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How the fuck Vegeta and Trunks were struggling while using their

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How the fuck Vegeta and Trunks were struggling while using their Galick Guns at Zamasu's death ball, but after Vegeta got hit by the lightning, Goku's Kamehameha is doing better pushing the death ball than 2 Galick Guns?
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He's Goku
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Still waiting on that one faggot from the previous thread to post his proof that Potara fusion>Fusion Dance.

Where you at, bitch?
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My guess is that the Father-Son Galick Gun weakened Zamasu's defenses. On the other hand, it may just be another case of Goku doing what he does.
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don't ever talk to me or my fusions daughter again
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>>149533983
I'm waiting for the one faggot to complain that we're getting vegito instead of Gogeta
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>>149534050
He's already here. See: >>149533983
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>>149534050
Still waiting on your proof, Cuckgito bitch.
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>>149533939
>Just forget putting Dragon Ball Super on the thread
I'm a disgrace for the ningen.
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>>149533939

We didn't see who won

At the start of the next episode, Zamasu will start pushing back and Goku will use kaioken to win the struggle
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>>149534083
ya what a fucking amateur.
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>>149534072
it ain't me. frankly I don't care which fusion we get, though I do think Vegito looks cooler
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>>149534121
Vegito isn't shit, but Gogeta is superior. Better attacks, better outfit, better personality. I mean shit, SS4 Gogeta, as retarded as GT designs are, is better than a stupid deviantart recolor of Vegito.
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>>149533983
Either you are baiting, or you never watched the show, because Elder Kai explicitly stated that the dance was a cheap knockoff of the earings.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7seJ7mXTWs

Tfw Gogeta loses in his own scenario.
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>>149533939
>>149533561
>Now this I'd like to see, source?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

The announcement was made at Shueisha’s new publication planning presentation held in Tokyo on the 12th. Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”
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>vegita jobbing against an octopus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWx84aIDDg

When will this end
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>>149534161
I am still waiting on that Vegitotard's proof. Scans or the episode where Elder Kai EXPLICITLY states that Potara fusion>Fusion Dance. Don't bullshit, just post the proof. Do it. If you post proof I'll admit that I am wrong as fuck about Gogeta being superior/equal in power to Vegito.
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>>149534195
This took all of 5 seconds to find.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFIWPAJtgGU
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>>149534232
Dubshit, retard.
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>>149534232
>title of video
But the Old Kai isn't ugly
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>>149534195
Not him, but rewatch episodes:
-The old kai's weapon
-Ready to fuse?
-Union of Rivals

Then shut up forever, don't shit up threads anymore, please.
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>>149534195
how about using basic logic?
For the dance you need to lower your power to match the power of the other person, while the Potara fusion don't have that requirement
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>>149534267
Fuck me, aren't you a difficult one.
Second last panel, he says it'll be even better than fusion.
http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v41/c307/6.html
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>>149534267
You can watch the sub, same result faggot
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>>149534324
Are you another dubfag?

>>149534325
>For the dance you need to lower your power to match the power of the other person
Try again tard bastard. Toriyama stated that this isn't absolutely necessary, it just makes the syncing harder.
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>>149534267
Way to ask for proof then deny it right after faggot. Just do a quick Google search. You'll find results easy.
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>ask for proof
>get shown video proof
>d-dub fag
man might as well just give him nip raws
>inb4 "can't under moonroons doesn't count"
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>>149534349
>>149534351
>>149534375

Well fuck my goddamn ass, Potara fusion is superior in power to the Fusion Dance. You faggots.

Gogeta is still cooler.
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>>149533939
Because Goku has always been stronger, he's the protagonist of the franchise.
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daily reminder that bra is best grill
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>Potara
>First Appearance: chapter 501
>Category: miscellaneous
>Explanation: Ear decorations worn by Kaioshins and their attendants for generations. Despite being worn so casually, they’re actually an incredible power-up item. The Elder Kaioshin gave them to Goku as a trump card for defeating Majin Buu.
>Special Characteristics: To use them, the two people who will merge simply each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. Furthermore, after merging the power is greater than with Fusion. However, the two people will automatically merge as soon as the earrings are put on, and in principle will be unable to ever split up again, so caution is needed when handling them. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu’s body. Also, while with Fusion the post-merged clothing is the native dress of the people of Planet Metamor, when merging with the Potara not only are the two people’s bodies mixed together, but their clothing is as well. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion. (Daizenshuu 4, p.163)

Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13080

Just for future reference.
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>Gogetafags are so autistic they've made Gohanfags seem sane
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>>149534471
>There are people who don't like based dadgeta
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>>149534432
You just go BTFO.
Thanks Vegitobros.
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>>149534521
Oh fuck a shit you fag bastard. Gohan is a piece of trash compared to literally anyone in the series.
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>>149534471
What a weird way to spell Mai
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>>149534521
>>149534546
at least Gohan is canon :^)
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>>149534545
Fuck your shitty deviantart recolor. Gogeta's design is still better and he's a better character. Faggot. Fucking faggot. Goddamn fucking queer.
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>>149534546

At least Gohan is canon. At least he did something useful in the series a couple of times.
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>>149534572
I'd rather be not canon than a pathetic cuck who can't competently fight Captain fucking Ginyu.
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>>149534576
>>149534546
Someone's mad
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>>149534603
Shut the fuck up. Vegito is still a demonstrably worse character. Shittier attacks. Shittier outfit. Shittier personality. Gogeta would make the story better just by existing as a better character.
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Yosha!
Leave Zamasu^2 to me
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>>149534576
How is the design better?
It's just the Metamoran suit.
At least Vegito suit is original.
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>>149534160
>Gogeta
>personality
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>the only insults this guy can throw is cuck and faggot
this guy seems to be projecting hard
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>>149533983
しかも効フュージョン以上
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>>149534644
The Metamoran suit is badass as fuck.
>original
It's literally Goku and Vegeta's clothes fused together.

>>149534650
Stoic, no-nonsense, get-shit-done personality. I'm glad you agree faganon.

>>149534655
Vegitocuck.
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Now that Gogetafag has admitted defeat, let's take a moment to admire the good aspects of Gogeta. I like this tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3oUPTvSmpE
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>>149534632
Except everything you listed was subjective as fuck. You already lost the real argument. Go back to sucking gogeta's dick why don't you
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brafags are the only decent fags in here. every one else a shit
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>>149534666
I already fucking admitted my faults, Satan. Fuck off back to hell and suck cocks there.
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>>149534655
It's obvious he got bullied as a kid that's why he's so upset about THE ONE's "arrogance"

Daily reminder that Vegetto's provocation was part of a greater plan (which worked) while the fursuit Gohan-clone pointlessly fooled around like a kid until his time limit ran out.
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>>149534349
>You can only use the potaras once in your lifetime

WTF I hate dragon ball super now
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>>149534695
I have conceded one point, you cactus bastard

>>149534702
You have no argument, Vegitocuck.
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>>149534471
Why is that Vegeta so tall and smug?
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>>149534722
Sorry I was just busy finding a source you wouldn't dismiss and people anticipated me.
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>>149534704
What about 18fags?
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>>149534704
would love to see edits of this with purple hair and super's blue hair.
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>>149534729
Just shut the fuck up already, shill.
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Who would like Vegito more?
Bulma or Chi-chi?

