Blood+ was good. Blood+ live action wasn't terrible.

>>150128045
>Blood+ was good.
Eh.
Blood the Last Vampire was good.
The rest of the franchise is mostly a disappointment.
The BloodC movie at least looks nice, and a few of the manga are, if not good, at the very least readable.

because you touch yourself at night

>>150128175


No, mommy does.

>>150128167


Blood the Last is definately the best of them all.

>>150128045

Blood+ definitely had issues, but I enjoyed the ride, and the ending was about as good as it could have been.

I'm kinda surprised I almost never see Blood+ discussed on /a/. I always assumed it wasn't very popular. I've always liked Blood the Last Vampire and Blood+, but Blood C was pretty disappointing.

>>150128167
Blood the Last Vampire was the best.
Blood+ was good.

>>150128375
Blood C was such trainwreck, people actually like to be reminded just how bad it is.

Would reading Blood+ manga first be a mistake if I haven't watched anything from the series?

I liked Blood the Last Vampire and Blood+. Never saw BloodC after being told to avoid it. That's where that one village massacre gif that was made a banner comes from right? What was the context of that scene?

>>150128045
Blood C was crazy fun

Blood+ was kinda boring, it had too many episodes

>>150128608
>What was the context of that scene?
edge

>>150128045
>Blood+ was good.
Let me guess. You watched it when you were a teenager and haven't re-watched it since because that's the only explanation for your shit taste.
>>150128167
>Blood the Last Vampire LOOKS good.
FTFY. The movie feels like an overly long pilot meant to showcase the visuals rather than spin an actually engaging narrative with memorable characters. It being the best thing in the franchise cements how bad it all is.

>>150128631
>edge
Well they missed that and hit comedy gold.

>>150128737


Don't cut yourself on that edge kiddo.

>>150128776
I rest my case

>>150128045
Blood+ was too long for it's own good, and should have been half as long.

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>>150128045
How anyone can call Blood+ a "good" series is completely beyond my comprehension.

The last 10 episodes, for one, go absolutely nowhere (pretty much everything is set for the final confrontation around episode 41, but they manage to stall until 47 or so) and include multiple instances of things that basically amount to "we could go hunt down Diva, but let's wait until she executes her big plan instead and just sit around this table in our sweet new NYC apartment for a couple months." They also create really ridiculous false drama and/or "revelations" late in the series by making everybody react to certain events in a way that makes absolutely no sense considering the rules of the fictional universe that these characters are all aware of, and then they react in shock when events unfold as you would expect in a universe governed by said rules (see also: everything involving Hagi and Amshel in the last several episodes).

here were storylines that went literally nowhere (the Sciff), a number of characters that the show treated as relatively major characters who served little to no purpose other than to have meaningless sidestories to half-heartedly justify dragging the series out to 50 episodes (Solomon, Van Argeno, Moses, Karman, Carl, James, Okamura, etc.), and an absurd cop-out ending. Not to mention the entire climax is a complete disaster and they don't even address things like the fact that even though they stopped Diva and everything, they still did so only after her broadcast got through to most of the world and, theoretically, turned everyone into chiropterans the way it did in New York City. I guess bombing a landmark in NYC is enough to revert all the human beings elsewhere in the city and around the world back into humans, despite there being no stated way of doing this at any point ever in the previous 48 or so episodes in the series? I'm still trying to figure that one out.

>>150128737
This. Most people who say its good watched it at an impressionable age but the show is downright unwatchasble due to how long and dull it is. Say what you will about Blood-C but it was at least entertaining.

>>150128470
But the gore makes it super mature right guise?????

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>>150128045
Fuck I'm reminded of Trinity blood in from this thread. WHY. WHY DO YOU END A SERIES LIKE THAT?!

