and then stop aging?
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>>153120554
He still has a bit of his SS crown going on in this pic. someone get a drawfag in here to draw goku with SS hairstyle but it's still black
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Since the universe is destroyed anyway, is it going to be a fight to the death?
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>>153120554
Would be quite funny to see Goku excited about the idea of seeing the other universes being destroyed because he is simply too strong to be defeated by the other opponents.
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>>153120629
I don't know, Goku was still a little guy when he was 14 then hit a sudden growth spurt
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do you think Zamasu is in goku body slowly manipulating him?
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>>153120591
>>153120554
>Goku is going to do Black/Zamasu's job for at least 11 universes
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>>153120655
No, Zamasu is dead as fuck.
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>>153120604
Though Goku was warned Zeno is very powerful, and very unpredictable.
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>>153120653
>14 then hit a sudden growth spurt
Oh good, Goten and Trunks still have potential
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>>153120603
Also, is it illegal to hire an assassin to kill YOURSELF?
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>Zeno destroys several universes
>Goku uses time travel/Super Dragon Balls to undo this
Problem solved.
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>>153118886
>implying it won't be the original Dragon God who created the Super Dragon Balls whose name I can't remember but that obnoxious faggot explained in that one episode around the U6vsU7 Tourney with Bulma and Jaco
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>Tfw Gohan is no longer cucked by the series and is joining the rest of the cast as a fighter
>Heck, even Tien and Android 17 are finally added to this Allstar Team
>No discussion on it whatsoever

Why?
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>>153120603
What Goku did was like trying to cause an avalanche because he wanted to film it, ignoring all the other people that could be hurt by it.
I'm pretty certain at least one justice system is bound to found him guilty.
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>>153120655
Nah it's Gokus Saiyan side
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>>153120560
This, she needs to be the next Bulma. Good with tech, always inventing, always upset that Trunks is wasting his smarts being a fucking player and fighting and can't wait to take over the family business.
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>>153120692
Yeah we know they don't stay short forever.

Goten even changes his hair and wears a shirt with his name on it so people will stop mistaking him for his dad
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>>153120724
Because that's Yamcha, not Gohan. Sorry Anon.
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>>153120706
Dragon balls don't work if U6 gets destroyed. Time travel will only make a new timeline in the past. It won't fix shit.
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>>153120747
>yamcha hair
Confirmed for trash.
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>>153120725
That's a good metaphor, he's guilty as fuck in that sense.
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>>153120695
Yes, it counts as suicide, which is illegal. Hit would also be brought up on murder charges, though they would probably let the assisted suicide charges go since he didn't know until later.
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>>153120695
Fraud
>Implying Goku can afford insurance
He's gettin away with that
>>153120724
You're late by about a month or less
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>>153120638
I hope so. If Goku is forced to kill, it may make him more evil.
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>>153120554
This is the same sort of cancer like brolyfags who insisted their joke character would be actual LSSJ from U6. Keep your retarded headcanons to yourselves please.
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>>153120724
People are too busy dealing with the shock of a childhood hero turning villain
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>>153119213
Technically, the broken clock received orders from Beerus, so It's actually a case of "Beerus was right from the start, and his biggest mistake was falling for the delicious bribes".
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>>153120770
Even Gohan rocked that look for a while, just a bit longer
the yamcha cut is cursed
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>>153120756
NO FUCK YOU HE IS GOHAN GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153120724
I'm extremely suprised Krillin and Roshi are on this roster to be honest. I'm assuming this means they'll be the ones to go out first.
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I really really like the swole alien
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>>153120814
>Shock
The word you're looking for is hype
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>>153120290
He can also get help from his other self if another enemy shows up.
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>>153120814
But he was never a hero. He was just a bored guy who loved to fight and was placed in heroic situations.
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>Goku goes full saiyan
>starts using 100% of power
>Beerus steps in when Goku starts picking fights with other GoD
>Goku OHKO Beerus
>Whis steps in
>goes toe-to-toe with Whis for like a minute before he snaps out of it

yes? no? go kill yourself shitty writefag?
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HEY REMEMBER WHEN GOKU GAVE CELL A SENZU BEAN?

This has been a long time coming. All Goku really cares about is fighting strong people. He doesn't care who gets in the way.
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>>153119889
Bardock was desperate and tried to stop Freezer. Goku in the other hand was being warned by Beerus and Whis to not create more problems
They are too different, according to Toriyama Bardock feel in love with Gine and understood the concept of family. Meanwhile Goku is an overconfident guy who just likes to fight.
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>>153120689
Isn't that like blaming a murder victim for walking in the streets at night. Yeah it was stupid, but Zeno is the one you should blame.
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>>153120860
no this is trash kys yourself etc etc etc
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>>153120839
Roshi is going to be matched up against a female for the obvious joke.
Krillin is getting his rematch with Tambourine.
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>>153120839
Roshi's a good guy to have around in a martial arts tournament for his experience and analysis at the very least. If somebody is using a tricky technique he might be able to figure it out.

Krillin is just the most solid guy they could get, even if his power is lacking. It's better than bringing Yamcha or Yajirobe.
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>>153118985
We're going to get Super Saiyan Crimson/Red, just fucking watch, I bet it's going to be red of some kind.

Fuck this gay ass new color of super saiyan every few months.
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>>153120860
Then it would create those shitty stories of
>"What did I do?"
>"I didn't mean to"
>"What's happening to me?"
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>>153120417
Let's not kid ourselves, Marron was never going to be useful. She received practically no characterization since she was introduced other than being a cheerful toddler (who should be around 10 at this point in Super, but we're not getting 14 year old Trunks and 13 year old Goten designs, despite the latter already existing). Everyone looks as old as they did 6 years ago, possibly even younger.

Maybe they could have done a thing where they made her like an older sister to Pan with a friendship similar to Goku's and Kuririn's. GT is a ton of wasted potential. Everyone loves Goku, but people do genuinely love early Namek when he isn't present. It really gave time for the other characters to shine. Trap Goku in another dimension or do something where he's unable to fight but still present in some way, and give him the occasional time to shine. Turn him into a robot or something to replace Giru. But Pan should have been the main character of GT and the successor to Goku/Gohan/Goten and had a much brighter personality. Bra should have been the next Bulma, fixing stuff on the spaceship and helping them locate the Black Star Dragon Balls with her inventions. Oob should have been given a chance to show off his training with Goku while seeing how vast the universe is. I could see him as being a naive yet polite young man still learning to use his strength and having vast reserves hidden deep inside.
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>>153119741
It's alternate reverse Yamcha, probably even has a Man Tooth Slap technique. Of course it's going to job.
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>>153120858
Exactly. People are finally seeing his true personality...
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>>153120860
Exclude the Whis part
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>>153120839
I don't get out of everyone, why Roshi?

