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>small height >flat chested >breast envy >long hair

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>small height
>flat chested
>breast envy
>long hair
>proud and bossy nature
>tsundere
>clingy and possessive if in a relationship

Why are they so perfect /a/?
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>>148126484
Louise is simply moe.
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Why are you such a newfag?
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Remarkably, OP has listed traits in perfect order of most endearing to least endearing.
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>>148126484
>small height
>flat chested
>breast envy
>long hair
>proud and bossy nature
>tsundere
>clingy and possessive if in a relationship
>Why are they so perfect
Disgusting Shit Crap Cancer taste
louise fags are tho worst
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Tsundere is always, automatically and inherently, worst girl.
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>>148126484
910. Would give 10/10 if there was fang.
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>>148126484
>dfc petite tsundere
Best girl every time. Better with twintails though.
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>>148126964
#1
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So Louise thread again?
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>he never got to finish it
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>>148126484
>clingy and possessive if in a relationship

I love that.
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>>148126964
Huh. I never compared Shana to other tsunderes, but now that I stop and think she is pretty great.
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>>148126964
>ESL-kun
Friendly reminder to report this cancerous shitposter.
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>>148127232
Last volume is actually coming out in 4 months.
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>>148127267
Why would I do that? He's made an excellent point. Louise-fags are the worst scum.
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>Abusive
>Arrogant
>Egocentric
>Bitch in hear
>Bad small flat personality
>Responable of the death of Gales
>Sadistic
>Scoundrel
>Unbearable
>Useless lady is distress
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>>148126964
>Shana = Louise > Taiga > Aria > Nagi
Fixed your pleb taste. They're all good regardless.
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>>148127313
>defending ESL-kun and his shit taste
You're the worst.
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>>148126964
All tsunRies > poop > Yui > Houki
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>>148126484
Bantering dere dere > abusive tsundere
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>>148127313
>Why would I do that? He's made an excellent point. Louise-fags are the worst scum.
TURN DOWN FOR WHAT!!
>>148127267
You wold be report and deport
Stupid Idiot Autist Retarded Shitty
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>>148127211
I wonder where the anon making BD stitches is at.
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>>148127451
Top Tier:
Yui Shana Houki Nagi Arya
Shit Tier:
poop > louise
>>148127371
Ironic Ignorant
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>>148127451
Great taste.
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>>148126484
That's almost like Azusa except with less clingy.
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>>148127457
But Louise turns dere dere if you obey and spoil her, she knows how to praise what belongs to her.
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>>148126484
>>148126805
>>148127050
>>148127211
>>148127485
Hinagiku Is The Best Pink Haired Flat Tsundere
She literally is the salvation of that archetype.

louise nana eco and mine are shit and cancer
Hinagiku is a Underrated Treasure and a Cure
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>>148127371
>Aria always gets ignored
Come on, Japan.
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>>148127591
>>148127652
Shit Cancer Taste
Subnormal
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>>148127711
So much tsun in a single image, I can't contain my dick
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>>148127599
huh, and yet they are two completely different characters
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>>148127457
Enbi is pretty abusive in the has-the-murderous-aura-when-she-gets-pissed kind of way though. Louise is also plenty dere with a haughty streak after she warmed up.
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>>148127652
Can't handle the bantz, weak dere, shit taste in men. I'll take a pass.
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>>148127797
Tsun-tsun, dere-dere, kicking ass incoming.
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>>148126964
Came in to say Shana a best
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>>148127821
Yeah, but her jealousy moments remain in the cutesy sulky kind of way, even the Detective agrees. She never gets anywhere near the domestic physical abuse level Louise does.
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>>148127858
>you will never be in a harem with these four totally in love with you

If only I could have a wish granted.
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>>148127832
>do all sorts of groping and lewd ecchi things in bed in increasing intervals that's proportional to dere
>almost went full penetration
How is that weak? She's weak to teasing and gets riled up though, but that's makes her cute.
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>>148127952
>sulky
That's barely different from Louise. The only difference is Enbi is in the middle of the spectrum and Louise is near the end of the spectrum for S/M appeal and abuse
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>>148127711
>neko-maid Louise
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>>148127962
>being violent is cute
I think you're a hard M anon. Or gay.
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Be honest. Left or right?

