http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4 tol3j_sangatsu-no-lion-p

>>147380982
Animation doesn't look so good, but at least the background art is good and aren't the usual ugly CG shit from Shaft.

>>147380982
Oh, that looks better than the last preview.
Fall is going to be nice.

>>147380982
Why Shaft can into faithful source designs adaptation while Kyoani can't?

Art style looks very nice, this may actually be good.

Visuals are stunning.

Shinbou's visual trademarks work extremely well here.

Looks like every other low budget shit show when shaft can't hide it with powerpoints and their other visual gimmicks

>>147380982
it doesn't look good. hope it flops

>>147381550
> a mainstream group Bump chicken doing both the OP and ED
>airing on a Mainstream channel
>flopping
kek


https://my.mixtape.moe/edlgya.mp4

>>147381278
just like Zaregoto right? Why are shaftfags so deluded?

>>147380982
>Kizu flops while KnK is performing on par with Keion movie
>Sangatsu airs on the lowest timeslot on the least watched channel in Japan
>Hibike preorders already passing the sales of Sangatsu
How will SHAFT ever recover?

Already shitposters and studiowars. I think I will avoid /a/ for this fall.

>>147381748
>implying you can leave
LUL
U
L

>>147381748
butthurt shaftfag spotted

>Both Shinkai and Shinbo are making mainstream hits
This is a good year.

New translated chapters when? I thought they were gonna move to mag scans.

>>147381701
Honey and clover sold good and Sangatsu will too.

>>147381826
I barely use /a/ anyways. Twitter and the sakuga cartel are far more entertaining and actually knowledgeable

>>147381921
It doesn't need to sell. It will get a sequel just by being on NHK.

That shot of them trying to animate the light bouncing off the water onto his face is so bad.

>>147381930
>sakuga cartel
Those circlejerking fags know jack shit.

>>147381998
It's 22 episodes anyway.

>>147382023
Knows more than a bunch of shitposters. Pretty sure everyone here gets their info from them anyways.

>>147382105
kraker and iborek shitpost on /a/

>>147382094
Going to be 44 hopefully.

>>147382005
It's Shaft. What did you expect?

>>147381844
No one is butthurt. But whenever we have any anime, here on /a/ shtposters flood the board talking about studios. This is getting worse than mal. Luckily the few normal people here don't partake in the shitty baits.

Who is a fan of 1 studio only? Im a fan of anime as a whole. So im a butthurt animefag.

>>147381748
Every Shaft show ever.

But that shitposting only works before the airing after the first episode people are busy with talking about the show.

Also see how that one troll Kizu threads are wastelands now because no one cares anymore.

>>147380982
nice semen demons

>>147380982
>hair is moving while he's in bed

What a fucking shitshow this is going to be

>>147381091
>usual cg
when did they use cg

>>147383396
kill yourself baiter

>>147380982
Shaft ruined it as expected.

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looking forward too it

>>147381921
Honey and Clover was adapted by good studio and great director. Sangatsu isnt.

>>147381655
Zaregoto's designs are pretty faithful if you actually compare them, save for Aikawa and Shinya

>>147383361
nice, don't watch it then

>>147382967
>But that shitposting only works before the airing
True. After first few episodes Shaft defenders quietly disappear as if anything before didnt happen, when it becomes irrefutebly clear shaft failed.

>>147383674
Also, Honey and Clever is overall better than Sangatsu.

>>147383808
you must be getting confused with kyoani threads

>>147383698
>Zaregoto's designs are pretty faithful

HAHAHA

Why are kyoani and shaft getting this much hate. This is just sad. /a/ isnt a fun place to talk about anime anymore. Reddit is shit, mal is shit, /a/ was the last hope.

>>147383396
When didn't they use CG?
>>147383857
>KyoAni adapts Keion a small manga
>every thread from there after is a thread about the work of KyoAni not of the mangaka
>Shaft adapts Nisekoi a big tank pusher
>Every Nisekoi thread after the anime ended pretends that the anime didn't even happen
You're the one easily confused.

>>147383914
It's the only two studios they know, they also don't really like anime so they come to shitpost

>>147383914
/a/ was overrun by edgelord because the 09-13 /a/ generation thought that being edgy would turn off newcomers but the reality is that it just attracted those edgelords by the buckets.

>>147383985
>k-on
sol

>nisekoi
romcom harem

hmm really makes you think

I want to marry Shimada 8-dan!

>>147383698
What the hell are you talking about?

Good thing it was shaft that doing it.

I could just rewatch Musaigen and I wouldn't beable to tell the difference if it were Kyoani that did it

The OP sounds really good, as expected of BoC

>megane MC

into the trash it goes

>>147384606
He's smarter than you will ever be

>>147383139
Series barely has any fanart now but hopefully nips will step up the doujins once it starts to air.

