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>tfw the "not even top 3 this season" actually became real
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>>150690735
>Tfw retards like you exist
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Poor sad Yuyu.
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>>150690735
Even if this was true, it would hardly be a bad thing. This season is pretty fantastic.
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Post more webms
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>>150690723
>Cocona x Papika is officially age-gap yuri

Dropped.
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This is your Papika for tonight.
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>>150690723
That picture is going to be the "Kayo holding a baby" of the season isn't it?
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What's her endgame? Will she switch sides? Or stay a puppet?
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>>150690803
Not gonna lie.

Mom Papika is sexier than JC Papika.
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was it always spelt papica?
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>>150690811
She's the final boss.
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>>150690761
Why is Yuyu's head so fucking big
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Is it time for despair yet?
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Guys, I figured it out! The shards are related to Mimi somehow!
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>>150690827
no, the Crunchyroll subs are official.
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>>150690833
because it's closer to the screen
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>>150690845
You got your replies in the other thread.
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>>150690757
>cancerous manchild using ad hominem because someone thinks different than him
Colour me surprised.
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>>150690735
Funny how one shitty episodes pollutes the whole show.
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So is Coconas mum a powerup?
Does it end like asuka in end of evangelion?
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>flashback instead of PI
Dropped.
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>>150690827
Probably just CG error
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>>150690899
3 now
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>>150690723
>Papikana walking in on Salt fucking Mimi.
>Goes berserk and destroy things before she vanished.
>Became leader of KKK.
>Papika is her clone experiment, hence being in child form.
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Goddamn, Papika's gonna grow up to be handsome.
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>>150690803
On a scale of yes to no... Yes...
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>>150690836
Well that's perfectly fine with me. As someone who (still) admires this show for the ambition it's displayed and the role it's filled in the season, I'm glad there are people who aren't disappointed in it. I personally just wanted something different, but what we have isn't BAD, of course.
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>>150690932
I liked the robot and YYK showdown desu.
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To make up for last time I decided to track pretty much everything

26 Coconuts, 5 Paprikas, 5 Paprikanas, 20 Mimis, 12 Yayakas, 9 Salts.
Wow, that's a lot.

Totals:
>C: 205+1(Ep9 no sound)+3(Ep2 preview) = 209
>P: 118+5(Papikana) = 123

See you all next week.
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Literally me.
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>>150690901
Her mother's possessing her body, it's just that her mother's full of innate explosive amorphous powers.
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>>150690959
Based anon.
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Im 100% sure that all the people shitposting now are buttflustered /u/fags

It's almost as sad as it is hilarius
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>>150690987
Literally /a/.
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>>150690874
>using cancerous to describe someone whilst also calling them a child
Color me hypocrisy
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>>150690803
Can we get the succubus one back?
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>>150690761
I like that they showed that the twins do actually care about each other.
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>>150690959
Gods work anon
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>>150691007
Basically.

I'm also laughing at how everything people are complaining about is stupid shit that was already explained and/or foreshadowed.

Anyone saying Cocona was "stupid" is fucking stupid themselves, holy shit.
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>>150690997
Every teddy bear represents a child that didn't return from that room.
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>>150690997
>7 bears
The children who didn't make it?
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There's no fucking way that with the way this show was designed it could satisfy everyone by the end. It's brought people on board for literally all kinds of reasons throughout by doing different types of episodes and genres. Some people liked Mad Max, others for the spooky episode, and others due to the alzheimer's episode. And then of course you have the yuri fanbase.

To say nothing of my own opinion towards it or even the episode's quality, there should have been no doubt that once FliFla started to tip its hand that it would tear apart some portions of the fanbase.

It really wasn't a bad episode though.
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>>150690735
This

1. Yuri on Ice
2. Ping Pong Girls
3. Hibike
4. Fune wo Amu
5. 3-gatsu

How can it even compete?
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>>150691007
I was under the impression that all /u/ posting was just ironic memeing. These people weren't really expecting yuri from this were they?
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>>150691055
No, they're just bears.
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Do people actually think this episode was bad?
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>>150690843
why is everyone thinking this is bad?
Mimi probably just gave her to ability to henshin in the real world, Cocona feels protected now and they will have some talks with everyone.
I actually think this scene was pretty cute
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>>150690874
>ad hominem
>anonymous image board
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>>150691077
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I wanted more for Cocona than becoming a vessel for her spooky mom.
Episode 10 was disappointing.
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>>150691042
Shit son, that actually makes some sense.
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>>150690957
This.
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>>150691077
>1. Yuri on Ice
Opinion discarded.
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>>150691095
Secret
Orphan
Research
Facility
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>>150691052
>It's just 2 butthurt kids trying to convince people that this is a bad show cause "MUH YURI"
Kek
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>>150691055
>every time you kill someone, we'll give you a teddy bear
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>>150691080
No /u/ poster are indeed real, and they are as delusional as we meme about.
There is reason for everything
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>>150691077
>watching faggots on ice
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>>150691135
You act like this was suprising
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>>>/wsg/1434434 (You)
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1481205995641.webm
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>>150691095
They're mad that it's not turning out how they wanted I guess.

The only thing I'll criticize about this episode was that it was a bit disjointed with lots and lots of scenes happening, but it was still pretty good.
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>>150691160
That's beary nice of them.
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Based Salt bringing the PURE boy-girl love.
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>>150691095
Not bad on its own, just mediocre. Every other episode was better.
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>>150691186
it's really one of the most overdone twists, right up there with "NINGEN DA"
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>>150691188
Real talk.

What the fuck did this scene even mean?
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>>150691036
B-B-B-BUT WHY DIDN'T COCONA JUST ASK THEM?!
As if Papika would remember at the time and Salt would have actually told her

Retards the lot of them
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So worst show of the season finally confirmed. Behind all the pretentious backgrounds and shit writing all this yuribait shitshow is is a shallow ripoff of classic anime tropes thrown in a blender and turned to mush.

Plotless garbage. None of the characters have any depth or motivation, the setting is inconsistent, and the """""story""""" has no idea what it's doing. I hope all you people praising it for muh show don't tell are eating your fucking pretentious words.
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>>150691227
Nothing, we wait for next episode.
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>>150691213
>pure
>without lilies
That's not how symbolism works you little fag.
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>>150691213
Based Papikana stealing that love
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>>150691188
The way this scene led into the ED was amazing.
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>>150691223
This twist is incredibly mild.
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>>150691251
Go back to your faggots on ice thread.
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>>150691042
Well, Mimi was the 33rd something, and Papikana was Candidate 45.
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>>150691251
I just want to quote this to show people what an actual shitpost looks like, amid all the actual criticisms about the latest episode and its developments.

Otherwise, carry on.
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>>150691052
>the majority of people that aren't shiposters or retards pick the right answers
Color my surprise
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That was probably the stupidest part, how couldn't she know about a fucking stone inside her leg? And why was YYK instructed to watch over Cocona, instead of just cutting it out as she was a little, defenseless child?
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>>150691251
This but unironically
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>>150691227
Look at this smile.
People seem to think that Mimi is now posessing her or some shit, but i'm pretty sure she will just support Cocona with her PI magic.
Mimi doesn't seem to be a bad person or have any egoistic goal, she probably just wants to save her former friends and lover with her daughter
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>>150691318
They probably needed it to awake somehow
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>>150691304
>>150691285
>st-stop attacking my yuri!!!! it'll happen this time!!!!! it's a good show!

Sad. This show deserves to bomb and only be remembered for its failures, like the degenerate Yuri Kuma.
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>>150691318
she's the VESSEL she has to stay alive to awaken the Mimi for make happen ridiculous anime finale
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>>150690735
Flip flappers quite easily AOTS and this was another great episode. Funny how you rushed to this thread to post a repeat of your previous post in order to try influence opinions with your shitposting memes.
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>>150690827
No, it's spelled Horo!
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>>150691269
>Papika got NTR'd so hard, having to sit there and watch Salt plow Mimi repeatedly that she had to clone herself/revert her age/whatever the fuck she's doing and try to steal their daughter that looks like her
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>>150691252
>papikana will never play with your balls
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>>150691252
>tits
>on MY loli Papika(na)
Why is this allowed?
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>>150691358
Nobody mentioned yuri.

>degenerate
Wew lad.
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>>150691117
>How would you have done it, anon-kun?
Not him, but if it were me I wouldn't infodump it. I would rather make Papika tell Cocona something like 'deep down inside you already know it' kind of reveal, and then the visual composition is something like jumbled memories and memento (like the flower crown, etc.), which then makes Cocona anxious and runs away herself back to her house. I think it could have been done in a more subtle way and more suiting to the mood of the show, with soft melancholy of the past and so forth.
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>>150691239
Cocona DID ask them. A bunch of times. She asked Papika stuff too.

Papika didn't know shit, Salt and Hidaka gave her weird incomprehensible answers.

It's not like Cocona went along into PI while asking literally nothing.
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This show is not only getting more pathetic by episode but they are also ruining it with shallow references.
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If i absolutely despise the yurishit thats so prevalent, will i hate this show too? The animation looks pretty cool, but i cant stand the stupid girl love bullshit.
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Show has gone pretty much how I expected it, but I still don't care for what's happening.
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>>150691394
The only reason any of you are defending this cancer is your yuri fetish.
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>>150691318
Plant Loli mentioned it to her too way back in episode three.
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>>150691394
Stop replying to shitposters anon
>Wew lad.
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>>150691413
>stupid girl love bullshit
No one in this show is gay, they're just friends.
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>>150690959
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>>150691342
>but i'm pretty sure she will just support Cocona with her PI magic.
Uh, she was speaking through Cocona. It was both her and Cocona's voices.
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>>150691318
Shitposting aside, I really thought she knew that she had an amorphous inside her.
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>>150691128
>most popular sports anime in the West.
>most popular male x male anime ever.
>most popular TV anime of 2016
>top 3 best selling shows of the year.
>watched by celebrities, Olympic skaters and referenced in South Park
Flip Flappers is just another forgettable convoluted "artsy" anime like Kyousou Giga and Kaiba. It will not be relevant, not in the mainstream, not in the sakuga crowd, not in the LGBT crowd, not anywhere. No one will remember it in 3 months
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>>150691413
>not a new IP
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>>150691413
Yes, you will hate it.
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>>150691413
Watch it, it's entertaining and there is no yuri.
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>>150691413
If the mere thought of two girls being more than friends triggers you then don't bother. We have enough shitposters and trolls already.
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>>150691279
It’s not even a twist, like pretty much everything in Flip Flappers it has been foreshadowed to the point of the actual twist then "falling flat" if you care about a ride of TWEEESTS. (I just think it’s a well written story)
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>>150691416
Except this time it's gonna be a Mimi / Papika fight, and Papika will get Cocona out the same way she did it with the mask in episode three.
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>>150691251
This but ironically
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>>150691461
>No one will remember it in 3 months
I will.
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>>150691461
This is really good bait. Like I actually have to give you credit for this, you've done a fantastic job. I hope you get the (You)s you deserve.
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>>150691402
Also, it's almost as if Cocona has been show and stated to be a big softie who doesn't assume the worst.
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>>150691461
>referenced in South Park

Wait, what?
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>>150691223
It isn't even that relevant, i wouldn't even call it a twist since it was pretty much obvious from episode 1. If they acted like this is a huge mystery and reveal it like this, i would be pissed too
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Maximum shitposting overdrive. Same shit as before different memes.
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Now that the dust has finally settled can we all agree COCONA was a MISTAKE?
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>>150691458
Why? She knew she had a scar. If you have a scar, would you expect something to be inside of it?
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I am half-jokingly upset that the show has a character with tits now though.
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>Papika is a lesbian Fuyutsuki
I'm fine with it, but it reminded me of that game where he dresses up Shinji as Yui.
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>>150691023
Hit hard home, huh?
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Reminder that Cocona is a cross-dressing boy.
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>>150691521
Cocona and her reaction is fine. Papika just bores me now.
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>>150691499
Last night's episode I think
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>>150691223
Is it even a twist if we all assumed from the start Papika had to be lab grown?
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>>150691521
This whole abortion of an anime was a mistake. I'd never hire any of the staff again.
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Who's my father then?
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>>150691514
People speculated about characters growing up in labs from the beginning.
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Is Papikana a cuckold? It seems pretty lame that you'd lose the Mimibowl so badly that you have to try and seduce her daughter.
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>>150691573
Buu-chan.
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>>150691564
Interesting to know some Western anime producers are watching Japanese ones
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>>150691573
Sayuri's boyfriend.
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>>150691573
Why is Salt so shit? Sending his daughter to potential death?
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>>150691413
if you have ever watch Precure or Madoka you would know what to expect form the show
There are alwasy gonna be people digging to deep into the feelings of little girls.

