Do you think Yuri on Ice will create a new surge of canon

>>150828081
fucking piece of shit story writers, won't pair up my waifus with anyone but they'll make the homos have husbandos

>>150828081
These dudes are straight actually
I dont know why they are the poster boys of gays

>>150828159
Whoa!

>>150828081
i wouldn't mind

>>150828081
who cares if its 10 dudes banging each other off screen if the anime is good

>>150828081
Hopefully

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>>150828159
>I dont know why they are the poster boys of gays
Because Mika sucked Yuu once.

>>150828081
>canon
How fucking tight are your fujo goggles, op?
>Inb4 but the rings!!! The kiss!!
People spewed the same type of shit about Free! Shut the fuck up

Anyone with decent taste knows this show died the second the western fujoshits got a hold of it

>>150828882
>Anyone with decent taste knows this show died the second the western fujoshits got a hold of it
Yeah, it died, 20k+ at times.

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>>150828130
Of course, a man can love another man in a way a woman will never be able.

>>150828882
>People spewed the same type of shit about Free! Shut the fuck up
I dont recall a kiss and "yes this is an engagement ring we're getting married" in Free! so please refresh my memory

>>150828081
Yuri on Ice didn't invent gays, there have been canon gay/lesbian relationships so no, it won't change shit.

>>150828130
>my waifus
>s
Kill yourself

>>150828724
>once

Read the manga, Yuu is Mika's only food source now, and that's how Yuu wants it. He's getting sucked daily and loving it.

>>150828882
Yeah I buy 700€ rings to my bros all the time, there's absolutely nothing gay with that

>>150829341
Does he get a feeding boner

>>150828081
I hope so. There should be so many that people don't know where to direct their hate and don't all shit in the same thread at once.

>>150828081
They should. Most of the time the bromances are better than the cliche love interests anyways.

I don't mind if it's two boys, two girls, or a boy and girl as long as they had the most interesting relationship in their series.

>>150829493
He demons out every time, so yeah, it's apparently mind-blowing.

>>150828081
I think so. If only because it's one of the few mainstream shows that has shown a naturally developing homo relationship that isn't forced and doesn't have the standard drama. I'd like to see more shows take the plunge to have MCs in relationships like Yuri on Ice or even more side characters.

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>>150829677
A good bromance is almost as satisfying as a homo end, especially if it means some vapid one-dimensional "love interest" loses.

>>150829677
Top tier taste here

>>150828081
Danganronpa 3 of all things depicted homosexuality in a graceful and realistic way.
People should talk about Sakakura more.

I have hope for the new series to deliever. Wouldn't expect already existing to suddenly change direction, especially with such a pussy as kagami

>>150829827
>People should talk about Sakakura more.
We did, when it aired.

It's generally one of the few things that people liked about ZTD3.

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>>150828130
That's a shame

>>150829874
Is there a show where the bro wins instead of the romantic interest? I mean as being the MC's primary target of affection in any way. Can't think of anything.

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>>150829973
>>150829779
Meant to quote

>>150829973
Samumenco?

>>150830048
Masayoshi never had other a romantic interest, but maybe it could count.

>>150829973
best friends to lovers is the most popular romantic trope imaginable, and yet

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>>150829973
There's been a couple that you could argue ended up that way. GetBackers, Rage of Bahamut, Zestiria, pic related at the rate things are going.

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>>150829973
Eva.

>>150829320
It's the first time a canon gay relationship was the main draw for such a massive audience. Usually it either sells like shit or isn't a large part of the story.

>>150829858
I meant in threads or circles outside of those dedicated to the show. Threads such as this one.

>>150830080
Between characters of the same sex is rare, especially in anime. Manga has a bunch of that though.

>>150828882
>show died
>is gonna sell 40k on its first week
I'm sure many producers wish their shows would die like that.

>>150830084
Everything you mentioned only have bromance, also Yamato marries worst girl, you liking it or not.

>>150830195
But in Zesti don't Mikleo and Sorey stay together for eternity at the end of the game?

>>150830106
That's wrong, read more manga and watch more anime.

>>150830069
He never made a move on them (like the average MC) but he could have obviously ended up with Flamenco Girl or even Manager.

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>>150830106
>First time
I don't know how old you are, but this piece of shit was a top seller in the west and was popular for years giving birth to a new generation of fujos.

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>>150830195
>Yamato marries worst girl
Doesn't happen except in your delusions, hambeast. And if you think for one second GetBackers was only bromance, you're too young and stupid to be on this site.

>>150830304
I think he's talking about stuff other than BL.

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>>150830243
Yes. Everyone else dies while Sorey sleeps Appledragon's Malevolence off, and Mikleo takes care of his body until he wakes up hundreds of years later.

>>150830343
In that case, nearly anything by CLAMP.

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>>150830354
>English VNs
Talk about disgusting.

>>150830243
They meet again after hundred of years, but that doesn't mean they are a couple. Sorey is the "too pure and autistic to understand love" type to begin with.

I'm guessing others will follow this trend to try and cash in on it.
Hopefully it will fail. Canon homo in non-BL works is trash.

>>150830337
>Delusional digimon shipper calling me a hambeast

The irony is palpable, also, Kakudou confirmed already that Yamato was going to marry Sora since 1999 Digimon. Eat shit.

