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Why is Mami so weak minded? If she would have kept sane she could

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Why is Mami so weak minded? If she would have kept sane she could have helped against Walpurgis.
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she died first once against walpurgis
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>>149406612
That didn't end well in the first timeline.
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>>149406612
Would you keep sane if you discovered your fate to become a witch? I don't think so.
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>>149408799
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>>149408799
Would probably do some humanity rejection shit and start doing over the top John poses while fighting witches
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>>149408974
Jojo*
Fuck this phone
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>>149406612
Nigga, she was in the business for 3 fucking years, fuck off
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>>149409135
Was it 3? I don't remember it being so long.
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>>149409065
>Not taking out the iphone correction
your brought this to yourself
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I didn't know it was still a thing to get on the girls for not being superwomen. They're schoolgirls who got roped into some crazy shit. This isn't "just pull yourself up by your bootscraps" kind of stuff; in fact, it may criticize that mentality.

Look what became of Homura, the toughest girl in the outfit. She stayed sane for long enough and was fucked up on the inside like any person who's gone through hell.
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Yeah things would have been alot easier if she had kept her head in straight.
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>>149406612
>if she would have kept sane
She just lost her head, that's all.
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>>149409788
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>>149408974
I REJECT MY HUMANITY, JOJOHN!
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>>149406612
>Mami is weak minded because she went insane
>Mami went insane because she is weak minded
Great circular logic
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>>149410331
More like
>Mami went insane, which shows she is weak minded
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I don't blame Mami, but I'm still disgusted by her murdering her friends.
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>>149406612
You didn't watch episode 10 did you.
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>>149410434
It's called a mercy killing. The only thing wrong with it was that it was shortsighted, since it didn't do anything to help all of the countless other megucas around the world.
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>>149410395
I don't think it's right to trivialize mental health like that. You don't choose to be sane or not.
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>>149410689
It's semantics at this point, I'm sure you understand what OP meant.
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>>149410721
Yeah I did. That's my answer.
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>>149410780
I'm sure OP will put a trigger warning next time then
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>>149410820
I'm not the same anon. Just saying he's dumb.
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>>149408857
They must have forgotten that kyoko did not go insane after discovering the fate of magical girls.
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>>149410540
She almost doomed the whole world. Fuck her, if she wanted to off herself then she has the right to but she should not have touched the other megucas. The rest wanted to fight their own fate and she didn't even give them the chance.
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>>149411187
Kyoko is pretty much the sanest one
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>>149411562
Kyouko had a tougher past compared to Mami.
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>>149411763
Yet she still sacrified herself for Sayaka.
Based.
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>>149412021
>sacrified
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>>149412021
Yes, Kyouko is amazing.
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>>149411763
How does Mami go crazy when Kyoko is the reason her family was killed?
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>>149406612
Her head wasn't screwed on tightly.
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Mami mind us frail. If she was more collected and not easily broken she might have even survived Charlotte.
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>Mami
>weak minded
Either a good troll or a dumbnut who didn't even understand the show
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>>149411417
She just lost her head.
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>>149415773
She did easily break down after finding out a harsh truth.
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>>149411417
>How dare a broken and traumatized person not behave in a sane manner
It may have a warped sense of responsibility, feeling guilty for roping some of the girls into this. But I'm sure Mami didn't want to die alone.

Only rational characters are QB, an alien, and Homu, who's messed up inside and gives mad.
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>>149416743
*She may
*goes mad
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>>149416743
QB is at fault.
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>>149409934
All head jokes aside Mami should have been most mentally stable. Crippling loneliness must be really terrible.
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>>149408799
Mami, as well as the others, risked the the possibility of death every night she decided to go out and fight witches. If I was in a line of work like that I'd certainly like to think that I could go out with some dignity.
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>>149417429
She has only been alone for a year or so.

>>149417892
What she didn't know is that death wasn't a possiblilty. Death was actually going to happen.
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>>149406612

>orphanized high school girl suffering from loneliness, depression and survivor's guilty forced to face eldritch abominations every night finally have a mental breakdown

Au contraire, my friend. She's the strongest meguca out there.
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>>149418329
Kyouko made a wish that resulted in the death of her family. She also faces said eldritch abominations. In the end, she didn't not suffer a mental breakdown after aquiring knowledge of what witches really are.
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I wouldn't call Mami weak-minded so much as she just has a different idea on how to deal with the witch problem. Killing other magical girls to stop them from becoming witches isn't the wrong thing to do.

Still, pic related gives no fucks and does what she wants.
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>>149418897
*acquiring

Dang.
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>>149406612
She still died.
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>>149413169
Different mind set.
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>>149406612
Yeah. Fuck feeling things. She's such a wimp.
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Mami tried to keep her idealism no matter what and essentially broke from the strain. Kyouko immediately became bitter and cynical and used that as a coping mechanism, so she didn't have anywhere to fall.
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>>149420804
I see your point, but aside from idealism, Mami did suffer from crippling loneliness. Well it's for the same reasons, as Mami tried to maintain a somewhat normal life and probably didn't realize how much of a shithole she stepped in.

