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Did punished Yayaka save Flip Flappers?

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>>152972935
nah.
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>>152973137
/thread
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>>152973137
needs moar GOGONA and BABIGA
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>>152973137
what's with this meme?
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>>152972935
She couldn't even save herself.
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>>152972935
She did take off the cape.
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HOW CAN SHE FLAP?
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>>152975629
DUMB PAPIKA POSTER
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She ruined it.
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>>152972935
Is there going to be an OVA/Afterstory? Yayaka being all alone at the end made me sad
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>>152976089
So far all that's confirmed is we're getting three OVAs that cover the three Pure Illusions that were only mentioned in passing.
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>>152976260
>source: my ass
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>>152976260
Lies.
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>>152976089
>Yayaka being all alone at the end
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>>152976260
;_; why hurt me like this?
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>Cockona
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I thought we had our last thread for at least a week guys.

But since we've got it going on anyways, here's this nice bit from the last episode.

This totally flew under my radar when I saw that the first time.
Just look how cool Yayaka was, eve in the end she was a good bro.
Cheering up to the girls from the bleachers, such a good loser.
And just a few a while ago she was jealeous of them, she was fighting them. But Yayaka was so mature and cool she got over it quickly, she accepted her place as just a childhood friend/third wheel/support even if all she could do was cheer them on.

That's a real friend, the sort that isn't selfish or spiteful, the sort that will stick around for you until the end.
It's one of the reasons I like her so much.
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>>152977431
But she punched Uexküll.
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>>152977113
i hate this pic so much
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>>152977577
You love it.
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>>152977616
Anon can't get enough Cockona
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>>152977543
She couldn't contain all that HOT BLOOD and hype.
Few could handle Yayaka.
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Was there some extra meaning to this scene?
Their middle fingers touched by the tip and then they transformed into white henshins.
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>>152977431
"just wait until i kill that bitch in her sleep and make Cocona..."
>gets taken away by hot green bunny guy
"oh ehm.. get her girls! See you in school i guess"
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>>152977833
>10k animated frames episode
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>>152972935
Mimi did.
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Is this yuri?
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i dont know if people talk about this kind of stuff, but i really want to. i personally though flip flappers wasn't the best thing since sliced bread. i did enjoy most of it. however, one thing i can't just overlook is how amazing the voice acting is. it's literally flawless and so much more personal compared to anything in the past past few years. granted, although some of the dialogue is dumb and/or generic , the VAs did exceptional jobs delivering them.
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>>152976465
Kill yourself.
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>>152982095
Agreed, maybe they had very good voice direction staff or something, they all did such a consistently good job, really felt the "realness" off the characters and they managed to seem legit at all times with great emotional range and passion for their lines.

But of all the characters the main 3 were the ones that I enjoyed the most. They did such a good job.
When calling each other's name they always sounded and felt so earnest and genuine.
It really helped establish their emotional relationships too, to hear them speak to each other in such a way that conveyed many feelings with few simple words.
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>>152982111
I have to buy the BDs first.
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>>152980662
I wonder
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>>152982448
That devil Papika made my dick so fucking hard oh god, she was pure seduction incarnate.

Cocona can have the real Papika, I want her seductive sexy double.
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Anyone got that picture of two lilies touching each other?

It used to be posted in these threads before.
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This looks like a parody of something, but what?
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>>152982869
What about devil Cockona then
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>>152982945
Is that from the show? I don't remember anything like that.

>>152983100
Not canon.
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>>152983204
>Not canon.

It was implied Papika basically had faced the same situation as Cocona, just offscreen.
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>>152983239
succubus threesome in the main cast's dreams when
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>>152982869
I thought the Devil papika was just a part of real papika.

Real Papika wasn't gone, she was just split into a bunch of different personas, each representing a part of herself. She couldn't appear as the real her in front of Cocona both because it was the influence of her own PI bringing aspects of her character to the surface which had been buried from the Mimi incident, and Cocona's impedance being all over the place from being "lost"

I figured that's why each Papika kept appearing and disappearing suddenly, almost at random. She was fighting against Cocona's impedance.
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>>152983064
Maybe no more heros?
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The director confirms impedance is the impedance of a twisted pair.
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>>152985231
Characteristic impedance of a twisted pair is this.
>l is half the distance between the wire centres, >R is the wire radius
So for impedance to approach zero the two lines have to be infinitely close to each other.
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>>152985351
>So for impedance to approach zero the two lines have to be infinitely close to each other.
lewd.

>Q.E.D.
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>>152977113
>Papicunt
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>>152983064
Paranoia Agent is the only thing that comes to mind, and they're not really similar.
>>152983204
No it wasn't from the show but it was still posted here a lot.
It's a 2D drawing of the two lilies and it has japanese text, it looks kind of lewd for flowers.
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If she didn't save the show, why is there so much art of her?
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>>152986578
Because she saved the fans
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>>152985231
>>152985351
That's interesting. So it's not necessarily about being synchronized or on the same page, not specifically, but just how close they are ?
That would make sense given how they got progressively better at it as they grew closer, and even when they had disagreements they didn't always lose it as long as they still remained close.

Got any link or source for that confirmation by the way? Just so I can share it and have something to provide when asked for it.