Even Yadjirobe is technically stronger since he was on par with Goku after receiving Korin's training.
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>>153120136
It's technically possible, though unlikely, that their kid would be genetically pure saiyan.
Since there's millions of sperm per shot, and a 1 in 8 million chance it would be all saiyan genes, you're definitely got a chance every time of the male producing a 100% saiyan sperm.
The woman though, the odds are much smaller, as she only produces 2 million eggs in a lifetime, and more importantly, only one or two are exposed to fertilization at a time.
So it's possible she'd never produce a full saiyan egg, let alone produce it for the time she's conceived, where the male produces a few each time he ejaculates.
So at best, you're looking at one in 64 trillion.
Realistically, since other things factor, you're looking at something closer to one in a quadrillion.

Unless full saiyan sperm is stronger and faster than regular sperm, essentially ensuring that if any fertilizes the egg, it'd be the saiyan one, but even then, you're at that 64 trillion number.
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>>153120839
Krillin just got passed his PTSD and started training seriously again. 18 is watching so he can't disappoint her again like what happened with the bullet wound. It can't be all for nothing. Krillin needs a win.
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>>153120813
But Broly did became a thing in Super.
Toriyama hated the idea of Goku being portrayed as a hero so he made him act like a bigger selfish dude.

Blame Toriyama not me, prick.
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>>153120963
Do you honestly think Yajirobe would even say yes to the invitation?
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Reminder: Please don't be angry with Goku, it's just who he is as a Saiyan. It was never meant to last.
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>>153119108
The personality you see is his true personality. He was a toddler when he came to earth and was raised by a kind old man, and has lived his whole life the way he is now.

At this point there's no alternative personality.
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>>153120996
If the universe was in danger.
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Do you think we'll see some Angel V Angel this arc?

I'm DYING to see Whis actually have to try
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>>153120972
Someone is going to kill 17
Krillin will be their next opponent and defeat them

Powerlevelfags will have heart attacks
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>>153120604
He was warned of Zeno's power and nature in the episode. Did you not watch it? Even Beerus threatened to destroy goku because of it.
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this is a test
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>>153120831
kek
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>>153121033
Do they know that when they're gathering fighters, though? I don't think they find out the stakes until they get there.
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>>153120858
He was less selfish than he is now. He even tried to genuinely give mercy to Raditz and many other villains. He also cared for his best friend when he died. He had heroic traits that were mixed with his saiyan blood, but now his fightning lust is starting to take over more than ever.
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>>153121023
>The personality you see is his true personality
>forgets the whole destructive devil child until hitting his head on a rock thing that started the series.
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>>153120912
Rainbow hair isn't enough. Give the new power up wings. And have him start using twin swords.
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>>153120879
If you reminded the killer that he wanted to do it in the first place.
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>>153121057
Goku is retarded anons, he doesnt understand the concept of consequences that are not immediate. So if you threaten to shoot Goku until you actually shoot him he thinks nothing will happen.

>Zeno will kill us all
>Well he hasnt killed us yet so whats the matter?
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>>153120919
Probably, but it doesn't hurt to dream.
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>>153120860
>Goku OHKO Beerus

Fanfiction.
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>>153120963
It's Roshi after eating a pile of iridescent magic weed 3 times his size. Aint no one can stop him now, he's basically invincible.
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>>153120879
>zeno forgot the tournament
>goku brought back the idea
What the hell Toriyama.
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>>153121090
Hasn't happened yet. All we know is when the tournament is. The rules may become known when it actually starts.
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>>153120963
Nolstalgia maybe?

>>153120972
He needs a win, but it remains to be seen if he'll get one.
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>>153121112
>I know he destroyed the future universe, but I'm bored!
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>hurt by a bullet
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>>153121113
>there are no cute, powerful girls in Dragon Ball's main cast
>the girls that are there never fight

whyyy

At least Bulma is still great.
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>>153121123
>Roshi vs. Fem Broly
>what makes her hulk out is lewd comments
>he calls her a pichi-pichi gal
>she hulks out
>"I can do that too, young lady!"
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>>153121123
Why does Roshi want to live as an old man for eternity?
Why not him and Baba try to find some fountain of youth?
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Why can't we get any sense that Goten and Trunks are aging? Hell, at least have their hair grow a little.
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>>153121182
>hurt

He got scratched by it, if anything. Didn't even break skin.
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>>153120919
Marron is destined to become a jobless gold digger just like her mom.
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>>153121055
Maybe it'll be a Yu Yu Hakusho final tournament sort of thing. The strongest fighters get tired out and lose to lesser opponents that they'd normally never lose to. Krillin will defeat someone who was previously super saiyan blue equivalent because they are tired and/or seriously wounded.

He could have killed Vegeta.
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>>153121169
Goku is a fucking retard anon, what Zeno did is nothing but an afterthought to him, unless the threat is immediate then Goku wont comprehend why what he is doing is wrong.
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>>153121182
He's going to be beaten by somebody who shoots bullets, isn't he?
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>>153121188
I think Toriyama abhors the idea. We are lucky we are getting FemBroly and Egyption GoD
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>>153121182

he should have done that "tch" noise after getting shot

only villains do that, it could have been good forshadowing
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>>153121268
I think he's said a few times that he avoids it because drawing muscular women is difficult.

Most of the reason he got rid of Goku's tail was because the transformation screens made him have to ink too much for the night sky, and it was annoying to figure out how his tail worked poking out of his pants.
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>>153120154
Did Goku know that at the time? No. At the time, Vegeta was evil who could kill a shit load of people. Letting him live meant the destruction of a planet. Fuck, he killed namekians.

It's the same shit. He's going to indirectly be the cause of deaths for a selfish reason. He hasn't changed. Why is the internet now all of a sudden freaking out?
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>>153121188
Vados
Loli Angel
Twintails
Brolina
Cleopatra
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>>153121311
This is also why Namek had 3 suns and was conveniently always in daytime. Toriyama hates inking.
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>>153121237
This is why I hope he becomes evil, then he can admit that he never actually gave a shit and knew the risk, he just wanted to be the best like no one ever was/spoiler] .
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>>153121313
Goku spared Vegeta out of his naive moralfaggotry not because of his saiyan tard genes.
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>>153120182
Goku didn't do shit. Future Trunks universe was screwed regardless of Zeno or not. Zamasu was becoming the universe in his timeline.
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>>153121251
Pretty good.
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>>153121268
I'm looking forward to see how they handle femBroly.
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>>153120985
He was always selfish, never ill intended.
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>>153121346
Retards cant be evil anon, Goku causes mass destruction because he has no idea what going on.

Also Goku is a fighting junkie not a bloodthirsty savage like his dad.
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I want Full Saiyan Goku so Vegeta can see how big the power gap ACTUALLY is
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why are the women in dragonball always the dominate ones in the relationship
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I just finished watching EP77, was there some sort of darker filter or shading/coloring going on?
Something seemed different.
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>>153121354
>Zamasu was becoming the universe in his timeline.
I wonder if, in that moment, he was euphoric
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>>153121188
>>153121268
>>153121311

It's because it's a shonen. Shonens protagonists usually have males be significantly stronger than females and the actual strong females are just side characters.

