Goblin Slayer is so last year. This is the current best fantasy

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>>150346874
This.
Even MC is better than all other MC out there.

>isekaishit

Pity reply (still saged)

>>150346874
not when konosuba exists

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>>150346874
>serious isekai

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>>150347151
>konosuba
>even come close

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>>150347248
>isekai
>with mmo shit
It's shit. Your taste is shit. You are shit. You're waifu is shit.

>more isekai tensei crap
FUCK no. I'll take the medieval doomguy any day.

>>150347317
You're saying that like goblin guy isn't absolutely superior to this trash.

>isekai

I'm in.

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>>150347317
>>150347356
>medieval doomguy
He's nothing against this DEMON.

Jesus christ japan stop with the isekai.

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>>150347426
>He's nothing against this pathetic self-insert Gary Stu

>>150347139
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>>150347317
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>>150347479
Samefag

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>>150347479
>>150347480
Unlike those trash isekai this MC is actually unique.
Also,
>pathetic self-insert Gary Stu
>pathetic
>implying you can even self insert as him
Unlike other trash isekai fantasy, this one is actually badass from get go.
And he's actually 94 years old before, not your average teen.

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>>150347651
Did this get licensed by Yen Press or why in the world are you shilling for this shit here like some kind of excited 12-year-old?

>>150347651
>is actually unique

>>150347683
It's just Dungeon Seeker threads all over again, a stealth LN thread.

Surprisingly enough the best written Isekai(character-wise) is Korean in the last few years, Dungeon Defense is really something.

>>150347317
please don't compare that trashy mango to a vidya masterpiece of storytelling like D44M

>>150347763
>Dungeon Defense is really something.
Muh daddy-issues supergenius MC. It's the same kind of wish-fulfillment bullshit most isekaishit are.

>>150347683
There's new chapter out. More people should know about this good gem.

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>>150347768
>a lone, extremely proficient, silent, no-bullshit man in concealing armour goes on an eternal quest to exterminate goblins/demons
Now if only goblinguy went berserk at some point and ripped open some goblin skulls, I'd be satisfied.

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>>150347800
Supergenius? Nah, just good at acting and bullshitting.

Pic related.

>>150347800
Why even come into these threads if all you are gonna do is spout buzzword nonsense

Oh man, oh no.
Isekai is my drug, I have zero resistance to it.
The worst part is that they generally take forever to flesh out the story, so it takes years for them to get anywhere.

>>150347863
Mate, he was literally a fucking savant genius as a child, then got the absolute fucking highest genius stats when he got isekai'd into the shit MMO world. It's wish fulfillment to the max, once again.

>>150347768
>imma kill all demons cause my waifu is dead
>better than anything

>>>/v/

>>150347651
>unique
babbys first isekai

>one of the girls is literally named Shion Femme Fatale
>it's her name, not a job or a class
what the fuck am I reading

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>>150347929
>imma kill all demons cause my waifu is dead
Are you telling me this isn't a valid reason?

we all know this is a bait thread and this manga belong to the trash can of this genre
but truly, look at the comment sections kids love these shit so much It hurt

is this the Dungeon Meshi thread

>>150346874
It's trash

>>150347926
You people seriously needs to get over this setting and archetype obsession like it's only thing that matters, how the fuck do you manage to read anything if they're all the same to you? Do you even read anything or just shitpost like a baby?
Dantalion could as well be the son of a interdimensional goddess and Azathoth, it's irrelevant, his abilities are irrelevant, it's how he's presented is what's people want, fucking execution, it's like saying IBO and LoGH are the same thing because they're both in space.

>>150348015
>>150348053
Fuck off.

It's trash.
isekai shit in NOT proper fantasy.

>>150347986
it wasn't any good writing, it's basic af

>>150346874
>>150347132
Isnt this almost exactly like how konosuba started

>>150348145
Isekai can become proper fantasy.

What is wrong with the Isekai genre is that is filled with copy and paste with only tiny changes, or not fully fleshed out worlds.

Anything can be good including Isekai. It just needs a good writer who isn't in it for cheap bucks.

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>>150348093
>how the fuck do you manage to read anything if they're all the same to you
By not reading shitty otakubait isekai series.
>it's irrelevant, his abilities are irrelevant
Except it's not. He is represented as an isekai'd nerd because that's the audience the author is trying to bait into reading his wish-fulfillment schlock.
>it's how he's presented is what's people want, fucking execution
Yeah, perfect genius, manipulates everyone with his intellect even though he's weaker and uglier than others but he still wins because he is literally a self-insert character.
If you like this bullshit, fine, go ahead. I don't.

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>>150346874
I do want to know why the WN translation was dropped for this series.

Also, best LN is (pic related)

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>All this people jealous since their favorite MC aren't as based as Renya
I'm laughing as we speak.

>>150347970
it's fucking terrible,
the moment he pulls out a fucking MMO system, lel it's not even a game like SOA, you just know it gonna get worse
you see, when it's a legit fantasy world and author have to chock his dick and stain it with a game system. inventory skill with number and shit it's a clear sight of shit writing

>>150348240
>the moment he pulls out a fucking MMO system
Seriously, this is the moment when you really need to drop whatever series you're reading and never look back.

>>150348201
Post 5 fantasy LNs you like.

>>150348276
Konosuba, Spice & Wolf, Kino no Tabi and that's it. I've dropped almost every single other fantasy LN I've read.

shitsekai go to /lit/

>>150347763
The dark gamer with his cynical outlook of life and the passion for blood whoah

>>150348276
he was right, most isekai shit is the same trash, and we rarely see anything remotely out of the norm,
like I did see a lawyer in fantasy world, but it;s pretty shit too,
a nip restaurant in fantasy world, this one is nice
well the problem is much like battle shounen when you have a receipt for general writing, how ever shounen can change the setting around, new mechanic, new world.
but with most iseikai it was the same old jap fantasy stereotype, same kind of plot, same characters etc

>this garbage
>When konosuba and overlord exist
Lol

>>150346874
Goblin Slayer isn't a manga it's a LN adaptation that will absolutely never be finished and was never meant to be anything other than marketing material for the LNs and people are stupid for getting into it.