I wonder if Yayaka could have achieved impedance with Cocona. They were very close before, but there were many lies on the way that kept Yayaka shut down behind a mask, but that all went away when she became honest about herself.
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>>152986753
>source
The talk show
>パピココが2人でPIに行くということがバランス接続にかかっているということも要因だそう。
>バランス接続 balanced line
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>We'll never get that cool Yayaka spinoff we want
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>>152987016
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>>152987016
The amorphious children also want a season two of just them and Yayaka.
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>>152987016
Or how about a Yayakato spinoff?
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>>152987717
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>>152987753
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>>152988191
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>>152972935
She saved my heart, I'd marry her.
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>>152986114
>boss labia
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>>152977113
>Puppycunt
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>>152984946
Do you think Papika was in that same dimension having to deal with a whole heap of split Cocona's?
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Why is Hidaka surprised?
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>>152985351
I just want to chime in and say that they don't have to be infinitely close to each other for the impedance to reach zero. R just has to equal l, meaning each wire has to have a radius that's equal to half the distance between them, which would make them touch each other.
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>>152991440
Because there is no ass.
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>>152992675
well touching is usually the closest two things can physically be
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>>152988236

Same. I just caught up on the show and I've totally fallen for Yayaka. I've been watching anime for more than 10 years but I think I've finally found the one. I just want to make her happy and take care of her. She's such a sweet, good girl who deserves to be happy. Plus she's really pretty.
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>>152992675
>make them touch each other
This shorts the wires.
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>>152994314
That's why the wave impedance reaches zero.
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>>152992675
Maybe in interpersonal/psychological terms that means they just need to be a certain level of closeness that's relative to the amount of distance they put between themselves an others?

Basically the bigger the AT field, more they need to work to get close to someone for the impedance to reach 0.
Hence why it was easy for Papika, who never put any barriers between herself and others but much harder for Cocona who was naturally more distant and took longer to warm up to others.
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>not even one Fractale
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>>152994436
I doubt the director and writer intended kept that formula in mind, but this scene just made more sense to me.
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Finally got my goodies from the infinite shop! The wall scrolls are bigger than expected. Just wish I got another blanket as I'm afraid I'll probably ruin the first one after awhile.
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>>152994552
Is there any potential additional meaning behind the middle fingers being the ones touching?
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>>152994773
I would have bought stuff from too them if I had the money.
Just to support them.
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>>152994797
It's the longest finger, so if you're desperately trying to touch something (someone?), that's the way to go.

>>152994773
Good job, anon!
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>>152993687
I'm on a similar boat.
Yayaka's the first girl of her type that I've liked this much.
Usually I'm into the cuter sort of girls, not so much the tomboys, the bad girls, edgy girls, badasses or the anti heroes. But Yayaka's redemption arc and her positive attitude in the end made me love her that much. All the shit she goes through, and the way she took dealt with all of it made me admire her a lot.

She's one of my favorite anime characters now.
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>>152994418
The wording is "approach zero" not "reach zero". If the wires touch the impedance is undefined, not zero.
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>>152994929

Bad girls with a heart of gold are totally my thing.

You probably like her because she is just a cute girl under the surface. She didn't mean or want to do wrong and her fundamental goodness came though in the end. It's the duality of her being tough and also weak that draws me in. She's deeply flawed but, as you said, how she deals with it is admirable.
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>https://twitter.com/cinemart_tokyo/status/827426166201950209
The screening event ticket sold like hotcakes. They're now selling no-seat tickets.
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>>152995233
She was put in a terrible position.
Having to lie, having to fight for her life, having to hurt those she loved, not being sure if they'd still love her back after knowing the truths.
Fearing losing them. Knowing that if she acted on her feelings she'd be disposed off by her people.
A lot of tough stuff. Many inner conflicts led to her tragic elements.
But yeah it's the way deep down she's a sweet girl that wanted to be by her friend's side what really made her special to me, how despite all the things she was capable of doing and saying she actually wanted to be there for Cocona all along and in the end that's what she chose and once she did she stopped doubting herself and could fully commit to her true and more noble intentions.
She never let the weight of the world bring her down, even though she came close to cracking a few times she remained strong and stood up again and again never giving up.

And her cool, smug and edgy attitude also made her very cute, she pulls it off nicely. I loved her in episode 5 trying so hard to act all cool and detached even though she actually must have wanted to be on Cocona's side so badly.
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Nyunyu is the cyutest girl!
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>>152995641
They say it's a small event so this still isn't indicative of a bigger fandom, but it at least means the show did have enough dedicated fans to fill something like that which is still very nice.
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Matoi sold 554 first week. Not bad. I expected far worse for the 3 Matoifags here.
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>>152995886
It hurts that I liked both FLFL and matoi a lot.
And this season Kobayashi san seems to be headed for a similar fate.
I still have hopes for LWA to pull off a miracle though.
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>>152995654

Not to mention a feeling of inadequacy, that she's only there because there's nothing better and as soon as there's any good replacement she'll be thrown aside.

Her spikey attitude is how she deals with the world around her. It all came together in such a way it allowed her to keep her individuality and thats how she managed to cope and make it through. Even though she couldn't say it, she knew what her truth was. It's why she presents herself as a nonconformist on the outside, like those red streaks in her hair. That shows real strength.

