Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1741

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If you can't read this you cannot learn Japanese

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Ｋｙｏｕ ｍｏ ｉｃｈｉｎｉｃｈｉ ｇａｎｂａｒｕ ｚｏｉ！

Sure is meme central up in here

>>149838187
駄目ですけどねえ

>>149838107

It's literally too small to read

少々お待ちください

>>149838437
塩を少々入れてください

>>149838519
私は少々ゲイ

>>149838774
「昭々ゲイ」書き間違えた？

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よし、お疲れ様でした！先のスレにブラジルの話を誰もが上せられなかった！コッコッコッコンボブレーカー！

>>149808192
入る actually has a lot of meanings and usages that go beyond what you'd be taught in a classroom or easily learn from an anki deck. For instance, if you were to ask a friend how many people were staying with him in a hotel room, this would probably be the most common verb to use.

I'd have to see the exact context to really give you good information, but it could be a specific situational expression that doesn't line up too well with english understanding of the verb. It could also mean something like, put the [belongings into our hands] and then put them away [into our posession]. Note how it's a te-form verb attached to another verb. I'd suspect the taking part mostly comes from usage of しまう rather than 入る. In this way, 入る could be completely detached from the meaning of "take their shit" and just mean to say that they have to go get it before taking it.

Do you have context you can provide instead of describe? Like, a timestamp from a show or an excerpt from the writing?

>>149838856
上手。盗みます

You will not pass the jlpt
You cannot even read Yotsubato

>>149838856
少々大量に爆笑

>>149839068
holy moley

>decide to download maison ikkoku
>161gb torrent
>1.6gb per episode
I hope it's good

>>149839474
i mean its a bangin production from the creator of anime herself rumiko takahahashi how can you go wrong

>>149839474
>1.6gb per episode

Why?

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>>149839516
Why are you here so often now

ゴーアウェイ

>>149839567
1440x1080 with FLAC audio

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>>149839623
why are you here so often always

ゴーアゲイ

>>149839844
Definitely the guy who is just here to shitpost about learning mandarin

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Well, what does it say?

>>149840018
the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>149840018

wtf, where is the furigana? This isn't like my manga at all...

>>149840018
*adjusts reading glasses* well that right there would be a textbook case of chinky chongs

>困った様子に見える
Why not が見える yo?

>>149840184
the same reason as in 私に似てる（大馬鹿）

>>149840184
Because it's saying that the unstated subject appears to be in a troubled state, not that a troubled state is visible.

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>Used to post on here as a retard known as "DQfag"
>Still a retard
>Still playing DQ
>Got lazy with my 'studies' because DQ7 and Builders got localized + school
>Try again to learn japanese
>Finally get past the Kana wall, now working on grammar and vocabulary.
>Figure I'll just play my imported DQ1 to practice reading and finding new words.
>Come across the following word(?)
>なかにすすみ
>According to Jisho it isn't a word or anything really
>Know it's the right kana because I double checked using a script I found of the game on gamefaqs.

Here's the full phrase from the NPC
「いらっしゃいませ。
　　なかにすすみ　つくえ　ごしに
　　はなしかけてくださいな。

So what the fuck is "Nakanisusumi"?　Is jisho just shit? If so what's an alternative?

ください

>>149840312
according to my sources, "nakinasusumi" means "the pleasure of being cummed inside"

>>149840312
holy shit we dont need your life story also nintendo games really are hard arent they bless your heart

>>149840312
Could it be... 中に進み?

As in, 中に進んで、机ごしに話しかけて下さい

>>149840312
"なかにすすみ" is actually composed of a lot of words.
菜= rape
カニ= crab
進み= progress
So, it roughly translates as "The rape crab's progress".

>>149840445
well now that you use kanji everything suddenly makes sense thank you

the scales have fallen from my 目玉s

>>149840510
There's no crabs in the game only scorpions is that good enough to progress?

>>149840510
カニ子ちゃん・・

>>149840542
Hmm. Probrably not. Maybe the NPC was talking about a certain item? Maybe it's the rape crab. Who knows.

>>149840510
Are you sure it's not 菜蟹巣隅？
As in "the corner of the rape crab's nest."

面白いやついねええぇぇぇぇぇえぇえぇぇぇえ

>>149840312
Retards should be rangebanned for this sort of shit, as they are clearly too fucking obnoxious to lurk and learn. Fuck me.
Fuck off.

>>149840262
>>149840277
So it's like ように見える

>>149840665
ok

>>149840675
That and every other case of に見える

>素敵
>素 - Naked 敵 - Foe
>lovely, dreamy, beautiful, great, fantastic, superb, cool
What a beautiful word.

>>149841288
当て字だけどな

Is it a bad idea to do all your new cards after all your review cards? Or does it not really matter?

>>149841388
Yes, it's a bad idea. No, it doesn't really matter.

>>149841388
It's easy mode as you won't be mixing new cards with old. So you'll have a pile of x amount of cards you know are new which limits how well you need to know them to recall the meaning.

