Bleach Thread

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>>151679342
Happy birthday and happy year of the cock

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>some device box from Urahara-san that flashes into white smoke, Urahara greets them which Rukia & Renji try to reply to and are surprised by being congratulated for their marriage. It is a recorded voice mail. They also receive a gift from him with the device. (He’s being shady about some technology gift they must keep a secret? Don’t quote me on this part.)
Until proven otherwise, my belief is that Urahara's gift for Rukia and Renji is some kind of sex toy.

-Rukia and Renji invited Gotei members to have some sake (like a tea party) where they announced they were getting married like this,

-Rukia’s face gets redder and redder from anxiety when Renji, finally, stands up straight nervously with her next to him. She deeply thanks everyone for coming and Renji spills it with a “We- we are getting married!” declaration and there’s shocked silence for a moment until Rangiku, Hanataro, Kiyone, and others congratulate them, people aren’t surprised by them getting together (I think this part is translated? But I’ll put it here because I found it really cute and humorous how it was written.)

-Rukia goes to Byakuya’s place to inform she’s going to do the marriage enrollment, Chiyo appears again (Rukia’s servant & friend from Makoto-sensei’s last novel The Death Save The Strawberry) to help her

-Iba takes care of Komamura’s dog, Goro. I haven’t seen any confirmation on the wolf cubs’ relation to Komamura (I sort of skimmed here a bit sorry)

-Renji and Rukia run into Iba & the doggos on their way and they get friendly here

-Rukia and Renji are packing and looks to be getting a mansion/house to live in together in the first central ward area due to the upcoming establishment of marriage (this is before the ceremony)

-Everyone’s fave forgotten shinigami Ryuunosuke Yuki & others appear here for a short bit to help with moving and duties (he’s confirmed alive at least? they don’t do anything important)

-Ryuusuke & other members give them some device box from Urahara-san that flashes into white smoke, Urahara greets them which Rukia & Renji try to reply to and are surprised by being congratulated for their marriage. It is a recorded voice mail. They also receive a gift from him with the device. (He’s being shady about some technology gift they must keep a secret? Don’t quote me on this part.)

>>151679991
-Renji & Rukia have a meal at Byakuya’s place in silence which makes Renji nervous and they look to get a kimono because Byakuya asked about his dress earlier with Rukia. Later all three go to get their marriage papers officialized and announced as an official couple, the two get emotionally happy over this on finally being married.

The wedding ceremony section:
-It starts with Orihime at a park by the train station where she and Renji&Rukia meet up

-Rukia asks how the shop is prospering since Orihime works as a regular employee at a bakery’s cake store called “ABCookies” ever since after high school graduation three summers ago

-Because Orihime relied on distant relative’s living expenses, but since they would only give assistance until high school graduation, she had to look for work.

-Just from the air that Renji and Rukia seem more intimate than before, Orihime wonders happily with a big smile - “Oh, you two started dating, isn’t it?!” Orihime’s intuition is sharp although dull many times (?)

-Rukia is taken aback by the suddenness that she’s laughing nervously and stumbling for words. “Inoue, Renji and I… We entered today… ah……. ah oh yeah um… entering… We entered to get married.” sort of thing. Orihime is really happy to hear this that she’s begun to cry tearfully with a shining smile

-Wondering if Rukia has told Ichigo yet, Rukia tells her she wanted to tell her female best friend first of the news before heading over to see Ichigo

-Riruka works at Yukio’s enterprise company, works as a designer in the apparel department

-Jackie Tristan too works at the same company but she flies all over the world to developing countries as charity, so they rarely see each other in person

>>151680075
-Orihime calls Riruka and talks about Rukia getting married and the ceremony is approaching in a couple of weeks, she wanted to make a wedding dress for her at first. Riruka yells that it’s not possible for a beginner to do in two weeks in which Orihime thinks over again with the suggestion of a wedding veil instead. They agree and order the materials.

-Ichigo is a university student coming home from afternoon class (doesn’t mention what field/career)

-Tatsuki does karate

-All the human friends are gathered at Kurosaki Clinic including Tatsuki, Keigo, and Mizuiro and the two Kurosaki sisters

-The later four’s careers aren’t mentioned

-They’re all eating cakes Orihime brought from ABCookies and working on the veil progressively together and it takes them hours until completion

-Orihime liked flowers since a long time ago. They are putting texture of strawberry flower petals on the hem of the veil. In the language of flowers, it means happy family which she says would be perfect as a motif on the veil for the loving couple which everyone sewed some petals on then put the gold embroidery through.(Ichika isn’t really mentioned in the novel but it’s a speculation on connecting the dots where her name comes from with this info drop)

-Uryu is a medical student in medical school. He’s mended his relationship with his father but does not answer any more questions about it.

-Chad’s sparring partner is named Daniel (安堂ダニエル) a heavyweight Japanese champion, he leaves after getting the call

-Yuzu says Orihime acts as a mother so she is very happy when she’s around. Karin agrees when asked and says she’s reminded of her mother, Masaki, and looks at the large poster in the room when they talk more about it fondly.

-Orihime wears a pink dress made of fluffy chiffon material at the wedding ceremony (putting this here for the colorists/editors)

-After the ceremony is done with Renji and Rukia being wed, there’s a feast.

