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HE'S BACK
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You were warned and you didn't listen.
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>>153089325
It's going to be hilarious when he jobs.
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Leave Goku to us
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>>153089325
And he will job.
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>>153089325
Jobbing is hard work, good job Gohan.
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Still weaker than ssjb
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>>153089325
Can't wait to see him jobbing.
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Ok so what is wrong with geekdom101?
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>>153089325
only to job harder than piccolo
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>>153089325
>leave the tournament to me dad
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FEM-BROLY
FEM-BEERUS
THE LORAX
CYBORG SARGE
AND THEIR CAPTAIN, AYY LMAO

THEY ARE THE CLOWN FORCE, HERE TO STOP THE GOKU MENACE

TOKUSENTAI
TOKUSENTAI
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>>153089401
No, leave Goku to me.
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>>153089149
>we will never have a crossover between Dragon Ball and Jackie Chan Adventures where Goku and Jackie Chan fight against Super Ultimate Perfect Shendu

kill me
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>>153089401
Are they some sort of Power Ranger team?

Also why the fuck is Brolina with them instead of being with Universe 6?
She looks like Cabba, would fit if she is from the same place as him
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>>153089325
Leave the job to me, Vegeta-san!
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>>153089439
>why is everyone in db super so skinny
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>>153089439
GOKU'S GONNA FREAK
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>>153089325
what if this fight was setting up the idea that Gohan has to stop his father
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loMKwitntA
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>>153089325
this episode felt way better than the older ones. What changed?
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>>153089386
Have you ever thought that maybe Cell's personality is what Goku's personality would be like if he didnt hit his head?
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>>153089487
>implying he will
What a ningen
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>>153089430
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>>153089478
Team /fit/
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>>153089492
Series director
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>>153089492
the artstyle
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>>153089492
Goku got hurt by a bullet instead of Krillin, that changed
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>>153089426
Arrogant
Thinks he's a messiah
Can't handle criticism, blocks people who correct his mistakes
Can't handle his temper, gets into fights over everything
Reviews are absolute dogshit, he just gives a synopsis of what happened in the episode due to Herms' notes, doesn't even wait for the full synopsis or subs to come out just because he wants to be the first one out with a review
Acts like he knows japanese whenever he reads the titles of the episodes and just ends up looking like a cringey moron
Recently has started to clickbait
"yeah bro! Lol bro! Nice bro! Yeaaaah bro!"
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>>153089505
Evil goku would LITERALLY be Raditz
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>>153089462
>Uncle doing a chi spell beam struggle
>Jade steals the Dragon Balls from the main villain
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>>153089492

It's now following Toyo's storyboard. Loosely probably, but still an improvement.
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Leave Goku to us
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>>153089474
>why the fuck is Brolina with them instead of being with Universe 6?

Clown is a species smuggler. Took Brolina from U6 and the not-Beerus from whatever universe his species is from.
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You didn't listen
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>all these new characters introduced
>Going to die because Goku was bored
Fuck you Goku
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so obviously hit will job to ayy. LOL What we have been saying for months now, hit loses to a big bad crazy strong guy and now *gasp* how will Goku beat him?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????? how predictable
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>>153089505
Cell is made up of a bunch of other people, though. I doubt Goku as Kakkarot would have been like Freeza.
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"Dad... you've gone too far this time."
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>>153089426
Herms-babby.
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How does Daishinkan react to his daughter, Vados, being wiped along with Universe 6?
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>>153089478

Toyo will save us from the skinny menace.
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What is the meaning behind Ayy Might's Alien Red Ki?

Why is Goku covered in similarly red ki in the OP?
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>>153089550
So it's Toyo's fault that Goku's a fucking retard?

Really makes you think
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Leave brolina to me
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>>153089560
Probably the one Beerus belongs to, after all it was stated that you become a God of destruction, not born as one
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When did goku became obsessed with fights?
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>>153089573
>LOL
>?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????
>*gasp*
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>>153089612

Given that Goku is a retard in both the manga and the anime, i'd say it's Toriyama's fault.
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>>153089573
Actually, Broly will be the big wall, right until she loses to Goku in a super close match and she reveals the Ayy Lmao is stronger than she is.
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>>153089474
>fem-Broly was deemed too dangerous when she was born and was kept a secret
>the U6 Saiyans king decided to send her away to avoid any danger
>her space pod ended up in the Clown's universe
>Captain Ayy Lmao and his team found her
>they raised her as one of their own
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>>153089611
I WANT TO DO LEWD THINGS TO ZENO!
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>>153089426
Fucking who?
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>>153089628
When wasn't he obsessed with fights?
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>>153089474
Clown God Stole her from universe 6 when she was a baby

Hes a collector of Species that his universe doesn't have I.E Saiyans and Beerus and Champa's Race
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>>153089628

When he let Vegeta go after him and his bald friend butchered most of his friends just because he wanted to fight him again.
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>>153089600
I want to FUG Cabba!
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>>153089594
"I won't let you put Pan's life at risk, Dad.
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I don't even recognize Goku anymore. Will yesterday go down as the day a single episode changed Goku forever?
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>>153089539
Uses "jabroni"
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>>153089325
Can't wait to see him become the guy who jobs to show that Vegeta is very strong who also will job to leave the actual fight to Goku.
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>>153089489
That could be
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best girl incoming
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>>153089682
no. we have seen a point beyond this. with uub. he is identical to how he was
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>>153089667
Vegeta didn't kill anything besides his bald friend and a saibaman
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>Goku says "this isn't my final form
>to other characters fighting Goku is like fighting Frieza who always has some bullshit transformation that's insanely powerful
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>THAT FEEL WHEN TFW VEGETA WILL WIN THE TOURNAMENT FOR BRA

THAT FEEL
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so this... is the power... of funimation...
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>>153089682
that's how goku is supposed to be, not a literal retard but crazy nonetheless
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>>153089538
Goku clearly snapped after being hurt by a bullet. His body isn't invulnerable like silver age Superman, it's more like golden age Superman what mean strong bullets at short distances can hurt him but not kill him but still.
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>>153089596
Beerus will be killed during the events of the arc. The next storyline will be finding his replacement as the God of Destruction for Universe 7
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>>153089744
>that feel when Bra's first memories of her daddy will be of him jobbing to make Uncle Goku look stronger
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>>153089756
Toei has problems balancing literal retard and fighting junkie.
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>Zeno is innocent
But he has the blood of trillions of sentient beings, and also the shattered souls of as many, on his hands. Zeno literally wiped Future Gohan and others out of their afterlife.
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>>153089640
>>153089659
>she slept in the same room as Cabba
>She went mental because Cabba was always crying
>The king stabbed her and threw her because she was too strong
>She survived
>Now she will be obsessed and go apeshit when fightning cabba

POTTERY

Please make it happen
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>>153089686
Excuse me?
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>>153089628
He always was, but usually he also had other priorities in his mind and wasnt ONLY about fightning.

But now in Super it simply seems like he is almost mad about how much he wants to fight, its like his urge to fight is getting out of control.

There's a difference between
>sparring a defeated but extremely powerful enemy so you can have a good fight later
and
>risking all the damn universes because of a good fight.
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>Goten wants to go train with Beerus and Whis
>Chi-Chi says no

Well they just masturbated all over the idea of Super Saiyan Blue Gotenks and then just as quickly took it away.

Thanks, Toei.
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>>153089775
Beerus won't die Toriyama likes him too much
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>>153089787
>Future Gohan
Was already dead even before Goku Black appeared remember? Was even shown in Future Trunks' flashback
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>Tracetaro
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>>153089816
>I can't get no satisfaction
>boredom turns into a stone
>I will blow Zeno away

GOKU STOP, YOU'RE GOING TOO FAR
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So how are you fags going to cope when the reality turns out to be the same stale shit as always

>Tournement arc
>A new transformation
>no consequences for Goku's retardation
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>>153089744
>ywn have a qt saiyan-bulma gf dominatrix
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>>153089599
All the Angels are his children and he's lost some already so he probably wont care if Vados dies
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>>153089843
NO ONE LIKES GOTENKS
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>>153089773
Nah it's just Toei being retards as usual.

Ever heard of plot induced stupidity?
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>>153089897
>t. Toriyama
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>>153089874
DBZ WAS ALWAYS SHIT HOW DARE UO SAY BAD ABOUT DB SUPER
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>>153089862
That is not what he meant
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If they had to somehow fit Broly into the canon with this girl appearing now. Would before the Cell games be fine?

I think it fits, the rest of the movies can stay non-canon
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>>153089897
>tfw even Piccolo thinks Gotenks is a retard
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>>153089864
>2017
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>you now realize Cuckataro has to fit in SSBKK into his shitty fanfic manga because he was too autistic to include it the first time around
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>>153089628
When he Met Master Roshi
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>>153089787
Zeno is pure and innocent in the same Asian way Goku is pure and innocent. He has no malice or bad intentions, he's like a very small child and see the entire existence as a box full of toys. Pic related
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>>153089916
No, Broly can fuck off and die.