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>>150830544
>BL
>Good

>>150830661
Don't worry I know you don't even read BL.

>>150829336
/thread

2d women are too good for him

>>150830544
I propose a bi-sexual harem where the tsundere boy wins. This should piss everyone off as not only best girl loses but so does a best boy as well.

>>150830692
Do you? The majority is shit, only thing that is better now compared to the 2000 BL is the art and that's it. It's still the same shitty plot, tropes and drama.

>>150830410
Clamp tend to be werdly asexual most of the time in term of interactions (Except Drug 1-3), also they get away with it using stuff like hermaphrodite angel.

Even Toya and Yukiko were oddly tame.

>>150830421
That's a Japanese novel, tho'.

>>150830862
BL is basically like Harmony, the only reason it has so much following it's because people can't get any better.

>>150830862
I never get tired of hearing this, it just shows you don't read shit. BL is great right now and expanding into different and new things more than ever.

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>>150830862
This but there are a few gems out there. Maybe this will get picked up if YoI does well.

>>150831031
I read plenty of BL manga, anon, your standards are just too low if you think they are this great.

>>150831147
/r/?

>>150831166
>>>/wsr/

>>150831125
>LGBT ridden shit
Hopefully not. This isn't even BL.

>>150831125
That ain't even BL though, it's straight up drama.

>>150831031
>I never get tired of hearing this, it just shows you don't read shit. BL is great right now and expanding into different and new things more than ever.
BL is very limited in scope, though.

>>150831125
but where is this from anon

>>150831147
I'm not saying they're masterpieces but as BL a lot of them are great. It's just like in every genre, it has good things and bad things. Thinking the majority is bad is just plain retarded.

>>150831294
Shimanami Tasogare

>>150831294
Apologize for being retarded

>>150830181
Allow me to rephrase:
The show was no longer enjoyable for a lot of people in the west once western fujoshits got a hold of it

>>150831125
Damn it, when is this going to update? It's fantastic.

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>>150831233
For the love of christ.
I don't blame you anon. I blame for the existance of tumblrfaggots that have ruined the reputation of stories with homo in them done well to be ignored.
But if you want straight up boys only, no girls allowed then pic related is another good one.

>>150831386
Maybe if you stopped browsing Tumblr you wouldn't have to see your shows ruined by western fujoshits.

>>150831386
Why would it having fujo fans suddenly make it unenjoyable? If anything it's because it's fucking gay and filled with fanservice, not because girls suddenly like it.

>>150831435
They scan takobons instead of magazine chapters, so updates come in clusters once every five months.

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>>150831453
>tumblr filename

>>150831517
Finding this out was suffering, but thank you for being the bearer of bad news.

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>>150829372
Actually kek'd

>>150831538
Can't help if google image search brings up tumblr files.

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>>150831453
Pic related for something that's pretty decent for being about sports, bl and not being yuri on ice

>>150831453
No, I seriously don't give a shit about LGBT problems. Never have, even before it became a tumblr fad. I have zero interest in reading a serious manga about it.
I read Etranger, would be better if MC wasn't such a whiny bitch about muh gay. Vol 2 has less of that so it's been more enjoyable so far.

>>150828130
>won't pair up my waifus with anyone
Shouldn't you be grateful for that? You'd be a cuck otherwise. Or maybe you're into this kind of things.

>>150831356
No.
>>150831538
>Disregards the manga because of a file name
Not that anon but fucking wew

>>150829677
>Most of the time the bromances are better than the cliche love interests anyways.
This niggah knows.

>>150831615
Did they fuck yet? The sexual tension between this two is so good.

>>150831662
No retard, he's point out the irony in complaining about tumblr while using a picture from tumblr.
You really are retarded.

>>150828081
Is there actual homo in this?

>>150831615
10 Dance is godly

>>150831715
>w e w e w e w

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>>150831704
They had a steamy makeout scene on the train, but that's about it

>>150828081
Japanese twilight

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>>150831758
Just good old blood sucking.

>>150831637
Anon, how many BL stories have you read where the homo part wasn't a society issue the couple had to deal with? I'm actually curious because this is typically the driving force in BL and half the appeal of 'forbidden love'. YoI is the only one that comes to mind that doesn't go into this drama.

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>>150831758
OnS? No, but it is gay as fuck.

>>150831715
He is a saucefag that can't even read filenames, man.

>>150831830
blood sucking WITH CAPES ON

>>150829973
Evangelion and soon Tokyo Ghoul

>>150831954
>Evangelion
How the fuck does Kaworu win at all, he always dies

>>150831850
Most? That isn't even hard to find.
It's not like it's completely absent, but they don't go whining about it and making a big deal for two volumes, and counting, like Shun. Even after he's had the dick he's still moody about it, most just drop it before it even gets to that.

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>>150831856
>>150831830
>>150828081
Too bad most fics have Mika topping. Shit fandom.

>>150831856
>OnS? No, but it is gay as fuck.
That's the problem, it's always "gay as fuck" and ends up in fucking nothing. It's tiring that almost every anime nowadays has some strong yuri/yaoi bait just to get some extra sales instead of being some side romance that actually happens in between the plot.

