Why does this series feel like it was written by someone with

/m/ will try to tell you it's the subs but Japs said the same thing. Tomino self-parody. Only good part was the OP and a small number of the battle scenes

>>152638909
I like the designs and the setting, and there is a somewhat interesting story under all the nonsense, but it feels like I'm watching something made by an autistic person, or an alien.

>>152638909
What is weird is that many Japs and western fans will praise Zeta as one of the best series of all time when it has the same level of writing and storytelling.

>>152638745
Give up. You aren't intelligent enough to comprehend it.

>>152639235
That's absolutely wrong. Zeta's writing is nothing like this.

>>152638745
>I can't accept anything that doesn't conform to the rules of conventional storytelling.

>>152639239
G-Reco outs so many retards here.

>>152639309
It has some similarities (even 0079 does) but Reco is more like a bad Turn A than it is like Zeta

>>152638909
>Japs said the same thing
No, one guy said it>>152638745
>Why does this series feel like it was written by someone with only a tenuous understanding on how humans behave and interact with each others, and no grasp on storytelling whatsoever?
Only if the person watching never interacted with humans, tell me OP how often o you socialize?

>>152639327
Did you missed the part where I said that it isn't just absurd by conventional storytelling standards, but also compared to every art house and experimental fiction I've seen?

>>152639444
Feel free to name any other piece of entertainment where the characters talk and act like in G Reco, and with similar storytelling.

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Because you started watching anime after the year 2000.

Your brain has been permantly tainted by the likes of Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece being your primary exposures and then turned into pure liquid shit because you watched garbage like Darker than Black, Gurren Lagann and Code Geass.

You are a literal subhuman in the anime fandom.

>>152639468
Give me an example of unconventional storytelling.

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I'm 44 episodes into Gundam Age. When does it get bad?

their society is legit fucked up and they treat war like a schoolyard game of pretend where you can arbitrarily choose sides.

>>152639596
It already has. You're just a shiteater.

>>152639563
L'Année dernière à Marienbad, Resnais.

>>152639434
>is more like a bad Turn A
Plotwise probably but in terms of writing Turn A is one of the most accessible Tomino shows. That's why plebs like it so much.

>>152639530
Every anime ever, including your shitty Beboping Cowboys, Stars that happen to be Outlaws, and The Utena

>>152639671
>Turn A is one of the most accessible Tomino shows.
You forgot to put an #AlternativeFact in your post when you mistaken this site for Twitter

post jaburo 0079>post moonmoon ZZ>pre jaburo 0079>zeta> pre moonmoon ZZ.
Prove me wrong.

>>152639602
Turn A worked that way sometimes too. When Reccoa betrayed AEUG it was meaningful and made sense but lately it's just "Oh, I was on a side? Our culture forgot how to form in-groups since that's not a instinctual human behavior or anything" and nobody cares at all

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>>152639628
But this is literally the best character in any Gundam series

>>152639680
That would imply that Bebop and Utena have the same style of writing and storytelling, which means you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about.

>>152638745
>>152639530
>assuming there is any TV writer on the planet other than Seth McFarlan that can write realistic dialogue
>>152639596
Last three eps

>>152639680
Explain how these are similar to G-reco. Or each other for that matter

>>152639741
A thousand years of true peace will do that to you I guess.

>>152639715
I am not acquainted with Twitterlore. Are you saying that Turn A is not accessible?

>>152639758
>That would imply that Bebop and Utena have the same style of writing and storytelling
They do, G-Reco just does it better
>which means you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about.
Whine harder, ANN.
>>152639775
They are famous anime from Japan, you need nothing else, Evageeks.

>>152639799
Episodes 1 through 36 are subpar at best, would not recommend it to normies

>>152639741
A lot of characters like Mask never "swapped sides" everyone just seemed to have their own agenda they were working towards, it was like everyone in the main cast was at war with each other and any alliances were situational at best. I found it interesting.

Objectively the third best Tomino show and excellent spiritual successor to King Gainer.

Fight me cunts.

>>152639801
So are you saying that G Reco has better writing than every other anime ever made? And what about live action?

>>152639741
>When Reccoa betrayed AEUG it was meaningful and made sense
>meaningfull and made sense.
>Literally was just looking for a dicking and switches over because char wouldn't give her any.
Don't give me that she was broken by the war bullshit and she didn't consider herself a person anymore.
Lots of people got fucked over by the war, but you don't see them betraying their friends and gassing colonies because of it.
She is just a complete mental case.