However, I welcome our canon Legendary Super Saiyan mistress.
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>>153089843
Based Chi Chi
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>>153089874

Well, that's what i expect so i wouldn't be disappointed, but for what it's worth, they said the same about the Zamasu arc, and there were consequences, everything and everyone got fucked and now there's 2 zenos in the current arc.
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>>153089916
Not really, because you'd have the characters just fucking off for an unknown period of time and just leaving Earth to Cell undefended. Broly seems to take place in a timeline where Cell was killed before he became Perfect.
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>>153089550

You mean how Toyo followed the storyboard for the episodes?

It's fuck all to do with that. The series director is different now and that's all. Toyo is literally half an arc behind so far.
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>>153089916
They haven't met him yet. He will be the key to defeat this new villain Goku.
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Why do all of you hate hail zeon? What has he done to you?
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>>153089612
He outsmarted Beerus this episode though with the button scene. He's just reckless which isn't new. It's just this time it's not working out nicely for him.
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>>153089903
Just following the canon. Goku's skin is harder than humans but he isn't invulnerable unless he's on guard but he has problems at that
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>>153089980
>hail zeon
Fucking zeeks.
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>>153089550
>It's now following Toyo's storyboard.
Cucktaro is still in the Black Arc, sorry.
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>>153089816
This.
Every time goku did something akin to that, it was more him being arrogant and saying that it doesnt matter because he would just beat the guy again.
But here? its straigth up madness.
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>>153089931

fuck off and stop trying to ruin a decent thread, faggot
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>come to King Kai's planet to meet Goku
>threaten to destroy it
>Goku ends up destroying it so you don't have to

brilliantly played by bills
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>>153089970
>because you'd have the characters just fucking off for an unknown period of time and just leaving Earth to Cell undefended

The first Broly story could have be finished in the span of 2 days. Thats not too long
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>>153089489

That was a surprisingly cool and well animated battle.
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>>153089943
Only a rotten child destroys their toys.
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>>153089995
That bullet barely gave him a scrape anyway
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>>153089903
I think they just directed that scene badly. Ir's clear he was meant to be hurt by a surprise attack, like in RoF, only it's a bullet so it doesn't penetrate his skin. The issue there is that they actually show him reacting to it.
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>>153089474
Technically we still don't know if she's with them. All that was done to connect them is showing her in a quick group shot with those three, but we don't know if the fighters shown are all supposed to be from the same universe or mixed around, like how clown god shows up in a different shot than the Harley angel.
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>>153089791
naw she's already going to yell Goku's Name for Dooming the Multiverse
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Does Dragonball have the stones to actually move forward with the "Goku is a selfish twat who gets called out by everyone on his dumb decisions and gets his shit pushed in" thing or am I being memed?

I'm really fed up of this fucking retarded hick now, why couldn't Beerus just fucking delete him?
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>>153090007
>Toeishill not knowing how Toyotaro works
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>Months of OURGUY
>yfw Gohan legit beats the shit out of Goku for being a universe-tier threat
>yfw clown god kills one of the zeno bros and beats the shit out of Beerus for not ending Goku
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>>153089816
Super is about Goku's middle age crisis.
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>>153090073
Everything post-namek was a mistake, I'm just here for the ride
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>>153090087
Enough discaty video's for you
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>>153089868
I wanna Laugh like Crazy

Who Laughed when he blew plants up Goku ?

Kid Buu Your becoming like Kid Buu my man
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>>153089325
Is Gohan going to have his uniform have Piccolo's symbol instead of the turtle school?
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>>153090077
He works rushing arcs because he is too slow to keep up with the anime.
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12 UNIVERSE SPIRIT BOMB
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>>153090007
>Cucktaro is still in the Black Arc, sorry.
The first teaser for this arc showed manga art for it drawn before January.
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>>153090024
I find it really hard watching the dub knowing that they won't even get to U6 until at least August.
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>Monkey, would you mind washing this for me?

what did Whis mean by this?
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>>153089897

I don't understand why fusion turns Gotenks into such a little assmunch.

I mean, I get why Goku/Vegeta fusions do. They're assholes.

But Goten is a good kid. Trunks is a bit of a shithead, but even then Goten's influence should mellow him out.

Initially the idea was that they were "playful" and "immature" because they were kids, but they just straight turned Gotenks into a meme.
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>>153090044
how about the 1:50 mark where goku has hair on his face
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>>153090146
Promotional material, just like the anime had. The anime had animation before the manga released anything else, and Cucktaro is still nowhere near ending the Black Arc.
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Am I going crazy or is Goten starting to be not retarded?
It seems like he is growing to be not a retarded bumpkin like the rest of his family.
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>>153089970
That Makes Goku seem even more evil

Fucks off to fight Broly while the planet is in danger from cell
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>>153089672
Calm down Vegetta
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>>153090136
>H-he's still in the Black arc!!
>H-he's rushing arcs!!

Make up your mind cute Toeishill
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Worst dub since Big Green.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zB6jwpKd8E
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>>153090170
In Dragonball Fusions, Pan attempts to make Kid Trunks fuse with Cell Games Gohan thinking that it'd result in a better Fusion than Gotenks... but somehow he ends up even more arrogant and attempts to defeat Beerus, only to be almost killed.
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>>153090170
don't underestimate how much of an absolute shit character Kid Trunks is.
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>>153090131
Looks like his gi is the one without a symbol, like what he wore when he fought Super Buu.
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>>153090212
He rushed the entire first part and will probably skip one return to the past.
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>>153090204
Goku and Vegeta didn't even know about Broly until they got to New Vegeta. Goku was investigating what happened to South Galaxy and Vegeta was going on a field trip with Paragus to his new kingdom
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>>153090215
>Worst dub since Big Green.
Big green is best dub though.
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>>153090215
Still better than the original z dub
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>>153090198
>ChiChi, a god tier mother who loves her family more than anything in the world
>Gohan, a worldly scholar who is the strongest character in the universe
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How does it feel that Goku hates you?
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>>153089744
About as likely as Krillin winning the tournament.
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Watched episode 5 in dub.

Is it me or they even further improved animation? Meaning it went from absolute disaster to just kind of bad.
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>>153090248
>Skipping filler

/ourguy/
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>>153090198
I feel bad for Goten, he's the perfect version of Goku and yet he's treated like shit
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Goku's really succumbed to his Saiyan battle lust, hasn't he? If only there was a way to make him unable to fight ever again.
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>>153090275
After this episode he has no right to talk about people doing stupid stuff
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>>153090170

>I don't understand why fusion turns Gotenks into such a little assmunch.

Because that's his gimmick. Toriyama made him to be a little humorous egotist.
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>>153090253
Still Invesgating what happend to south galaxy = looking for a fight
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>>153089401
Captain Ayy Lmao looks pretty based.
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>>153090198
Goten is a pretty smart kid. Not meme scholar smart like Gohan was but he's like Goku if Goku had any sense of acting like a normal person in a social environment.
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>you can create millions of omnipotent beings just by using time machine a lot
really makes you think
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Japs/TOEI stop wanking over Goku and relegating him to secondary character status while elevating everyone else fucking when?

I'm tired of people being in Goku's fucking shadow
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Reminder that the tournament was Zeno's idea, it would have happened eventually.
Goku is a retard for reminding him, but still.
This is all Beerus and Champa's fault.
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>>153090339

>Now neither of us will be virgins
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>>153090283
yes because they used the blue rays in which they polished the animation/art
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>>153090292
>tfw he will have to include the canon SSB Kaioken now
How does it feel Cucktaro shill? Wasn't he supposed to be ahead too? Wasn't SSB supposed to be the SPECIAL TRANSFORMATION IT NO JOB IN MANGA THAT WHY HIT JOBBED XD? Why did it job to a SSJ2 then?
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>>153090351
when you stop being a fucking retard
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>>153089401
Does anyone else get All Might or Mirio from MHA vibes from him?
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>>153090283
I heard the dub is using the blu-ray version of super so that might be it.

>>153090265
Say what you want about them, but don't pretend like they are not a bunch of country bumpkins who are a bit lacking in common sense.
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So this fat bitch is the U6 equivalent of Buu, isn't she? Since it's a mirror universe it by all rights should have an equivalent to a universal primordial abomination like Buu, and she has very similar design motifs. Would also explain why she's strong enough to be Vegeta's rival this arc.
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>>153090275
>Literally endangered two realities, and got one of them destroyed, while the other being where he and his friends and family live.
Goku is the LAST person to lecture anyone about stupid decisions.
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has anybody shopped Ayyy into the "Hit is my rival now" pic?
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>>153090351

>I'm tired of people being in Goku's fucking shadow

Dragon Ball is the Goku show. Everyone relies on him
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>>153090302
That's easy, just force him to use the Kaio-ken one more time.
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>>153090389
Will her name be Majin Buuby?
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>>153090197
>Promotional material, just like the anime had.
Promotional material for the anime wouldn't need stuff like Speech balloons, or zooming in smaller panels. Ir's very unlikely that was drawn just for the anime promo.

We also have that interview where he talked about how in the next arc he'd be sending information to Toei.

