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Shingeki no Kyojin/SnK

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What is even happening
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Zeke a cute.
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ISAYAMAAAAAAA
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>>148212472
Answers.

Also Grisha's 2nd wife got eaten by his 1st wife.
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Ymir was hated for being Eldian but she was especifically targeted for being named Ymir.
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Elodians are Nazis or Jews. Mares are Nazis or Jews.
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So who's right?
Grisha or Mare?
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AM is endgame.
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How did she getta butt like this?
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If Eren had even attempted to understand BRA he might have been able to convince them to fight on his side.
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>>148212633
No one's right.
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>>148212635
SUGOI
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the feudal society within the walls is not worth defending from the advanced society of Mare

Grisha is the worst father in the world, using his children as weapons of revenge
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>>148212635
HOW SHE GOTTA DONK LIKE THAT?
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>>148212633
If Gundam has taught me anything, it's that both sides are wrong. And also that only a teenager in a giant robot can save the world.
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Are you /TeamGrisha/ or /TeamZeke/, anon?
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>>148212634
>>148212635
Literally the first threads in ages that didn't have shipping faggotry. And now it's ruined again.
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What do you think Eren will do? He is the most powerful titan. Will he find a way to make peace?
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>>148212472
So far, some eldians are living the life in Paradi while some eldiams are living the thug life surrounded by mares. Also, Mares went full eugenics and brainwashing eldian children to stole a power that would guarantee them their power over who? If mares are worried about power that means there are other nations outside that are a danger but not aware of Paradi and shit?
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>>148212723
Lol no
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>>148212635
>>148212689
damn, she got da butt wit da good pants.
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>>148212717
I'm /everyoneashit/
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>>148212635
I want her to sit on my face
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So they will get married right?
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>>148212472
I hate Grisha but that was really cute.
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big nose who knows A FUCKING SHIT
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>>148212783
Yes.
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>>148212783
YH is now Frozen
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BRA a big shit
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It looks like Reiner was talking about looking out for his fellow Elodians living in the ghetto on this page.
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>>148212635
E N D G A M E
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>>148212717
Team manlet is the right choice, he is going to fight fot the people and not for the interest of a bunch of assholes.
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>>148212783
Go back to your Oreimo threads, incestfag
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>>148212783
Why? If Ymir really is a Fritz, she's still Eludian.
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>>148212863
Forgot pic.
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Ymir is still alive. She's an Eldian kid like BRAZ and maybe she was used as a weapon too, like BRA.
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>>148212717
/TeamAckerman/ superior nordic aryan race.
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Post top waifuable shingekis
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>>148212783
When they fuck they'll create the ancient titan and the new Paradise.
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>>148212717
Zeke. He was right.
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LM soon.
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>>148212927
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>>148212927
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So what was the royal family's plan? It would seem they thought they if they just stayed on the island they'd be fine, but did they really not have a better plan to defend themselves?
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>>148212927
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>>148212927
Historia a fucking shit
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>>148212830
At first everything was titan, now everything feels like extremely distant incest, if you can still count it as that.
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>>148212921
Poor Reiner, no wonder why he went full crazy.
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>>148212902
kek

if the LMfags get a pass then so does YH
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>>148212633
Grisha.
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>>148213023
They didn't. Uris thought that they would be wiped out some day.
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LM never.
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>>148213077
At worst they're distantly related.
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>>148213023
They only had two titans.
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>>148212717
Zeke is right.
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>>148213077
They would be very distantly related anyway.
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>>148213098
LM always.
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Neck length haircut is perfect tbqh, which is one of the reasons why Mi casa es su casa a best

Prove me wrong
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EXTREMELY C U T E
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>>148213023
They have all thise CTs. Also FT will is living forever in those walls. I assume that every Reiss used to think "we should avenge our people, rescue the othet eldians, expand and conques" and so, but once they won the coordinate memories, they kinda get they should attone their sins or avoid repeating the same mistakes.
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>>148212717
Are they brothers?
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Who was the devil tho.
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>>148212783
>incestfags.
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If Grisha hadn't messed everything up, would the Reiss have handled things?
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Wow! I said WOW!
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>>148213192
Father/son.
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>>148213098
This is real? I dropped shingeki long time ago
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>>148213212
The mass invasion, yes. BRA might have gotten Frieda though.
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>Isayama made Mikasa's family a branch family of Levi's
>Isayama made Historia's family a branch family of Ymir's

What did he mean by this?
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>>148213227
No way. So Monkey man is trying to kill his grandson?
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Down with the pussy royal family. HEIL QUEEN YMIR. ELDIAN'S TRUE LORD AND SAVIOR
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>>148212783
Looks like they can also have magic kids now.
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>>148213295
No. Grisha is Zeke's father. Eren and Zeke are brothers.

And Zeke wants to save Eren.
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>Marens think he's a monster because of what his Erudian ancestors did.
>Erudians think he's a monster because of what his Mare leaders told him to do.
>The only friends he has are all dead or gone.
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>>148213295
Just leave.
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>>148213298
She wants that pussy, so it's ok.
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>>148212717
Team Erwin forever and always.
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>>148213327
Someone still has to do it.
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>>148213325
If Zeke wants to save Eren then why is he throwing stones at him?
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So this is all just a battle for the throne between two branches of the Fritz family?
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>>148213371
He wasn't.
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>>148213286
That MYLH is the one true alliance.
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Grisha's Father: From here on is the dark part of our history. Ymir’s people, who had the power of the Titans, decided that other citizens were inferior, and began to oppress them. They stole land and assets from these citizens and annilihated them, and forcibly impregnated them in order to increase their numbers. This ethnic cleansing carried on for 1700 years.
Grisha: I swore I’d teach them which side was truly the devil. What our ancestors did was just.
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>>148213402
What if Eren is actually older than Zeke?
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>>148213401
No. Reiss and Fritz are on the same side. The Reiss are just holding the shifter and coordinate powers while Fritz rule.
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>>148213433
Grisha is irredeemable scum.
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>>148213433
Eldians a shit.
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>>148213433
Grisha a shit. Sieg was right.
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>>148213461
Did the Fritz family even still exists after Ymir Fritz died and her soul split up into 9 titans?
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BRAM had the hardest lives.
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Royal wedding to restore the glory of Ymir's people when?
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>>148212717
bo pus team grisha
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>>148213433
Ottomans were right.
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>>148213580
We get it, you're delusional. No need to repeat it more than 2 times a thread.
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>>148213580
>incest
>glory
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>>148213023
They have a fuck ton of colossal titans ready to fuck up the whole world at a moments notice.
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Reminder that Ymir ruined the entire world. An offscreen death is better than she deserves.
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True rulers.
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>>148213433
Grisha is l the typical WWII jap apologist
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>>148213580
Soon.
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>>148213433
>Grisha: I swore I’d teach them which side was truly the devil. What our ancestors did was just
You know, this reminded me of that time when Isayama said that Japan did literally nothing wrong to Koreans and that they actually civilized them.
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>>148213626
So if Grisha hadn't showed up that night, would Frida have unleashed them in retaliation?
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>>148213667
Go to bed, Grisha.
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Is Grisha Isayama self-insert?
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>>148213720
No, it's probably a mix of Ymir, Levi and Jean, but mostly Levi.
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>>148213691
No. If that was what she wanted to do he wouldn't have gone in a autistic rage.
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>>148213647
>Grisha
you mean Isayama.
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Do you think Historia will remember the book and we'll see the legend from another viewpoint? It feels like there is more to it.
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>>148213720
It's Armong.
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>>148213782
>Ymir's people propaganda.
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>>148213666
Trips confirm royal wedding happening SOON
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>>148213433
What a faggot
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>>148213782
Historia is a dumb bimbo and she probably forgot about the book.
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>>148213817
>Mare propaganda
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>>148213778
So what the fuck was her plan then? How long was she planning on waiting when Mare is blatantly attacking them?
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This thread needs more of this handsome man!
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>>148213691
We don't know for sure what they were planning but I think Grisha probably wanted them to retaliate and wipe out the Mare like he was always planning and then he killed them when they refused.
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>>148213782
>This is what Erudian scum actually believe.
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Reminder that Ymir's people did nothing wrong. Mare deserved to be massacred for being inferior.
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So if BRA are Eldians as well. Is there actually anyone from the main cast who are Mares?
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>>148213905
Yeah, but if they're just going to roll over and let Mare attack, then they should just give up the coordinate, and spare the people the genocide. Living in ghettos may suck, but its better than being slaughtered.
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>>148213931
Calm down, Frieda.
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>>148213896
I think they don't even knew, until now, that Mares broke the cold war pact and want the coordinate, so probably they just wanted to keep living like always.
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>>148213943
BRA's blood may be Erudian, but they have the hearts of true Mares.
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>>148212472
is this an EH confirmation?
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>>148213943
Mikasa and manlet.
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>>148213931
Back to the ghetto, Eldian.
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>>148214048
Looks nothing like them.
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?: I knew it, the history we learnt at school was just the delusions of the Mare!!
?: That’s right!! Even though they can fool idiots, they can’t fool us true Eldians!!
?: Grisha successfully interpreted this ancient text.
G: No, I have yet to understand most of it.
?: ….? Then how did you understand the truth?
G: ? Isn’t it obvious?
Because I believe in Ymir!! We are the chosen children of God!! Ymir’s people!!
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>>148214053
Manlet has probably eldian blood from his father side. Unless Kenny was actually the biggest siscon in this manga.
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>>148213931
Grisha pls.
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Where the fuck are my English scans?
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How does the Ilse notebook chapter come into play in this situation?
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>>148214008
If I'm remembering the context right, they had to have known. It was a little bit after the wall fell, and they were there to pray, and Grisha somehow found them.