Poor megucas.
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>>149409221
You meant 'upon yourself'.
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Why didn't qb sign Uiharu as a magical girl?
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>>149406612
Mami is probably the only one who could have beat Walpurgis on her own. Let me remind you Homura fags that Mami is 3-0 against Homura.

1) In episode 3 Mami got tired of Homura mouthing off and wrapped her up in those ribbons. Mami could have finished her right there.
2) In Homu's flashback it was the same story. Mami caught Homura in a trap and Madoka was forced to save her.
3) In the Rebellion movie, Mami won again. Despite Homura's years of accumulated experience, she still couldn't beat Mami in a 1 on 1 duel. Sayaka ended up bailing Homura out. Sayaka even told Homura that is was foolish of her to think she could stand a chance against Mami on her own.

In the Concept movie they describe Mami as a goddess of war. It is pretty clear that she is the strongest meguca. Homu managed to clown Sayaka and Kyoko in combat, so it is implied that she's the second strongest character in the series. Madoka's strength in the series isn't fully understood. In the flashbacks she seemed pretty strong, but I think it's her bravery that makes her special.
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>>149422329
Mami gets rekt by Charlotte in the series and Kyoko in TDS though
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>>149422378
>TDS
Not canon.
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>>149422427
Still got rekt
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>>149422329
>Mami is probably the only one who could have beat Walpurgis on her own
Well that clearly didn't work out
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Why is Lawnchair ban evading? He admitted to being Waffle-chan. Must he take advantage of mods?

>>149418121
This is why everyone must read the fine print or ask as many questions as possible. Coobs withheld lots of information knowing that if they knew towards the beginning they would decline.
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>>149406612
I want to Fuck mami in the ass and then break her back
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>>149422329
>Mamifags actually believe this
Homura's the weakest magical girl outside of her broken ability. Mami is literally a hard counter to Homura's one ability. Outside of that, she dies against Walpurgisnacht and Charlotte.

In terms of the Concept Movie, they used the name Guan Yu, the Chinese "god of battle" figure from Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Considering Butcher is a CaoCaofag, Mami is either going to lose her head again or be important in Madoka's reconciliation with Homura.
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Discussion over.
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She only wanted friends. Now that she got one it cost her.
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>>149422791
H-h-hentai!
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>>149422994
Delicious happy blonde with tits. Lovely.
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>>149422576
Kyubey is cute for a reason.

>>149423038
Don't get me wrong, breast are lovely. In fact, they are life, but don't sexualize the megucas.
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>>149422329

Homura relies too much on her magic. Even Sayaka managed to disable Homura jamming her shield with the tip of her sword. Mami literally mastered her ribbons, you can't beat that with cheap tricks.
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>>149409135
Homura in business for more than 20 years, the universe ended one time and when she was almost a witch with QB help she reversed the whole shit, that's the diamond magical girl for ya not even god can fully break her.
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jesus fucking christ it's been half a decade let it go
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>>149422675
Her time travel abilities are overrated. Homura is only dangerous to people who she can take off guard. Once the girls figure out her power they are able to beat her. Just look at when Homu was confronted by Sayaka in Rebellion. As soon as Homu tried to manipulate time Sayaka shut that shit down real fast.

In order to balance Homura's time hax out, the writers had to give her inferior combat skills. When she couldn't stop time against Mami, she gave up and relied on trickery. Think back in the series. Whenever all of the girls transformed for the first time they were competent in battle. Sayaka was able to fight on par with Kyoko after only two days of transforming. Homura on the other hand took weeks of training before she was competent.

Homu is a beta female and nerd. She was flunking her PE classes and was struggling in Calc I. She was so depressed that she was considering killing herself before the main characters saved her. She had no friends and was destined to be a perma-lesbian virgin.
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>>149423149
Homu is a good girl
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>>149422329
Actually Mami is simply better at magical girl fighting than actual witch fight, anyways she cant win against Homura without prep time and her power is literal counter for Homura power.
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>>149423149
When Homu started as a magical girl she had a heart condition while Sayaka didn't.
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>>149423137
>Homura relies too much on her magic. Even Sayaka managed to disable Homura jamming her shield with the tip of her sword
I disagree. Sayaka only caught Homura off-guard because she knew about her power. If anything, Homura was only guilty of underestimating Sayaka in that first encounter, which she quickly rectified.
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>>149423399
That sidekick has pretty good form. Not excellent, but not bad either. And notice how non-magic Homura still managed to get the better of Sayaka, a natural close-range fighter.
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>>149422994

how can other magical girls even compete? I bet she smells like fancy body lotion all the time
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>>149423492
I mean it's not like Sayaka was actually fighting, she just wanted to talk and be spooky.
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>>149422329
And you know what the key to each of those fights was? Homura had no way of knowing that Mami would attack her first. Homura's goal was to save Mami, not kill her.

