Dragon Ball

Kill yourself stupid Ningens. Gods = Master race. Ningens = pathetic scum who should be purged

>>151787956
Shut the fuck up

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Reposting from previous thread, as some people are still confused over it:

The Supreme Kais are the gods of creation, they belong to the Shinji race and they are born from fruits. The ones born from golden fruits are automatically given god status while the ones born from regular fruits will most likely become King Kais or just attendants (like Kibito and the U6 green guy). However as shown by Zamasu, a regular Shinji can still become a god if powerful enough (he used to be the Northern King Kai of U10 before being noticed by Gowasu).
The job of a Supreme Kai is to create shit, that's it really. They aren't very powerful but they have high magical powers including the ability to teleport anywhere in the multiverse.
There's usually a main one (the Dai Kaioshin) and the ''back-up'' ones, when Buu killed everyone except Shin he technically became the Dai Kaioshin of U7 on the virtue of being the only one left

The Hakaishins are the gods of destruction, it's not clear what race they belong to or how they are chosen but their job is literally just to destroy planets or individual beings so that the universe is balanced. Beerus in fact was supposed to take care of Frieza, the Saiyans and Buu for clearly being threats to the balance but he didn't do shit because he's fucking terrible at his job.
Because their job is to destroy they are much more powerful than the gods of creation but lack high magical power (Beerus can't teleport, he needs Whis for travelling)
The hakaishins also get an angel that trains them and watches over them.

>>151787956
Fuck off.

>>151787896
Kys dipshit, New Years is like the Asian Christmas, it's their fucking holiday.
Your fucking filler can wait.

>>151787994
>teleportation is magic now
He went to the stupid dinosaur planet in roughly two minutes, he doesn't "need" Whis for traveling. He's fucking lazy.

>>151788017
I don't give a shit about their holiday you pathetic weeb. Shut up and stop wasting everyone's time with your useless information.

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>>151787896

>>151787956
oh please purge me take me away
shame that zeno is such a hothead

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DAMARE!

DAMAAAAREEEEEEEEEE!!

>>151788101
What's pathetic is you getting triggered over missing a dumb fucking filler episode.

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>>151787984
>>151787996
>>151788106
What's this? I spy with my godly eyes little upset Ningens who don't know their place. Zeno is a failure who lets you lowly scum roam around as you please instead of destroying the plague

>>151787896
Dude, it was a New Year! Nobody's supposed to work on New Year!

Let's apply logic here.
They can destroy mountains with one punch. But hitting someone on the skull doesn't break it? You can't train bones.

>>151788156
>triggered
>kys
Got any more memes/buzzwords you pathetic bitch? Or are you going to stop posting like you should?

>>151788161
Stop your autistic roleplaying or I'm going to find and kill you

>>151788230
They probably have Ki running all over their body, around bones and organs, to cushion the blows
They are literally surrounded by ki sometimes

>>151787896
>>151788101
>"REEEEEEE I'm entitled to my Chinese cartoon on New Years and all these chinks and nips better slave away in their sweatshops throughout their holidays! xD"
t. White trash. (You)

>>151788233
Only pathetic person here is you, make like Yamcha and die already.

>>151788272
>>151788305
t. faggot apologists

stop fucking posting. now.

>>151788349
Babby needs his filler on New Years or he gonna cry??

>>151788391
what the fuck did I just say?

stop posting.

>>151788258
great drive him away what should we do then? argue the same shit over and over without a episode
this is why your wife ran away

>>151788404
How about learning how to post without sounding like a whiny baby cunt first?

>>151788531
I'd love to beat the shit out of you.

>>151788494
jokes on you i'm a faggot.

>>151788540
Honestly, right now YOU'RE the one annoying everybody here.

>>151788540
>implying I would lose a fist fight to a mere toddler.

>>151788266
Probably like how the guys in Chronicle could make themselves nigh-invincible by enveloping themselves in telekinetic energy.
It would explain why even extremely powerful characters can get rekt by minor attacks if they're caught off guard.

So am I the only one who hopes the big ass GoD in the teaser is a crocodile/alligator man? It would still fit with Egyptian mythology and crocs are badass

>>151788669
Imagine if that's the U10 GoD.

>>151788573
take it back you fag
i am a real human bean

update to the yamcha spinoff when?

>>151788768
i will take nothing back

i'm a shameless fag and i love dudes. turankusu is a mary sue but he's a sexy piece of ass. fuck you bitch

>>151788818
someday trunklover the joke will be on you and I'll refuse just like u

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>>151788669
I hope some of the Gods of Destruction have Dragon Quest like designs.

Are we supposed to think of Beerus as a total bro now or something? He killed like billions of innocents out of boredom.

>>151789225
>implying we haven't all killed a few billion people before

>>151789225
acquaintance he may like our food but at the baseball game and tournament it is clear we are not that meaningful to him

>>151789263

Semen don't count

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Reminder that promotional art for Super is absolute shit compared to the 90s.

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>>151789593

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Reminder that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu

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>>151789593
>>151789611
Shit taste

>>151789929
>dubfag
>baiting
>retarded
>all three
Which is it anon?

>>151790167
Educate yourself, it's stated in both the manga and the original Japanese anime.