If they really did refuse to retaliate against Mare, than Grisha was right to kill them all.
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>>148214101
>We are the chosen children of God!! Ymir’s people!!
Not even trying to keep it subtle with all those Israelites references.
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>>148214242
Grisha shhhhh.
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Is there really a devil and a God in SnK world?
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How would Rod not have known the context of the attack, if Grisha shows up and presumably starts ranting about what's going on to Frida, and making demands? Was he just not listening, or didn't comprehend it?
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>>148214335
The devil part is propaganda from mare
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That explains why all of BRA have big prominent noses
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>Grisha is an Eldian war-crimes denialist
>Grisha forced his sons Zeke and Eren to become human weapons for his revenge
>Grisha murdered the royal family keeping peace in the world in cold blood
>Grisha hid all his information from the walled civilization that could've benefited humanity
Grisha is literally the worst
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>>148214385
The bigger the nose the purest the Eldian.
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>>148214335
Mare saw Ymir as the devil, while Eldians refer to her as a god.
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>>148214398
He murdered them after they betrayed their people by cowardly refusing to strike back against the Mare, once they attacked.

Frida must have been a misanthrope, or a dumbass.
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Annie better not join the Erudians.
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>>148214398
Grisha is literally a dibs fedora.
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>>148214464
She should, she is with family now.
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Grisha is /pol/
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>>148214444
Frieda, unlike Grisha, is a good person that didn't want to commit genocide and repeat the cycle of violence.
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>>148214464
Her father is an Eldian.
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>>148214444
>Frieda must be a misanthrope wince she didn't destroy the world.
We know you're mad Grisha. Sieg was still right.
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>>148213098
Does Eren like having Levi's sloppy seconds?
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>>148214444
The Reiss refused to restart the cycle of Eldian on Eldian violence of the 80-year titan war
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>>148214517
Yeah but Frieda is chilling in the safety of the Walls while Grisha knows the Mare invasion is imminent, which the Reiss family doesn't seem to care for
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>>148212783
reddit by day, tumblr by night.
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>>148214517
So her response to Wall Maria falling, and the cold war they'd been having with Mare swiftly going hot is to not use the trump card they have to retaliate? What were her plan to stop Mare from genociding her own people?
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>>148214557
Probably, I wouldn't put it past him to have some fucked up kinks.
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>>148214464
She is an Eludian though. She was probably bullied and spat on by the Mares whenever she went outside the ghetto. She's only doing this because of indoctrination by the Maren government and her parents wealth and shit.
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>>148212717
/TeamWall
Cause other team is revenge fueled genocidal maniacs that wants to lay exterminatus on innocent people, just because they have access to WMD and may use it in some undefined future.
Even Imperium of Man seems less trigger happy than Mares.
Also all of Zeke's mission is like:
>NATO should declare war on Russia just in case they will someday use their nuke stash.
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>>148214427
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>>148214566
I mean its not even imminent, its already started by that night.
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>>148214629
Nothing, the Reiss family gave up and accepted the fact that the Mares would eventually kill them one way or another
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>>148214670
>I'm the only one who can understand you after all
>You're both like me, I couldn't do anything by myself
It all makes so much sense now.
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>>148214710
Then why not try and negotiate a surrender, instead of just sitting back and letting them kill everyone?

Unless that is what they were planning on doing, and Grisha got pissed at that.
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>>148214667
Yeah except the Mares may literally have a WWII army and actual nukes soon so it won't matter
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>>148214667
>revenge fueled genocidal maniacs that wants to lay exterminatus on innocent people
That's team wall though. And Grisha and Eren are very delusional members of them.
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>>148214670
Funnily enough Sasha also called Ymir and Historia gods. Rod as well. Only Mares refer to them as devils.
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>>148214667
>revenge fueled genocidal maniacs that wants to lay exterminatus on innocent people
You just described Grisha "our ancestors were just" Jeager.
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>>148214749
Because they know that the Mares want them dead no matter what once they get the technology to do it, but they don't want to go an offensive, so they're just waiting for their demise

But Grisha changed all of that
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>>148214742
Yeah still don't get it. Unless she is Ymir Fritz I still don't really get her character.
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>>148214827
Seems pretty shitty of them. Could have at least tried to do something.
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>>148214850
This guy is too young to have possibly known Ymir.
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>>148213286
That they are related. But Mikasa and Levi are from the same branch.
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>>148213484
>>148213520
I just want to murder all the Mare and take over the world, but, hey, that's your opinion and I'm fine with that. Looks like you've got some growing up to do.
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We're one more step to eventual EA canonization, rejoice brothers!

>>148212873
But that's not EA anon.
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>>148212717
Does Zeke get as much pussy as Grisha and Eren?
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>>148214866
Like they could have revealed to everyone why they were getting slaughted, instead of keeping it a secret.
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Rumor has it, Annie's crystal chamber is starting to reek of piss...
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Grisha is batshit insane
I understand why Eren is so fucked up now
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>>148212783
Yes, to Eren and Reiner
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>>148214857
>I still don't get it
It means that Ymir was an Eldian child living in Mare territory and it's possible that she was also chosen to become a warrior like BRA were. Ymir understand their situation because she literally was there as well.
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Gisha would uniroically say Griffith did nothing wrong
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>>148214894
>only Mares
It's all of the world, non Mares included. Because Eldian are the master race(tm).
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>>148214899
I think that Eren will try to talk with Annie in the following chapters. I don't ship them but this is almost a fact.
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>>148214963
But Griffith did nothing wrong.
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>>148214892
Well all Eldian's are related. Actually apparently these nine bloodline just share a part of her soul, whatever that means.
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>>148214993
I hope so, but they have to find a way to get her out of that crystal.
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>>148215015
Hello Eldian fellow.
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>Be a Paradi citizen
>Be a descendant from mass murderers eugenics conquerors
>Be brainwashed by your leader so you could live forever in the walls atoning for the sins you never commited, but that would be blamed on you if you dare to get out

>Be Mare citizen
>Be a descendant from previous slaves that turned into slavers
>Rule the world with the weapons your previous rulers used against you
>Use the weapons to the point they are going to break
>Decide to go and get the weapons you couldn't get from your enemy
>Use the descendants of your enemies to do the job
>Keep calling yourself the only one victim

Mares a shit.
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So I guess that Eren's final target is Zeke?
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>>148215047
The crystal is the same as the hardening ability Eren's learnt, right?
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>>148214993
Hitch will
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>>148215061

this
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>>148214954
I think there is more to it, especially since she shares the same name with Ymir Fritz. There is also the titan bowing and Ymir saying she was born as Ymir, which makes it sound like a role.
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>>148213782
See, maybe Ymir was actually pretty cool and everything, but let's not forget the fight against the mare was mostly a "9 titans" thing. Maybe they went full ethnical cleansing after Ymir was gone.

