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Why can't she just get a gun? Only an idiot would fight

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Why can't she just get a gun? Only an idiot would fight with a knife, what the fuck man?

What kind of a retard made a script about a girl fighting with a knife or katana in a modern world when firearms are existing?

>inb4 it's Japan and you can't have a gun

Please, she's a daughter of some Yakuza family.
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anime
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>>149392462
I don't think guns are gonna do anything against ghosts. Plus gun fights are just boring to watch compared to melee fights.
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>>149392722
>against ghosts

Ghosts are for loving and caring
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>>149392462
best girl
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>>149392462
Try to cut something with a gun without wasting hundreds of bullets
I dare you
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>>149392462
How the hell would she be able to use her MEODP with a gun? That seems stupid.
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>>149392722
>gun fights are just boring to watch

Go fuck yourself. Gun fights are the best.
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>>149392462
Consider how her power works, then come back when you realize how stupid you are.
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>>149392462
Lol
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>>149393439
Like anyone would dispute that. Touko is a close second, but Shiki a best.
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>>149394295
>>149394060
Just put a bullet in that dot, you morons.
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>>149392462
Because a big part of Shiki's character is her doing things because she things finds pleasure in it rather than being effective.

Same reason why she outright warns Fujino in 3 before jumping at her, because Shiki is not a rational person when it becomes to fighting.
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>>149394832
Shiki is a NEET
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>>149394832
Shiki uses a dagger because fun things are fun!
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>>149394669
What about objects that don't have dots?
How does she use her alternate persona, who was created by ritual use of cutting weapons?
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>>149394594
2nd best girl
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>>149395085
>What about objects that don't have dots?
[citation needed]
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new movie never ever
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>>149395174
While it's implied that everything has lines and dots, Shiki can't always see them. Tohno often couldn't see dots, at least at the beginning.
But it's pointless, as Shiki won't use guns because of the ritual thing.
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>>149395161
>>149394594
Dirty Red.
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>>149395225
Shiki has big boobs now
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>>149395369
We really need more of long haired void Shiki.
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>>149395314
whats dis?
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>>149395473
>he doesn't know
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>>149395499
i dunno senpai
enlighten me
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>>149395540
It's Aoko, Touko's sister.

That's from the vn Mahoutsukai no yoru, she also has a similar role to Touko herself but for the other Shiki in Tsukihime.
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>>149395589
oh, thx
is it translated?
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>>149395665
Not fully. About 6 chapters out of 13 plus side stories I think.
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>>149395665
Only partially, I think 5 or 6 chapters are out.
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>>149395694
>>149395720
thank yuo
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>>149392462

Got you covered pham
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>>149395694
>>149395720
also nyaan wont take me anywhere
download to the game?
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>>149395849
delete this
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>>149395843
Try nrvsqsr.
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>>149395784
Why a revolver, though?
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>>149395997
Because a clip would get knocked around during a sword fight and either become loose or get knocked askew and not be able to fire.

With a revolver setup you don't have to worry about your enemy's sword clashing with your clip and breaking it off.
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>>149396170
>clip

Also there are guns with flush magazines. hell, in the gunblade's case, a tube loading mechanism would be even better.
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>>149396236
>i want my tsukihime remake now
>2013

Sorry, busy milking Fate/Shit.
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>>149394669
Do you even realize how absurdly hard that would be?
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>>149394669
Ryougi doesn't see points
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Not sure if anyone cares, but volume one of "Faust" was scanned, and contains an official translation of Kara no Kyoukai's first chapter. It's MUCH better than either of the fan translations, a shame Del Ray went defunct.
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>>149396324
Get good Shiki you lazy NEET
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>>149392722

Gun/bow fights are often more strategic and less flashy, which I can understand why most people wouldn't be into them.
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Anyone know if any place has the newest parts of the manga?

All sites I find only have up to the start of part 4.
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>>149393439
This is a woman, mate.
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>>149392462
>has a power that lets you cut anything
>thinks a gun would be useful at all
I know you americans have a gun fetish, but do some thinking please.
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>>149395225
What a shame
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>>149392462
>Why can't she just get a gun? Only an idiot would fight with a knife, what the fuck man?

Guns are shit tier

1/2
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>>149402269
2/2
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I don't like Fate but I liked KnK
Should I read Tsukihime?
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>>149402269
>>149402313

>all that bullshit

How do you read something like this without getting a headache?
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>>149403755
Imagine this is a blind MC too
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>>149403755
Human mind can process a lot, as babies we just learn to tune it out because focusing on few important things is more efficient.
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>>149395005
DELETE THIS
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>>149396157
I saw this earlier on the panda, more KnK OC is always great
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>>149392462
>tfw you used to have a ryougi gf but you dumped her because she was too like ryougi
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>>149402315
yes
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>>149407144
But anon
Figurines can't show emotions even when they want to
She probably loved you and you dumbed her into trash
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>>149405185
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>>149408206
I loved you anon but you threw me into the trash.
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>got a Shiki nendoroid coming at the end of the month
I'll need to find 10 days to not eat, but it was worth it.
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>>149392462
>>149393439
nothing against KnK, but it's pretty sad that nobody gave a shit about it for roughly a decade before realizing "oh, the main character is a cute girl" and proceeded to go nuts
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>>149408991
It wasn't translated you fucking idiot.
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>>149409043
People didn't really care about it in japan either till ryogi started getting cameos in everything

'sides, how long did it take for HA to get translated but people still knew roughly what stuff happened in it.
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>>149395387
Best Fate girl.
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>>149408732
Shiki was my very first nendo.
Pic related.
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>>149393439
but that's not Lio__
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How freaky is Shiki
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>>149409566
Depends on when in the story you're looking, she goes from kinda freaky to really freaky to almost normal.
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Should I watch these movies? I remember DLing them a long time ago and finishing the first one, then getting into the second one and there was some kid who she let stay in her apartment and it wasn't really that enjoyable, are the other ones better?
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I don't know if Shiki can shoot "lines of death"
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Rate the garden of sinners movie from best to worst
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>>149410581
5>3>7>4>2>1>MF >>>6

6 is the only I would call bad though.
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>>149392462
Nasu is a 'weeb' and hates guns.