I really want them to keep him around for a few episodes just for the comedy.
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>>149534748
It'll be all right, Gogetafag. I'm not here to bully you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQAfdeffrvM
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>>149534748
Except that Vegito is stronger. Where are your arguments that are factual and not just opinion?
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>All these people arguing over Vegito and Gogeta
>When best fusion is canonically Vegirot.
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>>149534799
Gogeta is a cooler fusion.
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>>149534174
>that ending

Bulma would love getting to fuck Vegeta and Goku at the same time and Chichi would be overjoyed that Vegeta's half makes her husband be at home more often.
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Praise and Adore Him!
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>>149534800
That reminds me. Have they been translating DB again for the color editions, or is it just a paste job?
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>>149534818
Do you not know what an opinion is?
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>>149534743
He probably meant fused beings can't fuse anymore with potaras.
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>>149534878
Eat my balls. I'm going to bed fuck all of you
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>>149534825
>You will never be Vegetto.
>You will never sit at Chichi's waiting on a meal as she adapts to life like this.
>You will never have Bulma come over to visit and ride your cock like her life depends on it.
>You will never see Chichi's heart break a little more.
>You will never convince her to join you and Bulma in a loving threesome.
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>>149534830
You need edit his hair to SSB
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>>149534748
Ok, then:

-Vegito outfit is a good mesh of the clothes of Vegeta and Goku, Gogeta outfit is just a rehash of the same Metamoran Shit.
First point in favor of Vegito.

-Vegito actually has a personality, smart and calculating, since the taunting was for getting him absorbed (and is cool too). Instead Gogeta has litterally 2 minutes of screen time, counting only the film, and just kills Janemba since he has nothing to hold him back (like the absorbed friends that Vegito had to save). If we count GT too, Gogeta comes out as completely retarded instead.
Second point in favor of Vegito.

-Both the Attacks of Vegito and Gogeta are good, Vegito ones are more normal, different applications of things they already knew, instead Gogeta ones are strangely paranormal.
Third point is a draw.

So counting the points, Vegito wins.
Refute this now, i dare you.
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>>149534993
He's already buttmad. You don't need to pour it on
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>>149534993
You forgot to mention how Gogeta literally has Gohan's cuck hair (in the movie at least)
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>>149534179
I don't see anything in that link from the Shueisha/Bird or Toriyama himself saying that the Super manga is the official continuation of the original manga series, though.
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>>149534830
>>149534951
All hail. I wish Goku had kept his Champa arc clothes.
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>>149534993
I will guess what he will say
>wow combining outfits, so boring
>almost got the whole universe destroyed blah blah blah
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>>149535049
He's been copy/pasting those statements for hours now.
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>>149534993
Metamoran Suit is slick looking and has a unique and recognizable design.

Counting GT, Gogeta also had a plan: to goad Omega Shenron into firing the Minus Energy Power Ball so he could infuse it with his positive energy, thus purifying the Earth and purging it of all the shitty Shadow Dragon effects.

Agree both faggot fusions have cool attacks.

Goodnight you fuck.
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>>149534743
damn you're right he does state that, but maybe Vegito is an exception because they're unfused again and maybe Old Kai was referencing a fusee trying to fuse once more on top?
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>>149535002
>http://mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball/v41/c308/1.html

second mid panel
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>>149535072
Sleep tight, Gogetafag.
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Gogeta doesn't even have a fucking personality. In the movie he did nothing except spout some HURR I'M DA SAVIOR JUSTICE THIS IS YOUR END EVILDOER shit line, and in GT he acted like a mentally retarded child.

Vegetto is the perfect merge of Goku and Vegeto's personalities. He's got Goku's easygoing nature and Vegeta's arrogance, that's why he's such an alpha dick. He's got Goku's caring nature, which made him want to save the others first, and Vegeta's calculating mind, which is why he came up with a good plan for it.
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>>149535100
>Vegeta's calculating mind
>Vegeta
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>>149535130
>what is the entire Namek arc
>was the one that came up with using the universal Spirit Bomb
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>>149535130
Vegeta was once a good tactician.

Once upon a time, anyway. Still, you can definitely attribute Vegetto's cunning to him.
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>>149535031
that quotation is only one half of the equation. Here is a direct quote from TA regarding the Dragon Ball franchise:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/09/30/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-collectors-edition-to-include-bonus-toyotaro-manga/

“A message from Akira Toriyama”
I’ve been drawing manga less often these days, so Toyotaro has has taken up the mantle of drawing Dragon Ball. I still contribute the basic ideas, but Toyotaro’s wonderful skills allow the Dragon Ball universe to be brought back to life in the present.
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pretty sure Vegito won't be cocky this time, vs an immortal being with saiyan zenkai
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>>149535072
The design is not really unique if everyone and their mothers has it.
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>>149535154
>fucking up left & right, only kept alive by Frieza wanting him alive for interrogation & zenkai boosts
>Goten, Trunks & Gohan are alive again
>muh earth should help too
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>>149535130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V5VaKLA3fQ
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>>149535227
Look, the tactician part can come or from Goku or from Vegeta, who do you think is more likely?
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>>149534179
>>149535031
>>149535164

I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/
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Shouldn't vegito and zamasu clashes destroy galaxies just like goku vs beerus?
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>>149535227
As hard as Gohan would have wrecked Kid Buu there's no guarantee they would have actually been able to destroy him, and then there's always the risk of getting absorbed which would literally fuck everything up.

The Spirit Bomb was a good plan because it guaranteed enough power to wipe him out completely.
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>>149533983
I don't actually know but wouldn't it be stronger just purely because it's a permanent fusion? And in that sense because it's more dangerous in that you lose two people who become one blah blah more reward for more risk etc.
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>>149534830
Vegito-sama, give me the strength to became a better man and achieve perfection. Because you are perfection.
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>>149535270
The one who didn't let Cell become perfect, willingly fought his allies so Buu can be released, etc.
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>>149535327
Vegito is just going to bully Zamasu, no galaxies are going to be destroyed
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>>149535333
>there's no guarantee they would have actually been able to destroy him
If Goku thought SSJ3 can do the job, Gohan could too

>good plan
It relied on a wish for Goku to get max power. Just IT Gohan & Gotenks back.
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>>149535327
maybe the universe shaking was a result stemming from Beerus' "HAKAI!" frequency'd nature of his GoD ki? Who fucking knows
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>>149535327
Super has gone full GT with the "most powerful characters can destroy a few pebbles with their blasts".