Not even Grisha has said nothing about the nine titans.
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>>148215124
Ymir's people were probably the top notch between Eldians.
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>>148215078
We still don't know one of the other titan shifters IIRC, I think whoever that is will end up being the last boss and Eren and Zeke will have to work together to "win". They'll probably realise at some point that Grisha done fucked up and want to team up.
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>>148215124
Maybe there's a stigma to the name since Eldians are "Ymir's people". It would be like meeting someone named Hitler in today's age.
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You know it will all return to nothing.
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>>148215229
No, SnK actually makes sense unlike Eva.
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>forcing his two sons to become human weapons

Zeke's right
Grisha a shit.
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>>148215124
The Ilse titan incident does make me think that Ymir is a Fritz as well and not just any Fritz, but a direct descendant of the main branch and the possible heiress to the Fritz throne before they were overthrown by the Mares. Then she, along with the family that stayed behind, were forced to live as commoners but Ymir was still hated for being a Fritz and for having the name Ymir so eventually she was "sent to heaven" so the Mare people could live in peace.
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>This is because they must be a good match for the power of the seven Titans

So we originally had BRAMZ sent on the mission. That's 5. I assume Grisha somehow got the 6th. So there's a 7th shifter?
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>>148212599
Ymir was hated for being lesbian
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So Mares had in their power seven shifters abilities. And they eventually give it to seven children.
Bert, Reiner, Annie and Marcel were four. Zeke was the fifth. Mule titan maybe is the sixth.
But how Grisha and Ymir regained their human forms if there is only so few shifter
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>>148215260
You should know it by now, you're just too idiot to get it.
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>>148215264
How did he inject Zeke?
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>>148215264
I like how Grisha didn't know what the fuck he was talking about, and just made shit up.
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>>148215284
Ymir.
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>>148215306
he volunteered his own son to join the Mare armed forces as a child warrior
that's some shitty parenting
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So Eren didn't only inherit the coordinate, but he also got Grisha's titans.
Two shifters for one kid.
Eren, I'm rooting for you lil dude.
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>>148215326
She got Marcle's.
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>>148215303
>>148215284
>>148215326

Forgot about Mule Titan. Marcel was eaten by Ymir, remember?

My bet is that Grisha ate the remaining shifter.
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>>148215314
the average /pol/ack
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>>148215303
Ymir has Marcel's shifting powers. Grisha probably took the shifting power of one of the Eldian living inside the walls.
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>>148215362
>>148215363
Yeah, I somehow forgot that. Never mind.
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>>148215371
The average Eldianfag.
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>>148215084
Not really, I'm pretty sure that Eren's hardening ability just gives some his titan form some extra Armour.
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Still can't get over how useless Frida and the royals are, if they really were just going to do nothing, and let the Mare kill them all.
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Any reason why Ymir's titan form looks like that though? It doesn't seem like she received just any titan serum.
Or could it be that her bloodline affected her form?
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>>148215363
>>148215373

You are right.

>>148215373 This doesn't make any sense. Are all wall people shifters?
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They didn't deserve the terrible lives they got. Wallist Eldians and Marens are both fucking shit.
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>>148215421
That seems to be what the crystal is, just to a much greater extent. It's probably the same material at least, right?
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Will Zeke be able to save his otouto?
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>>148215455
Wall people are innocents.
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>>148215455
BRA and ErHa are the only good Eldians.
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>>148215455
Eldians literally did nothing wrong. It was their ancestors and Grisha who were shit.
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>>148215494
Eren's probably dead one way or the other.
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>>148215423
They were clearly gathered for something that night, we just don't know what.
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>>148215421
I hope they do Lost Girls OVAs.
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>>148214774
>>148214815
thats why it's /TeamWall not /TeamGrisha
He was an asshole but he was an individual in a whole society and wall country as whole can not be held responsible for his actions.
What Mare did was nuking Ireland for having IRA terrorist member inside Ireland's territory.

Before Mare attack most, if not all but Grisha and king, people did not know that outside world existed, so they could not plan to exterminate Mares and anything like that.
Even in this situation the king did what he could to prevent any thought that could led to a new war.

Mare people were injured by old Elidians, but that people died. By time of manga action wall people are not responsible for anything aggressive.
So Mare conducted unprovoked act of aggression against peaceful(for at least 100 years) and weak nation, that resulted in nearly million casualties. With biological weapon of mass destruction, against civilians and using child soldiers. It is becoming hard to find more violations of how war should be waged according to international standards.
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>>148215494
Yes.
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>>148215446
>Or could it be that her bloodline affected her form?
This because she looks identical as Ymir Fritz from frieda's book.
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>>148215494
Eren is too far gone. He'll have to kill him and end the curse.
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>>148215145
>Maybe they went full ethnical cleansing after Ymir was gone.
I think it's even implied the 9 titan bloodlines went full retard after she died.
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>>148215499
No they aren't. The only difference between them and the Marens is that they were never given the opportunity to commit genocide on the Marens. Until now.
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>>148215363
I still want to know who the second Titan shifter in the Walls was, I'm surprised they didn't come up in the political arc
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>>148215494
Save him from what? Eren just want freedom. Zeke wants a petty revenge that doesn't make sense. Ah, worse than revenge, Zeke wants to give offensive power to an ambitious government that only wants to continue making war with who knows what nations out there.
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>>148215558
Ymir Fritz was the girl not the titan
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>>148215599

Maybe it's the Mule Titan.
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>>148215599
It was probably a Fritz family member.
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What is their true objective? There's no way these retards could survive this long just by chance
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>>148215468
I dunno man, maybe you're right. I just want Annie back in my SnK.

>>148215543
I wonder which studio would handle the ovas.
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>>148215551
>not responsible for anything aggressive.
Except killing each other, which seems like something Eldians really like to do.
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>>148215645
He wasn't inside the walls though?
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>>148215603
>Eren just wants freedom.
No. He wants genocide like his insane dad.
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>>148215591
Yes, they are innocents because they haven't commited a crime yet. While Mares are commited a lot. I am talking of the actual mares and eldian, not the previous generations. Unless you are judging them with a level of minority report logic.
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>>148215558
The current Ymir's titan form looks like what Mares called the devil in their legend.
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>>148215599
Maybe it was the Leonhart family, but Annie's dad decided fuck Eldia and went to join Mare and the rest of the shifters. That's why Annie's family isn't 100% trusted.
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We'll see her again soon, right?
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>>148215655
Sasha is useless. Will die soon.
Connie was there for the village shit.
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Eldians just can't help but commit genocide and associated atrocities. It's in their blood. If there are no minorities to oppress, they'll turn on each other. They should be purged from the earth.
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>>148215680

Maybe he was second in command below Warchief Zeke, and the 2 just chilled outside the walls.
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The Owl could also be a lying shit too. And Grisha's group just blindly believed anything he said.
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>>148215181
In nipland mostly manletfags are still reading the manga.
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Ymir's resemblance to the fake king is uncanny
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>>148215731
Sasha and Connie (and maybe Jean) will be the only ones to survive the war probably.
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>>148215539
>Grisha: "Hey I'm a poor Eldian from Mare territory, my sister was killed my Mare hounds when I was a kid and I've hated Mares since. The Mares are also planning on taking the coordinate from you guys and massacring all of the Wall dwellers, not just the residents of Wall Maria. So are you guys are going to retaliate against the Mares now?"
>Frieda: "Nah we all deserve to die, your dumb sister included"
>Grisha: "U fookin wut m8?"

And the rest is history
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>>148213691
>>148213778
I assumed she was going to do the memory wipe.
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>>148215771
Only their eye shape is similar.
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>>148215551
Mythology aside what's the actual explanation for Titans appearing? Advanced biological weapon made by science?