I want to take care of her and let her take care of me.
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>>152977848
Shoulda been their ring fingers
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>>152997131
Why would they draw this?
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>>152997131
I still need art of Iro molesting Cockona.
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>>152997421
But I'm Iro
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>>152997499
Then switch with Iro.
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>>152995737
It doesn't really matter how big a venue is. If you're venue is selling out then the venture is a rousing success. At least this means airing Flip Flappers in theatres was a good money-making move. The might still break-even off of this after all.
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>>152997888
>The might still break-even off of this after all
They already broke even.
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>>152997923
Oshiyama mentioned in one of the post-release events that they were still in the red.
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>>152998038
How can that be when they got paid to make this show? Maybe he meant the situation of 3Hz on a whole? This would make sense.
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>>152998117
They went over budget. They used more money than the production committee was paying 3hrz.
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>>152972935
Nyunyu>Papika>Yayaka>Cocona>Mimi
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>>152998732
How can anybody even hold this opinion?
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>>152998749
Sue me.
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>>152998709
This is the first time I'm hearing this, you better back this one up.
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>>152998732
>this is an opinion people can have
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>>152998749
What's there to be upset about? Nyunyu was a delight everytime she was on screen, being a supercute kid and also the best loli fanservice in anime since forever.
Other than her, Papika was the obvious best girl, while Cocona was undeserving of all the love she got, and Mimi broke down and went the worst kind of arrogant and dangerous insane.
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>>152998931
>less than 5 minutes total of screentime
>no character development
>no personality
>no characterization
>DID NOTHING
>"best girl"
You spent 13 goddamn episodes with these two and you snub them for a toddler in a g-string. Fuck you.
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>>152998931
She was retarded and a gimmick. There is nothing wrong with liking her, but I can't respect a man that puts her above Cocona, Papika and Yayaka. Hell, even Sayuri and Mimi are better. And Iro, and Yuyu. Maybe only Robograndma is worse.
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>>152998960
>toddler
How is she a toddler?
Also
>did nothing
So, like Cocona. And not everyone needs to see someone do everything.
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>>152998960
You would understand if you were a lolicon.
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>>152997131
This looks really on-model.
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Sale of a ticket for 2nd day has started.
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>>152999569
It's volume 3 BD cover.
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>>153000983
Pretty lewd for official art.
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>>153000983
>NTR on BD cover
I cannot believe it.

>>153001178
Hand holding, shoulder grabbing, Cocona blushing and her arm covered in various colored fluids is extremely lewd.
Iro is literally dirtying a very reluctant Cocona while Papika can only watch.
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>>153002071
>very reluctant
Nigga she ain't resisting. Cocona is blushing like a fresh bride there. She lives to be touched by older women and she knows it.
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>>153001844
>Totobutt
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>>152998732
GOD-TIER
>Yayacock

GOOD-TIER
>Papikunt
>Nyunyu

LOW-TIER
>Everyone Else
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>>152976089
>all alone
>with uexkock
she prefers it that way
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>>152982448
coconas hips make me want to commit a crime!
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>>152991440
benis
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>>152994797
the middle finger is the most conducive to orgasm in fingering
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>>153003323
gotta have two fingers
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>>153003458
they're only little girls anon!
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>>153003516
That seems like a flimsy excuse while you girlfriend's hands are making you a woman.
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>>152994502
1 Flip Flop
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>>152998980
Not him but I enjoy the way she influenced the plot very generally despite her presence in the OP. Her character certainly doesn't match the mains in density of knowledge about them but it seemed like she had a significant spotlight compared to Sayuri or Hidaka in the later episodes. Also she's very lewd and I can't ignore that.
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IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING!!!
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Yayaka oni-chan
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>>153004918
You can't have a yellow oni. That's forbidden mtyhologifiying.
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BD Vol 1 artbook scans never
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>>152983064
Danganronpa
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Perfection.
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>>153000983
This is funny
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we require bdrips
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>>153006648
>>153007763

Or you know, you can actually buy the BDs and support the creators.
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>>153008400
>assuming i didn't
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>>153008400
Actually BD is the closest thing to Patreon. Its content hardly matters (I just need it to do the comparison).
Books and the OST albums are different so I didn't pirate them.
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>>153008400

Does the BD have english subs?
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>>153008400
The BDs don't have subs. I bought vol1 but I don't even own a BD player to actually play it with, so I need rips.
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>[GJM] Flip Flappers - Volume 1 (BD 720p)
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>>152997131
I like the cute Papika stalking.
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>>153000983
Iro senpai is always so beautiful
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>>153004918
Delicious! I want to be stuck in hell with her punishing me.
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>>153010447
>720p
What do they have against quality?
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>>153011497
I think the argument is, that the original material is upscaled already and so it's not worth it to reencode in 1080p.
You better ask them directly though.
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>>153011621
It's true that the mastering resolution is 720 but it doesn't make any sense to downscale it when it's for archive purpose.
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>>152972935
nope
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>>153014959
Is this a dogpile?
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>>153011497
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=895913
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>>153015861
This is good, thank you.
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>>153014959
This is too cute. It's the kind of super cute stuff that makes thinking about the show's end much sweeter.
Fools can deny it all they want but Cocona and Papika are OTP and they got their happy ending and they will be a happy couple together.
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>>152972935
So after rewatching all 13 episodes, I just can't pinpoint this character's role. Nothing was explained.