>>150128896
And that's not even touching on Saya's complete ineptitude as a heroic protagonist. She goes through the "too scared to fight -> sees horrible things happen to people because she's too scared to fight -> finally resolves to fight -> rinse and repeat" cycle about 9 times (not exaggerating) in the first 15 episodes alone and continues to do so all the way until the time skip. When she comes back, she's intolerable in the COMPLETE OPPOSITE fashion, because there's apparently no middle ground with Saya. And then for the last 10 episodes or so ALL dialogue between Saya and Kai (well, really Kai and just about any character Kai is willing to talk to, honestly) features some variation on "let's all go back to Okinawa and be happy!" Oh, she also spends most of that time bed-ridden and in dismal health, yet she's apparently still capable of fighting the big bad villain even in that state, which makes you wonder why the hell everyone is so scared of Diva and friends in the first place if they feel like they can put all their hopes into a consistently unreliable and emotionally unbalanced invalid.

And the only person in the series more useless than Saya is Hagi. His "fighting style" apparently consists of "take mortal injury, make Saya fight on her own for a while even if she can't, swoop in at the last second to throw a dagger that will mildly irritate an opponent because she's retarded and can't actually do anything for herself even when faced with death." He gets literally zero character growth in the series. He starts the series getting impaled by enemies, being emotionally aloof, relatively silent, and having a creepy infatuation with Saya and ends the series getting impaled by enemies, being emotionally aloof, relatively silent, and having a creepy infatuation with Saya only now he's forced by someone else to say he loves her in order to stop her from killing babies...totally character growth

>>150128896
not to mention that saya is better at the start of the series than at the end, her character UNdevelops

>>150128981
Oh fuck. I'm starting to remember Trinity Blood. I know I don't want to remember the ending, but my brain is working to undo the block on it.

>>150129058
Blood+ Saya is really the worst one just for the sheer frustration of her "development" or lack of thereof because they needed to stretch it out for 50 episodes with so little material to work with.

>>150129107
Otonashi Saya > Kisaragi Saya

/discussion

>>150128045
The worst part of this series is that Kai never got fucking murdered. I hated that that little bastard

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>>150128045
>Blood+ was good

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>>150129232

don't be mean to me, anon

Clamp

>>150128045
>watched Blood+ during airing date
>got tired and dropped it with only two episodes left
it really was way too long. this should've been just a 1 cour anime. 2 at most.

Blood+ is mediocre. It has its moments, but it's incredibly long and slow and boring.
Blood C is a fucking dumpster fire. It doesn't only qualify as one of the worst anime ever made, but also as one of the worst anything ever made.

>>150128045

i found blood+ extremely boring and couldn't watch it past episode 4.
Blooc-C is an extremely funny trainwreck, it would have even been a 7/10 if they didn't made the movie

Still funny thou, the respawn at the end of almost every character killed had me like "WTF dude"

>>150129584
How can someone so moe be a such a cold killer?

>>150128572

Yes, it's very rushed, and unless you know the characters before hand, the whole thing feels janky as fuck in terms of whats actually going on.

Read it after though, it has a somewhat nicer ending than the anime.

>>150128929

It was the opposite for me, actually, when I watched it the first time I was pretty bored, and the only thing I liked about it was the soundtrack. But rewatching it later made me appreciate it more.

It's got problems, no doubt about that, and I can see what you mean by it being dull in parts, but overall I thought it was a pretty solid story and genuinely entertaining, though the latter half was definitely not as good as the beginning.

>>150129676
>Blood C is a fucking dumpster fire. It doesn't only qualify as one of the worst anime ever made, but also as one of the worst anything ever made.
Sup ANN

>>150129676
>Blood+ is mediocre
Nah its just shit. Blood C is the kind of series that didn't have much to it to begin with so they didn't even bother while Blood+ tried so hard to be the next big thing and failed spectacularly by being way too overly long, dull and having shitty characters. I don't know why something like Blood C was made but its production woes is a lot more interesting than anything in Blood+

GTFO you weak shits, blood c was glorious

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>B+ thread

I never thought I'd live to see this again

Diva is best girl

>>150130361
We have them every once in a while.

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>>150130361

> mfw Saya was distraught at Diva dying even though she literally raped her little brother to death

Blood+ was a ride

>>150130517
Little sister > little brother.

I liked the blonde gay man that had the power of fast.

>>150130654
You mean that guy that did nothing?

>>150130654

Wasn't it revealed that he was actually the Chevalier of the mother Chiropteran or something? I was kind of pissed off that in the manga they make him the asshole one even though he was probably the most reasonable and calm person of all of Diva's servants.