>>149392722
>Plus gun fights are just boring to watch compared to melee fights.
Factually wrong.
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>>149410581
2 > The rest of them.
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>>149395387
When did the scene at the bottom happen? I never recall them showing the aftermath
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>>149392462
What anime is dis
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>>149412734
Tsukihime
In episode 7 Shiki turns into a girl and it sticks until last episode
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>>149409685
Sphere's art is really good but the divergences from the movies are often jarring. Unless that's how it happened in the novels?
>Shiki wearing trousers in Mujun Rasen
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>>149413050
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>>149413088
I mean, she looks hot. Dem hips. But somehow it ruins the mood when she's fighting the dolls.
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>>149413088
Scans where?
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She got licked in the movies
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>>149410206
That's the plot of the 5th movie you're describing, you should probably double check the order before you have another go.
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>>149392462
>she's a daughter of some Yakuza family

Trope always gonna have the sword bro.
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>>149415134
2nd movie even has that scene with her father teaching her how to sword fight, it's required.
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>>149412978
How is tsukihime connected with fate? She appears in both series.
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>>149415758
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>>149415993
I mean, do characters of both series coexist?
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>>149416338
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Kischur_Zelretch_Schweinorg
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>>149392462
Because:

1. She's stronger with a knife.
2. Japan bans civilian guns.
3. Guns are disgusting weapons.
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>you will never ever get to see void Shiki fucking shit up

Why live
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>>149416338
With Nasu recent retcon all 3 series (KnK, Tsukihime and Fate) are seperate universes.
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>>149416667
Grand Order have void Shiki
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KnK event rerun when? I want my free 4* Assassin Shiki
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>>149416696
Sorry I meant in anime form
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>>149416696
And it's one of the worst Sabers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GPE9K_Wnus
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>>149392462
Because you can't cut lines with bullets
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>>149416783
Because there just too many AoE Sabers.
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>>149396324
M8 she fucking lands hits on the dots by THROWING HER FUCKING KNIFE AT THEM. A gun would be trivial in comparison.

The real reason is because Nasu originally wrote the MEoDP to only work in melee range (because his chuu2 soul prefers knife fights to gun fights) but the movies removed that limitation so the reason becomes Shiki's personal preference (she REALLY likes knives).
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>>149416816
Not with that attitude!
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>>149392462
Because she loves blades, this has been said many times in the movies.
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>>149416816

>what are flechettes
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>>149392722
Go watch an old John Woo movie and realize how wrong you are.
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>>149416674
>With Nasu recent retcon all 3 series (KnK, Tsukihime and Fate) are seperate universes.
Explain
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>>149416937
I swear, even with her having a child and getting lewd artworks like those, Ryougi Shiki still remains pure to me. She's like, an absolute level of purity that you just cannot defile nor taint.
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>>149417061
She's one of those girls you just can't fap to, like Watashi from Jintai
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>>149417001
It's hardly a "recent" retcon but KnK and Tsukihime can't exist in the same universe for several reasons.

Melty Blood makes it explicit by summoning Ryougi from an alternate timeline to the universe the game takes place in.

As for Fate, the series spans multiple universes anyways. Not so sure on Nasu's current stance as to whether FSN and Tsukihime share a universe or not.
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>>149417001
New stuff
>Dead Apostle
>Those who have become vampires by having their blood sucked by True Ancestors or other Dead Apostles. Dead Apostles encompass most of the beings referred to as vampires. They possess bodies that are nearly immortal, but cannot withstand the light of the sun. ...The people living in those worlds would have no way of knowing this, but the Twenty-Seven Dead Apostle Ancestors, said to be the apex of the Dead Apostles, do not exist in worlds where Heroic Spirit summoning is possible.
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>>149417142
This is all kinds of stupid as it retcons events from Fate/Zero and even from Fate/strange fake as the assassin in that remembers seeing Nero Chaos and bunch of other dead apostles during the crusades
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Because while in real life guns are the shit and greatest weapon, in anime swords and sword fights are always 120% superior and more fun to watch
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>>149417061
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Knaifu is waifu good for those with no laifu.
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>>149417191
DA can exist in Fate. It just they are weaker and there won't be 27 DAA. DA and Servants are opposites, if one side grow stronger the other get weaker
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>>149417256
So where does ORT fit in all that because Angry Manjew brings it and great beast up. Not to mention the goal of the dead apostle master in Fate/strange fake is to wake up ORT and see the world burn
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>>149417322
ORT is Type Mercury, an alien, it doesn't affect it.
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>>149417392
It's classified as a DAA.
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>>149417407
Because it killed one DAA and by the rules of DAA took his place. It only matters for DA, vampires. Primate Murder wouldn't be affected either
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At this point we can expect that Nasu has forgotten half of the stuff he half-heartedly setup back in the day and turn it all into a cookie cutter mold. Unfortunately it seems that the people working on spinoffs for him did not get the memo
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The thought of Shiki fighting with a gun and causing a huge fucking loud commotion with an illegal weapon every time she fights is so stupid. Even the cool image of using MEoDP with a gun is ruined by how much of a bad idea that is.
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>>149392462
“Do you want to know why she uses a knife? You see, guns are too quick. You can’t savor all of the little…emotions. In their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way… she knew her target's friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards?”
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>>149417685
>The thought of Shiki fighting with a gun and causing a huge fucking loud commotion with an illegal weapon every time she fights is so stupid. Even the cool image of using MEoDP with a gun is ruined by how much of a bad idea that is.
You say that like her going around knifing people isn't just as bad.
And she's a yakuza princess. The police aren't going to fuck with her.
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Because she's a super traditional autist and doesn't use ANY sort of modern conveniences.
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You know, it always kind of bothered me how Nasu wrote Shiki's split personality as an important trait passed down in her family but then proceeded to make Shiki the ONLY ONE IN HER FAMILY TO MANIFEST IT.

Her brother failed to manifest it.
Mana failed to manifest it.
Her father probably did but it's never fucking relevant or shown at all.
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>>149417191
What does it retcon from Fate Zero?
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>>149417250
Was it rape?
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>>149417866
Nothing if we are going with >>149417142
but some form of source would be nice
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>>149417934
The source is the "死徒" section of the MB manga that recently finished. This glossary came with the first volume. To be honest, all it seems to imply is that the DAA organization doesn't exist.(Probably because they were never strong enough to create it)
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>>149417801
Mana is a normal girl. She need to stay that way.
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>>149417801
I don't get it, why do you think Shiki would let her daughter be put through the same shit she was?
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>>149417142
This certainly makes the Nasuverse seem less expansive and interesting. I think I'll just ignore this, as I did in the several years prior to him making this decision. I don't see how this could possibly add the world in anyway, nor does it really make sense. The 27 Dead Apostles, such as Roa, Nero, and Wallachia, are really just highly competent magi who were also vampires. Kiritsugu's dad was already on track to becoming something like that, and so was the bee user from the plane.
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>>149418058
Speaking of which, is anyone working on translating that? I'm curious what's the Melty Blood and Grand Order connection
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>>149417222
No magic guns>>>swords everytime in anime.
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This thread is a pretty good example of how shit the entire fandom is. Bunch of nutters trying to discuss the lore seriously and then possible seamonkeys sperging which is cooler, guns or swords
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>>149418058
Also in Fate/Labyrinth there's info that DA are weaker in worlds where HS can be summoned
>英霊がサーヴァントとして召喚され得る世界では死徒は大きな力を持たない(La byrint hより)。
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>>149392462
>cutting lines with a gun
How would that work, you dumb dumb?

>>149410917
Episode 5, I think. They showed it while Taiga talked about it.
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>>149418211
>discussing lore seriously = bad fanbase
What? I don't follow.
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>>149417089
>mfw fapped to both of them several times
You're too pure, anon. I think more pure/unsexual girls can actually be more attractive.
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Greatest bait I seen in a while.