Beginner: New cards after reviews
Normal: New cards before reviews
Hard: Mix new cards with reviews.

>>149841440
>>149841527
Well fuck that I don't want easy mode. I thought this shit was a lot easier after changing that. What's the point of learning Japanese if you don't struggle through every single part of it?

めちゃくちゃうんこしたけどまだうんこしたい気がする

>>149841645
食用繊維が大事ですもんね

>>149840018
cave of tengu

tengu, since a long time ago in japan are deeply connected to mountain word. something mountain fuck the rest of this shit.

cave of tenga

>>149841321
それなのに素敵に素敵な意味が有る。素敵だね。

>>149816930
What's 森見登美彦's best book?

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ok, I got a text file from Jade Reader with all the vocabulary.
How do I export it into anki with the proper front-back format?

If you wish to identify something and ask a question like 「そこになにが。。。」, would most japanese default to using ある or いる, for example not knowing if a cat or an object made a noise in the other room?

>>149843575
why cant the noise itself be the question?

>>149842533
Send the file to your desktop.
Divide the rows into tabbed spaces.
Each row represents a card and each column in that row lines up to represent a given field.
Import it into your deck and assign the fields accordingly upon the import screen.

>>149841607
>Well fuck that I don't want easy mode.
Why?
>What's the point of learning Japanese if you don't struggle through every single part of it?
What's the point of banging your head against the wall if you can open it by turning a handle instead?

>>149843626

Of course you could formulate differently and bypass the whole issue, but my question pertains to verb prioritization if one must employ the sentence structure in my example.

>>149843756
ok then lets assume that most inanimate objects arent the cause of a lot of noise
if you are so intent on forming a question like
*noise*
'what kind of [living or non living] object created that noise???'

>>149843938

You seem to avoid the question rather than answering it. An object falling from a countertop could be a cat's fault or simply happenstance from it teetering on the brink.

Now if I want to ask the question in my example, non-verbally implying that I'm asking if it was an object on its own or if it was the cat's doing, which one would the average japanese person default to?

>>149843716
What a terrible analogy.

>>149844223
i dont know, ask imouto
but that sounds like two questions now

>>149843680
the problem is, there are more than 800 words
isn't there a script or something?

>>149844223
If your hypothetical japanese person thought that a living object made a noise, and wanted to express concern over the fact:
なにかいる？
If your hypothetical japanese person thought that a non-living object made a noise, he would not say そこなにがある？ and he probably wouldn't even say そこになにかある？ because neither of those sentiments make any sense. You can set aside the japanese and consider whether our average human being would even think to ask the question "What is over there?" in response to a noise.
A hypothetical average japanese person would just say something along the lines of その音なに？ and be on with it.

Your scenario is pointless. If you want to know more about ある vs いる then ask about that, don't get pointlessly hypothetical about language. It's something that only exists in practice.
If we boil your question down to "is ある or いる preferred when you have positively no clue who or what the subject is" then the answer is neither. You'd say something that doesn't involve ある or いる, because in that case you don't have a reason to use either of them to begin with.

Today I only did 70 minutes of anki and watched one episode of drama
Now I will add the 30 words I collected today

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>>149844733
>Today I only did 70 minutes of anki

a place for flashcard addicts

>>149844695

Ok thanks that pretty much answer my question.

So my anki realtime import suddenly stopped working today, when I press R nothing happens. Already tried reinstalling the anki extension and updating rikaisama, but no luck. It's probably firefox fucking with me, does anyone know how to fix it?

>>149844839
Worked pretty well desu m8
Only half of it was my vocab deck

>>149845068
What was the rest of it?

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I want DJT to stop being the anki tech support general

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DQfag here, no more bullshit. I got Anki installed and I'm ready to grind.
Remember me, I will return and I will be hopefully less retarded.

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おはようおにいちゃん

おなかすいた

さといもたべたい

>>149845132
Listening
It's all Mandarin

>>149842112
I'm not the person you're responding to, but I've read both 四畳半神話大系 and 有頂天家族. His voice as a writer in both is excellent and highly enjoyable, it seems like he'd be the type to not really have bad works. Though be warned, he's not afraid to use difficult vocabulary and complex sentence structure, so I wouldn't really start out with him unless you're trying really really hard to learn something.

>>149845175
Jesus Christ how desperate are you to be recognized? Might a suggest a place where you can display a nickname such as reddit?

>>149845160
same

>>149845197
その前に運動しろ

>>149845175
whatevs

>>149845029
>>149845160
Please help me so I can resume reading my porn without feeling guilty whenever I don't mine a word

>>149845681
You can display a nickname retard.

>抽送
What is this word? It doesn't show up on jisho, but it has to be a word.

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>>149845197
おはようわがいもよ

四月は君の嘘を少し見てみたけど
１話の途中で諦めてつい消除しちまった

今は再びダウンするかしないか迷っている

どう思う

>>149845798
Tripfags aren't people. They are worse than animals, do not encourage tripfagging.