>>151790346
>literally lying on the internet

>>151790389
>Being this retarded
I just showed you a picture from the episode where it's explained. How stupid are you? Kaioshin says he was weakened from absorbing Kais.

>>151789929
"no"

>>151790423
which is why he became fat buu, besides- absorbing people doesent actually decrease his power, it just makes him more docile and less evil

>>151790504
Nice argument idiot

>>151790512
They flat out said his power is lowered through adsorptions, not to mention Kid Buu having better abilities than Super Buu. Instant regen, feels no pain, extremely fast, the characters say it multiple times as well.
He makes a fool out of Goku because he suppresses his ki. He was even able to briefly fight off the Spirit Bomb

>>151789225
It's better than having him as an enemy

>>151790599
Source?

>>151790599
if absorpion actually lowered his powerlevel then superbuuhan would be weaker than normal super buu, maye kais are an exception to this due to being made of magic orwhatever- but he definitely getsstronger (powerwise) through regular absorbtion

>>151790599
Literally nothing you're saying has any basis in fact and you're just trying to start a shitstorm. It was stated that Kid Buu was the most dangerous form of Buu because he's fucking insane and unpredictable, not because his raw power is greater.

>>151790697
>if absorpion actually lowered his powerlevel then superbuuhan would be weaker than normal super buu, maye kais are an exception to this due to being made of magic orwhatever- but he definitely getsstronger (powerwise) through regular absorbtion
No you idiot, they specifically say the Kais weakened him.

>>151790650
Read the manga pleb. Or watch the anime.

>>151790705
I have stated facts, have reguarly posted interviews and pics in previous topics, and all you retards have done is say "no that's wrong, my headcanon is right'

It's pathetic. You never post a shred of evidence proving me wrong, you just essentially cover your ears and say No

>>151790872
all i remember being said is that the fat kai's supreme goodness made buu docile and altered his nature

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>2017
>people still believe shitty kid buu have any chance against super Buu

>>151790872
>No you idiot, they specifically say the Kais weakened him.
They specifically say the Grand Kaioshin weakened him and changed his personality.

Nothing is said about the South Kaioshin weakening or changing him.

What was gokus weird clap/nose boop in his fight with Hit? It seemed odd and I feel like I missed what it was supposed to do

great saiyaman was enjoyable when it was gohan in highschool trying to hide his secret from his friends while a crazy girl he didn't know how to handle was chasing him down trying to expose him.

I have no desire seeing fully adult gohan dress up for 1-2 episodes pretending he still has a passion for anything other than being a total disappointment. Maybe feelings would change if we got Saiyaman and Saiyaman 2 tag team stuff, but no way in hell will they ever let Videl be anything other than background mom girl.

>>151787896
>I wanna see the Great Saiyaman filler episodes
Just watch the early Buu Saga, the episode before the tournament starts I think. They LITERALLY stole the movie plot from there.

>>151790872
But that's not true.

They specifically said he only absorbed people who were more powerful, gaining him strength.
Leading to that Buff-Midget Kid Buu that we had before he absorbed Grand Kaioshin

After absorbing Grand Kaioshin, he didn't become weaker. He became a bitch. He started dancing around, being silly. Made it easier for Bibidi to control though so fuck if he cared he was still Majin Buu & still had more than enough power to wreak whatever havoc he wanted to.

DB Multiverse is fucking incredible.

>>151791057
>After absorbing Grand Kaioshin, he didn't become weaker. He became a bitch.
That would make sense, but Fat Buu was objectively weaker than super and kid buu, comparing Goku's performance against them.

And Kid Buu was fucking around, too.

>>151791110
It's dumb fanfiction but it's better than Super.
Am I the only one that found the possessed Bra abuse pages to be kind of hot?

>>151789225
Yeah and Goku is best friends with a child who killed pentallions of lives and dead souls just because he was in a bad mood
And then Zamasu says the mortals are the evil ones

I don't like gohan filler it's always boring should have been something like training buu with satan or go to beerus and strike fear

>>151791172
I did. I blow my load to Bra occasionally but Ginyu made her sexier.

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>>151791290
>SSJ3 will always be a jobber form in the canon

SSG > SSB

>>151791343
Yeah, literally nobody ever won in SS3 state

>>151791343
>>151791457
Goku literally has never won in SSB or SSG either.

>>151791433
SSJ/2>SSJG/B

>>151791481
>Goku literally has never won in SSB
golden frieza.

>>151791481
Frieza

SSG looked cool as fuck with the fiery ki and everything
SSB looks like some deviantart shit

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Cute

>>151791433
Only if SSG didn't turn him into some lanky faggot. It looks weird because of that.

>>151791508
Blue > Yellow

>>151791290
>Black
>SS2

no

>retards still believe Kid Buu>Super Buu
>deluded enough to believe there's ever been any evidence of this
>other retards continue to reply to them thus giving them the validation they crave

Sad thread.

>>151791686
It makes you wonder though, why didn't Goku just teleport back to Earth, get Goten, Trunks and Gohan and then teleport back to the Kaioshin planet so that they would take care of Kid Buu instead of doing the spirit bomb?