So is your series. Except since yours is also self insert garbage I'm sure it will get an anime to market it too!

>>150348366
Wow, would you look at that, two waifubait series, one is Isekai.
Only Kino is a good series you got there.

And "I've dropped every single other fantasy LN I've read?"
Is that you pretending you have standards by discarding anything popular?

>>150348478
>popular
Like what? Don't tell me spice wolf and kino is not popular

>>150348478
>calling spice and wolf waifu bait
top kek this faggot and his bait

>>150348478
>i'm a shitsekai lover pls rape my face
I seriously hope you're being irony

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>>150348478
I'm saying I don't really read LNs because the vast majority of them are complete shit. I'd rather spend the time reading an actual novel, with creativity, good writing, good characters and so forth. Or maybe I'd read a manga instead.

>discarding anything popular?
What the fuck are you talking about? S&W and Kino are pretty much the most popular LNs.

>>150346874

>That pic

K-Konosuba?

>>150348549
It is, but then you'd drop everything, but that would make you look silly, so you got pick a few.

The fact is you don't actually enjoy anything.

>>150348478
You think your gook shit is popular?

>>150348478
>applying nip sensibilities on popularity to western audiences
I mean he listed the most popular light novel series in the west then you go and call him hipster?

>>150348588
Ah, aaaah, so that's where you were.

Is this an ln thread? Anyone read that ln about the guy reincarnating as a vending machine in a fantasy setting?

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>another fucking trash
two weren't enough

>>150348694
tell me more then

>>150348588
>I'm too cool for LNs I'd rather read a real book from Brandon Sanderson which is basically Western LNshit but at least it's not Japanese

That's what I hear.

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>>150348747
>projecting this much

>>150348724
I don't remember the name but he gets carried around by a girl with abnormal strength. He vends drinks, food items, and porn magazines for coin he uses to upgrade.

>>150347763
>dungeon defense
Cut my life into piece this is my last resort

Is this shit the new material for shitposters since Dungeon Seeker never took off?

Anyway

>Good Isekai

Konosuba

>Good Fantasy

Dungeon Meshi

>Alright Fantasy

Goblin Slayer
New Saga

>Guilty Pleasure Isekai

Overlord
Hatakaru

>Garbage

The rest.

>>150348761
Cute, but when you actually delude yourself into thinking all LN is shit but then turn around and read stuff from Garth Nix, Sanderson, Esslemont or Suggs then you just look like a faggot.

Can i isekai my 7?

>>150348821
this,

>>150348821

Forgot to add

>Guilty pleasure Fantasy

Maoyu

>Can't even say I actually enjoy it but I keep reading for some reason Isekai

Shieldbro

And now that I remember

>Lower that trash

Re: Monster

>>150346874
>not YgS

>>150348873
Isekai my 5 instead

>>150347651
Lol
Dropped

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>>150348863
I said I'd rather spend the time reading actual novels, not that I do. Why would you think I use my time in any constructive fashion?

>>150348821
Good Fantasy:

The Girl Who Ate Death.

>>150348950
So you don't read anything at all and still believe you're entitled to an opinion on the subject?

Complaining about wish fulfillment in LNs is use less
It's like reading smut and bitching that there's too many sex scenes

Is there an Isekai without the following parameters?

>Harem
>MC is OP
>MC is Edgy
>MC is a supergenius
>MC is an Otaku

I just want an Isekai where the MC is a normal non-otaku guy living in a fantasy world

>>150348821
Is that for LN manga adaptations only or something?

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>>150348998
I don't need to eat bucketloads of it to recognize shit.

>>150348588
>>150348950

>actual novel

"Light novel" is really just a marketing term. There's nothing that distinguishes them from the medium of plain ol' novels.

>2 chapters
Relatively new series?

>>150349063
They're essntially young adult novels and quite often too shit to actually sell enough copies to justify publishing outside of otaku circles.

>>150349021
You can't recognize anything because you don't read anything, what you do is parrot someone else opinion which might actually be valid since he spent time and effort to read it, unlike you who at best can function as a third rate news aggregate site.
It would be better to not say anything at all.

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>>150349011
Sort of, Boo Boo is OP and has super calculation needed to keep his body from tearing itself apart but he's too pure to realize it. He's also native to the isekai world, it's the humans that are coming over (and they can return). It does have game mechanics to an extent, but only for human magic.

>>150347763
>Dungeon Defense

I was really surprised when a bunch of people were praising this on /a/, I thought you had to be over 18 years of age to post here

>>150349011
You're asking for too much senpai

Question regarding LNs

Are there ANY moderately succesful light novels that don't have a cute grill at the forefront of most of if not every volume? I say most of because I do remember the odd Index cover without a girl in it.

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>>150349136
>You can't recognize anything because you don't read anything
Except as I think is completely clear, I've read, but not finished many isekai series. I am not repeating anyone's opinions, nor am I going to waste my time reading awful fucking wish fulfillment novels.
Good night.

>>150349154
There are people reading deviantart gook shit on /a/

>>150349154
A lot of people like simple escapist fantasies and they're too lazy or stupid to forge their own worlds in their mind, so they turn to stuff like DD.

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Speaking of fantasy, what do you think about Rakuin no Monshou?

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I'de totally read an Isekai where MC is pic related

>>150349322
About 2 million times better than Eureka Seven.

>>150349246
Pretty rare even for LNs like Heavy Object that focus primarily on guys.

>>150347308
That's RPGshit not MMOshit, moron.

Guys, guys, what in the fuck happened to Vamp!, why did it stop at 5 volumes?

>>150349367

>"N-NANIIIII!? The Maou is staring at that human boy right in the face and he's not even flinching!"
>"Look! They Maou himself looks unsettles by the human's face!"
>"What kind of monster is he!?"

>>150349011
Toaru Ossan no VRMMO Katsudouki

It has the same patterns you hate, only they aren't the main focus.
Also, it isn't exactly an Isekai.

>>150348478
If you had said entry level I would have maybe even had a higher opinion of you, but calling Kino no Tabi "waifubait" is just fucking stupid.

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>>150347248
>>150347132
>>150346874
>>150347308
This just sounds like VRMMO Ossan.