Right looks like breast cancer or something
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>>148127962
Too hit or miss, Enbi's been trying to have the Detective's child for years. Unfortunately for her he's a cop and she's underage, at least her family (and a couple particularly high ranking people in the police force) consent.
>>148128074
I'll admit it's been years since I watched or read anything from ZnT and I also heard the anime ramped up the violence, but Louise went far past mere "sulky".
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>>148128138
>2D girls being violent in an adorable and harmless manner that's generally not serious
You must be new to anime.
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>>148128138
Do you think emotionless, autistic, chuuni, crazy, stalker, haughty, bitchy, or baka traits aren't cute too?
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>>148128212
Listen, you just need to pray the gay away. God can help you.
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>>148128282
It's all about execution. Any of those can be cute as fuck or completely annoying.
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How do we suppress her tsun?
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>>148128427
Then why are you treating like it's inherently bad?
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>>148128212
The violent tsun gets old real fast, once in a while it's fine but when it's the defining action it gets annoying quick.
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I prefer purehearted little big sisters.
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Some people can't separate reality from fictional fantasy. It's amazing how almost every fetish that's popular would not be moe and appealing when transferred to 3D reality, yet some people are selective at only the things that they hate by using real life comparisons to rationalize their hate.
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>>148128479
Opinion, but still what you describe is rare and usually reserved for tsundere in purely comedy series where gags are maintained because they're jokes it and of itself. Even Louise isn't like that. She's a character first and foremost.

>>148128544
True in so many ways.
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>>148128477
Context is important.

Are you familiar with Louise? I feel like you aren't because my point was obvious.
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LOUISE IS BEST GIRL SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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>>148128544
Literally defending shit taste, as in scat.
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>>148128463
Rape + Mindbreak (+ Drugs)
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>>148128752
And intense anal sex?
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>>148128463
Bring out her inner Yan
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>>148128700
They are and if you were familiar with Louise then you'd surely say her slapstick abuse is cute, just like many other abusive tsundere with similar degree and depth seeped in adorable moe characteristics can't be misinterpreted as anything but childish and basic tsun behavior.
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>>148128687
>Even Louise isn't like that.
I have bad news for you anon...
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>>148128751
>no agrument
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>mfw no cute love story between proud flat short tsundere and a kind understanding mc-kun in which they get together early on without harem/misunderstandings/love triangle bullshit
>ever
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>>148128826
She isn't. Maybe you should watch and read all of the series before coming up with your own incomplete conclusions.
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>>148128810
Oh dear, I think it's terminal. Next you're going to say you don't like bros being bros and getting shit done away from the girls.
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>>148128826
>Chitoge reaction
I smell irony.
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>>148128880
Let me elaborate then. Just because something is shit in 3d doesn't mean it becomes not shit just because it's 2d.
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>>148128923
>implying
Completely non sequitur.
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>>148128810
The slapstick was old 2 episodes in and only became more grating over time. The attempts at comedy fell flat at every point.

I also can't really abide MC Beta-kun either. Looking back, I just hate every character in ZnT so much. They're all such insufferable fuckwits.
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>>148128923
That's a retarded comparison. How is that even the same thing?
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>>148128881
We are not ready for that, it would be just too sweet and diabetus inducing for us to handle.

Oh, watch Gosick, it is kinda like that but not that perfect.
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>>148128972

>>148128282
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>>148128975
A bit, but the point stands that the abusive tsundere thing has been shit for a long time. Shana at least kept it to a fairly reasonable leve with just a punch or twol; that's when it was cute. Plus, Shana progressively toned down her tsun as she got more and more dere. Louise continued to be abusive throughout the series. Granted, I'll concede that I didn't read much of the LN so if you're going based on that perhaps she was much more reasonable there. Anime Louise was irredeemable though.
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>>148128984
>2 episodes in
Your tolerance level must be set super low and with no room for amusement. Seriously, how can you enjoy anime at all given that? You hate every character, so that kind of reinforces my point.
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>>148127686
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>>148129040
In due moderation, but all of the other traits are much more workable, if you will. I can find those traits attractive for a larger part of the overall character than the abusiveness. Maybe it's just that it became so common I got sick of it, but if I did find any good in it, it's long been lost.
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I feel sorry for people who takes things like tsundere lashing out physically that aren't supposed be taken seriously in the first place. Makes me wonder what else do they take super seriously.
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>>148129213
So the problem isn't the concept itself, but it's just you.
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>>148129103
I like tsunderes. I like lots of chinese cartoons(incuding a lot that /a/ would call shit). Toradora is in my top 10. I love Nisekoi. Shana is pretty based.