>>147383829
Japan like Sangatsu more overall.

>>147385054
Good because H&C was a shit.

>>147383985
How many of the Keion fans have actually read or give a shit about the manga? Nisekoi manga was hugely popular even before the anime, and until a month ago there was a constant stream of new chapters to discuss.

The hype for this seems pretty dead.
Not that I mind because I'm a mangafag and the threads don't need to be overrun with shitposting

>>147386932
hype is there. many shaftfags left /a/ due to the shitposting with kizu.

>>147386932
Yuri on Ice takes the main spotlight this season. 3gatsu comes 3rd after hibike, or even 4ths after Fune wo Amu

>>147387348
I thought everyone was mad at Hibike because of hetroshipping next season.

>>147387469
/u/ getting btfo both in Hibike and Yuri on Ice is big bonus. Not that they`ll leave Hibike threads for good though.

>3Gatsu thread has devolved into studiowar thread
>Gone are the day of chill and comfy thread like when scanlator catching up its release on rush.
Thanks SHAFT.

Bad season for shaft it seems. With both Kizu p2 and 3gatsu flopping.

Looks great.

>>147387881
Koufuku threads were great.

>>147381626
NHK is the least mainstream channel nowadays. Their ratings are awful and are only afloat because they're a public network and tax payers pay for everything.

The PC was long overdu, that's a bad sign.. The production must be hell right now

>>147388430
People shit on KyoAni for depth of field but apparently dont mind Shaft picture looking like unsharp washed out rag

>>147381278
Looks pretty faithful to me. How autistic are you?

>>147388430
>hair is just a solid mass of black with no line work

How lazy can you get

>>147381626
>airing on a Mainstream channel
this is a con you know, almost every NHK show flops

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>>147383914
replace the Titanic with Nichijou and you get the state of /a/

>>147389141
Both in anime sales and in ratings.

>>147388827
>can't even watch the PV

>>147383914
Studio war threads are like Trump. They started out as memey jokes, then people started taking them seriously.

>>147387881
Anime adaptation is definitely the worst thing to happen to comfy manga threads.

>>147389141
Sangatsu no lion is selling 650 000 copies per volumes. Almost 650 000 people are looking forward to this.

>>147389334
>Trump
>meme
Cuck

>>147388992
Fuck off.

>>147389393
And Nisekoi had even more than that before Shaft "Franchise killer" studio got their hands on it and subsequently killed it.

>>147389393
manga sales =/= anime sales or else BokuHero would be a 30k seller

>>147389556
Not him but Nisekoi isn't selling 650k per volume. It's around 250k per volume.

I`ll post constructive criticism.

Plus:
-facial animation in some scenes

Minus:
-unnatural human coloring and overall color pallete
-"flat" character design and shading
-cheap one tone hair, no texture and depth
-3D backgrounds with cheap paint filter (specially seen in his room). fucking items on floor and walls are litterally falt textures applied to surfaces, not even the paste on picture later - boxes, shirt etc textures and with perspective issues.
-Body lightning/tones never matches scene lightning. I.e. remains bright in darker scenes, does not match day time.
-overall cheap and bad backgrounds, badly post processed
-pointless Shinbo "dark shadow" scene
-typical retarded shinbo "direct" perspective of the club room. Its his signature, sure - but 90 grad angles look retarded in anime and cinema, and it doesnt fit manga.
-overall gray and dimmed boring color pallete
-lack of any texture on clothings, all but females in select scenes wear simple shaded clothes outlines.
-flat top down view on the shogi board. Once again, its shinbo`s touch - but retarded here, since looks bad.
-choppy unfinished animation, like the books falling scene that looks like mix of disjointed frames put together.
-overall prevalence of 45 and 90 grad angles in everything - every scene design, 2.5d pespective.

>>147389556
Since when was Nisekoi a flop? (It should've been though; maybe then they would've made a Madoka continuation instead of letting it slip past the 3-year "oldshit" threshold.)

>>147389728
that's a still a fucking lot

>>147389805
-bad textures. Once again, if you draw cubic objects or textured outlines, least makes sure that texture is not cheap stock shit. If cant be bothered to draw fancy object (0:28), least get a proper wood texture.
-complete disregard of character lightnign and shadows (specially noticable when many background characters in scene). Mostly because, all characters dont even have that level of detail - they are just outlines with color applied via Paintbrush "Fill"
-big mismatch of bad "steril/realistic "interior designs and stylized "painting(also rather)" outside ones.
-"quality" outlines. Though that is a shaft trait they can never get rid of.
-washed out and unsharp picture

Overall, looks cheap as fuck. Will not even compare it with Honey and Clover, rather would give example of Eccentric Family of how the show looks when people care about it - which Shaft obviously doenst.

