So why is Flip Flappers being completely ignored by the Japs?

Shit taste.

Because it's bad

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because the cute girls are lusting for each other and not some self-insertfag

It's pretty uninteresting.

*Nobody* and I mean *nobody* gives a shit about actual girls love. It's only for masturbating too and everyone knows it.

>>150787616
It feels like someone decided to take Space Dandy's episodic shenanigans, replace the cast with generic cute girls, and remove the fun.

The nips have shit taste but this is one show that deserves to flop.

>>150787849
c-can yuri ever be saved, anon?

I asked myself the same question when Phantom World was airing.

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>>150787616
No marketing. Though I think it's popularity is rising with every episode.

>>150787849
Yuri is the most boring thing to fap to. It only exists for mindbreak doujins.

If they were boys it wouldnt have flopped.

Simple, it doesn't have male homo romance

>>150788639
>>150787849
This. People like boys love cause boys arent shit when it comes to gay.

>>150788979
No it would have sold because BL has a market. (A fucking huge one apparently) Yuri does not.

>>150789037
And that's because boys love is more endearing (and realistic).

BL sucks because they are destined to do anal

>>150788999
So, multi-layered and fucking delicious?

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>>150788999
I don't get it, but I'm hungry now.

>>150789088
Lesbian "sex" is literally just glorified masturbation.

>>150789083
They're both porn. There is no expectation of realism. Fujos have buying power, love em or hate em, and can prop up multiple homoerotic anime past 10k in one season. Yuri has no such supporters. Thats what this boils down to. If they want to sell weirder stuff that doesn't appeal to otaku, they need to appeal to someone else.

>>150788999
It's like that pizza taco thing except different.

>>150789230
At least they don't put their dicks in places it really shouldn't go in

>>150788999
Disgusting

>>150789323
Says someone who hasnt tried it.

>>150788999
>american cuisine

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>>150789380
With good reason

>>150789323
The only place where dicks shouldn't go in is your mother's vagina.

>>150789644
Anyone who refuses to get fucked at least once is obviously gay.

>>150787616
Yurishit garbage

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>>150788999
absolutely fucking disgusting

>>150789706
I'd rather be gay than have a dick up my ass

Because they aren't boys, otherwise fujoshits would have made it very successful

>>150789083
Well, FLFL was pretty much the most endearing thing I've seen in years until they laced the whole thing with SUFFERING.

>>150787897
more like flip-FLOPPERS

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>>150788999
what the fuck

>>150788999
Looks starchy as shit, and would turn into a mass of undifferentiated paste within ten minutes. That shit you've got to eat fast.

>>150789180
What was that "gragra" thing that papika couldn't say in the flashback? Au Gratin?

>>150787616
Lack of any serious marketing.

But then Yuki Yuna was also seriously lacking, and it gets second season, right next month.

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Nips have shit taste pic related

>>150788999
>absolutely bonkers in the beginning, but by the end we're salivating for more

>>150788999
This video better be a satire. No one deserve to eat that. That's not food, that's an abomination.

>>150787616
First 9 episodes are bad.

>>150791343
Plenty of anime were successful without marketing. Its just not a show nips are interested in.

>>150787616
Because it isn't. It's selling about average for a show of its type, it's just that /a/ thinks that because they talk about a show more than average it should also sell better.

>>150791758
>It's selling about average for a show of its type
Really?

holy fuck I'm a retard for not making that connection

Man this thread is really convincing me fujos are a terrible fanbase.

>>150791837
Which connection?

BL-otaku exist in significant enough numbers to be counted separately.

>Idol: 255 respondents
79,783 yen (US$700) each
>Maid, cosplay-related service: 45 respondents
37,289 yen (US$327) each
>Anime: 684 respondents
29,843 yen (US$262) each
>Train model: 77 respondents
25,891 yen (US$227) each
>Military (toy gun, survival game): 90 respondents
24,178 yen (US$212) each
>Professional wrestling: 63 respondents
23,397 yen (US$205) each
>Figure: 172 respondents
21,799 yen (US$191) each
>Plastic model: 132 respondents
19,928 yen (US$175) each
>Cosplay clothing: 57 respondents
18,526 yen (US$185) each
>Dōjinshi: 162 respondents
17,512 yen (US$154) each
>Doll: 51 respondents
17,373 yen (US$152) each
>Voice actor: 142 respondents
16,687 yen (US$146) each
>Online game: 280 respondents
16,393 yen (US$144) each
>Manga: 774 respondents
16,370 yen (US$144) each
>AV (adult video, DVD): 87 respondents
13,471 yen (US$118) each
>Boys love: 85 respondents
13,153 yen (US$115) each
>Romance game (excluding adult games): 94 respondents
11,681 yen (US$102) each
>Light novel: 207 respondents
11,133 yen (US$98) each
>Vocaloid: 78 respondents
8,950 yen (US$78) each

>>150791851
Now make them red

>>150791836
Yeah, average for an anime original with little marketing and little name recognition outside a few niche interest guys. A couple of thousand BDs is what those usually sell, and the actual quality of a show really doesn't matter all that much. Sometimes there's a breakout hit like Yuri on Ice that just happens to hit the zeitgeist perfectly, but that is a big exception to the norm and shouldn't be considered normal by any means.