Yes the word love gets thrown around ambiguously just like in every mahou shojo.
Girls in general are good at that stuff
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>>150691135
Two of them, actually.
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>>150691536
Yeah, thinking about made me realize that there is no reason other than we know it from episode 1 onwards. This whole scene didn't come off as a twist because we already speculated too hard and saw it coming.
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>>150691573
We are.
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I enjoy this show, with some glaring issues with it however. Ever since episode 1, I've always been suspicious of this show's execution. It's when it often relies on immediate power-ups like in episode 1 that, while makes sense overall, feels very crude and like a cheap shortcut to progress the plot. Episode 2 did that too. Fast forward to the latest episode, it's already clear that this show is yet another example of a wasted potential of original anime, because of compromising (not going all the way in sheer inventiveness) and general lack of talent/experience.

The only reason why people think this show is deeper and more poignant than what it really is, is because the background art is made by Studio Pablo. Everything else either lacked polish or cliched. I gave it the benefit of the doubt when it seemingly tried to make fun of the collective consciousness, by bringing those cliched tropes to exaggeration, but more and more I think it's just because they couldn't come up with something original themselves. It's apparent when the tiny bits lacked details. They only namedrop Uexkull but showed it in detail, either explicitly or through visual easter eggs (like, if you read the infos on their monitor, etc.). That's when I know the show is not really well-thought out as people make it out to be. Sure, it's more than your average generic LN shit, but certainly not - enough -.
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>>150691452
God lovers on suicide watch
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>>150691594
>Is Papikana a cuckold?
No anon, it was just ADOLESCENCE
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So this explains how Papika started to remember, then. When she gave Cocona a flower crown it triggered her memories.
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>>150691607
Yuri on Ice is more mainstream than you think. One of the skaters referenced in the anime tweeted about it too.
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>>150691365
>she has to stay alive

Cocona was at the hospital, they were able to cut it out with some simple excuses like "Your leg is sick, we need to operate it". She wouldn't even know what happened to her.
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>>150691564
>>150691607
Trey Parker is a known weeb. I wouldn't be surprised if he's been on /a/ before.
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>>150691636
(you)

The shitposting in this thread is unreal.
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>>150691636
Nice shitpost.
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>>150691107
Reminder that this only confirms that the most general-like threads are pure cancer.
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>>150691655
>get her memories back
>still acts like a retard
Why is this?
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>that ending
We Akira now?
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>>150691452
Mimi and Cocona about to reach 0 impedance.
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>>150691472
I dont know, it kind of triggers me. I just really hated (and i can already see my flame coming) hibike. I think its just the forced drama that pisses me off. From a completely general observation flipflap kinda seemed like girls going on rad adventures, which would be cool.
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>>150691251
Excuse me sir, it seems that you've got lost in your way to the Hibike thread, allow to guide to the exit
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>>150691696
She was always a retard
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>>150691661
Is that really surprising? One of the famous skaters worked on choreography of it right?
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>>150691369
Watch more anime, newfag.
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>>150691342
Cocona got knocked unconscious when Mimi awoke.
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>>150691577
That's what i said.
If Papika, the girl that lives with some science organisation and doesn't seem to have friends or school education wasn't obvious enough i can't see how people saw the twins and thought "wow, i bet their parents are waiting at home"
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>>150691681
Stop dxcusing valid criticism as shitposting. This episode sucked. This whole anime is pretentious schlock. Go back to tumblr and cry if you disagree, retard.
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>>150691695
Thread was fine before cancer like you came in
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>Carpet
>wallpaper
>carpet
>wallpaper
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>>150691696
If it really was a
Secret
Orphan
Research Facility
it's possible that she really was a feral child and doesn't know how to act normal. It could also be why she sleeps naked, because she never wore clothes until she was around other people.
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>>150691486
Mitsuketta!
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>>150691696
Like Salt said, in case you somehow couldn't figure it out yourself.

She was always that way.
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>>150691706
That ending highhandedly made me want to watch Akira.
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>>150691745
Seen more anime than you have even heard of kiddo.
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>>150691737
I have to say, if I did choreography work on Yuri on Ice I would be pretty fucking disappointed by the final result.
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>>150691631
I mean, plant loli did tell her she was going to take her fragment while reaching up her thigh and touching her scar. She should've figured it out there, at least.
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>>150691461
>Flip Flappers is just another forgettable convoluted "artsy" anime

You say that like its a bad thing. As if being mentioned is south park or watched by olympic skaters are a way to determine the quality of a show.
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>>150691461
>>150691564
How to easily know when something is terrible with an awful fanbase.
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>>150691461
This bait is of fine quality. Recommended for master baiters.
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>>150691696
Once a retard, always a retard.
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>>150691795
Tits are too big
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>>150691745
What's your AOTS?
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>>150691613
He probably had FF set up the way it was specifically to keep his daughter out of it. Papika wasn't supposed to go out and find a girl on her own, but eventually Salt had to accept that only one girl out there could get to PI.
Assuming he knew she was in the real world. Its also possible he had no idea Cocona was around.
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>>150691795
Things are forgettable because they're generic, uninspired and/or bland. This is indeed a bad thing.
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>>150691754
Wow, mi buzzword-o-metter bursted in the first sentence
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>Sayuri gave her flowers
>Cocona's all afraid and confused
FUCKING TWINS GET OFF MY HAREM
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Reminder that once again, deep, edgy and suffering will win the day. It's the truth of the world, after all. Iyashikei, comfy, and fluffy are just petty distractions unfitting for a great show such as this.

DEEP 1 : 0 Comfy (Episode 10, ongoing)
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>>150691110
but now that Cocona's officially hit rock bottom and retreated within herself, her climb back up will be that much more epic
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>>150691720
The relationship builds up over like 8 episodes and a dozen meta reasons in addition to common sense point towards more than friends stuff going on.

But it does also have girls going on some rad as fuck adventures.
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>>150691825
Seems like Papika 1 has bigger tits than Papika 2
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What a shit episode.
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>>150691759
>Carrpet
>Mans
>Womens
>Copypaste wikipedia article
No wonder they can't collect enough fragments.
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Friendly reminder that Cocona ruined the only genuine friend she ever had in her life.
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>>150691827
Not him but mine's Stella no Mahou now. It was FF until this episode, but now FF has tits.
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>>150691461
Nice, this means that YOI is as good as Attack on Titan, SAO or Mirai Nikki......but gayer.
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>>150691859
>Sayuri gave her flowers
She also stood up to keep her in the base. I thought it was cute.
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>>150691866
But edgy and suffering shows, 9 times out of 10, end with human willpower and hope winning in the end.
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Why is Cocona so shit? She ruined the whole episode!
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>>150691866
>deep, edgy and suffering will win the day
K-On and Love Live begs to differ.
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I don't think it was bad. But it was just bland. And one episode doesn't automatically invalidate an entire show at once, especially since there are three episodes to go. These threads just go to show that any opinion, good or bad, will be exaggerated to hell and back so that a show must either be AOTY or worst of the season.
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>>150691907
I didn't forget. It really was a terrible thing since memories make a person.
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How old is Papika?
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I JUST WANT ONE FLIFLA THREAD WITHOUT IRONIC YURI SHITPOSTING

IS TOO MUCH TO ASK?
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Who could the leader of KKK be?
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>>150691940
Cocona ruined the whole anime since episode 1. If this was just Papika's Bizzarre Adventure it would have been fine.
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>be a cute young girl
>live with a loveable grandma
>go to school
>have a cute childhood friend
>get to meet a girl who gets really attached to you
>go on adventures with the girl, have fun, get into harsh moments, but still coming out with good feelings
>get really attached to the girl and start having a sort of complicity

>the girl was with you because she's obsessed with her former partner
>PI ends up being a tremendously powerful weapon
>KKK attacks and FliFla goes to hell
>childhood friend happens to have gotten close just for monitoring because of amorphous
>grandma was an enemy robot all along

Poor girl.
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Post your face when the next episode starts with 15 years time skip
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>>150691965
Cocona's future boyfriend.
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>>150691941
K-on more or less ends with suffering.
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>>150691965
Salt's dad. This is pretty guaranteed.
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>>150691886
Her current form must be artificial in its perfection
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So is this yuri or not?
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>>150691945
Pretty much this, though I didn't feel it was that bland. It was an alright episode, I just expected better.
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>>150691942
Can you clone memories? Salt said she got her memories back.
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>>150691956
Same age as Salt, late forties.
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>>150692002
It's adolescence.
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>>150691965
>KKK
>not Neo Atlantis

I want newfags to leave
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>>150691941
>implying k-on isn't pretentious edgy shit
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>>150691907
Didn't they fix her past?
I thought they affected reality not just her memory
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So the one leaning against Salt in the OP is Papikana, Papika's creator. I'm willing to bet it's not age-gap shit. She's in the darkness (vengeful?) now while Salt is facing the light. She will be part of the master plan and try to manipulate Papika to let go of Cocona or something, and Cocona will save the day at the end, finding the lost, wet (damaged) Papika and they will live happily ever after.
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>>150691965
Salt's dad
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I'm one of the people who is really antsy about the conclusion. I may be "shitposting" but I think that most of the accusations from both sides are genuine. Probably more genuine than most of the shit that gets posted on this site.

A weird thing I've noticed, is that my experience of the first few episodes changes DRAMATICALLY on repeat viewings. I can't explain what it is-- it's not just knowledge of what's going to happen in the plot, but it's also a greater understanding of who the chatacters actually are, at least in the creators' minds. It's so different-- I'd actually say I enjoy it more than I did originally.

