Was there any mutual attraction? Who's fault was it that

>>148610818
There wasn´t even one side attraction.

They both were just desperate for human warmth.

>>148610818
Adan, lilith did nothing wrong

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>>148610818
Neither of the maladjusted adolescents living a psychic meatgrinder is at fault for not reading the other's mind. Before they became the same mind.

>>148613009
What the fuck is this

>>148610818
"whose",anon.
polite sage

>>148610818
Because he's really fucked up

marathoned 1-24 and then watched End of Eva

what the FUCK

>>148613009
This so hard, /a/'s self insert game is on deluxe when they talk about Eva's relationships, especially those of the pilots.

>>148613535
>not watching 25 and 26
what the FUCK

>>148613535
>he believed the internet reccomendations

>>148613535
I'm actually really disappointed you skipped 25 and 26. They're great fucking episodes. They give so much insight on the characters. You also get a better understanding as to why Shinji made his choice.

>>148614972

Plus it had a cute SoL alternate universe

>>148613535
>skipping 25 and 26

do people really do this? they're literally the culmination of the entire series and a straightforward showcasing of the main 4 and their issues.

Just as a general bit of advice for idiots in the future, it's generally better to go through shows in release order.

I see this a lot, all sorts of silly reccomendations like skipping over season one of Buffy the Vampire Slayer or whatever.

The people who tell you these kinds of things have seen it, and your point of view can change after the fact. It's best to come to you own conclusions than to listen to random strangers on the internet and their perverse "correct" orders.

>>148615060
The first time I watched it, I almost did it, because even Wikipedia said you should do that. But I was just sitting there after 24, and like: Oh for fuck sakes, it can't be that bad, I'll just fucking watch them.

>>148615121
And then you watch them and get blown away until what, two in the morning? And at that point you can't NOT watch EoE.

Sigh. Do I have to watch the movies?

>>148610818
There was at least some mutual attraction. It didn't work out because they were both too fucked in the head to achieve any meaningful romantic relationship with each other.

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>>148615431
no they fell in love and lived happy

>>148610818
Both characters wanted someone to say that they liked them,

Basically wanted someone else to make the first move; not themselves.

>>148615566
Except Asuka did make a move. Loads of times. With everyone.

>>148614800
Eva is objectively one of the best and influential anime of all time.

>>148615589

so it was baka shinji's fault?

>>148615355
EoE, yes.

The Rebuilds are their own thing

>>148615605
talking about idiots who tell you not to watch certain episodes

>>148615084
Nissio recommends Kizu as a starting point.

>>148615652
Yes, Shinji is a porcupine.

>>148610818
A bit of attraction, they're horny teenagers after all. Affection zero.

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>>148615589
>With everyone.
Other than Shinji and Kaji, who else?

At the Scene ehere they kiss, she does not say that she likes him, just that she was bored.

>>148615652
>so it was baka shinji's fault?
So Shinji has to make the first move, not Asuka?

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>>148615692

baka shinji

>>148610818
one was fag

one was bitch

maybe if one not fag and one not bitch i dunno

Asuna best girl

>>148615654
I watched that right after 25-26.

Their own thing that I need to watch? I keep seeing Asuka with an eyepatch and some third girl.

>>148615747
They're too broken to display affection like a typical human.

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>>148615751
Rei. Hikari.

not that many characters though, unless you think she should have started going after ritsuko and gendo and fuyutski.

>>148610943
>They both were just desperate for human warmth.
isnt that attraction? human relationships aren't all that complicated

>>148615789
The rebuild series fucking newfag.

>>148615791
Proven false by Kaworu.

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>>148615751
>At the Scene ehere they kiss, she does not say that she likes him, just that she was bored.

>>148610818
At that scene,
You can say that she was...

>>148615798
>human relationships aren't all that complicated
Are you serious? The entire series touches on human relationships and how difficult they are.

>>148615827
Not at all. The only reason why Shinji could bond with him was because Kaworu showed him unconditional affection. He wasn't even human yet he understood Shinji, and Shinji didn't react to how a normal person would react to that.

>>148615789
Up to you. Rebuild 1.11 is basically a remake of the first 7 episodes, 2.22 is an action movie with an Eva skin, and 3.33 is shit.

I do recommend 2.22 but keep in mind it's the Revengance of the series.

>>148615789
You don't need to watch the Rebuilds. They're a reimagining of the story. They're eye candy and fanservice at best but they seem to miss the entire point of Eva. The third movie jumped the shark.

>>148615826
Yeah but is that like the retelling or retcon, or is it its own thing?

>>148615942
3.33 is pretty good but compared to the masterpiece that is EoE yes it's a disappointment.

>>148615946
rei has a dinner party tho

>>148615930
Shinji is gay, that's all.

>>148615942
>>148615946
I'll save them for some drunk Sunday, then. Thanks!

>>148615798
>>They both were just desperate for human warmth.
>isnt that attraction?
Not quite. There's a difference between the general desire for human warmth leading one to find someone attractive, and latching on to the most likely candidate out of desperation.

the movies give you the action scenes that were missing from the last two episodes

movies - action
episodes - story

take them together but dont miss the episodes because they are more important than the movies, whoever is telling you to skip those is a dumbass

>>148616030
I wouldn't say they are more important but they are essential to understanding EoE.

>>148615751
>she does not say that she likes him, just that she was bored.
That's just how she is though. She's too stubborn to admit her true feelings. During instrumentality she hates him for not holding her.

