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>Madhouse is dead they say >and yet they still put out

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>Madhouse is dead they say
>and yet they still put out better stuff than 90% of the competition
Is there any doubt that it's the best studio?
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White Fox
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>>152240888
Too bad nobody is going to talk about it on here. Maybe that's for the best though.
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>>152240888
the artstyle makes it look like fujoshit
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>>152240926
The slow pace of the first episode filtered all the cancer.
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>>152240975
You guys call anything fujoshit as long as males are included.
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>>152241028
As a teenager, I am insecure in my sexuality I don't want to come off as gay for liking a show that features males.
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>>152241225
It's funny how as a kid I thought the same about cartoons featuring females.
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>>152240888

Isn't it fujoshit?
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>>152242471
What?
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>>152242471
This is the state of /a/, guys.
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>>152240888
Is it me or it looks just like Un-Go?
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Acca animation looked great. It was enjoyable.

That dude in the white suit that doesn't like the peddler reminds me of viral from TTGL for some reason.
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It's a glorified cig ad.
Get cancer fags.
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>>152241028
Then they call anyone who says they are misusing the word a fujoshit. /a/'s favorite buzzword. True cancer.
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It makes smoking look so cool.
Too bad I just don't do it cause inhaling smoke makes no logical sense to me.

>>152241225
>>152241378
This really makes you think
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>>152242692
>>152242708

Saw this image on MAL and assumed it was fujoshift. Was I wrong?
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>>152243042
Done.
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>>152243042
>has good-looking males
>it's fujoshit

Also, you seem to have missed the entire female cast.
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>>152243042
Don't you have a sales thread to pointlessly shitpost in?
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C O M F Y
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>published in Monthly Gangan
I guess I'll pick it up.
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>>152243042
It's not fujoshit, but all the undesirables left over from the YoI threads will be in ACCA and Rakugo threads.
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Hugo Boss
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>>152243186
I hope the threads are but shitposters are already here.
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>tfw can't tell whether the guys calling this fujoshit are memeing or not
I really am thoroughly confused.
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>>152243111
>>152243150
>>152243219
>t's not fujoshit

Then I apologize for mistaking it for one.
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>>152243246
It's not
Watch first ep
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>>152243228
The design of the series makes me believe it's settled in an alternative universe where the Nazis won the war but then boring bureaucrats took the control.
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>>152243246
I just assume they are all underage b& and new.
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>>152243246
ACCA is kino.
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>>152240888
They're pretty much dead, dude. They've already split into three studios. Mappa, Voln and NUT. I dunno who's still left at Madhouse from the big names. Anyone can tell?
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>>152243331
That's not what I meant, I watched the episode already (and liked it). I was wondering whether people would unironically assume it's fujoshit for no reason at all.
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>>152243331
HS, Kaitou or $tore?
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I enjoy it and i hope no one here talks about it so i can enjoy it even more
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>>152243407
>I dunno who's still left at Madhouse from the big names. Anyone can tell?
Nobody.
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>>152243449
>$tore
If you're a cuck, sure
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>>152243469
Stay hipster. It suits you.
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>>152243407
>Mappa, Voln and NUT
Those have yet to produce anything of value.
Even in its undead state, Madhouse is superior.
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Green is best boy
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>>152243407
I can only think of Asaka and Ishizuka regarding directors
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Is this show this year's Rakugo?
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>>152244233
Uh
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>>152243111
Not his fault they are clearly marketing it to the fujo crowd.
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Would you wear it?
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>>152244528
Rakugo S2 is this year's Funo wo Amu.
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>>152244643
No that looks very badly made. Maybe if it were made with better fabric and by better tailors.
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>>152244643
The pants look awful. like some kind of tracksuit.
It'd be way more /fa/ with fit ones.
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Good episode for sure. The question is whether or not it'll stay good or turn to shit.
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>>152241225
>As a teenager, I am insecure in my sexuality
I have a bad news for you, you are already faggot.lol
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>>152244643
Cosplay already?
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>>152245222
lol served nice trips
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>>152241225
You're right to be concerned, don't you know that if you watch a series with more than one male main character, you instantly become bisexual? If the men are attractive and form close relationships then you turn full blown gay simply. More people need to be aware of the risks.
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>>152245250
Because everything what you are afraid, and think often about that, would may happen to you.
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I wonder if the cigarettes will be important later on in the story
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Could someone who read the manga tell will there be any action later? Is there going to be coup or something?
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>>152245329