>>149845847
try google

>>149845852
ききとれなかったの？

音楽用語がぜんぜんわからなかったの？

つまらなかったの？

>>149845931
強いて言えば

愛を感じなかった

>>149846107
キャラは薄いよね

背景はとってもいいよ

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>>149846144
行きたい

Is there a way to have Anki bug you with desktop notifications? I tend to have hard time keeping atop daily personal commitments and a small reminder would help.

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>>149846238
why does anki have to do that and not about a thousand other programs that would until you opened it?

>>149846238
How do you forget the most critical part (for the first couple months) of a multi-thousand hour hobby you have decided to take up

>>149846327
Think of it like a fatty trying to lose weight. They start out with strong vigor but 'stuff' happens and suddenly their treadmill becomes a coat rack.

>>149846419
as someone whose lost 60kg, thats a terrible analogy
exercise is almost pointless

>>149846544
How'd you do it? Forgetting to eat?
That's how I did it, that and just walking everywhere.

>>149846610
>Forgetting to eat?
i read about using food to manipulate your sleeping cycle to the point where i created a sleep debt around a large dinner period
then slept through the pain of my stomach shrinking

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I wanted a different DJT. Maybe they can merge them, since he's going to make anime real?

>>149846210
>all those cables crossing at such a low height
>a truck passes by
>everyone is out of internet, power and telephone

>>149846728
That's a complicated way of saying you starved yourself. The only way you could make it more complicated is speaking japponese

>>149846751
did i ever tell you what the j in donald trump stands for

>>149846544
I actually lost 10kg in 3 months by doing 1h of treadmill everyday. 10kg was the difference between fat and normal for me, mostly because my 手足 don't get any fat so it was 10kg of man-boobs and flacid belly. Which are back by the way.

Anyway, exercise isn't pointless, unless you are a fag who thinks doing it 2 times a week is something to be proud of. His analogy is fair enough.

>>149846779
>軽トラ
anon...

>>149846856
japanese

>>149846927
au contraire my ninja

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>>149846856
Yay!

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>>149844421
help pls
I don't want to deal with 700 words manually
And I know shit about scripting

>>149846870
you can eat that hour of treadmill a day back in a few snacks
it works because people feel worse for overeating and exercising at the same time. Your 10kg loss was the result of a lack of energy intake, not a barely increased daily output.
でも、この議題は日本語じゃない

でも、私はゲイ

>>149847073
Install gentoo and you can do the whole thing with a single command

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>>149847073

>>149846210
３月の２５日から２８日くらいかな

にほんはそんな景色だよ

おいでよ

けしきは無料だよ

>>149847237
余計のことを作るな

ネットで一人称は俺
だがリアルで俺は「僕」としか言わない
ｗ

>とにかく、彼の後を追いつつ出口を探そうじゃないか
What's going on with 追いつつ? I imagine he is saying something like "before/while(?) we catch up with him (who went on ahead), let's search for the exit". Can't figure out what the fuck is 追いつつ though.

>>149847520
つつ is a literary version of ながら. It means the same thing but it's not usually used in 口語.

>>149847369
誰も気にしてない

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>>149847313
航空券が無料でさえあれば

>>149847369
俺も
ここだけ僕って超反発する

>>149847593
ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>149847562
i saw a video once where a girl kept using つつ and つつも
it sounds pretty funny

>>149847562
Thanks mate.

>>149847632
わん・うぇい・ちけっと

で、いっちゃえ！

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>>149847632
ことしの春ににほんで会いましょう

あのんの人生の物語が

始まるよ

i'm going to japan to film a documentary about imouto

>>149848177

Be sure to go through Croatia on the way to grab some footage ofhim then, since that's where he lives.

>>149848486
>imouto
>he
That would be otouto (弟), you dekinaiko

>>149849583

Go back to watching pewdiepie newfag.

なんでここの住人はこんなにバカなのか

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>>149849672

how many new words should I be learning a day in anki? currently i have it set to 15

～～～～このラインの下にスレ再開（面白いカキコだけ認める）～～～～

>>149850164
Just find a number that works for you.

>>149850164
As much as you can or whatever suits you
15 words a day is about 5.5k a year.

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今日はラノベ５ページ読んでそれ以上勉強しなかった

おやすみ

>>149850164
as much as it takes to sate your flashcard addiction

right now i have mine set to dispense 110 per day

judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the amount of flash cards he glimpses in a day

>>149850164
Assuming anki is your main method of study:
10: You'll learn Japanese at the pace of classes, but without the writing/speaking/listening practice
20: Normal. You want to start reading moege-tier stuff within the year
30: Fast
50+: You should probably be spending more time outside of anki
50+ and spending more time outside of anki: People will not believe you when you tell them how long you have been learning

Are there any manga with digital text or transcriptions?

how do i use a texthooker with manga

ここに住むｺｷﾘ族はひとりひとりが自分だけの妖精を持っていました。

What exactly does the だけ do in this sentence?