>>151680168
-The girls including Orihime and Rangiku all excitedly take pictures of Rukia and with Rukia by putting their faces together behind the camera
(A lot are camera happy haha)

-Kyoraku borrows Rukia for a moment and they leave to have some privacy because Kyoraku has a story to tell her and gives a gift wrapped in cloth to her

-Rukia is really surprised it’s the 13th squad’s haori and gets overwhelmed by emotions

-Ukitake had told Kyoraku he wants to retire one day so he originally tailored a haori to give to Kaien but then he lost his life

-Kyoraku did not give it to Rukia until today because he was waiting for her heart to grow (to strengthen her heart for leadership). Also hands her an envelope with a heavy banknote inside, Rukia tries to not accept but Kyoraku tells her it is from Ukitake and pleads for her to please accept
Rukia swears an oath to herself that it won’t be too far in the future she will be captain with the haori, she just needs more time

-Four hours after the reception, the humans are now leaving to head home and they give gift bags.

-There is a message from Isshin given to Rukia. Isshin tells he is the uncle to Kaien. At the time of his nephew’s death, he was the tenth captain so it was a shock. Of course, he had heard the circumstances from Ukitake, and thought Rukia needed a helping hand/comfort most, so he visited the 13th barracks many times but when he saw Rukia’s painful profile/look, he could not call out anything.

-Renji tells Rukia to remain and he’ll escort the humans to the senkaimon so that they can head home because he is a part of the 6th squad.

-What follows after are the last few pages with Renji + Ichigo and Ichigo + Orihime which are translated

-Hisagi’s 2017 novel will reveal the mystery of the world, the Fullbringers and Arrancar, the Soul King, and the great aristocrat houses

Some people remarked about Rukia not recognizing Isshin as Captain Shiba, but I don't find it strange at all as "Captain Shiba" and "Kurosaki Isshin" looks very different. Also, as an unseated officer from a different division, Rukia may not have many opportunities to see the 10th division captain, so she may not even remember what he looks like. Keep in mind that even today cameras are rare in SS and there's no TV.

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>shipping faggotry

>>151682544
>tumblr
The only place we find info is there anon-from the sketches to translations. If you have any other sources then by all means share them.

>>151682544
It's almost 2017, fuck off. We aren't in 2010 anymore.

>>151679342
>>151679523
>Urahara hasn't fugged the cat yet
I haven't kept up, has Yoruichi's cat transformation thing been explained yet?

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>>151682544
>>shipping faggotry
It's a novel focusing on the Renruki wedding and the end features a bit of Ichihime. What did you expect?

The second novel is the one that will focus on other things.

>>151682885
>has Yoruichi's cat transformation thing been explained yet?
Didn't he drug her for the transformation to happen?

>>151682885
>Yoruichi's cat transformation
Nope. Not even a dismissive "it's a Shihouin secret technique" explanation has been given.

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>>151682885
Yoruichi is now fugging the zombie vice captain.

2066th class sure is successful.

>>151683908
She is not.

>>151683908
She just wanted to see the hole in his chest.

hee

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>>151680243
I hope Harribel got out of imprisonment alive.

So yoruichi confirmed alive, nice

>>151680243
>Hisagi’s 2017 novel
What? There's another novel coming out in 2017? I thought Bleach was done and over with!

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>>151687230
U late anon. It's out this upcoming Spring.

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>>151680075
>female best friend
Get's me every damn time. Orihime attracts all the lonely girls. Lonely girls attract their own kind.

-After his moms death, Ichigo changed and that left Tatsuki upset.

-Riruka had that sad past and she's a tsuns so she's hard to get along with.

-Rukia is distant and closed her heart for a long time.

>>151688379
Why are there so many tsunderes in Bleach? Makes me appreciate open characters like Rangiku more.

>>151690504
Yoruichi is also open. A bit too open at times, but thats what makes her fun.

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>>151687230
One more novel this Spring. Said to be Hisagi-centered but knowing Narita's style it will not focus on him only. Will touch on the Squad Zero, Soul King, Fullbringer, Arrancar, and 4 great noble families.

>>151694076
I expect the issue with Yhwach's corpse will be expanded upon in this novel.

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>>151694076
Live action movie in 2018, now filming. Kubo will draw a special chapter as promo, that has Fishbone-D in it. Guy in the pic, Sota Fukushi, has been cast as Ichigo. Girl in the pic is the rumored Rukia, Hana Sugisaki.

>>151694076
Will the Hisagi novel take place after the manga's finale?

>>151694438
No info on that yet. People speculate it'll be post 686 because of what Hitsugaya said (the last 10 years was peaceful).

If it's post finale I hope Ichika and maybe Kazui will be featured.

If Bleach was still popular, the novels would probably get animated like the Naruto Hiden series.

Or maybe not, Naruto's global popularity was and is at a whole different level.

Does ichigo still have powers?

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>>151695060
Yep.

It's 2017. Did IchiRuki happen yet?

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>>151695413
It's dead, Jim.

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>>151695095
This is the man that goes down on Orihime every night and she goes down on him. God fucking bless.

>>151695095
Look at this cover! Would someone really not expect IchiRuki from it?! This is false advertising!

>>151696218
Most people that bought the volume already read the last chapter anon.

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>>151696468
Gaaaaaaaaaay.

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>>151696218
According to Kubo, a romantic back to back should be like this, anon.

>>151695095
Ichigo looks way better in color. Makes him look healthier than in the usual monochrome.