>>147389805
who care...

>>147389556
Nisekoi was selling 80-90k before the anime the anime gave it a boost. Its peak was around 250k per volume. Shaft or not studios tend to give a boost to manga because that what manga is. An ad for the source. Stop shitposting a quick look at older vols can show you that. The disc sales were good for it as well. Season 1 sold above 5k while season 2 sold below that. The we have the merch that is being made constantly so it has to be selling.

You can really understand the industry a lot more when you stop being autistic and hate 1 studio and love another.

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Fucking Durarara x No budget had better Shogi look than this

What is the appeal of this series? From the trailer, it looks a bit slow.

>>147389849
>a style choice I don't like
Another case of something not being the same = bad.

>>147389805
I always thought PV were a bad way to judge an anime, I mean its just random cuts of the show with first episode budget. Wait till the 3rd or something when the production starts to unravel (or not)

>>147390077
That looks awfully like nichijou

>>147390048
something something comfy SOL show starting highschool kids

The raging shitpost parade for Shaft and KyoAni have been awful this year.

>>147390251
Shut the fuck up and go back to your rezero threads

>>147382023
Compared to your average /a/ poster their average level of knowledge is years in advance.

>>147390301
there was a huge string of /v/ tier shows (OPM, Re:Zero) but no "big" Kyoani or Shaft show all year (even Kizu was pretty lukewarm for some reason), and now we have both in the same season, it's the perfect storm for shitposting.

ITT: if it would have been 100% rotoscoped like Aku no Hana, it still would look better

Why is 1 shitposters posting shogi gifs from tumblr. I swear newfags are the worst.

>>147390298
This and Durarara look best so far. Shaft the worst. Its like they dont give a fuck at all - "plebs would eat it anyway"

Looks like a fairly high production value for SHAFT but that is just a PV rest of it might be a slideshow full of quality.

KyoAni beat Kizu p2 with knk.

Will they also beat Sangatsu with Hibike s2?

>>147380982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN4a0kZuXg

How can anyone seriously still imply 3gatsu looks good?

>>147390773
Yes, but why does it matter? They both lose to Yuri on Ice

>>147390773
Only if /u/ get so mad they start eating each other.

>>147390773
>>147390949
Why does this matter?

>>147390898
that looks awful

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>>147390898
>dub

>>147390949
>MAPPA show selling

>>147390898
I have to squint because of the shitty coloring.

>>147390898
Those early 00s anime sure looked terrible.

>>147390949
>YAMAMOTO show selling
>Mappa show selling
>ever
LUL
U
L

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This is how you do watercolor in anime. Shitbo really needs some classes from Yamada-senpai.

>>147391673
cant tell if trolling

>>147391673
Please, both directors are great can we not do this. It hurts both studio discussion in the long run. I dont want kyofags to shit on Sangatsu and I dont want shaftfags to shit on Hibike.

>>147391673
Is this the ol' 2 in 1 bait?

>>147380982
>Shaft
no. I dont like their epilepsy inducing shit.
If I want to watch pretentious shit, I watch Indie Game Dev: The Movie.

>>147391673
Will there be yuribait between the two cakes?

>>147391742
>Shinbo
>great
since when? His only achievement is perfecting being poorfag.

>>147392043
SoulTaker, Cossette, YYH episodes are his best works. You don't have to be a blind hater. He is a great director. We just havent seen much from him apart from Shinbo directing the entire studio at Shaft.

>>147392191
The only his work i respect is Moonphase. SoulTake was mess, despite being his only show done by decent studios. But he didnt develop positively since then at all.

As far adaptations from him go, we all remember how "great" he is from Negima anime

>>147392511
Negima was great for me because the style and humor made it enjoyable. I never read the manga so I can't share the same frustration as sourcefags.

If the rumors are true we might be able to see his evolution with this series. The storyboard in the PV already have more Shinbo flare.

Im surprised you think Moonphase was the better of the earlier shaft works. Paniponi and Negima are better for me.

>>147381091

It looks passable and like what you'd expect from a daytime NHK series. You can tell NHK is really taking charge of this project though and not allowing Shaft and Aniplex to engage in the usual Monogatari animation style shenanigans. Also Bump of Chicken on music who are decidedly not Sony Music affiliated points to NHK getting in on music as well so I expect that element to be above average for a Shaft show too.

