So Plastic Memories was pretty okay
Plastic Memories thread I guess
Do staff ever confirm if it was her at the end?
Normalfags of the West think Your Cancer in April is better.
Did this become a cult hit in japan?
This is probably one of the most underrated shows.
True, the story became pretty obvious after a few episodes, but I still felt really sad from the ending. Half of me wants a sequel with a new version of her, but I know that this is a series best left alone now.
was enjoyable felt like they could've done more with what they had, a real thinker about mortality and what does it mean for AI do they fear it, and if they do do they pick it up from humans or just from existing?
I'll never forget Isla!
I want to be Isla's onii-chan!
Well, they didn't try to hide what the purpose of this show was.
I mean in episode 2 they say Alya got about 4000 hours left. You have to be pretty dense to not figure most of the show is about her
The place where they stored dead androids was FISHY AS FUCK.
I expected the show to turn really dark and dystopian after answering few points:
>why the fuck they become total rampaging mouth frothing animals after set amount of time
>how it is possible to predict moment of degeneration to exact day?(smells of planned obsolescence)
>who are those shady types in suits tasked with "recycling" of used bodies
>how society allowed for seemingly unlimited skilled workforce to be produced in factories?
Me neither anon. They'll always be alive and well in our hearts.
honesty i liked the show. one thing i liked was they purposely say that youre getting a "fuck you" ending and they dont pull back the punch at the last second.
I really expected them to make isla not "die" honestly
I loved the simpleness of it. It was just a story of love and loss that didn't try to bite off more than it can chew.
Hoping some day someone translates some of the side materials.
There's also a lightnovel that contains a bunch of side stories. One of them has Tsukasa and Isla visiting a giftia store front and going through the various giftias in the showroom with some of the various models that can be purchased and their histories.
I hated it on my first look and somehow ended up checking it out 2 years later to fall in love with Isla.
i seriously expected him to pussy out with the rings throughout the whole scene. kept waiting for the "love beats all" anime logic to pop in. nope, just dick punches and sadness
It made me pretty sad considering you know what would happen from probably the first episode. You go through all the episodes telling yourself that she's going to have to go away at some point and try to build yourself up.
And yet you still feel sad.
I really appreciate that they followed through on the ending, and that there was no miracle cure at the last second or anything like that. And they didn't make the scene melodramatic, with loud cries of anguish or a swelling, overpowering orchestra. Instead it was quiet, and very intimate, and that much more emotionally powerful for it. Because we had proper build-up to this moment, we didn't have to be told how they felt: we were feeling it, too.
However, I feel like the sci-fi setting kind of introduced more problems that benefits. It offers the benefit of a specific time of death known in advance, which is convenient for dramatic timing. But there are really broad implications of things barely touched on, and generally poor instances of world building. Since the giftia problem is essentially a plot-defined terminal illness, it seems like the thematic center of the show would have worked just as well if Isla and the other giftia who died just had terminal illnesses. Then we wouldn't have had the distractions of things like berserk giftia, which really didn't add anything to the central theme. At best, it was a somewhat poorly executed metaphor for having to know when to let people go, because you don't want your last memories of them to be of someone made unrecognizable by illness.
I was holding out for one of those miracle cures exactly because of the world given. If Isla was a normal human being then I'd have completely accepted the ending given however because she was a giftia it always gave me some form of hope for some asspull miracle cure and I was disappointed that it wasn't the case. I loved the series and the ending but I always hoped things would turn out better in the end, one way or another. ;_;
I can understand that. The thing with stuff like that is sometimes the miracle happy ending ends up kind of negating the theme of the work. Plastic Memories was about accepting loss, and not allowing fear of the pain of loss to prevent you from enjoying life and forming relationships. It said that the joy of creating those memories is worth the pain of losing the one you created them with, and that their remembrance doesn't have to be all pain. But if Isla was saved in the end, then they wouldn't have had to deal with the consequences of that ideal: that is, they wouldn't have had to deal with the pain of loss. It would be like the writers don't even believe in their own message.
Of course. I understand the reasoning behind it and I'm more than happy with the series as a whole but it just felt like unnecessary hope to me. I know that the whole giftia plot was used to that we know exactly when she is going to expire but at the same time it also has the feeling of "Well, she's an android. We can clearly do something about it." Maybe not for the anime but as a route in the game or something, perhaps.
I'm fucking triggered
Isn't that life though? I mean, you know your parents or your grandparents or whatever and whoever you love is going to die one day, likely before you do but knowing that doesn't make it any less sad when it happens.
