This is my ability, Countdown. It lets me plant on bomb on some

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>>152915664
BANG!

>>152915664
But can it withstand both rubber and gum?

>>152915664
His ability was fucking stupid beyond belief and badly written entirely for the purpose of GI

>>152917288
This. What the fuck happened with this season.

>>152915664
How do people in Hunter even develop such convoluted powers?

>>152917971
Lots of practice and thought.

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So what are its upsides that aren't also shared by Killer Queen?

>>152918156
It's convoluted exactly so it won't seem like a Killer Queen copy

>>152918243
Yeah, but that seems kind of complex. How big is this explosion?

> My bomb explodes when you know who I am
> My bomb can be defused when you know who I am

Ptolemy

>>152917971
Togashi asspulls. See the Hisoka and Chrollo fight. I invite you to try to fully understand all the rules to Chrollo's bullshit powers.

>>152917971
>>152918339
>>152917288
>I didn't understand it so it's bad written!!

Wew

>>152917971
Your powers are specialized and limited by your imagination, your convictions, and your oaths (and sometimes you are just born special).

Otherwise all abstract concepts that give you strangely unique and convoluted powers that either make no sense, have no limit, or anything else you could literally think up.

Sums up every Hunter x Hunter power.

Also >>152915664 I actually liked how sneaky he had to be to actually be a villain. That's some real shit to be fake that fucking long and then SWOOP all but a few cards right at the end by just making everyone turn into dynamite on random parts of their bodies and holding them all hostage. I can see why people don't like it but it's something I thought was pretty sly.

>>152918296
Cant be that big because people standing next to eachother werent hit by others' countdown bombs and only died when their own went off.

>>152918156
He can activate multiple bombs at once while Killer Queen can only use one at a time

>>152918472
Well, it kinda feels like he developed that ability for that specific reason. In what other situation would an ability like that even be useful, with having to explain how your ability works and all

>>152920459
I'd say that it's well thought out in his case. It gives him an upper hand in those cases because most people don't want to explain their Nen anyways so as to keep an ace in the hole. He just has to play his cards kinda right and bam, pun kinda intended. I guess when you're a Conjuration type, that's a simple way for deadly results; he gets to just grab someone like Scar from FMA and instead of alchemy he just goes the simple route and blows their shit up.

Greed Island is by FAR the worst arc in HxH. Skip it every fucking time.
The quality disparity is ridiculous.

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>>152920653
>Not liking the volleyball match.

>>152920703
The volleyball match was only good because they stop using the retarded cards. Anything even mildly related to the cards ended up being immensely retarded.

>>152920459
People in HxH develop a nen ability that fits their personality and behavior. He might be a person who enjoys mixing in groups of people and backstabbing them later, who enjoys creating a false personality, who enjoys knowing something that others don't, who enjoy that look on people's face when he explains he has rused them, and he might have a mix of interest in hide&seek, tag games and explosives.

>>152918339
>I'm stupid: the post.

Never understood the hate for Greed Island. I always liked the card game mechanic. By far the best Isekai.

>>152921128
Liked it too. The plot though was shit compared to the before/after arcs. Both York Shin and Chimera Ants are too superior of an arc compared to G.I.
G.I. felt like a training arc.

>>152921196
Agreed; it's not that Greed Island is bad, it's just that York Shin and Chimera Ant are superior.

>>152921055
Well damn, that makes sense. I just didn't think it was that practical, since it requires you to already have the upper hand but you explained it well

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>>152918156
Would BITE ZA DUST disarm the bomber's bomb?

>>152921055
>People in HxH develop a nen ability that fits their personality and behavior

Is there any personality that would prevent a person from developing a nen ability?

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>>152921435
Nuts. I don't want to be stuck with the curse of nen, but I also don't want to lose my sexy muscles.

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>>152918339

>>152921392

Not really. Someone with distaste to nen might develop a forced zetsu ability.

>>152920653

It's the third best arc. I fucking love the effort Togashi put on a card game. Reminded me of Kaiji.

>>152918339
>asspulls
There you go, using that word again without knowing what it means.

>>152920653
It's my second favourite arc, fight me nigger

>>152921392
So Nen is basically a ripoff of Stands?

GI is my favorite arc, CA is my least favorite arc.

Honestly, the ants are so fucking boring.

>>152921435

He has a nen ability.

He's just too lazy to show it.