And why do the wall people suppress technology
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>>148215711
Maybe only the "Ymirs" get that form as a titan for being the ones that accepted the power.
Or that our Ymir is actually the original Ymir but she thinks way less time has passed.
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>>148215826
If they didn't supress technology it'd be too easy for them to find out the truth.
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>>148215707
Eldians were opressing their people as much as Maren, m8. Did you forget the Ackerman and other minorities cleasing, the SL or the underground prison?
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>>148215826
Devil magic.
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BRA and Zeke fight to protect their people.
Eren and Grisha fight to avenge their people.
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>>148212900
>>148212925
My niggas.
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>>148215826
>And why do the wall people suppress technology

I think it was to prevent people from escaping the walls.
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>>148215652
Then where are they now with downfall of the government?
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>>148215555
witnessed
>>148215603
Obviously no one is "right" in this scenario, but the wall people are basically sitting on a huge ass nuclear bomb that has the power to destroy the world without realizing it. We also don't know entirely how the coordinate works, if the wall titans were given the order to sleep how can we know for sure that they will follow it indefinitely? What if there's a set time for how long an order lasts and they need to order the titans to stand down or else everything will be annihilated? In that scenario, they need someone to use the coordinate.
>>148215686
At this point, I think even Eren isn't sure what he wants.
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>>148215839
This, she has been in that Titan forever, she's probably the original, and the cause of all this
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>>148215883
or Zackley's "artwork"
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>>148215724
Yes, also is that Jean comforting her?
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>>148215707
They were literally wiping out minorities within the walls. They can't stop committing genocide even when they're not at war.
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>>148215826
>Mythology aside what's the actual explanation for Titans appearing?
I'm going to assume that there was no evil and it was Ymir Fritz who experimented with all kinds of medicine to achieve human immortality.
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>>148215724
I hope so! Hitch is sweetness!
Who is she cuddling in this picture?
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>>148215717
I doubt it, she's probably just an Eldian who became one of the 7 shifters for the Mares
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>>148215675
>Except killing each other, which seems like something Eldians really like to do.
When?
I think that since they settled in walls there was none major war within the walls.
And crime is universal thing and there was secret police but it's main job was to ensure that wall people would stay not become threat to outside world.
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>>148215947
This. Eldians a shit.
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LH a best!
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>>148215811
Show me your secret copy of the chapter where it actually showed what they said and not just your speculation.
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>>148215839
She said she was born as Ymir though, so it's most likely the former.
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>>148215305
classic
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>>148215958
Most likely explanation.

I bet alchemy is involved somehow because authors love alchemy.
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So it can surely be said that the basement wasn't the letdown everyone expected then?
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>>148215839
I think Ymir's situation is gonna end in reincarnation matters. Something like original Ymir can be reborn in the bloodline.

This could explain her given name but also why Ymir thinks she has nothing to do because she is a 'different person'.
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So it goes like this. The Fritz are the leaders of the Eldian (Ymir's people)

After Ymir Fritz died, the power was distributed among 9 family lines

>Fritz
>Leonhardt
>Braun
>Hoover
>Yaeger
>Reiss
>Marcel's family
>Mule titan's family

And one other that we don't know of yet. Only these 9 bloodlines possess the capability to turn into titans.
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>>148215958
We got mind wiping, so muh magic is possible in snk.
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>>148215811
>SISTER MAREN HOUNDS FUCKING SHIT DAD KRUEGE CHILDREN OF GOD GENOCIDE THEM US SUPERIOR RACE SIEG HEIL KILL THEM ALL FELLOW COUNTRYMEN WARRIOR A SHIT!!!!!
FTFY.
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>>148216042
Definitely not, it was a reveal and a half.
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>>148215826
it's magic don't gotta explain shit
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>>148215229
>tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
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Bert deserved life. He fought for the sake of his people.
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>/snk/ is team Zeke
Fucking digusting
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>>148215941
>>148215960
Not even close http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=41998289
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>>148215989
so cute
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>>148216042
No the last chapter left us hanging and we thought that was it
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>>148216130
Settle down there Hitler.
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No peace until the SL has been wiped out. Eren and Armin especially must die before things can move forward
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>>148216130
I'm /TeamWall/

Zeke and Grisha both a shit.
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>>148216130
Fuck off, devilspawn supremacist.
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>>148216060
>Ymir Fritz died
Let's not forget that "dying" could mean becoming a titan too.
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>>148216043
Pretty much this.
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>>148216144
That's an interesting pairing.
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>>148216185
This. The SL are nothing but warmongers. Good thing they're almost all dead.
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>>148216241
OTP.
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>>148216188
This.
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>>148216241
Very
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>>148216130
Team Ackermanlet here. I want Manlet to kill everyone and then just live as the pimp of all the women turned into prostitutes against their wills. He can repopulate the world with his harem.
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Reminder that the royal family had accessible to the memories of all their forebearers and each inheritor chose to maintain the wall. Which means even with an army of Titans they can't win. This is all not even important enough to warrant the full power of the Mares
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>>148216000
>>148216043
>born as Ymir
Maybe being born is becoming human again.
I think she is the original Ymir.
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>>148213243
Yes
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>>148216144
Do you think she can take him?
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>>148216294
No one's stopping you from writing that doujin
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>>148216060
It says they gave the power to random kids from eldian families to become warriors in exchange for citizenship and comfort no? Their families are not special
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>>148216130
I don't think there's a good side to this besides maybe the people in complete ignorance, but Grisha is definitely looking like a bloodthirsty extremist that wanted to escalate the conflict rather than stop it.
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>>148216241
>Implying both are not the biggest siscon in this manga.
>Muh Faye
>Muh Kuchel
They are anons embodiment of wanting to fuck a imouto.
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What did Frida say to trigger Grisha into killing them all?
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>>148216346
I wish there was a SNK breeding harem doujin.
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>>148216241
I'm pretty sure there were some joke edits of this pairing in the threads for the political arc, wish I'd saved them.
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>>148216375
Too bad everyone fucked Kuchel before Kenny could get to her.
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>>148215826
there's no explanation yet, we'll probably see it once we get ymir's backstory
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The Eldians outside the walls most likely vastly outnumber those in the walls. If BRAM retrieving the Coordinate would have stopped the Eldians from being oppressed, then they genuinely did nothing wrong. There would have been true peace instead of more genocide and oppression like Grisha wanted.
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>>148216144
Well that's a ship I've never come across before.
It's very cute actually.

>>148216241
Kenny would ruin him.

>>148216294
It might be a better ending than anything Isayama could write.
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>>148216311
So the walls are to keep the outside people from retaliation and the Titans are left over remnants of a genocide
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>>148216315
In the Japanese raw Ymir does say something about having been reincarnated.
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>>148216390
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>>148216130
Fuck off Eldian sympathizer.
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>>148216294
>team chuuni fujobait here
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>>148216380
"We are not superior to anyone."
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If mindless colossal titans are so powerful they pose a threat to a WWI era or better military then why could an intelligent one get taken down by a mere two soldiers?
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>>148216449
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>>148216434
Yeah, I think like this anon >>148216043

Original Ymir died for her people and reincarnated as actual Ymir.
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>>148216380
"All lives matter, fucker."
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>>148216375
Fuck off degenerate EMshit. Imoutos are for pure.
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>>148216311
They don't seem like they want to fight back, not that they can't

Ten million Colassal Titans can take on a WWI army that seems to be displayed in Grisha's childhood, it wouldn't easy, but it could be done

A WWII army is a different story though with the huge development of Air Forces, throw actual nukes in there and the Eldians are doomed
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>>148216453
Your pic is ironic, because they picked Eldians as their liege.
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>>148216504
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>>148216509
Real myth Ymir was a hermaphrodite. I guess a man being reborn as a woman is how Isayama decided to handle that.
>>
new thread?
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Isn't Ymir being kin of hypocritical when she says that she's living under her real name? I mean, she is hiding her last name after all.
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>>148216538
They were kept ignorant about their lineage. That will change very soon.
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>>148216551
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Nah. I don't buy it. Isayama is fucking with us again.

I just can't see Grisha being evil for some reason. Yeah, maybe at the beginning, but living inside the walls seems to have changed him.

It just doesn't make sense that he would kill the Reiss family and then commit sudoku. I don't think he wanted Frieda to nuke everything because that would mean certain death for Eren and he obviously cared.

I think he begged Frieda to stop the CT and AT but for some reason she refused. Maybe because she thought they deserved what happened or something. It's still not cool that Grisha killed Friedas mother and siblings tho.

There must be more to this than just "Grisha was an edgy faggot that wanted to see the world burn because muh injustice".
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>>148216509
I wonder if her titan looking like what was portrayed as the devil in the Mare legend means she is related to it.
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>>148216607
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>>148216655
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>>148216639
Frieda's the edgy faggot if she didn't want to stop BRA destroying the walls.
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>>148212925
>>148215895
>superior nordic aryan race.
But Ackermans are Asiatic foreigners...... that's why they are immune to brainwashing
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>>148216639
It is coming from Grisha's own mouth
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>>148212635
WOW VERY CUTE

SUGOIII KAWAIII DESU
>>
Ymir = devil titan
Historia = angel titan
Their love for each other will bring peace to humanity
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>Ackermans turn their backs on the other minorities, go within the walls and stay loyal to the Eldians.
>Eldians turn on them a few decades later and massacres them.