>>147382967

It's kind of funny to see /a/ go from constant Monogatari wank threads to barely caring about the franchise anymore in the last few iterations. It's like SHAFT only comes up in relation to ironic shitposting studio wars with Kyoani anymore and I'm mostly okay with that. They were massively overexposed for a while post Madoka Magica for what they've actually been contributing to the industry and barely seem to give a shit about anything anymore.

Looks good to me
Made better with Bump of Chicken
I'm hyped

>>147392727
Either way the point of his criticizm in this case is not that he`s bad director - but that he forces his style too much where it is not needed.

3gatsu is a popular manga, from author whose works already were adapted before successfully. People expect a good adaptation. Instead they god "shinbo".

I`ll give example of previous Nisekoi adaptation, which while successful - was not what people wished to see. They wanted a proper by the book visual stayle and direction of the genre - like say JC Staff does not successfully with Shokugeki no Soma, since they understand how its done: instead got Monogatari light visual and direction wise.

Sometimes Shaft style and direction fits the shows well - Arakawa, Monogatari (also i feel its bad as adaptation of Nisio LNs, but ok show), Koufuku Graffiti, Hidamari, SZS , Sasami (also shaft ver is inferior than Kyouran Kazoku Nikki) etc.

Other side SHAFT is a weight bringing the show down and it could have been done better by anyone else: Dance in the Vampire Bund, Negima, Natsu no Arashi, Nisekoi and this.

>>147393236
It must be fun being an ignorant retard with shit tastes. Enjoying even the lowest of the low common denominator anime.

>>147393288

The author herself choose Shinbo or no animation at all not to mention that she didn't like H&C anime it seemed.

>>147393377
Yeah, I hope that works out for you.

>>147383914

Pretty much everywhere is utter crap to talk about anime now unfortunately including even the Something Awful forums where people used to have taste but now are no different from MAL, Crunchyroll, /a/ etc. I mean aside from the last couple years being overall overhyped dogshit for TV anime people could be talking about some of the solid movie and OVA stuff that has come out in spite of that issue but all anybody seems to care about is the hype or hate factor anymore and telling you all about how x show makes them feel one of those two extreme emotions and then those two camps just go at it for weeks on end. That's 99.9% of anime "discussion" now, just that braindead sort of shitposting.

Nothing seems to seriously matter to anybody anymore nor do they actually seem to value anything to do with anime and they'd sooner just try to trollbait other users whenever they think the slightest opportunity presents itself, have the same shitposting threads or be weird, creepy and stupid about bishoujou characters all day than actually discuss things to do with anime. Also being "normal" is bad and liking anything even remotely popular at large means you have "shit taste" and need to "kill yourself".

Anime fandom is completely on auto-pilot with it's commentary and feedback and just entirely vapid so it's no wonder we just keep getting more of the same bland shit with the same tired staff/cast and concepts and the conversations people have barely make any sort of sense or serve any sort of purpose anymore.

>>147384059

This. The people that actually do give a shit just get drowned out by them and told that they're the shitposters and the great satan from reddit or tumblr and just get tired of it all and stop posting about anime on the internet. I'm not sure how or why I've stayed patient, maybe it's for these occasional sober reflections I manage to see every once in a while that remind me of how things used to be.

>>147393583
Sounds like a stuck up bitch. Watch she'll end up hating the 3gatsu anime too.

>>147393288
I feel like people think Shaft only has 1 style. Maybe because I've watched almost all their works but I do see a distinct style from them.

In my opinion they aren't doing anything different with how they animate compared to Ghbili, Kyoani, and JC staff. Those 3 studios have a distinct style that can always be noticeable. With Shaft they just borrow gimics from their previous works. Which isn't a bad thing. The only time I really felt that shaft is being overbearing is with MCA with its overly Shaft visuals. But Nisekoi and Koufuku were fairly tame. That has more to do with both being by the same director.

I personally dont see the copy and paste monogatari template that everyone sees. To me their works just build upon previous works.

>>147393583
Yeah, the "author". Just like Hate "loves" Manglobe seasons of Hayate. She tells whatever producers tell her to promote it.

>>147384071

Is that where this whole "kill yourself" thing comes from. I've lost track of how many times some moron has told me to kill myself in response to a perfectly reasonable and non-threatening comment I've left but it must be at least 10 times a week bare minimum

>>147393718
You're awfully cynical.

>>147393718
Is it hard for authors to have a god damn opinion? You are just making up shit in order to justify your taste. Many artists said that they hated X series and loved Y series from their own works. It isnt brand new or a marketing scheme. Besides long before this announcement she showed interest in Shaft and was a fan of them.

The industry isnt a bunch of trollshitter kids on /a/

>>147393726
Kill yourself.

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>>147393718

I love when trolls pulling bullshit.