>>150791758
Well if we like it than the japs should like it too

>>150791840
>this thread
If you've been a weeb for more than a year you know that dealing with hambeasts is the definition of suffering. They are a bunch of know-it-all who insists that dicks going into dude asses is the purest form of love.

Seriously man, this one hambeast has been trying to get me to watch Ai no Kusabi for ten fucking years. And she's married and has kids. shudders.

>>150792051
Maybe you should fucking watch it then

>>150787616
What about shitload of art? Sales doesn't equal the actual popularity.

>>150788999
What's all the hype about this is just how you eat ramen in the US

>>150792129
I'm not seeing it on pixiv

>i-it's on twitter!

>>150792129
This has lots of art?

>>150792049
It's not so much about how much people like it and more about how many people care about it in the first place. The guys discussing it on 2ch sure seem to like it about as much as we do.

>>150792207
No.

Pixiv is pretty barren when it comes to flifla.

>>150792243
Look on twitte3r

>>150790841
Suffering isn't bad. Bad suffering is bad. FliFla still has a few episodes left before we can call it.

>>150792051
All weeb fanbases are disgusting.

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>>150791874

>>150792230
the series was clearly made by otaku for otaku. Its chock full of homages to every series imaginable. Of course they would love it, they are us, we are the same.

It will never be huge like YOI and that is fine. Every few years you get a gift like this from a studio, enjoy it

>>150792275
I hope I can agree with you, but the whole thing is so weird, I don't know how they could make it inspiring again.

>>150792258
Called it >>150792197

>>150792384
well no shit genius, you "calling it" because it's true and everyone knows it doesn't constitute a burn.

>>150790841
I don't see how suffering is a problem tho?

I mean, there's also mahou shoujo ikusei keikaku, and it's apparently doing better than soushin shoujo matoi because it has more suffering.

>>150792456
msik is doing well because it's an adaptation that comes with an established fanbase

>>150792367
Explain Cocona's backstory.
Cocona's troubled past has been hinted at since the beginning and having some confirmation in that, for me, would make me appreciate her as a character more.

>>150792456
I mean more meta suffering. It's like "Papika is actually 40 years old?!??!" It was so unexpected it's hard to imagine that they have a plan to deal with it in the narrative, and it's just going to be one of those poor writing things that makes no sense and you kind of groan and move on.

>>150792332
All anime are made by otaku for otaku.

>>150792258
Japanese fanart or western fanart?

>>150791873
mimi's coconas mama

>>150792538
I thought her troubled past worked just fine casting her as a misfit, who just had a lot of trouble opening up to others. Lots of people don't need a supernatural backstory to have problems.

>>150792437
yeah, I'm sure the amount of fanart is "massive"

They don't like GNU

>>150792542
>Papika is actually 40 years old
That's up to debate because time doesn't actually exist.

source: Dr. Salt

>>150792542
>It was so unexpected it's hard to imagine that they have a plan to deal with it in the narrative

They've been hinting at it since episode 3 dude. Stop pretending that because you personally couldn't see it coming from a mile away that means it was made up on the spot.

Not to mention when stuff like this really is built up way in advance people are just going to call it predictable.

>>150792622
Go interject somewhere else, Richard.

>>150792538
I hope they can do a psychoanalysis episode of Cocona like what they did in ep 6.

Yuri aside (and I don't actually think there's enough Yuri to be offputting- its just not the draw that it is for westerners), this kind of anime doesn't sell well unfortunately.

>>150792197
>>150792243
Yup, pixiv is dead because of some drama. Japs are actually prefer twitter now.
By the way there are 169 pics on danbooru, which is huge for an original ongoing show. And YoI has only 183.

>>150792627
Does that mean Cocona is 40 too, and Flip Flap is the cute ara aras doing cute ara ara things anime we've always wanted?

>>150792694
> pixiv is dead because of some drama. Japs are actually prefer twitter
...what?

When I went to Comiket last summer, Pixiv was huge.

>>150792694
>YoI has only 183.
That says more about the people who upload to danbooru than about the amount of fanart.

>>150792690
Oh god no. "MBTI-kun" was a huge faggot.

>>150792694
How does twitter replace something like pixiv? It seems like the temporal parts of twitter wouldn't work well for searching older fanart...

>>150792694
Look up some YoI or UtaPri tags on pixiv and tell me how dead it is.

>>150792694
Pixiv may have declined but there's still a lot more art there for other shows this season that for flifla.