>>150828081
No but Your Name will create a surge of hetero romance movie

>>150831954
>and soon Tokyo Ghoul
The author is a total dicksucker, but I don't it will happen.

>>150831850
>Anon, how many BL stories have you read where the homo part wasn't a society issue the couple had to deal with?

Not him, but almost no BL manga mention this. I think you are confunsing something here.

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>>150832103
>fics

>>150831954
Pure retard

>>150832112
I guess that's the point OP is trying to make. There's so much bait out there but so few good anime and manga have actual legit decent homo relationships. Yuri on Ice is just paving the way to show that genres other than BL can have a homo relationship and still sell like absolute crazy.

>>150831856
Both Yuu and Mika will end with their love interest.

>>150829973
There is Devilman manga franchise.

Love interest gets decapitated. Bro turns out to be hermaphrodite fallen angel in love with MC and takes his V card in the sequel.

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>>150832112
If he doesn't end with a girl and it's VERY close to it's boyfruiend, I considerit a win.

Though it seems most people need a declaration by god for character to be gay, because it's impossible an author would write characters in a different way than the usual template.

>>150832317
No because that's not how japs work. If it's unconfirmed there's no point.

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>>150832112
Nothing wrong with bait or fanservice, it's enjoyable, this ain't a BL anime or OVA, so you won't see any fucking or kissing anyways.

>>150832201
Good porn is good porn. I give you that 90% of fics it's shit, but once you find a good written smut, it's a stable fap.

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>>150832265
Which is bullshit after this sort of baiting, but not surprising.

>>150832352
>No because that's not how japs work.
What does it mean?

>>150830461
They only said he was too pure for women, not love. A skit ingame implies Sorey is consciously in love with someone but doesn't want to tell.

Anyway, the relationship is only implicit so it's not canon homo either way.

>>150832257
Yuri on Ice was targeted toward fujos and they are buying it. It isn't same with cross demographic shows.

>>150832112
I will never understand needing a homo end in normal anime. If you want to see a homo end just read BL. Normal anime is not for this.

>>150828081
Yep, I unironically believe it. We are 5-6 years after Idol anime got huge, the industry need a new market and YoI will tell them that if you make good yaoi people will buy it. Free selling well will be another incentive for them to try.

>>150829739
Amazing what the heterosexual friendship between two heterosexual guys can do.

>>150832352
>No because that's not how japs work. If it's unconfirmed there's no point.
Didn't you get GTFO by YoI?

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>>150832439
I want don't to see a romance homo anime all the time, I want to see an anime where all the stupid baiting makes any fucking sense besides selling to neckbeards/fujoshits.

>>150832265
Mika likes a girl?

>>150832439
Because there's a market for good anime that happens to have homo. Most BL is shit and the good stuff never gets animated.

>>150832451
If anything the creator just took back the "kiss confirmation" and a bunch of nips got mad and called it bait, so I'm just laughing.

>>150832376
Angst >>>>>>>>> smut

>>150832265
Each other

>>150832521
>If anything the creator just took back the "kiss confirmation" and a bunch of nips got mad and called it bait, so I'm just laughing.
You missed the point. You are one of these people who think every character ever is straight until proven 100% and every author write straight characters always, because can't into subtle characterization.

Also that's not what Kubo did.

>>150832496
But why? It's not there to have a romance, it's there to sell it to fujos like you said. You're expecting something that doesn't exist in the first place.

>>150832520
A halfassed romance shoehorned into normal anime isn't any better than a shitty BL adaptation.

>>150832595
>A halfassed romance shoehorned into normal anime isn't any better than a shitty BL adaptation.
You're saying this like normal anime doesn't also often have halfassed romances shoehorned in.

>>150832595
Yes she did.
Japs don't do that, that's the thing.

>>150832585
Shinoa and Krul.

>>150832623
>Japs don't do that, that's the thing.
Who is this Japs?

>>150832521
>creator just took back the "kiss confirmation"
Nope.

>>150832616
And they're terrible right? So I don't understand why anybody would want the same with a homo romance.

>>150832655
You can deny it all you want but she did, there's a reason why everybody is upset.

>>150832623
>Yes she did.
She said "I'm not going to enforce my view of that scene by anyone". Probably because she's getting pestered day and night by the no homo crew.

No to mention it's hardly matter, I don't need Kubo to tell me they are gay because I can look at the screen.

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>>150832439
Me neither, I just want more bi sluts.

>>150832681
>there's a reason why everybody is upset.
What the fuck are you even referring to? She hasn't backtracked on anything. She said in the interview that Medo asked her and was happy with her response, but that she didn't want her opinion to colour other people's interpretation. Leaving it up to interpretation =/= denial, anon.

>>150832681
>You can deny it all you want but she did, there's a reason why everybody is upset.
Oh, I guess they are straight now.

You sounds possibly retarded.

>>150832697
And she also said you should decide for yourself, her words now mean nothing. Regardless of the reason it no longer has her full confirmation, I'm sorry.

>>150828081
I don't think so.

I mean YoI!!! is a one-hit wonder among otaku trash, it won't create a wave because Japanese know it's a one time thing that did fine.