>>150130738
>Chevalier of the mother Chiropteran

Not in the anime, he always watched everything from the sidelines and just died because of Diva

>>150128167
>Blood the Last Vampire was good.
>The rest of the franchise is mostly a disappointment.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Saya went from a badass Vampire slayer with a ambiguous origin( at least in the ova) to a whiny school girl who needs a sword to become a vampire slyer and some bishi bodyguard. In fact Saya seems to become more lame and inept with each new Blood series. If they make another one i am expecting "Saya" to be a braindead borderline retarded moeblob , who can barely swing her sword without injuring herself

>>150130877

Really? I thought it was kind of implied through the fact that he talks about 'history repeating itself' and considering he survives a direct hit by Saya and taking in her blood.

At the very least, he was in another league compared to the other Chevaliers that Diva had.

>>150130517
Blood +
>Saya is conflicted about killing Diva and is sad in the end when she dies

Blood: The Last Vampire (Manga)
>Saya's evil twin sister "Maya" is causing her trouble. So she fucking eats her.

>>150131066
>>150130517
And at no point does the show make Diva sympathetic but I guess because she had Riku''s rape children we're suppose to feel sorry for her demise. Jesus Christ everything about this show is fucking stupid.

>>150129107
>>150129232
Nah, C Saya is pure shit. Clamp ruining Blood was annoying.

>>150131123

I can kind of see where the emotion was coming from there, I mean, Diva was her first friend and technically the only blood related family she had, but yeah, after all she'd done to Saya and her family, I can't really ever feel sorry for her.

Though they do make a point in the anime and manga to say that Amshel raised her really warped and until Saya said she was going to kill her, Diva had no idea that what she was doing was considered 'wrong'.

>>150131174
Nope. Hell in the movie she's more badass than Blood+ Saya. Even when Saya decided to go edgy during the timeskip she was still fucking shit.

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>>150131198
Yeah I remember that being said.....in the very last episode after her death.
>Diva had no idea that what she was doing was considered 'wrong'.
You know...dressing up as the guy you raped in front of the people that hate your ass and then taunting them with it goes beyond not knowing right or wrong by then you're just being a cunt

Watched Blood+ years ago so I can't remember shit about it, something about an immortal girl that forgets stuff? Was it focused on action and edgy gore or was it more of a romance? Regardless, I remember it being kinda mediocre.

>>150131215
Nah, the movie is a boring fest of uninteresting gore with Clamp fucking it again introducing their stupid tangled world.
+Saya was consistent in her problems, her relations with people around her, and her own doubts. But I recognize forcinng the 50 chapters lenght was a mistake. But the last scene was heartbreaking.

>>150131286


Which fit her character to a letter really.

>>150131286

Yeah, like I said, it's a pretty weak excuse, but it exists, in Diva's weird ass head she still liked Riku, so cutting her hair like his was probably just a cute idea to her.

Though by the end ((of the anime, anyway)) she does seem pretty aware that she's doing some horrific shit, and just doesn't care.

>>150128896
/a/ has the second worst taste of ANY board out there (the worst goes to /v/).

It's like going on /mu/ and praising the latest Nickelback album as being "okay".

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>>150129584
Just saying how it is.

>>150131340

But the last scene was heartbreaking.

Yeah, I mean, what a crappy trade off, you're immortal and basically invincible, but you only get a few years of being active at a time before having to hibernate for decades.

>>150131340
>+Saya was consistent in her problems, her relations with people around her, and her own doubts
>Saya fight
>No
>Character dies
>I guess I'll have to fight
>Repeat
Add in with the amount of stupid decisions she made throughout the show like giving Riku her blood and trying to "save" an enemy but winded up killing her regardless.
> But the last scene was heartbreaking.
Only if you're a fucking pussy. Everything about that ending was hoaky as fuck

>>150131428

I was about to disagree but now I remember that we unironically like NGE and Re Zero

>>150131340
>the movie is a boring fest of uninteresting gore
Wasn't talking about the movie just Saya in it. And you just described Blood+

>>150131342
i.e. the shit they added at the last minute about her not knowing right or wrong but has a conscience enough to want to protect her babies is a load of shit

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>>150131530

Please don't bully my waifu's anime

>>150131494
>we
So you can't have your own opinion?