Don't be so sure you're still going to hate this episode after you have all the context, is all I'm saying.
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>>150691942
Probably, and don't forget that dead Cocona is the very first scene.
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>>150692021
You already posted this last week and nobody gave a fuck.
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>>150692036
Papikana = Papika
Mimi liked to call Papikana "Papika" so she adopted the name.
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>>150691461
>Flip Flappers is now compared with Kyousougia and Kaiba
I'm okay with this.
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>>150692005
>Can you clone memories?
I don't think so, but this is anime.
For one, it worked with teh rei.
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>last thread has over 800 replies
>this one already has over 200
Fuck you guys, I'll never be able to catch up like this
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>>150692036
Oh my god you're right. That's papikana.
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Where was this scene from again? I think I missed something
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>>150692078
Me too.
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>>150692104
Episode 11 preview.
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>>150692104
next ep preview
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>>150692036
Pretty sure that's young Salt.
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>>150692036
That's just young Salt. Still not buying the clone shit.
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>>150692036
>>150692094
What the fuck? That's just young Salt. Papikana is Papika's full name.
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>>150692104
Ep11 PV
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>>150692118
>>150692129
>>150692141
I already concluded that previes don't exist.
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>>150691873
Alright, i think ill give it a shot. Thanks friendo
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>>150692039
I'm fairly certain this type of show is much more enjoyable when marathoned rather than watching on a weekly basis, where there's a ton of breathing room and time to speculate about plot twists.

Not saying the episode wasn't uninspired, which is the opinion I share, but nothing it did was particularly fatal to the plot. People are being impulsively negative just because they can.
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>>150692031
>Didn't they fix her past?
But at what cost, anon? She threw away all her paintings which made her unique and became another faceless girl in the crowd.
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>>150692105
>Yuyu is watching you masturbate
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>>150691991
Wasn't there a close up of the grand wizard where we could see his eyes? Seems similar to scenes where we could see salt's eyes
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>>150692164
Wish I could be a faceless girl in the crowd instead of a secluded weirdo.
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>>150692151
Dead beat dads do.
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Literally what the fuck is happening anymore?

This was supposed to be a happy show?

Why must we keep tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down?
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>>150692068
>>150692134
>>150692137
>>150692139

>>150690723
Papikana will grow up to be a smartwoman who becomes enraged once she walks in on Salt/Mimi. She will go crazy and vanish. Papika is her child clone, the one who retains all the purity and innocence of young Papikana, and she and her Cocona will save the day.

I'm using Papikana vs Papika to make a distinction. They're both Papika obviously but one is the real, less innocent one and one is an eternal puppy.
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I love that Salt and company went from a prestigious, well-funded research facility to literally just three people in a shitty warehouse babysitting two kids.
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Eewww Mimi is a hetero?


DROPPED
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>>150692037
How did he react when Mimi got knocked up?
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>>150692078
The best part about shitposters:
>says show is shit
>gets told another show they like is shit
>"b-but it's more popular"
>use the popularity on /a/, Twitter/pixiv
>"t-that just means it's cancer!"
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>>150691251
>>150690735
>"""""story"""""
> garbage
> top 3
I actually quite depressed and hate this episode pretty much after watch, but you guys just baited too hard with your limited trolling words lol.
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>>150692193
Nigger no.
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>>150692200
Mimi is homosexual. Papika is the father.
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>>150692200
Salt is actually a bulldyke futa, anon.
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>>150692175
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>>150691681
>>150691688
Hey it's my honest opinion. Correct me if I'm wrong. Either that, or you people just don't want to admit that all those little bits are just stylization in order to harmonize the visual composition. Since Studio Pablo was so superb, they naturally went along with them, which explained the art shift from the subtle symbolism. It's all teamwork and often spontaneous. It's often like that in collectively-made arts.
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>>150692192
>This was supposed to be a happy show?
What exactly gave you this idea?
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>>150692157
You need the weekly speculah to really digest the show. Then it gets even better on a rewatch.
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>>150692200
>ewwww my parents are hetero!
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>>150692193
>Papikana will grow up to be a smartwoman who becomes enraged once she walks in on Salt/Mimi.
Highly doubt it, considering we saw Papika being there when Mimi disappeared holding Cocona in her arms.
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Whoever turns out to be Cocona's father next week, you know what you have to do with this pic
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>>150692207
>Good work son. Now we can dominate the world using your child and dead wife
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>>150691982
>Poor girl.
"Phew! At least there's Senpai and Uexküll waiting for me!"

>Uexküll was just a monitoring cyborg like grandma
>Iro has already forgotten her, as a matter of the PI alteration
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>>150691461
So people that are at home in ovens watch it.
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>>150692195
This shot reminds of the SEELE operatives from EoE. Much of this episode does, in fact.
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>>150692192
>This was supposed to be a happy show?
Episode 1 already set the tone.
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>>150692157
> I'm fairly certain this type of show is much more enjoyable when marathoned
Yeah, I feel ya. I never understood the hate Kyosougiga gets until I started watching this show as it was airing.

I still would have a hard time trading this /a/ shitposting experience for anything. FLFL AOTD.
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>>150692263
They'd be right to be disgusted. Giving birth to this anon certainly was a horrible mistake.
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>>150692192
>This was supposed to be a happy show?
You've been lied to, anon. But that okay, things will certainly get better from now on.
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>>150692036
No that's obviously Dr Salt and Young Dr Salt.

Young Salt is looking to the darkness to represent Salt's meditation on sad memories from his past. Old Salt looks toward the light to show his hopefulness of achieving his goals, presumably to be reunited with Mimi
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>>150692273
That will be the final straw for her. After that incident Salt will ask for cooperation but she will angrily rejects him and go off on her own.
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>>150691859
>Sayuri gave her flowers
>More begonias
That was bloody hilarious. Just in case anyone thought Yayaka might have a chance due to the Cocopaps drama.
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HANG ON

If Cocona is Mimi's daughter doesn't that mean Papila should also be an adult by the current timeline? Or did Salt fuck....no nevermind.
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Here, have an actual useful poll.

Be honest, I'm actually curious about peoples' opinions this week.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11828289
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Reminder to all you /u/shits watching this plotless tripe that there will be no girls love, as lesbians are traditionally evil and loveless in anime like Homura, who Madoka despised.

This show is just going to make you mad and I'll laugh at you freaks and say I told you so. Scum.
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>>150692286
>and good call on ordering Papikanas in bulk
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>>150692253
Did you ever look at the director’s concept art? He came up with all the visuals, not Pablo.
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>>150692164
>>150692185
This was pretty much the point of episode 7.
Cocona realised that there more then 1 side to each person and only wanting a sepcific one isn't right.
It's clera that senpai would have changed those events herself the way Cocona and Papika did. Wanting someone to suffer because you like them more this way is pretty fucked up
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>>150692193
>Salto, you have become meaner
>And you're still the same
I don't buy the puppy clones idea.
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>>150692200
That's right friend. Mimi got pounded, rammed, filled, plowed, seeded, defiled, boned, ravaged, etc. I bet Papikana watched as it happened too.
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>>>/wsg/1434447
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1481206930823.webm
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>>150691985
>its now a post apocalyptic world ravaged by Coco-Mimi
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>>150692321
Nah, I think it's more likely that, if our current Papika is a clone, the previous one just committed sudoku.
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>>150692375
I don't doubt. I merely want to know if Papika is an immortal loli.
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>>150692292
Called it.
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>>150692340
>plot described as "useful"
Art is absolutely useless, anon.
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>>150692343
>Rampant shitposter is Homuhater.
I guess I should have known but still, didn't know he was still at it.
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>>150692375
>forcing your cuckold fetish everywhere
Stop.
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>>150692164
>Take a retarded girl
>make her normal
>bad

/a/ is literally retarded
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>>150692336
Did you know? If you lose your memories, your body will retain its shape and size until your memories return. And that's why Papika grow boobs in the next episode.
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>>150692379
What are these flashes of light?
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>>>/wsg/1434473
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1481208431254.webm
RIP
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So uhh is anyone going to ignore the fact that Cocona killed her own grandmother?
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>>150692243
>They're all actually fish-men
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>>150692200
It's a bisexual polyamory bullshit. They're libertarian lunatics.
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>>150692340
It was predictable AND clumsy.
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>>150692425
That's not what the taught me in Umineko.
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>>150692421
>senpai pre-episode 6
>retarded
Flap yourself.
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>>150692409
She probably got de-aged in the same accident that whipped her memories.
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>>150692455
>Robit
>Grandmother
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>>150692410
>dat prophecy

Shit's getting real
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>>150692292
This thread can really benefit from having less EVAposters.
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>it's literally just a few idiots shitposting
God I hate /a/.
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As the last yurifag who still believes in Cocona/Papika, I love that it's basically Cocona being jelly af the entire episode.
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>>150692455
DeceivingRobotLivesDon'tMatter
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>>150692455
It was a robot. Nobody cares about robots.
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>>150692379
Nice bait
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>>150692410
I just wanna know WHY when you have something like FliFla, with the story and characters and settings and resources at your disposal, you would opt to rip off one of the most famous anime in history. Wasn't there literally anyone at all in the writers room who was a little more ambitious with the show? It's such a waste.
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>>150692416
Literally everyone dropped Madoka and hates Homura now.
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STILL HASN'T DONE A SINGLE THING

This bitch better deliver.
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>>150692480
Flop off, Flappet.
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I hope she'll like it
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>>150692467
Don't throw big words if you don't know what they mean.
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>>150692340
Honestly I think Episode 10's only real issue is that it's trying to resolve literally everything the show's been foreshadowing up to this point so it feels a bit overwhelming and dense.
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>>150692518
>nips
>not ripping off
>ever
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>>150692418
I'm sorry anon, but Papikana is a total loser. The experience of watching Mimi moan in pleasure as Salt had his way with her must have been so bad that she wiped her own memories.
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>>150692492
>shoddy flashback/exposition episode
>one of the better ones
How?
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>>150692213
I'm somehow disappointed but I don't think it's that bad too. It's just not as subtle as I would have liked, and they really cut corners with the drama and angst, albeit in a cute way (Cocona jumped into the tunnel and Papika went the opposite one).
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>>150692529
She will save the show.
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>>150692410
I honestly called it way before you, you just posted this based on other people's correct prediction. Fuck we even went as far as to say Papi was teh Rei and Yayaka was Asuka, Sayuri = Misato.
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>>150692534
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>>150692518
But don't you know they invented anime so everything copies it.
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Why are the thumbnails not fucking loading.
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>>150692496
Papika has too much baggage with her waifus mom. CocoPapi is dead to me.
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>>150692534
>Coco na
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>>150692379
I'd rather say it's quite enjoyable in this depressing whole episode when you only enjoy this visually.
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>>150692340
specify what you mean by plottwist.
Mimi being Coconas mother and orphan experiments don't count since they were already pretty much confirmed.
Grandma being spy robot/android was predictable but still effective
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>>150692405
I theorize it that way because it gives the KKK more backbone than just >le evil organization who wants to revive a powerful being. Sudoku is also a good possibility.
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>>150692550
Papika never even loved her romantically. Again stop forcing your cuckold fantasies.
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>>150692567
Post your screencap then
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>>150690723
>tfw Papikana is the fucking Jacob in this whole situation.
Yeah, thats right...thats a fucking Twilight reference.
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>>150692534
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Yayaka and Papika teaming up to stop Cocona who's gone full Mimi when
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>>150692529
She rubbed a wall thing.
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>>150692579
>third world problems
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>>150692534
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>>150692616
At least we will get some sweet KKK ass-kicking.
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>>150692529
She's the final boss yo
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>>150692213
>"""""
>lol.

out
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>>150692529
She will seduce Papikana.
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>>150692602
>Cockona sleeve
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>>150692534
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Anybody posting the Kaoruko webm about Reoko being a real-life aged loli? It suits Papika.
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The only way this show can truly end badly for me is if there's no kissu.
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>>150692421
It doesn't even matter in what way they changed her. She's a different person now, so they basically removed Senpai from existence. Because she's not herself anymore.
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I want cuckold fags to LEAVE
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>>150692496
It's a set up for reconcilation and power of love saves it all bullshit. Just pray for the puppy to stay in one piece.
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>>150692691
>expecting a 40 years old woman to kiss the 14 years old daughter of her friend
>expecting any romance at all
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>>150692717
Why do you want Cocona fags to leave?
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>>150692504
>>150692455
We saw a single shot of wrecked robo legs and one arm.
It's not really confirmed that she's that but more important, i don't think she is complete robot.
Since Yuyu we know android body parts exist and they would make a lot of sence on a old lady in a wheelchair, maybe as payment from the KKK.
Making her a complete Robot would be a bit stupid
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What if the memories Papika is seeing are the memories of the Papika who was friends with Mimi and they're being forced onto the current Papika through some crystal (likely placed in that device on her ankle)?
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>>150691782
That scene was the WORST scene in the show by a mile. Absolute garbage plotting. I mean the amorphous twist stuff in 10 not the loli thing
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>>150691377
tobequitehonestfamuliar, thats a pretty Based move...
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>Inb4 Salt was Papikana and Mimi's sperm donor.
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>>150692340
It felt like a more poorly executed episode 7.
At least in episode 7 you could argue that while Hidaka did do that brief infodump, you could defend it because wasn't really one as it pretty much reiterated things that was already mentioned and that he did it humorously.