>ugly forehead
>flat
>never goes to class, has ugly pale skin
>hangs around a mad cult and emotionless twins
>really useless at gathering amorphous
>can't confess
>moody
>may or may not be straight
>dresses up in fetish costumes

What the fuck is this character? Who is her girlfriend supposed to be?
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>>153019697
>Who is her girlfriend supposed to be?
I can tell you who it WAS supposed to be
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>>153019823
Yayaka had her chance for years and never took it, she's the only one to blame for failure.
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>>153020254
Asking Cocona out would have hurt her more than anything else, and almost certainly resulted in a negative answer. The girl just wasn't in the headspace for relationships, let alone to confront her own burgeoning homosexuality at the dawn of adolescence.

That's what makes Papika so special. Papika changed her, made her into someone that was not only receptive to a love confession, but capable of returning it. Yayaka could never be that special person, she never had her chance.

That's why she deserves Mimi instead
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>>153020395

> tfw even if you did find that one perfect someone they would only reject you anyway

Flip Flappers was so good. Also I love all the Yayakas.
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Yes but Mimi ruined it.
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>>153020997
I wish Mimi would ruin me.
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>>153006841

She looks amazing with those braids.
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>>153020395
Cocona wasn't as broken as you're making her out to be, plenty of other girls go through similar thoughts.

Whether or not she'd be rejected is hard to say because the time we got of just them together was pretty short.

>That spoiler
That would just be awful. In a reasonable show she'd end up with a classmate giving her attention, but what we got for the end was a loner Yayaka more than anything.
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>>153020395
I love Yayaka so much, as a character. As a cool action anime anti hero. As a cute girl. She's the best.

But even I have to agree with this post.
Papika was the right girl to heal Cocona's cold and lonely heart. Nobody else could have done it, it had to be her.
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>>153021084
>That would just be awful.
It's actually perfect for both of them,
Cocona dates her mom's best friend.
Mimi dates her daughter's best friend.

Yayaka gets a rebound that looks almost exactly like the object of her affection but about 4x as lewd.
Mimi gets to learn all about this lesbian business her daughter is going through.

Plus Mimi's a socially inept recluse that was never properly socialized, with strong traditional values. Yayaka's habit of staying out past curfew and penchant for addressing her elders in a very slightly disrespectful tone is the perfect foil that will help bring her out into the world. They can bond over experiences with Salt's Dad and mildly oppose the establishment together by passing a "no loitering" sign at a less-than-brisk walking pace.

Plus Yayaka can show her all those kinda bad words that come out of her filthy mouth.
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>>153021084
This was Nyunyu's true purpose all along.
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>>153021211

Yayaka might as well be my waifu at this point and even I agree with that. What Cocona and Yayaka meant to each other was very different, you could see that from the very moment they met.

Despite her tragic story and never catching a break, Yayaka is a strong girl. She'll be OK.
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>>153021356
Strong girls need love, too. I just wish the ending had given her someone other than the fucking rabbit. Even the twins got Nyunyu.
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>>153021334
That's almost all superficial. Knowing what she knows now there's no reason Yayaka would be interested in Mimi, and looking like Cocona but not being Cocona would hurt more than help.
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>>153021425
>That's almost all superficial.
Welcome to relationships. We can't all be Cocopapi, anon. At some point, somethin's gotta give. You can accept less-than-perfect if it means you have something that's kind of like happiness.
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>>153021393

I love her ;_;

I worry about that too, I hope they're not trying to tell us her ability to love anyone else has been totally shot, leaving her only a rabbit to love. She didn't deserve this.
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>>153021458
I'm not talking about perfection. Fact is there's no dialogue or interaction between them that makes a relationship a thing, you just think they should go together because they have some stuff in common/would complement the other. Neither of them want to pursue the other so it wouldn't happen.
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>>153021676
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Tch.
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>>153021425
I agree it's superficial, but the idea isn't as crazy as it sounds. Now that he brought it up I tried thinking about it for a moment and there might be some decent chemistry between them, I don't think they could seriously have anything together, not in the way we're talking anyway.
But they could at least get along in an interesting way if the circumstances ever led them to each other.

Mimi always seemed to be more like in control of things despite going with the flow. She gave me the impression of someone who had a good grasp of what was going on and could properly digest the situation, while also taking things at her own pace. Like she could understand people well too and tell what was on their heart.
That's the way she could tease others but in a light hearted and friendly fashion, she's the sort that could go along with the fun while also throwing you some friendly jabs along the way if you really were asking for it.

Now Yayaka has a hard time opening up and likes to put on a facade a lot, while she also seems to enjoy some light teasing with her friends.
Mimi would actually be able to tell when Yayaka is trying to mess with her and answer right back with her own.
And she would also be able to tell when Yayaka isn't being entirely honest and would either let her do her own thing or lead her to being honest depending on the situation.

Both being relatively mature character can work well for them in that sense.

But that's just my interpretation. Unfortunately we didn't see enough of Mimi to really know that much about her.
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>>153021785
They had two interactions, and they were both good.

Both times Mimi was impressed by Yayaka, or commented on her being cute.
But also sort of teased her from higher position.
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>>153021875
Plus, as far as we know, Yayaka has never had a mother, or any parental figure whatsoever. I feel like she'd be receptive to a relationship with an older, more maternal partner as a way of helping her work through those issues.