>>151696866
It was so obvious. Why were people so blind?

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>>151700844
Because there was also stuff like this.

Basically there are scenes/depictions that can be used as a basis to believe "this is where Kubo is going" and hardcore shippers refuse to see the other side's "moments" while overemphasizing the importance of their side's. Over time this selectiveness is amplified by echo chambers and further polarized by conflicts with members of the opposing faction.

All ship wars are like that.

When the rivalry is between an obvious one and an obviously-not one, like Natsu/Lucy vs Natsu/Lisanna, it doesn't turn into a ship war because it really was obvious, so the "losing" side quietly accepts their "defeat".

>>151682885
Of course he did.

And no, it has not been.

>>151686820
Goodness I hope so.

>>151701396
>Natsu/Lucy vs Natsu/Lisanna
>Super obviously paired together in every omake and increasingly so in main content vs Childhood Friend

I mean, I like Childhood Friend setups as much as anyone, but calling it a "Rivalry" is a stretch...

>>151701639
That was his point. He used it as an example of a ship war that was so lopsided that the losing side begrudgingly accepts their loss.

>>151701780
I think his point was more that it never really even turned into a war.

And I was saying it wouldn't even qualify for a "Rivalry". Or a conflict of any kind.

>>151700844
>>151701396
Why are you people still denying the fact that Kubo still baited readers with IchiRuki?

>>151702143
What does baiting with IchiRuki mean? Elaborate your hypothesis.

>>151701396
Is this really how you want to start off 2017? By making the same mistakes you made in 2016?

You don't have to do this anymore. Don't be an autist. Free yourself. Forge the shipping and move on.

>>151696468
These 2 seem more likely to want to fuck each other than Ichigo and Rukia.

>>151702543
What mistake did I do in 2016? I fully repaid my student loan and my ship won.

>>151695030
There's always the nostalgia factor. Bleach could get another anime down the line.

>>151702898
If it can keep its fanbase like Kenshin, perhaps. But Kenshin is also more popular globally. Over here, common people know of Naruto, Pokemon and Samurai X, but not One Piece, Bleach, or Gundam.

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>>151702375
THIS.

>>151703966
No. Please put it in words. Do you mean to say that Kubo at one point entertained IR as a possibility? Do you think he deliberately designed it as a bait? You can't just say he "baited" and think others can understand where you're coming from. I want to know if you came up with it having read the manga closely from the beginning, or just reactionary as a result from "losing".

>>151695030
>the novels would probably get animated like the Naruto Hiden series.
The Naruto Hiden novels are getting animated?

Huh. That'll be cool. Will be neat to see shit like Naruto and Hinata's wedding (And the associated stories of the various gifts), Kakashi's last mission as a Jounin, Sakura opening her hospital, Shikamaru and Temari hooking up, Sai and Ino hooking up, etc.

>>151704242
They're adapting the Shikamaru, Konoha (Naruto's wedding) and Sasuke ones. Sasuke's currently airing and Shikamaru's starting next week.

The funny thing is, because of the timeline switch (Sasuke Shinden should be the last but it was put first), Hinata is now pregnant before marriage.

>>151704668
Lewd.

Slight shame just cause I find the idea of her being impregnated on the hot springs honeymoon Shikamaru gets them lewder still.

>>151690504
>Makes me appreciate open characters like Rangiku more.
Funny thing is she's not exactly THAT open, like part of her character is that she'll hide her true feelings. It's one of those "the most depressed is the one smile the biggest" things

>>151704242
Naruhina a shit.

>>151701396
Ichigo is literally saying he can't pick just one over any other memory and that shot of Rukia is of her disappearing when he lost his powers. It's not a shipping moment it's him recalling his final memory of his powers.

>>151704156
Different person here. I honestly wasn't surprised at how that ended, because I got it out of my system when Kubo started obviously pushing more for an Orihime setup around the Hueco Mundo arc. The reason why people kept shipping that I think was because Kubo was so BAD at selling Ichigo/Orihime while Ichigo and Rukia were always written with a nice dynamic.

So despite Kubo's clear intent the delivery was never there, leaving people to cling to their ship right to the end.

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>>151703966
Nice cherry picking. Even cropped Renji out to turn it into an Ichiruki moment when the actually scene is far from it.

>>151705511
>Ichigo and Rukia were always written with a nice dynamic
Honestly this was only in the anime though, once the Soul Society arc happened Ichigo and Rukia would stop being constantly by each other's side for the rest of the story.

>>151705650
>"I don't need to be protected!"
>Winds up having to be protected by Byakuya
>Unlocks Bankai
>Needs to be told to shape up by Byakuya before she uses it
Silver-lining to IchiHime, Ichigo will always be #1 in Orihime's eyes. He won't have to play second fiddle to Onii-sama.

Downside, sucks to be Sora.
Oh and Renji.

>>151705511
Anon you replied to here, I pretty much have the same perspective as yours. Since SS I have the feeling that RR will be canon, and Orihime's confession further strengthened that hunch.

However, I'm still not clear whether (and if he does, since when) Kubo was aware of the IchiRuki following that sprouted despite his intention, and whether it influenced the way he wrote Bleach.

I was hoping that IR anon could help share their thought process.

>>151705755
That's true, but the few moments they got together were meaningful and fun.