This shit is so annoying because in the main arcs Toriyama was actually pretty consistent with the powerlevel increases. Like, in the Cell Sagas their most powerful beams obviously threatened the planet, and then in the Buu Saga even casual beams from Kid Buu would destroy the earth and even Gotenks rapid fire shit (which is normally weak as fuck and never works) worried Piccolo that he'd destroy the planet with it.

Now the explosions are fucking tiny just like in GT.
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>>149535333
this tripps don't lie.
gohan is a failure and had his chance.
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>>149535368
Are yoy talking about the one that wanted to let Frieza live, gave a Senzu to Cell, and in this arc forgot senzu, pot and sigil?
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>>149533939
He was yelling louder in the final scene
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>>149535368
You mean the same one that gave Cell a Senzu and didn't go all out against Fat Buu when he could have probably won?

They're both idiots. Both have faults. Vegetto inherits their good aspects very well, though. Goku's battle strategy, Vegeta's mental capacity, etc. Different benefits come from both fusees to create someone above and beyond.
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>>149535428
That transition is great.
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>can't access manga fox pages due to copyright bullshit
is there a way around that?
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>>149535497
idk i can access it pretty fine in Canada, have you tried an international proxy?
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>>149534830
>over 500 stones
>still no sign of this smug mofo
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149535439
>wanted Frieza to live
>wanted Gohan to be pressured because only Gohan was strong enough to beat Cell
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>>149535428
>spends over 9000 chapters getting roided up by the old kai
>FINALLY, I'M READY TO KICK BUU'S ASS
>flash forward next chapter
>this shit happens

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Gohan?
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>>149535497
You can read DB on Mangatraders. The links above have the issue and page number, but the edition may be a bit different so look around that zone.
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>>149535368
Goku is a melting pot of bad decisions, hunger for battle, and good intentions.
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>>149535460
This was already addressed many threads ago. Goku had no way of beating Perfect Cell except Gohan who was unwilling to go SSJ2. He was also dead in the Buu saga, thus Earth needed to find some way to protect itself, and SSJ3 drains what little time he had left. A few minutes of SSJ3 drained hours worth of his time.
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>>149535164
Well, he said "basic ideas" so it sounds more like a Toyotaro is the one behind the manga, as opposed to Toriyama. It feels like his involvement in Super is really minimal at this point and may be overhyped. Does he get character ideas and concepts from TOEI and Toyotaro, seeing as how Black has been compared to Xicor.

>>149535281
>continuation of my story!

I suppose that's fair, but didn't he say something similar regarding GT back when it originally came out?
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>>149535624
>Goku wanting to fight Zamasu and beat Zamasu in ssj2 is what caused him to go full NINGEN REEEEEEE
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>>149535624
Vegeta is worse. Too much Saiyan pride.
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>>149535650
Anime


http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/


>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.


>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!


http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/


>I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.


Manga


http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/


>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.


>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!


https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579


>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
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>>149535656
Not anymore
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>>149535717
Now please stop with this anime and manga autism, like you do in every thread please.
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>>149534830
Accept this sacrifice.
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>>149535656
Vegeta is a mix of Pride and arrogance.
He talks big because he thinks he can back it up but then shit gets the better of him
Goku beats the enemy and wants them to live so he can have a better fight later. Gets taught shit to get a easy victory and promptly forgets to do it.
Goku - blind ignorance.
Vegeta - Overconfidence
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>>149535333
One thing I don't get, To get enough energy in a spirit bomb to kill Buu would have to be from across the entire universe charging for an extremely long time. Even longer than Freeza, and that was just the solar system.
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what would a FTrunks and Vegata fusion be called?
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>>149535806
I only posted this pasta to answer a question dipshit. Plus this post is neutral as it gets, if you get offended and takes sides that's your own problem.
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>>149535852
Incest
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>>149535856
I don't pick sides, i like both, i just now hate this copypasta that gets thrown around every thread.
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>>149535717
Still sounds like a Toyotaro is the writer and creative force as opposed to Toriyama doing anything beyond simply looking it over. He's looked over other dragon Ball material and provided concept art for guys like Chilled. I'm still not sure what sets Super apart from other movie or spinoff material.
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>>149535852
Vejunks
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>>149535845
He got energy from earth, namek and hell/afterlife, iirc

When he did it against Frieza iirc it was mostly nature since most of the namekians were, well, dead

The Buu saga spirit bomb was different because it actively took ALL the energy of everyone who raised their hands.
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>>149535889
what is there to hate? It's literally just direct quotations from Toriyama interviews.
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>>149535891
The fact that Toruyama approved it, so it's canon. Simple, really.
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>>149535917
It almost always sparks shitflinging between anime and manga fags, simple thing to hate.
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>>149535988
no blame the trolls used to shit up the threads before this pasta was around, they would pretend to be an animefag to instigate flamewars. This pasta helps keep the trolls at bay.
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>>149535913
Ya, but considering how much stronger Buu was and that the SB against Freeza didn't even kill him, it just didn't make much sense.
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>>149535891
>Still sounds like a Toyotaro is the writer and creative force as opposed to Toriyama doing anything beyond simply looking it over
Toriyama writes the manuscript/"plot outlines", that's more than just looking it over.
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>>149536080
He also designs the new characters.
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>>149535951
He's approved of a ton of Dragon Ball material though. He's provided concept art for other characters like Janemba for example.

I thought he also was pissed about how Super was doing at least, to the point where he was reluctant to continue working with TOEI on Super.
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>>149534830
DELETE THIS YOU DOUBLE NINGEN!
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>>149536127
He was pissed with the shittily redrawn film rehashes, who wouldn't be.
He's okay with it now.
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>>149536072
Dude, the average person has a powerful of 5.
Considering the spirit bomb saps ALL of their energy, we could reason that it adds +5 or +4 for every person.

I don't know how big the population on Dragonballs earth is and how many of those people propped their hands up for Satan but we can assume it was quite a lot of them, so you should be looking at a powerlevel in the billions JUST from earth which doesn't even include all the ACTUALLY strong people. Add to that Namek where everyone has powerlevels of at least in the hundreds or even thousands (pretty low population though I think), and then hell.