>>151791172
>>151791230
the true colors of multiverse fags

>>151791686
Kid Buu being above Super Buu and Mystic Gohan not being the strongest unfused character in DBZ are the two biggest memes by uneducated pedros

>>151791738
Because Goten and Trunks are fucking useless without fusion, and Gotenks is horribly unreliable because he's a childish retard. Gohan has enough power to kill Buu but he has no fighting savvy anymore, it took Goku and Vegeta for him to kill Cell. He'd fuck up and job to Kid Buu because muh pacifism. He could have effortlessly annihilated Super Buu but all he did was punch and kick then get everyone absorbed.

>>151791761
>Mystic Gohan not being the strongest unfused character in DBZ
Do people seriously think someone is above him? Like who? Gotenks or SS3 Goku?

>>151791761
>Mystic Gohan
so is this name, i have always hated this fucking shitty name perpetuated by faggots who ironically enough look down on other members of the fandom for saying dumb shit with no substance

So I was thinking of something, what if SSJ Rage is the result of a hybrid trying to turn SSB but not being able to because of not being full-blooded?
Maybe there's like some bullshit about how only full-blooded Saiyans can reach god level
If I'm correct then I'm expecting Gohan too to get this transformation

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>yfw enough of Zamasu's influenced leaked into the main timelime to take form again under everyone's nose
>yfw he possesses Gohan somehow
>Gohan's potential plus Zamasu's killer instinct plus Zamasu's God Ki
>yfw Gohan Black is the final boss
> yfw Goku is forced to kill him for him

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>tfw hi

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reminder hi is eternal

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why is hi is magical?

>>151792029
Hey my post is there. Yay

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I love Hianon.
Love!

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>yfw hi

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So when Zeno kills everyone it's ok but when Zamasu does it everyone flips their shit
Fucking hypocrites

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Would GT have been better if the main characters were fusions like this?

>>151792129
Because that's not Zamasu's job

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hi is ever lasting

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hi

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>his hi isn't big enough

>>151790006
>shit anatomy
>washed out colors
>long horse-faces

Yeah, no

>>151792301
>Shit anatomy
>horse faces
What are you even talking about you retard?

>>151792301
>washed out colors
You mean like these >>151789593 >>151789611 faggot?

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Who would win?

>>151792069
You could fuck her and Goku wouldn't mind

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>>151791514
>>151791525
You what?

>>151791686
Super Buu's ki is explicitly said to have grown when he turned into kid buu.
Therefore, Kid buu is stronger than Super Buu.

IT's pretty set in stone, really.

>>151792562
>source my ass

>>151791761
>Kid Buu being above Super Buu and Mystic Gohan
Above Super Buu, yes. Above Buutenks, Buuhan or Mystic Gohan, obviously not.

>>151791940
>Gohanfags still live

>>151792646
They are always alive, especially with the incoming episode

>>151792174
>Nurenberg Defense

Lol.

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>>151792682
But the next episode is literally a rehash of an episode from the Buu saga, same fucking plot.

>>151792562
>Super Buu's ki is explicitly said to have grown when he turned into kid buu.

That's stated when he turned into Buff Buu, which was Buu after absorbing just the South Kaioshin.

They don't mention directly how his power changes when he goes from Buff Buu to Kid Buu, although both Goku and Vegeta seem eased and it'd be really out of character if they were going just by his physical appearance and completely ignoring his ki.

>>151792723
I bet they would do anything for his character to have screen time, or whatever

So you know how there's a timeline where Cell never showed up?
I wonder how things turned out there around the Buu saga, would be a cool what-if story

>>151791290
Gohan made SSJ2, fighting Cell tho.

Also, how do you even distinguish Vegeta's SSJ1 and SSJ2 forms? It's not like his hair can get any stiffer.

>>151792646
>>151792723
It's so shocking that people like a character and post about him in the threads dedicated to the series he comes from.
You're onto something crazy, here.

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>>151791290
>SS and SS2 Goku Back
>Goku
>Back

>>151792737
>That's stated when he turned into Buff Buu
So? No one said his ki shrank.

Goku and vegeta underestimated him because he was small. They made a lot of errors in judgement, and that was one of them. Proof perfect being that when Kid Buu tried to destroy the earth, neither of them could do shit and had to escape, his blast's power was far beyond what either of them were capable of deflecting. And I shouldn't need to remind you, goku could turn SS3 instantly at that point, so that's no excuse.

>>151792840
>Kid Buu could generate a blast powerful enough to blow up the planet that Vegeta and Goku couldn't deflect
>welp there's proof u guise Super Buu clearly couldn't do that I win the argument hehe

>>151792840
>And I shouldn't need to remind you, goku could turn SS3 instantly at that point, so that's no excuse.

You need to pay more attention, Goku could have defeated Kid Buu with SSJ3 but he didn't have enough ki or stamina at the time.
He outright states it.

>>151792894
No, it's proof vegeta and goku made a huge mistake based on his looks, idiot.

We don't have much to compare super Buu and Kid Buu, but the fact remains Super Buu's ki is explicitly said to grow when he lost the fat absorbed buu and turns into Kid Buu.

>>151792946
Yes, his ki is explicitly stated to grow when he momentarily turns into the buff Buu, before it goes back down when he turns into Kid Buu. You fucking retard.