>>149850735
>20
>moege-tier stuff within the year

what sort of unholy anki worship is this
there's no way you need a year of grinding fucking core to be able to read hanahira
in fact there's no way grinding core even minutely affects your ability to read
I never even touched anki in terms of vocab and I've read 3 LN volumes this year

>>149851430
hi kastel how do i learn japanese

>>149851430
Enjoy taking your dictionary everywhere and using it for every second word

>>149851415
"only"
everyone had a fairy all to himself

自分だけの妖精
fairy of only me

>>149851508

Thanks, that's what I thought because I'm familiar with OoT already but I didn't really understand grammar of it.

私はゲイ妖精

>>149851566
同様

>>149851500
it's getting ready to be 2017 and you say that like some kind of passive-aggressive dig at my vocabulary

as if using anki somehow means you no longer need to use a dictionary while reading

you'd be surprised how many words you can pick up without touching anki, and if you weren't just in shameless denial then you'd also be surprised to learn how easy it is to use a dictionary in the present day and age

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>>149851616
What does being close to 2017 have to do with anything?

>you'd be surprised how many words you can pick up without touching anki
Yeah but you can pick up significantly more just by doing a little anki every day.

>you'd also be surprised to learn how easy it is to use a dictionary in the present day and age
But not having to use a dictionary is probably easier

>>149851430
>within the year
Doesn't mean you have to wait till the end of the year. Also, by moege level stuff I meant more average stuff rather than hanahira and yotsuba

>I never even touched anki in terms of vocab and I've read 3 LN volumes this year
I hope you don't think that's a lot.

>there's no way you need a year of grinding fucking core to be able to read hanahira
Well 20 a day is not exactly a lot of time studying.

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>>149851566

それではポケットにゲイ妖精が入れたい

>>149850735
>People will not believe you when you tell them how long you have been learning
This is a problem I found, I ended up just lying and adding an extra year onto the time because no one believed me otherwise, normal people are too used to university-tier 3 years for Genki pace.

>>149851703
ノーウェイ女性

>>149851738
Especially when they are surprised you know kanji. They expect you to only be able to use hiragana for the first 2 years of your studying

>>149851660
>not having to use a dictionary
this doesn't happen
it doesn't even happen with books written in english
besides do you really think not encountering new words while reading is a good thing?
don't fool yourself with the notion that anki is teaching you words. you learn words through context, all anki does is help you remember them

>>149851688
using "within the year" to mean "as soon as possible" is in all honesty your mistake
I slack off on reading and you can be sure I'm not complacent about it
anki I find frankly unhelpful though so I'm stuck shitposting here instead of studying

>>149851769
pros to 2 years of hiragana usage you dont end up like this guy >>149840312

cons 2 years is a realy long fuckin time

>>149851841
>you learn words through context
I'm not fooled desu. I have example sentences for context. Even if you don't think that's enough, when I do encounter the words in their native text I will be able to pick them up extremely quickly.
At the end of the day the person who had been doing anki will be much further in terms of vocabulary than someone who hadn't been.

Also is your shift and caps lock button broken or something

this just in if you do something as opposed to not you will become more experienced at thing

>>149851890
Your experience in this thread will be improved twentyfold if you ignore every post without capital letters.

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>there are people who actually think that anki for a few thousand words followed by continued use for hard to read words and words with new kanji is not the fastest way to get into a language.

>>149851890
example sentences aren't context
context is what you can thank when you know what a word is without looking at the kanji long enough to register anything but the physically largest radical

also somehow I can't shake the feeling that a good 90% of the words I actually look up are missing from core
at this point it's probably not worth it for me to go back to anki unless it's for mining
I'm not going to build up the willpower for that anytime soon, though

>>149852042
そもそもそれ日本語じゃないからな
見ればわかるだろ？
それにいくら読んでも四ヶ月だけで上手くなることはないからそういう基準おかしくない？
自分もできないことを他人から求めるのは理不尽だと俺は思うよ
後お願いその大文字なんとかしてくれ

>>149852153
彼は明らかにただの厨房じゃないか
なんで真面目に返事するの？
あんたのポストを全然わからないかもしらないのに

>>149852082
Before you can really know a word, you have to go first through the phase of just recognizing it as a word, knowing it's approximate meaning, and learning its reading. These things do not really require context, and this is what anki is extremely efficient for. It is just important that you realize what you are going for. Don't use anki with the intention of groking the soul of the word, just realize you're spamming words so that you are acquainted with them and can actually acquire them more easily through reading

>also somehow I can't shake the feeling that a good 90% of the words I actually look up are missing from core
Core 10k covers quite a bit, not that I would recommend actually doing the whole thing. Of course you'll have to learn the lexicon of whatever medium you're reading, especially slang type stuff, but the first 4k or so words of Core should give close to 90% coverage

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>>149852153
きたきたきたきたきたｋｔｋｒ
降臨

How much time is too much time with anki.
Usually I have a little less than ~200 reviews while only 10 new cards a day. It feels like way too much review time for such a low number of cards.