>>152639801
This is /a/; Evageeks doesn't work as a boogeyman since no one cares about it in the first place

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>>152639878
Who the fuck would fight with someone objectively correct?

>>152639835
It's slow for people who like action but comfyfags love it. The narrative and the reasoning of the characters is very easy to follow.

>>152639905
Poor writing can be explained by Newtype autism.
Isn't Gundam wonderful.

>>152639878
What is King Gainer like?

>>152639905
That's the point though; she's a mental case. Exactly the reason real governments don't give security clearance to people with serious mental problems; they'd be vulnerable to that type of pressure. Recent Tomino isn't like that; people are just doing their own thing without trying to reconcile their individual goals with their social context or just doing whatever for no good reason.

>>152638745
Stick to A/Z

>>152639950
DAS IT MANE!

https://youtu.be/ZpL95IeYB0Q?t=869

>>152639957
Don't remind me, I was fine with Amuro and Pajeet, but it really got grating by the time with Katz and Sarah, who are very annoying themselves.
I know Katz is supposed to be a fucking idiot kid that was over his head in and idealized the war too much and died the stupidest way possible because of it.
It doesn't make him any less shit.

>>152639994
It's Russian Xabungle

>>152639957
His characters do the same the same the same thing even in his non-Gundam series so you'll have to think of a different excuse.

Anyone has the gif of Raraya going from laughing to crying in a second?
It encapsulates G Reco perfectly.

>>152640432
So poor writing without the gundam space autism excuse?

>>152640531
If you insist on the term "poor writing".
I'm just pointing out that "space autism" was never intended to be an explanation for it.

>>152640432
I've seen Daitarn and Zambot and the characters acted normally. He probably got worse when he was given more control and with age.

>>152640432
>he's never seen Xabungle

a sad existence

>>152639921
only Evageeks would say that

>>152639888
>So are you saying that G Reco has better writing than every other anime ever made?
No, just the trash normies like, top tier writing is something limited to Shoji Kawamori.

>>152640908
Wasn't he like super depressed during his time with the gundam franchise?
I am still going through it myself, but I heard he was at his peak depression when he was making victory.

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>>152641042
Depends on the series.
But from the look of things he was depressed while making Zambot too.

>>152641113
I haven't watched many old anime shows, I feel likecwarcging more since I really liked 0079's feel, but I first want to finish going through the entire gundam franchise.
I am on victory now but I have only watched the first episode.

>>152638745
>>152638909
man do people fall for ANN's misinformation so easily

>>152641888
What misinformation? You mean the review that call it bad? Rightfully.

>Too smart to hate Tomino

>>152642330
>agreeing with ANN's horrid reviews ever

Turn in your /a/ card

>>152642330
Hi ANN, came to /a/ to defend your bias are we?

>>152642330
yup, you forgot to put #AlternateFacts in your post and this is not Twitter

>>152642651
>>152642769
>>152642904
>everything who doesn't agree with me is twitter, ann, animesuki, etc
Pathetic, like hillaryfags who call everyone russian spies

>>152642960
*everyone
Oops

>over 2 years later and retards still don't understand G-Reco

It's not even funny anymore.

>>152643037
Just like this meme.

>>152642960
Except Hilaryfags are correct unlike Trumpfags
>>152643037
>>152643092
G-Reco is very easy to understand, it's called read the subtitles. If you do that then boom!

>>152643092
When will you let it go, anon?

>>152643037
I understand it and it was still bad.
>>152643140
No need to shill anymore, CTR.

>>152643140
I agree, it's very easy to understand, the plot, factions and themes are simple.
Unfortunately this doesn't make the writing not shit.

>>152643273
What's shit about the writing?

>>152643236
>No need to shill anymore, CTR.
I'll shill forever just to spite you.
>>152643443
Nothing, anon just got up from his afternoon nap

>>152643443
Pacing, tone, dialogue, characterization, basically the whole package.
Good concepts don't make a good show if the execution is shit.

>>152642960
>>152643140
Who is the Trump of Gundam?
Who is the Hillary of Gundam?