Good job, OP
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>>149418243
I'm referring to the deep divide between people interested in fluff vs guns are cool
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>>149418196
Excalibur>Your magic gun.
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>>149418239
Is that the one where they are tumbling through the seventh labyrinth of Caubac Alcatraz? ie one of the DAA's
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>>149418287

How is she pure/unsexual when she fucked a man and birthed a child?
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>>149418392
Yeah
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>>149395225
also Shiki / Tsukihime crossover never
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>>149418173
There's this guy on BL who seems to be working on one. The only page he translated seemed to have mistakes in it but he's good at editing, I'm not sure how far along he is now if he's even continued.

The connection the manga creates comes from the fact that Chaldea has a replica of Atlas' TRI-HERMES computer(the one that calculates the future). Then in one parallel world where Sialim is the head of Atlas(the Extra worldline) she manages to drag Sion's(From MB worldline) into simulations that predict the future, to try and find solutions to the problem. In one of these simulations/(worldline travelling) she ends up in Chaldea right before the event of FGO.

It actually connects the worlds of MB(by extension Tsukihime), Extra(through Sialim and Rani) and FGO. All of this is done though projecting yourself in other "dimensions/worlds" thing though. One of the last thing that happens in the manga is Sialim telling Rani she'll be going to the moon because as we know they won't manage to prevent the destruction fo the world and so they decide they'll find a way to deal with the aftermath.
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>>149418380
While you have to close the distance the magic gun would have already obliterated you from kms away in a billionth of a second.
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>>149418394
I think he meant un-promiscous by unsexual not that they're anti-sex.
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>>149418394
She fucked her husband and had a child, it's love, not sex.

Who the fuck cares about this shit ? Shiki is the best anyway
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>>149418394
Shiki can kill her past sexual experiences restoring her virginity every time, discuss.
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>>149418579
What show is this?
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>>149418663
I don't think Shiki can, but Void should be able to do it.

>>149418674
What are you talking about ?
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>>149418674
Why are you here?
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>>149418501
>Excalibur
>close the distance
heh
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>>149418748
I honestly wonder why this thread isn't posted in /v/ when this is the anime board. Misleading title.
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>>149418783
Nasu had to turn Excalibur into a beamspam weapon because the sword of the myth would be boring and unimpressive.
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>>149418831
What's your point. People are either talking about the KnK anime or the recent MB manga.
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>>149418886
>boring and unimpressive.

He also had to nerf it because if he stick to the legend then Saber has to win every fight because of Excalibur.
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>>149417757
Do you have any idea how loud a gunshot is?
The problem wouldn't really be that she's doing illegal shit the problem would be drawing attention to herself.
Also while not an assurance they wouldn't intervene, Shiki is estranged from her family through most of the series.
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>>149419134
Magic makes the gun silent.
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>>149418831
>stop talking about anime on the anime board
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>>149419163
Shiki doesn't know any magecraft and neither does her family. The stuff they do in relation with demon hunting seems to be purely cultivating innate abilities.
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>>149418831
You can stay in /v/. Kara no Kyoukai is /jp/ at most, but never /v/
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>>149419205
I've always kinda liked that most of the fights in KnK felt more like super powered fights than magus fights.
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>>149419134
Ever heard of a silencer?
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>>149419560
Ever heard a silencer in use?
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>>149419573
Ever heard a silencer in a work of fiction? Nothing about this shit is realistic, so who cares if it's not exactly true to life?
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>>149418062
She will be a huge chuuni
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>>149419573
>not using silenced shotgun

?

You don't need to cut lines when you can just cover the whole area.
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>>149418490
Melty blood, dude.
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>>149417801
The physics family inheritence are inferior to magus's magic crests, which is why Touko consider them luddites. Shiki didn't manifest it either, they awoke her Origin, spawning Void Shiki, which spawned 2 perfect dual personality in her place to keep them happy.
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>>149392462
Inb4 nasuverse where everything magic-ish can protect itself from bullets
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Did you get a portrait of Shiki yet?
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>>149402313
>>149402269
Is that Taro's manga? Looks fucking stupid but I don't mind.

Making a fiction about supersonic katana fighters is such a cliche thing. In reality he'd drop dead without being able to reach anyone if they open fire.
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>>149420715
I'm sure Kayneth would have liked it if that were the case.
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>>149419851
I have to admit that actually makes sense in a stupid kind of way.
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>>149397069
>bow fights
Yes
>gun fights
Mostly just "take cover and shoot" with some parcour elements added to it.
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I like KnK even more now because it's completely disconnected from Fate despite desperate Nasu's attempts to make Fate universe the primary one and include everything into it. FGO is not canon.
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>>149419851
KnK is pretty much a work of magical realism, not 100% to the proper definition but outside magical shit it plays by real world rules.
Although is you really want to argue its worth within a work of fiction then a silencer would completely ruin what makes a gunfight enjoyable to watch.
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>>149420823
he did actually protect himself from normal bullets
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>>149417801
Her grandfather had it, but iirc it was mentioned in the novels that he had it in the bad way and was very unstable because of it.
>>149420647
It's actually an idea I've been thinking about, is Shiki's connection to the void intentional from the family?

Multiple personalities as a family power is rather weak compared to the powers of Asagami or Nanaya, but it does create a perfect mental yin/yang like with Shiki, a human symbol/incarnation of the very concept with a chance of manifest a connection to the root itself. We know how people like to play the long game for reaching the root.
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>>149420960
They're not magi though. I don't think they care about the root.
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>>149420960
Well, the mixed blood demon hunter works differently from the psychic in KnK, the latter focuses on breeding optimal successors, while the former just happen to have oni blood added in at some point. Plus, all the psychics care about is maintaining their special snowflake trait in the family, they're not magi, they don't give a shit about the root, or at least we can assume so.
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>Type-Moon will never make anything like KnK ever again because they are like Japanese Disney now

Shame
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>>149416644
Guns are beautiful, shut your filthy mouth.
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>>149422154
Swords beauty is superior
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>>149422650
Shirou pls
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>>149392462
She can kill guns with a knife probably even submachineguns
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>>149419573
Nope. That's the whole point of a silencer.
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>>149423041
>a gun shot with a silencer makes no sound
hahahah AHAHA AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>MEODP
>gun
SECONDARY SHITTERS
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https://webmshare.com/zMRej
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>>149423586
Clean work
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>>149422851
Nah any hack with a pistol or even submachine gun would kill her and end her chuuni shit.
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>>149424202
You are talking about a girl who survived an explosion of a truck just besides her and "killed" a possible future where she was killed by another bomb.
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>>149424362
>You are talking about a girl who survived an explosion of a truck just besides her and "killed" a possible future where she was killed by another bomb.
She never actually encountered a single gun fight.

All her fights involve some harmless zombies, ghosts or retarded mages who can only fist fight her.