Which gets me to this point :

>>149841527
My configuration is 'Mix new cards with reviews'. I'm not into the whole beginner normal hard, but does this really matter in the grand scheme of things ? aka do you learn as well doing new cards after reviews than mixing them.

I'd like to go back to 20 new cards a day...

>>149852082
>context
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect

Literally an example sentence.

>>149840018
Have you ever tried reading vertical text in the horizontal position and found un/intentional words or small sentences?

>>149852207
I read 男子高校生の日常 at some point. It was pretty chill. I was hoping there would be more to the manga than there was in the anime desu but I had forgotten most of the jokes so it was still enjoyable.

>>149852234
>I'm not into the whole beginner normal hard, but does this really matter in the grand scheme of things ?
It really shouldn't matter.

>Usually I have a little less than ~200 reviews while only 10 new cards a day. It feels like way too much review time for such a low number of cards.
It is too many, sounds like you have low retention. Either you need to do a bit of kanji study (just paying more attention to the kanji when doing your vocab cards may be sufficient) or you're doing absolutely nothing but anki.

If it's that bad honestly just give up on anki for a bit, and try doing pure reading. Or just drop core and do pure mining for a bit. Anki clearly isn't being efficient for you so I think you're better off just reading until you're more used to the language.

>>149852241
if you in all good faith believe an example sentence is adequate context then hey presto hats off you're a winner
don't see why i should convince you otherwise

>>149852386
An example sentence or 6 is more than enough to get a grasp on the meaning of the word

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>>149852346
Anki graph for contextual purpose.

>>149852404
maybe the loose and feeble grasp of a sedated koala

>>149852445
Then I take note of the definitions and wait until I encounter it again while reading :V)

>>149852464
6x stronger grasp than seeing it once while reading

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>>149852440
>700 relearns on day 29
Anki will get a lot quicker if you don't forget the cards.

>>149852482
thats the thing when you see it while reading you have a lot more than 5 words on either side of the one in question to clue you in to its meaning and usage
that's what context means and that's why an offhand sentence or six do not qualify for context

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jamals a honest to god mondaiji

粗茶ですが

川
旦

>>149851769

>hiragana for the first two years of studying

You can learn Hiragana in a week, easy. There's only 75 characters.

Using Hiragana alone for the first fortnight, maybe if you're really pushed for time the first month, of studying the language is acceptable. After that you need to start drilling kanji.

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Mining 20 words everyday is a pain in the ass but it really gets me to read everyday.

>>149851616

Psychology graduate 笑わないでくれ

Repetition has been demonstrated to be the key to learning new information, Anki is the most efficient and effective means of learning.

This retard is literally 12.

>>149852711
I mine more words than I can even do, sometimes I have to slow down otherwise it gets out of control

>>149852754
>Psychology graduate
ワロタ

>>149852785
:stopbully:

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Not sure what happened but I ain't complaining

>>149852797
I really should just read newspaper articles and get tons of new words to learn, but instead I've been reading スイようび

オナニーやった後は落ち着きました

>>149852980
下品な話はお慎みください

>>149853064
断固反対っす

>>149852980
己の男性器は落ちてしまうよオナニーしてばかり者

>>149852898
御目出当！

>>149853173
日本語はよくわからんがどこかで何か変だという感じを持ったと思うぜ

>>149853299
多分吾輩は新米ですからね

>>149853448
そっすか私は新ゲイ

Anki's so shi

りかにかんむりをたださず

かでんにくつをいれず

>>149853802
死？そうですね。。。つかれった！

漢字難しいよぉぉぉぉぉ！

>5002348円待ち歩く少女www
I tried to read the numbers and came up with this: 五百万二千三百四十八 if I got it right then numbers are one of the easiest part of japanese

>>149854590
The system is simple, the 4-based division is where things go awry.

>>149854590
Numbers are simple enough, but counters are beyond retarded.

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>>149852263

>>149854938
Truth

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>>149854590
まずカンマは３桁で振るよ

２個目のカンマが百万の区切りって覚えてね

がんばっておにいちゃん

>>149852263
Whenever the kanjis line up neatly, I do. Like in >>149854938. But the example ou quoted has different vertical alignment, so I can read without being tainted.

>>149855038
Yo. I kind of prefer the 4-digits comma usage but that was a quote from another dude anyway and I just wondered if I read the number correctly
Sorry for not replying in japanese, I'm too newbie for that

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>彼は歌で自分の気持ちを表現した

>have an exam today, can't really predict my grade
>fire up Anki
>first word is 滑る, to slip, to flunk an examination
t-thanks

>>149855466
he expressed himself through song

>>149855523
What you thought you were only できない at Japanese? You're できない in every aspect of life bro

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>>149855466
Kare (wa) - (about) him,
Uta (de) - (by means of) singing, he did the following:
Jibun (no) kimochi - (his) own feelings
Wo - direct object KIMOCHI is affected by the following:
Hyougen(shita) - express(ed).

Does this help?