The problem with this episode ironically, is that Cocona actually got some answers from people he's been trying to get answers from. Yayaka actually tells her what's going on straight to her face, which is a problem because she has been extremely tight-lipped before. Sure, episode 9 happened at all, but still. Yayaka and the twins simply said too much that should have been left unsaid and simply implied. The Papika flashback and the conversation between Cocona and Papika in the tunnel I thought was fine.
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>>150692717
Papika? More like Papicuck.
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>>150692690
Here.
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>>150692343
You worked hard for it, take it:
(You)
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>>150692579
Blame Hiro
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>>150692379
Why does no one talk about how masterful this scene was? That's literally what I want the entire last episode to look like
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>>150692752
It's a complete robot. She didn't age one bit from the flashback. Also Toto bleeds and we saw no blood from the grandmabot.
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>>150690723
I can't wait to see non stupid Papika.
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>>150692759
I think that specula is dead. Salt basically confirmed this is real Papika.
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>>150692340
Seriously, no votes for "it's not comfy adventures"? That's literally the only complaint I have.
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Is this how Flip Flapper threads are all the time? Just Yuri on Ice shitposters trying to spread their degenerate garbage over and over again?
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>I love you, but only because you're my beloved friend's daughter
The cycle of yuri cucking needs to end. Just because you got cucked, doesn't mean you have to cuck other girls. AOTS
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>>150692691
None of the girls are gay, Mimi ended up fucking Salt. For Papika to end up with Cocona it would be creepy as fuck because Papika is technically in her 30s. So no, the girls are going to end up with boyfriends when they get into high school..
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>>150692752
Look again. Her back has wires.
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>>150692746
Too slow.
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>>150692534
gj
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>>150692735
Yuri is pure degeneracy and you will not see girls fall in love, cuck. This show is shit and this is your last hope. Give up.
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>>150692518
For me an anime ripping off nge actively improves it, I just love it so much.
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>>150692812
Only on Thursdays and sometimes Fridays.
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Bu-chan is the original Papika's brain.
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>>150692783
>リアルロりババ
Kaoruko is so based.
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>>150692812
No.
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>>150692776
There was literally nothing wrong with what the twins said in that they managed to create a gap between Cocona and Yayaka.
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>>150692812
No, just hyper-falseflagging, including you and especially me.
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>>150692776
The twins were bad-mouthing Yayaka in order to separate Cocona from her. It's not 100% redundant exposition.
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>>150692840
you sound white which is worse than jews
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>>150692812
Alright, maybe I'm late to the party but I guess I'm adding "degenerate" to my filters
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>>150692800
Old peoples facial features don't change that much that you have to make is clear in animation, it wasn't even 10 years.
Also i was talking about Yuyus arm, pretty sure this one wouldn't bleed
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>People kept bullying Yayaka and calling her a cuck
>Turns out that Papika deserves that title more
APOLOGIZE
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>>150692819
Stop
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>I'm so fucked up
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>>150692496
You're not the last.
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>>150692874
>liberal antiwhite scum watch this cancerous show

As I expected. Hope you're ready for the death camps you racist.
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>>150692551
Every action("This episode was shit", "The show sucks now") has an equal and opposite reaction("This episode was the best", "AOTY"). When people shitpost with hollow attempts at criticism, the expected response is hollow attempts at praise.

Personally, I thought the episode was good. It wasn't as creative as other ones(no PI for example), but that wasn't the point. This episode focused on backstory and plot progression. It was not amazing, sure, but it was perfectly satisfying considering the plot and drama were never strong points compared to the unique visual flair and settings we've come to love. I think there will be a return to that whimsical nature near the end. I'm almost certain of it.
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>>150692797
Because its not yuri.
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>>150690723
>Papika is older than salt
What the fuck.
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>>150692917
>get out of my body mom
>ugh
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>>150692817
Only way to put an end to it is Yayaka to reverse cuck Papika. But also you'd need Papika to vanish after marrying Cocona and Cocona becomes a hobo with PI powers.
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>>150692812
Yes, and inflating the deepness of the show for the sake of making it look complex so as to give posters an intellectual high ground to hold over other shows. This allows one to dismiss all criticisms as them not getting it, missing the point, or it must by a faggot shitposter from another show base that one hates.
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>>150692964
They grew older and this scene is Papikana getting Mimi to escape.
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>>150692935
Yeah, on rewatching I'm really warming up to it.
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>>150692935
I still have hopes for the next one. It seems like a mindfuck backstory, merging the past and the present, linked through PI kind of thing.
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>>150692085
I feel you. Just now got to yours.
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>>150692819
>For Papika to end up with Cocona it would be creepy as fuck because Papika is technically in her 30s
Get the fuck out
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>>150692922
>Thinking I'm Liberal
>Using Racist wrong
>Telling the truth is racist
wew ladd
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I'm disappointed they didn't actually turn Yayaka into a robot. Although it's now confirmed that KKK has the technology, so if the twins catch her maybe there's still a chance.
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>>150692874
Good goyim, fight our battles over anime.
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>>150692261
Yeah, this is ideal. It'll forever be a classic, that people who had the ability to watch it in its entirety will never be able to match.
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>>150692975
>Mimi inside her daughter
>This is what you wanted, right Papika?
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>>150692917
>Complete despair, but also absolute despair
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>>150692922
>>150693043
get a room you two
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>>150693077
>did you stay up shitposting all night?
>but of course!
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I just got home
Summarize the episode for me while my painfully slow internet downloads it
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ITT:
>really feeling that writer change
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>>150693077
I love him.
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>>150693077
Nice dubs
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>>150692492
It's a few people expressing their opinions, and a large number of them overreacting. Chill dawg.
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>>150691077
>2. Ping Pong Girls
It feel off the wagon a long time ago, don't kid yourself.
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>>150693087
I guess futanons sock is safe after this episode.
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>>150693057
Toto missiles confirmed weak as fuck.
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>>150693118
Just read the cuckposts.
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After watching the latest episode, are you now sure that this is your AOTY, /a/? It is for me.
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>>150693125
ITT:
>plot sucks after writer change
>sakkan is web gen
>yuniko
>is this really necessary
>amazon stalker
>not even top 3
>yuribait
>phantom world 2.0
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>>150693118
It's good.
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Is FlipFlap the E.Y.E. of Anime?
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>>150693118
Flips were Flapped this day.
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>>150693118
>>150693125
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>>150692299
As a huge FliFla fanboy I'm enjoying the shitposting because it gives us a lot to talk about. Boring was one thing the episode was not.
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>>150693087
Don't make it any hotter than it has to be. Mimi being the coach for the first ropes.
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H-he's alive, isn't he?
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>>150693062
>Proofs me right with jew meme
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>>150693118
TRUST NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOURSELF
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>>150693139
Same with taking nameshits seriously, yet here you are.
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>>150693118
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trust me, you'll want to watch it yourself
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>>150693139
Fuck no. The latest episode was the best one.
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>>150693185
He is the last thing left that is real to Cocona
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>>150693118
COCONA GOT KEKEDONA
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>>150693179
First episode that made me check the bar to see when it's ending.
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>>150693189
I didn't bring it up until you did, but keep getting victimized.
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>>150693189
I love that even here there are crazy /pol/ users. Never change.
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>>150693118
Evangelion episode...fuck, the one when the Geofront almost got destroyed because Shinji bailed out.
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>>150693238
The only time I imagine you could've done that is during the flashback itself. Why would you feel bored watching KKK invade the FF HQ? Or the whole sequence including the breakup and leading up to Cocona BTFO'ing grannybot in the last five minutes?
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>>150692856
>>150692866
Okay, I'll concede that what the twins said at least had some purpose beyond just exposition. But this:

>That's what they were created for.
>They're kids who were genetically programmed
>with amorphous powers in
>order to go to Pure Illusion.
We pretty much knew this already. Redundant.

>And you?
>I had them implanted in me later.
This is pretty unnecessary. We know Yayaka can go to Pure Illusion, so we can make this assumption or something similar to justify it.
No need for the show to spell this out.

>Are there others?
>There were,
>but they were all incompatible, so they...
>I'm the only one who survived.
This is fine because it makes the teddy bears in Mimi's room hit even harder once you realize who they are.

>And yet they treat me like trash because
>I can't find amorphous by myself.
>It's just not fair.
>Wherever you two go,
>there's always an amorphous.
We knew this already. This is why they're tagging Cocona and Papika 24/7.

>Why would you go so far to collect fragments?
>If you collect all the amorphous,
>you can rule Pure Illusion.
>I was told they grant wishes.
>I guess I can't exactly call that a lie.
>If you can bend Pure Illusion to your will,
>you can do whatever you want.
Strongly foreshadowed. The puppet over the world shit was them smacking it in your head if you didn't get it.

>Just for that, you'd...
>I believed in the mission.
>If it brought about a world where
>nobody had to get hurt or hurt others...
>If choosing my rightful
>place meant losing it,
>I thought I'd be much happier letting
>someone make the choice for me.
I guess this is more Yayaka characterization, but she's been already shown to let The Organization (KKK) in the last episode arrange/plan things for her (i.e. her monitoring of Cocona). This explicitly details that she's desperately longing for a place to belong.
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>>150690723
>You know that trope in shows where the father runs to the hospital to find their wife and come face to face with their first born? This looks kinda like it, which scares me.
Goddamnit /u/.
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Fuck you guys, this episode was great. Every episode has been great in its own way.
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>mfw watching episode 10
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>>150693292
>The only time I imagine you could've done that is during the flashback itself.
Yeah.
>>
Now that the dust has finally settled can we all agree episode 10 was the EoE of anime?
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I can't be the only one who loves the idea of seeing older Papika, right?

I can't be the only one who enjoyed the fuck out of and looks forward to more Papika-Salt interactions, right?
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>>150693271
We elected a national socialist to be our new leader. Anime like Flip Flappers and Citrus and Yuri on Ice will soon be fucking banned for their promotion of degenerate lifestyles. I literally run the world's ideology, I and my comrades. Get used to it, senpai.
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>>150693253
>victimized.
Why are you so mad?
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>>150692292
That's because this episode was literally 25' (with shades of 21)
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>>150693330
I am starting to like the idea of it. I had to re-watch it a bunch of times though.
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>>150693216
>I want my feelings to reach you!
>I fight for my lesbian lover!
Why can't they play for normal things for once? Also Akarin is OP once again.
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>its a "butthurts yurifags and obese fujos endlessly fishing for replies" thread
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>>150693330
I hate it because I have to wait until next Thursday for it.