I guess old habits die hard. That's what you get for trusting a Jew.
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>>148216639
It makes though. He was just this deep in his Eldian ideology, and this is obvious in the books. And in the next chapter we'll know who's like Grisha or not.
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>>148216716
We are not there yet anon, there are still two more books.
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>>148215494
Let's see:
>Grisha indirectly got his sister brutally killed
>Grisha's first wife was titanized and unwillingly killed his second wife
>Forced his second born son to kill him
>Eren unknowingly killed his dad's first wife
>Grisha's sons are on opposite sides
Zeke will unintentionally cause Eren's death even though he wants to protect him.
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>>148216639
I think we're being fucked with because the history Grisha tells in his diary obviously isn't the 100% truthful history. And we will learn that this Ymir Fritz was actually a good person or something.
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>>148216705
The only Ackerman with Asian decent is Mikasa, who got that from her mother.
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>>148216449
>>148216504
>>148216551
>>148216607
>>148216655
>>148216693
That was it, thanks anon. It was a shining beacon in the dark days of those threads.
>>148216501
Because it was just one, the walls contain literally thousands.
>>148216705
Mikasa was "asian" on her mom's side, her dad was the Ackerman, they're something else.
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>>148216753
Eric Cartman was right.
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>>148216639
You don't understand the power of a siscon. Everything he felt, thought and did, was because Faye's death, similar to Erwin with his dad, but Erwin wasn't a faggot.
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>>148216789
Well Isayama did say he was taking inspiration from Paradise Lost
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>>148216705
Stupid. Ackermans are not Asians, only Mikasa's mother.
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>>148216748
I guess Isayama really likes to do contrasts with them.
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>>148216817
Erwin was a faggot in the sense of being a homosexual. Grisha is a faggot in the sense of being an asshole.
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>>148216789
I'm getting the same feeling.
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>>148216789
And it's obvious that Grisha is an extremelly biased retard.
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I want to look deep into Eren's perfect green eyes before stealing a kiss until he's out of breath.
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>>148216999
Hi Levi.
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>>148216999
Annie please
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>>148216999
Zeke, that is a naughty thing to do!
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>>148216999
Calm down Mikasa.
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How can you hate these poor kids after this chapter?
The only difference between them and the 104th is the place in which they were born.
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HOW THE FUCK DID YMIR GET THE TITAN POWER? WHO WAS THE FIRST TITAN AND HOW DID THEY BECOME THAT WAY?THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY FUCKING MATTERS HOW DID THIS ALL START AND WHO THE FUCK IS THE DEVIL????
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>>148216060
>Reiss
Actually the Reiss family was just a royal family that Faye mentioned, which was picked by the first king to pass down the titan power to their children. They weren originally one of the 9 titan families.
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>>148217198
Poor babies.
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>>148217198
BRA knew they were killing thousands of innocent people ignorant of the truth
>>
someone post the Oi pages
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>>148216241
At this point Grisha is the straightest character in the series... heck, he might actually be the only one
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>>148217208
It's propaganda, there's probably some sciencey explanation with it that Isayama hasn't revealed yet.
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>>148217198
No, because they weren't ignorant.
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>>148217231
*weren't
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>>148217263
magic was already confirmed in snk since mind wiping
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>>148217254
Nope. All they knew was that the rich Eldians had hid inside the walls and abandoned the rest of them. And they thought King Reiss was going to unleash the Wall Titans on the rest of the world.
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>>148217332
Yeah but I still feel like there's more to the titan origin story than "lol devil magic", somehow.
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Ymir is the only good person in SnK
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>>148217282
They weren't ignorant because the Marens kept telling them how terrible their ancestors were and that they deserved to be oppressed.
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>>148217263
So propaganda for what though? The titans were actually the bad ones being picked on before they had the ability to turn into titans?? Almost like if the Jews got super powers and then started destroying the Germans is that what's going on?
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>>148217348
>Eldians hadn't done anything for 100 years
>Better murder thousands of people just in case anyway
>5 years pass
>Eldians still haven't done anything
>Better try murder thousands more people just in case anyway
BRA are shit
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>>148217423
>Only good person.
>Damned the rest of the world to a 2000 year war.
>>
So what does the "To you in 2000 years" mean, considering the newest information?
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>>148217447
I mean that Ymir Fritz maybe did experiments on humans and created the titans out of that, but didn't want to take the blame so it's "devil magic". The "deal with the devil" is selling your soul to science or some shit like that, perhaps.

Or it could all just be devil magic because Isayama couldn't think of a better explanation.
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>>148217472
Fuck off, Eldians were ethnically cleaning innocents inside the walls and keeping the rest ignorant about it.
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>>148217423
I feel that despite Ymir being oppressed by the Mare for being an eldian, that she is a true neutral. She only takes Historia's side because Historia reminded her of herself
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>>148217557
2000 years since titans were created/the devil magic happened or whatever the fuck, I assume.
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>>148217472
Mares wanted to seize the island's natural resources for there war machine.
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>>148217574
So what who was Ymir Fritz and what was their goal or purpose and all?
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>>148217577
So BRA murdering the innocents inside the walls because innocents were being murdered inside the walls is a good thing?
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>>148217668
Ymir Fritz was an alchemist/scientist and their goal was to create a weapon to fight against the Mare who they were at war with.
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>>148217472
mare also wants to steal paradise's natural resources

mares are actually the US, eldians are the defeated germans and japanese and this shit is an allegory about post WW2 civilization
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To think the fucker kept this secret for, what? 6 years?
It must've been so hard for Isayama to keep drawing without spoiling shit. I admire the skinny fuck.
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>>148217472
Are you just ignoring everything in this chapter? The Marens told the Eldians that King Reiss was planning to wipe them out. BRA thought they were fighting for the greater good at first. And they want the Coordinate so the Eldians will no longer be oppressed.
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>>148217635
Did the original Ymir Fritz know shit was going to go down in 2000 years time then? Was this all part of his master plan?
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So, Ackermans are 100% confirmed Mares right?

This and Reiss mindwiping only works on the wall people, who are Eldians, but it doesn't work on Ackermen.
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>>148217633
>She only takes Historia's side because Historia reminded her of herself
Well and also because she fell in love with her.
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>>148217742
Ymir Fritz was a woman and apparently she did know.

And I'm going to assume she knew all this because she gained the power of a devil which is the equivalent of a God. She could see into the future and shit.
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>>148217577
the elidians include those innocent people retard
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>>148217725
I'm amazed. I did a complete 180 with my opinion of him with this chapter. There's a motherlode of potential for character development here and I can't wait to see it happen.

Who /inlovewithSnKagain/ here?
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>>148217746
Even if they're mares, Ackermans were breed to serve the royalty. And even now, they can't change that about themselves. It's in their slave blood.
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Do you think he was raped like his mother, /a/?
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>>148217742
>Was this all part of his master plan?
Wasn't Ymir Fritz in the legend a girl?
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>>148217731
If all the Eldians are dead then they'll no longer be opressed. Brilliant. Even Armin couldn't come up with a plan that cleaver.
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>>148217746
I doubt the Ackermans are the cause of anything titan related. They're simply Mares that were bred by the Eldians to become slaves to them.
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>>148217851
No. He was literally a baby and was about to starve to death while clinging to his mother's corpse.
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>>148217820
What secret? What 180 change?
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>>148217851
His mother used to whore him out for some extra cash
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All of this makes no sense what was the war or the fighting and oppressing about in the first place? How and why did it start? Discrimination?? How if there's people of dark hair and eye color and all on both sides. They're all intermixed. Makes no sense.
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>>148217742
I mean, maybe. I don't know what shit Isayama's smoking.
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>>148217807
>ymir fell in love with Historia even while knowing she was related to her
Incestfag much?
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>>148217878
The Eldians outside the walls, genius.
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>>148217742
>his
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The inside covers of all Japanese volumes have all the same image, resembling an old scroll and featuring a scene apparently set around the time the Titans first appeared. The image includes pieces of Walls Writing telling some of the lost history of mankind. The text roughly translates as follows

>People fleeing their homes due to the appearance of the Titans.