>>152922499
Except people choose their own form of Nen

>>152915664
Kurapika's chains are useless against anyone who isn't a spider.

People develop their abilities based on the goals they wish to achieve. Once you have developed that ability, it takes time to first actually create it and then practise with it enough times that it can be used in battle effectively.

>>152922499
Most shounen powers are ripoffs of stands.

>>152922520
I feel like people who praise CA as the best arc forget that like 70% of it is boring bullshit with a huge cast of forgettable, ugly furries. The good parts were really, really, really good, but the majority of the arc is really not good.

>>152915664
Hmmmm, touching someone to plant a bomb on them...where have I heard that before?

>>152922865
I think one of 2016's anime copied that power from HunterXHunter, but I forget it's name.

>>152922638
>The good parts were really, really, really good
The whole Youpi fight part, since the start of the invasion, was good enough to be worthy to read the whole arc.

>>152922499
Except it's better.

>>152923407
The Youpi fight is really underappreciated and one of the best in the entire series.

>>152923407
I agree, Chimera Ant is absolutely worth experiencing, it's just not as good as people give it credit for because the bad far outnumbers the good, dragging down the overall quality.
Everything about the Palace Invasion is absolute 10/10 material (except the Palm parts in my opinion).
I'd like it if people split the CA ant arc between the first 2/3's and the Palace Invasion mini-arc, but that's a pipe dream and ultimately pedantic anyways.

>>152922499
possessions, unseen companions and inner voices predates and inspire most comics and manga

>>152921310

Of course it would. Also Kira couldn't possibly lose against such an unclassy, pathetic excuse for a serial killer.

>>152923559
I also really liked the training with Biske and Knuckle.

>>152921055
Sounds like an ability any shitposter here would develop

>>152922581
No they're not.
Kurapika's one specific chain developed for the express purpose of killing Spiders is useless against anyone who isn't a spider.

>>152922638
>70% of it is boring bullshit with a huge cast of forgettable, ugly furries
You mean the shit before Kite's death? The whole 15 chapters of it? They non-royal ants are irrelevant outside of it except for like Ikalgo and Welfin, who i think both turned out to be interesting characters. Other than them i can only think of Cheetuh but he shows up in maybe 2 scenes. That's 70% of the arc?
>the majority of the arc is really not good.
That's an opinion.

>>152915664
I'd love to see him make an appearance in the curent arc.

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KILLER QUEEN! [spoiler/]
DAI SAN NO BAKUDAN [spoiler/]
BITE ZA DUSTO [spoiler/]

>>152929818
Me too actually, I always thought he seemed kind of random in GI but as usual with HxH everything doesnt have to be solved in one arc, his character has a lot of potential to be developed after the fight with Gon.

>>152930059

How was he random? He had a goal. To achieve a full collection and win.

He just did it a roundabout way and killed people wholesale because fuck em.

No different from how the Spiders would do it since there's no reason the Spiders couldn't achieve their goals without murder but they are edgelords too.

>>152920459
>in what situation would an ability that allows you to put a bomb on someone without them being aware of it until you tell them be useful

Do you really not see what kind of use that could have? It'd be excellent as a bargaining chip

>>152917288
This would be problem if HxH wasn't filled with really silly powers.

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>we will never see the end of the DC arc

Why are there so many poorly thought out abilities in this series.

>>152930651
because it's a shonen focused on long run

>>152930651
What do you call poorly thought out and what abilities are you thinking of

>>152930651
If actual people designed nen powers they would be total shit. Just look at Cheetu, his fucking sucked despite his speed being nearly OP

>>152930532
>the end
Nigga we won't even see the beginning, I bet you they won't even reach the DC.

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>>152921486
>curse of nen
>nen is literally a superpower
>who doesn't want a superpower
anon please don't

>>152930796
To be fair that was pretty much the point. He failed because he decided to come up with a shit ability in the heat of the moment.

He was always that kind of character you expect to die in some really retarded way.

>>152931191
meruem was really cool

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>yfw both Rubber AND Gum

>>152931115
Please don't toy with my heart like that.

>>152930270
It wasn't for no reason, he killed people so their cards would convert. His cards couldn't convert if the island wide conversion limit was reached.

>>152917971
>How do people in Hunter even develop such convoluted powers?

It's like power levels for more intelligent and mature people

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>>152931233
Would he have made a good ruler?

>>152931191
If someone like me got nen, it would be only because I wold soon be killed to demonstrate the power and/or depravity of the heroes or villains?