She's just casually die from a single bullet of some crazy junkie who wasn't happy about Ryougi's Yakuza beating the shit out of his gang.
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>>149395387
Shinji raped her right?
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>>149425489
Rider did, Shinji prolly went for the sloppy seconds
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>>149425564
Rider is not a rapist!
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>>149392462

guns require ammo and she's skilled enough with just one knife
/thread
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>>149425489
>>149425564

what?
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>>149392462
Nasu isn't a very good writer.
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>>149418501
I can think of a shitton of legendary NP-worthy bows but like, ten or twenty NP-worthy guns. David's Sling would be superior in every way to a gun.
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>>149425667
>guns require ammo
Yes, and?
>she's skilled enough with just one knife
So she's pretty bad at fighting in modern world, I see.
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>>149420823
The only reason bonegun worked against him is because it was a magic bullet.
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>>149394594
She made me smoke cigarettes
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>>149421890
How is this even a fight honestly, Archetype doesn't have a concept of death and can just nuke her over and over while flying.
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>>149418886
>Nasu had to turn Excalibur into a beamspam weapon because the sword of the myth would be boring and unimpressive.

Female Arthur is boring and unimpressive.
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>>149425824
Yet even Shirou managed to defeat Girugamesh and you are talking about possible Void fighting AE.
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>>149395997
There's more knives stored in there, obviously.
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>>149425777
>Choochoo Train is pretty bad at fighting in the modern world I mean who uses pointy sticks any more xD
Putting aside Ryougi's autism,

>>149425960
Shirou defeated Gilgamesh because UBW is both GoB's hard counter and Gilgamesh refuses to actually use his treasury the way he's supposed to by pulling out the treasures and using their abilities individually, which he can do as evidenced by him using the scythe to hit Saber.
Also doesn't Void fighting Archetype basically entail all of humanity fighting the earth itself?
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>>149425960
>Void fighting AE.
And how does this change the fact that Ryougi gets stomped?
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>>149425838
This shit's cringy as fuck, that image is so unlinke her personality. Why can't all Arturiafags just admit that they fell in love with her design and not ther character in the slightest?
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>>149426282
Nero is shit and not canon though.
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>>149426282
Well, yeah.
That's why everyone loves Nero
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>>149426332
He says as he posts the worst Saber.
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>>149426351
>>149426367
I love Nero for both her design and slutty personality though. I don't think she's a good character. Rin is a superior girl overall, but Nero is by far the best Saber.
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>>149426367
Pretty much all of the saberclones are better than the original saber
Nero is like Gilgamesh who channels his arrogance into being all-accepting because he's just that big hearted or whatever
Mordred has massive """"daddy""""' issues and is probably counted as a tranny but she's still better
NOBBU is a meme and edgier and more obnoxious, but she's still better
Okita's entire gimmick is *coughs at you* but she's still better.
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>>149426367
>>149426499
>>149426545
Alter is the best so you can fuck off already with your irrelevant shit taste.
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>>149425960
Why is Gilgamesh's characterization all over the place?
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Why does it matter who's the better Saber? If you're going to highjack this thread in favor of Fate at least don't shitpost or fuck off to /vg/.
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>>149426979
JAlter, you mean?

>>149427005
It really isn't, Shirou's existence triggers him.
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>>149427061
All the Alter are great
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>>149427061
>It really isn't, Shirou's existence triggers him.

Gilgamesh fluctuates so much he might have multiple personality disorder in FSN.
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>>149427139
That's pretty bad fanart.
Aren't the Alters basically just knockoff Angra because they're just their own grudges instead of the grudges of everyone
If one summoned Angra Mainyu, the actual one instead of the placeholder, in the Moon Cell, would he work well against the Buddha or would the Buddha transmigrate him because 'lmao just let go man'?

>>149427189
How so, it seems pretty consistent to me within routes
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What killed your interest in this series?
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>>149427275
Fuck off.
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>>149426979
Better than vanilla but not better than Nero. And her cowtit version is fucking disgusting.
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>>149427275
You already know the answer, anon.
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>>149427275
I've lost interest in anything F/GO-related and most spin-offs. But still hype as fuck for HF movies, Extra anime, and translations for F/SF and el-Melloi Case Files if they turn out to be good.
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>>149427375
>Tituria
>Disgusting

Fuck off pedo
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>>149427402
Worse than CCC?

Garbage character designs. Characters that ruin themselves by acting more like generic anniemays at the expense of depth, discarding the strengths of the visual novel medium. Comedy and fanservice and frivolity at the expense of the plot, often at the worst times. Some of the dumbest metaphors I've ever seen. Secret Gardens are idiotic. I can't possibly be assed to care about BB. Kiara is the most plainly unlikable Nasuverse antagonist, which is arguably a step-up from Pieceman being the flattest, but she's so dumb I wish I could forget she existed.
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>Saberfags ruined the thread
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>>149427456
Fuck off normalfag.
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>>149427275
>Nasu permitting anything that fails to follow the thematic and setting conventions established by Rakkyou, Tsukihime, F/SN, and DDD
>possibly believing Hiroyama remotely managed to capture those conventions at any point
>insipid fanservice garbage at worst which utterly destroys Illya's character
>the most inconsistent braindead shounen idiocy at best
>not full autism rage at the state of the setting and Nasu's increasing incompetence, given the existence of F/GO
>EX rank fucking everywhere on everyone
>all of these pathetic attempts at humor in the years following Mahoyo's fumbling publication
>CCC being a poor man's Utena and a mediocre way to expand the setting
>Meltan gradually destroying Kohaku's character by turning her into a meme
>now all the fucking memes are the most prominent thematic and setting conventions within Type-Moon works because they've been used more than the original ones Nasu wrote of during TM's first 7 or so years from 1998 to 2005
>Nasu doesn't even care because he's too busy playing BB and DaS
>Tsukihime remake never, which is probably not a bad thing
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>>149427454
Do you even know the story of GO?
>>149427476
It's pretty sad.
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>>149427473
>implying over 2% of the western fanbase has read CCC or knows anything but the barebones of its story.
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>>149427275
F/GO.
>>149427473
>EOP
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>>149427558
>read a psp game
>implying over 2% of the western fanbase has played Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, FSN, FHA and Mahoyo or knows anything but the barebones of its story.
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>>149427514
I followed it up to the London part I believe, but it's just a huge turn-off to have to read translations on a pastebin months after skipping the corresponding cutscene in the actual VN format. Not to mention all the dumb, 4th wall breaking waifu shit that they mix in with the same setting through "events".
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>>149427618
Not an EOP. CCC was mediocre.
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>>149427504
>CCC being a poor man's Utena and a mediocre way to expand the setting
>Tsukihime remake never, which is probably not a bad thing
Why EOP shitters shit talk about CCC and waiting for Tsuki remake? No one will translate tsuki for you. And I prerry sure you didn't read DDD too
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>>149427629
Absolutely, yes. But even among the biggest western TM fans, only a tiny portion has played CCC due to the language barrier.
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>>149427665
Explain your answer.
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I want a scale of this
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>>149427796
I'd prefer this one
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>>149427734
Where do you get your information from?

Also,

>caring about EOPs and their pitiful fan translations that don't convey the magic of TM's writing
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>>149427275
illya spin-off
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>>149427402
GO is fine but man, do I hate the wanking Rhongomyniad gets
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>>149427860
>Where do you get your information from?
He's right. You can post screencap of any DDD, F/SF page here and no one will able to translate it. Same on Beast Lair
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>>149427375
I don't like vocal titty Saber such as Nero.

Saber Alter is a pretty fun personality switch and it echoes with the original Saber well.