>Unable to match the overwhelming force of the Titans, humanity was forced to sail to a new world. At this time, most of humanity had been annihilated, but the majority of this was at the hands of their fellow humans.

>Those who gained passage aboard the ships were only a small fraction composed of the rich and powerful.

>The voyage was rough; about half [of the ships?] vanished without reaching the other shore.

>In the new world, great walls had previously been prepared.

>This new continent, we shall revere as sacred.

>Within these walls are the ideals of humanity.

>Within these walls, let us create a world eternally without strife.

According to this drawing, there were titans on the other continent, too. Or is that just a lie they are telling the people inside the walls?
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>>148217841
>>148217896

Where does it say they were bred? That was only mentioned what they did to the Mares 1700 years ago, it says nothing about the Ackermen or Touyou. And if Ackermen were slaves like the rest of the Eldians they would be susceptible to mind wiping.
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>>148217940
The Eldians discriminated against those who didn't possess the titan's power.
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>>148217910
That doesn't look like a baby to me. He's a young kid.

Some clients could've come by wanting to fuck Kushel and discovered she's dead so they settled for him instead. People are fucked up underground.
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>>148217940
Eldians are genocidal maniacs. Oppression is in their blood.
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>>148217945
>1700 years
>incest
You really know how genetics work, isn't it?
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>>148212717
Team Raviolli
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>>148217910
Poor baby, I would have taken him in.
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>>148217945
So far we got
>Grisha>Faye
>Kenny>Kuchel
>Frieda>Historia
>Ymir>Historia
>Manlet>a lot of imoutos

The only one who is not a degenerate is Eren, now I understand he may find Mikasa boring, but what he despise is the incest shit.
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>>148217851
Absolutely not.
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>>148217963
It's all a lie. The Eldians were the titans themselves.
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>>148218010
Poor thing looks barely weaned.
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>>148218010
Fuck off fujo.
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>>148217945
Sounds more like out of all the royal families the Reiss family was choosen by the king to pass down the coordinate and history knowledge
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>>148218076
I miss when Isayama drew decently.
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>>148218004
>>148218015
Ohhhh okay so who were the Eldians exactly?? Trying to play catch up
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>>148218076
Levi looks a lot like Ymir... what if Levi is a Fritz too?
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>>148218114
Wall people
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>>148218118
Fake King Fritz is his father.
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>>148218118
He's an Ackerman.

Having an extremely pissed off expression all the time isn't a genetic trait.
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Can't wait till the Mare develop gas chambers and nukes.
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>>148218118
I've theorized it before, but I'm not so sure now.
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>>148218114
Eldians are Ymir's people who consist of all the walled people + some oppresed Eldian society in Mare territory among whom are the warriors.
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Wait so who were the first titans then ?? Which people and how did they get that power and why?
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>>148218188
Soon.
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>>148218104
>out of all the royal families
There is only one royal family and that's the Fritz royal family. The Reiss family is a fake name used to protect the real Fritz family in case the enemy attacked, which is why they put a false king on the throne.

Historia Fritz by the way.
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>>148218106
Agreed.

>>148218118
Highly doubt it. Unless we find out who his father is and it somehow ties him to Yimir. Which again, its doubtful.

Also consider that Isayama's drawing is super hit or miss.
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>>148218118
So Ymir is his father?
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There's gotta be more Ackermans and Asians outside of the walls.
grandpa ackerman a cute. He's got Levi's features
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>>148218252
Uh, wasn't it the opposite?
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>>148218252
>There is only one royal family and that's the Fritz royal family.

>F: King Fritz fled for Paradi Island with those left from the royal family and built three walls around them.
>However not all left with King Fritz - the rest of us Eldians were abandoned in Mare.
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>mfw people tell me all Eldians don't deserve brutal deaths
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>>148217851
I sincerely hoped he was not. Poor baby.

>>148217939
Kuchel would have never done that.

>>148218034
Same here. He needed food and love.
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>>148218321
Does this mean niggers are confirmed extinct?
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>>148218252
>The Reiss family is a fake name used to protect the real Fritz family in case the enemy attacked
>King Reiss
No.
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Why did Zeke refer to him as King Reiss when the Marens referred to him as King Fritz?
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>>148218361
How does that disprove my point? It says right there that the First King is a Fritz and the Reiss family are direct descendants form him.
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>>148218321
I think they're the last. The outside world is probably apocalyptic as fuck.

People are forgetting that Uri literally said the world is ending.
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>>148218492
Zeke knows that they changed their last name to Reiss.
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>>148218504
That royal families fled with the first king. The Reiss family was one of them.
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I don't know what to believe anymore. I don't know whose side to be on. It's all just too hard.
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>>148218492
>>148218502
>that hivemind

Anyway I think this might be a confirmation that Zeke actually visited the walls before and brought intel back with him, but this was before 3DMG was invented.
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>>148218502
Zeke probably knew he changed his last name.
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>>148218527
Poor Uri just wanted the Marens and Eldians to be friends.
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>>148218260
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>>148218557
It says King Fritz and the rest of the royal family. Only one royal family. And that he, King Fritz, built the walls.
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>>148218577
Or BR just told him when they shared all their intel with the Marens.
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>Asume shit about shit he knows shit about.
>Claims he can't be fooled by anyone because he's a true Eldian, but is easily manipulated into joining a race glorifying group, and believes blindly on what a mysterious guy he has never as much as seen the face says about anything.
>Plans on genociding the entire world because of what four random guys did.
>Turns out his own five years old son to heartless training and speechless monstrosity, brainwashing him into thinking the whole world is evil and he should help him into cleansing them.
Isayama is making it hard to like the wall faction.
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>>148218577
>Anyway I think this might be a confirmation that Zeke actually visited the walls before
If he was already spying on them to find out infos he could have just taken the coordinate back then himself. So that's unlikely.
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>>148218429
Beginning to feel broody again here, going to end up having a false pregnancy at this point.
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>>148218527
Uri doesn't know shit, he hasn't been to Mare in forever.
Also, Ymir said there was hope inside of the walls as long as Eren had the coordinate.
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It's not possible for King Reiss and King Fritz to be different person.
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>>148218609
So you think just maybe two people from the same family left and repopulated the walls. I doubt that.
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>>148218577
BR were done spying around and likely told him everything, though.
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>>148218715
No I'm saying that there is only one royal family. Those who tagged along were the rest of Eldian's people.
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>>148218715
Well it has been almost 2000 years
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>>148218650
I'm broody 24/7 these days. Cute baby Shingekis everywhere and handsome men too.
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>>148218634
>wall faction.
You are not deceiving us, you filthy Mare, you are wrong at trying to get the Coordinate to keep your fuel wars.
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>>148218741
Faye said only king fritz and what was left of the royals left. The rest was left behind.
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The Maren main plan was to enter Paradi and take the resources off without the Eldian ever knowing. Something must have happened for them to change their minds.
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>>148218724
The Reiss were discovered in the coup as the true royals, by then BR were long gone, but maybe Zeke infiltrated then too.
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>>148218777
I want to adopt him and feed him properly.
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>>148218741
I think King Fritz and some nobles and rich people fled and the rest of the Eldians were lef behind yes.
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>>148218807
Excuse me triggered Eldian. *All of humanity.
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>>148218634
The only good guys are BRA and the Eldians living in the ghettos.
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>>148218841
It breaks my heart to see him so sad and hungry. Poor little baby Levi. He deserved a much happier life.
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Eren proves the Mare were right.
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>>148218878
Faye pretty much said just King Fritz and royals fled.
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>>148218572
Both sides have done evil things, and now they're on the brink of another all out war
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>>148218603
Fucking KEK.
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>>148218940
Faye or Daina?
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>>148218940
I think it's more like they exilated the Eldian who sympatized with the enslaved Maren.
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>>148218940
And ten million collosals.
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>>148218917
Chapter 69 broke my heart more than anything else, poor kid :(.
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>>148218917
He's gonna have a happier life alright
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Was Grisha already a shifter when he got exiled?
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>>148218427
I don't think all Eldians deserve brutal deaths, but the retarded Reiss family, Fritz family, all the nobles, and the Wall Cult certainly do
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The Fritz royal family that were left behind wanted to restore the glory of the Eldian and that caused almost all of them to be wipde out, except for Danna Fritz who probably lived in the shadows, always hiding from the government.