Obviously cigarettes are a luxury in their world and expensive. Where does he get them? Where does he get money from?
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>>152243186
2000% effay
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>>152245704
He owns a condominium.
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>>152242708
Time to leave this shitty board.
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>>152243042
Fuck off back to MAL and never come back.
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>>152243246
Serves you right for being a retard.
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>>152242708
>>152242961
>>152245924
Grow some thicker skin, if that's all it takes for you to say the board is doomed then perhaps you should go back to wherever you came from.
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>>152246042
I'm old and jaded.
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>>152245685
Mate this is SoL, expect something like Bartender not Joker Game.
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>>152246463
Apart from the massive hints that the higher ups don't trust Jean and are setting him up for something?
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>>152246520
Dude, I don't read the manga, but I'm more or less familiar with this mangaka and considering her other works, you shouldn't expect anything too dramatic or fast paced.
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Well all except for 1 founder of Madhouse ( the name is actually a combination of their names ) left the studio and a ton of the staff followed them. So you can't deny that staff wise the studio is only a shadow of its former self.

The quality of their shows aside many of them actually happen due to some old staff returning on a freelance basis or someone completely taking over the production with the people he brings with him aka Natsume Shingo. That's what happened in OPM and that's most likely what happened in ACCA as well.
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>>152246687
>Saraiya Goyou
>not dramatic
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>>152247127
Eh, Goyou had a more serious tone, ACCA looks just like another SoL to me.
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>>152247497
>girls are colour-coded
>the guy is a bland self-insert-kun
I see what they did there.
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>>152246520
Also the King and the Prince being important characters. I bet the Prince will backstab his dad or something.
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>>152242471
No. The main guy has a thing for this semen demon. Don't know how it turns out since there only only one or two chapters translated.
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>>152243042
God they're all so hot, why couldn't there have been a bald guy too
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>>152247756
MC has good taste.
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>>152249318
Good news, anon!
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>>152240888
>Fujoshit
>Good
HAHAHAHA
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>>152249601
Kill yourself.
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>>152243042
How fucking huge is Payne?
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>>152243042
>>152245978

I'm also from MAL and I don't think this. So far it seems more intriguing than most of this season's anime and don't take it to heart.
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>>152246042
>where I came from
So here?
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>>152249791
Also jean is best boy from my predictions. hopefully.
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>>152243042
It's slow as a fuck.
Also I'm triggered by the smoking since I'm a medfag.

No amount of cute boys is worth this torture. Dropped.
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>>152249791
>MALtard
>like fujoshit
get outta /a/
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>>152242935
Zvezda pls go
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>>152250026
One day all your posts will be deleted and you'll get a 3-month ban. One day.
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>>152249971
Your pleb taste won't be missed fujoshit.
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>>152250277
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>>152249971
>No amount of cute boys is worth this torture. Dropped.

Good.
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>>152250367
>more people dropping it
>shitpostered triggered by "fujo" designs
Based. The trash taking itself out.
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>>152249971
>First episode
>2D cig
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>>152247127
Ristorante Paradiso was a SoL however.
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>>152249791
>MAL
Fuck off back there
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>>152247497
Did you even watch it?
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>>152251588
Which one ACCA or Goyou?
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>>152251651
ACCA. Despite the fairly relaxed atmosphere of the first episode, it's blatantly obvious it's not just "slice of life".
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>By the same guy who did House of the Five Leaves and Ristorante Paradiso
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>>152252108
>guy
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>>152251866
Sure, it's not going to be just the MC eating cake and smoking during the whole series, but it's going to be a main part of the show, you guys are expecting the plot to be some kind of spy game with rebels and shit, I highly doubt that anything like this will happen, maybe there will be some misunderstandings and some dramatic moments, but for the most part this is going to be just a chill and comfy anime.