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>>148616102
At that scene,
You can say that she was...

>>148616102
I wish I could hold Asuka.

>>148615983
>3.33 is pretty good
Not even next to VVV and AZ.

>>148615355
Fuck I remember back in early high school when it was airing on adult swim and either 4chan wasn't around or I didn't know about it yet. After the final episode aired I didn't have anyone to talk about it with besides some learn Japanese/anime forum so I just stared at my ceiling from 3am until school. Was even worse when I finished EoE. I didn't want to do anything for days I felt so empty.

>>148616211
It's not nearly as bad as you autists say it is. It's average, not good not bad.

>>148616325
Take away the production values and all that is left is an ocean of feces.

>>148615060
The concurrency of the end if evangelion is the ultimate viewing experience. It combines the last two eps with the end of evangelion in the order it supposedly takes place as it happens in shinji's mind vs what's happening in the back real world

>>148616325
I just rewatched it recently and it was worse than I remembered. It really is that bad.

>>148616291
>I didn't have anyone to talk about it
There's no worse feeling. I needed someone to patch me up after EoE destroyed me in middle school. I wasn't ready.

>>148610818
Why would he WANT to kiss a girl (or anyone) on the anniversary of his mum's death?

>>148615798
>human relationships aren't all that complicated
Haha fuck off.

>>148616012
Isn't the only difference the size of the pool of candidates?

>>148616636
why wouldn't you

>>148616582
>>I didn't have anyone to talk about it
>There's no worse feeling.

>>148616685
It's not like I don't want to be kissing girls or anything, but how it being anniversary of my mum's death an argument to be doing it? Would I not want to reflect/remember me mum and whatever all whilst not associating it with lewd acts?
This may sound a little autistic, but so does Shinji.

>>148616793
It's not a reason to, it's a challenge. She was calling him a scaredy-cat if he didn't kiss her.

And it worked.

>>148615751
>I kissed you out of boredom
Only a notch better than "I kissed you out of pity".

>>148616636
>Why would he WANT to kiss a girl (or anyone) on the anniversary of his mum's death?
Supposedly I was conceived on the anniversary of my dad's dad's death. Does that count?

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>>148617024
As what, kissing your mom?

>>148616830
>And it worked.
It got him to hold still and do exactly as she instructed until he asphyxiated. It was a total failure to her because she didn't get an arm around her waist.

>>148613535
Why?? You watch it in the right line (1-24 and then EoE) but next you need to watch 25 and 26, i prefer this way, those fucking chapters are the best and are the true essence, go to watch it

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>>148617064
better than most boys get on their first kiss

>>148616830
>a challenge. She was calling him a scaredy-cat if he didn't kiss her.
There was not "win" scenario for poor baka Shinji, innit.

>>148617064
I'll keep that in mind next time I'm told to hold still until asphyxiation.

>>148617040
As people wanting to get frisky on the the anniversary of their parents death.

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>>148617151
Are you asking me if kissing your mother occurs as frequently as wanting to bang your parents on the anniversary of their death?

>>148617084
Truth, didn't look like Asuka even rammed her teeth into his. Plus it's Asuka.

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>>148617202

I want to kissu that Asuka

>>148613535
Welcome to the club. Now go watch 25 and 26.

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newbie dump

>>148617540

delet this

>>148610818
>was there any mutual attraction
That's without a doubt, a better question is what were they actually attracted to? Obviously not each other as people. Asuka was probably attracted to attention, or the idea of being able to be in charge of Shinji. Shinji was certainly less attracted to Asuka that she was to "him", and what attraction was there was probably aimed more at a desire to be understood that transformed itself into sexual expression because teen-aged boy.

>who's fault was it
Both of theirs. Unless someone outright fails to meet an explicit commitment or desire (such as cheating or lying), it is always BOTH parties fault when a relationship dissolves, whether it's romantic or platonic. There were hardly any implicit commitments or desires between Asuka and Shinji, and they certainly never explicitly expressed their expectations for a positive relationship. The lack of established boundaries and expectations from both parties is to blame, but given that they themselves probably didn't understand what they wanted from the relationship it's kind of hard to seat the blame anywhere in particular.

It's a case of coincidence and convenience creating something that shouldn't have ever been.

>>148610818
>that quote
No wonder Shinji is so damaged.

>>148613009
You're confusing responsibility and causation, and failing to recognize the separate problems.

They didn't cause the fucked up situation and they aren't responsible for being shoved into each other's lives.

They are responsible for actively seeking to engage each other emotionally and physically and for failing to recognize that they were the primary causation for their failed communication.

>>148610818
That's a pretty fucked up thing for Asuka to say

>>148618001
>Asuka was probably attracted to attention, or the idea of being able to be in charge of Shinji.
There was a little more, she was already mad at Shinji when she started talking candidly about her family just because he was listening. She wanted to be raw with somebody and get patted on the head, too, and she was angry at the impulse.

>>148618679
I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but
>she started talking candidly about her family just because he was listening. She wanted to be raw with somebody and get patted on the head, too
can be effectively summed up as "attracted to attention".

>>148618751
No, Asuka pursued validation to deny those vulnerabilities existed at all. Appealing to pity for attention was Shinji's thing.

>>148619193
>pursued validation
Falls within the umbrella of
>attracted to attention

It's certainly a more complex emotional response, but ultimately if she didn't have a strong desire to be noticed and receive attention from others, then she wouldn't be seeking validation in the first place.