Female focused Shonen(Fairy Tail, Akame ga Kiru, Soul Eater, etc.) are usually terribly written.
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>>153121319
A number of those are angels, and I don't think any of them have fought.

Also "main cast".
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>>153121199
>Reminder that if Vegeta and Future Trunks knew about Roshi's transformation, Vegeta would never have let Trunks live False SSJ2 down.
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>>153121414

this pic is missing Krillins giant boner
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>>153121093
Explain Piccolo and Vegeta. They specifically told Goku that those two guys were assholes who would kill people if left alive. Goku didn't care because he wanted to fight them.

Literally the same shit.
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>>153120155
Multiple reasons
A) they only asked for timeskip versions, but didn't specify how long. Toriyamas note say "several years" which, for him, can be anything.
His dragon ball timeskips got longer every time (almost) 3, 4, 1, 3, 6, 10.
So it's easy to guess that he was thinking closer to 7 year skip than 5.
B) he never specified when bra was birn, and likely never thought about it until super so toei guessed.
C) bra wasn't taller than she should have been, pan was shorter. They scaled goku down to goten level/namek gohan size, and scaled pan down some too. Toriyama drew her almost a head taller than goku, and coming up to trunks' chin.
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>>153121414
H-hot.
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>>153121430
There was some kind of bloom filter, and it's also present in the opening. It doesn't look that great, and I hope it doesn't last long.
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>>153121430

new animators
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>>153121414
My first move would be to lick the back of her knee

Deal with that 18, right in the knee-pussy
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>>153121348
Fuck out of here dub fag

Here let me post why Goku actually spared Vegeta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QTRN8YX2LM
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>>153121346
The mascot of Dragon Ball turning evil? The face of worldwide merchandise turning evil? I just don't see it happening. He's an idiot, sure, but not an outright super villain.
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>>153121221
it's goku we are talking, even getting a scratch is too much
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>>153119213
>Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
pretty funny when there's only two left
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>>153119867
A shitload already exists if you know where to look
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>>153121513
>"This is the only thing I'll ever ask for myself."
>"He'll never have a change of heart like Piccolo!"
LIAR
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>>153121520
He's not evil he's falling back into his roots.
Please don't be upset it's just they way he is.
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>>153121513
you could have posted the Kai version also
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>>153120724
Because all of them that's not Goku will end up jobbing.
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>>153121513
goku sounds like he is going to cry
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>>153119967
They have two other sets.
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>yfw after the tournament, they wish Goku back to being a kid so he becomes weak enough to be unable to compete in multiversal level tournaments
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>>153121641
This is true. Which is why I never really care when people call Vegetta a jobber. They are all jobbers. At least Vegetta gets an occasional fight in.
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>>153121513
>"This is the guy who killed all of our friends!"

Did Krillin already forget about Nappa?
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>>153121593
Why would he post inferior version?
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>>153121665
That's how much he wanted to fight Vegeta again and put the lives of all his friends in danger. He doesn't give a fuck in the end.

Goku knows he is selfish. He's doing the exact same only that the power scale has gone way up so instead of dozens of planets being at risk, now the universes are being put at risk.

I'm sure Universes 13-18 did some fucked up shit causing Zeno to destroy them. I bet Goku is going to wish them back so he could challenge the fucked up evil people that caused Zeno to destroy those universes.
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>>153120770
Nah, toei just makes it look a bit yamchaish
Its his own thing and ends up almost yajirobe level a few years later.
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>>153121706
Japan has group culture thinking so he lumped Vegeta and Nappa together as they were both the outsiders looking to fuck the earth up.
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Goku is going to be Saiyan first Earthling second this arc
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>>153121641
17 and 18 will probably last a couple fights at least, since they're being pushed hard and Toriyama probably forgot that Piccolo should be stronger than them. Vegeta will last the requisite number of 2nd fiddle fights before jobbing near the end, and Buu is a wildcard who probably won't job so much as get bored and wander off in the middle of a match.
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>>153121696
>then the rest of Super is a retelling of GT
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>>153119617
the point is that no one knows that he actually saved the world many times.
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GOKU IS NOT A VILLAIN REEEE
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>>153119671
Holy shit, I also forgot about how he didn't understand why Vegeta should care about seeing the birth of his daughter. They really dropped a lot of hints showing how far gone Goku is getting. Vegeta is more human/lawful good than he is at this point.
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>>153118963
You're wrong, the scouters were seen already in the Tuffles/Tsufurjin equipment vs the Saiyans
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>>153121744
it's better than the original english dub
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>>153121745
I think you should take a break
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>>153121807
>Being the cause of multiple universes being destroyed
>More damage than every villain you've defeated combined
>Not the villain

Hell, it's singlehandedly Goku's fault the Future Timeline was destroyed.
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>>153121814
That fagget tells it all.
https://youtu.be/o4RmbN06_uU
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>want to catch up on Super
>haven't seen DB/Z in over a decade
>decide to rewatch it first

Only 270 more episodes to go and I can catch up guys. It's been pretty great rewatching it actually
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>>153121807
Well of course not, He's a Saiyan and they aren't bad people they just don't know right from wrong sometimes is all. Don't be angry it's just in his nature.
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>>153119452
advertising means nothing. marketing is the art of lying.
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>>153121463
Goku is a pretty contradicting character. He cares about other people's lives, including villains. He wasn't even planning to save Frieza until he begged for his help, which means he saved him not to have a good fight later, but because he actually cared. But at the same time there are ocassions where he cares more about fightning.and doesn't give a shit about how many people he's putting at risk.

Like another anon said, sparing a villain's life to have a good fight with him later is different than putting the entire multiverse at risk to have a good fight.
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>>153120097
Pan DID beat Goten in the Tournament, so by Saiyan logic, she is the better mate.
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>>153121858
Not him but you should get used to it, all the daddy issues of Gohanfags and Blackfags are getting into the Evil Goku bandwagon.