>>150349569
Read again.

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>>150348747
You do realize Nips have genre fiction books that aren't LNs, right? They're just produced at a much slower rate.

I hate it when a LN is trying to preach me something.
I hate it when a LN is trying to teach me something.
I hate it when a LN is trying to get some message across.
I hate it when a LN is trying to morally attune me.
I hate it when a LN is too morally ambiguous.
I hate it when a LN doesn't follow conventional story flow.
I hate it when a LN follows conventional story flow too literally.
I hate it when a LN has a lot of blood and violence.
I hate it when a LN is too sterile.

Case in point I just hate everything and nothing can satisfy me.

>>150349816
Sounds like you need a heavy novel, to the head.

>>150349816
Sounds like you just want middle ground, I can think of a few that still probably fit in that criteria

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>>150349874
I got just the thing.

>>150348821
Where does Kumo Desu ga Nani ka fit on this list? Surely it can't be garbage. I refuse to accept that. I guess I should try reading Konosuba since so many people are praising it in this thread for some reason though.

>>150349902
But it has to have a normal MC with normal skills with a normal personality surrounded by normal friends living a normal life.

>>150349322
Oh, I can't remember what volume I was on. Either 5 or 6.

Pretty good.

Is there something out there that's not otome/otakubait wishfullfilment?

>>150350111
No.
Because nobody would actually read it and no chief editor would let it be printed since it's a waste of money.
You're looking for a book, about beautiful, pristine and virgin girls, and you want it to not be wish fulfillment, that's ridiculous.

Every novel has some, the only difference is intensity.

>>150347763
the third volume was more than I could stomach and I had to give up half way. the MC is an edgelord who acts like someone who has the mentality of a 16-year, thinking it's cool to be an edgy sadist. he also copulates with random women for seemingly no reason at all, besides wish fulfillment. I fail to see where the "good writing" come into play, but apparently I dropped before that happened.

>>150347970
>>150348240
I don't get why he had to be an inhabitant of the modern world and THEN die. Why couldn't he just be a normal person from a fantasy series? Only reason I can think of is "muh master kendo skills", just like Kirito, which gives him a massive advantage against anything thrown at him, even multiple seasoned mercenaries despite it being his first real fight.

tldr it's a shameless power fantasy

>>150350111
You must be new here.

>>150350111
I really hate stories that cater to my tastes, I want books that I'm not interested in!

Idiot.

>>150350203
>You're looking for a book

You were right up until this point but then you went on some weird tangent about beautiful pristine virgin girls and how there are no books with virgin women (???).

Have you ever actually read a book?

>>150350283
But those obviously aren't his ... I mean you're ...

>>150347248
Konosuba is objectively better in every single way.
This shit is trying to ride the wave that Konosuba got, and it's failing miserably in everything it tries. It's embarrassing, and cringeworthy.
Be ashamed.

>goblin slayer mentioned
IS THIS THE NEW GOBLIN SLAYER THREAD?????

>>150350334
What specifically makes Konosuba superior to something like Overlord? I'm not trying to be provocative, I'm looking for a genuine answer. Is it the world building? Characters? Explanation/usage of mechanics? Consistency?

>>150350376
It doesn't take itself seriously.

>>150348821
Perfect list, well done anon

>>150350376
Self-effacing

>>150350052
>But it has to have a normal MC with normal skills with a normal personality surrounded by normal friends living a normal life.
You unironically hate fun. That's impressive.

>>150350376
It takes the piss out itself, and is actually hilarious. Overlord is just comfy isekai

>>150350502
But if everything's not normal how can I relate? Everything abnormal is weird and wrong, the bible said so.

>>150350394
>>150350466
>>150350542
Thank you for the sincere answers. I already downloaded volume 1 of Konosuba, but I was curious all the same. I'll be reading it later. I appreciate the responses.

>>150350376
The problem with Overlord is that the comedy and SOL bits are the best, but they are not the main focus.

>>150346874
>isekai
>best fantasy manga
>good at all
Baited/10

>>150350613
If you insist. I liked almost all of the Overlord LN. The volume which focused on Sebas was remarkably dull, the parts with him specifically, but otherwise I enjoyed reading basically all of it.

>>150350111
Yes.

>>150348821
I heard that Konosuba descends more and more into the usual LN wish fulfillment rubbish, but at least it started out okay.

Why don't you all grow up and go read a real book.

>>150350809
Go back to your dead board, /int/.

>>150349944
She spent way too little time as arachne, and I find the current Shiro kind of boring, but I know it's because she's shouldering the world on her back so I bear with it
I wish the author kept her as a spider

>>150348747
What?

>>150350743
No it stays hilarious all the way through. There is some sidestuff to please shipping fags, but it's not really relevant. Its a comedy above all else

>>150350838
That I can completely agree with, I suppose. The first 100-someodd chapters with her as a spider were great. After it starts getting into the bigger world around her the story really starts to wear down.

I still wouldn't consider it garbage though.

As someone who has read over 200 different novels over the last 13 years even before the Isekai boom this thread looks absolutely silly to me.

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>>150350809
>being this euphoric
wew

>>150350809
>not reading superior Han dynasty cartographic manuals

Is it super hard to get an LN published in Japan with all these isekai repeats coming out in droves?

>>150350920
See, this is the thing with people who read for a long time, they read so much crap that if they start complaining about stuff, it would never end.
Same thing with me but my area of expertise is manga, I've finished over 1800 series and am actively following over 900 of them, good and bad, if I started bitching about stuff I didn't like, it would literally never end, I don't have that much energy.
Thank fuck for that, I'd rather be reading and enjoying myself than telling someone else how I don't like something instead of just forgetting it.

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>>150350052
Go away Kamisato.

>>150350809
I did, I'm not fond of western fantasy "it just works" style of magic that focuses more on the creatures than the magic. I don't care about unicorns and shit.

>>150348747
Well, I do actually recommend Wheel of Time to anybody who wants to spend a few weeks to a few months reading about a fantasy setting with swords and magic and politics and warfare and relationships actually happening/progressing.

>>150351274
If you want an elaborate magic system you do have Wheel of Time and Words of Radiance.