ZnT is not good.
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>>148129084
>It's shit because I don't like it
Okay.
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>>148129279
>I love Nisekoi
>ZnT is not good.
Okay, then.
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>>148129256
Can't be just me if other people were agreeing. Let's just finish this up as different tastes I guess. I still can't see what's cute or funny in her though.
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>>148129220
It's not about seriousness. The original statement was that it's cute. It isn't. The gap moe is what makes the tsundere cute, which is exactly what Louise lacks.

Also, finding something not funny doesn't mean it was taken too seriously. It just means it wasn't funny.

This is why I hate Louise-fags.
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>>148128881
Don't remind me.
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>>148129084
Are you the same guy who got tired from two episodes 2? There's no way you saw past season 1, and much less 1/6 of the LNs. It's like watching Toradora and dropping after episode 3.
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>>148129306
>It's not shit because I like it.
That argument works both ways.
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>>148129380
>gap moe
>Louise lacking
You're factually wrong.
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>>148128881
I mean there was Rakudai, but Stella can't really be called flat.
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>>148129402
No, I watched the first three seasons a long time ago, never finished the fourth when it came out. The tsun was wearing thin on me in the second season, and it got unbearable in the third. That was also probably my first tsundere series, so the archetype was still fresh.
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>>148129415
>entire concept is literally based and cut from the same moe clothe like all those other concepts that are cute in 2D, but wouldn't be cute in 3D
Just admit you don't like it. It's fine if you don't like it, but don't be a retard.
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>>148127211

I want to wreck that pussy and never take responsibility
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>>148129380
The feeling is mutual, Louise-hater. I bet you hate Kirino too and thinks she isn't cute despite the whole premise is that she is cute. Even those who don't like her can at least see t hat.
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>>148129220
>her cake sister

I loved her, she is basically Louise, but cake.
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>>148129220
>wonder what else do they take super seriously.
Girls being SLUTS.
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>>148129596
ara ara~ sister is better. You can keep turbo-bitch.
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>>148129530
I thought me not liking it was obvious. The key word here is "progression". Shana progressed from mostly tsun to mostly dere. That's the key to a good tsundere, at least in my book. If memory serves Louise kept the same even of tsun and dere, with an over the top reaction that wore on me due to repetition. Though thinking on it I didn't care much for most other tsunderes. Hinagiku was good, but I didn't like most of the others unless they kept the tsun real soft.
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>>148129641
More likely than you think.
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>>148129589
Kirino is fine. However, my heart will always belong to Kuroneko. I would accept Kirino as a consolation prize though.
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>>148129643
>turbo-bitch
>implying she isn't at least 3 times sweeter in the inside

She just needs a husband, ara ara one is cute too.
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>>148129694
This.
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>>148129681
I don't care if you like it or not. The point was you recognizing that the concept is moe. You don't like to have every moe, but you can't deny that it isn't moe still.
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>>148129681
Your memory is really bad or you're lying. I find it hard to belive a person with a functioning brain wouldn't remember blatant changes and decreases of tsun, which is inversely proportional to increases of dere and ecchi intimacy.

>>148129694
>Kirino is fine
Explain yourself.
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I don't even like TsunRies, they just do inhuman things to my dick.
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>>148129852
If you insist, I just don't see the appeal of the abuse, soft tsun is far more moe.
>>148129932
It's been what, probably 5 or 6 years since I watched s3 I think? I dropped s4 so quickly I can't remember anything about it. I have heard that they really butchered the content of s3 though, so that might have something to do with it. Either way, yeah, I don't remember much, I just remember having a negative view of the series. She was still casting explosion when provoked right?
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>>148130067
She more or less stopped casting explosion in S3. She still gets upset and reacts when Saito is being and idiot and all that though. In S4, she's already all dere, but Saito and Louise have lover spat drama and that has nothing to do with being tsun, but they fight like a real married coupled because of difference in belief.
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>>148130307
I could have swore she was still keeping up the shit, but it might have started blurring together. Come to think of it the MC certainly wasn't helping the tsun with his own bullshit in the third season was he, that might be part of the reason.
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>>148130397
I went to check just for you. Well, more or less was apt. She did cast it twice, one in ep.1 and on in ep.5 , with one latter done off-screen and was just a small explosion instead of a regular one. Nevertheless, she stopped as the story pressed and eventually altogether in S4.
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>>148130765
I see. My memory for the series is starting to come back a little and I'm remembering that pretty much every character was absolutely terrible in s3. What I remember from s4 wasn't any better. Still, I can't say I see the appeal in her, but Saito was at fault as well later on with his shit making it worse.
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>>148130981

Thanks for the fap
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>>148130981
I-I don't dislike it.
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>>148126484
My waifu is:
>average height
>huge chested
>confident in her breasts
>very long hair
>kind and polite
>deredere
>not clingy or possessive

This is what's perfection for me.
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>>148127652
This.