>>150832704
I wouldn't mind bi sluts that end in an ambiguous homo end

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>>150832734
>>150832732
>>150832662
>>150832681
>>150832655
>Still trying to argue with the no-home crow
These are the same people that thought No.6 was straight.

>>150832759
It never had her full confirmation you retard. Go back to the YOI thread and complain there again. Your arguments are weak, stop bringing them into more threads.

>>150832629
There's no way Kruul will survive to the end and in the 1% chance that she does she certainly won't end up with Mika or anyone else. Gay ending actually has a higher probability than this.

>>150832802
I'm not the one parroting "Kubo confirmed!!" every time the "kiss" was brought up, you're mixing me with the YoI fanbase.

>>150828081
Not even No6. managed that, and that one had actual canon homo.

>>150832802
Instead of checking the author twitter have you tried watching the show?

>>150832875
>No.6
>Sold 3k

>>150832439
I will never understand letting homos out of their containment zones. If you want to be gay just go to a gay club. The normal world is not for gays.

>>150832875
No. 6 anime was garbage.

Some show was going to hit like this. BL otaku are one of the fastest growing otaku groups in Japan. (They even get their own name on lists now) Anime was always going to pick up on it.

>>150832908
Yes? It was pretty obviously a kiss and then Kubo compared it to another show that was airing at the same time and had a kiss also. She never confirmed it was an actual kiss, but who cares at this point.

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>>150832921
I don't get it, am I not supposed to agree with this?

>>150832704
Sauce on these bisluts?

>>150832961
BL otaku was always there.

>>150832990
I'm not arguing it wasn't a kiss, I'm arguing with retards who can't seem to understand authors are different people with different tastes and type of storytelling.

>>150832439
Anime is not for normal people anon. BL otaku are a huge group (and a group thats growing fast). Anime was always going to pander to them, its the nature of the industry.

>>150833031
Lurk more newfag.

>>150833050
Okay, but then why ask if I've watched the show?

>>150833035
Yeah but reasearch done recently has indicated that they are not only a huge group, but a group thats growing fast.

>>150832961
Your usual BL and what you see in Yuri are two very different things. I'd be willing to bet most of the nips who're into it aren't really into BL, just homo shipping in anime.

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What the fuck are you guys even talking about? I dropped YoI, but I saw the ring webm, they are confirmed homos, right?

>>150833130
No, and you'll see it end with no official confirmation. Just wait.

>>150833031
You see that guy's name in the dialogue? Google that.

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>>150833160
You again.

>>150833130
This is the only sane conclusion to draw

>>150833160
These are the people who claim spending hundreds of Euros on gold wedding bands is no homo

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>>150833130
They are engaged

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>>150832201
/y/ wrote some god-tier fics about Seraph and Aldona in the past.

>>150833129
This. YoI might have pandered to fujos but it's surpassed them in popularity and has got a lot more people watching. When professional skaters pay attention to an anime about skating you know you're onto something.

>>150828081
YOI had talented director and writter. Not every show targeted towards fujos will have that.

>>150833220
Call me when it's actually confirmed. If they can't do that after all they've done so far, it clearly means something.

>>150833130
>YoI, but I saw the ring webm, they are confirmed homos, right?
Episode 1 didn't tip you off?

>>150833129
Don't be dumb. The people who are buying YoI are the same fujos who buy BL magazines. (All 17 of them) Yes, this anime proved that the "fujos wont buy canon gay" meme was always fucking stupid. In fact, most fujos aren't even that into anime (JDramas/Pop/manga have much bigger audiences), and those are the ones that YoI is really pulling across the line.

>>150833268
>Call me when it's actually confirmed
Why bother? It's clear you don't want to see.

>>150833160
Is this a meme? What the fuck are the rings then? I mean, in SamFlam, Kurata made a joke about gay marriage, but, Victor doesn't look autistic like Masayoshi.

>>150828081
Anohana also sold a lot. It didn't raise a lot of melodrama romance. Some anime just get lucky.

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>>150830195
Zesty is canon gay, studio confirmed and all.

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>>150833364
They're just friends

>>150833319
JDramas? Are they making doujin out of that? But 3D is disgusting.

>>150833364
>Is this a meme? What the fuck are the rings then?
You have to understand, to certain people gay characters can't exist. They are the kind of people who watched No.6 and Eva and thought it was straight and only the authors declaration convinced them.

>>150833319
I don't know, it's just so entirely different and unlike BL. From what I've seen anime fujos in general don't even read much BL either, this just feels like an extended version of that.
Them reeling in non-anime fujos makes a lot more sense and seems more likely to me.

>>150833064 >>150833196
I'm an idiot

>>150833405
That's definitely a hug, right.

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>>150833436
this scene gets better every time i watch it ffs

>>150833321
I'll call that one fag and he whole board actually, when we get a raunchy OVA with their honeymoon shenanigans

>>150833364
Bait.
If they want to give you confirmation they will. If they don't, it's for a reason. We'll see.