>>150792736
MBTI is as good as astrology. I mean a character introspection ep.

>>150787708
>>150791493
Only if you're a tard.

>>150792694
>YoI has only 183.
But it's getting name recognition in South Park of all place.

Granted, Japan loves South Park and draw ikemen yaoi version of Kenny and friends. But it's not everyday you see anime namedropped in mainstream Western media, let alone a pseudo-homo anime.

>>150792762
Because it's something Japanese artists already use, unlike every other site apart from pixiv itself.

What happened on pixiv exactly? I have noticed some artists I follow haven't posted anything up there at all for months but have uploaded most of their recent works to twitter.

>>150792762
>How does twitter replace something like pixiv?
Very poorly.
But I suppose it has more of a social aspect to it, which is what the kids like these days.

>>150792694
Don't compare FF to YoI in popularity. Its a losing game. YoI has multiple Japan twitter trends everytime an episode airs. Its much better to compare obvious difference the quality.

>>150792805
Probably because they got some social connections with those fanartists from the tweek x craig episode.

>fanart means stuff is popular

>>150792805
You only need one fujoshi animator in the South Park studio for that to happen. It has nothing to do with how popular SP is in Japan.

>>150792830
They changed the UI or something, I'm personally not seeing much of a difference but I'm probably using Pixiv differently from the people that really care.

>>150792694
>pixiv is dead because of some drama
elaborate.

>>150792830
Apparently, pixiv changed some rules that would allow them to somehow gain ownership of all the fanart uploaded on pixiv or something in that vein, and make money out of it for themselves.

I cannot confirm that, though.

>>150792866
I honestly think that when you create something insired by the show it means more than when you just buy it.

>>150792932
Holy fuck.

>>150792932
The eternal Japajew? Not surprised.

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>>150792866
>flipfags grasping at straws
Show is bad, period.

>>150792903
Are you honestly trying to argue that flip flappers is anywhere near as popular as YoI, UtaPri, Drifters or Touken Ranbu in Japan? Do you honestly think that FF will ever come close to any of them?

>>150793052
I don't believe I said anything about Flip Flappers, you idiot.

>>150793096
Then why are we even having this debate if we all agree its unpopular in Japan?

>>150793179
Because you're a faggot

>>150787616
Because it's shit

>>150793179
Your point being?

>>150787616
Bad show being ignored in sales? It's almost like this happens every fucking season.

Flip Flappers may not be the worst thing to air this year but it's trying damn hard to be the special snowflake that could.

>>150793179
It's not as popular as four massively popular things, yes. Thank you for your deeply insightful analysis.

And you absolutely can't put Drifters in that lineup either, even though it's obviously more popular than FF on account of being based on a fairly popular manga by a well known artist.

>>150793261
I'd say its less popular than Izetta in Japan and thats a tragedy.

>>150793301
Izetta has some famous names and BUNBUN

>>150789083
>t. fujoshi

>>150793301
The real tragedy is that this obvious bait-thread is a bigger trainwreck than Izetta.

>>150793301
Why is that a tragedy?

Izetta is a good original work.
Flip Flappers is a bad original work.

Izetta has good world-design and yuribait.
Flappers has terrible world-design and yuribait.

Neither of the two shows will be breaking any records but the popularity makes sense.

>>150793301
Izetta panders heavily to the miliota/GuP/Strike Witches crowd.

>>150792641
They've been hinting at something, but not that.

Maybe it's because it kind of hits a place that's too real. Papika goes from being this magical pixie who lives in an imaginary world to being a sad slob who could never grow up. She becomes exactly the kind of person you'd think she was if such a person existed in real life.

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>>150793388
>Izetta has good world-design

>>150793378
It's true. This thread so far is absolutely shit. Disgusting. I'll come back next morning and find a new thread.

The real question is why O;9 is so unpopular?

>>150787774
Where is Yuyu?

Because nobody understands the fucking plot.

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>>150793388
>your entire post

Honestly the only thing going for it is the art direction.
Everything else isn't really anything to sneeze at. It doesn't fill a niche (like fujoshit and YoI), narrative changes drastically episode to episode and failed to catch people's attention.

>>150793445
Although, there are some angles on the sad Christmas cake that make her a bit more moe.

>>150793484
Because it's fucking unwatchable.
It's probably more popular in Japan where you can actually just LISTEN to the the LN audiobook that plays at 2x speed.

>>150793489
Busy fucking Toto's ass.

>>150793499
The plot is whatever you want it to be.

>>150787616
Flip Flappers is so weird. I usually stick to the 3 episode rule but those 3 episodes were so full of nothing I kept going, ended up dropping it at 5.

It's like trying to be everything but accomplishing nothing. It's episodic but the episodes themselves aren't really self-contained nor interesting. I dunno, just feels like a waste of time watching it. But I'm not into Yuri at all so maybe that's why.