The only reason why she continues to be aggressive and physically violent throughout the series is because Saito just sits by and let half a dozen women shove their tits in his face on a daily basis.
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>>148128463
I mean, as long as you're not an unfaithful asshole who insults her body, you should be fine.
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>>148128194
In the anime Louise gets violent whenever she gets mildly irritated. In the light novel she only gets violent when Saito is cheating on her which is understandable. There was one exception I remember where she kicked him in the balls because he tried to stop her from gambling.
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>>148126484
>all those
Walking netorare machine
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>>148132233
Yeah, we all saw how clingy she got after the boat scene, the angry tsundere was tamed and glued to him until she discovered what he had done to the slutty maid, Saito is trash and deserves it.
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>>148128088
Shit Crap taste canceronic
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>>148128463
Slut Crap Shitty and Murder
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>>148128752
Rape + Mindbreak (+ Drugs) in louise
Mad man : I like it
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>>148129589
>the whole premise is that she is cute
You do realize that cuteness is subjective, right?
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>>148132561
Louise was made for huge cocks to pound her unwilling holes until she break and crazes nothing but dick.
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>>148127652
>>148132233
Hindsight. Louise has a masochist side and a secret desire for Saito to push her down and do ecchi sketchy things to her. She often demands to make it up to her by doing just that. Louise could easily be very docile and on the receiving end if you know how to push her buttons and not be unfruitful to her. It only takes common sense. In return, Louise will treat you right and love you tenderly, albeit with a noble's pride and playful haughtiness that's to her own.
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>>148129186
From a poster of the autist blonde
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>>148132451
>>148132513
>ESLfag is back
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>>148129694
You Bastard Sonuvabitch
kirino A SHIT
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>>148129220
if a girl bitches you out and you crawl back into your comfy zone to watch some anime and the first thing you see is louise being a cunt
reeee is the only reasonable response
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>>148132613
>It only takes common sense

I remember this one scene in the LNs, where Saito decides to insult Louise's breasts while they're in the middle of a make out session.

Honestly I'm surprised Saito has the mental ability to dress himself in the morning.
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>>148132145
Hinagiku is The Best
louise is just a table of crap, shit and cancer
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>>148132767
>insult
He just mentioned that they were small.
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>>148132792
He was deliberately trying to get Louise to hit him, because he was worried that it was "all a dream".
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>>148132657
Stupid Idiot Autist Retard shitty also a gringross aMoron Yankeshitty
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>shitposting and spreading his troll taste using one of my all-time most favorite tsundere
How do we kill ESL-kun?
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>>148132838
>shitposting and spreading his troll taste using one of my all-time most favorite tsundere
How do we kill ESL-kun?
stop of being a Stupid Idiot Autsit Retarded shitty also a ignorant hypocrite fiend hater in my Tasteful quality
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>>148132838
The same way people deal with him in other days. Report and hope mods/janitors are around.
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>>148129596
Gusto de porquería, mierda y de cancer
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>>148132825
Only because of how rare it is for her to show him affection.
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>>148133538
Vai se foder seu mexicano de merda. She is cute, CUTE!

>>148132613
>you will never get to do everything right with her
>you will never get to break her tsun by being good to her and knowing her well
>"I-I am not l-letting you do this to me because I have feelings for you... I-I am part of the n-nobility and we know h-how to praise g-good behavior"
>"I am honored my princess..." as you proceed to lick her pussy and asshole clean

Must taste like cherry
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>>148134222
>Vai se foder seu mexicano de merda. She is cute, Cute
Terrible idioma en portugues cerdo amerricano
A uno le da ganas de burlarse del fanbase cancerigeno de mierda de louise por los que son pero no son graciosos dan ganas de hacerles bullying
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>>148127176
YES
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