>>151792942
Goku states a lot of shit, and is wrong a lot of times. He also thought he could beat fat buu, but he simply wouldn't have had the remaining time to do it. And he thought he could beat kid buu, but kid buu was fucking around with him the whole fight.

Whether he could beat Kid Buu or not was a guess on his part. However, both he and vegeta sensed Kid Buu's ki growing from the super Buu form. That's not up to debate.

>>151792991
>before it goes back down
Prove it, dipshit. Otherwise take this to fanfiction.net.

No matter how you see it, the fact remains that 1) it happens and 2) It's the only direct power comparison we have between kid buu and super buu.

>>151793050
>prove it
Go read the manga you stupid fucking Z dubfag.

>>151791290
>forgetting USSJ

reminder that Uub has Kid Buu hidden within him

>>151793404
nice headcanon

>>151791673
He had sparks though

>>151793427
Daizenshuu 7 fag

>>151793450
>he thinks Daizenshuu is canon

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>>151791290
You forgot Ultra SS Trunks (Zamasu arc), and Mystic Gohan (Beerus, and maybe Universe Survival arc)

>>151793468
not an argument

>>151793495
>replying to a b8

>>151793495
Daizenshuu isn't canon. There's nothing to argue you fucking moron.

>>151793511
>it's just a joke, bro

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Your Multiversal tournament MVP

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This is canon

>>151793521
no proofs in sights

argument is null AND void

Why is it still called Dragon Ball if they ignore the existence of the Dragon Balls?

>>151793579
>making up imaginary arguments so you can say you've won
You're funny anon.

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>>151791673
Regardless if it made sense of not, Black DID become SS2

>>151793627
still no proofs of non-canonicity insight

argument is still null AND void

>>151793663
(You)

>>151793606
Umm... Because the don't?
They were partially the reason for Champa arc
And if not them, we wouldn't have Black.

>>151793555
YAMCHA STAGGERED BEERUS
HE'S UNIVERSE LEVEL HE'S UNIVERSE LEVEL HE'S UNIVERSE LEVEL
SUPER HUMAN YAMCHA WOLF-GOD SUPER HUMAN WHITE TURBO ACCELERATED ANGER HOPE FRIENDSHIP WHEN

>>151793699
thx

>>151793784
np fag

>>151787994
what source is this from?

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>>151791481
Vegeta beat Cabba as SSB

Also SSB beat Golden Freeza. Group effort...but in the end, SSB Goku's kamehameha killed him.

Still more than SS3

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a rewrite and remake of DBGT wouldn't be so bad tbqh

>>151793825
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Super_Exciting_Guide

>>151792469
the left one

>>151793933
>rewrite and remake
>DBGT

If it's re-written entirely, then it's not GT. It's something else.

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>>151793433
So?

>>151793644
>source: a pic of Black with SS hair and sparks
kek

>>151794054
>So?

So it's fucking SS2

> implying posting pics of SS1 Black is an argument

>>151794054
How the hell is >>151793644
NOT SS2?

This isn't debatable. You're literally ignoring what makes SS2 not SS1

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>>151794117

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>>151794092
>implying posting pics of SS1 Black pretending looks like a SS2 is an argument

>>151794136
How the hell is a SS2? Had sparks, yeah, like SS1 Vegetto or Nappa, but his hair isn't SS2 Goku's hair, is clearly SS1.

>>151794136
He has sparks but still has SSJ1 hair.
It's inconsistent and we only have Toriyama's notes to go by saying it's just regular ssj1.

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>>151794117

>>151794221
>is clearly SS1
> one bang is semi-down

Holy shit I hate SS2

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>>151794117
>>151794170

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>>151794221
Black's hair, while that doesn't perfectly match that left pic, still looks more "SS2" than "SS1"

Also it has sparks, which is a defining trait for SS2

>>151794394
Key word is "clearly"

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> In b4

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>>151794361

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>>151794590

>>151794590
> desparate enough to compare SS2 Vegeta and (Enraged, "that's my Bulma!!") SS2 Vegeta

>>151794654
>no argument
I accept your concession.

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>>151794590
>>151794647

> implying a rage-boost can be permanent

>>151794732
> I accept your concession

Oh look it's this faggot again

>>151794738
>implying a rage-boost can be permanent
You mean like most Saiyan transformations?

>>151794577
>not saying hi to me
it's like the first major rule everybody has to follow with absolute authority.

>>151794732
When Beerus slapped Bulma, Vegeta got a rage-boost. He had no rage boost during his fight with Black.

>>151794827
hi is there, look carefully

>>151794809
>transformations

Good thing Enraged SS2 Vegeta isn't a transformation. It's a temporary boost causedby rage.

Example: Kid Gohan after Freeza horn-stabs Krillin

>>151794867
Finally you said hi to me anon was that so hard?

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>this was actually supposed to be Raging Blast 3, hence it's japanese name
fucking why?