And reminder that Mami died to Walpurgisnacht with Madoka in timeline 1, and also died with Madoka and Homura in timeline 2.

>>149423137
Oh, so attacking someone who has no intention to harm you and tying up with magical ribbons isn't a "cheap trick" or "relying on magic" because there's no way she'd be able to beat Homura otherwise.
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>>149423563
A Homu vs. Mami fight essentially relies on who gets the drop on the other one. Neither one would be able to win without acting first.
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>>149423563

>attacking someone who has no intention to harm you

Homura did that. Mami was just protecting Bebe.

>tying up with magical ribbons isn't a "cheap trick

It isn't. Mami outsmarted Homura because she noticed her ill intentions.
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>>149423538
Making men like me head over heels for her.
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>>149423563
A conversation about sucker punches is silly, so it's not even worth mentioning. All of the girls can be killed by breaking their gems, so of course the element of surprise is really important. In the movies there was no sucker punches. Mami confronted Homu and even talked to her before they fought. The same with Sayaka vs Homu.

>>149423399
Homu is so physically slow that Sayaka was able to close the distance and attack her. The only way I can explain that is that Homu isn't as physically strong as the other girls.
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>>149423628
That, or, if they attack at the same time, it's a matter of distance. If Homura is far enough away, her time stop would go off before the ribbons hit her.

>>149423659
Right, because Homura is totally malicious for failing to conclude that the obvious witch is there to help her.
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>>149423731
Mami put a ribbon on her before Homura attacked Nagisa.

A distance of about 2 meters.
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>>149423628
This
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The thing about Homura vs Mami is that neither of them were trying to kill the other. Who's to say Mami was even trying the entire time? If she was, then Homura can clearly go toe-to-toe with her on what was pretty much an even fight.

Yet if Homura gets the drop on ANYONE, they dead.
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>>149423731
I mean it would make sense that she doesn't need to be as strong since she usually fights indirectly.

Still strong enough to knock out Seyiku with a shield bash in episode 6 at least.

>>149423760
White room scenarios are dumb, who cares.
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>>149423871
They didn't want to kill each other. Can't say the same for Bebe. Homura was ready to tear her up.
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>>149423966
Bebe deserved it for even being in that movie. QB was the much more logical choice for Homura to suspect, as she clearly viewed him as the real enemy, which she demonstrates at the end of Rebellion.
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Homura is the weakest meguca and should fear the strong.

>BTFO by mami multiple times
>BTFO by walpurgis multiple times
>BTFO by sayaka
>"kyoko pls help me" no
>friendzoned by her lesbian lover
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>>149424081
She was just retarded. If she wanted to really kill anyone she could have just stop time and *teleports behind you* and be done with it.
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>>149423871
First of all, Mami won in the end. We can't forget this. Secondly, they weren't even. Homu couldn't keep up with Mami's endurance so she panicked and tried to trick Mami. Also, Homu has years of accumulated experience from her time manipulation yet she's still struggling against Mami. What does that say about Homu?

>Yet if Homura gets the drop on ANYONE, they dead.
I agree with this since Homu's time manipulation abilities give her an advantage over the other characters. But it is also true that all of the characters can be killed by attacking their gems. So even you and I could kill any of the main characters if we "got the drop" on them. That's the worse type of kryptonite ever. They have to keep their soul gems close or they lose control of their body, and any force applied to the soul gem causes them great pain. Even a tiny cat like Kyubey was able to bring Sayaka to her knees by lightly pressing down on her gem.
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>>149411187
they didn't, which is why she was yhe one homura went to for help in rebellion

so she wasn't forgotten but she wouldn't stand a chance against walpurgis
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>>149424050
Remember, Kyubey was just skeptical about Law of Cycles. Homura had reason to believe he didn't know. It was only him trying to see if LoC was real and trying to take control of her that she targeted him post Madokami world.
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>>149424187
>Homu couldn't keep up with Mami's endurance
Even Mami said it was a stalemate. Homura was just trying to end it quickly.

>Also, Homu has years of accumulated experience from her time manipulation yet she's still struggling against Mami
That she has a hard time fighting if her magic is disabled? The same goes for any magical girl. Take away Mami's ribbons, and she can't even make her guns. Again, Mami negated Homura's magic even before she attacked Nagisa. Mami didn't win in the end, she won in the beginning because she got the first strike.
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>>149424187
>Even a tiny cat like Kyubey was able to bring Sayaka to her knees by lightly pressing down on her gem.
That isn't what he was doing at all. He was doing some QB magic to her.

Though Mami may have won in the end, she had a MASSIVE advantage over Homura. Everyone knows that Homura is physically weak, she started off in the hospital, after all. But her time-stopping power is absolutely incredible. Let's not forget that she casually killed the witch that killed Mami, though she'd had lots of practice at that point.
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>>149406612
She needs to have someone jammed into her __life__ to stabilize. Kyouko or Madoka or Nagisa will do. She hates Homura though.
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>>149406612
Her head wasn't screwed on tight if you ask me.
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