People know he is selfish and that override his better judgment, but he is still good and pure hearted.
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>>153121842
Next you'll claim Goku's FATHER isn't an average fighter, but a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST.
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>>153119741
He's helping him yiff in HFIL
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>>153121814
I'm betting super is gonna lead into goku being strong enough that there's no point to reaching new levels, and that's when pan turns 4 and wants to start training.
Goku will realize the value of passing his knowledge on, like roshi, and that will lead to his interest in Oob.
Basically, goku does get THAT strong, but it's useless, since there's no application for it.
Another possibility is that goku will be barred from using his god for some reason.
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Hell, I'll take more mook fights as long as I see people other than Goku and Vegeta rocking the tournament

Or a little character development from each character

Or both
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>>153121915
Why you niggers keep pretending he knew Zeno would destroy the losers?
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>>153121835
Oh yeah you're right. Is that canon? Where can I find that again?
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Someone replace Goku with an angry Goku or the red aura Goku from the op
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>Zeno ask to destroy a planet
>Don't
LOCK ME UP AND THROW THE KEY
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DBZ goku was a hell of a lot more competent then retarded DBS Goku, despite the moralfagging.
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>>153122006
Also, looking at that picture reminds me that 7 of those 9 team members wanted to beat Goku's face in at one point or another
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>>153122000
Goku is going to wish to go back to being only as strong as he was when he was 12 so he can re-train all over again.
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>>153122017
He didn't but he completely brushed off Beerus and Whis' warning that implicitly stated that nothing good would come from this.
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>>153122039
he was only a moral fag in the english dub
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>>153121915
>dbz
>lured Vegeta in the middle of nowhere so nothing else would get hurt

>dbs
>Goku fights the "strongest" fighter right in the middle of the city until he's forced to stop by Whis
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>>153121814
Goku doesn't understand that. His only family was Grandpa Gohan. How long was he raised by him? He's been a loner forever and has never stuck at one place growing up. He left Bulma, Oolong, and Yamcha for Roshi. He left Roshi and Krillin for the dragonball hunt. He left his friends to train for the tournament. He left earth itself to go train with Kami.

In Z he spent a shit load of time being dead away from his family. He's a vagabond. He's Ging
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Are they really gonna show all 130 fights?
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>>153122061
Yes and that's when Goku selfishness comes to play but he is not evil.
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>>153122061
>when a god of destruction points certain death in your face and says "don't push that button" but you push it anyway
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>>153121313
Because the scale is higher.
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>>153122006
I hope Piccolo wins against someone this time.
It was kind of expected he'd lose to Frost even though the latter had fought already, but I kind of hoped Piccolo could win with a cheap one-shot, anyway.

And I would still accept any bullshit asspull if it made Piccolo relevant again.
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>>153121430
yes it's a shitty filter

i like the slight desturation, but they need to turn down that blurriness/bloom a little
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>>153122088
Most likely not. We will only see U7 fight, other universes might eliminate each other.
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>>153122111

So does this show Goku is 100% sure he could beat Beerus and Whis in a fight?
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>>153122088
I'm pretty sure they'll skip a lot of them like the old tournaments in DB
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I think I'm getting used to seeing Goku as a menace. Nigga's so childish. Childish innocence times 1000.
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>>153121894
What arc you in?
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>>153120298
Never. Pan fuses with her mother.
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>>153122141
At the very least it shows he's getting sick of them telling him what to do

Remember he told Hit they're only the pawns of Champa and Beerus "for now"

He was always planning to kick Beerus' ass eventually and the time is drawing closer
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>>153122141
No I think he realized Beerus was bluffing. He was never going to destroy Zeno's friend and anger him.
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>>153121251
Oh god its even mirrored for effect
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>>153121974
db kai has the objectively better dub
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>>153121937
No she didn't. There is a sign that says the tournament had to close down. Her match with Goten is just a sparing match. Though Goten probably did underestimate her and it would have counted as her win if the tournament was still going on. But I doubt she was quite up to Goten's level even if he was slacking off.
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>>153122169
so she has memories of gohan as her dad and her lover
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>>153122141
Nah that's just his Saiyan side showing. He even threatens them.
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>>153121440
Slayers is great Shounen though, and the main character is a a chick.
Most Shounen just has terrible writers.
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>>153122087
But Goku does have bonds with people, he is not some emotionless autist
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>>153122153
He's a menace but he's our lovable menace.

The other universes are NOT going to see it that way though.
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>>153118213
Yes. He is directly responsible for every death post Freiza.
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>>153122061
Beerus is the new King Kai/Supreme Kai/Old Kai
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>>153121188
>>153121268
Maybe he just thinks it's tasteless for a grown man to seriously fight a woman, with 18 getting a pass because she's an android and they don't count.
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>>153122222
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>>153122222
Wanna take over as the Goku apologist?
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>>153122212
>Slayers
my absolute ningen
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>>153122088
>>153122136
We might see some of the U6 fights, maybe one U10 fight before the inevetable U7 vs. U10 fight.

Oh, and the obligatory UClown wrecking some fool U, probably 6 or 10, to show how big the new threat is.
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>Middle match is a 2v2
>rando's from Universe Who Cares v Goku and Vegeta
>U7 winning pretty handily
>randos do the fusion dance
>U7 faces when
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>>153122249
Spopovich
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>>153122267
Hell no I just wasted quads I'm trash
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>>153122322
Yes you are 18
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>>153122039
It was nice to see him finally give middle finger to Beerus. As Gokufag I've been waiting for this since U6 tournament.
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>>153122222
Quints of Truth
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>>153122307
He's a villain, every time a dude is hurting a girl in this series it's always a villain doing it and the way it's portrayed is always negatively.
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>>153118834
>Disliking power levels
>Disliking arbitrary numerical representations of power

You are the reason that my favorite useless statistic has been gradually wiped away from Shounen and I hate you for it.
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>>153122289
>Vegeta swollows his pride for once and is willing to do the dance
>Kakarot says it's not Saiyan like
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>>153122206
What would Pan say/think after she finds out about the memories of her parents fuggin?
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>>153122385
>dad is good in bed ... I want to die
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>>153122360
Still the manga was extemely brutal and both Shin and Goku had boners while it happened
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDePUq5fuWA

Aaaand another generic Anime Opening..

why don't they even try to fit the lighthearted charme of Chala-Head-Chala, or Dokkan Dokkan?
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>>153122006
>Counting down the episodes till Gohan jobs.
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>>153122370
I like them too but our autism was holding back good fights. It's not any fun when you can say
>person A has a power of 1200
>person B has a power of 600
>therefor person B can never beat person A

Don't be selfish anon. People clinging to numbers like that are what brought shounen down considerably.
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So out of 130 fighters(discounting Goku and Vegeta), how many do you think are SSB tier?

My guess is around 10
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>>153122407
better quality version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az7wDedqsNI
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>Goku keeps gaining more and more power.
>Keeps causing mischief and trouble for everyone, especially the gods.
>Goku eventually decides he wants to become THE god and surpass every god in every universe.
>Goes one step too far and irreversably wrecks everything.
>Zen-Oh punishes Goku by sealing him under a mountain.
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>>153120724
>>153122006
I get how these guys are the strongest on earth. But we are talking about your pick of the litter in an entire universe.

Was Beerus so lazy that he just let Goku pick the other 9?
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>>153122418
2
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>>153122432
I'd dig it.
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>>153122418
Exactly 7
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>>153122345
Yeah, he's had it coming for a long time. Now if only the cat would be defeated.