I never understood why people called this show "sad", aside of the first episode everything else was simply full joy, even the ending felt rewarding, Isla lived just like she wanted her last days, like any other person would knowing the end was coming. I think people just complained about the fact that they never explained why the fucking limit duration existed (hey, even I complained about that) but, that's how it was, there was no need to understand why, just live the experience that was given.
I'm fucking mad with this series, excellent Worldbuilding, wrong genre.
With all those stuff revealed about the robots, their life expectancy, their rampage, fucking damn, this could have been a fucking awesome action series.
I felt the drama too obvious, since day 1 we could predict how it will end, there wasn't any mystery.
According to the interviews, it originally was going to be an action series but they changed their minds mid production.
Tsukasa was originally going to have a cyborg arm and leg.
I always forget MJP is a Dogakobo project.
ITS TOO BAD SHE WONT LIVE BUT THEN AGAIN WHO DOES
>GOES STRAIGHT FOR HER TITS
JAPAN IS TRULY ON ANOTHER LEVEL
Think Bubblegum Crisis but the expired Giftia won't turn into monstrous Boomers and retains their normal exterior... which is kinda better for a mystery / serial killing genre.
Never watched Bubblegum Crisis.
I feel like focusing on hunting down maddened robots would have become repetitive in the long run. Instead, the way Plastic Memories did it, we were able to care and feel for the robots being disposed of.
I would prefer to leave it as it is with maybe 2 episodes going super dark like in Shuffle mood swing phase.
Maybe let MC discover the truth about the world when he is investigating the reset process for giftias, only to let it slide because he wants to concentrate on making last days of his waifu into happy memories.
This series really triggers my autism I got from conspiracy novels.
>Never watched Bubblegum Crisis
You actually have the correct idea: hunting down maddened robots (they call it "Boomers" in-universe) with some sort of arching plot.
While, I do have problems with the lack of pseudo-technological explanation about things like why there's no progress in terms of memory capacity (It's been years and no changes there? I just assume in my head-canon that newer models have a slightly longer/better storage capacity and the Giftia didn't start with the current 10 year limit) or the supposed subplots that went nowhere (like the underground fake Giftia retrieval or people trying to run away with their expired Giftias), I too like how they made us feel for those disposed robots.
>While, I do have problems with the lack of pseudo-technological explanation about things like why there's no progress in terms of memory capacity
I offered an hypothesis here >>152568951
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I blame my technical background but just planned obsolescence won't cut it for me. Just look at how technology for PCs and smart phones have progressed between years.
Which is why I go for the models in my head-canon: early Giftia models has a fewer memory capacity but as time progresses, the latter models have better memory capacity but is still limited. Also, you can't expect the mechanical parts of an entire Giftia which have been running 24/7 to be all fix with a simple memory wipe and some clean-up (unless Giftia is closer to a car than a PC/smartphone).
If Giftia could live for over 10 years they could start being a problem for the people in charge.
They are the perfect workforce, but could get too smart after 10 years of real life experiences.
Now that I think about this the rampage of expired Giftias could be deliberate flaw that makes society pressure the Giftia's owner into returning them to the collectors.
Without it people would just keep them or even try their own methods to prolong their activity.
How does the business side of Giftia even work? Is it subscription based with a maximum limit of the lifespan of the borrowed Giftia?
>They are the perfect workforce, but could get too smart after 10 years of real life experiences
Or it could get too dumb. Or maybe not. After all, that 10 years full of external stimuli/variables will yield different outputs... Just like a real human!
>Just like a real human!
That's the problem.
The smart ones would lead the rest and before you know it they are demanding equal rights.
And they could start upgrading the next generations themselves.
Humans wouldn't be able to compete with them.
>how does the business side work?
I do not know. But they make it look like there's one gigantic corporation that runs the entire business. If the market is even so slightly unregulated, this means that larger incumbents like the one the MC works for have driven out smaller competitors and entrants setting up barriers to entry and by using exclusionary practices. This is what I believe, at least.
>How does the business side of Giftia even work?
Monopolist, stagnant, backwards. A bit like computer laptops. There's no laptop monopoly, but it's all the same garbage anyway, unless you pay premium.
>they molested the robot this much
>My face when it really has been 2 years already
Because otherwise the story they wanted to tell wouldn't have worked, anon.
It wasn't perfect but it was still heavily underrated.
>mfw everyone shitposted about the "predictable" asspull that would save Isla
That one song that made the scene, and made the show.
Funny people were smugly predicting she would die since ep 1 and the show straight up makes it clear not even halfway through. SO the rest it just them enjoying life together.