>Cucktaro is still nowhere near ending the Black Arc.
We don't know how fast is Toyotaro's actual output though. He might be able to make manga storyboards for the tournament arc in addition to finishing the current manga chapters.
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>>153090435
Will that break his brain or give him a psychological aversion to fighting?
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>>153090334
Say what you want about kid Trunks but Goten haning out with him did him good.
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Why are these potential vegeta/goku rivals in the other universes looking lackluster compared to hit
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>>153090475
It'll leave him cripple for the rest of his life.
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>>153090198
Goten is being teached proper manners and how to live in society, something Goku never had with the only exception of Roshi teaching just the most basic shit so he could at least function in some way.
That's the difference.

Remember when Goku actually used to greet people before a fight out of respect?
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>>153089401
>just a swole grey alien
good design
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>>153090370
>SSB Kaioken
>More filler

Kek
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>>153090283
They're using blue-rays. But even in those the RoF retelling was basically left intact so I'm not excited.
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>>153090510
Ayy Might looks cool.
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How long is the filler? When does the actual universe tournament arc start?
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>>153090488
>goten is so stupid he has to wear a shirt with his name on it
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>>153090528
Thank you Captain Ayy Lmao
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Goku being so bored and wanting to fight strong opponents so much that he slowly turns into a menace

>His Smile in the opening when he's surrounded by the crimson Aura

>The lyrics of the Opening are about Goku being bored
"I can't get no satisfaction''
"boredom turns into a stone"
" I wanna Laugh like Crazy"
"I will blow Zeno away"

>Gets Zeno to hold The tournament Power Where universe are going to be destroyed

> The Parallel of Goku and Raditz

> Beerus openly states that Goku is getting too dangerous and completely out of control and seems to want to kill him in 78's preview

>Goten finally getting stuff like show how smart but carefree he is even wanting to train with Whis remember Toriyama only created goten to "replace goku" in the Buu Arc

>Ayy Lmao's team being the Major fight it seems they look like superheroes with the matching outfits
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>>153090532
Good times
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>>153089773
people forget that Goku isnt magically bulletproof, his body is just more resistant than normal
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>>153090549
anyone edit this to look like goku black yet?
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>>153090510
>hit

Literally a purple Piccolo with a head shaped as a dick
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>>153090461
>Promotional material for the anime
Promotional material for the arc, we had that from the anime before Cucktaro promo. Then we got animation and new characters after Cucktaro promo, while Cucktaro still has nothing.

>We also have that interview where he talked about how in the next arc he'd be sending information to Toei.
Yeah and yet we are now seeing he is still behind. Talked a lot, couldn't back up his talk.

>He might be able to make manga storyboards for the tournament arc in addition to finishing the current manga chapters.
He accepted the anime was far ahead of him, why would that change? Did he get a time machine now?
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>>153090528
Thank you Captain Ayy Lmao
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>mfw ayylmao is the good guy
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>>153090510
Hit looked lackluster until he actually fought. Just a purple rehash of Meta-Cooler with a penis on his head
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>Goku's getting hurt by handgun bullets
He was tougher when he was 12, Bravo Super.
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>>153090528
thanks captain ayy lmao
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>>153090535
>More filler
See >>153090549
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>bulma is pregnant again

What will Vegeta name his new child?
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>>153090510
Ayy Lmao looks better then Hit
Beerus Race Looks better then Hit
Fem Broly looks better then hit

All of Clown God's team look better then hit
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>>153090528
thanks captain ayy lmao
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>>153090607
Just because he can endure them doesn't mean they can't hurt him.
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>>153090624
Vegeta the 3rd
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>>153090275
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>>153090624
BRA
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>>153090540
>not having wearing clothes with your name on it.
Do you even Dragonball /fa/?
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>>153090623
Yeah, Goku is a retard, and?
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>>153090607
It was a bullet filled with magical hatred
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what does Ayy Lmao look like? can anybody give me the quick rundown?
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"4" sounds the same as "death" in japanese, isn't it? Do you think Universe 4 will have any sort of special theme? That creepy-looking GoD could be from U4.
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>>153090607
It was been 40 years since goku was a child.
Gun technology has improved.
The armor piecing potential and increased velocity of the shot make it so it has an effect even on someone with a body as tough of Goku's.
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>>153090607
Literally first chapter.
Didnt even leave a scratch.
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>>153090549
Goku was merely pretending to be retarded all these years

>>153090624
Did you even read EoZ?
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I hope the ending of the Multiverse tournament gets a movie
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>>153090680
The "transformation" in the OP is clearly Kaioken, for now at least. We had SSG in the OP before SSB in the first OP too.
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>>153090539
we're getting a U9vsu7 mini-match cause Future Zeno wants to see Goku fight, so probably around 3 episodes until the actual tourney starts
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Can someone post Vegeta turning oozaru for Bra
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>>153090685
>four sounds like death in Japanese
>Goku is how you say four in Chinese
>Goku is associated with the four stars dragon ball

COINCIDENCE?
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>>153090024
>bills
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>>153090567
I always liked the "if you don't see it coming and actively deflect it, ordinary attacks can hurt them" aspect of the series.
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>>153089489
This was one of the first things Super has done that I genuinely liked.
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>>153090705
>Did you even read EoZ?

Inb4 "EoZ is getting retconned xD" meme
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>>153090739
Is he a fan of Huey Lewis and the News?
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>>153090705
no otherwise i wouldnt have asked
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>>153090549
DBZ deconstruction
we /Evangelion/ now
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>>153090766
It already effectively was. There's no point to meeting or training Uub anymore.
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>>153090685
No, that's shi.
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>>153090582
>Promotional material for the arc, we had that from the anime before Cucktaro promo.

What we saw were manga panels. You're claiming they weren't actual manga panels but just promotional art.

>Yeah and yet we are now seeing he is still behind.
The anime still hasn't reached those panels we saw though.

>He accepted the anime was far ahead of him, why would that change? Did he get a time machine now?

We saw that he drew pages of this arc months before the arc actually starts in the manga. Why do you think that it's impossible that he drew more? Especially when we have an interview where he said he'd be getting ahead?

Nothing was ever said about the manga's publication which is irrelevant here.
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>>153090553
>>153090532
I seriously miss that. I will always dislike how much Super butchered Goku's character. He doesnt even do the iconic strecthing before a fight anymore.
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>>153090218
I don't recall that. Is it in the post-story? And it sounds unlikely, given Gohan's everything.
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>>153089377
I apologize Zamasu-sama
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>>153090825
That's why I like Goten, he's like everything Goku used to be
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>>153089489

>if you close your eyes you can only hear Goku and ChiChi talking
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>>153090607
See>>153089903
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>>153090510
Hit looks like shit, he looks like a lazy version of Cell.
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>>153090825
Butchered or evolved it. He's a villain now anon just non of his friends see it but The Gods

See >>153090549
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>>153089489
>Gohan goes Super Sayian
Why?
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>>153090830
Yeah, it's a post story event triggered when talking with Gohan in Satan City. I already actually had fused him before activating it, but I don't know if that's necessary.
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>>153090800
But I thought the Zamasu arc was already /EVA/ enough, what with the ending and all
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>>153090802
>Goku
>Not training a kid with Buu's potential when Freeza surpassed Blue with only 4 months of training
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>>153090802
Beerus is going to lock Goku/Vegeta's God ki and erase their memories as punishment.
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I don't think Goku will turn ''evil'', but I think he'll be taught a lesson about his insane drive for strong opponents
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>>153090800
>deconstruction

The edgy kind, or the legit critical analysis kind?
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Captain Ayy Lmaoo a cute
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>>153090862
Its why I hate Goten

he is clearly a Kid Goku clone to appeal to the original Dragonball fans, down to his design

Its a cheap nothing character and its why most people dont like him
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>>153089325

Let's analyze Gohan's spineless faggot tendencies. First of all the only father figure he had growing up Piccolo who has no social life so there's no model for behavior there as far as being a man in society. Secondly his dad is not only borderline asexual (probably just got raped by Chi Chi twice to make the kids) but he's also an absentee "cool dad" type who shows up every few years with laser beams coming out his fucking palms and weird looking alien goons following him around talking about galactic wars and shit. We know Chi Chi domineered him into being a doormat desperate for her approval and helicopter mom'd him into being risk averse unless somebody murders his dad.

He can’t even make a move on a fucking girl. It’s no wonder he freezes up when he sees Videl walking around in yoga pants with handlebar hair dying to get pounded out by a man with more integrity than her father. He has no idea how to deal with the side of women he's never had access to. Videl has to give in and make the move herself, forever diminishing her respect for him as a masculine sexual being and justifying her quick descent into a plain-looking housewife with no edge or spunk anymore. Her and his mother practically molded him into a fucking salaryman.

Now assuming Toei doesn’t want Super to devolve into anything more goofy and convoluted than it already is, there’s no reason to expect Gohan to be anything more than a faggot in a track suit unless something on the level of a baddie murdering Piccolo occurs to sufficiently enrage him. But why even do that? Vegeta, Trunks and (even) Goku are immensely more interesting characters nowadays that Gohan. He’s basically like one of those rpg harem anime MCs now, except he doesn’t conveniently do cool shit when he needs to.