The difference between just taking energy passively from plants and animals and draining all of it is that huge.
That's why Goku said "spirit bomb, how is that going to help against Buu?", because in the normal way it really wouldn't have helped.
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reminder.
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>>149533939
Because Goku did it next, after Zamasu was hit by their attack and was subsequently more tired or weakened
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>>149536127
yeah he was pissed at Toei, not at Shueisha or Toyotaro, he's actually really happy with the direction of the manga.


Toriyama-sensei, what advice do you have for Toyotarō-sensei?
Toriyama:
Frankly… I’m perfectly satisfied with things the way they’re going (laughs).
Toyotarō:
U-Um… Really? There’s nothing you think needs to be fixed or thrown out? Don’t hold back for my sake… (sweat).

Toriyama:
Hahahaha (loud laughter). Not really… (thinks about it a little bit). Nope, not a thing! Well OK… If I have to say something, then I guess your compositions would be even better if you utilized more diverse angles. Also, I think it would be great if you included more of your own original ideas. I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!
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>>149536080
Those appear to be very small plot outlines since TOEI and a Toyotaro both seem to add a considerable amount of padding. Since Toyotaro worked on an AF manga I'm wondering if he had an influence in Goku Black/Zamasu as characters.

>>149536175
Seems like he was mad even up until the end of the Champa arc.

>You know, even Toriyama is pissed off by Super
>Really? I heard he wasn't a fan of the animation, but haven't heard anything along the lines of that.
>I can't tell you the source because it's insider information, but he surely got turned off and reluctant to keep being involved with Super, so they had to provide him with some basic ideas for the plot of the new Goku Black arc.
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>>149536206
>Considering the spirit bomb saps ALL of their energy

They would all be dead then, and they didn't die from that.
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>>149535036
why didn't he? does it actually save money to not change vegito's design to fit goku and vegetas costume changes?
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>>149536280
more nostalgia bucks by using old costumes.
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>>149536261
All of their ki, you don't need ki to survive obviously. And even if they retained a small part it would still be +4 instead of +5.
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>>149536127
>I thought he also was pissed about how Super was doing at least, to the point where he was reluctant to continue working with TOEI on Super.
that's probably why they decided to make the manga ahead of the anime again, better quality control by focusing their energy on making good manga for Toei to replicate.
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>>149536280
Probably >>149536297

Hell, they even went and destroyed Vegeta's armor to make Vegetto look like he did originally.
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>>149536297
>>149536377
seriously? why would people be more interested just because the costume is the same
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>>149536239
Hm, I guess that adds credibility to Toriyama liking him enough to consider him his successor, I wonder if Goku Black and Zamasu were suggested by Toyotaro or if he'll have a hand in coming up with story ideas.
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>>149536441
People like things being as they once were. Especially when those things are from their childhood, which is the case for the majority of this fanbase.
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F. Trunks comes into the fray.
it's hype when an unknown saiyan out of no where appears before Frieza not fazed at all.
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>>149536523
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>>149536545
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>>149536578
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>>149536445
>suggested by Toyotaro or if he'll have a hand in coming up with story ideas.

So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
Toyotarō:
T-That’s so much pressure… (sweat). But I think it’ll be really cool to help Dragon Ball someday reach its final chapter.

Toriyama:
Oh, that’s good! People will go “Wow, Toriyama-sensei planned it all out from the beginning!” and I’ll look really cool (laughs).

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
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>>149536601
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>>149536630
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>>149536645
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>>149536207
>not pictured

What did he mean by this?

Also

>one of the last saiyans
>currently dead

Wouldn't that mean he isn't one of the last saiyans since that implies he's one of the last living saiyans?
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>>149536666
>all those straight 6's
damn....
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>>149536725
oh shit.
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>>149536612
>Toyotarō-sensei

Could they sound any more fake in those interviews?
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>>149536754
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>>149536773
>Could they sound any more fake in those interviews?
what did you mean by this?
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>>149536777
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Is there a torrent or something for all of Mofogoku's DB translations?
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>>149536801
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>>149536828
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>>149536855
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>>149536878
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>>149536904
F. Trunks proves yet again he isn't the type to fuck around.
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>>149536931
it appears Frieza had to split.
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>>149536952
over kill poor freeze pop
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>>149536979
see you till rival of f frieza
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>>149537008
the daddy is next.
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>>149537044
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>>149537078
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>>149537113
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>>149537136
big mistake
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>>149537151
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>>149537172
rip papa freezer
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>>149537191
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>>149537218
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>>149537242
fin
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>>149533939
>Vegeta, not bad!
>You got a good side to you.

Did Yoda sub this?
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>>149537265
He's so perfect. Thanks for this anon.
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>>149536612
Kind of puts Toriyama in a far less involved position at this point if Toyotaro even starts suggesting new characters. Goku Black and Zamasu kind of feel like Xicor and West Supreme Kai.
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>>149537343
Perfect you say?
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>>149534686
wasn't SSJ4 Gogeta a lot like Vegito?
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post yfw mystic gohan was never supposed to be a permanent thing and Gohan always deserved to get cucked.
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I lost it when I saw Goku and Vegeta's arms being animated as wiggling noddles while Zamasu shocked them

honestly adventure time tier
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>>149537969
Why did people forget this?
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>>149535414
What is ki control
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>>149535414
HURDUR LETS BLOWUP THE PLANET WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT CUZ MUH POWER AND AWEZOMENESS RIGHT HUEUEUEUE
Seriously, are you fucking dumb? Do you guys try to even understand why they fight? By your logic in the majinbuu arc they should have been blowing up solar systems each time they fought because Cell could blow up one.
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>>149533939
You can see that Galick Gun actually pierces through Holy Wrath, since Zamasu actually holds back the beam before it blows up in his face.

Goku just managed to push it back.
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>>149536255
Feels really unfortunate if Toriyama is not satisfied with Dragon Ball's direction, and is barely providing ideas or concepts if this information really is true.
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Would you say the current arc is to Trunks what the cell arc was to Gohan?
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>Vegito starts fucking Buu up so hard he can't regenerate properly
>Then does the same shit to a literally immortal Zama2

He's such goddamn bullshit, I love it.
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>>149535327
No because that was only a result of Goku not knowing how to control it. Once he did the destructive vibrations stopped
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>>149539310
Prepared to be buttblasted when Vegetto ends up calling zeno because he can't finish him
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>>149538726
They're talking about Zamasu/Black Goku's explosions. Why wouldn't he just blow up the planet? He has no reason to hold back, and there are multiple moments where he shoots large beams at the ground unopposed.

None of that in the manga so far at least.
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>>149534471
>Bulma's mom never ages
>she does

I don't understand.
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>>149533939
Goku must keep his powerlevel at Vegeta's level so the guy won't feel frustrated and suicidal.
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>>149539605
Her dad's a scientist. He probably invented super botox or some shit
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>>149539707
Bulma is a scientist too, yet she still complains about aging so I guess super botox isn't a thing. My best guess is her mom is some non-aging lifeform her dad created.
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>>149539743
Have you seen Bulma in Super? She looksyounger than ever
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>>149534686
>Stoic, no-nonsense, get-shit-done personality.
Not canon. His other non-canon appearance was a shitty version of Vegito's.