>>151705755
>Ichigo and Rukia would stop being constantly by each other's side for the rest of the story

That's putting it mildly. After the party splits in Hueco Mundo, there's maybe a couple dozen chapters that have Ichigo and Rukia actually in the same place interacting with each other.

Those chapters weren't all filled with great interaction either. Like the captains including Byakuya showing up where Ichigo and Yami are fighting(while Rukia watches) to send Ichigo back to fight Aizen. Rukia just vanishes off panel as Ichigo talks with the captains and departs. No reaction from her for him leaving, or reactions to her brother showing up to save Ichigo's ass even when Ichigo's just standing around waiting for the gate back to be ready. The anime threw in some interaction between Ichigo and Rukia then, but as far as the manga's concerned she might as well be Hanataro in that scene she's so unimportant.

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>>151706696
I'd disagree Rukia as a character plateaued after the SS arc where it was repetitively getting over Kaien's death and receiving acknowledgment from Onee-sama. Her interactions with Renji were the few times we actual saw fun Rukia again.

>>151706665
>I'm still not clear whether Kubo was aware of the IchiRuki following that sprouted despite his intention
I legitimately do not think it would be possible to be unaware of it.

>and whether it influenced the way he wrote Bleach.
Kubo, if you take his statements and the one sob story at face value, seems the type of writer who will stick to his plan no matter what outside influences may say. This is perhaps why he didn't do much more to strengthen the IchiHime-bond as, to his perspective, it was fine as-is.

While I can respect such perseverance, personally I feel that a story, especially one as long and drawn out as Bleach, SHOULD be influenced by a view outside the writer, as readers can often offer a more varied and introspective viewpoint on character growth, than a writer with a particular view in mind, who may not realize how certain things come across.

Even putting aside the idea of shipping and so forth though, Bleach's ending really should have been altered because of one crucial fact. Kubo's method of dealing with writer's block; introducing new characters. Yet because of his apparent immutability with regards to the end-game, much of this bloated cast received little to no closure in the end, as it was not written with any of them in mind. Even long-runners to the show got shafted, ostensibly to fit in little nods to a few later characters.

>>151707074
>seems the type of writer who will stick to his plan no matter what outside influences may say
The problem with this is that we do have examples where he has buckled to outside influences to change his story i.e. shortening the first arc and thus changing Shinji from a transfer student with unique powers to being a former captain who became a vizard. That's why I take the 'sob story' as him defending his choice to go to the ending he had always planned but that on the way there were clear bumps in the road where things did move away from making that plan more coherent.

>>151707189
Fair point.

>>151683908
>soifong mad that her goddess would rather fuck a doubly dead guy than her

>>151707074
When I mentioned "influenced" I don't mean the ending, though. It's about that anon's claim of "baiting". Was it really "baits" (things he deliberately put in to lure readers) or does he think he's doing just fine in presenting the unique friendship as he intended, with no external economic motive? Especially around the middle parts, before he seemingly lost control of the story, adding new character after new character and overt power after overt power.

>>151707227
I mean it's worth noting Kubo's had a pretty bad relationship with Jump's editing staff since Zombie Powder and even the likes of Toriyama at the height of Dragon Ball's popularity wasn't immune from executive interference.

I'm not saying Kubo's some genius being pushed down by 'the man' but if the executives and the creatives can't work well together then the final product won't be very good.

>>151707404
I did mean to answer that, but I can see how it might have gotten lost in the whole rant.

Optimistically, yes, I do think he believed he was presenting things well and that most people got what he was going for, and that no he did not alter any perspective to purposefully bait those who did not.

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>>151696866

THE DOG WHO FUCKED THE STAR

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>>151707526
>he believed he was presenting things well and that most people got what he was going for, and that no he did not alter any perspective to purposefully bait those who did not.
It paints Kubo as this somewhat socially disconnected artist, but that portrait goes with his cosplaying of Mayuri (a guy that does what he wants without a care for others) and this twitter rant.

>>151702543
>Forget the shipping and move on

How are you supposed to forget about iy when it is spammed ad nauseam all over the board.

Leaving /a/ forever? Now we're talking.

>>151705650
>I didn't come here so I could be protected by you

Kubo even spells it out loud.

>>151707748
>that tweet

People who don't pay for it don't get to complain. And despite all the harsh words with threw at Kubo for his writing, we still stuck with him for 15 years.

No wonder Mayuri was his best character.

>>151707748
>eat only rain and dust
This never fails to entertain me. Kubo is so good at ranting.

>>151679342
>orihimefanclub.tumblr.com
>/a/ is this shit now
Yikes.

>>151682942
>a bit of Ichihime
Literally one frame of him looking at her. It's Renruki focused because they know IH-centric wouldn't have sold. And we all know how much Goy Jump love their yen.

>>151702582
>Interracial sex
>Gay sex
Ew.

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Chapter 685 is better knowing how flustered the whole being married thing made Rukia.

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>>151708346
How does it feel knowing that not only Kubo but also Matsubara get their ideas from /a/? Maybe Narita too?

Some more impressions from the poppy-moon blog. Anyone can translate? It seems that there's an appearance of baby Nemu, Kiyone is good at healing and that's why Yama-jii assigned her to serve under Ukitake, Rikichi and Ryuunosuke are brothers, and Shino has the same surname as Ikkaku?