But then again WoT is the clostest thing to LN fantasy as you can possibly get and I wonder why it hasn't been animated yet.

>>150348960
Underrated series, just like The Girl Who Bore the Flame Ring from the same author.

>>150348821

Would GATE be guilty pleasure?

>>150349322
I still can't believe that translations weren't dead and we're finally halfway through the story. Also the afterword of volume 6 was great, with the author's talk about the girls in the series

>“According to this, this time. No, I say ‘this time’, but it should be ‘this time too’, Vileena doesn’t appear, huh?”

>“(Ugh) She doesn’t appear… huh.”

>“Huh.”

>“Although she’s the heroine.”

>“It’s gone on for two books.”

>“That she doesn’t appear, huh.”

>“Since this is the sixth book, the heroine has been absent from a third of the whole series.”

>“Ha ha ha.”

>“This is no laughing matter. This is, in the best of circumstances, a plain story reeking of men. I want to at least refine it into something a bit prettier.”

>“Right.”

>“Can’t you do something about it?”

>“It’s not like I can’t but then it’ll be longer. Because even as it is, it seems kinda…”

>“Long, huh.”

>“Long, yeah.” (I restarted my game with it still on mute.)

>“Does she appear in the next one?”

>“If there is a next one.”

>>150350376
Overlord is just awful garbage. The real question is why anyone would like Overlord at all.

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>>150348913
>>Can't even say I actually enjoy it but I keep reading for some reason Isekai
>Shieldbro
You're here forever

Gormenghast, The Black Company, MythAdventures, The First Chronicles of Druss the Legend, The Lies of Locke Lamora, His Dark Materials, Novels of the Malazan Empire.

Anyone? There's a boatload of fantasy for you.
There's also "The Name of the Wind" if you're a faggot enough.

>>150351703
A few more series and you summed up all the western fantasy worth reading.
A few months if you're a fast reader and that stuff is all read, what are you gonna do after that? Watch paint dry?

>>150351674
For skelly man and monster girls I think.

>>150347763
Is Dungeon Defense that stuff where the guy has to "outwit" some brigands in his cave, then pulls over some succubus advisor from a big finance company to his side?

If it's that, then I remember there was exactly one writing-related thing I genuinely liked about it, but it's pretty shitty otherwise. Still, having one thing I liked is better than a majority of isekai stuff I tried reading.

>>150351793
Hit my head on the table really hard in hopes of shaking my brain and forgetting it.
Then read again.

>>150351648
So uh, does the Heroine show up again?

>>150351916
In volume 7.

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>>150348913
>for some reason

>an young Japanese male has been thrown into a medieval fantasy RPG world
Why not make a story about a medieval fantasy hero in a medieval fantasy world without all the nonsense?

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>>150346874
>no memory

Isn't that against the point of this kind of series

>>150351676

It's not like I'm suffering, but it disappointed me that the main party ended up being nothing but little girls and then the ancient advisor was a little girl and the mysterious antagonist is a qt grill and so on.

Next chapter when Shieldbro? At the very least I'm looking forward to the priest getting his shit kicked in

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>>150346874
I thought this might be shit but seeing how this man now has become my role model I'll be reading it anyways.

>>150351945
Not really. He's reborn but aware that he is on his second life and retains part of who he was before just no specific memories.

>>150351942
Why not make a medieval fantasy story about a hero who goes around killing people who traveled from another world into his because he hates black hair.

>>150351941
IS it wrong I wanted her to keep that terrified look?

>>150351942
Nips can't self insert. Plus they don't truly know enough about western medieval times.

>>150348821
Good list anon.

>>150349944
>Where does Kumo Desu ga Nani ka fit on this list? Surely it can't be garbage. I refuse to accept that.
Don't ask if you refuse to accept the truth.
>m-muh level up diary

>>150351619
Either as an alright or a guilty pleasure fantasy.

>>150351942
What would a japanese person do in a western medieval fantasy world?

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>>150348771
>I don't remember the name but he gets carried around by a girl with abnormal strength. He vends drinks, food items, and porn magazines for coin he uses to upgrade.

That is the Reincarnated As A Vending Machine story premise. It is being translated by Ensig at:

honyakusite {IQ_TEST} wordpress {IQ_TEST} com


There is a similar story about someone who was reincarnated as a sword. Ahhh, why don't these authors write something more interesting like "Reincarnated As Taylor Swift's Dildo"? Something like that would have a huge number of varied adventures all day long!

>>150352104
Acclimate or die.
Hope he's pretty open minded and reasonable or he's gonna die real fast since he has no modern laws to protect his dumb ass.

>>150351942
Because that would require character development and realistic interactions whereas with isekai you can just get out of everything with "miss harem member number five, here's my cheat ability wwwww".

>>150352092
>M-muh level up diary
What's wrong with this premise though? It starts off basically being a journal/diary of her life since she awoke in the new world, and then gradually moves on to more real time events. Is that your only issue with it?

>>150352104
Be a foreigner who is distrusted and is probably beaten or mugged.

Make money cleaning shit from the streets or other areas of a city. Which was great way to make money back then.

Working on the manor as a foreign butler for shelter and food.

>>150352104
>>150352046
I never said western.

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>>150352148
>>150352169
Exactly.

Hence why he needs to be transported from the modern world with OP cheats. No honorabu japanese wants to see a japanese character fumble in a western setting.

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>>150352020
Supposedly there's a hiatus in december but i have something to make up for it. There's a bit more gender variety (male) for villains in the LNs but most of it are going to be women, that cannot be avoided.

>>150352046
Not really You like to bully loli tanukis don't you

Wait /a/, I got it. How about a iseka LN about a pothead surfer dude that rides inside a sick ass wave that turns out to be a portal to another world filled with magic and catgirls and all that crap, and his response to every new little thing is "whoa dude! That's like, super radical!" And now he travels this brand new world acting like the stereotypical cooldude while searching for the mythical medicinal herb "kanabis"

>>150350838

Does she really spend too little time as a spider? Because I've been reading the manga and I'm fuck tired of it going nowhere.

>>150352207
Which one of those two girls is for rape?