There is no set proof of Gogeta's personality.
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>>149533939
The one aimed at Goku seemed smaller to me, and we don't know yet if he actually pushes it back.
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>>149539605
Tights doesn't seem to age either, and she's supposed to be 60.
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>>149534174
BRB torrenting Raging Blast
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>>149539037
He's disappointed in Toei's animation quality, he's fine with the manga and that's what it's going to be ahead so it can set an example.
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>>149533939
Niggastream finally translated chapter 17
http://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/017/3785/1
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>>149543329
Why are you reading that awful translation exactly when there's a better one being done by Viz?
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>>149533983
Its been for fucking ever since I watched DBZ and the Buu saga, but even I remember that Potara fusion>Fusion Dance. One of the Kai's explained it if i recall. Also I do like Gogeta's move-set more but getting Vegito instead isn't all that bad. Yall niggas trippin.
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Even the videogames know that Vegetto is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7seJ7mXTWs
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>>149543348
link?
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>>149543376
>link
You'd have to ___buy____ it.
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>>149535327

It should at least be blowing planets and shit, goku powering up to SSJ3 did more dmg than anything zamasu and black have done so far.
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>>149543392
then no thanks, if i can get my hand son some raws I'd read that but that's impossible these days.
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>>149535414

ya I miss the fucking impact ki attacks had in Z, the fights are so dull and we can't even get any reasonable impact.
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>>149539572
Zamasu really likes the planet. It's kinda his thing, "these planets are cool, the FILTHY NINGENS ARE RUINING THEM"

>>149535327
Didn't the supreme kai meention that was specifically because he was clashing with beerus? actually no because the way they cancelled it out was to hit each other in such a way that they perfectly opposed each other or something.

I'm sure that Vados and Whis made comment that Beerus and Champa shouldn't fight because it'd probably go badly for whichever universe they were in.
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>>149543348
I'm somewhat surprised someone hasn't ripped the Viz translations for Super
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>>149543329
>humans
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>Ep 67 titled "Farewell Trunks"

Okay
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>>149533983
The proof is that Vegeta and Goku will use the potara to face Zawasu. If dance were more powerful, they'd do it, they wouldn't even need the Dragon Balls to unfuse afterwards.
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>>149543507
Pretty sure that means he'll be going back to his own timeline and not dying if that's what you were

>implying
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>>149543507
You do realize it could just be them going back to their time and saying farewell to Trunks who stays in the future right? In fact that's the most likely scenario.
You're deluded if you think anyone is going to die in Super when the target audience for the show is 8 year olds.
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>>149534195
Holy shit. GT fag hasn't even read the story.

I knew this spic was outrageous. Now I think he's just an astro-turfing shill.
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>>149543507
He dies, it's the only way he can save his world and atone for his sins.
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>>149543562
>>149543561
Yes of course, but I was

>implying

That the arc would be over in two episodes.
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>>149543615
Except your screencap says nothing about him dying.
Nice shitpost, faggot.
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>>149543653
I thought that was obvious from the Vegetto preview alone. Zamasu is literally half melted and Vegetto has him beaten into the ground.
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>>149543653
They outright called next episode the climax in the preview.
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>>149543561
>>149543562
>>149543615
Bulma is taking the time machine back to the present and probably destroy it when this is all over. They'll never be able to meet again
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>>149539673
kek
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fusion dance is not and cannot even be canon since it requires both persons to have the same height
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>>149543851
Completely false, nowhere in the manga or the anime did it ever say the height has to be the same. Shitpost harder.
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>>149543653
Zamasu "dies" for sure in the first couple of minutes of episode 67 so the rest can be spent doing SoL.
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Galick Gun weakened him
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I have awakened from my fucking slumber.

Guys, I just like Gogeta better than Vegito. Goddamn it. Sue me. That's fucking it.
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>Trunks keeps using other people's moves instead of his own
I miss the Burning Attack and Finish Buster
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>>149544578
But those were pretty much game exclusives. He doesn't even shout Burning Attack the only time he uses it against Freeza.
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>>149544847
Final Kamehameha was game exclusive too and it's showing up in the next episode
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>>149534432
Jesus fuck, you're pathetic.
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>>149544578
Aside from the heat dome, his special attacks are all just beams
I prefer him pulling off cool moves with his sword instead.
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>>149543329
Where is the faggot who said this would happen in the manga aswell?
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>>149544952
Shut up faggot, I already admitted that I lost that argument.
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>>149544983
Why is it so important that this happens in the manga?
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>>149537969
>>149538577
He meant the dance took 5 hours, and powering up with the hands took 20. Mystic is permanent.
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>>149537969
Retard
5 hours for the dance and 20 hours for meditation
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hi there again cuties hows your Tuesday been going for you all so far? hope it's great.
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>>149534471
Dadgeta was the only thing that was good about GT.

I need more Dadgeta moments in Super.
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>>149545408
Too many Vegitotard threads.
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>>149544348
That's totally okay, Anon. You brought that Hell upon yourself when you sperged out, but it's cool if you like something someone else doesn't, because it's what you like. Just don't bash others for liking what they do. It'll be okay.

>>149543329
>Kid Trunks calling Future Trunks bro.

It's the little things.
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>>149533939
kamehameha scales better with overall ki than galick gun, pretty common knowledge at this stage guys.
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tfw Supreme Kai almost got Kibito erased.
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>>149546098
>gogeta will always be bottom bitch to vegetto
i-it hurts. he just wanted to be canon
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What's the best site for watching super?
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>>149546486
well I watch it here
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/dragon-ball-super-english-subbed
Not the best quality but still ok
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>>149533939
kamehame is a better attack
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>>149536134
kek
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>>149546609
goku was at three times power for 24K against vegetas 18K but only managed a tie until using four times power to win the struggle with 32K
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>>149546486
crunchyroll or kissanime
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>>149546486
Crunchyroll, Daisuki, or Funimation's site.
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>>149546659
Didn't Garlick cannon raise Vegeta's power level?
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>>149546875
It did.
Vegeta literally says that Kamehameha is IDENTICAL to his Gallic Ho.