I'm assuming Ymir was "sent to heaven" along with the rest of her family.
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>>148218940
I think it was Faye.
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>>148219035
His mother just wanted him to be well looked after and happy too. He was so loved.

>>148219042
I really hope this happens next chapter because it would make me so happy. The rest of the manga is just Hanji, Levi and their beautiful babies.
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>>148219047
>implying the Mares would give one of their precious shifter slots away to a confirmed Eldian rebel/Mare hater
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>>148219077
Was meant for >>148219000
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>Eren's got two shifters inside of him
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>>148218427
Only the Eldians in the walls deserve brutal deaths.
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>>148219073
This makes sense. So the titan saying Ymir-sama was because he recognized Ymir.
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>>148218572
SL, BRA, walled people are all inncoent

they are basically just doing what they were told to do, meanwhile grisha and zeke are genocidal maniacs desu
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>>148219112
I don't think Levi/Hange will end up being a thing. And if it does, it'll be well and truly after the war before Levi decides he wants a family.

I'm just sad Levi/Eren will never be canon, don't mind me.
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>>148218917
Going to end up letting down at this point too
And I used to say I didn't want kids
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>>148218944
Any idea why the eldians stopped fighting and suddenly retreated? and when are we going to learn why the Ackerman's are immune to the coordinate
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>>148219186
Sieg is the same as BRA though.
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>>148219186
Only BRA and the Eldians under Mare rule are innocent.
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>>148219204
I don't think it will be a thing either but there's no harm in hoping. They would both be excellent parents.

>>148219208
Same here but baby Shingekis really do play with my hormones.
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>>148219112
I'll look for magic spells to twist Isayama's will and make this happen.
>>148219204
I'm sorry about your ship, anon.
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>>148219204
>Levi/Eren
Go back to tumblr, whale.
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>>148219216
The FK didn't want to fight anymore.
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>>148219114
Grisha had the secret Owl agents. It would be too convenient for him to just luck out and grab another shifter to eat like that.
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>>148218940

>G: [There were people from the Royal Family who rejected the idea of fleeing to the island at the end of the Titan, and who stayed on this continent. She was their only remaining descendant.
>only remaining descendant
I think this also implies Royal family doesn't just mean Fritz.
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>>148219260
The Fritz under Mare rule weren't that innocent. They wanted to restore the glory of their people.
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>>148219260
What makes you say the wall people aren't innocent. Their leaders were corrupt, but the people themselves literally didn't do anything wrong.
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>>148219266
Baby Shingekis are too perfect compared to the real thing unfortunately. But yes my hormones are haywire.
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>>148219287
Why? Did they feel guilty? Where they getting their asses kicked when they had big ass Titans on their side? Something isn't right/there's more than we know
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>>148219216
But they got to a king that understood the amount of evil his people did. But instead of apologizing he hide himself on a safe space leaving most of his ones behind and cleasing the people he took with him once in a while.
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>>148219140
Nah it's much more if you go by that logic.
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>>148219360
You could say the exact same thing about the Mare.
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>>148219300
Calling it now, the owl insider is the guard that stayed with him watching the blimp when Grisha was a kid.
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>>148219266
Nah I feel you, it's the most realistic out of them all.

>>148219283
It's okay, I knew it from the start.

>>148219284
Tumblr is a shithole, I'm not going there.
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>>148219435
The Mare people knew what was going on. They were complacent in allowing the abuse of Eldians.
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>>148219377
Baby Eren is precious.
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Why didn't the Mare people just become warriors themselves? Why would they entrust the mission to Ymir's people? And why would they only pick children to do the job? I'm not getting it.
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>>148219455
Why do you think Grisha passed the coordinate to Eren instead of accomplishing his goals himself?
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>>148219204
I think Levi will survive but will end up alone. Hange alone or with Keith.
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>>148219465
Good to know you knew it from the beggning but what on Earth made you ship those two?
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>>148219382
Guilt is probably the cause, and tiredness of fighting and killing, repeating the cycle of hate. So clean slate all the way.
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>>148219561
>Keith
stop forcing this meme
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>>148219522
Because they are a good match for the power of the seven Titans.
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>>148219520
At least that retard didn't sell his parents to the nazis
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>>148219266
Do you think there will be a couple or two at the end of the manga Mrs. Smith?
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>>148219561
If Levi survives he'll be the only adult to do so.

>>148219563
It's hot. Even if Eren is 15.
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>>148219520
Carla deserved better. Her husband was a radical idiot and Keith was full of edge.
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>>148217528
>>148217528
>>148217528
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It's pretty disgusting so many of you think it's okay for innocents to die because their ancestors were shit.
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>>148215921
The original would have been a shifter from the start.
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>>148219534
That is a mystery.
Maybe it will be explained further next chapter, as he wanted to make something of his first kid too.
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>>148219649
Sasha/Connie is the only ship that will end up canon if anything.
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>>148219522
Because Mares are normalfags who can't shift.
Only Ymir's descendants are able to shift at all.
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>>148219601
Why not? She loved him.
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>>148219667
Grisha probably had a bigger dick though.
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>>148219694
Is just an underage reaction, like how many anons feel they need to take a side.
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>>148219728
Got it. Thanks anon. Is there a special reason why they had to be young children, though?
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>>148219774
Crush is not the same as love. Hange didn't even mention it, she got teased by one of her comrades. Hange's not proud about it. I've told you this before, she despises the guy.
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>>148219714
I don't think Sasha will survive or Connie.
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>>148219893
They're so normal they have a chance.
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>>148219888
I don't think she despises the man and she is a mature woman so it wasn't just a crush. If nothing happens, Hange will end up alone. Same with Levi.
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>>148219888
>>148219959
>Hange
>she

Try again, anon.
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>>148219774
You are not going o make friedns with that way of thinking.
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>>148219959
>I don't think she despises the man
She does. You should read chapter 71 again.
>and she is a mature woman so it wasn't just a crush.
She wasn't always like this, remember? she probably crushed on him while she was still in the training corps.
>Hange will end up alone.
Anything is better than with that cuck Keith.
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>>148216789
>I think we're being fucked with because the history Grisha tells in his diary obviously isn't the 100% truthful history.

Grisha comes off pretty bad even though he's telling the story so we can assume that what we're seeing is true.
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>>148219694
this desu

thinking the current elidians or current mares need to all die is like saying that modern white americans need to die for slavery or modern europeans need to die for colonialism
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>>148219947
I don't know. I think Sasha is going to die. Jean has a chance and he will probably end up with Hitch or a new girl.
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>>148217851
>>148217851
If it wasn't for best Ackerman aka Kenny, manlet would have starved to death and stayed with his whore mom's corpse
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>>148220127
Kenny saved humanity by saving Levi.

Of course, humanity was fucked either way.
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>>148220035
I don't need faggots as friends.

>>148220067
We don't know how she was so I won't say anything. She had a crush on Keith and that's all.
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>>148219601
Not him but why else would Isayama mention her crush on him for no reason? It was so random and seemingly pointless unless you assume it was Isayama dropping a hint in advance.
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>>148218777
My god that is an adorable Levi.

>>148218917
He will survive and open up his tea shop.
I hope ;__;
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>>148220221
>We don't know how she was so I won't say anything.
She was like Eren. Remember her flashback and what prompted her to start research.
>She had a crush on Keith and that's all.
She's over it and believes the guy is a selfish coward and that's all.
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>>148220224
I really doubt it meant anything. Just that even Hange can make mistakes.
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>>148220224

Trolling with the gender shit
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>>148220281
That's a weird way of showing Hanji can make mistakes. I don't like the thought of them together either but that information seems completely pointless and random otherwise.
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>>148220264
If you think she despises the man she once loved, that's your deal. But I think she will end up alone anyway.
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>>148220382
It shows people can change? Hange was immature and had a crush on Keith initially and people poked fun at them for it, that's it. Hange's reaction to him now is that he's an ass.
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>>148220224
It means something if we consider Keith felt like trash but there was someone who liked him the way he was.
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>>148220437
Being young and having a crush =/= being in love.

