So Plastic Memories was pretty okay; ; Plastic Memories

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>>152565452
Do staff ever confirm if it was her at the end?

>>152565452
Why does Japan love this series SO FUCKING MUCH, but western fanbase seems nonexistent?

>>152566269
Because dogakobo western fans only eat random moeshit. Good thing the west is not relevant.

>>152565534
It's left to the imagination

I'd guess it's a boy though

http://may.2chan.net/b/res/460418092.htm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_V2ePxScE8


>>152566269
Normalfags of the West think Your Cancer in April is better.

>>152566757
I really like Alya's character song.
It still hurts a bit when I listen to it though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckU2bAGgiY

>>152566269
I don't know, I like it too if that counts for anything.

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>>152566644
Did this become a cult hit in japan?

>>152565452
I was expecting it to go full psyco pass

>>152566269
Because the show epitomizes "forced drama". Still liked it though

This is probably one of the most underrated shows.
True, the story became pretty obvious after a few episodes, but I still felt really sad from the ending. Half of me wants a sequel with a new version of her, but I know that this is a series best left alone now.

was enjoyable felt like they could've done more with what they had, a real thinker about mortality and what does it mean for AI do they fear it, and if they do do they pick it up from humans or just from existing?

>>152567104
I thought it subverted it well by getting the whole "twist" out the way early so the rest of the show is just them trying to make the best of the time they had left together.

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>>152565452
I'll never forget Isla!
I want to be Isla's onii-chan!

>>152567104
Any work of fiction is forced. "Forced drama" is a forced meme.

>>152567104
Forced post.

>>152567155
Well, they didn't try to hide what the purpose of this show was.
I mean in episode 2 they say Alya got about 4000 hours left. You have to be pretty dense to not figure most of the show is about her "death"

I blame /g/ for giving her such a short life.

>>152567354
Yeah, what's up with that? How comes that they turn into shit after a mere decade or so?

>>152567065
>>152567177
The place where they stored dead androids was FISHY AS FUCK.
I expected the show to turn really dark and dystopian after answering few points:
>why the fuck they become total rampaging mouth frothing animals after set amount of time
>how it is possible to predict moment of degeneration to exact day?(smells of planned obsolescence)
>who are those shady types in suits tasked with "recycling" of used bodies
>how society allowed for seemingly unlimited skilled workforce to be produced in factories?

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>>152567207
Me neither anon. They'll always be alive and well in our hearts.

honesty i liked the show. one thing i liked was they purposely say that youre getting a "fuck you" ending and they dont pull back the punch at the last second. I really expected them to make isla not "die" honestly

>>152566269
Because it too formulaic for the civilized western audience to enjoy AND feel smart about it.

Despite not being that good, I enjoyed this anime. Whoever shat on it can go fuck themselves.

>>152567459
The downside of technology that almost imitates life perfectly.

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I loved the simpleness of it. It was just a story of love and loss that didn't try to bite off more than it can chew.

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>>152567492
Hoping some day someone translates some of the side materials.

>>152567881
Any links to the raws? There's that not-Asuka tsundere comic right?

>>152567492
Is a shame they never touched those topics.

>>152567935
There's also a lightnovel that contains a bunch of side stories. One of them has Tsukasa and Isla visiting a giftia store front and going through the various giftias in the showroom with some of the various models that can be purchased and their histories.

http://dengekibunko.jp/newreleases/978-4-04-865409-8/
www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4048654098/

>>152568660
Damn, I'm sold on the illustrators. Maybe I should pick that up (I mean, buy and read for myself, got no time to translate though) in one of my future shopping sprees.

>>152567657
What if they planned obsolescence since they are a durable good monopoly? Is this their solution to the Coase conjecture?

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>>152566269
I hated it on my first look and somehow ended up checking it out 2 years later to fall in love with Isla.

I'll remember it for taking inspiration from Evangelion.

>>152569065
such a good series when you get through it all. fucking ferris wheels man "and now its almost time for this dream to end"

>>152569248

The Ferris wheel was just uncalled for. You know what would happen in that single cycle. Fucking onions in my room.