>>150789131
>multi-layered
Are you blind?
>fucking delicious
Are you tasteless?

>>150793499
It's just you, and that's because you're a genuine idiot.

>>150793445
>sad slob who could never grow up
so basically the intended audience?

>>150793650
Man I hope you never end up watching a show that's actually about nothing, like Space Dandy.

>>150793744
Yep. Hits way too close to home.

>>150793708
>lol girl meet girl, girls go on adventures, it's so simple!
I already spoke for you because no, that's not even close to what the plot is and you know it.

>>150787616
I don't know, FliFla is my second favorite show this season, but it lacks some stuff which I believe could've been handled better.

>>150788639
It's depressing how true this is.
>>150793764
Kill yourself

The Japanese don't like something just because its weird.

Yayaka Henshin when?

>>150793764
FLFL is not really hard to understand

>>150793792
My point exactly,

>>150793764
>I won't accept that it's simple but I'll also insist that I don't understand it.

>>150787616
>Japs having shit taste
No surprise

>>150793764
>that's not even close to what the plot is
are you seriously this dense.

"girl meet girl, girls go on adventures" is what exactly happened to both Mimi and Cocona.

>>150787616
Japs dont like chunni anime.
Every episode is "amazing adventure in Pure Illusion"; Cocona dont live in the real world anymore, what happened with her parents and grandmother? She still taking class in the school? she´s interested in men?

>>150793917
>Japs dont like chunni anime.

Hmmm?

>>150793756
What kind of assumption is that?

Space Dandy is great, Flip Flappers is not even on its level.

You can be episodic without being boring.

Episode 5 was the only good ep desu

>>150793813
Seems very unlikely

Its an original anime.

>>150787616
First half was great and then it went to shit. I'm still going to finish the last episodes but goddamn.

>>150793813
Next episode.
I hope.

>>150792641
>They've been hinting at it since episode 3 dude
The fact that Papika is actually a middle-aged woman? No, not really.

>>150793948
I would have loved an FLFL without an overarching plot, or at least not much of one.

>>150793917
>Japs dont like chunni anime.
Yeah man Yumekui Merry and Chunnibyou were terrible flops and Japan hated them.

Are all flipflapper fans this stupid?

>>150793650
>>150793756
Reminder shows don't need defined character arcs, expository dialogue, plot progression, explanations or narrative hooks to be "something". The idea that someone can see these unique painstakingly crafted worlds full of wonder and discovery and see nothing is just bizarre to me.

I actually wish Flip Flappers didn't become so narrative heavy these last couple of episodes. Space Dandy was genius because it marginalized the narrative the best that it could in a commercial work and still managed to tie everything together. Television is regressive because all anime needs to have a story in this format. The masses can't see value in a work of fiction unless it has a story.

>>150793885
>this show really is shitty yuribait
Dropped

>>150794095
I could agree with that if it hadn't meant that half of Space Dandy was crap.

>>150787708
Basically that

Not really sure why people here are obsessed with it

>>150794095
Mushishi

>>150794149
Isn't half of any show crap though? You just don't notice it because you can be like "the shit episode y got us from x to z so it's OK!"

>>150794201
Yuribait and psuedointellectualism.

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>make a visually beautiful anime
>make it boring as shit
Every fucking time

>>150792787
That's not how you spell “someone with some taste”.

>>150794041
Not going to bat for a fag that can't even spell, but citing a show that's half a decade old and a show that's not chuuni but ABOUT chuuni (and only tangentially so too, despite it being in the name) is not the smartest argument to be made here.

>>150794095
FliFla is not some underappreciated episodic gem. It's not a 'world full of wonder and fantasy'. It's just boring.

>>150794260
Most action anime seem to live and die on this principle.

>>150794260
First of all, no, not half of "all" shows is crap, what the hell.

Secondly, you're correct in the sense that when Space Dandy was bad, and it was bad quite often, it was completely worthless.

>>150793388
>literal ripoff of WWII with witches
>good

As far as I know FliFla has a really good world design.

>>150794095
What you're saying you want is kid's cartoons so fuck off and watch those instead of complaining about FF you autistic manchild.

>>150792051
>hambeast married with children
>meanwhile you're still a kiseless virgin
This is sad.

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>>150793388
That is some impressively shit taste. Here's your (you). You earned it.

>>150794395
>literal ripoff of WWII with witches

I fail to see the problem here

>>150794201
Sakuga twitter circle told everyone to like it.

And at first, it was a weird animu for the wannabe-sakuga hipsters on /a/.
But then somebody posted the tweet that had the scriptwriter say that the yuri-elements between the two protagonists was intentional (no bait), and then the yurifag-crowd started watching it religiously too, and they then wanted it to make the next Madoka because it has symbolism and girls-adolescence that involves perhaps falling in love with other girls and stuff.