They've both been hurt by Asclepius in similar ways, and could definitely be good support in healing those wounds. That doesn't even necessarily to be something romantic, but both of those characters deserve some healing after all the things they've been through. Mimi lost her whole life to Asclepius, and Yayaka could learn a lot from her, especially about appreciating the time she has now.
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>>153021561
She's 14. She has all the time in the world to keep being a badass and eventually finding someone to love her back. She'll be okay.
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>>153022368
>She has all the time in the world to keep being a badass and eventually finding someone to love her back. She'll be okay.
She'll tell herself the same thing when she's 16 and squandering her first year of highschool.
Then again when she's 18 and graduating with nothing to show for it
Then again at 23 while she works the cash register at Lawson for minimum wage
Then again at 35, when she sobs uncontrollably every time there are children on tv and comes home every night from her part-time job with an aching back and sore feet bloating.

At some point she'll realize that she never really had all that much time, and every moment she wasted being miserable and hopelessly alone was another precious moment ticked off her life.

When running fast and being a hero to the people that called themselves her friends are a thing of the past, she won't remember her teenage years for the brief moments where they were almost tolerable. She'll remember them for the funeral pyre of missed oppourtunities, the moments dragging to days and to weeks and to her whole life that she spent waiting for bad things to get better, and the risks she didn't take because she was too afraid of losing what she never had in the first place.
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>>153022672
Yayaka not making any friends in highschool is a huge stretch. Even when she spent her time skipping school and class she still got along with classmates just fine. And if she can make friends, she can definitely find someone.
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>>153023053
>if she can make friends, she can definitely find someone.
I'm not so sure things work that way.
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>>153023143
She was pretty aggressive with Cocona at times but their history and the amorphous made it complicated. With anyone else she could be more straightforward.
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>>153023215
>pretty aggressive with Cocona
You mean all those times she unintentionally moved into a position to advance her relationship, saw that Cocona was aware and receptive to it, and then lost her nerve?
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>>153023215
>>153023378
Because she did that a lot
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>>153023378
>>153023429

She just needs to find someone who's more sure of themselves to edge her on that little bit further.

I don't think "anyone else" could do it, but the right person could. She's just a difficult shell to crack, because she's had to be that way. It's not far fetched or even unlikely. She's plainly a nice, sweet, loyal, caring girl, someone only needs to put a little effort in.
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>[BDMV] Flip Flappers Vol.2
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>Yfw Cocona and Papika will have a falling out and affair as the romance wears off

Many such cases!
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>>153024265

> people actually think this

Sad!
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>COCONA!
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>>153024441
>Papika will never penetrate you
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>>153024265
They'll probably have some bumpy spots but nothing in the show indicates they won't live happily ever after.

Meanwhile, Yayaka lost her closest friend and the only thing she could call family, she'll be homeless for the rest of her life.
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>>153024949
She didn't lose Cocona you faggot. She just got rejected.
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>>153024949

No, she's smart and resourceful, she'll make it through OK.
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>>153024949
If Salt really wants to atone, he'll adopt all those kids whose lives were ruined by his dad and give them a proper home.
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>>153025015
Cocona ran off with Papika at the end of the story. What reason is there for any of them to return to school? And if they did, then what, they all act like everything is normal?
>>153025047
You say that but with no money, no home, no friends, no family? You can't even get a job.
>>153025085
Atoning and caring about kids are entirely different things
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>>153025245
>Atoning and caring about kids are entirely different things
When your atonement involves the kid you failed to protect and the person you failed to prevent from hurting kids, they align quite nicely.
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>>153025245

I think you're underestimating her resourcefulness. She's very independent and full of fight and determination.
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>>153025245
>What reason is there for any of them to return to school?
Are you retarded? Pure Illusion may be fun but it won't put food on the table. One of them needs a job and unless Flip Flap starts paying, primary education is a decent enough start.
>And if they did, then what, they all act like everything is normal?
Pretty much. Yayaka very maturely accepted her fate as a loser but that's not reason enough to cut ties with her best and possibly only real friend.
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>>153027857
Yayaka gathering material for that night's masturbation
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>>153027857

Yayaka is beautiful.
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>>153027978
Agreed
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>>153027935
Man, it must feel awful masturbating to your best friend secretly for god knows how many years while your whole relationship is a lie, only to have her stolen by someone else.

I wonder if Yayaka can still get off to her Cocofantasies now, or if they're all tainted by guilt and the faint sound "tanomo" in the distance
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>>153022672
What is this madness.
That doesn't sound like the Yayaka I saw.

Yayaka is awesome, she's a go getter, an achiever.
She's adorable, she's cool and a good person.

She will find friends, she still has many more years of school meet them, and then her whole life too. She was a bit anti social due to her lifestyle, and the secrets she had to keep which made her distance herself from others but that's all gone
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And I could never see her with a shitty job.
She will ruthlessly climb the corporate ladder while impressing all her superiors on the way.

She'll be fine.
The only thing that has me a bit worried is her personal life, she hesitated a lot with Cocona and that ended hurting her. So hopefully she doesn't let those regrets haunt her too much, some people can let that happen and others are better at letting go so it all depends on how she ultimately deals with it in the hypothetical future of the character.
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>>153028113

She's particularly beautiful with her hair down.
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>>153028202
TANOMO

TANOMOOO!