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blood C is by far the most narratively interesting of any of the blood storylines

>>150128741
The bunny blender-demon one?

Fuck that was ridiculous

>>150131584
Clamp, pls, go to fix your entire franchise.

>>150131581

"We" as in "board" not as "I'm stupid and whatever people enjoy, I enjoy"

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>>150128045
That's what happens when you leave women in charge. Has clamp ever done anything anyone likes?

>>150128045
>Blood+ was good
You watched it on Adult Swim as a teenager and haven't actually seen it since have you?

Because Blood+ is shit

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I see Saya hasn't protected some of you when the show was airing.

Blood+ had issues but the openings were good 2=3>1>>>4 and the plot felt more holistic and logical. Blood C was a trainwreck but holy shit it was pure fun to watch with /a/ and left more pleasant memories. Also I was clampfag at that time and I was expecting moe Saya and kind other characters that's why that gore felt double ridicules.

>>150132013
Cardcaptor Sakura
xxxHolic
Clover
X
Kobato
I liked Chobits and they were popular back in the days but I don't know how people think of it now

>>150132280
You forgot Angelic Layer.

>>150132308
Yeah, it was good too.

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>>150132280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx1W_EyKWKQ

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The fights in Blood c were pretty good

I seemed to remember that Blood+ had really great OPs and you know what I was right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAO743dXVqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ItZd6-H4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6EwupJYamM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvTBJSZ44zE

(I totally forgot Hyde did OP2. Remember when L'Arc-en-Ciel was the hottest shit ever?)

>>150132460
>>150132280

Season's Call was good but as a whole Colors of the Heart was much better senpai, the OP was brilliant

http://www.productionig.com/contents/works_sp/20_/s08_/000536.html

>>150132545
>Remember when L'Arc-en-Ciel

Ready Steady Go is still the best FMA opening

>>150132545
>Remember when L'Arc-en-Ciel was the hottest shit ever?
Oh, I 'member

dude

bunny blender

lmao

>>150133316
Twin ripping, bro

>>150132280
>and the plot felt more holistic and logical.
>plot holes out the ass
Right...

>>150134519
Just compare it to Blood C with killings left and right while "protection" was going on.

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>>150129232
I respectfully disagree.

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>>150128045

Blood+ is the kind of anime that is so good you wish it were better.

Pacing was indeed off, but unlike a lot of shows, it wasn't exactly a problem with filler where they rush to finally have a plot at the end.

Music was tops, art was excellent, and they had a lot of potential in the plot. Perhaps too much, since they couldn't explore it all.

Imagine if they had had the opportunity to cover the WW1 or WW2 periods, or even Nam.

And you have to give them credit, they didn't just set things in some random artificial city, it was in real places.

>>150130738
>>150130877
>>150130993

Nathan's death was ambiguous, he just fell in a hole.

>>150128045
>Blood+ was good

>>150135300
>Blood+ is the kind of anime that is so good you wish it were better.
What the fuck

So I've watched up to episode 25.
So far it's ok, not terrible but not particularly good either.
Is it worth it to keep watching?

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>>150134833
I always felt that would be an interesting /tg game, you and the other players make some characters and see how long you survive. "Winning" is rare, if even possible but losing is still fun.

>>150132280
>Was a clampfag
>Defending clamp shit
Big suprise.

>>150135757

Nobody gives a crap if crap sucks, but you see something that is able to reach a truly top mark, yet falls short, it actually feels more disappointing.

>>150135300
he was literally diamonds

>>150137081
Even their shit is funnier than generic shonenshit with no progression

>>150130517
>>150131066
>>150131123
I think along of people forget how Saya still has leftover guilt of being the loved sister, and that it could have easily been the other way around, but she never gets to focus on these feelings because overall no way around it Diva has to die.

To me it seemed that the plan for years has been kill Diva and end the conflict, over and over again, but when it finally happens all those complicated emotions come out. It doesn't help that when the babies come up she's forced to see Diva in another light rather than a monster. Which in the end is all she wanted for back in the beginning was to have a close bond with a sister that wasn't demon Hitler.