Nero is just a sameface-for-no-reason Saber clone that has big boobs and act like a whore.
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>>149427473
Kiara is pretty funny.
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If Ryougi and Arc made love who would be on top?
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>>149428005
>act like a whore.
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>>149428018
>my feet hurt
>I lost his key
>my katana needs cleaning
>I could be sucking off Kokutou right now
>he's not taking the hint
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>>149427504
>Meltan gradually destroying Kohaku's character by turning her into a meme

at least she has the excuse of "real" kohaku being way too dark and fucked up of a character to really do anything with in the more light hearted crossover stuff that she's been in post tsukihime

when was the last time ciel or akiha were real characters and not MUH CURRY/NI-SAN?
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>>149427473
Fate/Extra was actually a huge step into a pile of shit and dropped the quality of Type-Moon designs by a large margin.
It started the degradation of well designed simplistic outfits Takeuchi used for KnK, early Fate and Tsukihime.
And now it's some awful fantasy MMO tier garbage with shitty artist like RCO Wada ruining Type-Moon characters all over the place.

At some point I just stopped giving a shit about Type-Moon and their Fate/Shit shenanigans.
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>>149428018
Cuckotou
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What was it about Tsukihime that made it popular at the time?
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Why is Fujinon so cute?

She needs her own spin off.
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>>149428152
Did Extra add anything of value to the series?
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>>149428152
>Wada
>ruining Type-Moon characters all over the place.
Try harder.
>well designed simplistic outfits Takeuchi used for KnK, early Fate and Tsukihime.
Takeuchi's old "design" is amateur deviant tier shit.
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>>149428228
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>>149428228
Sad moe.
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>wake up
>check thread
>it has become /fate/ general
Not again.
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>>149427732
>H-he's just an EOP!
I already explained why CCC is shit here >>149427473

Fuck you
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>>149428187
>popular at the time?
Isn't it still ridiculously popular considering that the only "real" piece of media exposure it has was the 15 year old VN and yet it still gets brought up?

I get the feeling you aren't being serious with this question, but I would say the biggest point in it's favor is how every route ties into the other ones in a meta way. There's lots of little moments in one route that are interesting twists on events from a previous route, and having things that just seem like random innocuous things come back with some crazy expliation in another route is real effective writing for a VN in this style.

Also it, for a lack of a better word, is real good at letting you self insert into shikis situation, with the reveals and fucked up shit being shocking to the reader as well as to him.
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>>149428244
Delete this.
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>>149428332
It's still an achievement that we got over 200 posts before it happened.
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Kokutou is really handsome in the prologue.
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>>149428332
That is the fate of all Tsukihime, KnK and Mahoyo threads
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>>149428429
Kokutou looks rather decent period.
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>>149428086
>If Ryougi and Arc made love who would be on top?
Shiki is submissive in bed.
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>>149428361
Your explanation is shit but, translate this
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>>149428537
But she's trying to have a male personality so you'd think she'd try to be assertive.
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>>149428537
This is really hot.
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>>149428563
She gets over it by the end of the series.
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>>149428332
What do you want to discuss about Tsuki and KnK?
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>>149428589
How cute Shiki is.
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>>149428611
>>149428537
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>>149420726
Where?
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>>149428611
awwww
10/10 thread
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>>149428611
Which Shiki are we talking about here?
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Roa: .... So this is the best she could muster after being broken by the Eyes of Death Perception. That was on a scale where even I could defeat her. Now then,

Crimson Moon: A truly death-defying show of acrobatics, clown. I will reward thy resolve.

Roa: ...I knew it. It's not even going to be a fight once the main body gets out. Just how many seconds will I last with all my circuits put out on defense?

Crimson Moon: Out of amusement, I allow thee one blow (kiss). Shout out the last of thy life as if to offer me thy blood, thy soul.

Roa: Ha...that's it! That's what I wanted! Eight hundred years ago I HAD seen eternity.

Roa: The princess of the moon, not fading away even a bit since that moment! I present to you to the spectacle of the burning end of my 18th death, my final reincarnation!
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>>149427860
>magic of TM's writing
Oh please.

You can troll your 14 years old school friends with that crap.
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>>149428430
Tsukihime and KnK are already done with, and Mahoyo will never be translated, so it just falls back to fate threads.

Wasn't Commie translating Mahoyo? What happened with that?
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>>149428537
what ep is this?
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>>149428646
I want to wake up to this face every morning.
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>>149428611
OK
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>>149428862
6
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>>149428826
They lied.
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>>149428821
>retarded EOP
oh
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>>149428241
Nice shit taste, faggot.

RCO Wada is awful shit tier artist and so is your taste.

Get lost to your /fgo/ cancer containment general.
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>>149428915
thx
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>>149392462
*teleports behind you*
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>>149425824
Back in the old days, actually, until 2012, the dominant fanon was that MEoDP got nothing over Servants. The rationale was that they were phenomena beyond life and death, and MEoDP would not be able to comprehend them, very much like the Buddhism relic that Araya had.

Now Nasu reduces Servants to pretty much Spirit/Wraith level, so they are very much manageable through MEoDP.
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>>149392462
Because it's more fun.
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So I plan on translating this

https://exhentai.org/g/486317/166f5b2424/

eventually, but are there other good KnK doujins that require TL? Might as well be aware of what's out there.

>>149428887
>this artist stopped drawing MikiShiki
>all they draw is Olga Marie now
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>>149428992
But Archetype Earth is explicitly said to simply not have a concept of death when Ryougi confronts her.
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>>149428887
It's a shame that this artist stopped making Shiki art.
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>>149428957
Why do you hate Wada?
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>>149428947
>this one random guy said his writing wasn't absolute trash, so it totally proves my point, even though I don't even know japanese

I want EOPs to get out.
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>>149428915
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>>149428429
>Kokutou is really handsome in the prologue.
He's like the only male protag in Type-Moon who's not involved in chuuni shit and other shounen mamoru shit.
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>>149428646
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>>149429082
t. EOP
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>>149428957
Did you finished reading Tsuki yesterday? Your buzzwords don't make Wada "shit artist" no matter how hard you want it. Especially from technical view.
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>>149428947
>>149429124
>t.

Leave to /fgo/ cancer containment general and never come back.
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>>149429031
>>149429048
Man, fuck Grand Order.
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>>149429124
>t.

Spotted the guy who "learned" about japanese culture on /int/.
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>>149429179
But t. is finnish.
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>>149428992
Not only that but, and I know how much you people would rather not hear about FGO, the MEoDP is much stronger than some people think.

This is from Shiki's profile "An attack that opens the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to the maximum and severs the target's 「lines of death」.
Regardless of possessing a life-span of some millions, recovery powers that resuscitate you from a interrupted state or a stock of lives of some hundreds, because it exposes 「the concept of death in regards to that specimen」, it gives a fatal wound while disregarding such qualities of immortality.

There might be lives that die-hard, but no life can escape death.
──────the end is common to all things.".

So that doujin with Berserker and the other Shiki might as well be how it would have happened.
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Get the fuck out EOPs. Everyone on /jp/ knows that CCC is a masterpiece
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Are we being raided?

