I'm rewatching Utena and can someone explain the semantics of the Black Rose Arc? I understand that only Akio/Anthy and Mikage remember it, but I'm confused on whether Mikage was "erased" by Akio or did nothing really happen and Mikage was just deluding himself, lead on by Anthy and Akio? If the latter, then why is Shiori back in the Apocalypse arc and how does Utena know about Kanae and Akio?
Or am I taking it too literally and Mikage's graduation or freedom from the memories of Mamiya is purely metaphorical?
I don't think it's a good idea to take anything in Utena literally.
>>149657640
>what the fuck do you mean
Have the idea that Mikage's appearance was who he imagined himself to be, in reality being much older. His interviews with the other characters happened except the last one.
>>149657750
But how does Saionji cooking eggs in the middle of the night tie into all of this?
>>149657750
The talk about graduating was just him coming to terms that he spent decades not growing up mentally and living in the past after being c*cked
>>149657324
You could say that the black rose arc never happened but then there's no plot thread to get Saiyonji back in school.
>>149657324
The Black Rose arc happened but nobody remembers the parts directly involving Mikage. well except Akio and Anthy of course.
The Black Rose arc was a mistake.
>>149657324
Mikage regains repressed memories during the duel, he gets tired of this shit and does same thing Utena did at the end; he leaves the Academy and is therefore erased from everyone's (other than Akio's and Anthy's) memory.
>If the latter, then why is Shiori back in the Apocalypse arc and how does Utena know about Kanae and Akio?
Shiori never left and Kanae (it's Akio's fiancee, isn't it) is part of Akio's world, his spectacle. Utena and Mikage leave it all behind them.