Gohan is filler.
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How weird would it be if Goku actually did become the villain?
I know it'll get spun around and there will be no consequences for his retarded actions, but if he really did have to live with the possibility of every other universe getting destroyed because he just wanted to fight, what would happen?
No super dragon balls deus ex bullshit, no changing Zeno's mind, and no Whis asspulls.
It'd be interesting but since this series is just fanservice, they'll never do anything to develop Goku further or give his actions any weight.
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>>153090862
>If goku stayed dead in the buu saga we would have a Goku that has common sense.
Do we live in the wrong time line?
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>>153090624
Trunks 2.
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Heard you've gotten yourselves into some deep shit, ningen.
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>>153090800
>tfw Super has a congratulations ending with Goku in the middle
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>>153089995
He didn't know what a gun was when he was shot when he was 12. He also couldn't manipulate chi too much, so he had no magic chi barriers.

Goku was bulletproof in chapter 1.
He got much, much tougher since. The only stupidity here is Toei's.
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>>153090929
What does the original post tell ya about which one its going to be
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>>153090960
If Goku stays dead then every one else is dead
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>>153090532
>Remember when Goku actually used to greet people before a fight out of respect?
He did that with hit

>>153090802
Uub was mentioned in episode 30
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I wish they'd give good explanation as to how ningens in other universes managed to achieve god-level powers.

I mean, U6 has everyone be around Cell level, except for Hit who is stronger than SSB for some reason. How did he do that when nobody else in his universe is even close to him? And now we have Ayy Might who also keeps up with SSB Goku.
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>a single episode made you feel uncomfortable about Goku
>a single episode made you seriously start considering him as a villain

this is great
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>>153090929
Of course it's going to be the edgy melodramatic kind anon.
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>>153090818
>What we saw were manga panels
We saw promo art.
>You're claiming they weren't actual manga panels
Because that's what they were? Where is the rest of the manga again?

>The anime still hasn't reached those panels we saw though.
It's going to reach it next episode? That's the promo art for the arc, it's only showing the beginning of it, nothing of relevance was actually shown, in fact the anime has already shown Gods and Fighters while the promotional art gave nothing.

>We saw that he drew pages of this arc months before the arc actually starts in the manga.
We saw he drew promotional material because he was ordered to do so for the upcoming arc that Toriyama was talking about and had to deliver for December.

>Why do you think that it's impossible that he drew more?
Because he is not even done with the current arc? You are speculating here, no facts. The only fact is that the cuck is still behind.

>Especially when we have an interview where he said he'd be getting ahead?
Is he ahead? No he is not. Don't twist his words now, he said he would be ahead and he is still clearly behind.

>Nothing was ever said about the manga's publication
It was, he said he would be ahead and he is not, deal with it Cucktaro shill.
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>>153090951
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>>153091006
Honestly? The former.
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>>153090921
>Training a kid who can at best become as strong as Buu except with no regeneration or magic at best when he has gods of destruction, angels and who knows what else to fight

Please. Even if they say the EoZ is still canon, Super will have effectively made it stupid retroactively.
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>>153090926
According to Toyotaro, Toriyama is still clinging to the idea of connecting Super with EoZ so maybe Goku will receive a wake up call and chill down until Uub arrive for later moving on into becoming a teacher.
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Guys, remember how great the start of the Zamasu arc was?

We all know they're gonna fuck it up.
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>>153090818
>Working on the manga AND the anime

OUR GUY
U
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G
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>>153089744
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>>153090951
Tl,dr
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>>153091029
>there are no villains or battles in other universes
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>>153090933
Can you please stop calling him captain ayy lmao, call him Alien Warrior instead
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>>153090941
That's why I like him in EoZ, and a bit now in super: he may looks like Goku but he has his own personality. It's nice.
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>>153091024
>Uub was mentioned in episode 30
Yes, but there's no point in training him anymore.
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>>153091074
Vegito vs Merged Zamasu is the best fight in Super yet tho.
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BRA FUCKING WHEN?!?!?!?!?
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>>153091029
>I mean, U6 has everyone be around Cell level, except for Hit who is stronger than SSB for some reason. How did he do that when nobody else in his universe is even close to him?
He's 1000 years old
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>>153091029
>I mean, U6 has everyone be around Cell level, except for Hit who is stronger than SSB for some reason. How did he do that when nobody else in his universe is even close to him? And now we have Ayy Might who also keeps up with SSB Goku.
You do realize we only have 2 fighters in U7 that are god level, don't you? Everyone except Gohan and Buu is also below Cell.
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>>153091066
Why even bother with Uub when anyone with saiyan blood can become a god by holding hands?
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>>153091036
>The only fact is that the cuck is still behind

Source?
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>>153091024
>He did that with hit
Yeah, but it was forced, goku used to do it naturally and in silence with a simple bow, because thats how his grandpa gohan teached him.
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>>153091106
If frieza can rape gohan with 4 months training, ubuu can do it in a month
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>>153091062
Isn't Uub as strong as Kid Buu to start with? I thought that was why Goku was so fascinated with him
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>>153090384

He's AYY MIGHT
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>>153091095
Sorry, but no. Grey aliens are ayy lmaos to 4chan, so Alien Warrior's 4chan name is Captain Ayy Lmao.
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>>153089611

it was cute that future Zenos wants to act simmetrically.
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>>153091074
>Guys, remember how great the start of the Zamasu arc was?
No.
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>>153091074
I loved it throughout.

Besides, majority has the problem with literally last two episodes.
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>>153089652
He wasn't as obsessed in the previous series.
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>>153091029
>Hit who is stronger than SSB for some reason
>How did he do that when nobody else in his universe is even close to him?
>Ayy Might who also keeps up with SSB Goku.
It's ningen logic, they ain't gonna explain shit
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>>153091124
kill yourself pedo
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>>153091154
The fact that he is still in the Black Arc? That means he is behind.
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>>153089492
It was comfy as fuck, showing good stuff
>Chichi's vegetables are well known
>Goku delivers it showing interaction with a community
>Goku fighting crime a la Great Saiyaman
>Goku wanting to train
>Goten showing signals of wanting to train
>Goten is what a well adjusted Goku could be so that's interesting
>Goku offering the only means for training to Bulma as a gift but Goten then reminded him and Bulma understanding the situation
>Trunks cucking Goten of God Ki(Kid Trunks a shit)
>Vegeta worrying about Bra
>a fuck load more stuff
I know Goku the villain will get to meme status by next week but so far I see plenty of good stuff
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>>153091050
Hmm I think so
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>>153090951
>He can’t even make a move on a fucking girl. It’s no wonder he freezes up when he sees Videl walking around in yoga pants with handlebar hair dying to get pounded out by a man with more integrity than her father. He has no idea how to deal with the side of women he's never had access to. Videl has to give in and make the move herself


Videl wants you wonder about your chances with her for a few weeks. A sideways glance here and there, a snarky comment when you demonstrate deep ki harnessing knowledge, asking her how you like girls' hair and then cutting it to see how you respond. Then the moment comes where she calls you out for watching her tits jiggle during today's flying lesson. You almost retreat at her uncouthness but before you know it she's shoved you on the couch and began devouring your face with weeks of pent-up frustration at your lack of initiative. Stroking your hardness over you pant leg, she takes her shorts off grinds her toned ass into your lap while deriding you for being such a pussy. She tells you to look her in the eye if you're a real man and without breaking the stare she begins bouncing on your ever-expanding flesh obelisk while listing off all her grievances with you, like she's your mom or something. Suddenly your childhood makes a little more sense. You feel closer to you father, and understand why he wasn’t around as much when you were little.
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>>153090830
>sounds unlikely, given Gohan's everything.
Really Gohan does have a track record with getting high on his ownpower and bloodlust.
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>>153089325

>Please Goku stop fucking around with Zenos and other gods
>Thanks to Goku now there are 2 fucking Zenos and all the universes are endangered

Goku needs a pill of reality.
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so do you think Goku will become the next God of Destruction and be like Beerus just going around destroying shit cause its his job?
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> watches the preview
> the thing about destroying all the losing universes was true

God fucking damnit Goku, Trunks' universe wasn't enough?
And fucking Kame/Tien/Kriling are in the team? Just call back future Trunks and resurect Frieza and Cell holy shit.
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>>153089594
Bring it on, son
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>>153091151
Because Goku's sons are failures and in-context it'd be about passing the torch for the next generation for real this time. Just trying to make sense why Goku turn heel on the latest episode.
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>>153091062
>who can at best become as strong as Buu

Headcanon, Toriyama can make him as strong as he wants, just like with Freeza
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>>153091077
Couldn't even work on AF and the Heroes manga at the same time, Toyocuck.
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>>153091095
>Alien Warrior

Where are you from?
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>>153090725
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>>153091074
I honestly loved it from start to finish.
WORLD OF ZAMASU and Zen-chan DELET was great ending was great.
>>
So, let me get this straight.

We all know Dragon Ball is stupid. Is poorly written. And is for kids.

What makes us spend hours discussing this shit, seriously kill me
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>>153091298

Because It's fun
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>>153091291
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>>153090549
>Goku being so bored and wanting to fight strong opponents

So he is turning into Saitama?
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Seriously, why the FUCK didn't they revive Frieza?