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>>150833472
This is my last time responding to someone who hasn't even watched the show

What the fuck are you watching YoI if you dob't like yaoi, just to be saying

>not confirmed

Really no fanbase deserves this, you can't even be subtle anymore because there's always someone who will try to stop you from enjoying things

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>>150832112
Any series that's gay as fuck but ends on uncertain terms is canon gay because it would be absurd to assume either character is asexual just because you don't actually see them fucking. The only time it's baiting is when the character ends up with a girl for no reason other than "lol can't have homos in a christian anime". I'll agree that there's still too much baiting though, since that shit should never happen under any circumstances.

>>150833547
>yaoi

Go back to tumblr anon or at least your general.

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>>150833536
That was sarcasm

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>>150833506
I still can't believe it happened.

>>150833452
Yeah. It's disgusting having to deal with this kind. There are two kiss scenes in No.6, yet such idiots keep on spouting 'NO HOMO'.

>>150833436
>>150833506
It's even better with sound.

https://a.pomf.cat/avkfaq.webm

>>150833637
They even no homo'd it themselves saying the first one was a good night kiss.

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>>150833613

>>150833655
Why the fuck pomf isn't working for me?

>>150833457
Yeah for some reason people on /a/ think that fujos are an anime only thing (Or a Japan only thing) like korean/chinese fujos aren't infamous for their kpop shit. Its almost like idols in the way that a lot of their consumerbase aren't actually anime otaku.

>>150833594
Did you read OPs post at all or do you just have to force your way into every thread until they like it

>>150833614
I realised that shortly after posting. Time for bed. Those people shit up our threads too much and it's getting to me

>>150833581
Then all yuri baiting shows have 100% lesbian ending right. It doesn't work that way. They are only close friends is a good excuse.

>>150833472
Why are they all so shocked and embarrassed? Why did Victor surprise him with a hug?

>>150833670
Do you kiss your pals on the lips for good night?

>>150833728
are you blind

>>150833685
there, there

>>150833712
You really cant compare yuri to BL. Yuri isnt even a market.

>>150833742
You don't?

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>>150833670
It was goodbye kiss, you dolt. And who the fuck kiss each other on the lips when saying goodbye. Homos, that's who.

>>150833742
Do you?

>>150833670
Right, because only bros give each other goodnight kisses on the lips, and its totally not a romantic gesture.

>>150833796
>are you blind
I'm not, I was asking to the hug-anon.

>>150833685
I'm talking about the fact that you wrote yaoi, only clueless and new faggots like you still use this outdated term.

>>150828081
Is this any good?

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>>150833820
>>150833861

>>150833801
>BL
What you have in No.6 or YoI isn't BL.

>>150833801
Yet no of yuri bait exceeds far more than fujobaits.

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>>150833861
>>150833836
>>150833820
>>150833808

>>150833875
I am the hug-anon

please refer >>150833594

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>>150833877
not the same anon who said it.

>>150833877
>t.retard
Yaoi is still perfectly used in japan, shut up already. BL isn't an umbrella term for every kind of homo.

>>150833914
Speak english. And theres a lot more BL anime than yuri anime.

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>>150833883
The manga? Yes. The anime? No, except the blood sucking scene because they made it 10x gayer.

>>150833950
>>150833875

meant the >>150833614
time to go the fuck to sleep

>>150833962
I asked about baiting. Seems like you can't answer stuff properly.

>>150833978
Was there only one blood sucking scene? I need to know for reasons.

>>150833961
Yes, go ahead and call Gengoroh a yaoi mangaka. Retard.

What's the difference of yaoi and BL?

>>150834121
Nothing.

>>150834087
What, you actually think he would actually be called BL mangaka?
He does fucking geicomi, it's a completely different genre.

>>150833405
I really can't see what's gay about this. Fucking fujoshits have taken over the board and convinced every remaining person on here with a sense of decency besides me that something innocent like this is somehow gay. I can't believe it but I always knew it would happen someday.

>>150834121
Yaoi has explicit fucking in it

>>150834021
How do you expect me to respond when you didn't even speak english. "Yuribaiting" is a lot different than fujobaiting. Fujobait anime are handmade specifically for fujos. "Yuribaiting" is just some tropes a bunch of anime for brief moments have that ultimately discard. Fujobait anime dont have het endings on purpose. "Yuribait" do because theyre not really trying to bait a market. (So its not even bait honestly. Theres no one to bait.)

>>150834121
Yaoi involves hardcore fucking and having that as the main draw, while BL is the romance aspect of it more than the just fucking.

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>>150834190
Fucking fujoshits ruining anime with their delusion.

>>150834190
You're a retard, but it's clear you also haven't watched the show and saw that scene in context.

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>>150834195
>>150834212
BL is an umbrella term and includes everything.

>>150834190
You're right, fellow anon! I too think it's ridiculous that these degenrates think telling your bro to stay beside you for ever, hugging him constantly, looking down at him lovingly as you stay atop of him on the ice, buying him 3 digit figure golden rings in euros and putting them on his hand inside a church, telling everyone those were engagement rings...all of those are totally non-faggot things to do and I in no way understand why the fujos saw romance in any of this very straight anime.

>>150834164
I didn't say that, you fucking mong. I know the difference between the genres, you don't need to lecture me.

take out the gay and yoi would be forgettable seasonal trash. the main relationship is on the level of boku no pico

>>150834121
None really, it varies with the context. You won't really hear nip fujos calling BL "yaoi", but you'll see other otaku calling anything with homo "yaoi".
The only thing you need to know is that BL is a specific genre about male/male romance.