Oh god, is MAO going to do a slightly more mature-sounding voice? I don't know if my dick can handle that.
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>>150693344
>a national socialist to be our new leader
Cut the bullshit. We already know that Jill Stein will ban anime after winning the election of 2020
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>>150693128
Mirror and rotate 90 degrees to the right
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>>150693344
Meh, the worst thing he's going to do is gold plate everything, wasting tons of money that the fed can manufacture more of. Fuck off.
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>hearing grandma say "seize her"

Was this unintentionally hilarious to anyone else
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>>150693330
No, this idea is great. I hope she matures alongside her silly quirks.
>snif, snif, snif
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>>150693299
Cocona didn't know most of those things that we knew. It may be slightly redundant but it's a way of putting the opposing characters(Cocona and Yayaka) on the same page. It only took up a few minutes anyway.
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>>150693386
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>>150693193
This face comes off as really awkward to me. It's my least favorite part of the episode
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>>150693385
We're going to rig the system to never have an election again. Why would we give power back to the leftists who make anime like this one? We have the mandate to do so.

>>150693387
See you at the gas chamber rabbi.
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>>150693330
The idea of Salt and Papika being the same age and longtime friends is awesome to me in a very weird way.
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>>150692340
The episode was fine. We needed a plot heavy episode to get all this shit out of the way and set up the finale at some point, since the shows been avoiding giving out any information on what the fuck is happening or who these people are until now. I also liked how it framed it as Cocona finally getting her answers after being strung along for so long like the viewers have.

It's generic and the shows not nearly as good at its meta arc as it is the episodic adventures but it worked well enough. My only fear is that, with no more fragments, the last three episodes are going to be a similar tone and vibe with little adventure going on. It'd be a shame if the shows strongest aspect was only utilized in episodes 1-3, 5 and 8.
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>>150693344
>he still believes trump or any politician will make a difference
spotted the underage who's only payed attention to politics for the last year.
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So were the kids being killed because of stuff they encountered in Pure Illusion, or the process of trying to enter?
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>>150693299
Maybe it could have been written more efficiently or subtly written, yeah. Actually, episode 7 is pretty good in that regard (except maybe Hidaka's exposition), and yet people complained that it's all style over substance, because of the ambiguity it creates.
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>>150693299
oh shit 1 minute of conversation you could already know if you paid attention.
Also the part about thewish was pretty new. Before this we had to asume that the shards actually grant a wish that the KKK wanted to rule the world, that's a completely different goal then making your wishes come true in another dimension
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>>150693479
Process of trying to enter, considering how everyone else reacted with Papika.
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Well this week's episode was very informative at last. I enjoyed it, much better than the trash from last week. Now that we know for sure Mimi is the mother, I wonder what's gonna go with Papika x Cocona relationship.

>>150693330
Yeah. This was a good watch, already waiting for next ep
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>>150693378
I'm not butthurt, on the contrary I'm glad that Cocona's parents are Mimi and Salt instead of Salt and Papika. Or Cocona being amnesiac Mimi and therefore Salt's wife. Or Papika and Cocona being one person. Also there are no fujos here, just anons false-flagging because they don't like a perfectly fine show like YOI.
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>>150693460
Trump isn't a politician, he's a force of the people. He already got you a Code Geass sequel. He's going to make America a white nationalist state like the founders intended.
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>Meanwhile, artists make mimiyayacoco.
Japan, I...
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>>150693436
This is the face of someone who has hit the absolute nadir of her life.

>your grandma is a lie
>your girlfriend never loved you
>your best friend was a complete tool
>your adventures amounted to nothing
>your life has been a controlled experiment
>your mom has taken over your body
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>>150693479
What happened to Papika's previous partner in episode 1 in your opinion? Probably the same thing.
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>>150693460
>payed
Spotted the under-age who hasn't paid attention to anything at school.
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>that text
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C U T E
U
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Did anyone else find Yayaka incredibly moe this episode? She looked so vulnerable. I wanted Cocona to hug her, and Papika to forcibly carry her to safety.
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>>150693525
Well said
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>>150693525
>>your girlfriend never loved you
She wasn't willing to listen to the truth!
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>>150693520
I'll join you if you promise to gas the fujos. .
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>>150693551
>face all fucked up
>cute

what
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Kinda disappointed that this is yuribait, now that we know that Mimi and Salt got together. Also Cocona cannot be with Papika because its creepy for a 40 year old autist to be with a middle school girl.
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>>150693504
>much better than the trash from last week
Holy shit how can you be this wrong?
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>>150693479
They were killed by choking on Mimi's big futa dick.
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>>150693389
>unintentionally hilarious
Yeah, anyone giggled with Cocona and papika escaping through the tubes or KKK leader going WHOOOOA?
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>>150693427
I laughed. Maybe just because it's 5am.
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>>150693551
>>150693564
Not even samefagging
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>>150693570
Papika confession to Cocona is going to make this show 10/10
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>>150693564
>carry her to safety
Over her protests of course.
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>>150693494
>Before this we had to asume that the shards actually grant a wish
No. You're dumb.

>oh shit 1 minute of conversation you could already know if you paid attention.
But that's what makes it bad? It's not about how much time it takes it's about cheapening the effect and dumbing things down. More detrimental than the pure plot dump is their half-assed way of 'characterizing' Yayaka by making her state super anime cliched crap of finding a world with no unhappiness and shit.
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>>150693389
I laughed, but only because I failed SAN check.
>>
BEST
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>>150693520
Memes are a force of the people. How will they take us to space? if anything aliens get them and blow up the species.
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>>150690899
>dislikes this
>actually can stomach new game!
figures
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>>150693619
First episode is still my fav. I rewatch it every other day.
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>>150693479
So, Mimi could basically henshin IRL right?
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>>150693450
Their little convo was a great moment.
>>
Great episode, really interesting. Lots of theories confirmed. I really want to see Cocona kick some ass now she has the power of Mimi.
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15mins in, I am scared to know Papika's actual age now.
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>>150693536
>those notes

Did they just google "english" and copy stuff from wikipedia to fill up space?
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>>150693524
The YayaCoco train has no brakes. Dogs get out.
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>>150693683
Henshin is the power of one shard. "Henshin" of Mimi herself is what wiped out the lake and hospital.
>>
Am I the only one that realized that the research labs' plan was something like

1) get someone to enter Pure Illusion
2) ???
3) PROFIT!

I mean, you can't get things out of Pure Illusion, because they are not real.
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>>150693524
Japan has great taste.
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>>150693702
Late forties.
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>/a/ hates Cocona
>Papika is actually intelligent
>Salt is the same age as Papika
>Cocona's grandma is KKK

I hate this.

They can't front load this many twists.
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>>150693703
>she'll still be using "Tanomo!"
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>>150693479
Nobody ever said the kids died with Mimi. Although given what we know it's likely a few did in the beginning of the program before they learned not to attempt a transfer with high impedance.
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>>150693715
It would be the second time they've done that.
They seem to be using Wikipedia as lorem ipsum
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>>150693718
Ninaryo is love.
Ninaryo is life.
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>>150693745
Nobody hates Cocona.
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>>150693703
>Mimi's room
Papikana was getting Mimi to escape
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Wow. What a bitch.
>>
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>>150693703
>these tits
I thought that was impossible in the world of FliFla.
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>>150693776
Translate it, weebs.
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>>150693364
The overblown aspect of the show is why I love it, it would be exceptionally boring if they just played normally.
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>>150693787
Who cares if it was set up from the beginning, she saved Cocona's ass when it mattered.
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>>150693776
Fuck these guys are fast.
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>>150693479
I think yeah, that confirmed "another bust" from Episode 1 was literally a dead girl who Papika tried to enter Pure Illusion with. Flip Flap really are fairly sinister themselves. The language they use like "partner candidate" is clearly derived from those earlier experiments.

Also that field by the lake where they were today with Mimi and Salt was clearly where the flashback accident with Mimi happened right?

I am starting to think what we interpreted as a younger Papika in the flashback might actually be an older Papika and somehow her age gets reversed by the shards of mimi disaster that happens by the lake.

I assume at some point we will see that there is some drama at that original research facility and Mimi tries to escape or prevent them doing their research by bursting into shards to prevent them accessing Pure Illusion easily when she finds out the reason they are doing the research. Perhaps even Salt is the one to tell her because he has inside info.
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>>150693745
What. Cocona and Papika are best.
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>>150693726
More like
1) Get people to Pure Illusion.
2) Manipulate people and past events via DPI.
3) Then do something with the fragments.
4) Dominate the world.
5) Make medicine x10 more expensive while throwing empty cans at poorfags that can't keep up.
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The more I think about it the more I'm liking this train wreck.
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Nanda omae?
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>>150693840
YayaCoco art was pretty abundant before. It only surged after the last week's episode.
>>
So, AOTY?
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>>150693726
You can change the real world by influencing Pure Illusion this has been demostrated at length in the series. The plan was explained in this episode, gain influence over Pure Illusion to be able to exercise control over the entire world through manipulating Pure Illusion.
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>>150693785
Nice catch, confirms it's a flashback
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>>150693551
>>150693564
Yaya is always cute. A part of me is disheartened over the fact she won't truly win.
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Am I right in assuming that KKK leader man is Salt's daddy, since they've obviously got the same eyes and Salt's dad was the lead scientist on the Mimi project?
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>>150693872
NO NO NO NO FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
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>>150693718
NO YOYO IT IS YOU WHO'S OUT, OUT OF HER MIND.
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>>150693850
>I am starting to think what we interpreted as a younger Papika in the flashback might actually be an older Papika and somehow her age gets reversed by the shards of mimi disaster that happens by the lake.
That'd be awesome (and creepy)
Also explains why Papika's chest got smaller
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>>150693870
>3) Then do something with the fragments.
That's irrelevant to their original project. The key was always Mimi, since she's the only superpowered being/person with the ability to enter PI (Papika only got in because Mimi made her).

If Mimi becomes fragments, then you need to restore Mimi; indirectly, the fragments gave them a way to access PI I guess. I wonder if Mimi foresaw that.
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>>150693763
They said "nobody who has gone into that room has ever come back" that kind of implies death along with the another bust girl at the beginning but at the same time it looked like when Papika wasn't working they were just going to skip her, so maybe they just dismissed the girls who couldn't get the right impedance from the facility.
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>>150693745
The only thing I hate is this age thing. What the fuck.
>>150693816
>Uguu,,, Ticklish... (Moji...[?])
>Mou... Stop moving Yayaka
>>
I guarantee that if this had been another adventure episode you fucks would be complaining just as badly.
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>>150693804
Was this shot really necessary?
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>>150693640
Yeah, that cliched crap Yayaka started spouting at the end was quite bad. They should've just cut it out completely and had us fill in the pieces. Yayaka has been shown to have an external locus of control despite her repeated stating that her resolve is different from Cocona, when she really is the exact same. She generally goes with whatever the organization tells her to do until episode 8, when she decides to help Cocona and Papika explicitly and gets reported (she kind of did in episode 5 by helping them out in the time loop and in escaping the PI), and then in episode 9 when she begs for another chance and fails the organization by taking control of her own life for once and paying the price for explicitly betraying the Organization.