>>149429232
I think the main objection to the Berserker thing is how the fuck Shiki even managed to touch Heracles.
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>>149428558
>no one able to translate this
Sasuga
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>>149429277
You better pay if you want to commission a translation, anon.
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>>149429099
Well he does try to mamoru Shiki though.
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>>149429160
Your words are not making shit tier artist Wada any better. And I've been saying this since the release of F/E.

>Especially from technical view.

Wada is absolutely fucking awful at that. If you fail to see it on your own image then you probably have brain damage and never developed your taste with Takeuchi's art style who's above that pathetic Deviant Art tier Wada even with his early Tsukihime art.

Don't even try to attack that ugly awful shit of Wada to the original Type-Moon and stay away with your non-canon Extra/SHIT.

And don't reply to my posts with your disgusting wadashit I don't want to see those feces in KnK thread.
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>>149429330
I know translation
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>>149429031
Maybe the manga or the garden of oblivion?
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>>149429267
She doesn't need to touch to cut the lines.
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>>149429376
The doujin had Tohno cutting Heracles apart with his knife, which doesn't make any sense because how did he even hit him to begin with
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Can Shiki kill Magical Girls?
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>>149429375
Garden of oblivion is translated on Beast's lair.

I was just about to ask too before finding it

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5115-WIP-Kara-no-Kyoukai-Shuumatsu-Rokuon-%28Updated-2015-07-20%29?p=1599603&viewfull=1#post1599603
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>>149429374
I think you should be working on your english then.
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>>149429367
>he says posting Tsukihime and a picture of Akiha with a man's torso
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>>149429440
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>>149429440
Probably
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>>149429367
Can you redline Wada's picture, retarded shitposter? Explain why her composition and colors are bad for example
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>>149429277
>>149429374
Not the guy you replied to but what is this from? Lack of context makes it harder since Japanese sentences often don't have pronouns.

>... room's key too, should we open that room?"
>"Nah, no need to go that far ...still, it's surprising that our detailed folks overlooked it. It's like, how should I put this? Is there a trick to becoming a favorite, or having them overlook [your actions]?"
etc.

>>149429375
By Sphere? That's a tall order, especially the philosophical bits. Maybe when I finish a couple more of my regular projects.
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>>149429482
Not him but Wada's style really jarring when compared to the styles of just about everyone else, even in FGO.
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>>149429634
As long as it's something related to KnK or Tsukihime, people will appreciate it.
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>>149429418
He got carried away and let shiki *teleport behind* him
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>>149429449
Ei Aoki: Chapter 1 was released in 2007, right? I think we started the actual work in 2006 or so? The first one we started production on was Chapter 2, right?

Tomonori Sudo: We started with Chapter 2, and then it was Chapter 1... They were released six years ago? Well, no wonder I've gotten old.

Ei Aoki: We never thought we'd still be doing "the Garden of sinners" six years later, did we? Back when we were doing Chapter 1, ufotable still wasn't even considered an up-and-comer. Although needless to say, TYPE-MOON was popular.

Tomonori Sudo: You're right. I guess it's pretty clear that people started seeing our company differently around the time "the Garden of sinners" came out. Until then, I don't think we had any real hits, at least not anything major. That said, it's not as if internally, ufotable is any different before and after "the Garden of sinners". I always think, "It's still the same old, same old". (Laughs) Mr. Kondo used to say, "I want this place to be like Jump," Well, I guess that shows that he was already thinking of the company's future back then. And the people who directed each chapter of "the Garden of sinners" are still directing today.

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/2476-Kara-no-Kyoukai-Mirai-Fukuin-movie-film?p=2223826&viewfull=1#post2223826
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>>149429482
>Can you redline Wada's picture, retarded shitposter? Explain why her composition and colors are bad for example
If you can't see how awfully retarded her faces are looking with those eyes that are completely out of proportion then I just can't help you, you need to go visit a doctor and check your mental disability.
Wada's art style is completely disconnected from Type-Moon's with Takeuchi and Koyama.
And is much worse.
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>>149429844
>he got carried away
Heracles (canonically?) has EAM according to the UBW anime, which actually makes a load of sense so I'm not sure that makes any sense.
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>>149429844
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>>149429440
>Can Shiki kill Magical Girls?
At least they are not dragging Mana into that Magical loli-brothel
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>>149429974
I was just memeing, but "tohno can't handle using his eyes" is horseshit

If he can slice arcueids body to unfixable bits, destroy the walking reality marble that is chaos and even remove the concept of poison in kohaku during a route where he uses his eyes maybe three times in his entire life beforehand, he could kill a servant if he gets the chance.
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A shame they didn't make an anime adaptation of AATM. It's so much better than Carnival Phantasm with its low tier jokes. Picked up stupid gag comedy over comfy actually good humor in AATM.
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>>149430104
>>149429974
I still hold that the biggest problem with killing Heracles is actually hitting him, it's like hitting Cu Chuulain.
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>>149430112
Maybe they are saving it for the 20th anniversary
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>>149430181
If he can keep up with Arc and Ciel, he can keep up with those two.

After all, humans can kill Servants.
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Love those series.
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>>149430269
Man Ciel is hardly "one of the strongest melee servants period" tier.
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>>149429634
It's from DDD. Begining of S.vs.S when Arika, Kirisu and Tsuranui made their way to the stadium
>>149429905
Where is your redlines? This is not even /ic/ tier critique, retarded shitposter.
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>>149429418
>>149430181
tohno can easily kill jobzerker, consider the following:

- jobzerker's only role in the story is to be a bigbad thing that 's really physically strong and scary to show that the good guys have really strong moves and let them win, exactly like nrvnsqur

- in type moon stories the apparent underdog always wins unless it would be way more tragic/story appropriate for them to lose, but since again jobzerker is a non character that just exists to get knocked over that would never apply

- due to mad enhancement jobzerker has no real personality of it's own and only attacks when commanded, so the argument of "why would a servant let shiki get close" doesn't apply
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>>149430346
>that awful chin
>those awful eyes
>those hands

I almost puked.
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>>149430370
The first two are plot reasons which really shouldn't come into play while the last one doesn't really work in context of the UBW anime giving him Eternal Arms Mastery and the route itself making him go full protect the puppy on Illya
Also, should we consider it canonical that Heracles basically passed a 13th trial in UBW and got an extra life, or should we chalk that up to anime fiat?
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>>149430346
Amazing Chest ahead
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>>149430334
Hercules is treated like a joke by the story so your

>"one of the strongest melee servants period" tier.

literally doesn't matter.