These two >>150834195 >>150834212 are huge misconceptions that came from the west using "yaoi" and "shounen-ai" to differentiate their BL manga. It only applies to western sites.

>>150834200
A lot of yuri bait don't even have any male characters. So by your definition two girls in close term should be gay just like your fujobait anime.

>>150834322
Yeah but BL is the umbrella term and can include yaoi, but it's not the other way around.

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>>150834344
nothing compares to that masterpiece anon

>>150834200
"Yuribaiting" is just some tropes a bunch of anime for brief moments have that ultimately discard. Fujobait anime dont have het endings on purpose. "Yuribait" do because theyre not really trying to bait a market.

You are not making much sense anon

>>150834121
nothing. i think japana just uses bl for everything homo westerners still like to make stupid distinctions that don't work anymore. i always cringe when I see people still use shonen-ai.

>>150834367
no

>>150834336
Then what the fuck is your point? Using yaoi to refer to Tagame's shit is perfectly valid.

>>150834344
I'm a fujo and I agree with this. This series is going to be forgotten in just a year or so, thank god.

It's all bait. "friendship rings", my ass. It sounds like they were just trying to get through censors and it's absolutely uncomfortable to watch.

>>150834367
No, you're retarded. Stop talking.

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>>150834200
>Yurifags don't exist

>>150834387
Yuribait doesn't exist. Anime do not include yuri to bait in an audience. (Because such an audience does not exist)

>>150834367
It is, actually. Both are umbrella terms that include everything. Some people just use one for explicit and the other for soft romance, but they're mistaken if they think that's an agreed upon standard.

>>150834414
Yaoi is a fucking mock term.

>>150834440
They don't exist in any resonable number in Japan. Theres 1 yuri magazine. There are 17 established BL magazines. Its just not comparable. It may be different in the west, but the west doesnt matter.

>>150834420
>"friendship rings"
They didn't say this. I can tell you're baiting though.

>>150834477
It doesn't matter, it's not outdated and still used.

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>>150834446

>>150834420
Me too anon. This is the worst thing that's happened to homo in anime.

>>150834121
One is outdated and only used by westerners, the other is correct and the preferred term in Japanese.

>>150834503
I'm not? I watch the series and fully enjoy it as a fan of BL but I'm just not quite getting this super obsession when it's not explicitly stated that they got engaged. I guess after seeing spoilers, I was expecting a full love confession/proposal and that's not what we got.

>>150834562
>One is outdated and only used by westerners
Wrong.

>>150834509
Used by shitty otakus from futaba and clueless bystanders maybe.

>>150828081
Anime with faggot characters
Not called yaoi....

>>150834532
There are no Yurifags in Japan anon. I know its tough for you to hear but its true. Yuri is mostly for joking purposes.

>>150834420
funny thing is the people are saying its so brave when love stage did it before. it was censored but at least they didn't cut it out. YOI is a fantasy, the guys are good looking, healthy, mentally stable, rich, popular, and there's no discrimination in their world. there's no appeal for me in perfect people in a perfect world. the occasional hiccup socially doesn't give a character depth. it's a Disney fairy tale romance.

Read Devilman and Devilman Lady. Its the gayest shit ever appealing to yurifags, futa, and tops it off at the end with some really twister homoeroticism unseen in any other anime or manga to this day. Its never said up front though. The third part Devilman Saga has straight up homo but there is only 1 volume translated atm.

>>150830304
some good shit.

>>150834579
That doesn't change anything, the term is still used and nobody in japan will sperg at you for using it

>>150834566
>when it's not explicitly stated that they got engaged
>>150834247
You sure are a retard.

>>150834566
You really don't watch the show, do you?

>>150834594
Honestly the fact that it's so normalized is what completely killed it for me.
Too much like real life.

>>150834566
Victor "theyre engagement rings!"
>"but its not explicitly stated"
Bait harder.

>>150834591
A lot of yuri manga has decent sale though. There's definitely an audience.

>>150834538
I don't even mind it. It's enjoyable from a plot perspective, and I guess why it has the appeal from figure skaters and those that normally don't watch anime. The animation is lacking and the choreographed sequences could have been pulled off better, but the "BL subplot" feels absolutely like bait, even going so far to use JPN LGBT specific wording to make it as "bait-y" as possible without actually crossing the line of full on canon. It's more uncomfortable to me that they are going that far?


>>150834594
I've said this same thing to friends but they are quick to point out that Love Stage is categorized as BL while this isnt.

>>150834496
>Theres 1 yuri magazine.

That can't be right. Don't yuri also get published in normal shoujo magazine?

>>150828081

If Sailor Moon didn't, why would this?

>>150834594
>>150834694
>homo is only good if there's discrimination and suffering
Fujos are truly subhuman scum. This board would be better if women weren't allowed to post.

>>150834331
It's true, all true, that none of that is gay

>>150834719
Do they put BL in shounen? You really know nothing, do you? Yuri isn't popular. There is no audience. Yuri manga have the highest turnover rate of any genre because no one reads it.