But then, I don't read the manga, so maybe I'm wrong.
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>That OP
Full version when?
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>>152252174
I don't think it's going to turn into a super tense spy thriller any time soon, but labeling it as "slice of life" right off the bat just because it's slow-paced is stupid.
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>>152252755
I never said this was SoL because it was slow-paced, everything from Ono has this kind of pacing to begin with. Also, I didn't label anything, it is tagged as SoL.
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Where did the people who left Madhouse go to anyway?
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>>152253183
MAPPA, duh.
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>>152253359
It's a shame that it seems like all the talent went lost during the change.
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>>152253469
You shut your fucking mouth Garo and Ushio to Tora are AOTS.
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>>152247756
>>152249382
Atsuko Tanaka's voice is pure sex.
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>>152252621
I can't wait for the fucking full opening as well as the OST, especially the OST. That shit was smooth as fuck.
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Meh, settle down. This isn't exactly going in their pantheon. In fact, its entirely forgettable.
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>>152253601
And that war movie is great apparently.
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>>152253601
They're barely okay, the comparison between Madhouse and Mappa is nothing but embarrassing for the latter.
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>>152253652
It's literally been one episode. I'm not saying it's going to by AOTY, but to write it off this quickly is pretty retarded. Personally, I enjoyed the first episode more than anything else this season.
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>>152240888
I thought the animation for this was terribly poor, which is exacerbated by the slow moving plot.

The direction was also not that great. Most anime have either boring to awful shot composition, but this was on the lower end, with every shot looking terribly empty.

Every shot seems very empty, which might be an stylistic choice, but just doesn't pay off for me.

I'm not one to bash a series just because it's plot is slow, but this one is just boring all around.
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>>152253696
>Bahamut
>Garo
>Ushio to Tora
>Sakamichi no Apollon

Apollon's story was kind of shit, but I loved the visuals, overall Mappa is pretty okay, altough they do have some bad shows like Days or the one where the MC was a girl all along. I didn't watch Yuri on Ice, but it's pretty popular, so I guess it's something.
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>>152253845
It's going to get more exciting when it's revealed that the King is a puppet ruler and Jean and his sister are royalty and Jean almost gets assassinated.
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>>152253845
>which might be an stylistic choice
It obviously is. Just look at the first scenes with him in the huge bureau rooms. And I should mention that I love the colors, and how they adapted the character design.
And yes the animation is nothing special, but I don't think that especially damages the final product.
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>>152253881
>I didn't watch Yuri on Ice, but it's pretty popular, so I guess it's something.
The animation took a massive nosedive after the second episode and it had a tone of animator mistakes like characters wearing the wrong outfits or giving them features of other skaters, like their facial hair.
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>>152254060
Well, that's a shame. I still like Mappa though, they made plenty of anime I enjoyed. Not as good as Madhouse, but they are okay at least for me.
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>>152240888
>the best studio
You just admitted 10% of the competition puts out better stuff than them. So, no.
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>>152253881
Ushio is a decent adaption, it could have been better since they rushed over many things and the animation wasn't exactly amazing.
Garo I dropped and I barely remember.
Bahamut started out fun but lost steam quickly.
Apollon is a great adaption of an extremely mediocre source material.

You understand that a studio with this kind of output doesn't even compare to the Madhouse of a decade ago, right?
Not that I entirely blame them, they went under exactly because their stuff was too good for the industry they ended up in.
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>>152253845
>I thought the animation for this was terribly poor,
It's true that it doesn't move that much, but that's pretty standard for anime. The drawings were consistently good though and there was a couple of moments with nice movement, even if they weren't anything exceptional. I'm not sure what standards you have that would consider it "terribly poor" for an anime.

>>152253359
Mappa is where Maruyama went, but a lot of other people that were associated with Madhouse have gone their own way. Yuasa and Hosoda, for example, both started up their own studios.
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>>152254060
It also overall has less than mediocre writing.
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>>152253183
Mappa
Araki left after Death Note and went to IG.
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>>152254281
It really depends on the episode most were good but it tried to too too much too fast but it was obviously because of their budget. You can tell by watching. Hopefully, season 2 doesn't suffer the same fate but I doubt it will.
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>>152254311
He did Kurozuka with Madhouse too
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>>152254382
>writing quality
>having anything to do with budget
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>>152253996
Is this an actual spoiler or bullshit? Have you read the manga?
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>>152254460
They tried to rush the series. Where it could have been a better series twice as long, better fleshed out characters and animatio. They just took what they were given. Comapring it to Mine Fujiko with a better budget, it feels way less rushed and not lacking in those departments.
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>>152254390
I didn't even remember he directed that. Well then after that.
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>>152254602
I haven't read it, but I found a post on Tumblr that explained how the OP spoils the story.
http://adrianmenagerie.tumblr.com/post/155700316708/shadows-and-truth
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>>152254872
>pansexual, trans, male
>he/him