The tournament has to be Goku's moment to finally rise above Beerus. How much longer can they stretch this out?
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>>153122432
Yeah I would be ok with this
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>>153122438
we could have had our own metal man instead krillin/gohan
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>>153122379

>Ok Kakarot lets fuse
>But Vegeta, that would just make me weaker
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>>153122461
As long as merchandise keeps selling.
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>>153122432
>Goku wanting to become the god
That so fucking out of character, you niggers truly seem you have only watched a ripoff of the show.

Him getting cooky and thinking he could fight Zeno is more believable, but just fight him, Goku has never been someone who cares about ruling or titles.
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>>153122407
I don't ever remember either of those being lighthearted
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Is Toriyama trying to un-cuck the series?

Feels like he is trying to undo all the cuckening to every character after Cell Games.
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>>153122491
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>>153122503
It's outta character for Goku, but not outta question for Kakarot
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>>153122418
We know at least 2 of them (Hit and Ayy lmao) is SSB tier at least
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Its not often that I do a "I told you so" post. But every now and again I just have to.

I told you people that Goku doesn't give a fuck about Goten, and by extension his family. And this episode proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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>>153119898
Goku seems to be a decent farmer as the veggie seller paid top dollar for Goku's produce.
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>>153122503
He just wishes Dragon Ball Super would turn into Journey to the West, like Dragon Ball originally was.
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>>153122511
>un-cuck
>cuckening
Talk like a normal person, retard.
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Do you think he's going to pull pranks on the rest of the GoD?
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>>153121835
>Tuffles/Tsufurjin

That ain't canon. lad.
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>>153118985
I still say this is gonna be shin kaioken. You can fucking screencap this and if it turns out that it's not kaioken at all whatsoever I'll exile myself off this board
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>>153122557
It was foreshadowed only a couple of episodes before as to the reveal of you hired Hit to kill Goku

A man that reckless is bound to get a lot of people killed
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>>153122557
He got money for Chichi and happily took Goten along for some fun and training. What a demon.
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>>153122573
Nah I bet he's really depressing and an alchoholic
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So how does Vegeta's and Goku's minds work for powering up during fights?

start in base
>base not good enough
go SSJ
>still not enough
SSJ2
>not cuttin it
SSJ3?

NOPE FUCK THAT STRAIGHT TO SSB, fuck Goku doesn't even go base God anymore
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>>153122602
>Chichi
Only to get the hag off his back.
>Goten
Again only so Chichi wouldn't nag him. This episode? As soon as he sees he can hand Goten off to Trunks and Bulma he's fucking outta there.

Just like when Goten meets Goku in the manga, Goku literally doesn't give a shit about him.
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>>153122611
Base seems to get the job done for warm ups and teasing shit out.
SS is usually the standard power up when they are actually taking the threat seriously.
SSB is your super serious form.

Everything inbetween is not needed.
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>>153122611
Jumping straight to their strongest form would be like admitting they have to go all out and don't have time to dick around

They just aren't like that
Well, Vegeta is now. He seems more willing to jump right up to Blue.
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>>153122611
SSJ3 was a bad form. Only reason Goku used it before was because it was the best power he had at the time. It's just too much of a drain and fights are taking longer then he can keep the form up. Why bother when SSJ1 and 2 don't have this drastic drain and if things get hairy, he can just got Blue?
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>>153122569
Being based in Journey to the West doesn't mean it had to be a exact copy
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>>153122438
>Frieza and Majin Buu seemed to be the most powerful beings in that known universe
>nearly everyone on their team either is/surpassed both those characters
Roshi survives on gimmicks, Tien is a born fighter, but Krillin seems to be the weakest leg here. I hope they have good fights.
I hope we get shirtless Tien back.
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>>153122662
also SSJB burns through a lot of energy so it's good to save it
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>>153122611
Base is testing the waters
Super Saiyan 1/2 is seeing the extent of their opponent's power
Blue is for truly taking it seriously.
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>>153122640
Why should he care he was forced into the marriage. He thought marriage was fucking food and only said yes to make Chi Chi shut up. He probably regrets it
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>>153122640
Why tell when you can show
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>>153122683

fair point, but doesn't Blue drain them like SSJ3 did? Wasn't that why Vegeta lost to Hit?
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>>153122745
Fucking jackass.
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>>153122719
>I hope we get shirtless Tien back.
Admit it, anon
You just want to see his bowling ball sized shoulders, don't you?
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>>153122745
Gohan got him killed. Seriously stop projecting your daddy issues on Goku. You act as if he got himself killed on purpose to avoid his family
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This is the first arc of super that actually looks mildly entertaining and its just a ripoff of Dragon Ball Multiverse How will they fuck it up?

The tournament better not be the goku and vegeta show like always.

Hoping Jackie Chun makes a comeback
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>>153122756
Only if they are constantly going in and out of it. Staying in the form isn't a strain at all, it's getting up TO the form that is the strain.
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>>153122719
Even Krillin cut off Freeza's tail. Odds are the vast majority of fighters in this tournament won't have the bullshit hax regeneration that Cell and Buu have.
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>>153122756
Anon they're trying to sell SSB merchandise not SS3 merchandise.
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>>153122793
>ripoff of Dragon Ball Multiverse
wut
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>>153122778
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>>153122784
I know, right? It's not like Vegeta's having the baby or anything.
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Goku has been noble in the past but you can't deny that he is getting worse, something just might be wrong with him.
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>>153122794
That's Toyo's awful shit from the manga. It doesn't matter in the anime
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>>153122793
The whole goku black thing would have been so much cooler if goku was pretending to be evil to infiltrate an evil organization or something. Cliche I know but the reveal was just oh its some guy that is in no way goku. Even evil gotten sounded more interesting
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>>153122756
Blue has even less drain than base SSJ. That's the entire reason Goku can even do Kaio-Ken on top of it without instantly killing himself.
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>>153121346
Ready as hell for Goku to turn heel. Begets got a face turn, Berries got a face turn. We need a good heel turn
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>>153122840
Next you're gonna say you were only pretending to be retarded
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>>153122822
No wonder they say Krillin is the strongest human
Because whatever this man is, he is not human.
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>>153122414
DBS no-powerlevel bullshittery has gone too far that Roshi is labeled as one the top 10 fighters in the universe even though Whis can literally find tons of people that would've been stronger if powerlevels were still a thing.
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When is the next manga chapter coming out?
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In the most recent episode he went way too hard against those random thugs. They literally should have died upon impact especially that one guy he smashed into a rock formation
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>>153122830
>Vegeta didn't give a flying fuck for Trunks' birth and was off in space tryjng to become a super saiyan
Pottery.
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>>153122834
I think they are trying to play him off as innocent and charming with his straight forward thinking

But endearing ignorance can only excuse so much jackassery
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>>153122870
>yfw elf ear girl pulls back her hat and reveals her third eye, Tien was an alien the WHOLE time and reveals something that lets Tien win the fight
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>Gohan posting has decreased the moment evil Goku became a "possibility"
Daddy issues strike again
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>>153122888

Anon, are you not capable of taking a hit like that?