>>150834737
No, homo is good if you don't act like a flamboyant homosexual about it or a complete degenerate in front of everybody.
Like I said, too much like real life.

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>>150834591
Ok then, we don't exist, glad to know

>>150834694
what the fuck is wrong with you

>>150834594
>gays are only good for suffering in fiction

You know that's actually the appeal, right? If you want tragedy and melodrama for that, watch Eva or No.6. Shit.

>>150834798
Not in Japan, which is what really matters. How can you be a yurifag and not notice the state of the yuri manga genre?

>>150834787
Source?

>>150834803
Homo in Eva? Where?

>>150834846
He was just being sarcastic.

All these people pretending to be fujos and slipping up is pretty funny.

>>150834800
See, you guys not understanding this just shows YoI fags don't even like BL.

>>150834789
>replying a troll
Report and kill, not that hard.

>>150834846
But I read a decent ammount of yuri manga, I never felt short on it

>>150834803
Eva isn't gay. Shinji is bi.

>>150834737
That's fujo mentality for you, they want melodrama and suffering to justify their perverted fetishes with perceived depth.

Just read the average BL with it's romance drama exactly like some mexican tv novel, misunderstandings, some extra dose of rape. The end.

>>150834919
No, it shows that most fujos are actually huge bigots who treat gays like a fetish. I bet you like rape too, you piece of shit.

Man, I'm thankful that people seem to think me talking makes me not look like a fujo... I'm finally free from this label. I'll be a respectful member of society when I finally transfer to JPN and no one will know who I secretly am.

>>150834931
Is it your first day? You can't tell when you see bait? Be better than that.

>>150834878
Source? Im not retarded? You think they put lesbians in magazines aimed at preteens? (There IS actually shoujo with faux BL and josei with BL though. Where do you think Kiss Him, Not Me? came from?) Girls are fujos and otome- they don't like yuri.

>>150834896
Kaworu.

>>150834911
It's really pathetic. It's also pathetic that one (1) show is triggering /a/ this fucking much.

>>150834976
>a female alien in a body that takes a human male appearance is gay

Shinji is the only bifaggot. Kaworu is technically straight and into xenoshit.

>>150834960
Uh, do you not know what fujos are? BL fetish is literally the definition.

>>150835012
Kaworu is female?

>>150834982
Heteroscum hate it because it's gay.
Fujotrash hate it because it's about love rather than horrible rape and suffering.
Only homos win, which is great for a change.

>>150834960
No fucking shit idiot. BL and real life gays are two different things, they're not meant to resemble in any way. That's the whole fucking point of the genre.

>>150834787
Nah, nevermind, probably not the norm, but there was a shoujo ai manga being published in the same magazine as 14-sai no Koi which is josei.

>>150834968
Again source or fuck off.

>>150834946
More proof YoIfags don't read BL. Keep it coming please.

>>150835036
This is true.

>>150834982
Because apparently new mods allow it.

>>150835036
Fujos don't hate YoI. Fujos are the ones buying YoI. Anyone on this board who claims otherwise is delusional.

>>150834968
>Kiss Him, Not Me
The FeMC is a bislut whose first kiss is with a dyke.

>>150834737
You're a retard. How about you stop posting.
>>150834803
Not my point. The Disney fairy tale vibes are strong in YOI. They're getting married, too? It doesn't need suffering but if that means it has to be perfect, then I'm not into it. I've watched movies and shows with gay couples and I wasn't annoyed at the lack of discrimination. Some self awareness would help YOI though.

>>150835036
Homos in Japan don't majorly like it. Because it's not explicitly sold as a love/romance story, and it doesn't really represent anything for the LGBT community there, as the fictional world it takes place in is perfect and 100% accepting.

You can tell who a series is for by looking at it's merchandising: Animate has YOI specifically in the fujoshi/girls section. This series is not for the homo crowd.

>>150835048
I could see yuri in Josei, yeah. But in shoujo? Anyone who thinks that doesnt know how manga is published.

Kubo's lack of discrimination is a meme.

>>150828081
>>150828724
>>150830084
>>150833254
Oh look, the infamous Seraph fujoshit known for spamming long paragraphs about her fanfic of Mika and Yuu is back again

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/dkQ8nRhIXFV1MrhZ_pTpwg/

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/hMPKz2cB9tO9jKuRSKcjvQ/

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/LrOdny3h82mbBmcmQtqkeg/

https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/2zYmKHQFvZI_wwSgQujWKA/

>>150835127
No anime series has ever been, so I don't see what you're trying to convey. Gay things for gays are only in manga. Please learn more before posting.

>>150835029
In NGE, Kaworu is Adam who is the Mother of Angels. The female of species of the seed of life as is the only one capable of procreation. For example, Armisael took a Rei appearance talking to Rei but it's male because it can only impregnate/sire (the Impact is actually conception, pregnancy and childbirth on world-affecting basis). The seeds of life can shapeshift at will. Shinji is still a fag because he had no idea and prefers Adam's human male appearance.

By cosmologic gymnastics, Kaworu is heterosexual. He would be gay if were after Rei who has a similar function.

Anima makes Shinji the female side, though. So it's still "but not too gay."