They are basically one and the same technique just with minor differences in presentation.
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>>149546678
>>149546848
Can't access crunchyroll from my region, but kissanime is working fine, thanks
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>>149546899
If they both did and kaioken tripled Goku's power wouldn't that still make Vegeta's beam the stronger one for doing more with less?
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>>149546933
Just don't look at the powerlevels, they've never been consistent and Toriyama literally went on record to say they were a mistake which is why they were phased out in Cell Saga.
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>>149546974
Even if I don't look at the numbers Goku was stronger with times three power but the beam clash was even
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>>149533939
Goku is bullshit and Super caters to him
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They reused the same Blades of Judgment animation twice in episode 65.
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>>149547017
for super catering to goku he sure loses a lot and fucks things up for the good guys
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>>149547027
They also reused the animation of Zamasu shooting those two purple lightning bolts out of his halo twice
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So does anyone feel like somehing is off about Merged Zamasu?
Like he doesn't really feel like a Dragonball villain, you know what I mean.
He feels more like the final villain of a LN anime if that makes any sense.
I don't hate him or something he just feels different and a bit out of place.
Does anyone else feel this way or am I just being an autist?
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>>149534471
Vegeta sure has weak ass genes.
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>>149547192
He's become a Final Fantasy villain.
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>>149547213
trunks is pretty strong anon
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>>149547010
You are looking at pwerlevels because the only way to consider Goku stronger with times three is if you look at their powerlevels and multiply them
Like I said, don't look into it, turn your brain off and enjoy
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>>149547304
>the only way
Goku was clearly stronger than Vegeta at the time only to merely match Vegeta's attack using that same power. There doesn't seem like any way around this. Maybe the Garlic attack is just a better move?
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>>149547248
He's talking about genetics. The only things Trunks got from his father are the eyes and the fact that he's a saiyan. The rest is all Bulma.
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>>149547192
he's from jojo
he even got a stand
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>>149533939
Super was a mistake
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>>149547403
No, Z was a mistake.
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>>149547372
Don't forget the space gains.
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>>149534471
You think Vegeta ever accidentally stuck it to Bra thinking she was Bulma? Just asking for a friend
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>>149547372
yeah, vegeta's genetics made trunks strong stupid
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>>149545447
I actually liked that a lot too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p40ChcYf0n8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnt88WwbZk
I actually like it better than supers SoL moments.
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>>149547453
>accidentally
I'd accidentally all over her body if you know what I mean
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>>149547248
yes bat all his children look more like bulma than him, so he must have a lot of recessive traits
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>>149547779
Much like his hairline
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>>149537265
I still remember my older brother having Trunk's hairstyle for the whole later half of his teenage days. It all started with this chapter.
I got Gohan's bowlcut
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>>149547812
>getting the Moe Howard cut
Why anon?
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>>149547802
Thank god for that.
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>>149547874
It was back in 1996. I was like 6 and that faggot of a brother thought it was a good idea.
I still liked it though
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>>149547874
It's moe
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>>149547802
>Gotenks somehow gets the hairline when he fuses
Trunks has the balding genes in him, he's fucked
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>>149548257
But the balding genes usually come from the mother, don't they? If so he will be fine.
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>>149548340
Does that mean Gotenks is Goten and Trunk love child if Trunks was the women?
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>>149537610
I want this to happen on this Black saga, however I feel like Trunks won't die again.
>>
Would anyone be mad if Toei did a full on filler arc that lasted for a couple of months? Or would you guys hate that?
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>>149548788
Nope
Especially if this filler arc would be just slice of life
That would be nice
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>>149534026
Your fusion daughter dresses like an slut.
>>
>wahh gogeta vs vegito
>trunks has different hair in super
>implying vegito will have the same name

Itl probably be like

Govegao or Veku :^)
>>
why is trunks hair blue
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>>149548788
I'd like it even more if it gave us more stuff to make fun of Gohan for
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>>149535390
Not even the fucking planet is gonna be destroyed which is sad.
>>149535428
>Cherrypicking
>>
why is my balls blue
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>>149543329
>Humans use their growing intelligence to exploit and rape their environment and ultimately our precious planets

So that's why he didn't just destroy Earth. He only wants to kill the mortals, not the planet.
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>>149548933
>Gohan
>Not Piccolo
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>>149543370
That ending line is amazing. And even more hilarious when you consider, that we will probably soon get answer for that question.
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>>149549005
Pay attention man, the anime made that clear as well.
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>>149543370
>Gogeta has a halo
Huh, not many games remember that feature.
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>>149549083
I think that they'll defuse right away so Trunks gets a proper goodbye with Vegeta
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>>149543329
The first time ring was created by a mortal who made a time machine in universe 12, if that's right, correct? So then, not Trunks? Because he's in universe 7.

I guess that explicitly contradicts Xenoverse, then. I know it was never canon, but now it absolutely can't be.
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>>149534770
Vegeta is smug because Yamcha is taking the photo.
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>>149547453
Well Bra isnt used goods unlike her mom
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>>149549302
It is trunks. He just meant someone like the humans of universe 12.
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>>149549302
Xenoverse is in the far future though

Also, with all the time shenanigans in that game the number of rings is probably multiplyed by like a thousand
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>>149549302
>I guess that explicitly contradicts Xenoverse, then. I know it was never canon, but now it absolutely can't be.
It hurts.
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>>149549415
With the way she dresses at age 8, she will be used goods very soon
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>>149547192
He feels as if from Final Fantasy or even I dare say Naruto.
He definitely doesn't feel Dragon Ball.
Black and Zamasu were Dragon Ball, but Blamasu definitely doesn't.
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>>149549214
How? There is no way, unless they pull some shit with Zeno.
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>>149549429
>Also, with all the time shenanigans in that game the number of rings is probably multiplyed by like a thousand

No, the point of Xenoverse is that you're fixing timelines so that new universes aren't created. If you let them be, a new timeline, and therefore a new time ring, would be created. Supreme Kai of Time meshes the scrolls together after you get back from a mission and the tiny changes disappear.

