Why is the first season of Yu Yu Hakusho so much different than

>>151245395
What started as a paranormal detective series ended up becoming a battle series, because that was what was popular at the time.

>>151245738
Who made the decision to change it?

>>151245911
Presumably the editors. The manga actually spends a lot of time on Yusuke going around as a ghost helping random people. The anime minimizes that, but also cuts some of his early post-resurrection stuff in order to get to the battles quicker.

>>151246003
So what, the show completely turned around just because the editors wanted it to?

How many Shonen Jump series went from gag series to by-the-numbers battle tournament shit?

On the top of my head:

>YYH
>Medaka Box
>Reborn

>>151246088
Was Shaman King originally a tournament manga?

>>151246088
Dragonball itself. The reason it became more and more action focused was because the Budokai arcs were more popular than the adventure ones. The first dragonball quest almost wasn't popular enough to keep the series around.

>>151246237
Still, at the very least it was half-gag, half-martial arts until King Piccolo. Ki wasn't much of a thing up until that point.

>>151246088
Medaka Box makes fun of everything shounen, that's the reason it has battles. I'd argue the first arc was there to parody this exact change.

Beelzebub kind of has this, but it never drops the gags between the arcs.

>>151246088
Kinnikuman

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yu yu hakusho had such an amazing first episode it's really a shame what it devolved into

>>151246034
Why do you think Shonen Jump let Togashi make anything he wants now? They were really abusive with Yu Yu Hakusho. And it's quite normal for editors to change the story to fit the trends.

>>151247017
I love the first 6 episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho, they were perfect.
Thought the whole thing was going to be him trying to get his body back, but then it shifted gears so abruptly and rapidly.

I got up to like ep 30 before I dropped it

>>151247228
the dark tournament arc was pretty good for the most part until the very very end

>>151246034
Most series turn to shit when editors go against the author's future plot points for cashgrab.

>>151246783
I would kill to have a Beelzebub series that's just school-life, gag antics with the occasional trips to demon world.

>>151247228
Try sticking with it until the Dark Tournament. It's standard shonen stuff but it's probably the best tournament arc I've ever seen in a show.

>>151246088
YuYu Hakusho is not a gag manga.

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The first three volumes of the manga are great, it's basically Yusuke solving some ghost shit with Botan and that's about it.
It culminates with Yusuke kissing Keiko, which is the best moment in the series imo.
The rest of YYH is nice, but I wish it sticked to the ultra comfy ghost detective atmosphere it had.

Does anyone else feel like Yu Yu Hakusho and Bleach got the same exact treatment?

>>151247843
Bleach was doomed since the beginning.
Meanwhile Yu Yu Hakusho become asspull: the anime.

>>151247316
I think episode 30 is early Dark Tournament.

>>151245395
The yu yu hakusho 1st ed. aesthetic is best yu yu hakusho. the forlorn hope episode was really the peak of the 'helping random people' because it was combining the soon to take over battle element with that sentimental element.

>>151245395
Because back then it was good.

>>151246034
>show
Manga. And yes, plenty of shounen jump series shift from comedy to battle. You must be incredibly new.

Once dark tournament ended
I couldn't watch it anymore
the episodes after put me to sleep

>>151247772
Damn, that sounds nice.

>>151246034
Yu Gi Oh was pretty much Kaiji with a teenage boy at first
Then it got turned into card games

>>151246034
The whole cell arc in DBZ was birthed due to editorial dissatisfaction

>>151253403
To be fair, only Cell's second and final form were made out of actual editor dissatisfaction. Android 16, 17, 18 and Cell were all made because Torishima, who was Toriyama's editor for Dr. Slump and the first half of Dragon Ball, said that 19 and 20 looked too silly.

>>151247843
Togashi had actual story telling he wanted to do, Kubo's motivation though was just to draw cool shit.

stupid sexy kurama
really like his dub voice also

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>>151247772
Those 3 volumes to me are the real YYH

>>151255336
man teiai's cronies need to step up their hair game

So did Yu Yu copy Diamond is Unbreakable or did it copy Yu Yu?

Which came out first?

>>151245395
ill agree with this op its the same for me with bleach i enjoyed the hell out of the opening arc when they were solving ghost and hollow mysteries then it all went downhill from there.

Although Yu Yu hakusho never reached bleach levels of bs... the random demon yusuke was a bit much though no build up just happened

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Always remember that there is such a thing as giving too much freedom.

>>151256291
They started around the same time but they aren't all that similar outside the setting. Togashi says Araki is one of his absolute favourite mangaka of all time and a source of inspiration to him, but he doesn't really do anything similar to Araki outside their writing styles being kind of similar and Nen and Stands working pretty similarly.

>>151258357
Please, Josuke and Yusuke and Okuyasu and Kuwabara and essentially the same characters and at least for the start they are both supernatural invesgiations in a small japanese town

>>151255336
Kek the Duelist Kingdom arc came about a year later though.

Kaz probably read Kaiji at some point.

>>151245395
I don't feel like looking for it, but Togashi actually mentions in an interview that the editors wanted him to change it to a battle shounen.

With the chinese gender unbalance chinese anime merchandise will make a killing buck.

When will the whole series be properly encoded? Every torrent out for it is shit at the moment.

>>151255336
Is the Yu-gi-oh manga worth reading?

>>151247316
>best tournament arc
Try reaing Sakigake!! Otokojuku

>>151258357
Hatsu is literally a Stand

>>151261612
It's better than the anime, the early artwork is atrocious and a lot of the earlier chapters are self-contained until Mokuba shows up but if you can stick with it it's a decent read. Especially if you already liked the anime.

>>151261613
Not him but I read it and I don't think any of the tournaments in that series even get close to YYH.
And I don't even think that the Dark Tournament is the best tournament. It's just better than every arc in Sakigake.

>>151261777
I assume the manga adaptations of all the sequel series are sub-par?

>>151257754
>that meticulously drawn turkey
Every time.

>>151257754
I want that Turkey

>>151262071
I haven't read any of the sequels. I hear the GX manga is kind of okay though.

>>151246034
Pretty much

>>151253500
And then complained that 17 and 18 were just kids and also not good villains.

>>151269506
Either way, the changes made to the Androids weren't made because Toriyama was forced to, but rather out of the wisdom of someone he trusted. Torishima was actually the reason Arale existed.

>>151269506
17 and 18 were some of the best villains. Not to say that cell wasnt better, but they were up there.

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>>151270258
The one thing that's disappointing to me in the transition from 19 and 20 to the later villains of the arc is loss of the energy absorption gimmick. It seemed like it was made specifically to cut down on the amount of energy blasts that had started to take over in the Freeza arc.