It would have been better if they ignored RoF completely and had Frieza turn Golden in the torunament.
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>>153091226
Learned it from his father
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post qt dragon ball youtubers
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Beerus clearly thinks Goku is a problem but Whis keeps training him anyway when he is aware he is fucking around with Zeno and endangering everything

Is Whis training Goku replace Beerus as GoD?
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>>153091317
Source for him going further than that?
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>>153091116
Vegito vs Zamasu was better than Vegito vs Buu
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>>153091298
Nostalgia
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>>153091074
Zamasu arc had a promising first episode, became quickly worse, recovered pretty well in the middle and then shit the bed with the climax and the ending
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>>153091327
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>>153091228
>>153090549
>"Goku was a mistake." - Akira Toriyama
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>>153091255
fuck off you shitskin sympathizer
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>>153091336
Trusting Frieza not to kill their entire team is even more retarded than what Goku did in this episode
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>>153091298
you can go and see steven faggorsity.
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>>153091151
Because fuck the Saiyans. The end of Z arc actually did something different and Tori finally realized how stupid it is to solely rely on a race that's going to die out. Let some other Earthling or alien get their time to shine.
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>>153091372
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>>153091336
Yeah Im sure Goku , Gohan , Piccolo, and Krillin especially would be fine teaming up with Freiza

and its not like Freiza would have an autistic meltdown and betray them or anything

Honestly why do people think Freiza teaming up with them would be a good idea, he is a complete spast
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>people complaining about the loser's punishment
don't you understand that it is the only way to make everyone fight to their fullest?
without this most of the fighters would just half ass it like in the U6 vs U7 tournament
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>>153091327
I guess Bra liked to play with a man's tail since she was just a lil' girl le lenny face.jpg
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>>153091397
Frieza is scared shitless of Beerus tho
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>>153091332
Saitama hasn't doomed the 12 universe so no
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>>153091196
>First Trailer had panels from the manga
>Behind
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>>153091417
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>>153091409
Who the hell's Steven?
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>>153089325
Will Goku face any karmic justice or comeuppance whatsoever over being responsible for billions if not trillions of deaths?
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>>153091036
>Because that's what they were?
Why would promotional art be drawn like a manga? We've seen Toyotaro drawing promotional art, and none of it has been mimicking a manga aside from that trailer.

>Where is the rest of the manga again?
With Toei? I don't think you understand this, but they don't need to wait for the official publication before receiving material if they're receiving it directly from Toyotaro like it was mentioned in that interview.

>We saw he drew promotional material because he was ordered to do so for the upcoming arc that Toriyama was talking about and had to deliver for December.
Oh, you mean he gave material straight to Toei without needing to publish it in the monthly manga first? How nice! That's what I've been talking about all the time. I'm grateful we can understand each other.

>Is he ahead? No he is not. Don't twist his words now, he said he would be ahead and he is still clearly behind.

He's still ahead, since the material we saw drawn is ahead of where the anime currently is, and that material is months old now.

>It was, he said he would be ahead and he is not, deal with it Cucktaro shill.
He said that he'd get ahead, not that the manga publication would get ahead. If he's drawing storyboards and sending them to Toei, even without a published manga, he'd be ahead.
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>>153091395
>>>/pol/
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>>153091458
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>>153091280
>Stopped giving a shit about AF fanfiction

How is our guy so based?
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>>153091237
> not wanting Tien on the team
He goes balls to the wall literally every time he appears.
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>>153091438
Didn't stop him from blowing up the Earth and killing everyone to get his revenge, even with Beerus right there
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>>153089568
Especially since it's clear Zeno would have genuinely forgotten about the tournament if he hadn't been reminded by Goku, as evidenced by Future Trunks' world.
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>>153091397
It won't be a problem when Beerus is around, and he'll understand even better when hearing about Zeno and the risks of the tournament.

Of course the whole idea of resurecting frieza would take in account that he won't act absolutely retarded.
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>best dad
>best husband
>best Z fighter
Why is Vegeta so based
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WAIT CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING

DRAGON BALL SUPER GOKU HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A 4TH ZAMASU THIS ENTIRE TIME JUST PRETENDING TO BE GOKU

HIS PLAN THE ENTIRE TIME WAS TO GET HIS BODY UP TO A LEVEL ABOVE GOKU FUSED WITH HIMSELF

HIS MASTER PLAN WAS TO GET TWO ZENOS INTO ONE UNIVERSE TOGETHER

THIS WAY THE ZENOS COULD EASILY GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH THEMSELVES

CAUSING ALL REALITY TO GET DESTROYED

AND HE

THE REAL ZAMASU

DRAGON BALL SUPER GOKU

AKA ZAMASU TRUE

CAN TAKE OVER AS KING OF ALL
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>>153091414
>a race that's going to die out.
Doesn't Dragonball online imply that every human is going to have Saiyan dna and that combined with the fact that Gohan published a "ki for dummies" book make the whole human race are basically becoming the saiyans 2.0 but not as savage?
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>>153091509
He's cool considering his strengh but he's far too weak compared to those three.
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>>153091516
Frieza would completely flip out, he's psychotic but he's also intelligent as shit being a warlord and a businessman.
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>>153091226
>gohan isnt a fighter
The truth is that all he needs is one more year with his father and no more years with his mother and he would become a true Saiyan warrior worthy of being proud of.
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>>153091470
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yer forgetting somethn importnt anons
gok a shit
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>>153091550
Jim Zamasu is dead leave it be
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How fucking great that Goku will gain a red form just as Gohan is finally getting serious about training and powering up to a new form.
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>>153091429

We are talking about two fucking Zenos that play a "destroying planets game" for fun and one of those destroyed a whole pack of universes just because Zamasu was annoying.
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>>153091550
Canonically Toriyama is strongest Dragon Ball character, though.

>>153091573
Why would ever post that?
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Tfw havent seen a thread move this fast in 2012-2015 one piece threads
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>>153091255
>Goku training the next multiverse killer
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>>153089744
>tfw Goku's stupidity put Bra's life at risk
I hope everyone gives Goku shit over this, not just Beerus.
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>>153091550
Zamasu was a mistake - Zeno
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>>153089401
>Rabbit-like Beerus being

Yup. God of Destruction is a literally literal title literally.
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>>153091409
What?
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>>153091570

He doesn't like to fight. When fighting against cell he wasn't only SSJ2, he was ANGRY, and we know Gohan loses full control of himself when he's angry.
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>>153089401
They are the galactic patrol from his universe

Thats why he look like jacob
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>>153091558
>he's far too weak
He's one of the only characters that NEVER stopped training, i'm sure he could beat cell by now.
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>>153091030
When I was younger my friend came over for the weekend and showed me Persona 3. He loved it and wanted to watch me play and beat it over the weekend. I never really played Japanese games but he's my bro and played it anyhow.

First 2 min into the game the guy who runs the dorm pushes up his glasses with a sheen to them.

>"He's the bad guy."
>"Dude wtf how did you know?"

You really don't need much to accurately predict when someone is bad in anime.
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>there will never be a time skip to when Goku finds Uub
>there will never be an Uub training arc
>there will never be another time skip to when Pan and Bra are older
>we will never get Pan and Bra SSjs
>we will never get Gotenks SSB
>we will never get anything we ever want
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>Android 17 returns

HYPE THRUSTERS ENGAGED!!!
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>>153091673
But thats a lie that he tells himself.
Gohan does like to fight, as proven during the babidi ship ordeal, even more by the fact that he really wanted to go 1v1 with Dabura.

This not fighter bullshit is just a excuse, Gohan knows that he enjoys being a smug overpowered cunt over villains.
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>>153089943
>He has no malice or bad intentions
Bullshit, he threatened to erase his own servants from existence for being worried about him.
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>>153091558
He'd be perfect for lower tiers in the tournament.

>>153091550
> universe 10 shows up
> everyone is actually a bodyswapped Zamasu, and Gowasu is unaware
> there are now 12 Zenos total
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>>153091711
Why do people like 17 ?
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>>153091692
Eat your Gokus, Apollo
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>>153091692
I like that some of these never happened in GT either, although it'd make sense for them to be there.

GT is garbage in every sense of the word.
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The most obvious swerve that wil 99% happen is that neither goku or vegeta will be in the finals.

So /a/, who gets to win this ebin tournament?

I have a feeling that its between Piccolo and Gohan.
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>>153091678
>Comparing Goku to some sub-boss in Persona game

Kill thyself
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>>153091095
ever heard of the Streisand effect?
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>>153089611
isn't that the SSJ4 ki?
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>>153091743
He had one of the best DBZ fights, I think.
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>>153091756
I'm telling you, man. Roshi is going to be this tournament's MVP
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>>153091030
I always uncomfortable with Goku ever since Toriyama's interviews revealed that Goku's mindset about relationships is completely different to most humans and is fact inline with the savage Saiyans. I mean, the man doesn't understand the concept of family and marriage.

To him, his wife and his sons have the same level of importance as Krillin, his best friend. Goku doesn't understand romance, and even Toriyama admits that Goku isn't a great father, because he's a Saiyans, and Saiyans usually don't raise their children.

It's pretty ironic that Vegeta, the prince of all Saiyan, actually understands and cares about being a good father and husband. He's more adapted to human culture than Goku is, who was raised as a human.
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>>153091729
>He'd be perfect for lower tiers in the tournament.