What are you, a toddler?
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>>153122834
>it's just how toriyama envisioned him to be
I actually really fucking hate how goku is now.
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>>153122894
>GT becomes more canon as Vegeta slowly starts to care more about his baby girl than Trunks
Super Pottery
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>>153122830
Goku was looking out for Trunks. Vegeta was an asshole for all of Trunks childhood and seeing Vegeta care about his new sibling while he experienced Vegeta standing aside when Gero almost killed him. So Goku decided to get Vegeta to train to comfort Trunks in a way. Also at this point Vegeta isn't even good enough to spar with Goku
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>>153122931
He's been using the monkey-ken for the last 20 years
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>>153122942
Tien hasn't had any developement since DB, I'll take anything at this point.
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>>153122956

I jut want Full Saiyan Goku v Mystic Gohan+
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>>153122956
It already deceased the moment people saw Android 17 was going to do stuff in this arc.
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>>153122222
>The other universes are NOT going to see it that way though.
Well, the preview said the losers will get erased from existence.

So they pretty much have to win.
All because some idiot from a different universe wanted to fight.
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>>153119863
Not who you replied to but I am pretty sure the risk of his entire Universe being destroyed is worth desperation.
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>>153120814
>His lust for battle becomes a separate being
>Battles it and creates a new dimension
> Extra Zeno decides to rule over it

calling it now
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>>153118213
>Goku is evil now

BUT WHY
Can Bills even defeat him now?
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>>153122966
Vegeta could really learn important things from Goku. Goku's a great dad but awful husband but that's Chi Chi's fault
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>>153122278
Slayers is legit my favorite Shounen series.
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>>153122985
Think he'll duplicate himself? Or the weird four arm technique?
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>>153122962
Dude got kicked into a rock and it exploded. suck a fat one
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>>153123062
He's a shit dad.
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>>153122966
>Vegeta is weaker than Goku
>Bullets now hurt him
>Krillin = Goku > Vegeta

No wonder they got Krillin to be in the tournament.
IT'S KRILLER TIME, BIATCHES!
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>>153123053

honestly, probably not
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>>153123073
Duplicate 4 arm Kikoho.
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>>153123095

it's never gonna be Kriller time
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>>153122722
It doesn't.
Only the manga has SSB having a downside and it's the activation cost that's high.
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>>153123053
>>153123111
Being threatened by a Hakai didn't phase him. nobody can stop his bloodlust
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How is Goku not a great dad. Gohan's a disapointment but that's his own fault. Goku managed to turn Goten into a Gokufag even though Goten used to be a Gohanfag. Also Goten tries to spend as much time with him as possible which is sad because Chi Chi always gets in his way. Seriously the kids father was gne for 7 years yet she makes him do math instead of letting him bond with his father. She deserves the shitty way Goku treats her
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>>153123161

>The Dark Super Saiyan was first used by Goku. This technique takes you to a new crazy level of a Super Saiyan! A Dark Super Saiyan has powers way past regular Super Saiyan, but unlike the regular there are some side effects. To begin to achieve this mode your heart must be black, soulless, unforgiving, and ruthless. The only thing you would ever want to achieve this form is death and destruction! This attack also may alter your personality for good! Dark Super Saiyan is one of the most strongest Super Saiyan forms ever!
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I dont get why goku wants to fight all the other universes. by comparison, he's weak as fuck.

all gods of destruction are stronger than him.
then the angels who tag along the gods are like twice as strong.

wouldnt it make sense to get on beerus's level first before taking on literally every universe.
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>>153123202
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Which Dragon Ball girl is the biggest semen demon?
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>>153123211
CHAOS CONTROL
WHERES THAT DAMN FOUR STAR BALL
DISAPPEAR
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>>153123257
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Come to think of it, Goku Black became the way he is because he took Goku's body and became infected with battle lust

It was this addiction that made him drag out his conflict with future Trunks, thus giving future Trunks a chance for survival.
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>>153119077
He request to stay dead at the end if Cell Saga to stop people coming after him and drawing attention to Earth.
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>>153123211
Whoa, h ain't goin that far. He's just embracing his culture is all, try not to be upset or worried it's is completely natural and in his nature.
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>>153123237
He is a saiyan, he has a boner fighting strong people.
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>>153123237
>by comparison, he's weak as fuck.

Out of the 120 combatants, he's definitely top 20 at the least.
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>>153123122
God I hope so, that was one of the best thing Multiverse did. Shame that the Kikoho is such an all or nothing technique. It drains life force and not just ki, so using it is almost sure to kill him. He's still lucky he didn't die from using it against Cell since he only got off one against Nappa.
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>>153123288
That didn't work at all.
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>>153123211

>during his fight, Goku realizes he isn't fighting for his friends, his family, or even his universe
>He's just fighting because he loves to fight
>Shin Saiyan unlocked
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>>153123202
Instead that Gohan filler we should have gotten father son bonding
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>>153123288
Oh please. That was solely so he could fuck off into the afterlife and attain even greater power. If his sacrifice was so great, why did he not look in on his family through Kaio once during the 7 years?
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>>153122141

Goku would get spanked by Beerus still, much less Whis. But if Beerus kills goku then Zeno will destroy him
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>>153123281
Have you seen her bloodline?
Her mom was showing off her panties to anyone, and her mom is the ageless stepford wife

There was no chance she was going to escape the craving of the D
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Goku died too many times and it's starting to effect his mind.
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>>153123257

18, hands down
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Do people seriously like the generic OP we got?
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>>153123287
there was someone who said that if Goku is mearly pretending does that mean Blacks desire for battle and his battle crazy attitude was from Kakarot? It's something to take into consideration for sure.
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>>153123374
>generic
You have to at least prove your claim.
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>>153123374
There's bits of it I like, but on the whole I think it's pretty mediocre
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>yfw the only people Goku currently shows actual affection are King Kai and Goten
I honestly dont remember Super Goku being kind or supportive to Gohan
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>>153123374
I like it. No Head Cha La, but pretty good.
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>>153123374
I do
Come at me, brah
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>>153123374
>the entirety of it is focused on returning fighters, and all the rest is just fighting
Fuck yes you idiot, it's the only reason to watch DB.
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>>153123374
>Not liking woo-hoo
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>>153122756

No vegeta lost to Hit because he couldn't figure out time skip and kept getting kicked in the chest
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>>153123288
I would say the reason he was dead to begin with. Sacrificing his life.
And also king kai and a monkey but fuck it, the greater good and all.
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>>153123374
Its just alright. Not really memorable or charming.
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>>153123374
still better than the last one

I know it's video game-esque but it's pretty much what you'd expect a new DBZ opening to be
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>>153123432
>No Head Cha La
Pretty close in my book t b h, henoheno Kappa tho.
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>>153123374
>NO SATISFACTION FROM SEX ONLY FIGHTING CAN MAKE ME FEEL ALIVE
Fucking Goku. He honestly sounds crazy in the opening. "I'll blow zeno away".
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>>153123374
I do. There's been worse.
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>>153123427
Goten likes training and adventures(if Chichi will let him) so he's a good to have around. Also, Goten is young, it makes sense that papa Goku spends time with him. Gohan has a full time job and he's a family man, he doesn't have the free time to fart around with Goku while he farms or whatever.
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So Goku and his fighting pals are gonna be seen like some bringers of chaos by the combatants of the other 11 universes?