The sound of her nightmares, it hunts her in her dreams.
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>>153028286

Someone else gets it. She just needs someone who will give her the love and time to open up and be the real sweetie she actually is.
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More time with Papika and Yayaka would have helped both of them I think
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All the side characters needed more screentime, but I wish Asclepius was featured more prominently in the story. I liked how they managed to be a despicable organization that actually carried a lot of emotional baggage with the main characters, due to being created from messing around with the red gates. I at least wish there was a confrontation between Salt and his crazy-ass father, but the dude just died in an after-credit scene and everyone forgot he existed.

Fuck I hate typing while drunk.
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>>153029434
Salt's father went nuts because Papik and Mimi fucked up his red gate, right?
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>>153029711

> mfw watching Yayaka
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Now, every time I see the word "serendipity," I can't unhear "INTO THE SKYYYYY!" Thanks, Flip Flappers.
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>>153029711
Yep, which connects his character with Cocona not only by the fact that he controlled her life from infancy, but also from Cocona's fear regarding Iroha, but the series never really did anything with that. He also controlled Yayaka's life from infancy, killed Mimi, imprisoned Papikana, was Salt's father, it seems like he was being built up as the biggest antagonist on the show, until Mimi showed up.
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>>152972935
Why did this show try so hard to be the next Neon Genesis Evangelion?
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>>152995107
no there is a definable length of wire current flows through regardless of where the short occurs. even if its literal tens of atoms in length from the voltage source to the short we can define an impedance. theres no such thing as just having infinite current and 0 impedance
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How did Flip Flappers make a more satisfying Eva 3.0 than Anno did?
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>>153030145

Lesbians.
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>>153029434
I thought they handled that organization well, it always seemed morally ambiguous but antagonistic, powerful, shadowy and interesting.
In the end we did learn enough about them to make sense of whatever was related to them.

If anything an issue is how easily it became irrelevant once Mimi appeared, they weren't important for the show's conclusion, its climax and ultimately they hardly mattered anymore at that point. They set plenty of the events of the show in motion, all 3 main characters had their lives completely put in motion by them.
I think a good move would have been to have them somehow involved alongside Mimi as the final threat to the show, so the conclusion could at least be connected to a sense of satisfaction related to the characters finally dealing with that entity which had controlled and hurt so much of their lives.
But plotwise the focus in the end was mostly Mimi's misguided pain and Cocona's struggle to find her own self determination anymore which also led to her embracing her love for Papika.
Salt got his bit about accepting his pasts mistakes and fixing them, and Yayaka also got her bit about accepting her feelings for Cocona and also accepting her place in Cocona as just a friend. Those were all nicely done parts of the conclusion.
But I think more would have been nicely tied up if Asclepius had been an active relevant factor at least on some level. Like for example if they were still actively responsible for antagonizing Mimi somehow which caused her to keep lashing out against everyone the way she did.
Like maybe they'd try to use her shards to enter her own PI somehow to take her power for themselves while corrupting her even more. So defeating Mimi by saving her would also mean defeating Asclepius But I don't know how that could have been done given the time they had left and without weakening the thematic importance Mimi's actions carried if they were indirectly being caused by external influence.
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>>153030493
You put it better than I could have, thanks anon.

Honestly, I don't think you really even need much of a reason for Mimi and Asclepius to work together. Salts dad was thrilled at the idea of her joining Pure Illusion to the real world, and Mimi was already hurting her old friends, why not work with her old enemy?
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>>153030712
That's actually a good idea.
Both saltdad and Mimi were warped up and crazy after a switch, they both acted erratically.
So it wouldn't take that many stretches to have them find some common ground.

Mimi's actions needed only needed to be something that would take away Cocona's agency, as long as she ended up being dependent on Mimi and without an active free will Mimi's themes and motivations would be satisfied.
And Asclepius only needed some sort of weird goal related to their worshiping of Pure Illusion.
So they might as well have connected both of them together somehow, made Asclepius enable Mimi's delusion while retaining an antagonistic role, which in turn would also mean they have to be defeated in order to get the happy ending.

The story would change a bit in the last episodes but most of the show would remain the same and the ending would also be more or less the same.
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>>153028291
She really deserved more time to get the coconut.
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>>153030011
Wait, wait. He didn't kill Mimi neither imprisioned Papika.
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Was I the only one with some slight hopes of seeing a revolutionary threesome ending after the way they worked together so well in episode 8?

Just imagine that.
Papika and Yayaka solve their issues, find some common ground together, and Cocona realizes she loves them both and they're ok with it.
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>>153030493
>>153030850

This has one problem. Asclepius going down was more or less required for Yuyu and Toto to defect and to eventually redeem themselves by protecting Nyunyu.
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>>153030493
Asclepius kinda made Mimi do all that shit she did to protect Cocona, it was because of Asclepius that she switched with her evil self.

IMO Asclepius played a big role, it held the antagonist role greatly until shit got real with Mimi.
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>>153029818
Anyone playing basketball really
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>>153031055

Oh I know that.
All of the bad stuff in the show can be traced back to them.
But when Mimi destroyed them, they stopped being a factor. Which means Cocona, Papika and Yayayaka never got to face them, so a viewer would lack the satisfactory experience of seeing the hero defeat the villain.