Also Hange isn't a she, so that makes anything you're saying invalid anyway.
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>>148220437
She had a crush on him, that's all. And you can tell she hates him by reading chapter. You should do it again.

>>148220382
Why would Isayama mention Bert's extreme sleeping positions?

>>148220508
Not Hange nor anybody knew what Keith was feeling. She could've have liked him for the way he was but for what he represented, maybe the headbutts made her stupid for a while.
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>>148220508
I haven't thought of that. That's an interesting way to look at it.
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>>148220512
Yeah, it's not the same but I kind of like the idea of Hange with a serious and depressed man. Completely opposites.
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>>148220451
>Them
KYS. Hans is either a man or a woman, not both.
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>>148220595
I mean..... there is Levi.
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>>148220595
If you want to go for the completely opposites route then LH is for you. :^)
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>>148220624
Hange's canonically non-binary, I don't make the rules.

Also there's nothing about being both, it could be neither.
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>>148220581
Hange liked him even if his plans and formations were trash and useful. She liked him the way he was but he left without saying a word. Hate is a deep word so I would say she is disappointed.
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>>148220677
>Hange's canonically non-binary
Not true. Hange's got a gender, it's up to you to interpret it, but the hints she's a girl are everywhere. And Isayama did say he'd reveal it eventually.
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>>148220677
Tumblr pls leave. Isayama said you can see her as male or female when he got butthurt about a fan questioning her gender. She's not "non-binary" or whatever made up gender you're talking about. It's only acceptable to see her as male or female, but you have to be blind to think she's male.
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>>148220629
>>148220670
Nothing against them but I don't like it.
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>>148220742
Non-binary is a gender? Hange's pronouns are they/them anyway, Hange's not a she.

Even the official translations use they, so fuck off.

I don't honestly care either way but at least be accurate about it.
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>>148219520
He's adorable but also probably the brattiest shingeki kid.
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>>148220738
>Hange liked him even if his plans and formations were trash and useful
So? having a crush on someone makes you overlook how stupid they can be. Not anymore though, as Hange's over him.
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>>148220792
I thought if anything Hange was meant to be gender ambiguous?

I mean yeah, biologically Hange's a woman and I'm not arguing that, but that doesn't mean shit.
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>>148220836
>Hange's pronouns are they/them anyway,
Not true. Hange always refers to herself as watashi, like 90% of the cast.
>Even the official translations use they, so fuck off.
Not true. They used "she" for a while, then reprinted volumes omitting most pronouns because Isayama is a hack and can't into english.
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>>148220859
>as Hange's over him
That's what other shippers would say but it's ok. I like the idea of them together anyway.
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>>148220803
Neither do I, it's just more likely than Hange/Keith.

Keith will probably die anyway.
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>>148220836
Japanese doesn't use pronouns the same way English does. Most of the time, pronouns are ambiguous for all the characters. That's why they had to change it to they/them so people can see her as male or female, not both or neither. You're the one not being accurate here.
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>>148220914
>but that doesn't mean shit.
Hange is a girl who likes old men and enjoys knitting.
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>>148220974
>"they/them"
Kodansha never used those for Hange in the official english translation.
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>>148220922
私 doesn't mean shit, since Erwin uses it and last time I checked he was a dude. "Watashi" can be gender-neutral.

I thought they reprinted the volumes because they realised they were using the wrong pronouns but whatever.
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>>148220959
It's true. Read chapter 71 again.
>I like the idea of them together anyway.
Good for you.
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>>148221026
I thought they did though?

>>148220974
I'm aware of that, I just think Hange is meant to be gender ambiguous and that's why the pronouns are they/them and not she/her. I personally see them as female but that's not canon.
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>>148221026
I could have swore there was one instance where they had to change her pronoun. I remember reading about it.
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>>148220984
How old is Keith?
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>>148221122
She's not, though. Isayama said his fans are free to see her as male or female. Only "she" or "him" pronouns are correct.
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>>148221184
There's the scene where Hange is introduced that uses pronouns obviously.

It's after Eren is rescued by the SL and the following happens:
Levi: Yeah just be careful of them.
Eren: Who?
Levi: THEM.
>Hange enters

I can't think of any others.
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>>148221257
Except the official pronouns are they. I'm guessing Isayama said something like 女でも男でもいい or "female or male is fine", but I'd interpret that as "anything goes".
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>>148220962
>more likely than Hange/Keith.
Because they are the only veterans? I don't think it will happen.
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>>148221369
I don't think it will either, but they're definitely closer than Hange/Keith.
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>>148221028
You're an idiot. What I'm saying is that the use of watashi doesn't reveal her gender.
>I thought they reprinted the volumes because they realised they were using the wrong pronouns but whatever.

They did it because Isayama wanted them to keep her gender a secret. So they ommitted pronous and use her name instead.

>>148221122
Show me where. You can't, because It never happened. She only got called her by Levi once, and that's all.

>I personally see them as female but that's not canon.
You really think they'd be casual about a man having a crush on another man? Hange is clearly a woman in everyone's eyes.
Anyways, if you have any doubts see pic related. She being a woman in the anime is proof enough.

>>148221261
Link to that? as far as I know, Levi said her.
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>>148221330
And he said he'd reveal her gender eventually during his Q&A in 2014.
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>>148221330
Like I said, pronouns are vague in Japanese. English replies on pronouns too heavily so they can't skip over them like they do in Japanese, They had to translate it that way so the fans can decide the gender for themselves. That doesn't mean she's non-binary though. Isayama wants fans to think of Hanji as either male or female, not both or neither.
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>>148221518
>Isayama wants fans to think of Hanji as either male or female, not both or neither.
He's not doing a good job. Boobs alone means she's a woman. She might look flat sometimes, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have them.
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>>148221409
>They did it because Isayama wanted them to keep her gender a secret. So they ommitted pronous and use her name instead.

I didn't think Hange's gender was a secret.

>Show me where. You can't, because It never happened. She only got called her by Levi once, and that's all.
I thought it was more than once.

>You really think they'd be casual about a man having a crush on another man? Hange is clearly a woman in everyone's eyes.
Anyways, if you have any doubts see pic related. She being a woman in the anime is proof enough.
Did you forget the scene where Reiner jokes about not being interested in girls and Ymir's retort is that she's not interested in boys?

I don't see how the picture you posted is related. And how is Hange canonically female in the anime? Was it officially stated somewhere?

>Link to that? as far as I know, Levi said her.
I don't have the Kodansha translations so I can't be sure, but that's the one scene I can think of where they would've had to change pronouns.

I see Hange as female, but they are drawn more ambiguous than the other female characters to me. Like you, I agree that Hange's seen as a woman by the others, but that doesn't mean shit. Pronouns are still they, and that's my main point.
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>>148221518
I always thought because of the whole they/them thing that Hange was meant to be non-binary. Or at least that's what I remember reading forever ago.

>>148221634
Enjoy being a transphobe, I guess.
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>>148221642
>Pronouns are still they, and that's my main point.
They aren't. Seriously, read the manga and you won't find anything.

Also, although there's serious lack of pronouns for Hange in the game, she's still referred to as a woman
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>>148221704
Neck yourself dumblr whore.
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>>148221744
I wouldn't take something in the game as being canon.
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>>148221634
I think she's a woman too. I'm just trying to prove that Hanji isn't non-binary or whatever.

>>148221704
That doesn't make them a transphone, dumblr. She was a woman all along until Isayama got butthurt and said you can see her as male or female. You're the only one misgendering Hanji here.
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>>148221788
They could be manboobs.
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>>148221704
>Or at least that's what I remember reading forever ago.
In a long ass tumblr post, I suppose.
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>>148221840
She's slender, so, no manboobs.
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>>148221834
You can't even spell their name properly, eat a dick.

They = gender ambiguous. Hange's gender is a secret. Therefore they is more correct.
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>>148221843
I can't remember where, honestly.

Hange's 99% likely to be female, I'm not arguing that. Isayama's response read more to me as being "yeah Hange's whatever you want Hange to be now until I say Hange's actual gender now fuck off".

I personally don't think she is correct, that's all.
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>>148221798
Then why would you take English translations as canon? Japanese is the only official source and in the raws everyone's pronouns are ambiguous unless stating the gender is relevant.

>>148221899
You're obviously new. A lot of people still call her Hanji here. You can fuck off back to tumblr now.
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