>>150835211
>I don't see what you're trying to convey
Read the reply chain then.

>>150835211
I know that. It was just the way that post was phrased with "the homos win" as if they care about YOI.

>>150835097
Why does it have to be about drama? Why does it need realism? I dropped YoI, but you faggots are whiny as fuck.

>>150835252
They do. Western audiences are very different from Japanese audiences. Western homos and Japanese fujos like YOI, but western Fujos hate it because they're bottom of the barrel subhuman trash that should be incinerated.

>>150835127
There is a manga that deals with those themes.

YoI is very light-hearted, it rarely has melodrama. That was never what it was supposed to be. There's no reason to suddenly go into this plot.

>>150835055
>Preteen girls love lesbians!
Source please? You're than one that claimed shoujo has lots of yuri.

>>150835223
I think I get it

>>150835305
*are manga

>>150835294
You're stupid, YoI is the biggest show among western girls right now.
The only ones who dislike it are the minority of western fujos who actually read BL.

>>150835294
No, they don't. I have family members and friends currently in JPN and are LGBT, and the way YOI is treated in Japan currently is that of a purely fujo perspective.

The last sentence doesn't make sense.

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>>150835182
It's archiver-kun!

>>150835318
You said Yuri has no audience. Give me source on that.

>>150835253
Dunno. I guess some people just want all media to be gritty or even edgy, otherwise they are fairytales and fantasies? But anime is mostly for escapism, so.

>>150835305
And that's fine. I don't mind the series, I enjoy it. It's, however, being treated by it's fanbase and by people as though it IS a love story, rather than about a guy who has zero confidence when it comes to his skating abilities, and his rise at bettering himself.

>>150835356
>YoI is the biggest show among western girls right now.
Those are just normal girls. The fujos are the "ones who actually read BL", and they're the ones with shit taste who should be gassed.

>>150835423
>anime is mostly for escapism
People have a hard time grasping this.

>>150835356
Falling for bait again. Stay here for at least 1 year longer.

>>150835029
Kaworu thing has been progressively made "it's not gay" guys, when it began as 100% homo, because Anno has lost touch with reality. First with the Adam is technically female in function shit. Then in SRW, Kaworu is listed as genderless or as neutral gender (like Touma of Aquarion). Then Anima came and made Shinji's existence the female, and sinful part of Adam, split from the male and good side, Kaworu. It's also noted he can shapeshift. His angel XX series self, Tabris XX, for example, didn't become female because of a mix with Rei's ADN like the other angels (who had their souls removed and put into mixed blood vessels), but actually is just Kaworu shifting into a female lilin body.

I think this is a response to how Japan sees Kaworu and Shinji as OTP so they are handwaving the homo part with this convoluted bullshit.

>>150835404
Yano institutes yearly otaku report:
http://www.yano.co.jp/press/press.php/001628

Honestly though, anyone whose watch anime for a decent amount of time should have realized.

>>150834344
Thank you. I think part of the reason why it's even doing as well as it is is because it IS that kind of show, but just with two boys instead of a boy/girl couple. That in itself is kind of interesting to mainstream audiences since they've rarely seen that dynamic with two men.

I mean, that's ignoring the decent writing and everything, but still it seems "novel".

>>150835524
It also pulls in the wider fujo audience in Japan that's turned off by all the shota.

>>150835485
We get some sort of yuri every season, if anything it's getting proeminent

>>150835568
Shota are not a big thing in BL manga.

>>150835578
No you don't. You're delusional and call things like hibike yuri. CGDCT is not yuri, yurifag. And anything that even really hints at it like FF is a financial disaster.

>>150835659
What about Madoka? I mean, the films.

>>150835605
But it is a big thing in BL anime.

>>150835659
So you count stuff like Osomatsu-san and Mob as yaoi but we can't call the gayer spectrum of CGDCT yuri? interesting

>>150835696
No it isn't. BL anime are just adaptations of BL manga and barely even exist.

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>>150835578
You guys are getting cocky ever since that Citrus announcement, huh, don't go crying when it'll flop.

>>150832533
angst with smut>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>angst>>>smut

>>150835681
What about eva? Just because a popular show has gay undertones doesn't make the gay undertones popular.

>>150835485
What does a report about otaku has to do with yuri have no audiance.

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>>150835725
The dude said we don't exist, what am I supposed to do

>>150835718
It's a matter of funding. Osomatsu-san isn't yaoi, but its funded by the fujo audience. No such yuri audience exists.

>>150835321
NGE and, in particular, EoE, has a lot of Oedipus Complex going on. The scene with Gendo getting told by Kaworu, Rei and Yui in EoE was a symbol of how the Triad of Mothers chose the son over the father (and they join him: the whole world is destroyed and remade with Shinji becoming one with Yui first, as merging with Eva 01, then fusing with the Giant with is a fusion of Lilith/Rei and Kaworu/Adam: it's alien cosmic sex. The function is the same: union, impregnation, birth). Kaworu is the mother who Shinji shows romantic interest for because is the only one who isn't related to him. Technically, Kaworu could have had a female body, but he also embodied Shinji's ego ideal in flesh, so it necessarily had to be male in appearance. It's one of Anno's psychoanalysis symbolisms.