>>150352264
Well, it's a rather interesting story to tell you the truth..

>>150352233
>mythical medicinal herb "kanabis"
What with japan's exterme anti-drug culture i'd say it'd be banned. But i'd buy a copy.

Is Grimgar at least a 7/10 as far as Isekai go?

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>>150352281
indulge me, otherwise I'll just pick one at random, and it'll probably be someones waifu

>>150352330
Wait, you really don't know?

>>150352311
I loved it. I know a lot of people who weren't very fond of it, and said it was boring.
I thought it was great, very pretty and comfy. 8/10 for me

>>150352344
Nope. Haven't watched it at all

>>150352207
Never saw that anime, but that image makes me upset over katana wanking.

>>150352164
It's not a problem with premise, it's a problem with writing. Now, making a good, entertaining story when you only have one sentient character available isn't easy, but even the parts following her former classmates are outright bad, clearly showing the abysmal level of the author's writing skills. And of course there's the stupid ass RPG leveling system allowing the MC start as a spider and end as a deity. I'm starting to think that all those web novel writers would actually get a heart attack if they weren't allowed to use RPG skill trees for their characters' problem solving.

>>150352391
Wow, it was a Kannagi-tier shitstorm.

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>I hate isekai, but trust me, THIS ONE is different, it's actually really good
>it's not different

>>150352330
>>150352391
In the light novel the redhead gets raped, in the manga she gets 'raped' by a eunuch, in the anime I don't know as I couldn't stand watching it. Basically the rape was retconned due to her being a waifu, and people complaining in the most amusing way.

>>150352439
Splendid, she's the hot one anyway.
Is the LN's any good, or should I just start on the manga`?

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>>150346874
>literally hundreds of isekai web novels
>a random one gets a manga every month
>this one is good trust me

>>150352311
>as far as isekai go
so, a better than average shit but still shit in a pile of shit?

Grimgar has an interesting premise but apart from involving death, its character development and drama is on a Pokemon level more or less. Just watch the anime and its pretty backgrounds and don't touch the novel, trust me.

>>150348821
I'd put Dungeon Meshi above Konosuba. The source material is a lot better, even though Konosuba is better in anime form (and a dungeon meshi adaptation probably wouldn't do it justice).

>>150349944
Somewhere between good and guilty pleasure.

>>150350809
Variety is the spice of life famalam.

>>150352463
She isn't the best looking girl either, that's Aria.

>>150348821
Depending on where you draw the line between fantasy and not, Mahoutsukai no Yome is also good fantasy. It's set in modern times but otherwise everything about it is fantastic and it's based primarily in mythology.

>>150352419
It does get more interesting when you get to the deeper stuff, like taboo and the system's inner workings. How it's a crappy interface at best made in magical java just for shits and giggles

>>150348151
>anything in this thread
>good writing
Full retard

>>150349063
They use more kanji.

>>150352505

Isekai and Fantasy are separate on the list, I just put one before the other on a whim.

>>150352463
I have only read the manga, I checked out the LN when I looked things up but I just read the difference there. But the series is bad, I dropped it because I read the manga up to as far as it was translated at the time and just didn't care to read the LN or watch for further updates.

>>150352546
>magical Java

But Java is already magic.

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>>150352496
>those fucking titles

Everything other than skeleton knight sounds like hot garbage.

The first two (which I know) are cold garbage, but still garbage in the grand scheme of things. Why can't we get adaptations of stuff like Warashi of the Intellectual Village instead of Issekai Harem #342 ?

>>150352546
The deeper stuff is pretty awful, especially when it starts talking about souls and energy which just straight up fast talking in the hope that nobody notices that none of it makes sense.

>>150348821
No, let me correct you:
>Good Isekai
None
>Garbage
All of them

I just want an isekai with an actual person as the main character rather than a cardboard cutout. Hell, you can even keep everything else.

Cheat ability? Unrepentantly aims for world domination and has to deal with the massive logistical problems that arise from that.

Harem? He fucks them all and creates an actual harem, complete with kids and wives infighting.

Someone unrelated to him in trouble? He doesn't give a fuck. Orders them executed for wasting his time.

Basically, give me a real person's actions and a real look at what the problems arising from the tropes would be.

>>150352583
More like an alchemy experiment performed by bats.

>>150352618
So basically you want an Isekai where Rance drops into a new world.

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>>150352588
We're more like to get Boo Boo first with the Isekai boom. I'm hoping the White Queen and Kyousuke landing top 10 in the kono light novel polls gets Blood Sign an adaptation.
I'm still not giving up hope for a 0-X Office Zashiki Warashi spinoff though, I want more detective.

>>150352618
>wants isekai with actual person as the main character
>goes on to describe ridiculous generic edgelord gary sue #3902482038

>>150352618
edgelord gary stu etcetc

>>150349322
Man in the iron mask + Gladiator + Romeo and Juliet

>>150350376
Overlord doesn't have an overarching plot, it just tries to make every book be fundamentally different within the same framework. Like, there's a novel on being an adventurer, and there's a novel on lizardman sociology, and they're the same world and same overall narrative, and the characters need to do things that sometimes are questionable in order to make that work.

KonoSuba also doesn't have a super big plot, but it doesn't try to, it has the plot elements it needs (mostly character-oriented) and it consistently supplies fun SoL comedy.

>>150352433
Every time

>>150352618
We already that. It's called Gilgamesh or Three Kingdoms.

>>150352618
>actual person
You are describing an edgy psychopath. Go read Re:Monster.

>>150352663
>>150352668
It's interesting how the results of dropping a normal person into an alternate world with a superpower instantly means gary stu.

Henry VIII was a gary stu by /a/'s definition.

>>150351319
>Wheel of Time
>good

Leave this world and never return.

>>150352748
>pulls braid angrily

>>150351274
Malazan Book of the Fallen has a very well thought out magic system. It also doesn't hold your hand though, so it'll take a while to understand what's going on.