>Killed by bullshit
>Gilgamesh
>Killed by bullshit 2.0
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>>149430495
>by the story
But he's supposed to be ludicrously strong, I mean Cu is treated like a joke too.
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>>149430391
That's all? I expected too much from EOP shitposter.
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>>149430631
You CCCfags are getting out of hand with this EOP meme. Plenty of us know Japanese and thought it sucked.
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>>149430334
ciel is really strong, people just forget because it doesn't really come up in tsukihime and she's become a gag character like everyone else
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>>149430727
No I know she's really strong, she's supposed to be able to shitstomp peak Kirei too no? That doesn't really mean she should be able to compete with people servants she doesn't hardcounter and aren't being retarded.
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>>149430727
If I remember correctly she's said to be the bottom level of the Burial Agency. So she's the bottom tier of the high tier.
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>>149430711
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>>149430828
in anime the bottom tier of the high tier can obliterate everyone in the middle tier combined.
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>>149430872
Mahoyo is ok, still shit compare to Tsukihime and FSN though
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>>149430727
>>149430808
>>149430828
ciel is kind of the batman of type moon when it comes to powerlevel arguments because she aparantly has crazy high magic circuits, 100's of years of magical knowledge from roa and access to all kinds of cool shit from the burial agency, but she doesn't really use any of it
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>>149430997
Sasuga Miura, truly a worthy follow-up to one of the best anime movies of all time
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>>149430808
>>149430828
Ciel has plenty freaky weapons under there. The knowledge of sorcery that she inherited from Roa is equivalent to that possessed by a magus of the rank of Grand – the highest rank in the Association.

>Ciel is overwhelmingly strong, due to her circuits, constitution and immortality. The strength of Kotomine at the time of Zero was due to his abnormally large number of Command Spells and his tenacity towards Kiritsugu. It was truly the brightest moment of his life. The Kotomine at that time could even win against Ciel.

tl;dr - powerlevels are bullshit
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On Nasuverse knives > guns.
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>>149431204
Kiritsugu beat Kirei though
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>>149431344
Clearly scabbards > fists.
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>>149431344
>Kiritsugu beat Kirei
>Kirei is alive and lost basically nothing
>Kiritsugu lost his waifu, lost his daughter, lost his dream, and burned a bunch of the city
>Kiritsugu died from cursemud, Kirei got resurrected from it
EH
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>>149431500
Didn't it resurrect Gil then it went to Kirei because they had a contract?
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>>149431541
It tried to eat Gilgamesh then gave up because apparently his ego is stronger than the rest of human history combined, and spitting him out made him a normal dude again while Kirei got revived due to the contract moving backwards.
It's some fucked up shit.
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>>149431344
>>149431500
But that's no true. If not mud from ceiling they will kill each other.
>Kiri shots Kirei
>Kirei's hand moving by momentum will blow out Kiri's head and upper body
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>>149431744
You forgot the knives.
Also, if Kiritsugu dies then Saber fizzles out pretty fast while Gilgamesh stays alive.
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>>149431500
Non-canon.
The canon timeline is the Prisma one, where Kirei is living with his wife, daughter and travelling the world.
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>>149429974
Arc isn't really an expert on MEoDP
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>>149432234
>where Kirei is
???
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>>149432234
They all are canon.
Welcome to the miracle of the kaleidoscope where "canon" is a meaningless concept.
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>>149430997
>no sub
why bother?
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Who had the best route?
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Didn't get this fig because of the price (exclusive+proxy required) and her #3 number Shiki in my collection. Still looks pretty good.
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>>149433546
can you see her pantiiiiiii?
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>>149433673
White
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2 Shiki is enough, don't want to multiply them like Sabers.
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>>149433755
instant order
shame no cameltoe tho
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>>149433755
Ordered
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>>149433827
>>149433854
Perverts.
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>>149433943
10/10 hot
Don't worry, I'll never strip her.
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>>149410206
well the movies 1-4 and 6 are fucking terrible, but 5 and 7 on the other hand are pretty good

so if you want to watch something that's 5/7 shit then go ahead
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>>149434661
>well the movies 1-4
>terrible

They are not.
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>>149433994
you can?
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>>149434877
I won't look at her panties either.
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>>149434661
>6 are fucking terrible
It's really not though.

And you are just straight wrong about 1-4.

7 is probably the weakest though. It has weird forced drama.
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>>149434910
no, realy! can you undress these figures?
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>>149435094
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>>149433943
Damn, I love Shikibutt!
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>>149433139
There's not even a competition.

This is now a best girl thread
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>>149435771
>This is now a best girl thread
It was since the first post anon
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>>149435990
It's a damn shame that Shiki will never have as much art as she deserves.
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Do you like your Shiki with nose or without nose?
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>>149392462
It's illegal for civilians to own guns in Japan.
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>>149437701
She's perfect in whatever form.
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Reminder 5 = 6 > 3 > 1 = 2 > 4 > 7
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>>149437993
switch 3 and 7
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Please tell me to get off my ass and watch KnK.

Does it get better after the first movie? I remember it being pretty slow.
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>>149437850
it's also illegal to murder people
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>>149437993
>6 not at the bottom
You're simply wrong
or talking about the novels
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>>149438234
Each movie is a chapter. So it's normal for the start to be slow. Like you'd expect from the beginning of a book.
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>>149437993
>6 on top

Are you an Azakafag ?
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>>149438262
>>149438339
6 is not that bad fuck off with that meme.
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>>149392722
>gun fights are just boring to watch compared to melee fights
>mfw on the left

Shame that this scene never got adapted. It's one of the best in the entire story.
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>>149438339
I'm not him and not an Azakafag but I feel pretty bad for her

>>149438557
>that
>a gunfight
Also the thing that makes a gunfight boring is the fact that getting hit, just about anywhere, ends you, that the power of the gun itself is fixed and your job is to hit, and that it's a projectile weapon.
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Hey guys, remember me?
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>>149438456
It was by far the worst of the movies.
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>>149438675
Delicious brown Shiki
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>>149438677
that's not three
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>>149438677
That's not 7.
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>>149438675
is this actually any good?
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>>149438712
3 is the second best
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>>149438771
Not really, I wouldn't call it terrible but it's not anything special.
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>>149438771
Do not expect anything superb.

It's just okay.
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>>149438771
It's like a poor man's DtB.
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>>149438456
It is the worst movie. If you talk about the novel then it's different.

>>149438557
One of the worst role of Sawashiro. 1st op was great.
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>>149392462
You can shoot someone in the head and they might survive. You can't survive getting your skull carved up. If you have superhuman powers, bladed weapons are just superior. Maybe in the modern world, projectile weapons are less risky for their bearer, but once you start upping your won stats, guns are just a useless hassle and a waste.
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>>149438987
>once you start upping your own stats
I fucking hate my dyslexia.
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>>149439042
You should hate your autism more.
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>>149438675
>shiki's va is used on the villain instead of canaan
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>>149438987
I guess what I mean is, a gun has a set strength, while blades strength is dependent on their user. A bullet cannot travel faster because it's user can. But blades are different, they basically work like an extension of their bearers power. If their bearer can move fast, they move fast. If their bearer can do crazy shit, so can they. A bullet will always just be a bullet, and can do no more and no less than what it was designed to do. It is an inorganic weapon and cannot adapt to different fields of battle. Thus, blades are superior. Now, something like Railgun, in which the bullet is directly fired by it's users body, is superior to pretty much anything else. A projectile weapon whose power is directly connected to it's bearer is the ultimate weapon.
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>>149439138
Sorry I don't worship glorious guns, amerilard. They're overrated and can never amount to anything more than their simple use and power.
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>>149428018
Why are Suzumura and Sakamoto at a party instead of on Tokyo Encounter with Sugita and Nakamura?
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>>149392462
Did you even watch the movies/read the books/read interviews with Nasu/read the Wiki?