>>152931996
No, he's like gilgamesh except even more autistic.

OH MY RUBBER NEN

Hisoka is literally the only good thing about HxH.
Prove me wrong.

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>>152932294
Chrollo is better.

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>>152932294

>>152932359
>take away abilities from his subordinates so they are murdered effortlessly by a mad clown
world's best boss indeed
Super Saian Shalnark would probably wreck Hisoka's shit, or at least pull up a decent fight. Instead he died like a fodder.

>>152932505
To be fair it was pretty difficult to imagine he would pull a Jotaro and then start hunting spiders.
On the other hand Hisoka had been after Chrollo for years, went through Yorkshin and Greed Island just to get a chance to fight him and when it happened he got utterly blown the fuck out.

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>>152915664
Is this a jojo reference?

>>152922499
>DUDE IS NEN A JOJO REFERENCE???!?!?!
fucking neck yourself

>>152932505
He needed their powers to guarantee killing Hisoka. And he didn't leave them near Hisoka until after he had accomplished just that. His only mistake was not dismembering the body immediately and then cremating it, but then nobody would've expected Hisoka to rubber and gum himself back to life because it's insane nen loophole bullshit.

>>152917971
>>152918339
>I´m a dumbfuck.
FTFY

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for the record using bombs or planting bombs isn't really that original of an idea anyway its still cool though

>Paedophile clown killed the robot-controlling shota
What did he mean by this?

>>152922499
Man, I haven´t even read the other responses you had, but this surely causes some (you)'s. Fucking trolls.

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JoJo and HxH powers are random kindergarten sandbox garbage that makes no sense and follows no internal or external logic.

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how to kill hisoka

>>152932221
It's O MY RUBBER NEN, newfag.

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>>152933090
now thats a good question considering he's an actual rubberman I guess you could burn him alive

>>152932450
Bisky a best.

>>152933090
Pretty much any other way than suffocation

>>152933088
^^'

>>152915664
I just wonder how people even discover how that sort of power work.

>>152934058
He consciously developed it.

>>152934095
why would he develop a counter?

>>152934187
Because the counter existing makes the power stronger.

If the counter didn't exist the explosions would probably just tickle people instead.

>>152934187
Restrictions and whatnot are necessary to make nen abilities more powerful and viable. Otherwise he'd be expending a lot of his aura to use this ability and it'd probably be weaker.

>>152931229
>He was always that kind of character you expect to die in some really retarded way.

Well, he did.

HE > HA > ZF > YC > CA > CE > GI

I feel like Greed Island was such wasted potential. It introduced tons of cool concepts but rarely used them, or took them so far to the extreme that it just felt stupid.

>>152917971
Nen powers are basically DIY

>>152930796
Cheetu should have made an ability that got stronger the faster he ran. Simple, effective and it goes along with his mindset.

>>152915664
>>152915664
>people assume that the break is gonna be two years long again.
>don't worry, the break is not going to be long, we even have chapter prepared for release.

>>152934828
NOT
O
T

CANON
A
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>>152933088
>Implying this isn't every anime/manga

>>152934187
Did you even read the series? You can't possibly not know that

>>152917971
Applying conditions to your powers can make them stronger.

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>>152932294

>>152934828
lol

>>152937498
*smacks lips
AY HOL UP SO YOU SAYIN' O MY RUBBER NEN

>>152934929
How is it not canon?

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>>152915664
>Gon and Killua let this psychopath go scot free
>they even fucking heal their superficial injuries for no reason
>meanwhile, Gon threatens to kill a bling girl and murders the fuck out of Pitou in the next arch

>>152939586
Gon's morals are entirely relative to whether to psychopath in question has harmed anyone Gon knows personally and that's part of what makes him so frightening.

>>152915664

gets hard countered by chrollo. balanced.

>>152941078
>gets hard countered by chrollo
Explain

>>152939586
Since the beginning and through the arcs, people mention Gon´s autism (just like when he doesn´t care to give off an arm just to damage his oponent).

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>>152922499
>>152932672

>>152918339
>I speed read the fight post.

>>152941298
Everything and everyone is hard countered by Chrollo.
Except Meruem, Calamities and probably the nen ghosts of the princess

>>152948641
It must suck to be killed by one of those nen ghosts, they activate just by feeling bloodlust right? What if you get really pissed and think about murdering but wouldn't actually do it, and then boom! You're dead.