>>150352737
>king
>rich
>powerful
>legal harem

Gary stu

>>150348478
>shit talking spice&wolf, konosuba and kino on /a/
the conversation became unsalvageable there

>>150348549
>>150348588
>S&W
>Kino
>popular
literally only on /a/

wuxia is the new big thing in the ln/wn community

the most popular jap lns are shieldbro, mushouko tensei and overlord
anything else like monogatari is only popular because of the anime

>>150352608
Okay yeah i give you the souls thing.

>>150352762
I felt my forehead vein throb

>>150352618
You can't write people if you don't interact with people. These authors quite possibly have no idea how their characters would realistically act facing any given situation in the plot, so they make shit up relying heavily not on real life, but on what they know best - anime tropes. You can't write assertive characters if you don't know any yourself except for your bullies. You can't write romantic relationship if you've never been in one or even seen one up close, and so on.

>Someone unrelated to him in trouble? He doesn't give a fuck. Orders them executed for wasting his time.
I'm sure you'd find a lot of this actually.

>>150352829
>blames men hypocritically
>thinks one of the other two protagonists understands women much better and would know how to deal with this problem

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>>150352463
Keep in mind that this is the same anime where we got pic related.

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>>150349322
Despite the MC being a gary stu I really like him and the story. It just has many elements that I like: Revenge, strategy, sword & sandal, romantic subplot, secret identity.

>>150352869
The only good thing about Wheel of Time is Mat to be honest.

>>150352891
>romantic subplot

HAHAHA

Where?

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>>150346874
Times up Goblin Slayer

>>150352907
Mat is fucking amazing though, him bullshitting his way through everything with a full luck build was fantastic, plus dude ends up married to a brown loli waifu

>>150352801
I don't know if it's because of the the translators or not, but the wuxia/xianxia I've read all have way better readability than jap lns. As in, the sentences flow better and the descriptions are more vivid.

>>150350376
Konosuba is a comedy. It just happens that it has an isekai setting, so it fits on the list.

By the way this is the problem - isekai novels' genre is usually just "isekai" because apart from the MC being overpowered there's nothing else to it.

>>150352801
>the most popular jap lns are shieldbro, mushouko tensei and overlord
And there's them Re:Zeros and konosubas that got popular because of the anime too.

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>>150346874
>Makes thread to promote a manga.
>Doesn't bother to tell us the name.

You're sure doing a good job there buddy.

>>150352866
Like, I would find a lot of this in Isekai or in an actual person in Isekai?

Because, while I have seen it VERY occasionally, the vast vast majority of authors like to have their protagonists to be unambiguously in the moral "right".

Just look at Richard from the Sword of Truth series. Basically a textbook evil character, but the author warps reality so hard to keep him as the "good guy".

If you meant this would happen a lot if you dropped a normal person into an alternate world and gave him a hax superpower, well, yeah. Of course. People kill each other over trivial shit today, when they are infinitely more vulnerable than they would be with legitimate worldhax.

>MC is slightly competent in some field
Gary Stu
>MC is overspecialized in some field and useless elsewhere
Gary Stu
>MC is jack of all trades
Gary Stu
What the hell do you people want? A vegetable?

>>150352496
22 seems like a really fertile premise to do interesting stuff with. I imagine that's not what actually happens, but I like the idea.

>>150352918
Don't deny there isn't one, it's just very slow development. We will eventually get there, we haven't even seen Vileena's reaction to MC's "death" yet.

>>150353004
That's basically Rokujouma.

>>150352994
>Vegetable
>Good against calcium deficiency
Gary Stu.

>>150353004
I'd love to see an anime of 19 even if most people would call it re:monster without being re:monster.

>>150352618
>just want an isekai with an actual person as the main character
Re:Zero does this.

What you've described isn't really how actual people behave, but it would make for a decent isekai anyway, I guess, by isekai standards.

>>150352994

Maybe it would help if a group of girls didn't wet themselves at the first sign of MC's competence EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

>>150352866
>Some employee unrelated to him in trouble? He doesn't give a fuck. Orders them FIRE for wasting his time.
>I'm sure you'd find a lot of this actually.

That's what I find nowadays. So that MC attitude seems to be appropriate. Because you see similar versions of that behaviour all over current society. And 2017 in the USA will make that even more fashionable I bet.

>>150352994
Vegetables are healthy, clearly Gary Stu.

>>150352985
>Just look at Richard from the Sword of Truth series. Basically a textbook evil character, but the author warps reality so hard to keep him as the "good guy".

God, that pissed me off so much. I can't believe how far that series fell. It started off with Richard having to grapple with the fact that his enemies are all people, who have good points and bad points, flaws and weaknesses, and even the guy who's constantly committing child sacrifice for evil magical powers is doing it because he really thinks he's going to make the world a better place. Then six books later he murders a village full of pacifists because they refuse to help him fight his enemies and the series portrays this as an unambiguously good decision from a moral standpoint and everyone who disagrees is evil. And that's not getting into all of the ridiculous mary sue bullshit he does like making a statue so good that everyone who sees it renounces communism on the spot.

I can't believe people are recommending Nidoume. It's fucking garbage, I wish I didn't waste money on the LN. It's one of those series that gets progressively worse and lazy story wise.

>>150352956
His Brown waifu was the only shitty part. Matt bones hot bitches for a while then settles down with a fucking nig.

>>150352994
Everything is a gary stu. Everything.

Your character isn't a 'real character' unless he is a limbless, mute, blind, mentally retarded hobo on the brink of starvation who has been enduring sexual and emotional abuse his entire life. Also, he can't be good at anything, because only gary stus are good at things.

>>150352872
Not the other guy, but which anime is that? Im still a babby so trying to soak as much as I can

>>150352985
You'll find a lot of disposing people the MC doesn't need in web novels. Look for those that have an element of revenge and where MC has slaves/lovers instead of friends/companions.

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>Look up OP's image
>Find this page
Why is her name "Femme Fatale"

This is quickly approaching the realm of lunacy. How do people like this get published.

>>150353101
>not loving Tuon

Tuon is one of maybe five female characters (along with Min, post-development Moraine, post-development Nynaeve, and Verin) that aren't complete and utter cunts.

>>150348913
I actually like Re: Monster

>>150352748
Only if you give me cheat-skills.

>>150347651
>this MC is actually unique.

Everytime.

Belgariad anime when?