>>150792588
Yeah but it's a fictional story so there could/should be a reason. Her character is interesting enough with what we can see of her troubles already but explaining her childhood would make her so much more well-rounded.

>>150792805
SP is exactly the series to mention an anime about gay sex on ice

>>150793885
But so much other shit is happening along the way. The KKK, Yayaka's story, the twins story, how pure illusion was created, how does Cocona get home, what the purpose of Papika is. It's all one gigantic storyline. Anyone who thinks it's still "girls going on adventures" likes to eat their ice cream vanilla with no toppings on it whatsoever.

>>150794231
They have episodes dedicated to Ginko's past, there's a consistent theme and a defined atmosphere that make Mushishi very cohesive. Dandy is Genius Party brought to television. Flip Flappers is Genius Party but stuck with an underlying overarching story that inevitably gets pushed to the forefront in the end.

>>150794478
Yurifag here, I've been watching it since the first episode was released, I don't know where you came from with this conspiracy theory

>>150793917
You sound like an offended asian parent.

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>>150792690
>Final PI trip explains Cocona's past and fixes it just like Iro-chan
FUCK
this is going to happen as a reset
Iro's episode was foreshadowing
Screenshot this

>>150794149
I'd disagree. In many ways Dandy was the last truly good television anime

>>150794276
I know right, there's not a single ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER in Flip Flappers and hardly anyone ever tells people to believe in themselves, I give it 2/10 EPIC WINS.

>>150794395
>alternate universe WWII with witches
>not interesting
okay m80

>>150794478
It was a yuri anime at first for me an then around episode 7 started going to shit. The last thing I ever wanted was Madoka and melodrama.

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>>150793011
>YoI is selling more than FF
>YoI is better than FF
Kill yourself

>>150793917
Her mother just possessed her. Her grandmother was an evil robot that met her end after her mother possessed her. Her father has been there for her all along, trying to bring the family back together.

>>150794478
I think Flip Flappers is the perfect example of "animation isn't everything".

>>150794571
That's just how /a/ is like. You don't like something? Better blame it on some group and make it seem like 'they' are out to ruin things for you. Oh, and of course you got make it such that those group you don't like actually don't like that thing at all. Just idiots falling for some shadowy bait, no way people willingly enjoy a thing you don't enjoy, not possible.

Just roll with it.

>>150794477
>>150794620
>"lets change the names of countries and throw in a witch"
>"ZOMG MASTER WORLD DESIGN"
Izetta is mediocre at best. Don't delude yourself.

>>150793499
You're dumb

>>150794620
>thing + other thing
>inherently interesting

Elevator pitches mean nothing, and even if you think they do you just need to watch Izetta to be proven wrong.

>>150794693
You just can't possibly comprehend the deep artistic themes of yuri on ice. You may say that the characters are flat and the plot is boring, but thats only because you are too dumb to realize its themes of sexuality and growth. Yuri on Ice is the next eva- you're just too bitter or stupid to realize it.

>>150794709
>Her father has been there for her all along, trying to bring the family back together.
All the information we have thus far is that Cocona only met Salt recently. She's spent most of her chilhood raised by a robot.

Why does /a/ hate everything that becomes popular?

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>tfw "if Papika and Cocona fight one more time...!"
I'm sorry but this series is obnoxious, is not fun, is not interesting, is not entertaining, it looks "good", but the characters and everything about the story is simply obnoxious, if I can even call it a "story".

>>150794821
Aren't they like adults? I think it's a bit too late to discover about maturity and their sexuality

>>150794895
/a/ stands for hipst/a/rs.

>>150794821
>themes of sexuality
Yes because every gay man is like Yuri and turns gay on the spot because of fucking PORK CUTLET BOWLS

>>150794821
This. YoI is a deconstruction of the ethnographic and patriarchal paradigm

>>150794895
>/a/
Judging by this thread, It just seems like a bunch of fujoshits and butthurt retards who don't understand the plot.

>>150794936
But Anon, don't you know that if you do a +10 to the age field in an anime cast it means that the show is automatically mature?

>>150794895
The funny thing is FLFL is not popular outside here so you'd be kicking a dead dog

>>150794895
>circlejerks on /a/
>popular
I think you might have a misconception on the matter anon.

>>150794992
Careful, /a/ is also insistent that nothing outside of /a/ exists and if it does it doesn't matter. Because as we know, anime shows just randomly appear on the internet.

>>150794950
It may seem like it has no plot, but that's because the plot is deeply rooted in symbolism. I'm a literature major, I would know.

>>150794821
You just can't possibly comprehend the deep artistic themes of flip flappers. You may say that the characters are flat and the plot is boring, but thats only because you are too dumb to realize its themes of sexuality and growth. flip flappers is the next eva- you're just too bitter or stupid to realize it.