There's no need to state that she's actually changing the focus of her own life from having "someone make the choice for me" when it's apparent from her recent actions.
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Oh, the schizo is back! The threads were just not insane enough without him.
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>Sayuri did nothing again this episode
they should've just kill her and bury her under the ruins of the base desu
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>>150693963
Absolutely.
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>>150692078
Yeah as a massive trainwreck
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>>150693963
I don't like this meme
Yes it was
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>>150693978
>managing the defenses
>doing nothing
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>>150693986
Stop.
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>1000 year old dragon lolis wanting to ride high schooler D is okay
>somehow 30yo Papika becoming a teenager again and getting yuri love is awkward
Anime fans are bizarre
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>>150693963
It's a Sailor Moon reference
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>>150693619
Don't you puppies see the age gap as a death flag?
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>>150693953
Check the twitter senpai, it really did rose up in popularity.
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>>150693997
There are infinitely more trainwrecks than there are trainwrecks that are memorable and were great in the beginning. Which Kaiba, Kyousougiga and FliFla are.
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>>150694008
>managing the defenses
nope, that was Hidaka
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>>150694031
It's problematic
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>>150693928
It is the only logical explanation I can come up with for her having memories still and her looking older in the preview. She got a semi-permanent amnesia perhaps by Mimi's doing in the disaster and was aged back. Although that doesn't explain why Salt wasn't aged back. I am sure there will be some story based reasoning for it. Maybe Mimi thought she was doing Papika a favour (you would have been better off had you never met me so I will reverse time on you) but blamed Salt in some way at the time.
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>>150693952
But I'm not. I enjoyed this episode despite the stupid twists (old ass Papika, evil grandma).
>>150693986
>>150694025
You keep posting off-topic and replying to cancer as well as being cancer. Just stop.
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Yayaka's plot dump was necessary because she was trying to finally answer Cocona's questions. Yes the viewer could interpret stuff because we got to see Yayaka's backstory but that information still wasn't known by Cocona.
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>>150694031
When it's a 135486246 years old loli it's less strange because it's absurd and played out by now. This is a real woman-little girl age-gap.

I like it don't get me wrong, but it's not negligible.
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>>150694084
I enjoyed this episode as well. Fuck the haters, its still AOTS.
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>>150694083
This Papika's physical being was recovered from pure illusion after she got lost in "hell." He real body washed up comatose in the real world. her brain was used to build bu-chan
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>>150694084
>stupid twists
Papika's age discrepancy has been noted since the flashback and Grandma was noted since Episode 2. If you didn't envisage there being some reveal about Papika's age and the Grandma you probably weren't paying much attention.
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>>150693948
Exactly. There's no solid evidence pointing to deaths at Mimi's facility. Whereas we know for certain that the KKK were killing kids at their facility, most likely after Mimi disappeared.
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>>150694083
It's fairly obvious at this point Papika was aged back by PI magic. The only question is whether it was just her appearance, or her whole being got lapsed back in time.
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>>150694119
Nah then you are just a newfriend with shit taste. You really should watch more anime.
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>>150693640
Namecall me as much as you want but it was completely possible taht the shards would grant power in the real world instead of PI, especially since a lot of people seem to think that every PI disappears after they take its shard.
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>>150694031
>30yo becoming teenager and getting a girl
It's like my generic LN shit, except lesbian. How cliched can this show get?
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>>150694031
Papika is technically a loli right now.
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>>150693986
madman
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>>150693536
After a long day adventuring in PI, the girls like to recoup in the REOP AREA
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>>150694060
These kind of trainwrecks are the most disappointing and hurtful.
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>>150694162
Oh really? Please enlighten me as to your AOTS patrician-kun.
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>>150694181
Not that I'm complaining, because it's my wish fulfillment.
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>>150694131
I wasn't. I don't remember this. I will check it out now, though, thank you for stating it.
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>>150693582
I didn't care for Yayaka and their relationship, they never seemed like close friends in previous episodes. So that attempt to make the childhood backstory meaningful was just dull and melodarmatic. The pictures around them as they "fought" were just plain stupid.
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>>150694107
They were literally telling the story through the characters. It wasn't a case of transparently giving information to the viewer it was a logical progression within the story itself.
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>>150694211
Don't respond to these people, anon.
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>>150694177
Yeah and it was completely possible that the flashback from 7 were just Papika experiencing Salt's memories right?

Your own lacking interpretation of what we were shown doesn't change it. People like you are the reason they felt the need to restate everything so bluntly this week.
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What the fuck is this
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>>150694202
True. Still they are much better than the average anime.
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>>150694209
>!Akemi
What did he meant by this?
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>>150694031
>1000 year old dragon lolis wanting to ride high schooler V is okay
Fixed. And yes, yes that is very ok.
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>>150694243
but I want to make fun of their shit taste.
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>>150694211
The last time I asked this, the response was that all shows sucked this year. It's pointless to discuss with him.
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>>150694153
I'm guessing the KKK were one branch of the scientists at that lab who went mad and off the deepend after the disaster and Salt went the other way to try to stop them. Perhaps it all stemmed from a disagreement between Salt and his father maybe when Salt found out what they planned to use Mimi for.
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>Slow down Cocona, you're breaking my back!
>Tri-ba-dism? is it a band?
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>>150694258
A simple moment made magical solely by the power of rampant inthread speculation.
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>>150693952
Since I already into this show pretty much, I wont complain about the plot itself. And even though I'm not a "comfyfag", this episode made Cocona really pathetic. There's literally not a single one trustworthy. Feels very bad.
And shitposting distracted my attention, and I'm better now.
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>>150694209
no you kill yourself
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>>150694131
Grannybot is stupid regardless of foreshadowing.
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>>150694258
She is the means of production, distribution and/or exchange of the PI
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>>150694209
I can't care less about whatever "crack" you're talking about. If you're talking about girl x girl pictures, on a show where the cast is mostly girls, then you should check that damage control and let people prefer any pairing they might have a preference on, canon or not. I don't know what an akemi is but if you're giving that much attention to tripfags or cancerous fucks you're no better. Fuck off and go shitpost elsewhere. Also I like Papika x Cocona, since you want to avoid it that much.
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>>150694218
People in the threads were calling Grandma being a robot working for KKK from Episode 2 just due to how creepy her vibe was and how robotic she was. People noticed the age difference in the flashback straight away.
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>>150694289
Obviously the proto-KKK was a much better time which allowed Salt marrying Mimi.
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>>150694209
>I know what's actually there
Check it out then, these are mostly from director's favs https://twitter.com/binobinobi/likes
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>>150694276
>things that don't and will never exist
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>>150693715
Izetta did the same thing with its newspapers, except using american political articles. You can spot "Trump" in them, for example.
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Two episodes later...
>Plot? What plot?
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>>150694315
>>150694355
He's crazy. Report and don't reply.
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>people actually replying to ACK
Fucking newshits.
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>>150694303
Why is it? They wanted to keep Cocona under monitoring.
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>>150693077

VICTORY
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>>150694211
Best shows this season:
Haikyuu!!
YOI
Natsume Yuujinchou
You you disagree you are objectively wrong and don't understand shit about the medium at all. Haikyuu!! also had the ep of the year.
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>>150694390
>that one guy still posting matoishit
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>>150694390
>people actually posting Yuma-chin pictures

Poor taste.
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Seriously people, they're obviously setting up something big here. There's no other reason to change the character dynamics this much.
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>>150694410
Well, not change them, but "reveal" that they were different than we assumed all along.
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>Cocona tells Yayaka she's her friend
>Yayaka looks down and says "Actually I--"

Almost made me think she's gonna confess but now rewatching that scene she probably just wanted to get clean about the whole KKK thing
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>>150694404
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>>150694390
>newfag attwhore complaining about newfags
Everytime.
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>>150694405
Two, actually. There's two people watching Matoi and we're both here.
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>>150694303
Makes fine sense.

>>150694343
Yeah, maybe as they carried out their research using Papika and Mimi they discovered they could influence the real world with PI and that corrupted some of the scientists. Then they began trying to weaponize/confine/control Mimi when they realised what the could do with her. All the while Salt and Mimi had a romance and she became pregnant with Cocona. When the lab tries to exert more control/exploit Mimi everything goes to shit.
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>>150694332
I do remember people making lots of theories with grandma but I can very rarely take /a/ seriously, so I ignored it at the time.
>>150694380
Yeah, that was my last reply. Please do warn faggots not to respond to bait and shitposting anymore.
>>150694440
Me too, but I knew it would be interrupted and that it wouldn't be a confession anyway.
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>>150694373
b-b-but this train wreck is aoty
b-because.. COCONA'S butt!
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>>150694405
>>150694409
>bad taste
>in my Flip Flappers thread

>>150694450
>literally "no u"
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>>150694467
No anon, it's just you talking to yourself. Dave is not real, he's in your head. It's time to accept this.

Only you have this much of a shit taste.
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>>150694256
I never said this was my interpretation or that a confirmation for this was needed, i just said this was new information to a detail that was entirely clear before.
You got too angry for good conversation btw.
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>>150694396
It is just laughable. Why not simply make Grandma be a spy like YYK? The only reason they made her a robot was to have that Warner Bros slapstick shot of her ass on the debris.

I have a bigger, more general issue with what some of the stuff here did in terms of what I wanted from the show earlier on but that's more personal and I'll go into it when the threads are slower and less crap.
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Why the fuck are people here replying to one of the greatest shitposters of the board? The fact that he is complaining about "crackposting" only when it concerns yuri anime shows that this faggot is heavily self-inserting in yurishit or is an actual lesbian landwhale who's fighting a lost fight for the legitimacy of her sexuality.
Either way, ignore. Let it end after my post.
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>>150694491
Does matoi have lesbians?
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>>150694276
It already exists, and is being animated by Kyoani next season.
>inb4 they censor the loli
The manga is still a thing.
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>>150694534
No. Just actual lustful sluts.
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>>150693640
>Before this we had to asume that the shards actually grant a wish
That was in doubt from way back, Yayaka has suggested/implied to Cocona that was bullshit before.
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>>150694343
>>150694472
They might be "better" than the current religious weirdocult but they still conducted questionable human experiments and took away the freedom of dozens of children if not outright killing them (we still don't know about that)
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Doesn't Papika strike anyone as slightly disingenuous?

It's fine that she's been Cocona's friend all throughout because she clearly had lost her memories. But, as Salt said this episode, she now has her memories back: she's a 30-year old woman in the body of a JC who is going out of her way to pretend to another JC's friend just to manipulate her. She's continuing to put on the "Papika" act for the sole purpose of trying to deceive and control Cocona. Even when she finally "came clean" she very deliberately omitted the fact that she was an adult woman posing as a child, and that she knew Mimi was Cocona's mother.

This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for all the yuri speculah. When it was just about two pure and innocent young girls discovering one another, a kiss might have still been a possibility, but now that we know it's some filthy and defiled adult woman just faking it to manipulate a gullible child, the chance of romantic payoff is totally 0.
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>>150694467
>There's three people watching Matoi
FTFY
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>>150694534
It does if you count autism.
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>>150694218
In episode 2 they left Papika's age info blank and people speculated from that. The amnesia and the seemingly 'mysterious genki' archetype drove people even further to speculate. It's basically just shooting in the dark, really. There were a lot of other sunken speculahs like Papika being a robot etc.
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>>150694542
meant for
>>150694360
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>>150694534
Nope.
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>>150694542
She's not a loli. She has tits.
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>>150694484
>Me too, but I knew it would be interrupted and that it wouldn't be a confession anyway.
It would have been completely natural, IMO, for it to be both. "I... I'm actually a KKK plant. But I've been with you for so long, you're such a big part of my life... I wonder, I always thought... if we have to stay just friends... No, that's crazy, bakana"
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>>150694617
oppailoli
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>>150694580
That is correct. They seem at least somewhat sinister.