>>149855566
>>149855711
It's an Anki card, newfriends.

>>149855766
>refers to the Core deck as "Anki"
>calls other people newfriends

Is there an anki graph add-on that shows your % correct each day for the month? Like those blue/green/red/black lines.

>>149856014
Nope

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>Tfw slow at doing reps

>>149852000
>>149852440
These people do 400-500 cards in 40 mins, while I can only do about 180 in the same time.

Slow and steady wins the race right?

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>>149856099
Gotta go fast

>>149856099
At least you are learning something. They aren't.

Please translate

コメありがとーごさいます！
リゼロで一番好きな娘です

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もっとはやくして

>>149856099
I like taking breaks as well, anon.

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>>149855766
I know, but what does it have to do with the discussion? One can learn some grammar from reading Anki sample sentences.

>>149856294
い、いやらしい～

>>149856294
帰る！！！

>>149856205
Learning how to be a slow loser

>>149856307
ロリをおこせないな,,,

Help me understand how から works with this example

>from https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%96%93#.E5.AD.97.E6.BA.90

門の間から月の光が差し込んで「間｣という意味を表したもの

I know they mean the light gets put into the space in the gate but I typically read から as 'from'. I guess it really isn't ambiguous because you can't '差し込む' out of something but could you use に anyways? What if it were a sort of verb that could imply either direction, would you then use から for 'from' and に for 'to' or would there be some ambiguity?

>>149856099
>>Tfw slow at doing reps
Doing 400 reviews in 40 minutes is as easy as simply failing any cards you cannot pass within 6 seconds.

>>149856477
What if I want to learn?

>>149856515
If you wanted to learn you'd be reading not doing Anki

>he fell for the Anki meme

>>149856099
>Slow and steady wins the race right?
Hello, fellow turtle, I take 1 hour to do my daily 200 or so reps.
I'm 11 months in, and doing great progress.

All in all, steady wins the race - whether it's slow or fast. But not everyone can go fast, so just enjoy the ride.
Many daredevils will be juggling some overlapping knowledge past the point where you've already ingrained it, the old talk about quality x quantity.

When it comes to Japanese, both are important, so don't sweat it.

What happen to that anon 5k anime anki deck?

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>>149856572

Agreed. I'm doing 5 new cards a day on 2k/6k, 5 new cards a day on the radicals (recognition and recall), and then anywhere from 0-50 new cards a day from mining.

Going my own pace and doing what is fun has been a lot more effective than the last time I tried to blaze through a deck as fast as possible and got burnt out.

>>149856473
It means from here. It's from the perspective of someone looking at the gate

>>149856572
We can do it, we will learn Japanese!

>>149856526
b-b-but I do 500 reps per day

>>149856473
The moonlight is flowing in from between the gaps of the gate.

>>149856515
>What if I want to learn?
Failed cards don't disappear into the ether, you know; you'll still have to eventually pass them if you want to finish your daily reviews (assuming you've disabled the cap, as you should). Unless your rentention drops below 70% or so, going faster will not only increase your learning rate, it will also increase your actual reading speed because you'll learn to identify known words quickly.

>>149856799
>>149856696

Thanks, that makes more sense.

>>149854938
Man that is awesome, it can be done!

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>>149855466

After years of studying Japanese and passing N2 I lucked out and got myself an IT job in Japan. Three years later, not only have I not made any further progress, but I seem to have lost all interest in the language itself.

I think there are multiple causes for this:

>I understand Japanese enough to get by in daily life: from casual conversation to understanding written material enough to apply for a bank account or look for a house (for example) without having to ask for help

>Career progression does not exist and workers are seen as expendable commodity. Companies here give zero shits about one's actual skills or doing things properly (I work in IT, software developed here is 5-10 years behind abroad). It's all about ass-licking and the name of the university you graduated from.

>The above seems more pronounced the more traditional a company is and the more it requires Japanese knowledge. Feels like improving my level would make me employable by even shittier companies than my current one.

>Mangas are more conveniently obtainable in English (online scanlations) than in Japanese (physical book or having to deal with godawful Japanese apps). Similar situation for anime

>A lot of the difficulty in higher level Japanese seems made up: people writing paragraphs to say things when a sentence could do; an endless number of words having the same meaning (translation in dictionary is the same) but can't use them interchangeably.

I fully realize I am ranting here, but I'd still be interested in asking someone who went through a similar experience how they got over it.

>>149857144
Got over what, being a retarded fuckup?

>>149857144

What country do you come from? If you came from the US I don't know why you would move to Japan for an IT job.

>>149857197
Stop being a dick.

>>149857144
Your problem is that you're stuck with a shitty job, like 99% of the working population in Japan. You have 3 options,
1)Keep doing what you're doing and drink yourself numb until you stop thinking
2)Kill yourself
3)Find another job
Realistically speaking your only chance of attaining any sort of happiness and remaining in Japan is 3), but then you'd have to go through annoying paperwork AND hope that a)your new job is less shitty than your current one (somewhat unlikely) and b)that your new job does not pay significantly less than your current one (and it WILL pay less, that's absolutely 100% certain).