>I`ll give example of previous Nisekoi adaptation, which while successful - was not what people wished to see.

Only that the show got 2 seasons and a bunch of OVAs.
And sold quite well and doubled the manga sales.

>>147393670
>>147393718

I'm hating the discussions already. Fucking faggots trying to push all this hatred and they haven't even read the manga. Hopefully this type of shitposting would die down later on so that we can get better discussions.

>>147393852
He's just telling it how it is. She has no reason to shittalk Shaft despite knowing that they will fuck up her manga.

>>147394019
You're so sensitive.

>>147387881

It was doomed thread wise the moment it was announced to be Shaft/Aniplex adapting it. I honestly legitimately feel sorry for the sources fans and all the braindead idiots they are going to have to deal with that are going to be watching and shitposting what should be a family friendly show to death just because it's Shaft and the vs. Kyoani studio wars BS that otherwise wouldn't even be a thing but now are a must now due to shitposting rituals.

I still have this feeling too that despite NHK apparently being the one in charge of this project that Shaft and Aniplex will find some way to make it weird and uncomfortable for source fan and mainstream public viewers by working some of their patented edge, "style" and teen melodrama into the mix at some point. Like the people that are just Shaft fanboys that worship them cause of Monogatari and Madoka style edge just aren't going to mix well with the Sangatsu source fans at all. NHK better exercise absolute control and oversight on this project constantly is all I can say and make Shaft/Aniplex show them all their work and ideas before giving the okay on it.

>>147394045

Read the chain. I was talking about Honey and Clover not Sangatsu.

>>147394019
We can if we ignore them

>>147394017
>2 seasons
And durarara got even more despite every season flopping. But whatever SHAFT killed both Nisekoi and Kagerou Project. Can't wait for them to kill Sangatsu and Zaregatogatari.

Pro-animefags need to fuck off. As long as they deliver the scene with the right atmosphere, the show doesn't need to be high quality budget.

>>147394115
>It was doomed thread wise the moment it was announced to be Shaft/Aniplex adapting it
Mostly because of you though. You're a blight on the world.

>>147394115
Why do you keep assuming. I've been a fan of Shaft since the early 2000s. Before Nisio's books were even written.

Just stop. Some of Shaft fans come from the very early shaft period when their series were heavy with otaku infleunce.

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It looks pretty good.

>>147393288
>JC Staff

oh Poland... still shitposting in Shaf threads?

>>147394227
Stick to the fucking manga if you don't want quality animation then, retard.

There's no point of anime if the animation boils down to pans and mouth flapping.

>>147394227
Good that 3lion looks fantastic. So there is no problem in that regard.

>>147394216
>killed Nisekoi
Gave it a boost that doubled its sales and merch being sold still
>killed MCA
Even though its getting another season by who knows who and a movie
>killed sangatsu
Its on nhk it will get sequels regardless thanks to tax payers
>killed zaregoto
Look at the stalkers it selling well stop shitposting

>>147394343
It doesn't. Looks like your average low budget seasonal trash that was made to promote the source material.

>>147394343
I'm pretty hyped for it.

>>147394406
This one is made in order to deliver the story to TV.

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people are only shitting on this because Kyoani is airing an unrelated show in the same season

prove me wrong

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>>147393691
"shaft" style is not unique anymore and "spread" (with staff leak mostly) and you can see genuiene "shaft" say in Silverlink, Deen and occasionally elsewhere now.

Shinbo for example, thankfully moved away from playing with colors and silluetes like retard, but went too much into "paper theatre" approach.

For example if KyoAni tries to make their anime as cinematic as possible - up to depth of field, camera shake etc. Ikuhara is theatre fag that sees anime as a play and everything as decorations, litterally - composing shows like musicles.

Shinbo on other hand does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamishibai , (litterally slideshow heh). Evident in his scenes composed like viewer watching a theatre scene at 90grad, lack of depth in scenes (background is decoragion, theres is only one horizontal line on which "actors" stand too). Secondary use of "texture" - litterally from paper cutouts, to flat or unmoving. Pic related for example is not Oshi`s touch, but Shinbos - which he uses over and over since Moonphase and earlier. Also "pasted" objects and decorations - be it paper, cg, photo.

Not to mention many direction touches, use of colors (solid colored scene composition and silluetes are Shinbo stuff, meanwhile patterned collored backgrounds in Shaft shows on other hand are Oonumas`s (who meanwhile left, and imho better than Shinbo - EF visual style for once trumps anything Shibno done).

Yes, Shaft shows are "different" from each other, but there is tendency and similar touches to a degree in all of them and they are easily identifiable. Biggest problem is at this point Shaft is simply incapable of making "normal" show.