I haven't seen anything in YoI so this might actually be what you're going for
But it's true anyway
If you need expository dialogue and a super linear plot to appreciate Flip Flappers, you are literally retarded. The visual direction is enough to be entertaining, but the subtleties in the relationship between Cocona and Papika as well as the implications that the story goes deeper than what's shown on screen, make Flip Flappers the AOTS

>>150794895
In what universe is Flip Flappers popular? Because it's certainly not this one.

I would also like to nuke whatever universe it is popular in for their supremely bad taste.

>>150795044
Correction:
I don't actually think FF is the next eva
There will never be a next eva
but FF is good

>>150794947
Its not stupid- you just don't understand the depth of the metaphor.

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>>150795111

shit thread

>>150795124
There's no metaphor! Yuri literally turns gay because he's fighting for "love". His love for skating? No. His love of Viktor? No. His love of pork cutlet bowls. YOI is okay, but Yuri as a character is so stupid.

>>150795220
I thought that as a frequent reader of FF threads I would have seen my fair share of dense motherfuckers that wouldn't recognize a metaphor if it punched them in the mouth, but not getting YoI definitely takes the cake.

>>150795044
It was a joke, and I actually do like Flip Flappers more than Yuri on Ice. I just think people like to exaggerate how good it is and make some pretty shit comparisons. Almost everything in Flip Flappers is better executed. (Except that episode 10 twist though. Yuri on Ice's was far better planned and executed, funnily enough but thats mostly because YoI has a tight narrative.)

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>>150794603
>Mimi is completed and enters her daughter's deep PI after a lengthy transforming KKK battle
>fixes most of the assumed problems
>it ends with another day at school, with Yayaka and Cocona acting as though nothing strange happened, Cocona has her parents waiting at home
>ends with the teacher introducing Papika as the new transfer student, explicitly or implied before seguing to the ED

>>150795325
Says the anon who can't understand flip flappers

>>150795325
What's the metaphor? Yuri using pork cutlet bowls as his love for Viktor?

>>150795325
>"I'm a pork cutlet bowl that seduces men"
Why could this possibly mean?

>>150795382
There was no twist in YoI and its narrative can only be called "tight" if you ignore that they spent most of episodes 4-9 on random skaters of the week and their random gimmick.

>>150795353
I don't like this.

>>150795353
No, please. I was counting on that scene for them to come back together again.

>>150795443
Yuuri is the pork cutlet bowl, you fool!

>>150794895
4chan is, and always will be, full of contrarian shitposters.

>>150795382
Well I'm glad I caught on
Episode 10's twist felt a little forced.
I feel like learning about Cocona's troubled past will be interesting but the snowball effect is a thing.
Really all I want is for there not to be a shitty reset ending because then everyone who hates FF will win

>>150795489
That's even more stupid!

>>150795474
Oh did you see the end of episode 10 coming? And how it recontextualized the entire series and made nearly every character's motivations clearer? Very clever. You must be far too intellectual for this show.

What's the twist in YoI? I'm actually curious

>>150794895
FliFla isn't really popular outside of this board, though. But to answer your question, it's basic hipster mentality. See how it's almost a crime these days to say that you like OPM or AoT (OPM less so than AoT though, I think) even though in both cases, mangafags would sperg about it non stop before the anime aired.

>>150795538

>Two gays are really gay for each other
>Nothing happens for 6 episodes
>THE TWIST IS THAT THEY'RE STILL GAY FOR EACH OTHER!!!!1

>>150795541
All the skaters are homosexuals

>>150795570
Is that Flip Flappers?

>>150794478

I'm not completely caught up, but the yuri bit seems odd. It feels more like selfest than yuri (incredibly clingy and knew something about her when searching for her in the first episode). They are opposites of each other (personality, colouring), split apart somehow (dunno if the whole thing is in her head). But in-general, the technology makes no sense, very few draw attention to it, architecture is odd with bits of past/future that doesn't below in nipland, cliche dead/MIA parents, MC 'is hollow' and 'just trying to stay on track and obey' in the beginning. I think most of the personality issues during the trippy dreamland has been straight forward, still can't see the goal or where this series is actually going yet, at episode 7.

I can buy the grandmother being robot because she always did the same shit and never complained, she's just that weird always there doing the same thing constant.

>>150795541
They're actually gay and are gonna get married + Yuuri was black out drunk pole dancing, hitting on Victor and asking him to be his coach after the previous GPF before the start of the show

>>150795560
I think the hate is less immediate simply because the people who are shitposting about FliFla are deepfags and /u/
If this were a shounen all of /a/ would hate it by now

>>150795541
Basically the main character met a lot of the side characters beforehand while shitfaced and a lot of character interactions make sense now. How no one picked up on it (including myself) is mind boggling look at honestly. It also ties really nicely with one of the ongoing stories of the show (the Eros metanarrative). Its not dramatic, and was revealed through the ED of all places, but it was really well done.