>>150694586
Salt said Papika hadn't changed in the same scene she regained her memories suggesting she behaved the same even when she was older. You are assuming that Papika isn't actually a child by the way. Merely having memories of things that happened before doesn't make you that age internally.
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>>150694625
>I was once this crazy
get help. please for the love of god get help
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>>150694586
>the chance of romantic payoff is totally 0.
For PapiCoco.
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>>150694625
hey, i missed you
did you enjoy episode 10?
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>>150694652
heresy
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>>150694625
i'm not you, akemi

>>150694640
stop quoting me
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>>150694652
Into the trash
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>>150692343
My favorite shitposter.
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>>150694586
>she now has her memories back: she's a 30-year old woman in the body of a JC who is going out of her way to pretend to another JC's friend just to manipulate her
We don't know the full story about that yet. Papika might as well still be 13 and her primary "being" might still be the Papika we know, with the memories being hazy recollections of a past that play more like a movie to her. It's not neuroscience, getting memories back doesn't necessarily imply recovering your old identity.

Of course it could also be just as you say though. But we don't know.
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>>150694673
Things are indeed looking bleak.
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>>150694591
It's pretty easy to differentiate between shitposting (eg. what if Papikaq is a robot? lol) and actual speculah. Don't cherrypick the latter to discredit the former. We figured these things out through discussion, analysis of the available information and valid inductive reasoning. There was no dartboard involved.

Next you'll tell me everything was just blind guessing because sodium vapor lamps. Intentionally misconstruing jokes as having equal legitimacy to serious discussion is just silly, and makes it obvious you're cherrypicking to try and advance an argument with no basis.
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>>150694542
Ah, so that's where this page is from
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>this episode
wew
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>>150694719
That is how I thought it was to be honest. Papika is still Papika just a Papika that now remembers being Papikana.
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>>150691254
They're small, and also the same age as Cocona, a high schooler
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>>150694673
>>150694720
You serious? This is literally "misunderstandings that would only take a conversation to solve" kind of tier. If Papika tells Cocona the full story and Cocona lets her everything would be fine. It is only that they had Cocona storm off that they even disagreed. To be honest I think thats understandable after Cocona just had the majority of her world flipped upside down.
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>>150693346
Not even mad, but keep trying.
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>>150694586
Not yurifag/shipfag but the OP/ED are strongly supporting them, so It's hard for you to convince me other possibilities.
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>>150694778
Watch her closely when she speaks throughout the episode.

She doesn't talk like Papika anymore. Her diction has changed, she speaks with proper grammar and manners and doesn't stumble over big words. She's definitely gotten more back than just memories.
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>>150694742
Yeah, it was trash. It only confirms how the excellence of the series has fallen.
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How do we end shitposting?
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>this thread
wew
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/r/ing webm
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>>150694893
Come back when everyone decides to stop being raging fucking retards. Maybe tomorrow night.
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>matoiposting
>Matoi is about a little girl being posessed by her mom to do magic
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>>150694907
>those teeth
Hidaka = Uexkull confirmed?
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>>150694860
The old Papika didn't speak properly from what we have seen and Salt said she was exactly the same as before. She sounds exactly like Papika when she busts in to rescue Cocona and the rest of the time she is just being sad.
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>>150694778
They basically have 2 possible courses of action imo:
-Papika is now Papikana, regaining her entire old identity back. She had amnesia and her body got de-aged because reasons. Her role in the story wrt Cocona will necessarily change and she will die/disappear/go on with her life at the end, or become more of an aunt-type guardian.

-Papikana got her entire being lapsed back in time when the ep7 stuff happened. Current Papika is practically a normal teenager, although with a magic mumbo jumbo backstory. Her memories of having been Papikana were embedded in the sahrds or sealed away by what Mimi did, that's why they were coming back as the KKK put the shards together. Her relationship with Cocona will continue in the same terms the show had established before and we will get a yuri/S U B T E X T end.

If they try to do something in the middle or compromise both scenarios, they will most probably botch it because they're kinda irreconciliable storytelling-wise considering the previous 9 episodes.
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>>150691573
Salt...
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>>150694586
The gist here is how the feelings Papika has for Mimi differs from the one she has for Cocona with whom she's reached a deeper understanding and actually reciprocates,while Mimi ws just a friend and no they don't need to be intimate to tavel to PI. It actually fires up the chances of a mutual confession at least since this is a cliche replacement goldfish plot.
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>>150694860
She stumbled over a word in the flashback.
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>>150694845
Actually not a misunderstanding. Cocona understands the situation, at least to the extent that Papika is concerned. She just doesn't buy the "I love you for you" thing, regardless of how genuine Papika is being. It's a matter of trust and betrayal, not a lack of information and communication preventing mutual understanding.
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>>150694970
I don't mind either personally although I think I would prefer the later type of path.
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>>150694586
>This pretty much puts the nail in the coffin for all the yuri speculah
Not even close. I predicted this situation would come up immediately after Ep7, based on the themes of that episode and anon's analysis.
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>>150694979
>The gist here is how the feelings Papika has for Mimi differs from the one she has for Cocona
I'm yet to see that. Only Cocona appears to be serious about their relationship.
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I wanted to ask whether Cocona is SaltXMimi or PapicaXMimi but I when I see this thread it would have some /u/implications wouldn't it?
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>>150695025
I said "tier" not literally. As in if they actually had a conversation Cocona would fully understand the situation. Papika hasn't betrayed her trust at all nor deceived her at any point. She never knew any of that but Cocona assumes she does rashly because everyone else knew everything.
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>>150695072
Cocona is Salt and Mimi's child, thank god for that.
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>>150694907
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>>150695058
Papika is too she just expresses it in her own autistic way.
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>>150695072
>I wanted to ask whether Cocona is SaltXMimi or PapicaXMimi
It's pretty fucking obvious Cocona is Salt and Mimi's daughter, dude. Get your head out of the clouds.
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>>150695091
Papika is literally the only character that has been honest with Cocona for the entire show. Everyone else has intentionally used and deceived her. Cocona will come to see that before the end.
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>>150695058
The show does not give any reason as to why Papika would fall in love with Cocona because the early episodes (save for 2's climax) are all from Cocona's perspective. Papika's presence in the story was more about what she represented to our MC than her own person with her own independent mind.

The whole Mimi thing creates a reason for her initial fixation (and well, it's plot relevant), but not for Papika "loving Cocona for Cocona". Nothing in the series develops this angle.
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>>150695055
Not him, it's just you overthinking it. This show isn't as well-put as to come out something like that. Everyone laughed at you when you were BTFO, after what Hidaka said didn't fit your mental gymnastics.
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>>150695120
Thanks
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>>150695150
>Papika is literally the only character that has been honest with Cocona for the entire show.
No, that lists includes everyone that interacted with her besides Yuyu and Grandma.
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>>150695159
The fact that they spend time together develops that angle.
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>>150695145
I'm not feeling it, especially not seeing how she was also close to Mimi but not romantically while Cocona appears to truly be jealous. I won't hold my breath for a CocoPapi end, especially not now with the time convoluted age-gap.
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>>150694652
>>150694617
I don't think so jim.
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>>150695148
Well within PI it is not out of realm of possibility. Also Salt doesn't treat Cocona like daughter.
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>>150694938
I admit I'm mad at present, unironically. But I'm extremely worrying about how can they give Cocona a proper ending, since the world shown in ep10 is really crazy.
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>>150694955
>Salt said she was exactly the same as before
English is not your first language, I'm guessing.

"You haven't changed" is an english idiom used when greeting someone you haven't seen in a while which connotatively emphasizes that they have failed to correct their negative qualities in the time since they last met. Salt shot this back at Papika after being told he had gotten meaner. It's not meant to be taken literally.
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>>150695189
Yuyu lied to her last episode telling her what Yayaka and Papika were talking about, Grandma deceived her by pretending to be real (although if she is a robot she doesn't technically have a choice). Papika has never once knowingly told a lie or deceived Cocona, any information she has yet to tell Cocona that she has remembered was initially because she didn't want to cause her pain and then later because Cocona wouldn't allow her to explain properly.
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>>150695091
The fact that Papika had amnesia isn't relevant to what Cocona feels right now. It's not like Papika can win Cocona over by simply -explaining- things, she has to make an action and regain her trust so Cocona can actually buy that Papika loves her for who she is. There's no scenario where that can be demonstrated by rational conversation.
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>>150695150
>Hey Papika, who is Mimi
>Oh don't worry, she's not your mother or anything like that, it's just a friend of mine from way back. I'm totally not an adult sexual predator parading in the body of a child in order to seduce you into following my boss' plan or anything like that hahaha
Papikana A SHIT
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>>150695150
The only one in the show that hasn't deceived Cocona is Iroha. She was the only real friend Cocona had.
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>>150695280
>Yuyu lied to her last episode telling her what Yayaka and Papika were talking about, Grandma deceived her by pretending to be real (although if she is a robot she doesn't technically have a choice).
No shit? Do you not know what "besides" means?

>Papika has never once knowingly told a lie or deceived Cocona, any information she has yet to tell Cocona that she has remembered was initially because she didn't want to cause her pain and then later because Cocona wouldn't allow her to explain properly.
Again, no shit, that's not what I was talking about. You said Papika was the only person to never lie to Cocona. That's false.
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>>150695270
No English is my first language. Your interpretation of that phrase and its application is completely off. People say that in all kinds of context. Grandparent sees kid for first time in a long time "He might have gotten taller but he hasn't changed at all". It's not only negative characteristics by any measure.
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>>150695208
She went on a yelling spree about it tho, in 4(?). Just, as stated, autisticly and using dumb examples instead of getting to the heart of what she meant. And the "I love everything about her" seemed way different in tone from the "Love love LOOVE" you from 3
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>>150695338
>I'm totally not an adult sexual predator parading in the body of a child in order to seduce you
Unfortunately it's not that. She's not romantically interested.
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>>150695303
I know what you're implying anon and I want it to happen too.
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>>150695161
Wrong person.
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>>150695203
All of the time they spend together is shown from Cocona's perspective and is used to emphasize her growing acceptance and self-discovery which Papika was a catalyst for. Nothing from there ever remotely gets into Papika's mind to flesh out her character, her thoughts and motivations. Even in the intimate ep4 conversation, when asked about her wish she says "secret" and is vague about the whole situation, setting up more plot speculation than character beats.

If you don't see this you are wrong. This isn't a matter of interpretation.
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>>150695342
I think it is more accurate to say everyone besides Sayuri and Hidaka has deceived her to be honest although we don't know how much more they knew than her.
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>>150695341
>Hey Cocona, I love painting and hanging out with my kouhai being chill and candid
>Nevermind, I actually hate painting and art and being chill and now I'm gonna go have fun with my real friends adios loser
Iroha a shit, too.