The villain was already defeated by Mimi. All that was left to do was really saving Mimi more so than defeating her, because she was just another victim of them, she was more like throwing a tantrum in a confused state with part of her being lost than actually a villain in her own right.

That's what sort of lacked for a conclusion to really feel like it was complete to some people, and it's what I've been going off when thinking about it.

>>153031033
That's a fair point, but if Asclepsius has already gone full crazy let's fuck the whole world into pure illusion maybe that'd be enough reason for them, given the right opportunities and right chain of events, to still deflect.
But it's another factor that would change, yeah.
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>>153031135
I love how they always made Papika wear classic fanservice anime cloth at school while everyone else wore normal modern uniforms.
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Yayakafags still can't move on?
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>>153031228

We love our girl.
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>>153031228
Everyone else got their happy ending.
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>>153031205
She was wearing oldish style clothes at school multiple times. That sport uniform and the swimsuit. Her catchword "Tanomo!" is basically an antiquated way to greet in how it was used.
I think there is some "older than it looks" theme going on with her that hasn't been pointed out yet.
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>>153031228
We all want to be happy too.
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>>153031343
It's criminal how sexy Papika is. God dammit why does anime of all things make me feel so miserable?
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>>153031433
She's technically been alive for roughly 33 years so perhaps it was a hint to her real age? Not that it matters to Cocona.
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>>153031365
>that pile of Papis
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>>153032415
Papika was made to be loved by everyone. What a champ.
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>>153031317

>dat swimsuit Cocona
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>>153032415
Fuck that is too cute. I hope the 3 of them manage to keep a good relationship after the anime.
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>>153032611
let me know when she is 18
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>>153031433
>>153032518

I think it's just a design theme choice, she was getting the cloth from flip flappers,so not meant as a hint but if you were picking up on the other themes related to it you might notice the pattern regardless.

But it's a thing that in a post-spoilers context really fits that aspect of the character.
It becomes cuter if connected to the other dots.
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>>153032415
Nobody finds this wrong on many levels?
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>>153032838
Yep.
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>>153032838
It is. Please don't draw more attention to it.
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>>153032699
>manage to keep a good relationship after the anime
The ending pretty much guaranteed that. Yayaka lost but she still has an opportunity for love like Papika and Cocona.
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>>153032838
It's hot. Papika is a puppy and she desires to please everyone. Even the cucks.
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>>153032838
>this isn't NTR or anything it's all based on a mutual agreement between the three of them lol
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>>153033099
That just makes it even better.
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>>153032989
translation?
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>>153033163
Iro is teasing Yayaka that she always keeps to herself and asks if she really is Cocona's friend.
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>>153033099
>Cocona and Yayaka compete to see who can pleasure Papika the most
yes pls
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>>153033363
Caught in the lie!
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>>153033457
Here's a rough one. A more literal translation of the first text bubble would just sound too stiff.
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>>153033363
This needed to happen.
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More credit fix
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>>153033658
Studio Pablo didn't make more stuff for them in the late part of the show right?
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>>153032462

I know. I wish Yayaka was real, but I don't want her to suffer.
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>>153033608
how about her instead of that girl?
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>>153033608
Thanks!

>>153033601
>>153033621
Looks like the layers were wrong and it was an easy fix.

>>153033683
They reused some backgrounds in 12 and I think the forest at the end of 13 if that actually was from Pablo.
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I'm not sure of the point
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>>153033781
They forgot to put the actual credit there.

It's probably going to be KyoAni tier fixes until the last two BDs anyway.
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>>153033723
Yeah, that sounds better.
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This is an actual fix for oversaturated CG which wasn't fixed in vol 1.
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>>153034051
That's all for vol 2, folks.
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>>153034046
...tch looks like you censored Bitch.
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This sequence is the antithesis of mpeg, impossible to encode without a ton of bitrate.
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>>153034101
Thx anon, doing gods work.
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ep 3 commentary https://a.pomf.cat/qmgxih.mp4
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>>153034400
Anyone who knows Yayaka knows she's a tchdere.
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>>153034876

Tchdere best dere.
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>>153034876
I for one accept this new trend of tchdere best girls.
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>>153034869
>dat pyup
muh heart
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>>153034876

I want to pinch her cute cheeks.
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>>152986578
>why is there so much art of her?

because deluded Yayafags can't get over her loss
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Geez anon, are you still talking about this show? I mean it aired last year, get with the times. There are maybe, dunno, two, or even three other shows worth watching this season, with imaginative worlds to explore, colorful backgrounds, great animation, well-executed genre-episodes, language of flowers and jungian psychology. Some of them might even have cute girls!
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>>153036988

None of them have Yayaka though.
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>>153036988
>well-executed genre-episodes
Yeah, Flip Flappers was really varied with that - it had yuri episodes, episodes about yuri, and don't forget the episode with underlying yuri themes.
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>>152974240
It's an older /int/ meme.
Someone from finland posted a very poorly drawn version of pedobear called "spurdo spärde" a few years ago on /int/ and it caught up pretty quick.
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>>152973137
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>>153037182
sasuga
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>>153037672
saguga.
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>>153033369
The only good thing about this would be how utterly insecure it would make Cocona when she inevitably loses.
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Cocona and Papika
Sitting on a surfboard
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
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>>153034525
~30 second sequence, 15% of the filesize
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Can someone do me a quick favour, screencap this shot and post it here? It's about 13:30 in the first episode.