>>152643684
I can understand why someone would be bothered by the pacing and dialogue, lot's of things have been said about those, but they are distinctive features of Tomino's storytelling I've come to appreciate.
What's wrong with the tone? What's wrong with the characterization?

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>>152639186
The only bad thing about G-Reco was the pacing. Events happened one after the other leaving little time for the viewer to really get to know the characters, flesh out the side characters and really get that tension going.
It felt like watching a 50 episode series compacted to 25, something that was true.
Other than that everything else was good and it was enjoyable but the pacing issues and what they cause really drag it down.

>>152644019
>What's wrong with the tone? What's wrong with the characterization?
Nothing, ANN likes to whine

I loved it.

>>152644019
>What's wrong with the tone?
All over the place. Ruins any attempt at making the drama engaging.
>What's wrong with the characterization?
You liked the dozens of side characters left with barely any characterization? As a result of the pacing being shit, only the main cast got attention.

>>152638745
My theory is that it was on purpose. Trying to portrait how human might behave in the future, after horrible horrible wars.

>>152638745
I just don't understand how can Tomino knock it off the park with Turn A but fail in his very next try?

>>152638745
G-Reco is a case of art imitating reality where as the majority of Anime is just Anime imitating other Anime series. Of course /a/ is autisitic so they can't understand real human beings.

>>152644455
First, Turn A isn't that good. Second Tomino made a lot of (bad) anime between Turn A and G-Reco

>>152640908
>I've seen Daitarn and Zambot and the characters acted normally
In Zambot the bully character went through the Jin Family base with a fucking shotgun and accidently shot Kappei's mom. Nobody in Daitran 3 acts like a normal human
>>152641113
He wasn't depressed during Zambot

>>152644537
>Second Tomino made a lot of (bad) anime between Turn A and G-Reco
Wings of Rean...and that's it. Coincidentally Wings of Rean is the only Tomino work that has no value whatsoever, even Garzey's Wing is more entertaining.

>>152644323
>All over the place.
It's pretty consistent. Classical happy Tomino. Serious things happen but you are not supposed to take them very seriously.
>You liked the dozens of side characters left with barely any characterization?
Yes?
>only the main cast got attention
Just like in any other show?
Though to be fair I don't think the main cast got more characterization other than through being in more scenes.
The focus of the narrative is not so much to justify the existence of each individual character. The character are there to add life, color to the world. For example minor one-scene crew members have meaningful interaction with the main characters or with each other. Even the main characters are not defined by their reason for existence but by the fact that they exist. What matters is not how a specific character came to be but how they interact with their surroundings and with other characters.

>>152644740
And New Translation and Overman King Gainer which many Tominofags think is good for some reason

>>152644885
>And New Translation
Zeta Gundam was already bad.
>Overman King Gainer
Is not bad.

>>152638745
>Why does this series feel like it was written by someone with only a tenuous understanding on how humans behave and interact with each others, and no grasp on storytelling whatsoever?
Sounds like pretty much any anime coming out these days.

From what I remember, in the first episode Belry literally delivers the orange haired girl, who was a prisoner at the time, all the way from her collapsing prison back to her Gundam and just kind of walks along side her, yelling for her to stop but not making any kind of physical attempt to prevent her from getting into the Gundam. She gets in, he just follows behind her, they go out and fight some mooks in mechs, Belry at some point takes the controls from her and kills her commander or something. This whole sequence made absolutely no sense. Belry's motivations in this scene have been established as A) he's interested in orange haired girl, possibly romantically, so doesn't want her to die, but B) wants to prevent her from attacking his comrades, since he's a soldier working at this military base. 1/2

Tomino really likes characters not finishing their sentences or just yelling out random words all of a sudden with no rhyme or reason.

>>152647619
Judging from how his character and motivations have been established, you would expect him to physically bar her way somehow, like by grabbing her or threatening her with a gun, but he doesn't. Instead he (and every other soldier present and in the area) simply let her walk into her mech, uncontested. So, explain this to me like I'm retarded. Why did Belry let her get in the Gundam when it was well within his power to stop her at any time? Keep in mind that this is just one example indicative of the general problem with the writing in this show.

>>152640085
Gladly, I'd rather watch dog shit being shat than turd dry and going GGGGG.

>>152647619
>>152647806
Because he's a kid.

>>152647945
Okay, so what?