This thread is gay

>>150795587
Huh? Are they competing for a gold laced dildo or something?

>>150795692
They're competing to be the best gay show of the season, against Hibike, Flip Flappers, and all of anime in general

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>>150791333
ninjin no gurasse (glazed carrot)

>>150795570
That is ... not the twist I was referring to. I mean that was even a twist. Yuuri practically proposed to him at the end of episode 9. It was only surprising because they actually did it.

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>>150795634
>the technology makes no sense

lol holy shit you actually made me edit that other bait macro, good fucking job

>>150795673
It also means that Yuri on Ice of all shows has a fucking amnesia plot device now. Also no shit these people know each other, they're the world class in a fairly insular sport.

>>150789244

This. Pure lesbian romance doesn't sell. yuri bait, even making the entire cast pseudo gay does. The moment it becomes relationship drama and not played for laughs, it stops selling. At least the fujo market it often outright looking for that kind of thing, but still there's dozens of fujo-bait series and they sell well or better than the yuri-bait.

Just not enough rabid manchildren otaku interested in legitimate lesbian relationship drama.

>>150795634
The two flashbacks discredit that theory imo but before they happened I was definitely expecting it might go that way.

>>150795735
/a/ told me Hibike is the straightest anime in existence so please remove it from there

>>150795474
I still don't know how anyone can defend episodes' 4-9 generic sports structure or the recapping or the half-assed monologues or the cheap characterization or the terrible animation chops. I liked episode 10's ending too but not enough to make up for the travesty that's taken up most of this anime's runtime.

>>150795769
Well of course they knew each other (that one of the reasons no one caught on)... but it was just well done. Chris, Michele, Sara, Yurio and even Victors interactions with Yuuri now make a lot more sense. I don't want to have to keep defending this fucking show, but compared to Flip Flappers whose twist added almost nothing, I think its better. (Now Flip Flappers makes up for it in a lot of other areas, so I'm not saying the YoI is better, it just did one thing better in my opinion)

>>150787616
How did a flip flapper thread become a yuri and yaoi thread? Hell you people see romance and boogeymen all over the place.

>>150795769

What pasta is this you speak of. Haven't been browsing, probably shouldn't because spoilers.

dostpolderstraat zpia Jesus fucking Christ what's with captcha today.

>>150795963
/u/fags and fujos ruin everything they touch.

>>150795963
This thread is shit from the start. Find the other thread.

>>150794898
Lesbians are terrible. FF just reproving it

>>150795963
That's what happens with an OP like that.

>>150795963
Because this thread is asking about why the Japanese are not interested enough in Flip Flappers to want to buy it a lot or produce tons of fanart. Then people brought up Yuri On Ice as a counterpoint which is so popular that it has reached international fame.
Flip Flappers is considered a yuri show, and Yuri On Ice is a yaoi-show, which means that the discussion turned to yuri and yaoi.

Again.

>>150795963
Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona Cocona
When the deuteragonist is calling the main character's name 20x an episode at some point it starts to seem a little romantic.

>>150795898
4, 7 and 9 were fine. 6 and 8 were rough though.

>>150795775
Why would that be? It seems like if you want to see it teased at, it would be just as nice to see it play out.

Is it because a relationship necessarily entails messy drama in Japanese media?

>>150795809
Hibike fell behind when Reina came from touching Taki-sensei's firm male hands
So sure thing buddy

>>150795925
Well YMMV, but for the record what happened in YoI just doesn't register as a plot twist to me, even though I liked it. I guess I was just never wondering why people behaved like they did, so the revelation didn't get more than a "oh, that's cute I guess" out of me.

It also doesn't really reframe Victor's sudden fascination with Yuuri much, which is the crux of the show. It's still "I decided to become a coach on a whim", even though the root cause for that whim is now slightly different. People are acting like shitfaced antics are somehow the most profound declaration of love ever.

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>>150788999
STOP WITH THE CONDIMENTS, FUCK

>>150796037
This thread is not a circlejerk from the start* Find our safe space*

>>150796250
It wasn't necessarily that it revealed Victors motivations. (I think they were pretty obvious beforehand. Hes an aging genius who had skating his entire life and soon won't anymore. Yuuri was interesting and something to fillt he void.) It's nothing deep like that. Its just subtle character interactions make a lot more sense now, which is something I appreciate a lot. Everything was obviously written with this twist in mind and still no one saw it coming. Thats all. I just thought it was well executed.

>>150795898
The main problem for me isn't that it turned into a sports show, even if it would have been better if they hadn't bothered. It's more that they chose a sport that is inherently not very interesting when animated, there's just inherently so little tension in how these events are scored - I know it's different in reality, but you're not competing with reality here, you're competing with other sports shows that can always make direct head-to-head competition as tight as possible. And they didn't find a good way to make the performances themselves interesting either, they don't have the money to let them speak for themselves and just explaining the emotions in voiceover is beyond laughable.