>>149857222
I'm really not, you made a dozen dumb mistakes, and now you're wondering how to "get over it".

>>149857033
holy shit

>>149857247
>dozen dumb mistakes
Like?

Hey! So I was listening to dir en grey and one verb form struck me as odd. At one point in 鱗 it says 選らび. I've never seen a conjugation ending in び and neither did the internet apparently as no results come up if I search it... Can anybody help me with what it means?

>>149857208
>I don't know why someone would like to move to Japan

>>149857285
選び my mistake

>>149857285
選び＊

連用形 can be used as a more formal way to link sentences.

>>149857272
>moving to Japan
>taking the N2
>getting a job in Japan
>getting a job that requires N2 in Japan
>expecting progression from a blatant monkey job
>spending 3 years in Japan and yet learning no Japanese
>not understanding the basics of creative writing
>not being able to tell a difference between garbage C>E scans and Japanese
>crying about being unable to pirate
I mean, I could go on, and on, and on and on forever. You couldn't have fucked up your life much harder if you were actively trying, dude, heroin addicts probably have it better.

>>149857144
>this whole post
So, like everywhere else in the world? Retard, stop thinking shit only happens to you.

Manchild.

>>149857372
Not him, but your overly aggressive response reeks of insecurity and tells me you're a bit jealous of him actually.

硯洗い

>>149857352
Oh, I see. Thanks alot!

>>149857372
Him and I agree with >>149857417

>>149857417
Please explain.

>>149857323

Starting an IT career (not sure if he meant software development or what) in Japan is sort of retarded tho. If he is from the US he would have been wayyyy better off advancing his career here, saving money, and then trying to land a job in japan that leverages his japanese AND english skills in combination with the technical skills that are most easily picked up in the US tech sector.

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>>149856099
Almost done with my reps!

>>149857462
people are making fun of you here

>>149857442
But Japan.

>>149857144
Working in Japan is a bad idea unless you're doing something extremely well paid/something that you absolutely love doing.

>>149857487
Atleast I can do 100 new cards a day!

>>149857491
Japan's possibly the worst first world country to work in

>>149857491

But working in Japan for a Japanese company.

IMO the sweetest deal would be landing a job for a US based company that either has you working or travelling a lot to Japan.

> almost a year of doing anki and mining vocab
> can do my reps every day with 90%+ correct
> read actual stuff
> don't know the readings most of the time even though I've seen the word a hundred times in anki

Why is this happening?

>>149857594
Cause you're stupid?

>>149857594
That's why just anki is a terrible way of learning japanese.

Is there any surviving word in Japanese that has the vowel sequence /eu/ in it, or have all of them shifted to /you/ now?

Aside from modern borrowings I mean.

>>149857561
that's brazil

>>149857637
希有 - けう

>>149857673
>first world

>>149857673
He said first world

>>149857496
Let me guess, you've read a bunch of blogs from lazy gaijin who worked for a year or two in Japan and were shocked at how most people around have to work in order to survive?
Working in Japan is no better or worse than any other place. Problem is that the sort of people who complain about it managed to get the opportunity travel and work their in the first place, which the vast majority aren't privileged enough to, so of course coming from their relatively cushy life any real work to survive will be seen as horrible.
That's how life is for everyone else who wasn't handed every opportunity on a platter.

>>149857561
See above. You have fucking real working life experience, obviously.

>>149857721
No. Look up Japan's productivity rates, they're absolutely horrible among OECD nations because they're expected to stay at work and essentially do nothing until 12AM every day so everyone can leave together, it's retarded.

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What the ever loving fuck is the Yakuza guy saying? Is that even Japanese?

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>>149857793

What the ever loving fuck is the cucker guy saying? Is that even Japanese?

>>149857721

lol, Japanese don't even 'work' that hard. They technically work extremely long hours but compared to other countries they are extremely unproductive. They fill up most of the time with bullshit.

And how the fuck is being born in Japan not having life handed to you on a platter? Literally one of the best countries in the world to be born in all things considered.

>>149857793
Yea, somewhat

>>149857826
What he's saying can be understood fairly easily, it's just some cropped words.

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>understand every word in a sentence
>have no idea what it's trying to say

70% of the random tweets i read

>>149857953
Story of my life

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>>149857953

>>149857953
That's because most of these degenerates are so fucking pisspoor at composition it takes a while to comprehend their babble even for actual natives. Do yourself a favor and read anything but random tweets.

>>149857953
Can't the same be said about English tweets?

>>149857983
Well I wanna get a feeling of how people speak in casual environments like twitter too.
Clearly I'm not there yet

>>149858008
For sure

>>149857953
Are you fucking me?

>>149857953
You only think you know them, but you don't. And you probably don't understand the particles here.

>>149858035
Is that an offer?

>>149858021
If that person could actually write decently, they'd write 他人と会話するとき、自分でも気持ち悪いぐらいにやさしい声になる and convey the exact same meaning.