>>151794971
>that hidden hi
based

>>151794900
>Enraged SS2 Vegeta
it's really just called (Quake of Fury) Vegeta

>>151794971
I feel like it had actual tenkaichi combat at one point

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>>151795009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBidl5ZxW6E
hi

>>151795127
>all those hi's
also based

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>>151794463
>Goku hair shape is spiky
>Black hair shape looks like a flame

>Goku have three (sometimes less, when he's in motion) front tufts
>Black have more, usually four or five (sometimes less, when he's in motion, but still more than three when remains static)

>Goku's tufts are thin
>Black's tufts are thick

>Goku's hair is clearly different than his SS1 hair
>Black's hair "casually" fits with Goku's SS1 hair


>"still looks more SS2 than "SS1"
Sorry mate, you're wrong.


>Also it has sparks, which is a defining trait for SS2
pic related
>>151795185
Shut up

>>151794971
only thing good about that game were the visuals and the effects

>>151795127
> going through many hoops to explain how the SS2-looking hair is actually SS1

> implying SS1 Goku's hair will look exactly the same in every panel

So what's the rule of thumb now? If it has sparks it MIGHT be SS2; but if it doesn't make sense it's SS1?

>>151794900
>Good thing Enraged SS2 Vegeta isn't a transformation
But it is, simlar to SS Grade 2, 3 and Future Trunks' powered version of SS2.

>temporary
Nothing in the manga says it was temporary.

>Example: Kid Gohan after Freeza horn-stabs Krillin
That wasn't temporary either.

I want to cum inside Chichi.

>>151794971
>Burst Limit 2 never ever

>>151795308
>>151795308
>But it is, simlar to SS Grade 2, 3 and Future Trunks' powered version of SS2.
and Super Saiyan Rage

>>151795308
Kid Gohan losing his shit against the various forms of Frieza and actually inflicting damage was absolutely temporary, you retard.

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You guys are delusional if you actually believe Black DIDN'T go SS2

Holy shit this fanbase is retarded

>>151795515
>absolutely temporary
No it wasn't.

So since Piccolo stated after Goku was a dumbass and used up almost all of his revival energy with Super Saiyan 3 that Dende could have healed his revival energy back to normal, why the fuck didn't they just plan to have Dende constantly heal him so that he never had to return to Other World? At least until the Buu crisis was averted.

>>151795284
>-"This character have about X or Y tufts, sometimes less (when he's in motion) but still more than three when remains static"
>+"Are you implying hair will look exactly the same in every panel!"
wat


>So what's the rule of thumb now?
spiky aura which include sparks + spiky hair = SS2 (as Goku)
SS1 hair + temporal sparks = not SS2 (as Black)

>>151795583
>source my ass
Prove it wasn't temporary. I'll wait patiently, even though you can't.

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I am going to watch the entirety of dragon ball and dragon ball z and then read the manga of both series over

>>151795308
>Enraged SS2 = SS Grade 2, 3 and Future Trunks' powered version of SS2

They are not even related.

> That wasn't temporary either.

Yes it fucking was. Gohan lost his boost immediately after that

>>151795536
You dude are delusional if you actually believe Black did go SS2.

Holy shit you are retarded, your own pic discredit you

>>151795699
You have to be a fucking moron to not realize that comparison is solid proof that Black was SS2. You're just trying to piss people off.

>>151795616
>spiky aura which include sparks + spiky hair = SS2 (as Goku)

So this pic meets your criteria then >>151795536

Super Sayian was a dumb idea to begin with. It was only fine as the big finale against Frieza, but the series persisted to continue after that for some reason.

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>>151795586
>didn't they just plan to have Dende constantly heal him

>No. I have to go back to the afterlife to heal this
Read the manga, you fucking retard.

>>151795782
I liked the way they introduced the forced power output forms in the Cell Saga as a way to showcase that just being a Super Saiyan wasn't the end-all be-all as well as the mastered form Goku and Gohan displayed, but after that they just kept adding forms and it got retarded. SS3 is fucking dumb as shit.

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If Black was in fact SS2, and not SS1, then SS2 Vegeta completely wrecking him would make even less sense than it already does.

>>151795627
>Prove it wasn't temporary
You're the one who based his argument on this point, you prove it retard.

>>151795817
I haven't read the manga in years you dumb piece of shit. Stop getting so fucking triggered when someone asks a question because you think you're superior for having every single manga page memorized like the pathetic neet that you are.

Fuck off and don't post again.

>>151795891
There we go, I was waiting for you to admit that you couldn't actually prove your argument by resorting to that tired "Y-you prove it!" whimper.

I accept your concession. Gohan's power boost was temporary.

>>151795891
>you prove it retard.
Not that anon

But this post already proved it >>151795678

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>>151793526
ftfy

>>151793490
and SSJ2 Gohan

>>151795771
>temporal sparks
>SS1 hair (see >>151795235)
Yeah, you can see how is not a SS2.

>>151795734
>Black with SS1 hair and sparks is a solid proof that Black was SS2
Whatever you say

>>151795678
>They are not even related.
They are related, powered up versions of the initial transformations.

>Yes it fucking was
No it wasn't.

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>>151795967
Pretty sure Gohan hasnt gone SS2 in the entirety of DBS

Only Mystic (BoG), and SS1 (SSG Ritual, RoF)

>>151795996
When are you retards going to learn that screaming "Well you can't DISPROVE it" doesn't constitute proof? This is basic fucking shit.

>>151795939
So you can't prove it? Thought so.