・ルキアさんのベールの刺繍は現世組からの贈り物
・雪の結晶ではなく苺の花花言葉は"幸福な家庭""尊重と愛情"
・織姫の好きな花
・狛村隊長は狼として存命
・うるい&シュウマの人狼兄弟が可愛い
・七番隊の副官は伊江村さん
・赤ちゃんネムの高速ハイハイがかわいい
・清音は回道が得意だから、山爺が浮竹隊長の看病のために十三番隊に配属した
・理吉と竜ノ介は兄弟
・一角と志乃も名字が同じ

>>151708171
For real?

>>151709096
>Rikichi and Ryuunosuke are brothers
That was in 13Blades. The other info is somewhat new.
I'm not surprized by Kiyone, her sister is in 4th division after all.

>>151709664
Healing is a skill Kubo can bestow at will. Like when Kira healed Matsumoto because he was in 4th before transferring to 3rd.

>>151709751
Isshin and Rukia are also quite capable in this area, you learn it in academy. I till believe this mention of Kira being in 4th was unnecessary and doesn't really fit well. Heck , Hinamori wanted to heal Matsumoto herself before getting taken out by Ayon.

This mention of transfers between divisions remind me, I like how novel states tthat sometimes it's C46 that chooses VCs if captain doesn't care. It explains how Renji became Byakuya's lieutenant.

>>151709991
Could be Aizen's influence.

The sad thing about these novels is that for Narita's we likely won't get anyone as dedicated as this shipgirl from tumblr and the best we can hope for is some detailed summary (like SAFWY).

>>151709991
Byakuya was still in his "must not go against orders" phase, too. But the choice is peculiar because according to databooks the 6th's character was strict adherence to rules, and Renji's not only a tattooed hoodlum from Rukongai but also was in Zaraki's division. Why was he picked?

>>151710763
Shipper Aizen strikes again.

The couples that formed were literally Deus Ex machina. Kubo had them in his mind but made no move to develop the story or characters to accommodate it, making it all happen off-screen during a TEN YEAR TIME SKIP.

TEN

YEAR

TIMESKIP.

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>>151710094
>>151710953

>>151679991
>He’s being shady about some technology gift they must keep a secret? Don’t quote me on this part.
You can't stop me!

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>>151711257
>Maybe I...
>MAYBE I WAS THE ONE BEHIND THIS

>>151680243
>Isshin was still a captain when Kaien died
>Rukia didn't recognize him at Ichigo's home
What. A. Fucking. Hack.

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>>151711407
1. Gotei 13 is a large organization and each Division occupies a different area in Seireitei, whose size is comparable to a city.
2. Unseated officers don't have many opportunities to see other division's commanders.

and most importantly

3. "Captain Shiba" and "Kurosaki Isshin" look significantly different.

>>151711407
>Unseated officers don't have many opportunities to see other division's commanders.
And yet there wasn't a single captain Rukia didn't know in Soul Society arc.

>>151710441
Some faggot youtuber is paying for them to be translated.

>>151711645
Meant to reply to this >>151711593

>>151711197
Kubo has always shipped Ichigo and Orihime, even in the pilot chapter. It's okay, anon. It really is.

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>>151711593
But Rukia was close to the upper management of her Division, even before being promoted herself. It's therefore not out of the realm of possibility that she was familiar with others too.

Furthermore, you'd think Ichigo's nigh-identical appearance to Kaien might have set off a red flag in her head. Like seeing just Ichigo on his own she'd think coincidence, seeing just Isshin on his own she wouldn't recognize him, but put two and two together and...

>>151711407
Obviously, when Bleach started there's no such things as captains in Kubo's concept, even though he decided from the start that Isshin is secretly a shinigami.

Let's see you writing a weekly serialization for 15 years.

>>151711729
It's strange that Ichigo's physical resemblance to Kaien is almost never addressed by people in-universe, not even Kaien's siblings. Perhaps they're not supposed to be identical and only as similar as cousins sometimes are?

>>151711645
Proof? She obviously knows Ukitake, Byakuya and Gin. She also once talked with Yama before the execution. I don't remember anything else during the SS arc. Besides you need to remember that Renji once asked Matsumoto who her captain is. And he was a seated officer already for some time.

>>151711808
It's pretty obvious they realized it,but like most Bleach charaters they kept those thoughts away from us. I mean, when Isshin said to Kon that he never once called him Ichigo while he was in his body how would we know that when we haven't seen Kon interact with Ichigo's family on screen while he's away?

>>151711407
The thing with Rukia blaming herself is a little like Naruto's childhood.

People's poor treatment of Naruto in his childhood significantly shaped him in the earlier parts, but much later in the story, it was revealed that Naruto is the son of the village savior and former hokage. That makes the Third Hokage and other adults who knew who he is seem like assholes for letting him grow up alone and discriminated.

With Rukia, her self-blame about killing Kaien is the main component in her emotional arc, but later in the story it is revealed that not only did Rukia have no choice but to kill Kaien, her brother also actually cares about her, and Kaien's family knew the truth from Ukitake, and yet no one said anything to her for decades.

>>151711981
Ganju also wasn't told, which caused him to harbor hatred towards the shinigami for decades.

In the end it's simply part of the parcel of writing a long manga series. You can't go back and revise the early parts because it's already out there.

>>151711700
That's part of my point.

>Kubo had them in his mind but made no move to develop the story or characters to accommodate it

It's not okay. It is NOT okay that such an incompetent writer gets so much fame.