That's refreshing. Every arc they were always seen as the "good guys", with somewhat the exception in the U6 vs U7 tournament arc.
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>>153118752

Is there a reason why he's re learning mystic and not getting on the blu crew?
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>>153122088
Pretty sure the tournament is a series of 3v3s so it would be more like 40 fights, even then it would be easy as hell to cut out two fighters and only leave in the fight of the their ace fighter meaning that realistically most teams would get 10-30 fights most of which would only be shown briefly or over and done with in a minute then we move onto other fights.
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>>153123499
Goku please IT Chi Chi somewhere far away
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>>153123427
Goten reminds Goku of his younger self. Gohan? What can Goku possibly relate to Gohan with? Gohan is a loving intellectual family man. Goku is a deadbeat battle junkie.
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>>153123441
This
Seriously
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>>153123524
Still you're never to old to spend time with your dad
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>>153123474
>video game openings aren't anime enough

final bout and budokai 3 disagree
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>>153123499
>I wanna laugh like crazy
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For everyone complaining about the whole U7 team being from earth, consider this.

Freeza was for the longest time strongest mortal in the universe, until super saiyans arose. Gero actually built a bunch of androids, who eventually became good, stronger than that. Piccolo became at least as strong as them. Then, an Eldtrich abomination stronger than that awoke, and through the events, its a bit weaker version joined up.

Ideally, Goten and Trunks should also be taken, but I guess we can tell from buu saga that relying on them is a pretty bad idea.

This leaves us with three spots that could potentially be taken by aliens between human z fighters and Freeza in power, buthe hack Toriyama is too lazy to think of anyone like that. Besides, all three chosen humans have already shown being able to repel an alien invasion, and in a way this team is a way to cash in on popular RoF squad.

Unless of course, you're one of those, who would want them to resurrect villains for this tournament. That would give more options, but thankfully the dragon balls are not active at the moment.
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>>153123628

They aren't bringing goten and trunks because gotenks is a fusion and that's cheating
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>>153123575
Gohan should put more effort into his relationship with Goku. Let's be honest he's a shit scholar mooching off Satan. He should quit and go fishing with Goku
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>>153123499
http://jisho.org/search/ottamage
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>>153123537
>implying he'll be able to go blue
Shitposting aside, since he let himself go he got a lot weaker, doubting he could go SS during RoF. He probably can't go mystic.
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>>153122006
>>153120724
After this arc, if they can all hold their own, their asses better be front and center to any threats that come to the earth's way.

Go Avenger tier and ask "Why wasn't X helping at the time?"
And don't give me that "Oh, they were living out their life" bulshit. Life seems to end if there is no planet to live on it.
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>>153123374
Don't care for but I'm lovin the ED.
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>>153123659
>Gohan should abandon his dream because Goku doesn't give a fuck
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Are they going to be casualities in this arc?

Some people said that smug park ranger might bite the dust. I know that he was once resurrected with the earth dragon balls and can't get brought back to life a second time with them, but what about Namek's?
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>>153123659
Gohan is a nerd, he genuinely likes being a scholar even though he is a shit one.
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>>153123659
Goku is the one who abandoned the family and didn't even check on them once during the time skip. And he's happy about it. >>153122745
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>>153123712

Well yeah, bitches better listen when goku talks.
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>>153123712
Actually it's Chi Chi's dream. Deep down under all that conditioning Gohan's a sadist who loves fighting
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>>153123743
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>>153123753
>this is what Gohanfags actually believe
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>>153123628
That, and power levels are bullshit

>>153123645
No, it's because they are kids, and are inexperience, mentally and in fighting prowess.
"[They] may have the power, but not the fighting experience" or discipline to participate.
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>>153123374
>Not linking honorable mentions: Buu & Piccolo, the OP
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>>153123689
The way this is going, i don't think there could be anything else, this is literally the peak of power in the franchise.
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>>153123659
I forgot. What is Gohan's actual job, besides his recent stunt devil role? What does he do? Where does he work? What is he a scholar of?
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>>153123753
Yeah let's just forget that while he was fighting Cell he kept saying that he didn't actually want to fight
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>>153122491
>Vegeta turns into being a Ki Battery for Goku to use instead of an actual partner or fusee
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>>153123724
To be fair anybody would abandon their family if gohan was their son
and goku only did it to give gohan a chance but we all know what happened in buu saga
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>>153123779
>Androids with an aura

I hate when they forget that their whole energy system works differently.
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>>153123779
They are really hyping Android 17 being in there.
And not gonna lie, I'm loving it.
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>>153123772
No, it what they want to believe. That's why the common Gohanfag is so angry all the time, frustration.
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>>153123867
Don't fall for it anon.
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>>153123867
Me too, hope he gets some decent fights before getting BTFO like everyone else not named Goku and Vegeta.
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>>153123829
Yeah, now I understand Goku.
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>>153123799
He goes to conventions to socialize with his fellow nerds. He lives off his wife's money
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>>153123799
No idea about what he studies but I am pretty one episode showed him trying to become the Assistant to a reputable Professor.

If it helps, Gohan is the author of a book about Ki and how exactly it works and due to him being married to Videl it becomes a massive hit causing the Martial Arts scene to many times larger than that of Goku's youth. this happens in DBO so take it with a grain of salt
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>>153123800
Yet when he finally stopped holding back he was enjoying beating Cell
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>>153123867
It's their time to shine.
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>>153123986
And then immediately regretted it when it cost him his father's life?
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>>153124041
Like Gohan cares for the man who never raised him
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Who is the best Dragon Ball waifu?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12280540
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>>153124041
When Cell came back he starting smiling while saying "I'm glad you're alive now I can kill you myself".
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>>153123982
>Gohan writes a book about things Piccolo taught him.