>>150353096
>Then six books later he murders a village full of pacifists because they refuse to help him fight his enemies and the series portrays this as an unambiguously good decision from a moral standpoint and everyone who disagrees is evil.

I could understand to a point if they were getting in the way and there was no other option but killing them because they're not helping is just too much.

>>150352233
>reading the manga
>fuck tired of it going nowhere
There's only 13 chapters out, this series is obviously not for you
And I meant Arachne as in half-spider half-human

>>150353144
Lunacy? Have you ever seen names Kamachi comes up with?

>>150353144
le video game world

>>150353153
You may pick a cheat skill or a goddess. Choose wisely

>>150352588
it only gets worse
>(Um, Sorry) I’ve Been Reincarnated!
>Because There Were 100 Goddesses in Charge of Reincarnation, I Received 100 Cheat Skills
>Skill Taker’s World Domination ~ Building a Slave Harem from Scratch
to name a few, all shit by the way.

>>150353004
WN where the protagonist does everyday stuff instead of going on adventures is practically a sub genre of isekai. cooks, manages a store, raises lolies, etc.

>>150352994
most ln mc's aren't gary stus because they're competent, it's because they never lose or face any real challenges.

>>150353192
They're afraid that if they team up with MC and he loses the bad guy will kill them all, so MC kills them all for being too cowardly to fight for what's right. They don't even fucking defend themselves.

Then again, this is a series where two major villains were a husband-and-wife couple composed of a serial rapist who fucks everything that moves and is also ingenious at manipulating and lying to people through cunning speeches, while the wife is an amoral sociopath obsessed with power and murdering everyone in her way. In case you don't get it, their names are literally fucking anagrams of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Like, holy shit.

>>150353144
Alicia Sloppyjoes,
Stephanie Gorgeouspalace.

>>150353296
Cityslicker still is the best name

>>150353296
Flag Eggnogg
Elizabeth Schozzle
I love Kamachi

>>150353236
>>Because There Were 100 Goddesses in Charge of Reincarnation, I Received 100 Cheat Skills
Would be a good one-shot manga.
>>Skill Taker’s World Domination ~ Building a Slave Harem from Scratch
Could be a good porn game or a book/manga about logistics.

>>150353296
BURNING ALPHA

>>150353296
My name is Seawax.
My parents are proud of me.

>isekai with cheat skill: can access 2/4chan at any time and use what he is currently seeing as picture for his post
>constantly asks for advice on what to do in the new world
Would the internet help him or hinder him?

>>150353222
Immortality (both types) przu.

If I lived forever then I wouldn't feel like shit for wasting so much of my life by sleeping 10-16 hours often. Not to mention the ability to slowly and steadily learn and experiment with all types of magic and/or science. I can't imagine a goddess that be worth trading that for.

I started reading OP's manga. It's shit, but it's clean and easy to read, and I like the blonde slut.

>>150353296
From what I recall the nips consider Qwenser's and Heivia's names to be weird but don't mind how silly the others sound.

The language barrier sure is a difficult thing.

>>150353195

Most manga have at least some plot development by the 13th chapter. We still have no idea what is going on besides a girl woke up as a spider inside a cave filled with monsters. It's been 13 chapters of reading about grinding. And while I'm unsure if it's monthly, that might as well be an entire year of nothing happening.

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This isn't very good but I guess it had an interesting idea
>old general dies on battlefield
>college student killed by Japanese truck crossing the road
>both reincarnate inside a child alongside the original soul
>act as backseat drivers

>>150353455
Hero board exists, and according to that, yes.

>>150353138
Ah, I see what you mean.

The problem with those is that they are cutouts in a completely different way. Almost nobody is that much of a reasonless cockbag, either.

Everyone in this thread, if given a world-class superpower and plopped down in medieval fantasy europe, would become a gigantic insufferable cunt. Killing someone for wasting time is obviously extreme, but it's not an unreasonable extreme if you are stressed out trying to make the world a better place (to your mind) and someone comes to you bitching about how your 4-field crop rotation has destroyed their monopoly on linseed oil, and demands repayment NOW.

The fact is, characters in these are badly written because they are either too holy or too evil. There are no shades of grey. Even if a good character (and this is almost always an anti-hero in the first place) kills someone in a fit of rage or mistakenly, it's a huge traumatic event. What really happens in those situations is the person feels bad but then rationalizes the act, then moves on. Because rationalizing is what humans do.

I want an Isekai character who meets his own needs first, then when he rules the world with his invincible harem and assorted children... actually has to start running the world. And not everything he does is the correct move, and he begins finding out that maaaaybe things are like they are for a fair number of very good reasons.

But that would probably just be a giant fantasy version of Mao's great leap forward, and that would be depressing as shit.

>>150353509
Hero board is used by fellow summoned heroes though.

>>150353495
No, they consider his Japanese names weird but think his western names are normal.

>>150353451
Kinky.

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>>150353236

I'm laughing so hard right now.

But I'm also dying inside a little.

>>150353455
there are at 3 WN I know of with this premise, all shit.

if you actually want to find out, just role play some isekai fag on /b/ and see how that turns out.

>>150347132
>le cheat meme
Why do they keep using this term? He's not going into a fucking videogame.

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>>150352496
>My house is magic power spot, just by living there i become the strongest in the world

This is genius, i want to read it

>>150352994
Having any of these without blowing it out of proportion would be a good start. The problem is the authors never seem content to have a guy who is

a) only the third best swordsman in his town (slightly competent)
b) only a talented weaponsmith who might get well known in his country within next 20 years (overspecialized in some field) but has communication problems and needs an assistant to perform basic client handling (useless elsewhere)
c) only a rather average guy who nevertheless learns new things pretty fast (jack of all trades)

Nope, no way sir, you absolutely need

a) a magical warrior capable of taking on lesser gods after a few volumes of eating proper flesh and spending skill points correctly
b) a unprecedented genius improving technologies thousands of years old and developing new ones so mind breaking that nobody even thought about them before while being a bit shy and having attractive women throwing themselves at him nonetheless
c) an unprecedented genius who needs a week to master things his teachers took years if not decades to learn

I just want a human being that is within the 99% of the norm. Fuck, it doesn't even have to be a human being, just let it be within the norm.