Also want to point out Saya expected to die there. She probably didn't want to be the one to gain again as the other loses. Diva has found something to give her the happiness she never had and Saya's there at the end of the line ready for death yet fate still chooses her

>>150135855

The ride begins when Diva appears and wrecks havoc, so yes

>>150128045
I liked Blood + as well.

I suppose it's hard for little neo/a/ shitlords to understand it but, in prior years there were lots of good action anime every season. And then the mid 2000s come rolling around and it's more and more gag garbage which evolved into 4koma garbage, which evolved into sol garbage... it was the beginning of a great cancer.

Anime like Blood+ at the time, albeit they're not "good" by the retarded "I watched a couple of shows from that year a decade later so I have an opinion" fuckwit's "standards" they're not bad by any stretch.

I'd watch Blood+ over any LN inspired action shit anime from this year. Fuck, I'd watch it over most anime from this year.

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>>150137081
Why would anyone need to defend a critically acclaimed group of comic artists to you, you little inbred shit? They've been moving the industry along since before you were an accidental discharge in your ugly moms disgusting vagina.

>>150137520
But nobody gave a crap about Blood+ either. The show had freaking Hans Zimmer as a composer and Aniplex put so much effort into bringing an assortment of popular bands into the OP and EDs, was on a very popular primetime timeslot in Japan and the show winded up being a dud sales and reception wise. Won't even bother telling you how it did in the US given no company has license rescue it due to Sony being bitches or lack of interest but there's a reason why you don't see Blood+ ranked on all time best anime of the 00s.

>>150139161
>I think along of people forget how Saya still has leftover guilt of being the loved sister, and that it could have easily been the other way around, but she never gets to focus on these feelings because overall no way around it Diva has to die.
Except the show doesn't dwell on this aspect at all because throughout the anime she had no reason to feel anything towards Diva at all and essentially feels nothing but hate for her after what she did to Riku. If the show really wanted you to make you feel anything for Diva they did a really piss poor aspect at it so you can't help but say "fucking really?" when Saya has that reaction to killing her.

The rest of what you wrote is fanfiction. This show leaves a lot of holes and doesn't capitalized on key aspects that are important to the story. Why it gets so much slack when its just as flawed as Blood-C I have no clue.

>>150134833
There's not really much holes in Blood-C because there's not much story in it to begin with. It feels like something that was done on a napkin during lunch that relied solely on Clamp's name to trick retards into buying it well unsurprisingly enough it didn't work.

>>150140346

Nah that's confusing ratings with reactions.

Crap can get huge sales and revenue, but nobody expects anything of it. They just gripe a bit that Shit is selling so well, and move on to the next shiny thing. But people who look at Blood+, some of them see where it could have been polished a bit, and feel worse about it.

And Blood+'s biggest sin is that it's not in HD, and yet not old enough we forgive it for that. Lots of shows fall in that gap. And unlike One Piece, nobody is going to pay to re-animate any of it.

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>>150139954
If you're gonna use any anime to soapbox over you can do a better job than a fucking Blood+, a multimedia project that got used the success of other popular entertainment to sell its own shitty product , because its no different from the shit we get nowadays. In fact the writing quality of Blood+ is about the same as a shitty Otome LN.

>>150140799
>But people who look at Blood+, some of them see where it could have been polished a bit, and feel worse about it.
Nope because people don't even look at it to begin with. Most time you see Blood+ get discussion are from people who watched it years ago

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reminder this is the queen you should defend

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>>150132545
>hans zimmer
NANI

>>150129584
>shit show, shit character, perfect waifu design

>>150140799
Reactions from Blood+ is that its neither good enough nor bad enough to be remembered i.e. much like every installment of the franchise after the original. Its biggest sin is that so much talent couldn't dish out a better product and being in HD isn't really going to make it a better experience. One would think I.G. would get on releasing it on BD by now but after the failure of Blood-C they pretty much shoved the franchise entirely.

>>150140965
Still better discussion than anything else on this board.

>>150141163
Blood the Last Vampire isn't really that good either, at least from a purely subjective sense. It's story is barely there and all it has to it's name is being made by a famous writer and some above average animation. It's a generic 80's OVA made 15 years later when they weren't flooding the market, and got released on SyFy when anime was getting big in the west. For all this talk about Blood+ being shit and fans being nostalgia blind, it's fitting because it's only continuing the tradition set by the original.