>>152569421
i seriously expected him to pussy out with the rings throughout the whole scene. kept waiting for the "love beats all" anime logic to pop in. nope, just dick punches and sadness

It made me pretty sad considering you know what would happen from probably the first episode. You go through all the episodes telling yourself that she's going to have to go away at some point and try to build yourself up.

And yet you still feel sad.

Anyone mind spoiling me on how the game ended for Isla?

>>152565452
Did the game add something interesting?
Or only Isla SOL moments
not that I mind

I really appreciate that they followed through on the ending, and that there was no miracle cure at the last second or anything like that. And they didn't make the scene melodramatic, with loud cries of anguish or a swelling, overpowering orchestra. Instead it was quiet, and very intimate, and that much more emotionally powerful for it. Because we had proper build-up to this moment, we didn't have to be told how they felt: we were feeling it, too.

However, I feel like the sci-fi setting kind of introduced more problems that benefits. It offers the benefit of a specific time of death known in advance, which is convenient for dramatic timing. But there are really broad implications of things barely touched on, and generally poor instances of world building. Since the giftia problem is essentially a plot-defined terminal illness, it seems like the thematic center of the show would have worked just as well if Isla and the other giftia who died just had terminal illnesses. Then we wouldn't have had the distractions of things like berserk giftia, which really didn't add anything to the central theme. At best, it was a somewhat poorly executed metaphor for having to know when to let people go, because you don't want your last memories of them to be of someone made unrecognizable by illness.

>>152571032

I was holding out for one of those miracle cures exactly because of the world given. If Isla was a normal human being then I'd have completely accepted the ending given however because she was a giftia it always gave me some form of hope for some asspull miracle cure and I was disappointed that it wasn't the case. I loved the series and the ending but I always hoped things would turn out better in the end, one way or another. ;_;

>>152571313
I also wish Isla had lived, but the whole point of the show was that she wouldn't survive.
They would have ruined the entire premise of they didn't kill her off at the end.

>>152571313
I can understand that. The thing with stuff like that is sometimes the miracle happy ending ends up kind of negating the theme of the work. Plastic Memories was about accepting loss, and not allowing fear of the pain of loss to prevent you from enjoying life and forming relationships. It said that the joy of creating those memories is worth the pain of losing the one you created them with, and that their remembrance doesn't have to be all pain. But if Isla was saved in the end, then they wouldn't have had to deal with the consequences of that ideal: that is, they wouldn't have had to deal with the pain of loss. It would be like the writers don't even believe in their own message.

These thread should be filtered because i still cry like a bitch thinking about it.

I happened to rewatch the ferris wheel scene yesterday. I bawled just like I did the first time.

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>>152572093

Of course. I understand the reasoning behind it and I'm more than happy with the series as a whole but it just felt like unnecessary hope to me. I know that the whole giftia plot was used to that we know exactly when she is going to expire but at the same time it also has the feeling of "Well, she's an android. We can clearly do something about it." Maybe not for the anime but as a route in the game or something, perhaps.

>>152567534
Superior robot drama by far.

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>>152569902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAK316i62u0

A lot

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Predictable plot, but man, still felt hard.

>>152572765
Did they show refurbish Isla at the end?

>>152566644
It's not even there though.

E-errar.

>>152567295
>Alya
I'm fucking triggered

>>152569542
Isn't that life though? I mean, you know your parents or your grandparents or whatever and whoever you love is going to die one day, likely before you do but knowing that doesn't make it any less sad when it happens.

>>152572934
It just 404'ed
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/460455617.htm
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/460468189.htm

>>152572754
Not anywhere close, anon. Just finished it a few hours ago. It was okay. Waiting on subs for the movie.

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>>152572926
That guy has been doing a full playthrough but hasn't reached the end yet.

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Did they fuck?

It's unfortunate Aniplex is the one who licensed.

Any other shows that have sadness like this but aren't too melodramatic?

>>152576138
I never understood why people called this show "sad", aside of the first episode everything else was simply full joy, even the ending felt rewarding, Isla lived just like she wanted her last days, like any other person would knowing the end was coming. I think people just complained about the fact that they never explained why the fucking limit duration existed (hey, even I complained about that) but, that's how it was, there was no need to understand why, just live the experience that was given.