Also you can't touch the lines of death with bullets you fukcing moron I swear to god I will fucking murdre you you dumb piece of shit how can anynoe even bee this retarded seriously
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>>149428611
Why are you here instead of fucking your wife, you french poet?
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>>149438620
All of the things you mentioned have more to do with Hollywood than reality.

>the fact that getting hit, just about anywhere, ends you

Unless you score a hit on the opponent's brain or spine, this is absolutely untrue of the majority of small arms. There are many infamous and well-documented incidents of determined attackers being able to fight on despite being shot 6+ times. See: the 1986 Miami FBI shootout or this story (http://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/)

>that the power of the gun itself is fixed and your job is to hit

The power and ballistic performance of a gun is not "fixed." A cartridge like 9mm runs the gamut from light target loads to +P self-defense ammunition that generates much more recoil and muzzle flash in exchange for significantly greater power.

Furthermore, just because something is simple doesn't mean it's easy. There is a very big and observable difference in skills between the way a special forces operator or a guy like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM) shoots compared to an average person. The level of proficiency they have takes as long to acquire as a similar degree of mastery with a sword, spear, quarterstaff, etc.

>and that it's a projectile weapon.

Squad-level actions with guns have a lot more potential to be interesting than squad-level actions with melee weapons precisely because guns have a lot more tactical flexibility.
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>>149428241
He's not wrong. Though I'd say it began with loli Jack the Ripper. Ironically, they started pandering far harder than they were back when they needed porn to sell.

As for Takeuchi's old designs. He clearly captured lightning in a bottle with Saber and has been trying to do so since, by simply cloning Saber and pasting new names onto it. Even Arcueid has Saber face now. Now that does sound like something from Deviant Art and a "Do Not Steal" kind of way (originally was excited to see Extra Caster, because I thought it was Magical Amber). His old designs were easy to take seriously in their simplicity, and aside from Saber, Rin has also received a great deal of praise for her character design. I'm partial to Sion and Night of Wallachia, myself, both old Takeuchi character designs.
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>>149439511
>small arms
Why were we using small arms? Getting shot by a non-shit caliber weapon will put the limb that got hit effectively out of commission.

>not fixed
No. It is fixed. I could fire that gun, or give that gun to the best shot in the world, and if I shoot a piece of wood it does the exact same damage, if I shoot someone it has the same effect.

>The level of proficiency they have takes as long to acquire as a similar degree of mastery with a sword, spear, quarterstaff, etc.
A gun does not grow stronger or more effective and cannot be used in multiple-move exchanges. Getting hit is deadly, you can't fucking block unless you shoot bullets out of midair, etc.

>Squad-level actions with guns have a lot more potential to be interesting than squad-level actions with melee weapons precisely because guns have a lot more tactical flexibility.
...and you're in the wrong genre, where the difference in powerlevel between high and low is the difference between heaven and earth and people with knives are often more effective than those with guns, see Kirei deflecting an entire magazine almost casually.
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>>149439511
>The power and ballistic performance of a gun is not "fixed." A cartridge like 9mm runs the gamut from light target loads to +P self-defense ammunition that generates much more recoil and muzzle flash in exchange for significantly greater power.
You just buy those and load those into a gun mate.
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>>149396344

>not providing link
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>>149439363
Listen up you little shit, Kiritsugu was easily the best Master who could finish the war without even using his crybaby servant and he relied on guns, explosives and modern art of war.

His retarded as fuck opponents are exactly a bunch of cucks who would use katanas, magic and other stale shit that is disconnected from the reality and is straight up fucking useless against a professional Hitman.

Now shut you whore mouth and stop mumbling about your fucking wiki you underage shitface, this site is 18+ and the next time you gonna post that fucking shitty wiki here I'll track you down and make you deepthroat my silenced shotgun because I don't want to wake up your mother who's obviously tired living with a 2 digits IQ retarded son.

Now get the fuck out of /a/ to your facebook anime-group and never come back.
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>>149438620
>Also the thing that makes a gunfight boring is the fact that getting hit, just about anywhere, ends you

That's what Nasu thought back when he went out of his way to confirm that modern people can't become heroic spirits (eliminating actually interesting people like The Red Baron and The White Death). Then Urobuchi, a gunphile, demonstrated that this is bullshit with Kiritsugu.
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>>149440945
>uses cuck
>tells people to leave /a/
Nah, you fuck off crossboarder,
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>>149440965
>actually interesting people
Are you implying that the only people who are interesting are people after the 1800s or are you just saying that these people are actually interesting heroes that Nasu kicked out
The latter would be something I agree with, the former means you're retarded.

>>149440945
You're literally retarded, didn't actually bother to check up on canon, and are a crossboarding fuck who probably would unironically post the marines pasta.
Kill yourself.
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>>149441079
I'm posting on /a/ for over 10 years at this point and yeah I can tell some newfriend who's using wiki as an argument to fuck off.
Enabling secondaries who read about series on shitty wikis without actually watching / playing / reading is the last thing you should do on /a/.

>>149441401
You are so visibly upset, that you need to create shitpost on our glorious board in an attempt to raise your self worth.
Now get lost with your fucking pathetic wiki you must be 18+ to post on 4chan. No one cares about your poor attempts to insult anyone here and it surely not helping you to fit in.
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>>149441620
So you think Shiki should use a gun?
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>>149441401
The latter.
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Post more cute Shiki.
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>>149393481
If Shiki was able to destroy shit with a thrown knife in part 5, a bullet will do the work better.
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>>149442731
>If Shiki was able to destroy shit with a thrown knife in part 5, a bullet will do the work better.
Don't tell it to weebs, they don't even understand that bullet is flying 100 times faster than a knife.
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>>149427608
I didn't even realize this image was a two-parter till now.
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>>149443638
It's actually a full set
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>>149443708
Well shit. Have to go looking for it then
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>>149443638
How come we can't see the bamboo railing from Shiki's side?
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>>149443780
I got most of it from a Shiki /c/ thread and then these 2 from tumblr.
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>>149444672
>>149444711
Are there any official art of Mama Shiki besides the movie ticket and her cuddling Mana under the covers?
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>>149444809
I can only think of >>149395849
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>>149392610
Underrated post.
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>>149444809
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>>149392462
Gun fights are boring.
>shoot someone
>if it hits them, it either kills or incapacitates them
>if not, just keep shooting until it hits
>fights are about maintaining distance and taking cover

No, gun kata isn't real.
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>>149438675
I don't get why this gets shit on so much.
Overall I found it better than Ufo's UBW.
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>>149417720
I knew someone would bring that up eventually.
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>wake up
>have a thread dedicated to my waifu
Fuck you cunts
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Is this show any good or just edgy shit with Naruto tier eye powers?
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>>149448420
Its horrifically bad. Dont watch it
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>>149442731
To be fair knives are larger than most bullets. She's pretty dextrous and would probably hit anyway, though.
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>>149450102
Teach your baiting ways master
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