Fuck all these characters, Cocona is a victim here.
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>>150695387
I'll wait and see. I'm feeling this will be a bittersweet ending where Papika disappears. Her current existence is unnatural.
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>>150695072
>>>/u/2207354
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>>150695341
And Cocona ruined her
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>>150695445
>Nevermind, I actually hate painting and art and being chill and now I'm gonna go have fun with my real friends adios loser
That's literally Cocona's fault retard
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Fuck you all and your autism. Every single dialogue you overanalyze and criticize like it's a fucking literature class assignment or something. This show is just a fun trainwreck and nothing wrong with that. It's you faggots who thought that this was a potential artistic masterpiece or something, and felt compelled to delude yourselves, making it more than what it actually is.
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>>150695467
Don't send me into that place. I'll never ask such stupid questions again.
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>>150695407
I'm not implying that. If what I said is exactly what happens, I'm thinking more along the lines of Cocona being imprisoned/hidden in the prison tree from her dream (which is likely a PI), and Papika will come there and say "Mitzuketa" or some shit while Cocona is going through some internal turmoil.
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>>150695504
>trainwreck
No and fuck off.
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>>150695504
So what?
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>>150695504
Yeah how dare people try to have fun in their own way
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>>150695261
I have faith. Show's been good about following through on its themes, and for ep 5 to mean anything (Coconuts ringing the bell the twelfth time to actually make things advance at yuri school) we shouldn't get worst end

if we do I'll flip shit tho
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>>150695447
So all children are actually siblings.
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>>150695441
Sayuri covered for Hidaka when he was explaining the transformation stuff in 5.
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>>150695504
>It's you faggots who thought that this was a potential artistic masterpiece or something
This was just the cancerous circlejerk though. FliFla was never that good to begin with.
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>>150695547
Yes it is, gaylord.
>>150695550
>>150695557
You literally get BTFO this episode with all those stupid tweest and cliches, so stop continuing your stupid shit, you dumbfuck/
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>>150695416
Go watch 16:30 onawards of episode 4 and say there is nothing in it showing Papika liking Cocona for Cocona again. Go watch Papika be amazed by Cocona's booksmarts in school before that too and see she notices it earlier and then comments on it later in Episode 4. Go notice how Cocona makes Papika reflect on herself and change her attitude when she tells her about the danger of PI. T

he focus isn't as heavy as on Cocona's feelings for Papika because as you say its told from Cocona's perspective but there are definitely moments where you can see Papika's admiration for Cocona for things about Cocona and how Cocona influences Papika back.
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>>150695504
>make my anti-post easy to identify.
We are having a good time now, fuck off.
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>>150695504
The show was funner before and this episode wasn't as fun. That's all it boils down to. The fact that some of us make longer posts about it is completely irrelevant to the sentiment.
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>this thread
W-well.

At least we can all agree that Yayaka will win the Coconabowl.
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>age gap yuri

Nice, also reminder this also happened in Dragonball and no one gave a shit, Papika is not a pedophile
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>People are surprised Papika was actually older than she seems
We've been saying this ever since the first Mimi flashback.
No one bitched about that possibility then, why do you sperglords complain now?
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>>150695663
I'm so BTFO that I'm having a great time in these threads anon

You seem pretty upset yourself for some reason on the other hand.
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>>150693238
>>150693292
I do the same thing, but only to make sure it's not going to cut to "to be continued" long before I'm ready
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>>150695604
Either way I think Cocona is pretty justified in being pissed off with it all even if it is frustrating that she wouldn't give Papika the opportunity to explain her situation when that would have at least let Cocona understand Papika wasn't intentionally deceptive like everyone else.
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>>150695684
>i'm a retarded manchild and can't listen to things that hurt my escapism
Yeah, you fuck off.
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>>150695663
>Oh God! how dare a story try to pull off a nice narrative!
And I don't understand how I "got BTFO" exactly. The episode was just as I and /a/ had expected. (cf. the theories)

The only one unsatsified is you, shitlord. You might want to stop consuming anime.
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>>150695717
Sure.
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>>150695620
>FliFla was never that good to begin with.
Holy shit, these pretentious people here are extreme.
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>>150695726
>sperglords
Kill yourself, crossboarder.
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>>150695416
You need to try observing visual cues some time. Papika was obviously lovestruck by the end of ep1, and that only grew over time.
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>>150695504
It literally is a masterpiece and this episode only reinforced that.
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>>150695829
She wasn't lovestruck by Mimi, which is weird.
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>>150695717
I don't even care anymore.
Bring on those "it was all a dream" endings.
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>>150695726
People have been saying this since episode 1, where her age on one of the computer monitors was undefined
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Well this is now my AOTS or even AOTY if they keep the quality
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>>150695719
>Papika is not a pedophile
Of course not, Cocona isn't prepubescent.
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>>150695048
>it's only a handful of previously know crack shitters drawing crack for this series.
Pic related was drawn by one of the official animators though.
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>>150695855
>"it was all a dream" ending
You shouldn't joke about such things, anon
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>>150695620
That's what happens when, instead of watching current season/backlogging superior shows, they keep circlejerking here like a cancer they are. The truth is everyone keeps watching this either because it's a fun trainwreck or it's a yuribait. Yurifags tend to have cognitive dissonance and think that this is a masterpiece, when it's mostly because yuri as a genre is mostly shit. So, even a trainwreck cliched original like this gets the utmost praise from them. Kinda like that hilarious melodrama Kannazuki no Miko.
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>>150695873
No one cares about your shallow taste, newfag.
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>>150695671
>Go watch 16:30 onawards of episode 4 and say there is nothing in it[...]
That is all framed from Cocona's perspective. Scriptwriting isn't reality, things happend because of purposes.

What I said in my original post wasn't that Papika is never shown genuinely liking Cocona, it is that we never get to understand why she, personally, would come to that state. For contrast, simply look at Cocona (the focal character of the show) and how the show is always prying her mind and reflecting her thoughts and internal headspace. So when Cocona has an emotional response or comes to a conclusion, we understand her plight and see where it came from. For Papika, this never happens. We know, externally that she likes X or Y about Cocona, but we don't understand her as a character internally. This is called motive. Papika is a pretty flat character whose motive is always obscured from us, because she was always a foil for Cocona who is the character the show is interested in exploring.

>change her attitude when she tells her about the danger of PI.
That's the climax of ep2 that I mentioned. Which after 8 episodes sticks out as kind of anachronistic with the rest of the show. They could've easily gone in that direction and choose to develop the duo as two individual characters with their own minds, but from 3 onwards and especially with 4&7 the direction of the script was completely different.
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>they will use CocoPapi's ability to henshin as a way of making their relationship separate and unique from MimiPapi
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>>150695855
Fuck off with this shit or I make it as though your life had been a dream.
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So speculah and observations confirmed by this episode:

Amorphous children are actually genetically engineered testube people
Cocona has a shard embedded in her thigh scar
Grandma was an Asclepius robot
Mimi and Salt are Cocona's parents
Papika is older than she appears (roughly same age as Salt) and her feral child disposition is the result of PI memory fuckery
Flip Flap are former Asclepius that broke off
"Another bust" literally does refer to children dying as they fail to enter PI.
Amorphous are fragments of Mimi's power.
Asclepius' goal is to gain absolute control over PI and use it to influence the real world.
Cocona's entire life has been orchestrated by Asclepius to experiment on and monitor her.


And some new things to note:
Yayaka received medical treatment to give her amorphous power and make her capable of entering PI.
As her predecessor, Papika likely received this (or similar) treatment as well.
Several of the intimate bonding scenes between Cocona and Papika throughout the show (like the cliffhanger end of episode 7) have been repeating sequences from Papika's memories, but with Papika taking the place of Salt.

Anything else?
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>>150695528
You only need to hover to view the relevant post. No need to defile your computer by entering that stack overflow of purity.
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"I've always knew that this show is shit." ~ /a/
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>Papika got NTR'd
>Yayaka got NTR'd
>Cocona got NTR'd (by her own mother)

Wew lad
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>>150695873
Same I love how they managed to have those elements of darkness bubbling under the surface and just boil up enough every so often to remind you they are there through out the earlier episodes where the plot was just slowly being weaved together and transitioned that nicely into the more serious episodes which have all the more impact for that time they spent building the relationships and characters up. It felt comfy but there were always signs of the disturbing nature of what was going on behind the scenes and now they have revealed it I love it even more. Feels like a real journey with the characters.
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>>150695916
What's your AOTS and AOTY?
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>>150695916
>how DARE people express their opinion
It's not any different than you sperglords shitting on the anime for no reason. Even worse, there's no reason for you to stay here if you don't like it. Go back your faggotry on ice threads.
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>>150695983
Papika didn't get NTR'd. She never romantically loved Mimi.
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>>150695970
But it's not, an overwhelmingly majority of us like it, but it's way easier to get (you)'s if you go against the flow
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>>150695983
>Sayuri didn't get NTR'd
Truly best girl.
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>>150695952
>her feral child disposition is the result of PI memory fuckery
No, and this is a point that's going to be important down the road. The feral child is Papika's true nature. Memories or not, its the girl that Cocona fell in love with.
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>early episodes: THIS IS A MASTERPIECE AOTYAY
>now: only episode 3 was good this show has just got worse and worse
kek
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>>150696010
>romantically
Holy. Shit.
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>>150695997
Haikyuu is by far the best show this year if you understand at least a little about anime.
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>>150696024
You can't get NTR if you're not even competing.
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>>150695928
Are you sure that her motive is obscured, rather than her just being a simple person? I can guarantee you that even the older Papikana is still simple-minded.
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>>150696053
But she didn't? She wasn't even the one to make a crown for her.
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>>150696040
Who are you quoting?
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>>150696025
>>>/u/
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>>150696067
It was a fujo the entire time, I'm not surprised
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>>150696088
/a/, duh. Try to keep up.
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>>150696111
No one said anything like this. Get a head exam.
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>>150696092
Cocona really loves Papika, that much was apparent from episode 7. Mimi jealous from today's episode only enforces it. You're kinda lost here.
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>>150695928
>The show does not give any reason as to why Papika would fall in love with Cocona
>What I said in my original post wasn't that Papika is never shown genuinely liking Cocona
So are you admitting the show does give reasons why she would fall in love with Cocona? She is seen genuinely liking Cocona in the very scene you just dismissed because "it was from Cocona's perspective" and liking Cocona for things about Cocona. We might not understand her internal workings entirely that is true but it is obvious Papika admires Cocona in and of herself from the things she does and says in the show.
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>>150696111
But /a/ loves the anime. Don't mistake the haters for /a/.
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>>150696080
If she was a simple person she would have a simple motive, not a withheld motive. The show made a deliberate decision to be all about Cocona when they decided to make Papika a character we only experience externally (again, that ep2 bit excepted). It's not really about methods of characterization, it's about theme and focus.
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>>150696147
There there, no need to be so upset.
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>>150696067
I know more about anime than you could possibly imagine knowing and I say Flip Flappers is the best show. Sorry you lose.
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>>150695901
At some point the discussion was inexistent and the yurifags took over just like in Madoka threads, to the extent of being insufferable. They only enjoy this because it fits perfectly their secure blanket of shipping and cute girls doing shit. After these last episodes things started to fall apart and well, just look at how things are now.
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>>150696229
I have no idea what (you)'re talking about.
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>>150696195
>And that one image is not even crack.
Then why does it upsets you? It's lewder than some of the fanart posted.
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>>150696263
Clearly.
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>>150696195
You seem quite autistic to me even though you are calling other people autistic.
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>>150696279
But you're just making shit up as you go. No one said what you wrote. Not even the baiters,
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I don't know about you guys, but the shitposters' desperation to get (You)s (to the extent they have been samefagging like mad) is pretty funny.
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