Do you think that Tominoe was experiencing altheimers while making this show?

>>152648209
Depends, would you describe what you're experiencing right now as
a) the pleasure of making a bad bait combined with a poor joke
b) the pleasure of making an ignorant comment
c) the pleasure of being cummed inside
d) the pleasure of shitting on a guy who used to be successful
e) the pleasure of getting a (you)

>>152648167
What? I answered your question.

>>152648363
No you didn't. Him being a kid doesn't change his established motivations or his ability to stop her. You need to explain what "being a kid" has to do with his willingness or ability to stop her from getting in the Gundam. Remember, I'm retarded.

>>152648473
>Remember, I'm retarded.

Oh silly, me, I forgot. >>>/AZ/

>>152648695
As much as Greco fans love to insult other people for "not understanding" the series, I've never seen them actually defend against criticism of the writing. Even in airing threads, the response was mostly just dismissal.

Is no one able to explain this >>152647619 to me? I'm genuinely curious. I'd like to understand why people think this scene makes sense.

>>152648312
>Wings of Rean
>good
>Also Daitarn THAT LOW
Not even

>>152648908
I already did though. It's not my fault you're a literal retard.

>>152648473
Well, according to Tomino children are less able than adults to handle challenging situations with the needed gravity or make decisions that take into consideration the long term consequences of their actions.
According to Tomino even adults may not always be capable of reacting properly to a situation they are not accustomed to.
Absurd, isn't it.

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G Reco is not that bad, and the only faggots that bash it are the ones who think IBO is good.
Good character design with interesting mechs and setting. Other than it not being 50 episodes to expand the story I really don't see the problem.
Still need to watch King Gainer, Turn A was amazing so I'm sure I'll like it.

>>152649158
There's a difference between " not always being capable of reacting properly to a situation they are not accustomed to" and being completely detached to whatever is happening to the point of not having any agency, and being dragged by every event without reacting in any way.
G Reco's characters seem not to care in the slightest about whatever is happening, going through the motions and treating everything like a joke. Like bad actors acting in a play without much conviction.

>>152649858
>G Reco's characters seem not to care in the slightest about whatever is happening
And it is clear you never watched it

>>152649900
And it is clear you keep avoiding discussion.

>>152647619
You're a special kind of retard.

>>152649858
Who in particular other than the kid characters like Bell or Noredo?

>>152650045
How about actually explaining the scene?

>>152650121
1st: You're wrong about the cenario, there's various flaws that should be fixed if you watched the episode again.
2nd: Your memory is ass and I don't care to spoonfeed you.
3rd: Seriously, just watch the episode.

>>152650097
"Kid characters" don't get a pass to act illogically.
Do we want to compare G Reco's kids to the crew of the White Base?

>>152639715
>>152639835
>#AlternativeFact
>normies

Fuck off

>>152650187
>I don't care to spoonfeed you.
Sure thing.

>>152650267
Here's an extra (you) for good measure.

>>152650229
Are you implying that the crew of White Base act logically?

>>152650293
One for you too, typing "retard" and then a bunch of excuses must have been draining.

>>152650335
Just watch the episode, maybe you'll understand it this time.

>>152650321
Feel free to point out all the times when they didn't, acting like G Reco's characters.

>>152650364
You sure have time to waste for someone that didn't want to bother to say where the post was wrong.

>>152638745
Because Tomino is literally autistic. It's a pattern with all of his anime, but some are little bit more coherent than other.

>>152639530
>no answer
I guess G-Rektards finally got btfo?

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G-Reco was really fun which is a lot more than can be said about most recent Gundam and mecha series.

And no one talks about IBO, poor IBOfag ;_:

>>152650419
Amuro stealing the Gundam , Sayla stealing the Gundam etc. These are not usually regarded as acts of unusual intellectual brilliance.

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>>152651620
We're busy building this sexy beast

Can't wait for MG Self lololololololol

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G-Wrecko was fucking awful. It's like they took the outline of a 50-episode story, filled in characters and events to move the story along and provide points of reference, then compressed the fucking thing down to 20-some episodes.

No exposition, no rationale, no character development, no infodumps (fuck you they're useful and can be well-done), and a hilariously rapid timeline of events made everything feel halfassed and forced. Honestly, I don't even know if they could have salvaged the show by making it 24eps.