When I first saw the time rings explanation, I thought it fit really well with Xenoverse, but now I'm not sure if U12 Kai is saying that the first branching time ring was or wasn't made by Trunks, since in Xenoverse, Supreme Kai of Time says that Trunks was the first person to ever change history.
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>>149547345
Even in Super in the copy Vegeta shit Gyalic Ho is described as being equal to Goku's Kamehameha.
Final Flash is the stronger one, it's basically Vegeta's equivalent of Genki Dama since it's a planet buster too.
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>>149549548
>Black
even that is questionable
the more powerful black becomes the more his blade changes.
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>>149547779
You do realize recessive genes are usually re more desireable ones right? High intellect, blonde hair, blue eyes are all recessive traits.
>>
>>149549548
>>149549623
Well the Kai are Gods of Creation. Why not see some more creative uses of that power?
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>>149549548
More like Devil May cry.
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>>149548878
They literally even destroyed Vegeta's chestpiece armor precisely so Vegetto's clothing will be identical to his Boo Saga outfit. It's pure nostalgiapandering and they won't change the name.
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>>149547383
>jojo
that's more with Hit with his time leap.
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>>149547192
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>>149549672
All of the DMC bosses would feel at home in Final Fantasy.
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>>149549623
Yeah the scythe was bullshit but the wrist blade wasn't. Do I really need to remind you that wrist blade was for the first time in Dragon Ball used by none other than The One himself? And it was MUCH longer than Zamasu's or Black's too.
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>>149534356
>is given the actual episode names like he asked for
>bitches about it being a dub

either extremely retarded or trolling, which makes sense because you would have to be an idiot to think dance>potara
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>>149549787
>Do I really need to remind you that wrist blade was for the first time in Dragon Ball used by none other than The One himself?
Salza?
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>>149549787
well about that the whole energy blade was used wayyy before vegito came to the picture by one of coolers butt slaves.
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>>149549839
>>149549868
Not canon Toei fillershit.
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>>149549936
You did say the first time in Dragonball.
That's still a part of it.
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>>149549936
but anon toei did it first and toriyama used the idea years later with vegito.
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>>149549959
I naturally meant canon but if you want to be specific then sure.
Either my point is that anyone saying that the wirst blade doesn't feel Dragon Ball clearly doesn't know Dragon Ball.
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>>149548906
He dyed his hair
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>>149547192
Yes, he feels different than most DBZ villains.

This is a good thing and part of why he's been so entertaining. think of how boring Black would have been if he did nothing but Kamehamehas, or if Zamasu just did his one or two different "Unique" Ki Blasts like Frieza with his finger laser (Death Beam) and Orb Projectile (Death Ball).

Beerus was a typical moveset, but BoG was the first new material in almost 20 years not counting the anniversary special, and a new starting point. Also his premise, design, character, are all great. Also, his giant ki blasts look better than the rest, but his strengths do not involve bringing new and "interesting" attacks to the table.

Seriously, it's all been done before and they did a good job keeping it new enough to not feel like Just another pissed off guy with a standard move set.
>>
>>149548906
Why anon, it was always blue.
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>>149549936
Super is also made by Toei
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>>149550196
>how boring Black would have been if he did nothing but Kamehamehas
He does use many of Goku's techniques.
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>>149550354
And written by Toriyama, stay asshurt.
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>>149550354
Toriyama still does the base script and all the character artwork.
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>>149550446
>>149550416
Didn't somebody say that Toei gave some ideas to AT?
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>>149550519
Toei pitched the concept of bringing back Trunks to Toriyama, the arc is still conceived by him however.
Basically the equivalent of them coming to Tori and saying "yo people love Trunks, think you could do something with him again?" and Tori was "Sure, I'll think of something".
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>>149533939

>garlic gun
>has nothing to do with food
>isnt even a gun

umm?
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SSG Cabba will appear during the tournament arc and will unlock Blue thanks to Vegeta.
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>>149533939

>vegeta is wearing different clothes than last time
>vegito still has the same outfit as before

quite triggering now that i think about it
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>>149550673
>Garlic gun
>Not shooting little Garlic Jrs.

RMYT...
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>>149550701
Here you go Gohanfag.
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>>149550673
Maybe it's a special technique passed down the Vegeta lineage
That's why it's food named
Becuse the user is a vegetable
Not sure about "gun" thou
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>>149550698
That's not even necessary. Goku has a button in his pocket to summon the King of All at the last moment, and he will probably say Zamasu is the 'new friend' he mentioned.
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>>149550746
>different
But he isn't.
His outfit is the same in Boo Saga as in Cell Saga, minus the armor chestpiece.
And guess what, they conveniently had Vegeta's armor chestpiece destroyed by Zamasu's lightning in last episode so now he's down to just the jumpsuit, gloves and boots, you know, the parts that show up on Vegetto.
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>>149550762
Man don't summon him here too.
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>>149550797

>His outfit is the same in Boo Saga as in Cell Saga, minus the armor chestpiece.

its not though
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>>149550801
Sorry anon, I couldn't help it.
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>>149533939

> galick gun does better than final flash in super most of the time
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>>149549548
>Final Fantasy
Insulting
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>>149539673
Vegeta didn't deserve that
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>>149550870
Shit you're right, I forgot it was sleeveless version of the jumpsuit.
Either way point still stands, top half with the chestpiece of Vegeta's outfit got conveniently blown away right before they get to fuse.
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>>149551197

vegitos shirt in super should still have sleeves

ree etc
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>>149551264
You could say it was always sleeveless because of Goku's part of the outfit being sleeveless. It's actually a very convenient excuse that makes perfect sense.
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>>149551264
Goku doesn't have sleeves though, so the sleevelessness may be pulled from Goku's clothes.
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>>149551313
>>149551318

acceptable i guess

ill just shut the fuck up now
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>>149534432
> Gogeta exists for barely a minute in M12
> Is a lame and irresponsible version of Vegetto in GT
> "Gogeta is still cooler."

Yea ok
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>>149551156
>Not liking FF villains
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>>149534026
Why does anyone here even acknowledge DB Multiverse?
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>>149554138
This current arc, especially the half saiyan half kai villain, is surprisingly similar in various aspects.
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>>149549936
Semicanon
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>>149547432
NO U
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>>149547779
all about that dominant power baby
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>>149547952
>implying widow's peak isn't the best
>>
Reminder that this should've been the Boo Saga opening instead of the We Gotta Power shit.

https://u.nya.is/eknbbt.webm

It's also the best thing about Yo Son Goku and his Friends Return
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>>149549601
>described as equal
They can say that's how it is, but that isn't what was shown to be the case.

>planet buster
Fucking anything can be. I don't even know why that guy questioned Galick Gun being stronger. It's clearly the case. A better Kamehameha (that didn't have to be lifted off some old pervert *his life's work*) made by Vegeta (the man who makes tons of techniques and hardly reuses any named stuff).

>>149549623
The scythe was just fucking silly (the power it had was fine as a dimension slash, but they just had to fuck it up with the weird clone shit). Vegetto just does this sort of technique better (and is the canon source of such a move).

>>149549684
A regrettable fact, though I don't get the impression they'll have a smug Vegetto beating their Super Zammy quite like how it was with Buuhan though that should definitely be the case. The immortality holding over wouldn't even make sense for a new being.

>>149549787
Just so.

>>149539673
Undefeated against Goku.
>>
>>149533939

Stop with the Vegeta inferiority complex. He and Trunks successfully pushed back Zamasu's attack. Goku is even with it, but will probably lose to it this week unless someone helps him, which they will.
>>
>>149557342
>Undefeated against Goku.
He was defeated in his first appearance.
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>>149557471
Not by Goku.
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>>149557444
Not likely. Toei will have their fun.