For example Trigger, abandoned its style and did Inou Battle "by the book". Shaft just cant.

>>147394512
No it isn't.

>>147394555
IT IS.

>>147394362
>Kagerou project down almost to half total sales after the Shaft catastrophe
>Nisekoi literally scrapped two years before the original ending was planned
>Sangatsu's author already distancing from the adaptation even before it aired.
>Not knowing about 2ch troll preorders for Zaregatogatari
Stop shitposting.

>>147394019
>and they haven't even read the manga.
Maybe its you who didnt?

The core point is : Honey and clover adaptation was on point (visually at least). 3gatsu isnt and Shinbo`s direction and visual style kills appeal of manga and doesnt represet Umino`s talent

>>147394115
>Shaft and the vs. Kyoani
Its Shaft vs 3gatsu

>>147394554
First, I'd like to say I'm glad there is someone here who isnt a blind shaft hater and knows his stuff.

But for the most part I agree with you. But can we really say Inou was "by the books" it was still very trigger like in the visual department. To me it was Trigger but without the Imashi template. Even LWA is somewhat more tame trigger.

Regarding Shaft. Do you really want them to make a normal show? I gravitate to them because they don't. With over 30 seaonal anime and maybe 20 watchable for otaku series, I dont need everything to play by the books.

But if we are going by the books I think Sangatsu no Lion is going to be the one to do so. As many noted NHK is calling the shots rather than Aniplex which gives us a good sign.

Fate/Shaft will hopefully show us if Shaft will continue to regress back to aniplex or move on. Zaregoto is just purely marketing so I cant fault it. I wasnt even expecting an adaption so im happy its getting one even if it looks like Gatari.

>>147394717
>Nisekoi literally scrapped two years before the original ending was planned
For the best, I don't think Komi couod just keep dancing around retardation, he literally had nowhere else to go beyond finishing.

>>147394720
And the worst thing is that she can't even say anything bad about the adaptation because if she did the whole Anime Japan Consortium would boycott her. Such a shame that Shaft relies on such underhanded tactics.

>>147394720
>Shinbo`s direction and visual style kills appeal of manga and doesnt represet Umino`s talent
How can you make that judgement when not even the first episode is out?

>>147394908
The PV is more than enough to judge this flop.

>>147394717
>Nisekoi literally scrapped two years before the original ending was planned

So you're saying the otters should be thankful of them?

>>147392965
>a daytime NHK series
This is airing at 11 p.m. though.

>>147394908
A troll doesn't care about such mere details!

>>147394717
>Kagerou project down almost to half total sales after the Shaft catastrophe
Still selling great stop shitposting.
>Nisekoi literally scrapped two years before the original ending was planned
You think Komi could go on. This is a harem that failed because it relied too much on whats inside the locket. It was bound to end anyways and 2 years is too long it should have ended 100 chapters ago.
>Sangatsu's author already distancing from the adaptation even before it aired.
She was tweeting about it early this week. This is the same shitpost they try to pull with kyoani with KnK
>Not knowing about 2ch troll preorders for Zaregatogatari
Just let me know now. Do we want me to screenshot this when it sells over 5k first week?

>>147394908
We had this discussion before Nisekoi too. PV shows that it visually looks subpar to simiarl productions of other studios, and typical shaft direction, composition, coloring and other production touches - which are incompatible with mood and art of the manga.

>>147394907
Wow, the conspiracyfags are out in force.

They literally can't stop talking about shaft.

>>147395488
Shaft has been caught shilling their shit on 2ch so it's not so far fetched.

>>147395488
Kyoani is already a dead horse at this point so they moved here

>>147394554
>For example Trigger, abandoned its style and did Inou Battle "by the book". Shaft just cant.
Trigger doesn't really have a style as a studio, not in the same way Shaft does, why even compare them?

>>147395627
Imaishi stuff never stopped looking like Imaishi.

>>147395568
what does this mean? no srsly im aware of this

>>147395627
SHAFT's style is very in your face and straightforward. With Trigger you usually can tell it's one of their shows by how they keyframe their animation or their character designs.

>>147394019

See >>147394115

It's not entirely Shaft itself but the toxic and opportunistic community of shitposters and shills that follow them from project to project and the inevitability of how that is going to drown out anything to do with Sangatsu no Lion. Not only that but they're going to be predictably going at it with Hibike Euphonium fans or at least samefagging shitflinging wars at each other cause everything must always revolve around that false dichotomy.

Seriously no point in visiting /a/ for Fall as guaranteed it's just going to be wall to wall threads of Kyoani vs. Shaft and 3Gatsu vs Hibike S2 shitposting that mods will sooner sticky than try to stamp out. It's not going to be all that much better anywhere else either.