>>152576138
Clannad After Story is the only thing I've seen that comes close.

Is this show worth watching?

>>152577061
Best Dogakobo.

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>>152577620
Perhaps but I liked MJP more.

I'm fucking mad with this series, excellent Worldbuilding, wrong genre.

With all those stuff revealed about the robots, their life expectancy, their rampage, fucking damn, this could have been a fucking awesome action series.

I felt the drama too obvious, since day 1 we could predict how it will end, there wasn't any mystery.

>>152565452

the SOL was super comfy, too bad it tried to be blade runner near the end and failed

>>152573179
Seriously though when will the movie get subbed?. It came out ages ago.

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>>152577821
According to the interviews, it originally was going to be an action series but they changed their minds mid production.

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>>152578264

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>>152578314
Is that proto Isla? Reminds me of a battle harem heroine and hero. >>152578264

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>>152578350
That's Michiru

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>>152578350
This is proto Isla

>>152576695
Fuck off.

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>>152578264
Tsukasa was originally going to have a cyborg arm and leg.

>>152576545
Fine, call it bittersweet if you want

>>152578386
>>152578424
>>152578424
>>152578455
I am glad this shit was discarded

>>152577821
Action series are often done wrong. We got tons of them and most of them are generic shit.

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>>152569098
hmm

>>152577821
>this could have been a fucking awesome action series.
There are people who actually would have prefered a show focusing on the dumb psycho-pass BS we got a few episodes in?

>>152569065
There's no way it's been two years already.

>>152577821
The ending is literally the less important part of any story. Good or bad it only lasts a moment, the journey is what matters.

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>>152577802
I always forget MJP is a Dogakobo project.

Stupid dumb robots deserve to die

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>HFW WRONG HOLE

>>152572878
>watch this
>she smiles
>spontaneously start crying

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>>152585013
ITS TOO BAD SHE WONT LIVE BUT THEN AGAIN WHO DOES

>>152576640
Clannad After Story makes this show look like a sunny day at the beach

>>152585335
Not with that dragon balls ending, clannad is not only shit but also vastly overrated by newfags too

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>>152577613
>GOES STRAIGHT FOR HER TITS

JAPAN IS TRULY ON ANOTHER LEVEL

>>152577613
3DS version when?

>>152578264
>ACTION!
Bubblegum Crisis already had 2 animes.

>>152577821
>this could have been a fucking awesome action series.
I fail to see how.

>>152585784
Think Bubblegum Crisis but the expired Giftia won't turn into monstrous Boomers and retains their normal exterior... which is kinda better for a mystery / serial killing genre.

I thought this show was really mediocre. The only thing it really had going for it was the animation quality. As a crying anime it was mechanical and lacking in impact

>>152585855

only other thing it had going for was the edits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO9EaGDngto

>>152585843
Never watched Bubblegum Crisis.
I feel like focusing on hunting down maddened robots would have become repetitive in the long run. Instead, the way Plastic Memories did it, we were able to care and feel for the robots being disposed of.

>>152578264
>>152585646
>>152577821
I would prefer to leave it as it is with maybe 2 episodes going super dark like in Shuffle mood swing phase.
Maybe let MC discover the truth about the world when he is investigating the reset process for giftias, only to let it slide because he wants to concentrate on making last days of his waifu into happy memories.

This series really triggers my autism I got from conspiracy novels.

>>152586093
>Never watched Bubblegum Crisis
You actually have the correct idea: hunting down maddened robots (they call it "Boomers" in-universe) with some sort of arching plot.

While, I do have problems with the lack of pseudo-technological explanation about things like why there's no progress in terms of memory capacity (It's been years and no changes there? I just assume in my head-canon that newer models have a slightly longer/better storage capacity and the Giftia didn't start with the current 10 year limit) or the supposed subplots that went nowhere (like the underground fake Giftia retrieval or people trying to run away with their expired Giftias), I too like how they made us feel for those disposed robots.

>>152586350
>While, I do have problems with the lack of pseudo-technological explanation about things like why there's no progress in terms of memory capacity

I offered an hypothesis here >>152568951

I dropped the show when they go on a date to some theme park or something.
Did he stick it into her later on?