>>151796069
Anon, I already accepted your concession. You don't need to keep shoving it down my throat. I get that you feel like a fucking moron, and rightfully so, but it's okay now.

>>151795991
I don't know how you convinced yourself that Black's hair there looks SS1

You are literally grasping at straws

>>151796045
>proof
Ah something you seem to be lacking.

>>151796116
>You lack proof because you can't disprove something there is no proof of
Do you understand how this actually works, anon? Are you legitimately autistic?

>>151795357
>Butoden got a new game before Tenkaichi, Legacy of Goku, and Burst Limit
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>151795996
>They are related, powered up versions of the initial transformations.
Did Kid Gohan "transform" against Raditz or Freeza?

No he didn't. It was a temporary boost.

> no it wasn't

Great argument there. I guess you're ignoring that Freeza proceeded to beat Kid Gohan afterwards

>>151796141
See >>151795891
>You're the one who based his argument on this point, you prove it retard.

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Is he gonna job?

>>151796184
You are the one who has been claiming this entire time that Gohan's power boost was permanent you absolute fucking moron. Either you're actually stupid as shit or you're baiting.

>>151796206
He is gonna handjob

>>151795308
>>151795474
>But it is, similar to SS Grade 2, 3 and Future Trunks' powered version of SS2.
nigger it isn't

it's called Quake of Fury/Furious Mutation, aka a fucking temporary rage power up.

meanwhile, SS Rage is a whole entirely new transformation Cuncks thought up.

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>>151796167
>I guess you're ignoring that Freeza proceeded to beat Kid Gohan afterwards
Because Freeza powered up, you fucking retard.

>>151795235
What would SS Nappa look like?

>>151796292
There's just no getting through to you. You're so incredibly fucking stupid that you're convinced everyone else is wrong. Your arguments thus far have been:

>Y-you prove it!
>No it wasn't temporary
>Fucking retard

I mean Jesus Christ, kid. There's stupid and then there's cataclysmically universally fucking retarded. And then there's you.

>>151796357
>no argument
I accept your concession. GG retard.

>>151796292
He didn't transform immediately in the anime. Can't say for the manga.

Also you are still implying 4 year old Gohan stayed above Raditz-level, and Kid Gohan's power-level in Namek stayed well above 1 million.

Do you know how stupid that sounds?

>>151796206
he's going to get a fine assfucking if he does

>>151796243
Who?

>>151796398
You of all people calling out someone for not having an argument is priceless. Take your last (You).

>>151796206
I sure fucking hope not.
>Bring back a character who hasn't been seen in a millenia
>make him job
it's like killing an important character offscreen and only mentioning it once

>>151796412
(You)

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>>151796404
>He didn't transform immediately in the anime. Can't say for the manga.
Fuck off faggot, read the manga.

>>151796108
I don't know how you convinced yourself that Black's hair there looks SS2.

You are literally reposting the same pic and claiming they looks the same ignoring proper arguments (>>151794221 >>151795235). I already posted my arguments defending that he looks like a SS1, where are yours besides repeat the opposite?

>>151796407
>17 being fucked by his sister's robo dick
I can only be so erect

>>151796321
Beard
It actually is

>>151796455
Dont ignore the rest of the post, which you cannot argue

>>151796457
>where are yours besides repeat the opposite?

Sparks and hair

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I ship them.

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>>151796573
Narusegawa Naru x Son Goku

>>151796573
Nobody gives a fuck. kys

>>151796573
Beldandy is owned by Ruggarell, you fag

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>>151787896
>there are faggots that find the filler good
>there are faggots that think Great Saiyaman is funny

>>151795235
Nappa sparked because he was executing an attack. That wasn't a transformation.

You can't use that unrelated logic to say SS2 Black is just SS1 Black with sparks

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>>151796752
> "I hate fun"

>>151796556
>Sparks are a proof
>his hair looks SS2

Both points already debunked in >>151795235. Temporal sparks doesn't mean SS2 and his hair wasn't SS2 Goku's hair.

>"but was!"
Argue it dude, debunk my points. Shape, tufts, its thickness, etc.

>>151796752
>he doesn't like Arale
>he doesn't like the baseball episode
>he doesn't enjoy laughing at Saiyaman

Confirmed for only watching dubbed Z.

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>>151796752
>there are faggots that find the filler good
This, DBS filler is fucking trash, can't understand why some people like it. God SoLfags are weird.

>>151796809
Difference between "fun" and "absolute shit" - which would define both your taste and those filler episodes.

>>151796814
>Shape, tufts, its thickness, etc.
Stuff like this changes very slightly all the time

I dont think they are autistic enough to make sure SS2 has the correct amount of hair strands each time

>>151796888
>>151796752
>patting your own post on the back because everybody else thinks you're a shit taste retard
priceless

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>>151796888
Vegeta's family vacation was fucking awesome

So was the Pan filler. So was the baseball episode.

I take it that you hated the DBZ episode where Goku and Piccolo went to go get driver licenses?

>>151796888
I like my SoL just fine, but I don't watch Dragon Ball for this. I watch Dragon Ball for the adventure, not to see episodes of them taking care of a baby or whatever.

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>>151795862
> how to ruin an awesome villain 101

>>151797080
Goddamn it, I thought the asshurt Blackfags were done whining.