>>149557471
see: >>149557504
>>
>>149557578
>after he defeated Vegeta
>>
>>149557624

Oozaru Vegeta defeated Goku. Or are you one of those weirdos who thinks Oozaru form doesn't count for some reason? If Kaioken counts, Oozaru counts. It's that simple.
>>
>>149557471
>>149557624

>Wrecks Goku
>Goku has to use Kaioken x3 to even keep up with Vegeta at which point it becomes equal battle
>Vegeta says fuck it, Gyallic Ho time
>Goku has to use Kaioken x4 to even win the beam struggle
>Goku now lies completely broken, his body shattered by Kaiocucking himself too hard
>Vegeta only gets minor injuries from Goku's full powered Kaioken x4
>Vegeta comes back, beats him again
>To drive salt even harder, Vegeta goes Oozaru and breaks every single fucking bone in Goku's body because fuck you, Overkill
>desperate Goku tries using Genki Dama but fails
>Gohan, Kuririn and Yajirobe come in to save the day
>Goku lies broken till the very end
>After combined forces of Kuririn, Yajirobe and Gohan, Vegeta finally gets defeated by Oozaru Gohan
>Goku's only contribution is asking Kuririn not to kill Vegeta

Sorry but Vegeta blew Goku the fuck out.
Goku's trump card, the Kaiocuck, failed and broke his body and then Vegeta just broke all his bones for lulz to assert full dominance.
>>
>>149534232
does elder kai have a vag
>>
>>149557756
Clearly no otherwise he wouldn't look at pichi pichi gals
>>
>>149557335
I still don't understand what the three red lights dropping at 55 seconds is meant to be. I assumed it was the three Saiyan pods dropping originally, but when this came out and they didn't update it like they did with the rest of the opening, I figured it was meant to be something else.
>>
>>149549585
maybe someone else changed history to change who the first person to change history was
>>
>>149557624
>>
If Vegito have a son who will it belong to after the unfuse? Or is it like a third diferent DNA?
>>
>>149558242
Would it be cheating if Vegito slept with either wife?

It's technically half.
>>
>>149543329
I want Beerus and Kaioshin to have more interactions with each other.
>>
>>149557656
KK is a technique where Oozaru is a transformation (for what that matters). Vegeta used a technique (costing him power) to access his transformation (owed to Piccolo's smart choice to take out the Moon before the Saiyan's arrive *who planned their arrival around it as a precaution*).

Vegeta didn't need it though. Goku's KKx4 wasn't enough to do any notable damage (though it really should have destroyed Vegeta given the power gap). If he's that durable, Goku was in trouble. Especially given that higher KK being used (much less kept up) would become a problem to sustain.

NOTE: These are the same sorts that cry about how Goku could have used SS3 in the second fight (yet don't want to allow for Oozaru *which only Vegeta was ever shown to be able to force or control*). The same lot whining about Majin while ignoring SKW (Oozaru as a passive *which Goku still benefits from*).

>>149557667
>keep up
KKx3 made Goku stronger by enough that it became one-sided. Galick Gun matching Kamehameha means it is absurdly better as a technique (18K vs 24K). KKx4's power advantage was needed to overwhelm it (32K).

>completely broken
He could still get around a little as shown in his weak attempts to resist Oozaru Vegeta. There would still be a fight, but a losing one.

>breaks every bone
That was after stuffing the SB (set-up with Solar Flare for the ten second opening, but Vegeta happened to learn sensing ki at that moment). Based on the halved bomb only severely damaging a depowered Vegeta, The slightly nerfed Oozaru version would be able to tank the full power SB he had anyway (though with damage).

>lies broken
He passes the SB remnants to Krillin, tells Gohan to knock it back and manages to guide Oozaru Gohan. He was physically incapable of participating (already defeated in that regard *as he himself notes*).

>defeated by Oozaru Gohan
Yes, after defeating Gohan, he didn't leave himself energy enough to get clear of the giant ape ass heading his way.
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>>149558242
Maybe series will give you answer. As is suspiciously right time for pictured to be conceived.
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>>149558271
They will solve that with canonizing Bulchi.
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>>149558885
>madman AT remembers Launch
>gives her Vegetto
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>>149548906
His hair is not blue, he is actually blonde.
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>>149559206
Dude, that's Bulchi. Not Launch.
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>>149533939
Where am I?
>>
>>149559334
on /a/. Vegito came back.
>>
>>149545204
It's called being pedantic.
>>
>>149549868
>>149549936
Show some respect to Salza you fucking plebs
>>149555586
Nice quads
>>
>>149559295
You having a giggle (pretending not to comprehend the jest)? Past characters are being dredged up. The joke was Launch being remembered (and getting her own Saiyan like Mai). The fusion in question was merely used for the topic of pairing off Vegetto (as if AT would ever remember the character outside an interview with another random answer to her fate with Tien *never so much as forcing him into a relationship was Chi-Chi did Goku*).
>>
>>149558698
actually I think she was already concieved...
>>
>>149558885
>double the frypan
>double the power
Lads I think Black might be fucked
>>
>>149559778
When?
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>>149550196
>Beerus was a typical moveset
I'm glad Super's retelling of BoG expanded his moveset a bit. None of it was revolutionary, but it was good.
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>>149558584
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How the fuck will they ram all the vegito and mutation shit in ONE episode ? This phasing doesn't make sense
>>
vegeta wins again
>>
>>149559980
for a while, Bulma already had the craving for cake which is unusual.
After the tourney thats for sure, the sooner we get Brah the better.
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>>149562982
>Bulma already had the craving for cake which is unusual.
Unusual? How? And also when?
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>>149535100
>Goku's caring nature

Someone's watching bad dubs again.
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>>149565323
Wrong image
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>>149558885
>> bulma and chichi fusion
O-oh.. This was a thing? my peepee jumped in exictement.
>>
>>149565345
Classic canon Goku.
>>
>>149533939
what the fuck did you just call me kiddo?
>>
>Trunks and Goten turn Super Saiyan without even trying

Why?
>>
>>149534576
Gogeta would have been in DBZ if they hadn't made that Fusion Reborn movie
>>
>>149566122
I think it's so Gotenks could have the SSJ already unlocked.
>>
>>149566339

It'd be more of a surprise if he unlocked it during his time in the time chamber
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>>149565736
Just simple art. Nothing more.
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>>149534232
What baffles me about this video is how they are wearing different sets of potara and it still works..
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>>149536207
vegeta and goku should have stayed dead.
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>>149534632
Except he doesn't exist canonically.
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>>149533939
So how come Beerus doesn't just use the potara to fuse with his Kai counterpart?
Why don't all the gods do that?
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