Could Goku & Vegeta both at 100% power as of the latest

>>149294066
No, because HAKAI

>>149294384
Who new gods of destruction possessed such asspull techniques

>>149294066
They only know how to job. Even their fuse form, despite being superior to their opponent still canonically lost. To ensure they keep jobbing, both of them even destroyed the earring.

>>149294066

Holy fuck, what have they done to my beloved DBZ? They went George Lucas on it.

>>149295300
No they went Toriyama all over it

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>>149295300
Leaked pics of Toriyama and Toei raping Goku/Dragon Ball

>>149295300
Daily reminder: No bad how QUALITY and cringe things turn, Super at its worst is still better than GT at its best.

>>149296078
The first half of GT is better than all of Z. The second half of GT is shit, but at least not as bad as Super

Vegeta is 14 years older than Goku at this point.
> Born 5 years earlier.
> Spent 2 more years in RoSaT.
> Goku was in the other world for 7 years.

Plus, he has also spent a lot more time in insane gravity. That's gotta take its toll too.

Could Super Saiyan God Vegitto beat Beerus?

If not, he probably could after 3-4 zenkais

>>149296078
GT is much better than Super you goober.

>>149297715
but they aren't human

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>>149296078
>Super is good because at least it isn't as bad as GT!
Wow, great argument.

>>149297816

>when something is so bad it makes shit look like gold

>>149297762

depends if they retcon beerus' power level for the 10th time

>>149294384
Yes, because MAFUBA

>>149298471
there really isn't that big of an inconsistency with Beerus if you just come to terms that Kaioken is not part of the original plot outlines.