The spoilers in the OP are neat, but christ tumblr never fails to make me throw up. Why can't they just behave like normal human beings?
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>>152254673
If an original series is rushed, it's not "it should've had more episodes", it's "the writer should've adapted to the time they were given". If Fujiko Mine was better written than Yuri On Ice, it's because Mari Okada is better at that job than Yamamoto and Kubo are. Money does not enter into it.

And for all the importance you place on "budget", how do you even know what sort of budget either show had? Where do you get this information from?
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>>152253996
My biggest problem with it isn't that the plot lacks excitement, but rather that the characters and anime itself is boring to look at.

Even the washed out color palette looks boring, so I don't think any of what you posted (if it's even true) will fix that.
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>>152255533
Personally, I love the artstyle. It feels "comfy" and kind of old fashioned, and contrasts with the darker undercurrents of the story.
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>>152255286
Money doesn't one hundred percent affect it but helps a lot. Okada did what they did in 12 episodes and better and there are 12 episode series, orginals, that don't suffer from budget or writing problems. There was still a lot of potential in the series and story that seems to have went to waste by rushing it. There's going to be a season two any way and will have enough episodes to correct the problems of season 1.
Have you seen the amount of series they made last year and the QUALITY of these series? Days was a mess. Why someone would make a sports anime and not put a lot of effort into the soccer scenes is beyond me. They weren't giving an original anime a big budget with other series needing money as well and people expecting Bahamut S2 to be as high quality as S1.
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>>152250034
underrated post
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>>152246803
>Well all except for 1 founder of Madhouse ( the name is actually a combination of their names ) left the studio and a ton of the staff followed them
Why did this happen?
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>>152256704
When Maruyama fucked off when he drove Madhouse to the brink of bankruptcy.
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>>152240975
Your post makes you look like regular shit.

Faggot.
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>>152257319
>drives madhouse into $30 million debt
>gets bought out and saved
>complains, quits and forms mappa because he can't waste money anymore
>mappa has him on a leash and not finincing any show he really wants, only safe adaptions and fujo stuff

Hmm.
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>>152240888
I'm reserving judgement until I see what they do with CCS 2018
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I hope Madhouse does an anime original this year. Death Parade was almost 2 years ago.
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>>152261365
>2 overlord movies
>ngnl movie
>mahouka movie
>kimikoe movie
>possible opm 2

I think they can squeeze in 1 more series for 2017.
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>>152244643
The material looks very cheap. It is possible for something like this to look good, but it would need custom tailoring and higher quality materials to not look awful.
Source: I'm a dry cleaner, I touch shitloads of actual good clothes.
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>>152261909
>2 overlord movies
Recap movies. I know that there's some new footage but it's probably just a few minutes.

>kimikoe movie
What on earth is this?
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>>152241225
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>>152240888
What's this about?
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>>152262637
Politics and bureaucracy
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>>152262637
Tobacco and accounting.
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This is Madhouse's best work and there is nothing you can do to convince me otherwise.
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>>152263146
Wait till the seasons over bucko, lots of stuff starts off stylish and strong and ends up being garbage. And if you want to claim hindsight is 20/20 I'll kindly direct you to the archive.
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>>152240888
Honestly I am enjoying it so far. The general pace is comfy and I feel crazy shit is building up for some magical fun.
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>>152264375
I feel that way when I watch the OP. It makes me want to know who everyone is and what their issues are.
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>>152261909
Is Tachikawa's new original Madhouse?
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>>152257627
>mappa has him on a leash
Really? M of Mappa is literally stand for Maruyama.
They done YoI because they need to avoid another bankruptcy. So, they need to do some quick cash grab. You do aware most of the Mappa works are flops, don't you?
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>>152240888
Natsume Ono never disappoints. I really enjoyed Ristorante Paradiso and House of Five Leaves as well.
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>>152240888
every now and then they get a bad season.
this season is that season.
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>>152265867
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>>152243042
Such big guy!
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>>152267056
What an embarrassing resume.
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>>152267056
>People no liking Garo
Also the MC is based and fuck a cake
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>>152267056
What are you trying to imply? That all of Mappa works are flops except YoI?