>>150796395
nah, this thread is pretty dogshit.

>>150796153
With those episodes, every single one of Yuri's performances begin to blur together. We have dozens of characters being introduced with not enough time to care about any of them. Episode 10 suffers from abused narration because the writers couldn't think of a way to bring Victor to the level of depth and standing needed for the finale. It's a very cheap tactic.

>>150796481
The Witch was funny though.

>>150796641
Yeah, I admit a few of them were nice little comedy segments. But still too few to be worth it.

What are they saying about it on 2ch and Futabu?

>>150796621
If you thought they were boring, I completely understand- sometimes an anime doesn't work for you. I actually like the humor in YoI so I enjoyed a lot of the characters. Victor/Yuuri also hold the show together for me, so if you're not into their interactions (espeically since Yuuris skating is basically a measure of their relationship), I can definately see why you'd hate those episodes. Different strokes for different folks.

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The only reason people are suddenly coming out of the woodwork and calling the show shit is directly the result of the latest episodes instilling despair in the retarded yurifags who just wanted every episode to be be nothing but buildup for lesbian sex in the final episode. Now that their hopes have been shattered they have nothing left to do but shitpost out of frustration
You can't prove me wrong, this is fact.

>>150796752
The ones who seem to have actually picked it up loved it, from what I've heard.

>>150796769
I think the Vic/Yuri relationship is the reason anyone likes this show. That's why it's such a bummer when they spend more than half the show slowly spelling out what motivates other characters that don't matter to their relationship at all.

>>150796621
>every single one of Yuri's performances begin to blur together

Egregious footage reuse doesn't help with that either.

>>150796156

No clue honestly, but that at least seems to be the sales trend in anime form at least. Manga is the same I guess, the lesbian romance are slow monthlies or quarterlies and don't seem to reach the 60chapter mark (5 year run) often.

>>150796797
this

>>150796797
Will they even be happy if there is a 100% direct yuri end?

>>150796797
How did the /u/ threads react to episode 10?

>>150796844
I didnt mind 6 and 7 skating sequences because I loved the new characters. I didn't like Russia nearly as much. 9 pretty much focused on the characters that I did like so it was also fine for me. The GPF also has some of the best characters bar JJ so I'm not worried.

>>150788999

>she didn't stop

>>150796621
To be fair, most of Victors narration was actually just recap before the GPF.

>>150796797
What the fuck are you evem going on about

>this show being popular on /a/ is a yurifag conspiracy
>people shitting on the show is a yurifag conspiracy

>>150796864
No because then sales would drop.

>>150797421
>then sales would drop.

What sales?

>>150796797
Lesbian sex at the end is still possible tho

>>150795538
Hibike d idid better to be honest.

>>150791431
>>150789180
>>150789131
You're the only three people I've ever see who said that webm was appetizing.

>>150797690
What's the story behind it? Is that a joke?

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>>150797677
I disagree but I can see the argument.

>>150797709
I don't know the exact story, but small sandwich shops/delis sometimes experiment with foods like dehydrated noodles so as to appeal to college students. That was an experiment that should have never gotten past the idea stage, but because small scale delis like that are typically owned and operated by a small number of people who may not necessarily be too smart, they just went with it and a few unlucky college students had to eat that disgusting crap.

>>150796882
Those degenerates love age_gap yuri, so they are euphoric.

>>150797823
Surely they test shit like this before unleashing it on others....

I mean, there are a lot of really paradoxical foods that are fucking great together, but for some reason I just can't imagine this working. It would get so fucking soggy.

>>150797823
Why.

How.

Why did they film it?

>>150787616
>completely ignored
They were not completely ignored.

>>150787616
More than half of the show was mediocre and non-sensical, when it finally got good it was too late

It's the AOTS and an underappreciated gem, despite me having a lot of issues with it (lack of details - like just a copypasta of wiki article on the monitor, basic continuity errors, crude/clunky direction, etc.). Other anime this season are worthless flicks.

>>150799066
AOTS and AOTY contender is Hibke, though, specially after this last episode.

>>150799146
Hibike is boring trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Kg7mkBB5U

>>150798471
For fun.

>>150799327
You also on the r/a/dio thread or what?

>>150792830
I don't know how it was ever popular. You need an account for most things, it's slow as shit too.

Twitter is public and easy to search , you'd get a lot more traffic.

>>150796144
>romantic
You mean autistic

>>150796797
>Poptepipic
Oh you're only some retard
Opinion discarded then

Japs just saw it for what it was, a pile of uninteresting, unappealing garbage.
The easily impressionable western audience got dazzled by the vibrant colors and OH GOD LOOK AT THOSE EXTRA FRAMES (which try to make up for the plot and distract the spectators from the lack thereof) but the Japanese don't buy it anymore. They know better.