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>Bulma, Chichi, Videl
>Ranfan, 18, Lunch
>Vados, Gine, and Towa.

Fuck one vaginally (position and creampie of choice), anally (position of choice), orally (cum shot of choice: tits, mouth, face, ect.), and receive a tit fuck from the other. You can only choose 4 out the 9. Go.

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>>151797007
Pic related

>>151797013
>Vegeta being a boring stick in the mud durning a
family outing
>lol so random xd baby
How is this entertaining again?

>I take it that you hated the DBZ episode where Goku and Piccolo went to go get driver licenses?
No, because that was actually fun.

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>>151797111
> it's all about losing!

Black can lose, as long as it makes sense.

Not by making SS2 Vegeta far stronger than SS3 Goku

>>151792723
Oh shit, I forgot Red and Black became directors. Will they direct this upcoming episode too?

>>151797163
I noticed you didn't complain about the baseball episode.

At least you have 'some' taste

>>151797170
>Toeifag attacking the manga for power levels "not making sense"
Top kek

>>151793555
That's just cause Beerus wasn't ready for it.

>>151797205
Fuck off. You can't talk about taste when you like the garbage that is the filler episodes.

>>151797205
Nah that was trash too.

>>151797170
>Not by making SS2 Vegeta far stronger than SS3 Goku

So by pretending BoG never happened? Okay, Blackfag. Just contain yourselves until your shitty Shadow the Saiyan gets SS Rose next chapter and edges out like he did in the anime. Then you can flood the threads with "BEST BOY IS BACK LE TOYOTARO SAVED BLACK HE WAS ALWAYS SHIT IN THE ANIME"

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>>151797227
> Toeifag

Can I not complain about Black's portrayal in the manga without being labeled a "toeifag"?

I've spoken with other mangafags, and I know I'm not alone

>>151797013
>So was the Pan filler.

No. Every time Pan appears on the screen is wasted time.
I'd prefer to watch an entire episode of Champa doing some diet.
I'd prefer to watch an entire episode of Hit going to the bathroom but realizing there is no toilet paper.
I'd prefer to watch an entire episode of No.17 doing whatever he does.
I'd prefer to watch an entire episode of Vegeta actually learning how to cook for Lord Beerus.
I'd prefer to watch an entire episode with nothing but the daily life of Gowasu as a Youtuber.
I'd prefer to watch literally anything else, even an entire episode with nothing but the characters telling bad jokes.

>>151797274
>waaahhh I want more le epical my power is maximum battles like in DBZ DB is shit Funi DBZ is the best thing ever waaaahhh

>>151797320
I'm a mangafag and it's pretty fucking obvious that Toyo fucked up with the power scaling here. But at least it's not as consistent as Toei.

>>151797080
>how to ruin an awesome villain 101
>losing a fight
I guess he wasn't much of an "awesome" villain if that's all it takes to ruin him.

>>151794117
It makes sense to me, I mean Goku did absorb god ki or some shit into his base form so tanking a SSB hit would't be so far fetched. The issue is that most people forget that multipliers are only good based on what your base form is.

>>151797241
clearly Yamcha was too fast for him

>>151797385
>shit shit shit fuck fuck damage control DAMAGE CONTROL

>>151797289
>So by pretending BoG never happened?

So to make sense of this, I have to pretend a temporary boost of anger was permanent?

This was already discussed anyway:
>>151794900
>>151795308
>>151795515
>>151796167
>>151796404

>>151797340
>I'll put words into his mouth t-that will show h-him!!!!!
Saitama OK.jpeg

>>151797439
Cry more, Z babby.

>>151797361
I dont even care for Toei, but i did care for Black and I was excited to see how he'll be after everyone was hyping him up

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>>151796765
>"He was executing an offensive technique, not an transformation technique, doesn't counts!"
OK whatever

>>151797473
Retard, you realize there are more chapters left?

>>151797328
Sounds like pretty good episodes desu

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>>151797373
> it' all about losing

Read: >>151797170

Also where is his personality?

>>151797328
> I'd prefer to watch an entire episode with nothing but the daily life of Gowasu as a Youtuber.
Hello there everybody.
This is GowasU10
And today we are going to play this game made by Kaioshin of Time
Also known as Chronoa
Also, shoutout to North Kai of universe 7. You're great man, and you're student's the best. Big fan of his work.

>>151797385
Except then he gets rekted by a regular Super Saiyan while in God mode. >>151794170

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>>151796953
>changes very slightly all the time
I already pointed that, anon.
>"This character have about X or Y tufts, sometimes less (when he's in motion) but still more than three when remains static"
You can see how (at least Toyotaro) cares about those details. SS2 Goku have really thin tufts and SS Goku have thick ones, "SS1/SS2" Black too. Just compare
>>151794221
>>151794463
>>151794054 (in this one there's the only panel on which Black's hair actually looks remotely similar to a SS2, one single panel.... and Black STILL having more numerous and thicks front tufts than SS2 Goku)

>>151797501
Well he's underwhelming so far.

Maybe he'll get better after SSR, and explain why he lost to Vegeta when he shouldn't have.