I'm not sure if the awful banding on my version is part of the encode or a problem with my player.
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>>153038394
see
>>153017289
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>>153038394
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>>153038444
That's a different encode, trips-kun
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>>153038456
Okay thanks, it's definitely my player then.
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>>153038585
I want to cum in Toto.
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>>153038638
You can't! He'll get pregnant.
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>>153034046
This looks like it has potential.
>>
>>153037180
Well said!
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>>153038943
I've been quietly putting Yayaka and Iroha together in my mind for a while now. If nothing else, it would have been a good chance to show off how Iroha had become more open and sociable after episode 6, by having her make friends with another member of the main cast.

Mild-mannered artist and touch-girl jock with a heart of gold would make for a fun pair.

Plus Yayaka's PI is a blank canvas
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>>153038943
What doesn't have potential though?
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>>153033363
>>153033608
Wouldn't 「あんまり関わらない方がいい…か」translate to something like "I shouldn't get too close (to Cocona), huh?".

Assuming it's a reply to Yayaka's warning that would go something like "As her friend I'm going give you a bit of advice. You shouldn't get too close to Cocona".
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>>153039356
Would.
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>>153039356
That actually makes more sense with that context.
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>>153039356
Is "Don't" better than "Shouldn't" for that?
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>>153032989
Whos tweet is this from?
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>>153039356
What's with the まあいいけど then? Iro just accepts that she shouldn't get too involved with Cocona?
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>>153040051
That's what she claims.
>>
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=896111
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>>153040108
excellent!
>>
>>153039726
There are plenty of clues. Iroha refers to Cocona as "her" so she was mentioned already. Since Iroha questions whether Yayaka is really Cocona's friend Yayaka likely claimed so, and the three dots at "...か" make it sound like Iroha is repeating what Yayaka said.

>>153039821
「関わらない方がいい」is literally "shouldn't get involved". 「関わるな」 would be the imperative mood aka "don't get involved".

>>153040051
Yeah pretty much. She doesn't want to argue about it.
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>>152972935
Sadly, only Yayabot could have.
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>>153040563
cute
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>>153031365
>bottom left
It's like a whole nest of papikas!
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>>153040500
How about this then?
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>>153040563
Fuck, I remember some anons seriously speculating that Yayaka will be dead and resurrected as a robot.
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>>153039092
>Plus Yayaka's PI is a blank canvas
Oh shit nigga
okay I'm 100% sold on this ship
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>>153039356

関わらない is intransitive. It refers to the speaker. "I shouldn't really get involved".

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/search?query="関わらない方がいい"&from=jpn&to=und
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>>153040647
I don't think "Say" is right.
>>
don't know i dropped that shitty show after 1 episode
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>>153039838
https://twitter.com/ninaryo/status/827741752081608706
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>>153040940
That's from Ninaryo! I didin't recognize it uncolored.
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>>153040563
tch
>>153040504
tch
>>153040647
tch
>>153039092
tch
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>>153040899
Well, strictly speaking it's not. I just thought I'd make it more natural sounding.
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>>153041085
What is the literal translation then?
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>>153040647
Sounds fine to me.

>>153040879
That's what I said?
Iroha is repeating what Yayaka said with added 「…か」 which pretty much translates "...huh?".

>>153040899
Well the meaning is pretty much the same. And it sounds natural enough to me.
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>>153041124
The small bubble is just a "You" and the rest of the sentence is in the other bubble.
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>>153041183
What if it were "You... really aren't her friend, are you?"
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>>153041389
It's literally "You" "Are you really her friend?".

"You really aren't her friend" sounds way too harsh. It's no longer even a question, but more of an accusation. "Say..." conveys the intent/meaning better.
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>>153041514
How about So instead of Say?
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>>152972935
This anime was 100% STYLE with an unsatisfying resolution. Yayaka a best.
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>>153041707
What was unsatisfying about the resolution? Everyone got a happy ending.
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>>153041722
Where it should have felt like evil-mimi vs good-mimi with coco and papi interceding on behalf of goodmom, instead it was just badmom attacking them on flimsy pretext. After that it was good though.
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>>153041722
That is the problem.
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>>153040108
Yes! Phallic objects in best quality!
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>>153042116
What would you rather have seen?
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>>153042162
Bad ends for everyone.
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>>153042381
That thematically doesn't work with the series at all
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>>153041707
Yayaka should have died to spice up the ending.
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>>153042631
That's a horrible thing to say, dumb puppy.
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>>153042631
But then we'd have to waste time on a Yayaka death scene, better to have her do nothing and be forgotten.
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>>153042631
No.
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>>153042631
The rabbit end was basically a spiritual death scene.
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>>153042758
>Shit, Cocona was serious about that girl all along
>Wonder what rabbit cock feels like
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>>153042631

Given how popular she is with the fanbase, the show would've sold even worse if she died.
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>>153042758
Now it makes sense.
>>
So whats this I hear that Iroha's seiyuu was hospitalized in mid production? Is this true?
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>>153044673
I can't find any news about it. If anything, the fact that she's a main character in Girlish Number last season and Gabriel DropOut this season without issues disagrees.
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Puppika
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Report furshit, hide furshit.
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She is at the limit of being feral and cute.
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>>153048545
not cute at all
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