>>151705455
>It's not a shipping moment it's him recalling his final memory of his powers.
Shhhhh, anon. They don't understand logic. Shipping Ichiruki proves that.

>>151711895
Exactly. Not everything needs to be spelled out. Somethings are too obvious.

>>151712572
If Isshin never disappeared and had a son who grew up to look a lot like his cousin Kaien, then that would be something obvious that warrants no special reaction whatsoever.

But here's an unusually strong human boy who is making a lot of ruckus in Soul Society and he looks a lot like a deceased high-ranked officer, member a fallen great noble house. THAT warrants a reaction and perhaps an investigation.

>>151712195
It's not a big deal really. Geez why do people put so much importance to the entertainment industry, especially one whose primary market is not your country?

>>151712195
Everyone on the story wanted them to be together. That was Kubo "developing it" without really addressing it. It sucks for shippers? Sure, but remember Bleach was not about romance. Get over it.

>>151712692
By who? Central 46? They're dead. The captains? They don't care and tend to mind their own business, Vices? They are beholden to the rules even if they were curious they couldn't do anything but speculate. Kukaku? Probably knew it the first time she laid eyes on Ichigo and confirmed it off screen since she knows Ichigo is Isshin's son.

>Ichigo lost his powers again
Fuck everything

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>>151711257
Aizen taicho best Aizen

>>151713899
No wait, I'm reading the prequel novel. Oh right, no problems then.

>>151708288
All the blogs posted have info on the novel. That blog has all the sketches. If you have the novel yourself and can post them all then please do.

>>151708309
And there's only one sketch of Renruki in a Renruki novel. What's your point?

>>151712748
I grew up with it and waited every week for the new chapter/episode, and meanwhile talked shit with you guys.

Don't you belittle my love.

>>151712789
>Everyone on the story
And that's shit writing. Ichigo comes off as a marionette controlled by Kubo and his peers in the story.

I'll be buying the Hisagi novel so I'll post the sketches if theres a thread. I was the one that posted the Yoruichi/Kira one.

Verduistering from BA reads every novel so I'm sure they'll translate it or at least give a detailed, long summary.

>>151714401
No. It was his way of saying "we all know you like each other, go out already." If you were blinded by the blatant IR fanservice on the anime, well that's your problem. The manga was pretty clear on what Ichigo and Rukia relationship was. Friends, that's it.

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>>151714401
Ichigo comes off as no such thing and you know it. Just fucking accept that Ichigo and Orihime were Kubo's intended pairing and people ignored all the obvious signs. He's been planning on it since he wrote the Bleach pilot and nothing that happened in the 15+ years from then dissuaded him.

Stop shitting up Bleach post by constantly finding reasons to complain about it. No one else gives a fuck.

>>151712692
They know it's Isshin's son. He is a Shiba. Do they really need to spell out that they think Ichigo looks like Kaien? It's obvious. It's purposeful.

Of all the stupid things Kubo has done in Bleach, I don't think this is one of them.

>>151695030
Naruto getting novels animated or not has nothing to do with the anime's popularity. Naruto never sold worth half a damn.

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So what the fuck was he?

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>>151716825
Soul Reaper, Hollow with Quincy potential.

No fullbring, nor was he human.

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>>151711257
>>151711321
You forget that this is during the time where Aizen was going to be the 'good guy' in the story who got killed.

Bad Guy Aizen didn't become a thing until halfway through Soul Society arc. The guy who was going to murder him was clearly Juha Bach as he and the Quincies were being set up as the big bad in the first half of Soul Society arc.

>>151716825
Yhwach

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>>151716905
>nor was he human.
wrong

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>>151717047
He was human in the chapters where he had no powers. But the moment his Soul Reaper and Hollow powers woke up, he stopped being human.

>>151717018
Damn human Komamura was fucking hot. What a waste.

>>151717073
What are you talking about, that was his magnum opus. This was the end of Komamura's character right there.

>>151717072
Which means he was human when he made Ichigo, ergo Ichigo is human.

>>151716905
No I'm not talking about Ichigo, I mean the Mugetsu form. What was it supposed to represent?
We know that his Zanpakuto drew power from his Quincy blood at that point (with Yhwach claiming himself to be the spirit instead of the Hollow), so why did he look like that?
Was that his Quincy final form and is that why he looks like Yhwach? If that's so, where did his actual Shinigami/Hollow powers go if that was a ZANPAKUTO final form?

>>151717011
That's what I thought, but a Ichigo/Yhwach hybrid is more likely. Like, maybe that's the look Yhwach would have if he was a Shinigami, with the teeth representing the restrained Hollow contamination. I seriously don't know.

Kubo wasted so much lore potential.

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>>151717153
But because he still has his powers in the end, Ichigo is a Soul Reaper, Hollow with Quincy potential.

He didn't lose his powers in the end like he did with Aizen.

>>151717226
No, it was just Getsuga Tensho wrapped all around him. It was because Getsuga was black in his Bankai form that it looks like that.

>>151717226
Was butterfly Aizen a Vollständig?

>>151716825
Half human and half Quincy with shinigami and hollow powers. There was one point he as human/quincy with only fullbring powers as well.

Ichigo only sees himself as a human and substitute shinigami.

>>151717153
>>151717282
>Ichigo is a Soul Reaper, Hollow with Quincy potential
The point is that Isshin become a shinigami/human to balance out Masaki and the hollow inside making Ichigo a hybrid of all four races, that's the point.