Anyway, 3000 copies of other series (Kabaneri for example) >>> 3000 copies of Teekyuu. Since Kabaneri disc is way more expensive.
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>>152267056
It still amazes me that Garo got a second season AND a movie. Then again, I'm amazed that the live action series keeps getting new installments every year.
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>>152267174
I liked the cake "winning"
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>/fa/
>Nice character design
>Nice OP
>MC is not a faggot
>pretty comfy
That's it, It's ACCA and Gintama for me this season. Such a bliss to have only few series to follow each season.
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>>152249690

If the blonde guy beside him is 1,82m (6') then he must be at least 2,08m (6'10'') for the.

Of course, that's in human terms, proportions are not very accurate in most anime, but you get the idea. They are something around 10 inches apart in height.
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>>152267056
>garo this low
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>>152269086
To be fair the second season of Garo was atrocious. The characters and the setting were boring compared to Leon in the first season.
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>>152253881
>Apollon's story was kind of shit
The anime is adapted from manga.
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>>152241225
How old are you?
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>>152253881
He wasn't a girl, he was a guy trapped in a girl's body.
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>>152253881
Apallon is going to be bad for you if you don't like drama and teen angst. Days was okay but the CGI killed it. All spirts anime need to do is have fun characters and well animated matches and it failed with all the matches. All looked like shit.
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>>152243042
Definitely fujo shit.
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>>152254311
>>152254390
You both forgot HOTD. That was Araki's last work at Madhouse!
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>>152243042
>>152240888

Nice sausage fest, no thanks
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>>152240917
weak bait
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did anyone else feel like this ep 1 felt like an ep 7? we just kinda got thrown into the middle of a thing.
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>>152274764
Not really since nothing relevant has happened yet. It was just buildup.
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>>152274841
agreed, i just meant in regards to explaining shit.
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>>152265867
>They done YoI because they need to avoid another bankruptcy. So, they need to do some quick cash grab.
That doesn't make any sense. No one expected YoI to be a success, not even Mappa.
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>>152240917

I unironically prefer most of what Whitefox has made in the past 3 years over anything Madhouse has done.
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>>152275048
Anyone with half of a brain expected it to sell at least 10-20k ever since the ultra gay first PV.
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>>152240888

/a/ fujo defense force out in strength today. How can you blame anyone for thinking this looks fujo as fuck with those character designs and the fact that almost every major studio is appealing to fujo's more and more.

I don't know if this is but just looking at the character designs and the people that have been flocking to this new series like flies makes me want to think it's the next fujo thing after faggots on ice.

This place has been becoming more militant fujo like MAL is now lately. I mean, there's been fujo's on /a/ since forever but with all the cancerous new series like Yuri on Ice they seem to be on the rise here.
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>>152275373
Not in a season full of fujoshit anime with strong and established fanbases.
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>>152275516
It's not fujoshit though. Watching the first episode I didn't feel any sort of fujo vibe. I can see why the character designs make it seem so though.

But the story is a political/conspiracy type story. On top of that the MC isn't a faggot and is interested in this >>152247756 girl.
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>>152275658
Aside from Token Ranbou, which would that be? Don't claim that UtaPri is fujo. That one's a full-blown otome.
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>>152277571
People don't know what fujoshi is anymore, anon. Anything that doesn't pander to males = fujoshit
Even if its a shoujo series or an otome adaption.
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>>152277571
But it also has a strong fujo fanbase, that shit has tons of homo doujins. Just because something is otomeshit doesn't mean fujos won't latch onto it. Fujoshit will watch anything with generic pretty guys to ship them, they have no shame at all.
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>>152274189
Oh shit that was 2010 and Guilty Crown was 2011. How could I forget it with that OP.
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>>152278147
Yurifags watch and ship girls in normal harem anime with a heterosexual cast. Doesn't make it yuri.
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>>152278349
/a/ uses the word fujoshit for shit fujos are into it. No one is saying Kuroko or Natsume are actually gay when we call them fujoshit, just that fujos are into them.
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