>>147395767
I love how we are all preparing for the worst this fall.

>>147394169

They have a way of brute forcing their way into the conversation and slowly steering it towards the same old shitposting wars. The second a memeable cut from either 3Gatsu or Hibike presents itself expect the ever loving shit to be spammed out of it and the standard loudmouth bait comments about how the other side is getting BTFO.

>>147395767
neogaf

>>147395849
Ah do studios do this often? Did it hurt their rep? I dont think 2ch cares much about studios like we do.

>>147394169
There are 200 posts but only 45 IPs.

We are at the point when trolls don't just trying to bait but just doing entire strings of posts on their own.

That samefagging by that one Polish troll with the same grammar fuck ups is so fucking obvious.

>>147395728
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2012/01/18/digital/stealth-marketing-by-companies-is-polluting-online-forums/#.V5j6pvkrI2w

>On Jan. 1, a comment was made on 2-channel regarding a link on the website of an anime company called Shaft. Within the link — to a Shaft product on Amazon.jp — was embedded a Amazon Affiliates ID tag belonging to a 2-channel summary site called Yaraon. This convinced some people that Shaft and Yaraon — and maybe more companies and summary sites — are secretly working together to promote certain products on 2-channel to make a profit

>>147396136
So basically what every american company does

>>147394717

The first two are true only it's more than a 100% decrease for Kagerou Daze, the third one I'm pretty sure is complete bullshit and according to preorders Zaregoto is doing okay at least for the first volume with stalker prediction of about 8,000 BD and 1,500 DVD. It should also be mentioned that each volume is dirt fucking cheap but also only comes with one episode, but even then with the Amazon discount it costs about 3,000 yen on the dot for both BD and DVD versions. Why they have the same price I honestly don't know.

>>147395095

>Still selling great stop shitposting.

Actually no it's not to be honest. You'd expect it's sales to go up after the anime or at very least stay the same, not drop like 200% then 400% from the last volume to be released before the anime. That's really really REALLY fucking horrible as a result.

>>147396136

It amazes me how few people know about this. I'm almost certain it happens here as well.

>>147396452
Look at what Rezero will do in 2 years.

>>147395723
Yeah, Imaishi's anime looks like Imaishi. Yoshinari's anime looks like Yoshinari. Amemiya's anime looks like Aqua Teen Hunger Force. That's my point. Their works are specifically them, not any house style they follow. That they would produce a "by-the-books" adaptation when directed by someone less idiosyncratic isn't exactly noteworthy.

>>147395761
>With Trigger you usually can tell it's one of their shows by how they keyframe their animation or their character designs.
Yeah, they will usually have cartoonier than average animation (which also applies to InouBattle anyway, so kind of a moot point), but that's not the same as having someone like Shinbo ensuring every show fits the same stylistic scheme.

>>147395937

Other way around, they actually talk about more than just Shaft and Kyoani shitflinging wars because they actually somewhat have a clue what's going on around them in the anime scene unlike Western anime fans that get all their opinions and information force fed to them by the likes of Crunchyroll and hype marketing campaigns or through shitposting nonsense on /a/.

It's truly amazing to me just how modern anime fans come across like these braindead zombies that can only shitpost or tell people how x makes them hype and ready to throw their money at y. They're unfortunately some of the most boring people on the planet with the least interesting or original things to say really and think resorting towards inflammatory shitposting or parroting other louder idiots opinions somehow makes their comments any more insightful or valuable.

>>147395969

Eh it's no surprise that the number of actual unique anime fans is dropping of late. People just get tired of the shitposting and there really hasn't been any sort of series that has truly engrossed people in years. It's all just fake extreme opinions over shit we all know to be mediocre and forgettable, but that dedicated shitposters still take the time to do their rituals around. If somebody wants to make a show that is truly interesting and people actually want to pay attention to and talk about seriously I'm sure things would improve at least a little. Until then it's just going to be the same group of 50 or so shitposters and the odd person that strays into the anime scene but has nothing to contribute because they're dumb and boring.

>>147396600

Well Re:Zero was actually well received so I expect it's number to go up and stay up for about that amount of time. It'll need a sequel series at some point possibly in 2018 to stave off the drop a bit though.

>>147394717
>Sangatsu's author already distancing from the adaptation even before it aired.
She was the one that wanted SHAFT to adapt it actually.

>>147397106
(((((She wanted SHAFT to adapt it))))))

>>147397455
I dont get shitposters. You give them proof and they deny it. You give them a conspiracy and they run with it.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4toq9y_sangatsu-no-lion-clip_tv

more footage

>>147397545
Ugly as shit, and what's with the finger nails what the hell

>>147397738
People have finger nails, dear troll.