>>151797475
Not that post but is "Super Vegetto" confirmed to be SS1 or SS2

>>151797518
>Where's his personality?
It's literally still there. You idiots just hold him losing and becoming upset against him, while you completely forget that he was only laughing and smug when he was getting beat in the anime because he was well aware that he had his broken zenkai boost that Toei gave him. Fuck off.

>>151797080
Toyotaro is a master when it comes to that.
He nerfed Hit(not a villain, but he counts as an antagonist).
He ruined Goku Black's awesome characterization from the anime.
If the thing about the manga being ahead/leading the anime from now on is true then we are basically fucked, say goodbye to the Goku Black arc because it will be the last good Super arc.
Except the next arc to be even more of a Goku&Vegeta show under Toyotaro's guidance.
Probably all the fighters from other universes will be nothing but fodder to Goku&Vegeta, except some few people who will have an extremely limited gimmick(probably even weaker than Manga!Hit's Time Leap) that will allow them to hold their own for a short time but ultimately be unable to compete against the Super Saiyan Blue form.
Don't be fooled by the picture with the other Z fighters, Toyotaro will make sure they will do literally nothing worthwhile to let Goku&Vegeta get all the glory.

>>151797518
>it' all about losing
Well you did reply to a pic of him losing and didn't elaborate.

>Read
See >>151797227

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>>151797620
>It's literally still there
No it's not. He's not cocky, he's not smug, he's not flamboyant.

>>151797636
t. Toei Animation

>>151797692
>He's not cocky, he's not smug
>not cocky
>not smug
OK I'm going to assume you never read the manga, at all, since you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Read the manga again, but until then, fuck off, Blackfag.

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>Yamcha spin off is only 3 chapter long

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>>151797636
>Except the next arc to be even more of a Goku&Vegeta show under Toyotaro's guidance.

Sure Toei shill, remind me what any of the characters besides Goku and Vegeta have achieved in filler? All I remember is base Vegeta one shotting SS3 Gotenks.

>>151797328
>the characters telling bad jokes.
The cast goes to hang out at king kais planet

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>>151797636
> "People complained that RoF had a lack of tension. How do we remedy this Toyotaro-san?"
> "Just nerf the antagonist"
> "What?"
> "Also, that 'Black' guy looks promising. Let's make him behave like a generic villain"
> "But sir-"
> "FUCK. THEM. UP."

>>151787956
They lost to yamcha

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>>151797727
Don't bother, he's just butthurt Black lost a fight.

>>151797639
>and didn't elaborate.
Yes i did:

>Black can lose, as long as it makes sense.

>Not by making SS2 Vegeta far stronger than SS3 Goku

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>>151797518
>"Where's his masochism and edgy personality?
Happily doesn't exist, he have a respectable one.

>>151797547
>SSR Black vs SS2 Trunks
>SSB Goku vs Zamasu
T-thanks Toei feels good b-be animefag...

>>151797913
>Yes i did:

>>151797080
>how to ruin an awesome villain 101
>full stop

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>>151797428
>
>>151797547
ya got me there

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>tfw I recognize most of these Blackfags since they've posted the same picture and same complaints in other threads
>Only 2 people

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>>151797727
I read everything. Nothing in there matches the anime's beautiful Black

At least so far...but the anime did it quicker.

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>>151797692 (You)

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>>151797954
>SSR Black vs SS2 Trunks
>SSB Goku vs Zamasu

It was the other way around for the most part

>>151798002
>the anime's beautiful Black
Jesus Christ, fuck off. Black is a shit character in general. You're just buttmad that the "beautiful Black" is losing a fight.

I'm beginning to question who's become worse: Blackfags or Brolyfags at this point in time?

>OST called "Son Goku is the strongest after all"
>Yet people still call Gohan the strongest fighter
Gohan may have had the power but he's always been a garbage fighter

>>151797855
At least it makes fucking sense. Why the fuck did he have that broken Zenkai ability in the first place? It makes Vegeta's arguments about Saiyan cells completely null as Black uses them way fucking better than any Saiyan ever

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>>151798002
>At least so far...but the anime did it quicker.
Hence why you keep posting gifs and images from much later in the arc then the manga is currently?

>>151797227
>mangafags constantly attack the anime because powerlevels don't make sense
>mangafag says the powerlevels make sense in the manga
>gets called on his bullshit
>lmao you can't complain about powerlevels in the manga because they also don't make sense in the anime hurr durr

It is literally okay when Toyotaro does it, right?
Go fuck yourself, hypocrite.

>>151798150
It is okay when Toyotaro does it once, it's bound to happen in some writing. But as consistent as Toei? Fuck off.

>>151798093
Gohan wasn't wearing his glasses which is why he fucked up by not being catch an earring. If he was wearing his glasses he could have easily killed buu

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>>151798019

>>151797385
>The issue is that most people forget that multipliers are only good based on what your base form is.

Since when was Super Saiyan Blue/God officially stated to be a multiplier, though? For all we know it could just be another case of added strength like Mystic Gohan.

>>151798070
>You're just buttmad that the "beautiful Black" is losing a fight.

Read >>151797170

>>151798208
Toyotaro is such a faggot how could he mess up Vegeta's widow's peak. Toriyama spent hours drawing the perfect widow's peak everytime.