>>152915664
This faggot ruined HxH for me, after I watched the Greed island arc I dropped that garbage

>>152948916
We don't know yet if you can defend against them with activate ten or higher nen defenses.
And each one of them probably has some sort of trigger to 'activate' like the "Hey bra, you free?"-ghost.

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>>152922499
>Tfw even if people aren't intentionally acting like this with JoJo, at the rate the fandom is growing, it's only a matter of time before it becomes dubbed as cancerous and suddenly it becomes cool to hate it

It had to be this way
and it's not fucking fair, oh my god end me

>>152939586
>Gon
>Best friends with an assassin trained from birth

Yea, it's not a stretch to say that Gon's morals aren't straightforward.

>>152939586
everybody is morally gray in HxH except Leorio

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>>152918339

>>152934828
>Killua's ingenuity 3

I get one of Gon's aspects is using his cleverness to win fights, but Killua was always portrayed as someone who had all the answers. I guess that could fall under knowledge, but 3 for ingenuity still seems too low.

>>152931996
Up until the very end he just wanted to be a tyrant who ruled with brute force, and it would've worked too because no one would stand up to him. Those Death Rose's would have gotten him eventually though so he had a finite life span. Instead they just got him when he was still a threat to humanity before he had his send off with Komugi.

>>152953751
They would've never gotten him with the nukes, Pitou would've sensed them before they even left the airship.
Also people forget Meruems nen ability, eating the nen of other people.
He only ate one when he was hit with the rose, so we don't know if he would be able to tank it if he ate 100+ nen users.
We also don't know if Pitou would be able to heal the poison with Dr. Blythe.

>>152955252
Not really, her En is about a mile wide and they can set off nukes in a ring around that position so that even if the ants try to escape they will get radtiation poisoning.

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>>152918339
The fact that hunterfags gave this post so many (you)s just highlights how autistic they are. Making convoluted powers for the sake of being mistaken as "mature" is the hallmark of the average hunterfag who thinks they are reading such a 2deep4u masterpiece.

I mean look at this shit. Are we really supposed to believe that anyone can analyze this shit in combat at once?

So Chrollo vs Hisoka made me think, what would be the strongest combination of two abilities in a 1v1 fight, assuming both fighters don't have prep time.
Steal abilities don't count.

>>152955252
Remember, the direct explosion only nearly killed him, which is hugely remarkable that nukes are usually something that turns someone into a permanent "shadow". It was the radiation instead that slowly killed him within a day.

>>152956485
Probably something like Neteros combined with Leorio's punch thingy. Pop open a hole under them and slam that bhudda hand at it.

>>152956485
>>152955657
didnt really care for the complexities
but im disappointed majority of the fight was hisoka vs nobodies with chrollo nowhere to be seen

remember chrollo fighting killua's dad and grandfather? chrollo actually fought someone there

>>152958330
I'm more disappointed about himself Hisoka. He didn't show anything in that fight. Through entire time I was hoping he would come up with some new technique and instead he came up with stupid asspull and just died like a bitch. At least he started killing spiders, but to me he feels like sore loser who wants revenge for his humiliating defeat.

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>>152932806
Gee, I wonder how someone could have come to this conclusion.

>>152933088
Yeah they do, just because you're too retarded to follow the internal logic doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>152915664
Wow this thread is still here. I say his ability is pretty deadly if you have no knowledge of it.

>>152949359
its all ready reached that point I don't even read jojo but I can tell you that jojo memeing has been the most prevalent it has in a while pretty much every where I'm just sad that since the hiatus hunter threads have been reduced to this bait

>>152955657
>Are we really supposed to believe that anyone can analyze this shit in combat at once?
If I can believe that a Cell Knockoff can analyze 99 buddhist palms being deployed at near instantaneous speeds because he played chess with a blind girl.

Than yes, I can believe a guy who took a couple seconds to stand still in a fight can think of how his opponent could be coming after him.

Honestly the power scaling and super powers of each individual are super fucking retarded. This shit isn't even creative, it's the opposite infact. You need to be a pretty dull piece of shit to think this is decent writing.

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>>152963327

>>152921055
>>152922499
Nen users don't get a random ability, they have to think up one for themselves. They even explained that Castro/Katsutoro choose his wrong because it used Materialization which he wasn't strong at.