46 IPs. So many samefags trying to hold on to relevancy.

>>147397831
It looks weird that they decided to add somewhat defined fingernails to such simple designs. Doesn't look right.

Eh. I'm just happy it's not A-1. And the OP and ED are guaranteed decent at least since it's Bump Of Chicken. Also, I hope they use this song at some point. I like it a lot. Not as the OP/ED though. I'd like some new shit for those

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCWbfjf8Tw

>>147394115
>teen melodrama into the mix at some point

Dude, this series if filled with that though, well not really, more "Youth Melancholy" if anything, but there are points where the melodrama goes up crazy. Especially with the bits with the blonde sister and the field trip arc.

>>147397942
Honestly if it wasn't NHK this would have probably gone to A1.

Man I just want to enjoy the anime and have some nice discussion. Why does anything that has Shaft get these studio wars?

>>147397942
I'm legit surprised Rei went for Akari. I thought him and his sister kinda had a thing.

Like, a fucked up thing, but a thing nonetheless.

>>147398161
>Thinking it's exclusive to shaft.

Nigga, Studio wars is /a/'s console wars. No one is safe.

>>147398161
Don't worry no one will care when it actually airs. The only studio that gets constant shitposting even while their shows are airing is KyoAni.

>>147398112
It would have gone to no one because Umino didn't want this to be adapted by anyone other than Shinbo.

>>147397545
So for this is the only pv with Harunobu talking

>>147398268
Big mistake from Umino

>>147398372
During the special they had each seiyuu go around town and shit. He had his part. But so did hanakana and the others. Was good.

>>147398215

Console wars at /v/ is pretty tame compared to the one at /a/. At least there it's easier to ignore. Here the autism level is through the roof. Can't even have a decent discussion without them butting in and ruining the thread.

>>147398533
There was a special? Is it available in nyaa?

>>147398373
Nah it shows she has impeccable taste.

>>147381626
>NHK
>Mainstream

>>147398663
I have no idea I just watched it on NHK G stream. Luckily Sangatsu twitter reminded me.

>>147398663
its available on youtube too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiCWbfjf8Tw

>>147398809
Mainstream in a sense where, late night series would only reach a couple 100k while NHK will probably reach a million or more.

Sangatsu no Lion will probably be watched by more people than bakemonogataris BD sales.

>>147399020

Oh nice gonna watch it later. Thanks

>>147392511
He didn't direct Moonphase or Negima though

>>147398215
It's a 5 minute MV dude.

>>147399075
This is Primetime, right. Forgot about that.

>>147387756
I wish they would.

>>147389394
>voting for the orange jew

yes, yes, good goy

>>147395860
the anime community in neogaf is pretty comfy. shame that the rest of the board is full of SJW shit

>>147397942
That song is confirmed for the ED.

>>147399135
TFW you realize Oonuma Shin was the chief director and Shinbo was the director of Negima.

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>>147399177
>>147399075
11pm is not prime time, specially not for NHK

>>147399710
1.5, is still more than what most late night slots get.

We just have to wait and see with this ANN TV ratings.

>>147399800
Not more than most anime shows that get that slot anywhere else, no.

>>147399710
Wouldn't be surprised if NHK is trying to bolster up numbers by putting 3-gatsu there.

>>147399952
Shaftshitters went from 'it's going to air in the mighty NHK station' to 'it's going to air in NHK prime time' to 'it's going to bolster that dead slot for NHK'

>>147400055
shaftshitters are cancer. don't argue with their kind

>>147400055
It isn't a dead slot and its on Saturday not the weekdays.

A dead slot would be 10 to 12 or 14 to 17. The massive spikes are from news channels.

>>147399710
Oh. It's not prime time then. Welp. Hope it does the author good. I like her stuff.

>>147399466
Ah, dammit.

>>147380982

Literally the only thing worth watching this Fall

>>147400618
Wrong thread? Let me help you >>147336915

>>147399710
Kyoukai no Rinne airs at 17:30 and pulls 3.0.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-08/japan-animation-tv-ranking-august-29-september-4/.106258

You can go back and see it chart many times as well. Im not discrediting that chart but its not the say all be all.

>>147400055
Kill yourself, studio war faggot

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>>147400651

>fake yuri forced drama horn sluts

Kyoani kids are funny

>>147381626
Honey and Clover had Suneohair.

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>>147390898
>dub

>>147398373
Well, it's her decision, conspiracyfags aside.

Next they'll be claiming that the Antichristplex bribed theaters not to carry Silent Voice.

>>147398695
if she had taste she would've gave it to PA Works