And that fucking nobody-wins excuse for an ending was a hemorrhoid cherry on the diarrhea-crusted vomit cake.

I'm mad because the animation was, overall, great. It was just completely wasted on a shit series.

>>152649025
>>152648312
>turn a
>mediocre
Kill yourself.

>>152651534
if you want fun mindless gundam, the build fighter series are what you're looking for

>>152651620
IBO hasn't really felt like a typical gundam series, not sure what to think of it

>>152654456
* by making it 50 eps

Everything about this series is so hilariously poorly executed.
Bellri killing Aida's fuckbuddy and his instructor.
The brother sister reveal.
"I'm shooting you, please don't die!"
Mask in his entirety.

>>152654456
>IBO hasn't really felt like a typical gundam series, not sure what to think of it

Season 2 is definitely better than the first.

Plenty of actions, crazier Mika, stupid sexy Gundam Vidar and less Jewhime

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>>152654775
>BELLRI, MUH KUNTALA PRIDE1!1!!!1

I used to think that Chronicle is the lamest Char, but this guy took the shit cake and ate it

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>>152654456
>>152654775
You folks are the reason why I prefer to hang out on /a/

More common sense and less cringey wanking to some old hack who doesn't even like westerners

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>>152655226

>>152655341
Dude so ugly, no wonder his colleagues spread rumor about him getting cucked by Quess' VA

>>152644056
The script was pretty shit too. The plot was jumping around all over the place with little to no explanation.

>>152655607
>cucked

Fuck off

>>152638745
It's written by Tomino. His women are especially egregious in how alien they're portrayed. TOMINO WOMEN isn't just a baseless meme. He's had some bright spots in the past but G-Reco is some of the worst directing/writing I've seen from him.

>>152639671

I dunno, Turn A was good but it's SO FUCKING SLOW. This series did not need to be like 50 episodes long, I'll probably never watch it fully again honestly.

>>152651620

So far I like IBO more than Wing and Turn A, and I like it about as much as 00.

>>152656192
Any problems with it also stem because of the pacing.
Events follow one another quite fast as if to manage to cram all of the story into what little time they have. The explanation is there but the build up that requires time isnt there.
The overall whimsical nature of the show does hide that somewhat but the problem is still there.

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>>152657791
>Tomino wanker

Stay mad

or fuck off back to /m/

>>152659029
More like you should fuck off back to /pol/, faggot.

>>152638745
What's with this show that attract so many shitposters? I've never seen anything good happening whenever this show is mentioned.

>>152638745
>it was written by someone with only a tenuous understanding on how humans behave and interact with each others
Miyazaki warned all of us that we need to interact with real humans in order to properly animate human characters. This triggered waifufags losers who have no friends, let alone girlfriends, so they shat on him whenever they can. But just because you hate him doesn't mean he's wrong: you now reap what you sow.

>>152638745
Limited experience with fiction? Tomino's always been guilty of dialogue that can be more wonky than stylized, and I didn't care for G Reco (though I don't think it's completely awful), but the characters aren't exactly incomprehensible. It's a poorly structured series, not the work of an extraterrestrial.

>>152640525
Not the same guy but I neeedd this

>>152662792
If you don't like being told to go back there then you shouldn't sound like the type that comes from there, faggot.

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>>152659029
Discussion in /m/ about Reco is the same shitshow. In reality here we seems to have people genuinely trying to discuss. In /m/ as soon as the series ended there was a explosion of badly made bait threads, "Why Reco is the best mecha series of all time" or "Why Reco is pure hot horse shit" always made by the same people and generally opened with some stupid /tv/ meme. Iirc, the last one that I saw, some few days ago, was "Why Reco is the Citizen Kane of mecha" or something like that.

With so much shitposting and both sides of the discussion absolutely adamant in their positions, people simply abandoned any attempt of seriously discussing the series and now the majority of those threads are simply image/gif dumps.

It is kind of pathetic. And I'm still wondering why this series in specific attracted so much shitpost. It is a standard modern Tomino series; the characters, the dialogues, the bizarre pace and the lack of raw exposition are things that are not new and we already have seen it before on his former works, like King Gainer.

>>152664525
Isn't G-reco like the first gundam he made in a long ass time or something?
I don't think most seasonal anime watchers have watched the old UC shows.
So this can be for many their first tomino gundam.