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>>152577613
https://twitter.com/M2_Emote_ofc/status/776581978736832512/photo/1

Don't bully Elsa's nips!

>>152587014
Is Isla even anatomically correct and complete?

>>152587014
No. They are puro.

>>152585869
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO9EaGDngto

That triggered me enough to wear a pussy on my fedora.

>>152586952
I blame my technical background but just planned obsolescence won't cut it for me. Just look at how technology for PCs and smart phones have progressed between years.

Which is why I go for the models in my head-canon: early Giftia models has a fewer memory capacity but as time progresses, the latter models have better memory capacity but is still limited. Also, you can't expect the mechanical parts of an entire Giftia which have been running 24/7 to be all fix with a simple memory wipe and some clean-up (unless Giftia is closer to a car than a PC/smartphone).

>>152585784
>>this could have been a fucking awesome action series.
>I fail to see how.

>Plastic Slayer in ANIMATION!
>Elsa : SAYONARA!!!!
>KA-BOOM!
>Anime saved.

Something like that.

>>152574072
Hai desu.

>>152587362
I don't get it

>>152587157
The smartphone and PC markets are oligopolies. The giftia market is monopolistic.

>>152587157
If Giftia could live for over 10 years they could start being a problem for the people in charge.
They are the perfect workforce, but could get too smart after 10 years of real life experiences.
Now that I think about this the rampage of expired Giftias could be deliberate flaw that makes society pressure the Giftia's owner into returning them to the collectors.
Without it people would just keep them or even try their own methods to prolong their activity.

>>152588529
How does the business side of Giftia even work? Is it subscription based with a maximum limit of the lifespan of the borrowed Giftia?

>>152588721
>They are the perfect workforce, but could get too smart after 10 years of real life experiences
Or it could get too dumb. Or maybe not. After all, that 10 years full of external stimuli/variables will yield different outputs... Just like a real human!

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>>152565452
wat do?

Not enough porn of this series

>>152589005
>Just like a real human!
That's the problem.
The smart ones would lead the rest and before you know it they are demanding equal rights.
And they could start upgrading the next generations themselves.
Humans wouldn't be able to compete with them.

>>152589005
>how does the business side work?

I do not know. But they make it look like there's one gigantic corporation that runs the entire business. If the market is even so slightly unregulated, this means that larger incumbents like the one the MC works for have driven out smaller competitors and entrants setting up barriers to entry and by using exclusionary practices. This is what I believe, at least.

>>152589005
>How does the business side of Giftia even work?
Monopolist, stagnant, backwards. A bit like computer laptops. There's no laptop monopoly, but it's all the same garbage anyway, unless you pay premium.

>>152589005
Idea is something like this.
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/17/01/23/0542222/three-states-propose-dmca-countering-right-to-repair-laws

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>>152587090
>they molested the robot this much

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>>152581838
>My face when it really has been 2 years already

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>>152592112
>2 years

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>>152567459
Because otherwise the story they wanted to tell wouldn't have worked, anon.

>>152565452
It's only ok. Overall pretty dry. The shitty tsundere had no reason to be tsun or dere.

>>152572878
>Predictable plot
Anon, they pretty much tell you the ending.

>>152591072
>There's no laptop monopoly, but it's all the same garbage anyway, unless you pay premium.
>Muh Razer Alienware

They're garbage though.

>>152593055
This, it was never a secret to begin with.
Part of what made the Anime interesting for me.

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It wasn't perfect but it was still heavily underrated.

>mfw everyone shitposted about the "predictable" asspull that would save Isla

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That one song that made the scene, and made the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwAMPOrEn7Q&t=80s

>>152593499
It was kinda nice to expect them find a way to save her and get disappointed

>>152596137
Goddammit anon now I'm tearing up

>>152596137
Not enough SAYONARA!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZkB8g0JuOM

>>152593055
Funny people were smugly predicting she would die since ep 1 and the show straight up makes it clear not even halfway through. SO the rest it just them enjoying life together.

>>152597023
I already fwapped to AIDS-chan while watching Ep.1 , anon.

>>152597298
>Maymay tears are real
Enjoy your Ban