So all of that studying is a complete waste of time?
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>>153123840
Why the fuck wouldn't they have an Aura? They're still humans.
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>>153124080
>projecting this fucking hard
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>>153124080
>>153124136
Gohanfags everybody.
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>>153124080
>>153124117
let piccolo,goku die
HOLY SHIT GUISE GOHAN IS EVIL !!!!
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>>153124080
>still wearing his mystic copy of his dad's gi
Anon....
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Why do they not look in their backyard for strong fighters first before dragging other universes into the mix? U6 and U7 are twins, there is bound to be a Hit race around somewhere all stronger than Goku.
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>>153124136
Well I mean, we don't know the contents of the book, for all we know it features genuine scientific explanations and theories behind Ki which winds up making people better with it, if it helps, DBO has power levels based on level gear buffs and forms and at like level 18 my Earthling character had a power level of 18 thousand.
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>>153124080
Stop. This is sad and pathetic.
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>>153124136
Yes, Piccolo sure taught him how the physical properties of a Ki blast works.

Piccolo gave him a good damn lesson on its interaction with gravity.

Piccolo taught him all about how Force = Mass x Acceleration, so many formulas Piccolo had Gohan learn.

You fucking moron.
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>>153119533
they aren't even moonbuster tier, but they could solo anyone in the DBZ universe. Too many genjutsus and crazy magical attacks.

Physically, they are probably more like yamcha
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>>153123774
>>153123645
or maybe they have to stay and protect the earth and their families
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>>153119587
Except gohan is an arts student
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>>153124312
That would explain why he is such a faggot.
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>>153124288
Dude. You can cast all the faggy magic you want but when you get punched in the face by someone who can level a fucking mountain, you ain't shit.
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>>153124303
That's a nice way of putting it, but we now it's because the are autistic as fuck. Buu saga proved that.
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Which characterfags are the worst?
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>>153124492
Oolangfags
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>>153124492
Gohanfags and Blackfags are the worst.

Piccolofags are nice, they know their place
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>>153124492
goten and fat buu
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>>153123681
>Probably can't go Mystic

Anon, do you not see the gif?
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>>153124492
Do anti-characterfags count? Cause anti-gohanfags like to trigger gohanfags in otherwise calm topics.
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>>153124584

This guy here asked for it:
>>153123753
>>153124080
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I don't know about you guys, but I really feel we will have at least two versions of the opening again.
That Goku crimson aura is not just going to be for him to go back to base form and suddenly be stronger, it just seems pretty clear to me that they can't show the transformation yet.
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Who else is hyped for the possibility of seeing 17 and 18 fight as a team like they did in History of Trunks? That's what has me the most hyped for in the upcoming arc
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>>153124562
I meant before then. Should've typed couldn't. You know how when someone stops lifting for a while and they can't lift as much so they have to slowly work their way up again. Think something like that, but with Gohan and his transformations.
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>>153125000
My favorite thing about 17's fighting style was that he didn't use a single ki blast against Piccolo. I want more of that janky android shit
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>>153124878
What color do you think it'll be?

Red plus blue equals purple, I'm betting Super Duper Saiyan God Super Duper Saiyan will be grape flavored.
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>>153123779

anyone figured out 17's special attack?

its a fast light beam or sonicboom or something


>Captcha: Genesh
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>>153125316
It kinda looks like a blue version of the Super Electric Strike from Xenoverse
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>>153125303
I'm betting Crimson for two reasons: the preview, and Beerus's dream.
Yeah yeah, the dream is most likely related to the first SSG we saw, but I just don't imagine having a FOURTH color drawn into the mix.

Or maybe they will figure out how to go SSB2, this way it's not something limited by for example having to know the Kaio-ken, once again leaving Vegeta behind.
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>153126049
Twintails angel is best angel.
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>>153126049
So that we feel remorse when Zen-chan kills her and her universe
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>>153126049
r34 on her?
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>>153122611
>>153122683
>>153122756

Let me do some clarifying on how the forms work. First of all, all super saiyan forms increase ki consumption, even blue. It's like eating a bunch of candy and fighting during the sugar rush, you spend all your energy at once then crash. The thing that can be improved is the efficiency, which they did during the cell arc by staying ssj for weeks on end with minimal ki flow. Whenever someone says "strain on my body", that basically means ki endurance. In DBZ fatigue is measured by ki, when have you ever seen someone have maximum ki but be too tired to fight because of "strain on their body"? It doesn't happen. After Goku used ssjb kiaoken, the resulting strain was really just explained to be him unable to channel his ki properly. Let's try and make a math analogy. Say you have 100 ki and you can drain 1 ki per second to output 1 ki per second. You have the ability to go ssj though, and that causes you to drain 4 ki per second, but it only comes out as 2 ki per second. That's kind of shit efficiency, but it's still double the output of what you could do before. Then you train for the cell games, and ssj now drains 3 ki per second to output 2 ki per second. Less strain on your body.
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>>153126275
So secondly, other than blue, ssj is just a better version of kaioken. Seriously, that's all it does. This is just my guess now, but the reason Goku was able to discover super saiyan when no one else could was probably related to his really high mastery of kaioken beforehand. The only difference between the two is that you have to be really really angry when in super saiyan. It's for this reason that he can't use kaioken or the spirit bomb while in super saiyan, they require tranquility and focus. (when goku absorbed his spirit bomb to defeat super 13, he went ssj AFTER focusing the ki). So what makes blue different and powerful is that it drops the angry requirement in addition to having a higher base ki throughput. So not only can he do kaioken etc, but he can also waste less ki in general throughout the fight because of his better control, sustaining the higher ki output and probably breaking even with the duration of normal ssj form. 3 ki drain for 3 ki output. It also comes with some binary benefits, like detecting god ki etc. You can either do it or you can't, regardless of strength.

Thirdly, there is no difference between "ssj1" and "ssj2". They are the same thing. It's like the difference between kaiokenx10 and kaiokenx20. It's the same technique, but after more training goku was able to do it better and more intensely. Once you reach "ssj2" anything below that is just "less than full ssj2".
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>>153126294
Fourthly, ssj3 is a really shitty form that only gets any use because of very specific circumstances. Unlike ssj2 it is actually different from ssj1. It uses a retarded amount of energy for an absolutely tiny power level increase. I forgot the exact number, but I believe Goku said he could only use it for about 5 minutes max. And this is while DEAD, which, according to him, enabled him to maintain the form much longer than normal. It's like draining 10 ki for 2.5 out when he could just stick to 3 drain for 2 out. The power level difference is so minimal that Goku was still able to fight the majority of the kid buu fight in normal ssj and the boost from ssj3 wasn't even enough to end it (compare this with going from base to ssj1, where frieza just straight up lost). The only reason goku uses it anymore is to demonstrate maximum non-god power. For example, while testing trunks, using god ki wouldn't have been fair.

So at the end of the day, ssjb kaioken is really kind of just like going from kaiokenx900 to kiaokenx910. It's just another multiplier. Meanwhile, humans are stuck progressing with addition instead of multiplication. I think Krillin cheated though, which is why he's so strong relative to other humans. Unlocking potential seems to be a multiplier too, assuming Gohan's (which replaces super saiyan) is similar. Maybe Krillin should hit up old kai and get the better one that so he can fight on par with Goku again.
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