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>>151717374
Not really. Isshin lost his humanity the moment Inner Hollow woke up, remember?

>>151717437
That's still after his children were born. Ichigo, Karin, and the one without any powers:Yuzu did not suddenly stop being human with him.

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>>151717514
Karin and Yuzu are still human. They don't have any powers.

Ichigo is Soul Reaper, Hollow and Quincy potential. He lost his humanity the moment both his Soul Reaper and Hollow powers woke up.

>>151717611
Then why does Ichigo still age at a human's rate? That's the one thing humans have over the other three. Also he's still referred to as human by other characters.

>>151717666
He didn't age anywhere as much as a human. Plus Soul Reapers live in Soul Society where time goes slower over there than the human world.

>>151717723
>He didn't age anywhere as much as a human
What?

>>151717768
Yeah, if you look, Ichigo still looks pretty young for his age. He would look older if he was human.

>>151717282
Ok, so that was him fused with Getsuga Tensho.
Which was his Zanpakuto attack, and the Zanpakuto at that point did not drew power from both Yhwach and the Hollow, but just from Yhwach (otherwise the whole "real Zanpakuto spirit" thing that happened later would have no logic), as we know from the fact that he has chains around his arm after the Dangai training.

But Getsuga Tensho was also an attack that his father's Zanpakuto had, so it's safe to assume that it works on Ichigo's inherited Shinigami powers.
But isn't the Hollow, which is what his mother passed on him giving birth after the attack (making him also a Fullbringer), the reason why he's a Shinigami? She passed him Quincy and Hollow blood with birth. The latter is the source of his Shinigami powers, being White his spirit.

So what's the origin of Getsuga Tensho and what was the point of his father being a Shinigami?

>>151717847
No, the inner hollow is the true zangetsu. It's his attack (Black Getsuga).

Old Man Manifestation was just using the hollow to hide his dirty little secret from Ichigo.

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>>151717820
No he does age at a standard rate. Time moves the same for both worlds that's why ten years passes for both at the end and why Toshiro is still a child while Ichigo is noticeably an adult.

>>151717954
Then why does Final Getsuga Tensho make him look like Yhwach and not like White? That's what's bugging me.

>>151717723
>He didn't age anywhere as much as a human.
Do you really read this manga or are you just shitposting?

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>>151717611

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I wonder why he's not a fan of this form after all that time wishing he'd be taller. I bet it's because Rangiku calls him daddy like this.

>>151718858
He's not ready to handle the responsibility of being so sexy yet.

I miss Ulquiorra. ;_;

>>151719627
To bad. He's dead and ain't coming back. All hail King Grimmjow!

>>151719894
Grimmjow is a dick sucking faggot.

>>151719627
What was his appeal?

How did rukia and renji have kids if they're just dead souls?

>>151720176
Better question is: How can the dead NOT have a kid?

Kazui fucks Orhime when?
Ichigo or Renji fucks Ichika when?
Yuzu molesting and rape Kazui when?

>>151720103
I liked his character design and his questioning nature.

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>>151720264

>>151720264
>>151720531
Kurosaki and Abarai orgy.

Why the fuck isn't there are decent Rukia figure? Imagine if Alter made Bankai Rukia or Toshiro or Byakuya.

Ichiruki OTP.

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>>151721142

as a person who started reading bleach and is around the fullbring arc. I think it started to suck at soul society. I liked the beginning when it was just Ichigo and Rukia. Then Ichigo went into soul society and beat the strongest people that govern the passage of souls by training for like 10 days. I stomached it but eh, the story should not have went down like that. After that it felt like it was just a bunch of fights with people I did not really care much about, if the chapter did not have ichigo or rukia I pretty much skimmed it, so yeah I skimmed alot of the chapters.

>>151721464
Its like I'm actually on Deathberry...

>>151718044
The simplest way to put it is this: Getsuga Tenshou =! Final Getsuga Tenshou. The latter uses the entirety of Ichigo's power, and thats why he looks more like Yhwach when he uses it. The former only uses his hollow-gami power.

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>>151721464
C A N O N

>>151722161
You mean ToraDora?

>>151721711
So you actually liked the stuff after SS? You didn't think "This is getting kinda stupid"?

>>151722716
I was 13 at the time so not really. Besides, at a certain point you have to know what to expect from a battle shounen, plus it wasn't until after Soul Society that we actually get to see most of the captains and lieutenants fight, 100% of which are more interesting than Ichigo. I think as a whole that Soul Society is the better arc but it still has its flaws, most people seem to put it on a pedestal for some reason.

>>151709615
>>151708171
I'm more horrified at Roald Dahl, an /elementary/ school author, being someone's favorite in high school.

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>>151717723
>time goes slower over there than the human world
Nope. Time goes the same, aging is inconsistent.

Ichika grew in 6 years the same as a human 6-year old would, but that's not the only time it happens. In the 10 years that Renji and Rukia lived together in Rukongai, their appearance changed from kids (7-8 years?) to teenagers (15-17?).

Meanwhile, Unohana looks the same the whole time Zaraki grew from a boy into a man that looks older than she is.

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>>151719561
It's actually because he's not sexy enough and it's disappointing. If he was hot enough to get past Momo's 5th Captain fetish, he'd have his Bankai on as much as possible.