>>149857953
>he fell for the Anki meme

>>149858078

I fell for the Anki meme and still falling for it since I can't find a better method of learning the language.

>>149858076
Yeah I'm sure you know better than natives, N3-kun.

>>149857953
With all Japanese, I never say I know what it says, but with this I'm pretty confident in my guess.
When he talks to someone he feels sick on the inside but sounds happy on the outside.

What does がね mean when added to a name in a letter?

>>149858113
Try making an actual counterargument next time shitposter-san

>>149858021
its not casual tho its just written with a idgf mindset like this reply im sending u

(And just like your own sentences, get yourself some commas, you fucking degenerate.)

>>149857953
>>149857972
>>149857980
Think more.

>>149858125
You're wrong.

"When I talk with someone my voice becomes so sweet I find it disgusting myself."
Or in more concise manner:
"When I talk with someone my voice becomes so disgustingly sweet."

>>149858184
>You're wrong.
fuck

>>149857793
とる is ている
じゃ is だ

>>149858040
Japanese is based a lot more on context than it is based on the literally words and grammar used t b f

There are many situations where you can know all the vocab and grammar used in some text but still not fully understand what it means

>>149858216

This definitely isn't one of this situations tho

>talking to someone

>>149857699
This is meta-funny.

>>149858210
what the fuck is あらぶってりる then? or オジキ？

>>149857144
Epic Reddit pasta.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/5deue1/lost_motivation_to_study_what_to_do/
>4: I do have a boyfriend but, since he's fluent in English, we never speak in Japanese

lel, it's by a gril

>>149858184
Hey can you give me a few tips on that でも it still messes with me

>>149857832
>Literally one of the best countries in the world to be born in all things considered.

Not even top-10 imo.

>>149858401
荒振っている

>>149858508

goddamnit

>>149858523
TIP #1: it means 'even'.

>>149858523
自分でも
"Even me" in this case.

I can't really give you advice on how to recognize this other than "get more experience with Japanese".

>>149858508
>lel, it's by a gril

Oh, well no wonder she'll never get promoted. Women are treated absolutely abysmally at Japanese workplaces. Not even trying to be a SJW or anything, this is fact.

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>>149858508
>also, a girl
jesus

DJT, which extra sounds existed in the Edo Period? Which didn't?

>tfw you'll never be good enough to go larpsofting with your japanese friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec4WVjKiJs4

>>149858686
Please get your shit back to /v/ or something you fucking retard.

>>149858508
>gril

and she's totally clueless that her boyfriend seems to be just using her for free english practice (and presumably a place to put his dick)

>>149858798
archive a history of the japanese language

>>149858865
What?

so this is the level of /djt/? browsing /r/LearnJapanese?

>>149858892
or it could just not be like that.

>>149858641
>>149858657
I knew it meant but I was reading it as a standalone term 自分でも - 気持ち悪いぐらい
But then I noticed it is actually ((自分でも気持ち悪い)ぐらい) don't know if this makes any sense for ya

>>149859077
They're still split, you fucking retard.

>>149859077
Yes, I guess I know what you mean, cause it reflects in your wrong translation attempt.

You thought 自分でも気持ち悪い would mean something to the effect of "I'm disgusting" and that's why you had "he feels sick on the inside" in your translation >>149858125

Right?

>>149859145

SIR, SIR, calm down, mommy is bringing you tendies as we speak

>>149859174
Oh that wasn't me though, but it could have been that for him too

>>149859145
Please don't forget to take your pills.

>>149858983
While I don't go looking for it myself, laughing at people who are monumental fuck-ups is a reasonable motivation approach.

Motivation falls into 3 major camps. People who are motivated by seeing others fail, those who are motivated by being told they'll fail and proving said person wrong, and motivation from wanting to experience something, be it manga, a VN, or a fucking 80s TV show.

>>149859174
I read でも as some sort of contrast, like in "but to me". That's where I got that from. What I really misunderstood was everything from に to the end. Hence, "My voice comes out pleasant but I feel sick (in context of having a conversation)"
I need to read more

>>149859334

There is a fourth way: Simply enjoying the process.

What's an image view that doesn't suck? The windows image viewer is now so terrible it's unusable.

>>149838136
>>149838155
Thank you based DJT for introducing me to 新しいゲーム

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頑張ってくださいね

ぞい

>>149859697
>Untitled.jpg

>>149859664
irfan

>>149858924
Woah, an entire book just for that? I will just look at some kana articles on Wikipedia and look for historical changes.

>>149859664
Honeyview

>>149859821
Sounds like a honeypot to me

>>149859835
I'm sorry, is there a part where I'm supposed to laugh?

>>149859664
>The windows image viewer is now so terrible it's unusable.
In which ways?
Anyway, two recommendable programs are
Quivi
http://quivi.sourceforge.net/
Honeyview
http://www.honeyview.org/download/

>>149859912
please don't forget >>149859324

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