That's not how it works. And that's not the place to think about him just entering the tournament so that he can try to take low tier grunts that woul get rekt in seconds by other members of the team.
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>>153089401
I definitely think his "team" is composed of species that originally come from different universes, like Beerus' species and the Saiyan girl, if she's part of that team.
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>>153091743
self-insert
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>>153091743
He was smug
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>>153091743
He's a smug fuck and his fight was the shit.
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>>153091477
Judging by Dragonballs history

no

Vegeta and Piccolo both killed tons of people and both are just average dudes with no consequences now

Actually alot of Gokus friends are murderers

Yamcha was a bandit
Tien killed quite a few people for Crane
17 and 18 are literal killing machines
Buu wiped out tons of people and even turned them into his house and toilet (who didnt get turned back because they never died)


This only supports the Goku is a bad guy theory
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>>153091618
>Uub starts making jokes about destroying the universe like Kid Buu just to fuck with the rest a la Goku
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>>153091767
Ever heard of meta posting?
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>>153091724
Then he just wanted to show off in front of his dead father that he hadn't seen in years.
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>CAPT ayy lmao looks calm, collected but at the same time concerned at goku
>goku looks like he is going apeshit without consideration for anything
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>>153091743
in a world where people can shoot laser beams from their hands, theirs something harming about one of those laser people having such fondness for guns
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>>153090549
>The new anime japan olimpics ambassadors is going to turn into a bloodthirsty maniac that will threaten to destroy the universe and become the antagonist of his own show
Just like real japs
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>>153091340
those glasses dont help him look any cute
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>>153091783
But that doesn't fit now that Goku had his autistic breakdown when Zamasu told him he killed chichi and Goten
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>>153091743
He is hot.
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>>153091812
Even has the same laugh as kid buu
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>tfw the android 17 and piccolo partnership will be the MVP of universe 6
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>>153091570
Gohan's characterization stayed kinda consisten.
He never really like fighting as much as his dad, but he was kinda forced to fight during the saiyan saga and after the saiyan saga he trained and fought, because he is a good kid and has a sense of responsibility as one of the few guys who are strong enough to help.
He was pretty much fighting/training since he was 4 and he never knew any real peace untill he was 9 or 11, so as much as people want to give him flak for not training during the seven years of peace, I still think it is understandable for why he did that since almost his entire childhood was a constant bloodbath.
It would be interesting to see what kind of effects having a childhood like that would have on him, but I don't think DB is ever going to go that far.
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>>153091829
the fucker might be responsible for destroying his universe
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>>153091810
And of course, Beerus and Zeno are unrepentant genocidal monsters.
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>>153089505
Cell is an amalgamation of people so no.
But I sure as fucking hell know where Cell's tournament hosting genes came from.
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>>153091847
He killed my friends

He went super saiyan when freeza killed one of his friends so its the same deal
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>>153090549
well, if you think about it, if Goku wins to everybody, he practically is the responsible to kill and exterminate billons and billons of beigns in each universe
so, to the other universes, he's the bad guy to defeat
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>>153091454
>was ahead for a week
>back to being behind
Well, he didn't lie, he was ahead alright.
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Who is stronger? 17 or 18?
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Am I the only one who doesn't like the new tournament stage?

It's too dark. Almost like they made it that way just so they don't have to animate a background so they can focus on the fights.
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>>153091847
>Goku had his autistic breakdown when Zamasu told him he killed chichi and Goten

>his sons have the same level of importance as Krillin, his best friend
>the second death of Krillin is what set off his first super saiyan transform


I see no contradiction
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>>153091783
Maybe it ties into the fact that high class warriors can retain their minds in oozaru mode while low class warriors can't.
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>>153091870
Universe 7 dumbass
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>>153091724
Gohan only fights because of responsibility . He is not afighter at heart like the Manga stated
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>>153091618
>He just wanted Buu as a good kid to make him evil again

The madman
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>>153091942
#18 knows destructo disc
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>>153091847
But Gokus biggest autistic breakdown was when his BFF Krillin died and made him go Super for the first time
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>>153091942
manga said 17
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>>153091743

He was Black before Black was a thing, also one of the best fights in the series against Piccolo when Saiyans and Cell were temporarily not the strongest for once
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>>153091298
because bored as fuck
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>>153091943
>. Almost like they made it that way just so they don't have to animate a background so they can focus on the fights.
That doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. They can even come up with a half-assed excuse.
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>>153089715
>time kai
>relevant
NEVER EVER
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>>153090528
THANK YOU CAPTAIN AYY LMAO
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>>153091937
Thats what were saying
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>>153089401
>>153089401
>>153089401

Maybe all of the guys on this team are from other universes?

This guy looks like the announcer in the u7 tourney and even dress like him, the beerus race, the saiyan..etc
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Is Zeno the worst God to ever show up in any anime? He's committing omnicide over a freakin' martial arts tournament.
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>>153091780
>>153091789
>>153091793
>>153091794
>>153091868
>>153091839
>>153092011

Why do people hate this guy then??
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>>153090488
>EoZ Trunks will never be an alt outfit for Trunks in any of the games
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>>153092037
Zeno is far worse than the actual Demons we've seen in this series. The demons are evil, but Zeno surpasses them.
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>>153092047
Best part of GT.

Only decent part of GT actually
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>>153092047

Because GT.

Also because fusing with yourself is stupid.

Also because he got powered up by being shot with ki blasts and then OH NO IVE BEEN OVERLOADED BY TOO MANY KI BLASTS (EVEN THOUGH EARLIER ANDROIDS HAD UNLIMITED KI)
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>>153092036
Thats the theory Clown god is a Race Collector
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>>153091810
>Piccolo's dad
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>>153090549

What if the reason why Piccolo, Vegeta, 17, 18, Tien and Buu are all on this one is because they were all evil at some point and killed a bunch of people so the ayy lmaos are going to target all of them including the now out of control Goku as the biggest danger of the universe and try to stop them as the heroes they are.
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>>153092022
SHUT UP DEMIGRA SHILL!
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>>153090528
thanks you based captain ayy lmao
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>>153091981
>Gohan only fights because of responsibility
You know thats just a lie his mom and himself put on his head.
Gohan has Saiyan blood, he wants it but is in denial.
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>during the tournament, there's a frantic race across the universes to find the Super Dragon Balls so they can wish back universes that are destroyed
>everyone is panicking but mustering their courage in order to get it done behind the scenes
>Goku is shown not caring and just fighting in the tournament with a smile on his face as this is happening

Good way to get viewers to detest Goku.
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>>153092047
I don't hate him in particular. He's trash by proxy since all of GT is garbage. Puking on it would make it look only better.
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>>153089874
People said same thing about Black arc and not only were there consequences, current arc is happening as a direct result of one of the consequences from Black arc.
Chaos Theory is a bitch.
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>>153092083
Maybe thats Clown God lets him watch the exhibition match next episode so he can scout for info for his team
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>>153092047
Looks retarded, also he doesn't act like 17
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>>153090528
THANK YOU CAPTAIN AYY LMAO
pls kill Goku
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>>153091226
>>153090830
Gohan is a fucking sperg, whatever he happens to be doing he gets god complex about it. He has some serious autism.If you tell him he's the protector of earth and its last hope he will become the most arrogant shit ever and aim to be the strongest, if you tell him to study, he's going to fuck everything else and only study.
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Maybe Goku is having a middle life crisis
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>>153092107
Gohan would not endanger the safety of everyone he loves just for a fight. Goku has not only done that, he's endangered the lives of entire galaxies and universes.
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>>153092047

The way he died was stupid. His gimmick was absorbing energy to get stronger, but apparently he cant handle absorbing multiple ki blasts at once despite how pathetically weak they were compared to SSJ4 Goku, who killed him with rapid fire Kamehameha waves at BASE POWER.
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>>153091774
Isn't SS4 ki usually depicted as gold?
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>>153092175
I never said he would. Just that he does like to fight but is in denial.
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>>153092047
>17+17>SSj4

I STILL

DONT

FUCKING

GET IT
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So since Zeno likes Goku wouldn't it be enough if the latter asks him not to destroy all the losing universes?
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>>153092169
See >>153090549
He Is having one A Big One
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>>153089995
>DB
>Is in physical pain after getting shot

>DBS
>gets scrape that makes paper cuts look worse after fucking up a deflection

OMG TOEI FUKIN STUPID LOL
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>>153092047
I liked his design but his personality was nothing like regular 17 and the way he died was absolutely retarded

>SS4 goku can't hurt him
>base goku kills with a single punch and a kamehameha
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>>153091885
>Implying Super Gohan isn't schizophrenic with a massive case of PSTD and trying too hard to compesate his shitty childhood by trying to have a normal life with his wife and daughter, all played by laughs obviously
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>>153092217
It went 17^17 because Gero said fuck it.
>>
best OTP
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>>153092108
>>153092083
So basically our protagonists are going to be the bad guys of this arc? I like where this is going
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>This guy block your way.

What do you?
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>>153092229
Goku wont do that cause they wont get stronger
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>>153092217
17 x 17 = SSJ4.