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>>151720176
Why are people just asking this now and not long ago when it was established? Or when Sentarou who said he's also from Rukongai is revealed to have a father?

>>151725807
This, also pretty sure Reiryoku affects aging as well.

>>151725896
He's sexy enough, Momo's just too far gone. He can help Rangiku deal with losing that other white haired guy though.

>>151726167
I just don't think there is no single hypothesis about aging that is consistently applied. For everything you can think of, there'll be at least one character that goes against it. In the end, it's just Kubo deciding what he wants a character to look like.

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>>151718858
I just want him to interact with Byakuya more.

(MS' translation is wrong as usual here though)

>>151725896
>Riving virgins whose only lusted for one men
>Suddenly a shota turns into a man

The doujins write themselves too bad bleach's story is too dead for new ones. Especially for these 3, Momo and Rangiku must be pent up something fierce

>>151726845
Yeah they had some good banter going on.

>>151726455
>For everything you can think of, there'll be at least one character that goes against it.

How so? If Reiryoku accumulates with age then its only natural that individuals with higher Reiryoku will age more slowly, I don't know of what counterexamples you're implying.

>>151727156
>individuals with higher Reiryoku will age more slowly
Zaraki is stronger than Unohana, yet overtakes her aging

>>151727575
Strength =! Reiryoku

>>151716989
>Bad Guy Aizen didn't become a thing until halfway through Soul Society arc. The guy who was going to murder him was clearly Juha Bach as he and the Quincies were being set up as the big bad in the first half of Soul Society arc.

I wonder how Kubo would have written the Vandenreich as an early enemy faction.

>>151721464
The people at Studio Pierrot would love you.

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>>151717959
The one who looks like he hasn't aged is Mizuiro.

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>>151720103
Having a really cool fight.

>>151733388
This is literally Brave Souls in a month when both get their 6 star form

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Last year's gree card

>Rukia: “…Renji. I don’t forget you did not make any comments about my kimono when you saw it.”

What a bait.

>>151733700
2 years ago, even. I forgot it's 2017.

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>>151733700
Rukia's a dweeb and I love her.

>>151733700
Renruki is cute but Ichihime ruins everything.

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>>151735022
Ichihime ruins nothing.

>Koma will never give Bambi the Knot
it hurts

We Do Not Always Get the Knot

>>151735623
Even Kazui's hollow is adorable.

Looking at his parents, is he going to grow up to be the hottest and most powerful person in the Bleach universe ever?

>>151706910
This is my favorite panel in at least 4 years

>>151735623
>Kazui having an inner Hollow.

Is that even possible?

>>151736877
Ichigo developed his due to it being passed on by his mother.

Makes sense if Kazui would thus inherit Hollow traits, an Inner Representation included, from Ichigo.

>>151706910
Rukia holds on to Renji because:
a) She's lazy
b) Renji's faster, it's more efficient that way
c) She has nothing in her mind but sex with Renji

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>>151736795
Kazui being the most powerful is a doubtful issue. I think his parents and their friends will take care of the bigger threats and he won't be all that interested in fighting, but who knows.

The hottest, though. At minimum, he's going to have girls and women staring at him wherever he goes after he grows up.

so with all these novels and whatever else, has there been any info on aizen? what happened after ywach died? how/why did aizen go back to mugen, did he go willingly? i notice he has no eye patches and can speak now, did they give him leniency or a reduced sentence or something?
any info at all?

>>151736921
No,
Kubo established that hollow power can transfer in utero, not via sperm.

>2017.
>Still pretending to like IchiHime and RenRuki.

>>151738018
There doesn't seem to be any info on that in this novel based on comments from the people who has read it. Maybe there will be something in Hisagi novel.

>>151738129
>2017
>Still denying that some people genuinely like IchiHime and RenRuki.

>>151738119
With Fullbringers, sure.

But who's to say if the same rules apply to a Mutant Super Hollow?

Remember anon. If all else fails, Aizen.

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>>151738129
Happy new year, anon. I hope this year is a good one for you too.

>>151738253
Is Orihime a fullbringer? I forgot whether it's ever really addressed in the manga.

>>151738441
No and her powers were never explained.

To my eternal annoyances as a Himefag.

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>>151738129
If believing that helps deal with the pain, then I support you.

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It's the year of the Rooster.

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>>151738901
I can't decide which family is better.

>>151738672
Her and Chad being fullbringers would've been perfectly okay explanation for why they were awakened by Ichigo's leaking power, but others close to Ichigo like Tatsuki, Keigo and Mizuiro didn't.

>>151738672
Maybe the second novel will shed some light on them, though it's already covering a lot of other questions.

Did kubo find the dead kid yet?

Was it ever explained why the Vizards and Urahara shop people chose to stay in Karakura after their exile?

>>151741389
Hiyori didn't want to go back and some stayed back with her. Urahara probably didn't want to go back either.

>>151741721
No no, I mean way before Ichigo was even conceived. After they left SS. Well the Vizards may not have lived there, but when Isshin was stranded, Urahara was already living there. Of all the places they can live in, why Karakura?

>>151741970
Karakura is currently this special rich in spirit whatever ground. That's why it was needed to create an ouken. And that's also why it has so many spiritually aware people.

>>151741170
Sounds just like the beginning of Bleach.

>>151741170
What if the dead kid letter was something Shueisha made up in order to emotionally manipulate a writer-blocked Kubo into working again?