>>150139954
>Blood + over 3-gatsu lion
>Blood+ over Girlish number
>Blood+ over Drifters
>Blood+ over Hibike! Euphonium
>Blood+ over Occultic Nine
>Blood+ over Fune wo Amu
>Blood+ over Natsume Yuujinchou
>Blood+ over Flip Flappers
>Blood+ over Shuumatsu no Izetta
>Blood+ over Tiger Mask W
>Blood+ over Haikyuu!
You just a nostalgiafag. Blood+ is pretty meh, even this season alone has more to suggest to you.

>>150140965

Obscurity is a different problem. There's tons of shows that get buried under the weight of years.

But hell, people wouldn't even know it if it wasn't part of the Blood franchise.

Still different from the examination of it.

>>150128045
I vaguely remember watching it many years ago but nothing about it. It must have not been that good, then.

>>150141163

>Its biggest sin is that so much talent couldn't dish out a better product

Exactly the reaction I'm talking about.

>being in HD isn't really going to make it a better experience

Better? No, but it means that the beancounter is going to pass on it.

>>150141527

Now's your chance to watch it again!

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>>150141134
>perfect waifu design
Couldn't agree more, shame it was wasted on this anime. Maybe if they do a Blood+ sequel with Diva's kids they might use the Blood-C Saya design for them. only question then is, which flavor? Red or Blue?

Sure are a lot of samefags this thread.

>>150141394
>Blood the Last Vampire isn't really that good either,
I agree entirely.. Its just a showcase of what animation could accomplish through digital processing which at the time was a feat in itself but now doesn't look impressive and since the story is not even there what's the point in getting invested in it. Its ironic that the more they try to put into the backstory into the series the worse it becomes.

>For all this talk about Blood+ being shit and fans being nostalgia blind
People will always wank off Blood The Last Vampire due to its pedigree while most everyone has forgotten about Blood+. Blood-C will be remembered by everyone's overreaction to it as the "worst anime ever" so to a lot of people the franchise started and ended with TLV..

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>>150141661

Clones man, clones!

>>150141064
Japan used to shelf off money to Western musical talent in the mid 2000s for whatever reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcNxnY0TgmM

As a rare known example.

What always bugged me about the series above all else, was the fact that you literally could not kill the fuckers without the blood. Like they regenerate almost from nothing....That's bullshit if I incinerate you, you shouldn't regen...

>>150143599
Anything to make the main character more special...

>>150139954
Are you actually seriously trying to be nostalgic for Blood fucking + of all things?

Like really?

I mean I guess the one thing I can say is good about this is that the "things were better back then" faggots is that as the years go by they're finally upgrading from the 90s to the early 00s but holy fuck, couldn't you have at least picked something that wasn't a total bomb and shit

>>150128045
>Blood+ live action
What?

Anyone have that pasta criticizing the Blood C movie?

>>150145290

Probably just somebody confused, as the movie was technically from the OVA plot.

>>150128045
>blood+ was good

It ran for like 52 episodes or something, one of the last anime series to do it, but instead of making full use of that time, they kept dragging it on with pointless scenes.

Saya from the movie was turned into a moe blob that couldnt defeat a single named character in the anime. There was so much wasted potential with it.

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Has anyone read this?

>>150128045
Never realized there was so much hate for Blood +

>>150150270
It's not hate, people are just not impressed with it

>>150128045
Blood + was the original trainwrecker. A masterpiece for future generations to enjoy.

>>150150270
Same here. Is like with FLCL, I have loved it since the very beginning back when fansubs didn't even existed, and nobody talked about it on /a/ so I just assumed everyone liked it, till the second season got announced and everyone started calling it shit, big surprise for me.

>>150150931
They call FLCL "shit" for the same reason they do Cowboy Bebop "shit". Its popular. Blood+ is legit shit though.

Remember being pretty excited for this coming off " The Last Vampire " only to be massively let down by this version of "Saya" and the Chiroptera aren't even scary in this one.

>>150131123
Why wasn't Riku killed in the manga?