Fusionlol.
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>>153092243
GT was just trying to have their own Piccolo Daimao moment.
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>>153092271
This isnt Videl.
What the fuck?
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>>153092108
It would be a GREAT premise, so it ain't gonna happen.
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>>153091332
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>>153092307
NTR is trending on japan now anon get with the times
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>>153090389
I want rule 34 of this bitch now.
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I really hope Zeno doesn't actually destroy universes that are eliminated and it's all just a lie to get them to take the tournament seriously

it's gonna be hard to like Goku or Zeno when they have the blood of 11 universes on their hands
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>>153092107
>n. Particularly, those Halflings born without tails hide an exceptional battle power. There are many things that they naturally master from a young age, such as the ordinarily arduous transformation into a Super Saiyan. In spite of having such an outstanding battle sense, they do not have a fondness for battle like a pure Saiyan. Instead, it seems that the violent temperament of the Saiyan has been relaxed through their Earthling blood.

Gohan did not want to fight/train as time went by
Goten did not want to fight/train as time went by
Trunks did not want to fight/train as time went by

They only fight because of responbility, but they would rather chill and live normal lives. Just watch Super when Trunks was jealous of Gohans life despite being a weak beta
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>>153092277
sorry i'm retard
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>>153092229
>Don't worry, even if your universe loses, you will be spared! You will get to live in the universe that won and train with the strongest in the multiverse in time for the next tournament!
>Oh, then that's OK then
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>>153092073
>Also because fusing with yourself is stupid.
Then why do people like this guy?
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>>153092271
Can't wait until Gohan and Cocoa's bastard offspring join the group
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>>153092011
>He was Black before Black was a thing, also one of the best fights in the series against Piccolo when Saiyans and Cell were temporarily not the strongest for once
fucking this
looking back I actually can't believe that at one point piccolo and 17 were the strongest characters

why the fuck did they stop scaling everyone after the cell saga???
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>>153092355
Because he's not a ningen
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>>153090528
THANK YOU CAPTAIN AYY LMAO
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>>153092351
> at the end of the series the only planet left the earth and every fights of all the universes are on it
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>>153092294

18 was stronger than Trunks/Goten in canon. 17x17 being powerful makes sense, but not SSJ4 level strong; maybe as strong as Ultimate Gohan if power wanking.
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>>153092355
They were technically the same person but in the end it was fusing the body of Zamasu and the one of Goku, totally different.
>>
>ITT: manchildren overthinking a kids show
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>>153092387
Dragon Ball became a victim of its own popularity and power level autists dictated the story

seriously, how many people bitched and moaned about Trunks being able to fight SSJR Black and Roshi being on the universe 7 team? They don't care about interesting fights or fun characters, they just want quantifiable power levels that they can fill a wiki article with.
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>>153092307
People kept memeing about Videl cucking Gohan, but because of the erasure of our green god of memes, meme magic became unstable and the opposite happend.
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>>153092355
not a ningen
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>>153092355
I don't, Black arc is cancer
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>>153092462
Anti Gohanfags are getting blown the fuck out left and right it's not even funny anymore
>>
videl needs to start twerkin on that dick to keep hubby around
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>>153092526
fuck off nigger
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>>153092510
>gohan is coming back guys! He will be the one to defeat black
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>>153092448
>too intelligent to enjoy a kids show
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>it's gonna be hard to like Vegeta when he has the blood of millions of life on his hands
That doesn't stop anybody
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I remember that there was a retarded wiki with all the fan-fiction stories with shit like SSJ25,Xicior, evil goku or garbage like this, does someone remember the name of it?
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>>153092047
no eyebrows.
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>>153092491
DELETE THIS
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merged zamasu vs ayy?
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>>153089401

Another Beerus cat? They shouldn't overuse that design.
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>>153092419
18 was stronger than 2 SSJ1s at the same time.

17 no sold Trunks and Piccolo with one hit each when they were at the same level without killing them.

If 2 SSJ1s fusing can beat Majin Buu then 2 17s can at least match SSJ3 Gotenks or higher. Not to mention his gimmick which he abused like fuck vs everyone who kept blasting him and making him stronger which included SSJ4 Goku doing his ultimate attack.

He had plenty of reasons to be the strongest guy around.

The problem was that base Goku ended up killing him while he was stronger than Syn Shenron was at first.
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>>153092081
Piccolo Jr. killed a lot of people too
>>
You can clearly see why Whis wants Goku as the new God of Destruction, they both have zero empathy as seen when they both said the exact same thing about Bulma, meanwhile Beerus is actually getting soft & worrying about the consequences of the tournament

Probably just a throw away gag, but it is interesting imo
>>
What if Mirai Zeno-sama is corrupted somehow and made the decision of destroying universes of the losing team?
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>I Hope the baby is ok
>No Kakarot I don't wanna go train today
>Please don't do something stupid

Vegeta's feelings when he finds out Goku doomed his unborn baby When ?
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>>153092462
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>Future Trunks is gone
>Put in a universe where he already exists
>Probably won't show up again

Why did they fuck him over?
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>>153092643
Those boobs want to be free.
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>>153092661
The Damage was done people don't like him anymore
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>>153092577
not comparable by any means c'mon

Vegeta is going to freak I tell you, he has a new-born child ffs and Goku just possibly doomed their universe.
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>>153089635
Goku isn't retarded like that in the manga.
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>Android 17 will probably say something along the lines of "Dr. Gero was right about you Goku" since 17 is the only one not riding the Goku cock train
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>evil goku

He's not becoming evil, he's just becoming the god of destruction
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>>153092639
How the prince of all three saiyans was ok to get the tail of his male born child cut off?
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>>153089439
I really hope those 5 are actually a team, they look cool together
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>>153092707

>18 does the same and Krillen totally follows her out of Goku's life after

Goku ruining the good things that the Z fighters have.
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>>153090540
He doesn't like people mistaking him for Goku.
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>>153092730
The tail gene is actually a recessive trait saiyans have.
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Did anybody notice bulmas lactating tits bigger than ever? I envy Vegeta
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>>153092639
I was never huge on Vegeta, but I have to say I reallky love Vegedad.
It is one of the few things that I liked about GT.
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>>153092727
The Most Dangerous one ever
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>>153092730
He is a Neet and a manlet, don't deserve any voice in the house.
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Leave Broly (female) to me.
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>>153092294
none of the super saiyan forms are actually impressive. elder kai was right when he said transforming is just vapid showmanship.
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>>153092585
I think this isn't, but close enough
http://dbaf.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
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I want to rub Bulma's fat belly!
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Ayy Lmao's ancestor confirmed
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>>153092776
Vegedad is such great character development for him. It really shows that he coulda been a great King
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This is hard to say in a opening with almost only action sequence, but ayy lmao doesn't look like a bad guy
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>>153092355
He's an autistic homosexual.
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>>153092872
Hes a superhero
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>>153092730
With Super Saiyan, the tail is useless
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>>153092782
>Most Dangerous
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>>153092865
Maybe it he just appeals to the tsundere fag in me, but that scene where he was mentoring Cabba was great.
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If they don't give Bra a lot of screen time in the future (whatever he role is), I will kill myself.

BRA >>>>>>>>>>>>PAN
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>>153092707
I just want 17 to call 18 by her real name to make Kirllen go What ?
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SUPPORT YOUR UNIVERSE

January U1
Feburary U2
March U3
April U4
May U5
June U6
July U7
August U8
September U9
October U10
November U11
December U12
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I wonder what gimmick Captain Ayylmao has.
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>>153092872
>The entire multiverse needs me i'm the only one who can stop Goku's madness
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>>153092950
but thats wrong you fucking slut
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>>153092943
I know the feeling anon that scene was great. I wanna see what Vegeta does when he sees fem broly.

Imma laugh if he imagines or thinks of what if bra becomes like that
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So does Goku become somewhat like Evil Ryu with his addiction of getting stronger?
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>>153089439
forgot fem buu
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>>153092952

GO UNIVERSE 5!

WHERE MY UNIVERSE 5 BROS?
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>>153092815
Oh my god, I will probably start schreeching autistically if there won't be any of Roshi's perv shenanigans.
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DURAGO-HUUUUM BORU SUPAH ZENO-SAMA NANANANANA
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leave Goku to me
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>>153092931
But he didn't knew that
>>153092814
>Vegeta is more of a neet than Goku
No no think about it
>>153092771
Citation needed
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>>153092950
Bra will atleast get a filler episode probably don't worry anon

>>153092952
Cool I get to see my universe next week
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>>153089492
New Director
New Artstyle
New Arc
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>>153093059
>mexican
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>>153092952
Universe 4 here, fuck goku and fuck universe 7 people
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>>153093026
she's part of champa's shitty team
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>>153093028
Right here bro. I wonder what our fighters will look like, you think our GoD is the delicious Brown?
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>>153093028
>not being Universe 10
Ningen scum.
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Having everyone being stuck in Goku's shadow may ultimately play out to be the best move for the series' end game.