>>150353236
>>Because There Were 100 Goddesses in Charge of Reincarnation, I Received 100 Cheat Skills
for what purpose

>>150353630
Maybe they were wasted.

>>150347651
Why is he using a bamboo sword instead of glorious katana?

>>150353106
Stop rehashing your defense of Kirito as not being a gary stu. That very same argument you use was repeatedly used over and over in those past SAO threads. The fanboys and fangirls would not accept that their favorite chars were mary sue type chars.

>>150353630
For shits and giggles. If I were a god I would do it too just to see what happens

>>150353630
Kind of sounds like that one short in Simple Survey only with isekai and reincarnation added onto it.

>>150353702
Kirito is without doubt a gary stu. Sword art is shit and should never have been published.

But that doesn't change the fact that people here over-use the term 'gary stu' and misapply it constantly.

What are some isekais in which the protagonist spends the whole time sperging over the magic system and how to minmax it?

>>150353567
It's a metaphor that's so established it's no longer a metaphor. I can't think of an English example but there's bound to be one.

>>150352496
22 and 23 don't sound like isekai on the face of it

How about a Isekai about a guy living a real shitty unfortunate life moving to another world where he lives an even shittier life but over an entire life of blood, sweat, tears and tax evasion manages to build a house and get a pleasant, kind but slightly poor family ?

>>150353619
>>150353004
This is Polish so not the same, but Stick in the Mud is similar. A guy starts a bar on top of a portal to hell, which allows him access to magic.

>>150353782
kumo?

>>150353690
the angels forbade a sword or something
just read it yourself, 2 translated chapters
for searching use the 3rd page of this manga posted here

>>150353782
Boo Boo, but it takes place after Beatrice has already done that with purely fire magic.
>Using laser cooling on a mass scale

>>150353814
Not enough explosions to be interesting, what fun is Isekai without "Grand Cataclysm Call: Sky Rending Inferno Supernova" ?

>>150353809
23 is isekai. Some dude gets truck'd and his consciousness awakens in the body of a baby after an unfortunate accident, where an old magician find him and adopts him. He learns a lot of stuff from his adoptive grandfather's friends who are actually very important people. But his grandpa never teached him common sense.

>>150353825
How is this comedy webcomic placed in the real world with some demons thrown in an isekai light novel again?

So new Tanaka chapters when?

>>150353919
>we can only talk about the thread's original topic
How is any of this related to OP's shit taste?

>>150353630
>>150353619
>>150353558
>>150353360
you guys are getting too exited, I'm just skimming some of the blatant ones from the ranking list.
the isekai rabbit hole goes pretty deep

>Isekai Yururi Kikou ~Raising Children While Being an Adventurer~
>In a Different World with a Smartphone
>Parallel World Pharmacy
>The Reincarnated Vampire Wants an Afternoon Nap
>I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine
>Cook of the Mercenary Corp
>I’m OP, but I Began an Inn
>The Ability to Make Town!? ~Let’s Make a Japanese Town in Different World~
>It Seems Like I Got Reincarnated Into The World of a Yandere Otome Game

I'm skipping over all the repetitive titles as well.

>>150353752
>But that doesn't change the fact that people here over-use the term 'gary stu' and misapply it constantly.

Some of those people are deliberately misusing the term here in order to wreck the use of "mary sue" altogether. That's their reverse psychology method of defending gary stu characters. If they can wreck the term by overdosing its misuse, then no one will use it. They tried that tactic in the SAO days too.

>>150353972
>>I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine
That probably isn't very different from being a mimic

>29 chapters of Ze Tian Ji to be translated

Nice.

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Let us pray to God for giving us the best comedy fantasy along with Konosuba in the last 5 years.

>>150353945
Translator is slow as shit
Full chapter maybe in a half year or so

Can an /a/non take it over? Tanaka is god tier

>>150354010
Blake-sama is a fighting GOD

>>150354010
I like to call blake the eternal pokerface. His expression almost never changes

>Other World Dining Hall is getting an anime
>LN translations are dead

Why?

>>150353803
The closest you'll get in English is some nebulous concept of The Chosen One, because English YA fiction hasn't quite yet degraded into "the world works just like a videogame" stories being an established set of tropes.

>>150353144
I though that was title or job description rather than name.

>>150354103
>English YA fiction hasn't quite yet degraded into "the world works just like a videogame" stories being an established set of tropes.
ETA until that happens?

>>150349011
I want an Isekai that's all of that except for the first and last parameter.

>lolposter attacks again
At least /a/nons mostly ignored his baits and managed to change OP topic.

I always thought isekai genre is but a form to encourage useless NEET otakus to end themselves hoping to reincarnate into a fantasy world.

>>150354103
>>150354139
It already happened in Russian fiction so it shouldn't take too long until it happens in english too.

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Helck is an excellent fantasy manga currently running. Yuusha ga Shinda! is also pretty fun.

Stop reading Isekai, shit rots your brains out faster than acid.

>>150354168
Some other anon posted that they liked it because it grounds people back to reality for those who hate them, or something like that.

>>150354003
>That probably isn't very different from being a mimic
Except that the author resisted gary stu'ing the vending machine for the longest time. It's still pretty much a vending machine with a few tricks up its sleeve, errr, coin chute.

At least the story is an interesting "new idea" approach although it does still suffer from some "MMO" ailments like having some sort of stat management overlord computer exist and break the 4th wall constantly.

I consider those MMO type stories to be silly since the use of the computer to manage inventory, leveling, and stats is very much breaking the 4th wall. But the author builds that 4th wall necessity into the story.

Is there a Isekai game?

>>150354235
I think it's the opposite. Escapism in it's purest form, no wonder why isekai is so popular among the nip otakus.

>>150348821
What about Drifters?

>still waiting for updates

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>>150354295
>>150354339

>>150354168
>>150354339
Pretty sure the moeshit you watch is escapism too

>>150354424
I would love to see Marche go into every Isekai story, punch their lights out, and bring them back into reality.

>>150354424
Fuck you with a rake Marche, you didn't even question if the world might actually be real.