>>152956485
Besides anything with Kannon, Scream/Meleoron or Illumi's Needles/Deep Purple

>>152967646
what about apr

>>152967773
Couldn't APR + Meleoron's ability theoretically beat anyone?
You just have to manage to hide from the opponent long enough for them to bankrupt.

>>152951687
The list is bullshit btw.

>>152968114
my point exactly apr is theoretically unbeatable if you can't see knuckle or threaten him like youpi did with morel their combination is pretty compatible is there any other characters who can assist each other that well

>>152958752
Hisoka has ALWAYS been a sore loser, he just hides it so people think he's pissed off instead, which he is, but even then, he's always been that guy who hates to lose.

>>152969193
I dunno both of their abilities are pretty unique.

Maybe Shalnark's ability with...Leorio's? I mean if he can stick an antenna in you he's pretty much won right? And Leorio's ability would give him a longer range.

>>152969193
Knov and Meleoron. 1HK to anyone.

>>152971373
Starve people to death?

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>>152971431
Decapitation.

>>152915664
I hate his face. Least intimidating villain ever, worst character design ever.

>>152955657
wasn't there a scene between Youpi and Knuckle where he was about to die and he talks about how he thinks very quickly as he feels hes about to die? as if time slows down i think its described. but i cant remember. its something like that to explain it in HxH. been a while since i read it.

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Pitou didn't deserve death.

>>152972020
Zeno said something like that at the start of the palace invasion

>>152968114
It would be useless against someone with ridiculously good En like Meruem, the second he took a break to breathe he would be detected
not to mention that Chimera Ants have so much Nen that it would take ages for them to go bankrupt

>>152955657
You know how you look at a car outside your window and know what it is? Same shit here. It's knowledge he already has, it's just we, the readers, need the information conveyed to us somehow. He's not literally stopping to subvocalize all that shit.

This is stuff so many people get confused about manga, and it's only made worse when in anime adaptations they really do make them literally stop to subvocalize every thought in their mind.

>>152972799
>Zeno said something like that
he did? are you remembering something else like when zeno was talking about netero before the mission I'm sure anon is talking about something narrator-san said
>>152972886
>with ridiculously good En like Meruem, the second he took a break to breathe he would be detected
I was gonna counter argument you but I looked it up you're technically right the max amount of time melereon can hold his breath is only 1 minute but perfect plan makes your presence completely undetectable even by en which is why he wanted someone like gon to make a quick hit on the king

>>152915664
>the shittiest major arc of HxH is the only one where an MC like Gon takes out the main villain

really makes you think

>>152971941
That's the point tho. He looks like some nobody fodder and you don't expect that's the big evil until the surprise reveal. Sorry that 2011 spoiled it right in the opening and took the fun.

>>152973375
>are you remembering something else like when zeno was talking about netero before the mission
I thought he also mentioned the time dilation thing there, did he not?

>>152968114
Meleoron + anyone with a human manipulation ability (Shalnark/Illumi)

Just walk up, stick em with a needle, and it's all over.

>>152973727
I don't remember but that seems like something the narrator would say considering he talked a lot in the arc specifically

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he wont disappoint us right? he'll have a great hatsu

>>152971373
this.
Togashi realized Knovs power could effectively one shot meruem when combined with meleoron, so he had to be taken out of the story.

>>152974016
no, it was specifically Knuckle thinking about the situation hes in when youpi is about to finish him off, i think its trying to show that his thoughts are in an adreniline rush while it illustrates the scene to be moving in slow motion, and knuclkle expresses his surprise as to why hes thinking so quickly.

>>152973632
The reveal is so early in the arc that it's not even that surprising. And he doesn't do that much throughout the arch to be that intimidating.

>>152974229

He got paired with one of the youngest and most defenseless princes for a reason.

>>152922865
Gambit from X-Men?

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>killing this cute thing

>>152971516
Damn, forgot about that. Too OP.

>>152920653 Chiermra ant arc was to dragged out. narrator was so annoying why won't he shut up kek.

>>152972502 That furry got what she deserved I wanted to see Kite's other powers.

>>152978589

>Furry

I can't see fur

>>152974229
Togashi had better not do to these guys what he did to Bow and Arrow guy and Wasp woman.

I want Punch Poet, Hattori Hanzo, and Melody to all make it out of there alive. Biscuit too.

HxH is just a cheap copy of Yu Yu Hakushou, togashi should sue whoever stole his work and turned into this shit

>>152978589
fuck off Gon