Shit may end up with Goku pulling a Super 17, but whatever.
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>Goku will fight badass captain ayy lmao
>Vegeta will job against fat tumblr sjw
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>>153093060
Goku atleast is a farmer, Vegeta is just a gold digger
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>>153092952
>July U7
I win
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>>153093060

Reverse image search if you don't believe me.
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>>153092707
Now that I think about it, have 17 and Goku ever met face to face?
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>>153093104

Our God is the based Fox who will obviously have 9 transformations.
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>>153093060
>Citation needed
Kasenshuu
Where have you being senpai? This is 101 stuff
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>>153092952
>me: Universe 4
>brother: Universe 6
>mother: Universe 8

Damn. Whoever wins, we all lose
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>>153093087
I hope she is actually strong and not just a meme-tier character like the rest of champa's team
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>>153092348
That is why I felt like GT was a lost opportunity. For some reason the beginning of GT had this obsession with the Saiyan children and their coming of age. They were all portrayed as punks with attitude who distanced themselves from fighting and adventure. They would rather do normal teenage Earthling things like go out on dates or shop. The show takes time to say how far removed from their parents.

GT could have taken this a chance to be a story about putting back the "Dragon Ball spirit" into the new age by forcing Goten, Trunks, Pan, Bulla, and Marron to go make something of themselves. It would be interesting take for Dragon Ball to have a cast of people who AREN'T adventurous or addicted to fighting and putting them into classic Dragon Ball situations. It could provoke unique responses, comedic moments, and growths in strength. As the story goes on, they become more like their parents and carry on their legacy.

A Dragon Ball show without Goku playing a huge role sounds risky, but as a character Goku clearly isn't the best thing about GT or Super. Just throw him in as support. Perhaps instead of just Uub, Goku would find it his duty to see they all are prepared for the unpredictability of their crazy universe.

Instead they made Goku a kid again and half-assed an adventure with Goku, Pan and Trunks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKdmoPZZUWo
Goku is a fucking psychopath
Beerus, whos been painted as fucking evil is trying to stop him from potentially dooming them all and he's just like fuck it?
Holy shit, is there going to be actual character development about this or is goku just going to be lolsorandom the character?
>>
>>153093140
Vegeta is a dethrowned prince. Nobles never work, they marry wealthy industrialists for maintaining their status
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>>153093151
>>153093184
Well shit, that's pretty convenient to say the least
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>>153093160
I find this amazing, since the Fox is my favorite. Kitsune as too good. I hope that when he gets mad his power goes up and he sprouts more tails.
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>>153093156
Nope. Goku was sick until after 17 was absorbed
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>>153093234
Exactly my point, is a neet and a gold digger
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oh god goku's gonna turn evil and its gonna be up to vegeta to stop him

>vegeta
>stakes

we're fucking doomed
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Son Goku
You are under arrest by the power of Booze-sama's Elite Guard

Come with me Or I will have to Use force
>>
Leave Goku to me!
>>
>>153093380
>Vegeta
Not Captain Ayy Lmao
>>
>>153092952
wait is there confirmation for which team is which team?
>>
>>153092355
Zamasu a shit.
>>
>>153093380
Maybe Gohan, the fight between them maybe hinting at that
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>>153093380
Goku's never beat Vegeta in a straight fight
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>>153091787

Brollete is probably from U6, not the clownverse
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>>153091429
and in the end all the erased universes are going to be restored with the super balls.
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>>153093478
Wrong
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>>153093231
They are tight dude, what are you on, lmao.
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>>153090549
Honestly, if they are going with the "team that lose loses his universe" then i think they can't avoid resetting everything and wipe the minds of all the characters.
And i'm not saying this because of GT, but because EoZ wouldnt make sense otherwise
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>>153092573
>tf wend to intellgents too enjey dargon boll supre
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>>153093478
> not liking the probably unintentional gay undertones and constant FUCKING NINGEN GET OFF MY UNIVERSE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153093554
She's from U6 but she fights for Clownverse
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>>153092707
>the only reason 17 comes back is to finally complete his one mission, destroy goku
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>>153093613
>>153093613
>>153093613
>>153093613
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>>153093415
Actually.
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>>153089594

Bring it you little shit
>>
What if the fight with Zamasu fucked with Goku somehow?
>>
>>153092952
Universe 2 is best Universe.
>>
>>153093477
no but I have the feeling that the guy Goku is gonna have to face next week for the trial match is Captain Ayy Lmao meaning he and the Clown are from Universe 9
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>>153093669
Fuck You Piccolo is my Real Dad
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>>153093415
Forget Goku, please take out Zeno, he's the most evil entity in existence.
>>
>>153093563
But the Super Balls are spread through both Universe 6 and 7, so if one of them is destroyed, the Balls go up too and we know they can be destroyed because Zamasu did it.

If anything they might introduce the Dragon God that made them in the first place and he will put Zeno in his place.
>>
>>153093614
GT should have been a separate universe, have an SSJ4 Saiyan (Old Kai hinted he knew of another SSJ4 in GT) & reuse some of the other GT characters like Shadow Dragons & such

But nah we get Joker & Harley instead, fucking hell
>>
>>153092952
U9 reporting in.
So next week U7 is probably going to job against them, nice
>>
>>153093676
thats stupid

this seems more likely >>153090549
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>>153092217
Fusion isn't additive, it's multiplicative.
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>>153092661
He already exists in the main timeline too. He just wanted to live in a universe similar to the one he lost. Also he can always show up again in some other saga.
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>>153093478
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>>153092661
He and Mai wanted to see their friends and comrades again
>>
>>153092355
Two different bodies.
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>>153093745
But the only other universe with the saiyans is U6, and they already have the lssj form
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>>153093745
No thats stupid You wanna see Goku vs Goku that would be dumb

the only time You could see a canon SSJ4 is if we see the King of U6 Saiyans He'll probably reveal that he could do it all along and blow cabba's mind
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>>153092952
Filthy Ningen, I warned you but you didn't listen, now you reap what you sow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEZi1jkssk
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>>153091228
>yfw this scene turns out to be Beerus stressing out over the rulings but Goku just begins to cackle in glee
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>>153090528
THANK YOU CAPTAIN AYY LMAO
>>
>>153094128
>Isn't this so excitin'?
>Now everyone will fight at their best!
>>
>>153091942

17 said he was the strongest android. 18 didn't say anything to contradict him, though it did turn out 16 was stronger
>>
If the intro follows Goku's thought train, then he has officially lost it.
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>>153093710
I like how in TFS' Broly Abridged if you turned the subs on, when Piccolo appears the subs don't say Piccolo: Bla bla bla but Gohan's Dad: Bla bla bla
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Goku really doesn't understand the concept of love besides platonic love/friendship, does he?

>doesn't kiss chichi
>doesn't understand why vegeta wants to be there when bra is born, which could be any day now

how has vegeta become the good husband and father? is it because of his royal heritage, where marriage was important and marriage within the low classes wasn't?
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>>153091812
Uub having the same personality as Kid Buu when fighting would be fucking amazin'
>>
>>153094193
"I can't get no satisfaction''
"boredom turns into a stone"
" I wanna Laugh like Crazy"
"I will blow Zeno away"
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>>153093059
>implying Hit isn't going to job to ayy

It's a shame, because Hit is actually a fun character who has great chemistry with Goku, but he's so last season.
>>
>>153094193
Goku even acknowledges how dangerous blue pill-sama is before he pushes the button, but he does it anyway
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>>153094275

"The invisible me is waiting there"
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>>153094245
I think it's just a case of Saiyan's from the high class being more emotionally developed and more intelligent in general, which is why they were the ruling class.
Low class are the equivalent of retarded plebs that would rather drink booze and waste their life away.
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>>153094245
Royal heritage but Goku's parents were loving though so some low class warriors do know the concept
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>>153094311
>invisilble

It's invincible.
>>
>>153094311
Invisible Goku confirmed final boss
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>>153094346

dragon ball minus is not canon
>>
>>153094346
Minus might be "official" canon, but it's objectively worse than the Bardock movie so it doesn't count
>>
>>153094311
If Zamasu somehow survived inside of Goku i swear i'll drop the series

Well, i kinda of want to see the real Goku turning Rose
>>
>>153094369

Yeah, you are right.
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>>153094397
Written by the author himself
>I-it's not canon
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>>153092175
Hello.
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>>153093578
No, u.
>>153093625
That was moe.
>>153093828
Zamasu was a weak ass ningen.
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>>153094416
theres nothing that says the events of bardock didnt happen just probably happend a little differently in-between the scenes of minus
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>>153091783
well vegeta is still cultured, having been a prince, so he has a basic understanding of family, duty, honor, etc etc, despite coming from a savage race (who stole technology from a more advanced race and stopped being totally savage anyway). Goku on the other hand was conked on the head and raised as a country bumpkin. He's basically a fucking redneck superman.
>>
>>153091847
that doesn't refute what he said, about goku's family being no more important than his friends. goku transformed into fucking super saiyan when krelin died. he just got really mad when chichi and goten died. see the problem?
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>>153094553

But superman was also a redneck.
>>
>>153094426

It's not Zamasu, goku was just a dick all along, but circumstances were such that he was constantly surrounded by even bigger shitheads for him to beat up
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>>153092355
because he looks fucking awesome, unlike super 17.
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>>153094854

Superman was raised in middle america by a normal family, Goku was raised for not even his whole childhood by a fight monk in the middle of nowhere
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